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Every bitcoin holder needs to help make the price go up on January 30th!
Buy at least some amount of bitcoin this day and hold for 24 hours minimum.
Spread the word! Let's do this every month and win!

As much as we wanted to do that and follow your advise and kick some bear, it's not simple as it sounds. This is a free market so I doubt that anyone will follow your advise though. Yes it's frustrating to see the market conditions right now, but we can't do anything like forcing or telling someone to have a a schedule buy-in.

Chances are people might sell on the 30th for all we know. I can also advise if someone is not really comfortable wit the market to really stay out and wait till everything settles down.

And even if your proposition might happen, we can't discount the fact the speculators or bots will take advantage of the situation to push the sell button and book their profits upon seeing a spike in the price.

many people have tried pump and dump groups.. the result turns out like this

privately whales pre-buy on the 28th
privately sharks pre-buy on the 29th
publicly the minnows (small fish) are told to buy on the 30th
...
whales sell on the 30th when minnows buy. whales profit
sharks might profit-lose when they realise what happened on the 30th/31st..average they break even
minnows lose on the 31st

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28 29 30 31
end result temporary price drama. nothing sustainable

i wonder why the OP is choosing January 30th. and im guessing its probably because the OP gets paid on like the 28th and wants to buy in BEFORE the date he chose

By definition if this became consistent the pre-buying would happen further out and the day-of dump would get more and more severe.

Folks would want to go long and short at those times, then others would want to use those people as liquidity pools.

Messy, and over after the 2nd / 3rd month lol

I wonder how many people will decide to follow this rule of yours ,its not as easily as you think,we all know that bitcoin is not a pump and dump coin and not everyone is even buying bitcoin in this dip market,many still prefer buying altcoins

People are now  scared to risk a money  again mate, because of being still had a funds with it which is too hard to dump due to the circumstances and huge loss,   in my view people will continue to obtaining quick profits for sure even though it's riskier than hodling for long run. 'cuase market nowadays is very not reliable and trustworthy for them due to some factors.

it is going to happen soon enough without us encouraging people to buy or not. besides nobody would ever listen until it is too late, that is why all the initial rises (or even initial falls) are a sharp one. because people see the rise, become sure of it then start FOMO buying in so price shoots up.
that would be the case here too. we will be stuck in this state for a long time, and unless some massive attack starts (like the bcash one that crashed into $6k) i don't see any lower prices, and then someday you'd wake up to see a big FOMO ongoing.

This sounded like a pump and dump scheme to me but done in a more professional manner  :D

This is not a game or some kind of a revenge against the bears.

So what is the reason we will follow what you are saying? People are scared to invest right now into Bitcoin and I agree with the last post that this is an obvious pump and dump scheme in a more professional manner  ;D ;D .

Plan failed!!! Useless

Bitcoin is not a pump and dump schemes, in as much as everyone is interested in profiting from the market, engaging in such is detrimental to the network.


For one to win, another has to loss. In pump amd dump groups is mostly the underlings who lose out cause they are buying on the way up, and not at the bottom.

I guess it is a variation on your theory. He wants to cash out on the 30th of January and he wants to cash out on the highest price possible. Possibly one of the people who bought bitcoins with credit cards or some kind of debt and the first payment is coming up in February.  ;D

As you said #franky1, these types of strategies never work out, because there is always people who mess things up by buying when other people are not buying or the other way around.  ::)

I think at the moment it is very difficult to make the price of Bitcoin rise sharply, it needs good news that is really convincing large Investors to buy large amounts of Bitcoin, so prices will rise sharply, and if it is like that many people will panic buy.

The OP is suggesting that we should collectively buy bitcoin and according to his 'theory' the end result will pump bitcoin come January 30th personal I buy at dip and sell whenever the price pumps and does it repeatedly whereas little 'whales' won't make any impact on the price to pump.

believe me its not that easy ! you cant make thousands of people buy bitcoin and hold it just to win some ! you know its tottally random.

January 30th is when Zilliqa bears will start hiding.
But when it comes to BTC, even 10,000 people on this forum wouldn't be as influential as one big whale. This is how wealth distribution works.

This is one good idea but i doubt people will take this into consideration since investing in crypto is not a joke and this lies our precious hard earned money.

If you really wanted this to happen,then start buying now and continue to focus on that,we might know more will follow your footsteps..

