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First time here guys.

Lost 95% of my investment. Now gained a little more.

What's causing recent increase in price?

Did people finally realize that bitcoin is the future?

The good news is that Bitcoin IS the future. 

The bad news is that you just might need patience to see it. 


I think this is a temporary spike and we will stay between 2500 and 5000 until just before the next halving.  As with the last halving we saw a huge spike a few months before and then a moonshot several months after.   

HODL.

so 20,000 x 5 % is 1,000. a 95% loss

this means you are into something other than btc.

as it went from 20,000 to 3,100 or  an 84.5 % loss

So your math is off if you are talking about BTC

I get you may have been diverse   and BCH even with the split is still way down.

This a round bout way of asking  did you really buy in Dec 2017  or did you buy early peak up and hodl while it crashed.

I know some guys with 150 btc that just hodl and did not sell a single coin in 2017 dec.

If you really put in most of your money from Nov 2017 to Jan 2018   you are way down and you should hold for a while longer.

I do not know if we will even get back to 20000 but we could see some upward movement from now till dec 2021

Too early to say that, but this might due while halving is approaching. This increase might only short or long but this still best news for the past few months.

i think right now is not a bull market, it's just a recovery from before. cause the price is just keep on that point. let's see for 1-2 month if it's increasing a lot i think it's a bull market. don't worry about investing in bitcoin is the future. invest and keep HODLING

Well, all I can say to this is that, this is not the bull run. We need to observe a few more day and see the status and progress of the crypro market thread. The community of the crypto currencies is just recovering now. Even little by little this gives us all hopes.

From the past in this forum there have been those who said, "Never doubt the Bitcoin", something done begins with confidence, if you believe investing or buying against Bitcoin, do it? Many predictions say positive for the price of Bitcoin in the future.
Have you bought Bitcoin as much as possible, in the long and short term?
If you have done this, it's time for you to take advantage.

We are on a green now but I don't think that this is a sign for a bull market, it's slowly happening though and I think it's much better than a spike increase of prices of cryptocurrencies. The current price as of now is almost the price of Bitcoin on December of last year so it's too early to say that we're in a bull market.

In my prediction, if we pass the $5,000 mark before the month ends then we're going on a bull run, I've been an avid fan of Bitcoin ever since I knew it and I watched how it solidifies.

Bitcoin has not passed the 4000$ line since last year and it's great to see its price going to 4100$ but still this doesnt mean we are in a bull market. I think only after the price goes over 5000$ we can consider that and then wait for it to reach 10.000$ or more during this summer. Right now we have to waiting for the next halving because that really going to trigger the price to go skyrocket

Unlike the market scenario it is true, bitcoin is the future. A longest bear market now has come to an end as small scale growth has taken place with bitcoin. Following the bitcoin entire market is on the uptrend. Whether it is a clear bull market, no one has the answer but everyone in the cryptocurrency community is happy experiencing the growth.

This is just a recovery from our recent loses, but not an exactly bullrun, i believe that sooner or later after this pump, the price will drop again. Dont expect that we can gain a lot from this. But for sure bitcoin is the future.

LMAO, nice calculation there! ;D I think he invested on other alternative Crypto currency other than Bitcoin but based on his paragraph it looks like he invested on Bitcoin because he said this "Did people finally realize that bitcoin is the future?" ??? or he is just creating some fake stories and trolling around the forum.
Yeah there are a lot of people invested on Bitcoin when it is on all-time-high, I wonder what are they doing now. :)

Don't be fooled. We've already seen this movement before and I think this is just another trap to lure newbies hoping that they are seeing the bull. The bull will come months before the halving. Although the movement is positive, that doesn't mean a positive bull. But I might be mistaken since all I've seen are traps this year.

It is not a good time to get carried away by emotions, these movements are very positive, but, Bull Run is very early, since there are still many Bitcoins to accumulate, if you check the millionaire portfolios, you can see it.