I am not doing anything now but just continue holding

People will buy Bitcoin without anyone saying it, and I doubt that anyone here will follow what you have said, investors are now more knowledgeable about cryptocurrency market and they don't just buy just because some random people said that we should do this and that, crypto investors will enter if they feel it is a good time to buy. And what you want to do here makes no difference on what pump and dump groups do but unfortunately it will be always a win just for whales, so don't expect people here will listen.

After the bear market kills many investors I am not sure they will believe what we are promoting. This is not as easy as you expect, every person (investor) has a way to believe what others say. In addition, when they fail after being hit by a bear market for a full year, they will get used to seeking information before deciding to buy bitcoin or even sell it. I hope everyone doesn't bother to tempt other people to buy bitcoin, let them buy bitcoin with their own desires so when they experience a loss they won't blame others.

Indeed it seems that the way you suggest is quite reasonable, but there are still too many people who have different goals and selling targets. Especially for those who bought bitcoin at a low price last year.

i like this iniziative, but i think we have no power to influnce the market. Volume are too high and we need to buy a lot of btc to make the price higher :(

It's so naive to say that the bull win comes in January 30th unless you are the one of the whales or shark. We don't know about that, we only a little fish in the big whales who are competing to make bigger and bigger profit. Maybe I would say, don't kick the bear, let the bear wake up by itself and that bear will hungry and try to eat something and it's mean, we are going to see the bull will comes lol :D

i dont know what its mean but if there are many people that will believe in bitcoin and cryptocurrency they will buy and hold bitcoin right now, why? because we can see that the price of bitcoin is in the low right now, and today is the good price to buy bitcoin

of course if we buy bitcoin and other crypto from now on it's great because the price is still low and if you want to get a big profit it's easy too while you are patient waiting for the right price to make a sale

The holders can't help the price of bitcoin goes up simply because they just hold it and even they not sell it in a market. I already have bitcoin in my wallet I hold it for a couple of months. Do you think by just spreading the word of bitcoin the price will really go up?

Mate just stop spreading rumours, look at the market situation now and speak about it currently the price of market has crashed so badly. Yes I agree it's better to buy coins in cheap prices and go through according to market strategy.

Rather than buy at the same time, it might be better to simply hold and let the whales battle it out. They can deal with price swings and force movements in the opposite direction.

I like this idea, I think we should be the drivers of bitcoins, especially those who have Bitcoin if they want to grow bitcoin to get a profit, they should do it like everyone else who has long been in the bitcoin story.
But it can not come on January 30, but it will slowly come, but I also think that we are too small for something, yet my conclusion is that we will not achieve anything on January 30th, there are other people who are too big for us and they dictate bitcoin and They do what they want because they contain big money.

It's good to see that your proposition to unitedly try to make the price of bitcoin boom.  But honestly in my own opinion this would be a futile attempt and it might to even kick off in the first place and even if it works the effect would be very temporary

Do you guys think that ETF will be approved?
I'm not so optimistic. And I don't see a point in bringing that kind of monstrosity that already exists in fiat world.

Or it's like this:
Whales buy futures and go long with leverage, wait for small fish to come aboard and go short with leverage while their loaded USD friends bankers senators and the rest of the elite are buying and selling futures without having to touch crypto. They're just waiting for a sign from the whales who like to get their hands dirty and know all those technical stuff with wallets and keys. The result?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZQ1oTYVMAA_-bs.jpg:large

As for the bears we all know that Bitcoin isn't dying, so there's not much they can do with the price. Those who like TA know that historically we weren't falling lower than 90% so if TA works we were already at 85%. Worst case scenario there will be 2,5k Bitcoin to grab this year. I couldn't care less.

you can't "make" the price rise sharply but it will do it eventually.

you can't force it because it needs investors to come back to the market as they gain their confidence in it back. otherwise as long as the manipulation is the dominant force and the price is being suppressed every sane person prefers holding (either their money or their bitcoin depending on their views and greediness). and holding means price won't change and whales remain in power because there is no opposing force in the market anymore.

How much BTCTC you think needs to be bought to put a din on the price? And where do you think people needs to buy it on? What if half of "everyone" decides to buy it on p2p market?

It's easy to say, but to think in reality, it's hard to happen. Not all people will follow you though it's a good idea. But with this bear market, it's hard to convince people especially who loss a big amount of money they invested in crypto.

I am glad Im not the only one, because the first thought I had was is this some sort of scam.

Maybe we can make a movement on the next 30 January, but is it possible that this movement will go according to plan, while the people out there feel fearful and only think of their own benefits.
I support for the 30 January movement, hopefully this will go viral

This is technically doable under one condition - whales would need to be willing to do so. Right now the market is definitely in stage "buy low", and prices are very stable for the last couple of days.

It seems that what you suggest is very reasonable, because if many believe in bitcoin and start buying it, the price will definitely go up again and now is the right time to buy it, because the price of bitcoin is now quite low.

A lot of this depends on the bitcoin miners, if they continue to dump it will be harder to start the bull run.  We need these big mining companies to hold strong and only sell the minimum amount required to pay for their electricity.  I'm starting to fear we may not see a new all time high until the next block reward reduction.

It's hard to convince people as they already seen what happen previously, though we are not sure what fate will bring if ever there's people who's willing to take the risk buying and holding their coins, aside from the whales who's always waiting for the perfect timing collecting their profits whatever the market goes.

You really think that these small amount of buys can make a difference, it is a good dream and you really think that you can make a difference in the market, if you would have said this eight years back then it would have made a difference, but not anymore, as everyone said there were the so called pump and dump groups earlier but i really doubt they made any difference in the price, now is the time for institutional investors and if they are to invest in it, you might see another rally in a short period. ;)

There's no need to tell each holder what to do. A responsible and wise holder will definitely going to buy the dip without the approval of others and bitcoin doesn't need to have this kind of pump and dump advice.

Everyone is free to do what they want but let themselves decide what to do.

As said on the first page, many people join certain groups that contain wholesalers if we don't have info in it, so we are just bait so we buy a few coins from whale sales, for me crypto prices will continue because and it would be better to keep coins when prices fall and sell afterwards and short-term trading is far more profitable than continuing to be a holding.

Yeah. Be naive. Right after the price will add a hundred there will be people who will hurry to sell to earn and all your plan will be broken. The market is full of egoists and I am pretty doubt you will find much of supporters of the idea.

In my opinion, it will not have much influence on the market. Because of the current situation, it really is not profitable for us

It's a lovely idea, but no it won't work. Even if all the members on this forum decided to purchase some BTC on 30/01 it would not affect the price, in fact, it would barely scratch the surface and as someone mentioned earlier the whales would just find a way to spoil the party.

a very good invitation, this should be disseminated to all media throughout the world maybe if all business actors who could be related to bitcoin provide comprehensive support,
 a new economic power would be created.
 let's start from this community and it will probably continue to all trade sectors.

Yeah it seems OP is trying to find ways to lure or encourage investors to buy Bitcoin at the end of the month of January but that is not possible due to this decentralized industry where we can do whatever we want with our funds without other peoples consent. Maybe OP is going to be paid by January 30th either he is a community manager or get paid from services he offered. To OP I think you don't need to do this. Just keep your Bitcoin funds if you don't need it right now. Wait for big surprises and you will surely make profit.

I think because it's payday. And we can only buy at payday where we have money.

I agree with the cycle if anyone knows where and when whales buy then it will the whales lost in the end. And we would not want that to happen. That is why most whale groups are private. :)

Wow, thanks for the responses, folks! To answer a few replies, I chose the 30th because it gives people time to deposit funds and be ready.
I also now  see and understand why this would be hard or impossible to do. I actually thought it would be a cool way to motivate people to buy and hodl long term. Whales could manipulate price but after steady hodling, we would all be proud of our accumulations.

Apparently that's your reason. Okay I think that's not bad. Thanks for your advice  ;)
For now I'm still holding my bitcoin. Besides that, I also continue to buy Bitcoin with the money I have. But, I don't plan to sell it on January 30.
I think I will hold my Bitcoin for 2 years. Yeah, I will wait until Bitcoin to the moon.  8)

Every investor has a way to do it when a bear market like this, at least what has been passed has given them many lessons on what to do, including giving suggestions to buy bitcoin. They want prices to recover but they know to make the price of recover not as easy as imagined. Having just a lot of capital is not enough to reverse this market, you must have many relationships so that this market persists.

All need time. Even though we have set a target for price increases, we cannot do much if the whales start playing.

That might not have such an impact to get bitcoin out of that zone. I think this can only be done for big investors because of the huge amount of money that can have a significant impact and that will make Bitcoin holders do the same.

It's already working...hahaha!

This is not needed to make bitcoin skyrocket ,even if everyone did what you wanted it won't have big impact ,bitcoin is not a small coin that needs pumping ,with time bitcoin always finds its feet at the right time

You are right, and bitcoin only need the right time to increase back as before. And when that time has come, it is no need to wait for a long time to see the price increase and even it will break more level of the price. We still have 9 days later to see if it's happening or not but I would be happy if that does not happen to bitcoin, but it's happening with the altcoin so I can try to recover my altcoin losses.

The recruitment of positions by the large may last more than one year; it is enough to compare the time period between the last two pamps. Although this does not mean at all that it will, I’m not at all like to project a retrospective of the future, so-so business. Too much has changed, the market has become more dynamic, everything has accelerated. I don’t think that financial sharks have invested so little (now) in building infrastructure with the aim of waiting for 3-4 years. I think the outcome will come much earlier)

One thing i've come to realize here is that the more you expect, the more the market would go the other way. It happens quite often. So for me, i'm not looking forward to any specific dates. I'm holding my btcs and i plan to hold for a long time.

I don't understand how people don't get this. Right now big whales are controlling the market, no news or adoption can change the price. We saw a 15% spike last week and we are back to the price of 3 weeks ago. Investing right now is not a smart choice. Oh, I almost forgot, the way your post sounds it's similar to what pump and dump groups do.

Bears are still roaring loudly and still occupying the market, some people who buy at higher prices are sure to choose to hold, but the bitcoin adoption rate is still too small because they consider the market still worrying.

The market does not work that way, Even planned pump and dump only benefit the initiator of the pump. The market will flow at it is, a projected scenario like those wouldn't work since a true investor will invest in a silently. Nobody likely could successfully turn the whole markets by making a scenario to buy Bitcoin at a specific amount of date. People that successfully make a profit in the markets investing with patiently and silently, I'm sure the time will come, and the hard work paid off.

The intention is good and if people will do it then the price will go up.
Though there will be problems for this as many people are not into it. and even small amount of BTC were bought in the market.
A huge amount to dump from one big whale can cover up the rise.

A good idea but not everyone can do that, what needs to be done is to survive and continue to promote that bitcoin remains a tool for transactions that we deserve to maintain. There must be a time when bitcoin will be valued higher than today.

I think it is easy to say that but it is not as simple as that, if we all buy bitcoin today and hold it for about 24hrs then the price goes up, then for sure to those holders for a long time will definitely sell their bitcoin so they will get profited to have an assurance that they will not lose it again when btc value will decrease again.

your topic is like advertising ... spirit is necessary but increasing prices is not as easy as what you say, indeed the price of bitcoin depends on demand, but looking at the current market situation, it is difficult to find people who will follow your advice, but why must the 30th January? Is there a special moment?

Most likely that what will happen, even there's people who will be convinced doing this, those who are holding for a while and see the opportunities will sell out for their benefits or to at least break even with their investments, we can't pull the price up just by doing this best to help promoting blockchain and how crypto can help the economy.

We can wait for more people to adopt and understand the system, the more supporters and en users, the more possible that the price will jumped high again, history already shows us how bitcoin works bounce back is always real and it can be much stronger from the last high.

Yes indeed we need to adopt bitcoin in a good way, this is one way to be able to promote bitcoin. The beginning of us who use it will be a lot of people who start to trust so that without us being aware there are many who buy bitcoin. A good idea and deserves support.

Hey while I admire your spirit in reality it’ll have no effect on the prices, cause buying few satoshis or few bitcoins as a whole does not effect the prices. I believe you’re confused that by buying bitcoins we can effect the prices, the only people who can do this are called whales and those quantities simply can’t be matched. Also it’s pertinent to note that you’re advocating pump and dump, which is bad in the long term.

lots of moments people gave speculation about this January but I see it seems that it doesn't give good news and it is very difficult to be able to make the bear market disappear, this year will remain the same as 2018, bear markets will continue, bull markets will probably occur when there is bitcoin halving.

So you could sell and then after price going back to normal to buy back? ;)
This topic have very bad smell for my taste, i don't like this financial "advice" disgused in making people do financial decision "for fun" or for someone else benefit.

I would advice to not participate in such schemes.

Giving a good idea will be good, but don't let the idea make you unappreciated. Trapping people to do what you want but ultimately you disappoint then the disappointment will be remembered. Promoting bitcoin is good and not compulsive, so later we will get a good impact.

A scheme such as this is no different from a pump and dump session which should be frowned upon, Even if it were to drive the price up it will be for a very short time before the price drops even further down than it was before the pump.

Even if people follows this i doubt some or many will just take advantage of the price, remember not all bitcoin holders are on this forum and they could make the market down instead. Let just bitcoin be and the investors be as the market is kind of untrusted right now and putting money is just a waste. Many have lost and if they see the price is increasing they might take that opportunity to gain back. it's a big NO for me.

What a stupid idea ,since when that putting money on crypto is just a waste?if we don’t help the market grow then who will do this for us?since it came out of your mouth that investors doesnt only from this forum how can they help us?this market grows by demand so lets buy coins to improve the market progression today and tomorrow

That's a good idea, but I doubt if people will heed your advice, people know that this is a bear trend, and they know that there is a possibility that their investment will go down, and besides people are on a wait and see attitude, and they have an idea of their own when they want to buy.

I don't know if this is reliable idea.
The market is very volatile and only the manipulator or whales can make it happen to change the flow of market price. Hunters cannot make it happen if there's nothing to buy the tokens. That's how important the part of traders and investors. Maybe we should wait for more days until such time the market increase again.

It is just like the old pump and dump groups on telegram that will fool people into buying a particular coin through their various coordinated channel of which they have invested before announcing this and ones they see that people start buying and they have reached the targeted pump, they will sell off their coin. I personally have been through this before. I fee used and dumped. I can never follow such statement and I believe so many other people here will also not. If you are into crypto to make short term huge profit, I dont think bitcoin should be your destination for now.

That's right because by adopting bitcoin with a lot especially from now on it's easy for bitcoin to experience a large price increase. because bitcoin can experience a rapid increase it depends on the user

something stubbornly trying to push the course up with varying success. Right now, a manipulative red candle was let out with a tail exactly on 4100, like, look, how they got out of support and now just up. IMHO, what is not very good, this rebound can end. So, at this stage, 4200 - 4300, this is the ceiling, but it is quite possible that we will correct to 3700 - 3600 and from there we can continue local growth with updating the previous peak to 4400 - 4500 or a little higher .. everything is much less optimistic.

It is possible but it takes someone famous like John Mcafee or much more popular to setup a pump.

I am also not sure if it is a healthy move as there would inevitably be a dump afterwards.

It's difficult. Since it is very difficult to manipulate the price, we need a very large number of people for this. Or several large investors. But it is unlikely to be organized.

If people could organize something like this then it might be possible but just like what you have said we really need a large number of people to make it happen. And the worst part is that it won't happen since we can't really force everyone to make it happen because we do all have different priorities in life.

Sorry, I don't think this is helpful for everyone, rather some specific people. This kind of behavior is not good for the crypto industry, because this thing will show to the new investors that how volatile bitcoin price is! And this is not an honest trick either, sounds like I am seeing a signal from a scam trade signal group!

This is certainly a good idea. But most likely we will not have enough purchases to raise the price of Bitcoin. Buy in any case is now, if we want to make a profit from investing.
But let it be so, I will also buy Bitcoin for a part of my money on January 30. Just because I was planning to buy more.

That spoiled brat think that he is just like John Mcafee that could pump a bitcoin market price in just a matter of hours. I agree that it is possible but the problem is that bitcoin market price could be pump requiring a huge money to do it. Anyway, news could help this by spreading good things about bitcoin and encouraging other people to invest in cryptocurrency.

Dont under estimate the power of every crypto enthusiats  . sure we arent powerful than whales and we dont have the ability the buy more coins but if we all unite , we can make a change because there are billions and trillions of people in this space .

And News dont encourage people to buy because most of us wont easily believe on the news especially  it doesnt have any solid  evidence  that it actually happen .

You have a good suggestion yet it won't happen unless all people are required to buy bitcoin as a means of payment. As of now, the only thing we need to do is to wait. Wait for the sunshine to light the market and make it as green as before. Some of the investors turn their investment in forex or stock markets. As a matter of fact, I have seen also the crypto market as non profitable nowadays. I will look forward if this opinion will be acknowledge.

It is possible that many of those present on the form are traders and it was at this time that they were actively selling bitcoin, trading with or without leverage. As noted above, this is a free market, and everyone is thinking about how to make money. Although it seems to me that small investors can not seriously influence the movement of the price of Bitcoin. Only large players can move prices for a long time period. And so the maximum that we can achieve is a short-term surge in prices up and then so rapid a fall. So we just lose our money.

since bitcoin is not some pump and dump shitcoin, its price will never "pump" and people like Mc Afee are only a tiny part of the ecosystem and their effects are only focused on the shitcoins, mostly the ICOs which he was advertising and getting paid for them and the altcoins that he obviously pumped.
other than that bitcoin is on its own trajectory and whales may manipulate it in short term but the long term direction and the final mass adoption result can not be change.