The best thing to do is wait, it can be weeks, months, whenever necessary ... it can continue to increase, but at any time it will be corrected, it is the Law of Effort Results that obeys the Offer and the Demand.

how to know that?

recently we seen btc/like/eth/xrp/bch.
wallet Transactions Movement.
large transactions

so before the bull traps we seen whales moving in Exchangers.


but Now its a different game now its the otc.
otc means Buying under the table privately and without affecting price:) 


wealthy investors bought btc silently,  now ask yourself?  why they did so?? 

they did coz now they have enough coins.... 
they are going to prepare to sell them.


They Buy Up now all the panic sellers btc.

soon they gona see how high the btc price can Go really: D

they have invested like billions... so they expecting to get big profits

those guys are richest people they never invest in something wich is not going high Up in value!

they Will be very interested about to push btc price Up!!

We thought that bitcoin price now is on the bull because the price finally can break $4000, but as others said, it could be a trap for us because we want to chase the price for making a profit.

But if the bull run is really happenings now, then we need to place the bitcoin on the sell order especially if you are suffering from the last year because you bought bitcoin the high price. But it doesn't mean that you need to sell right now, you could still hold your bitcoin until the last price you bought so you can expect to make a profit.

But it's too early to say the bull market came because we need to see what will happen in the next weeks and if somehow the price can increase higher than now, then the bull run slowly turn the position of the bear market or at least, the price can stay at a price now.

But if it's not, then we will see the price get down again in less than $4000.

I leave the chart on here so we can see or make a prediction of bitcoin movement on the market:

https://i.imgur.com/kYWBYyI.jpg

Who knows, the current momentum is hard to determine whether it is a real coming of bull or just another artificial pumped from people who wanted to make an exit, it's our due diligence to make a proper observations and make a good call, protecting your investment and not to fall with any behaviors that you are unsure, best to assess much deeper.

If bull will overtake, the price will surely boomed.

Yeah sure, it will be boomed if this current price now will be continued rising up. But there is a significant if we heard a piece of good news that might be the reason for spiking price in the market. However, I'm just afraid if this will end up with a bull trap, well, I hope that is not, all we have to the now is watch the market and patiently wait for the aiming profit that we wanted for.

I agree with you man. We need to remind ourselves that from last 2017 of december, btc lost more than 150% of its value while majority of altcoins lost 1k% from their all time highs. Maybe we could start celebrating and announce its a bull market when it goes back to $15k again.

Nope.

This is just the confusing Wave 4 of the Elliot Wave Theory and there will be a time that it will test again its previous lows. There is no bull market at this moment. I think the best thing to do is lets just hold what coins are we holding right now and sell it after a few years.

I won't say that we have entered into the Bull market yet but yes, it is a good sign and we can expect growth from this level with some constant volatility. When it comes to the crypto market bulls are always stronger than bears but when they exhaust, it creates an opportunity for the bears so we need to minutely observe the movement of big money and trade according to the flow of it when it comes to the investment.

Let's wait for $4500 and see how it goes, if it does hold and move to $5k, then definitely we're moving further away from the bears and the bulls might be around the corner. Remember, we kept on struggling to get past $4k, but suddenly we surge and move to $4200 so that a good start. And if could indicate that FOMO are slowly getting into the market, also once people FOMO it's hard to stop them.  ;D

this stage is what i will call a spike phase, yes this may be a sign of a bull run we all have been waiting for. But patience should a major tool at this time, we should understand that this market is determined by some many factors that we fail to put into consideration at times before we give a conclusive judgement.

It could be a bull run and also it could just be a temporary increase let just continue to observe the market
But one thing am sure is that the increase has nothing to do with people finding out that bitcoin is the future

We can't exactly say whether it is a bull run or not. Bitcoin had a strong resistance at the $4000 level but it broke it today.
If bitcoin holds it well now and increases in future then the chances are there that this the beginning of another bull run.
But if bitcoin doesn't hold it well and drops below $4000 again then we could say that it was just a minor gain in price and not a bull run.

I also think that it’s too early to talk about the bull market. I don’t remember who said it, but it reflects exactly the situation on the market:You can not do better - do worse, and then return, as it was.

no it is not a  bull market because a bull market can not happen over night. this is the transitional phase between the previous bear market and the upcoming bull market. right now we are starting to see more rises than falls and after some retracements and corrections we will enter the bull market.


next time don't buy shitcoins, and only stick to bitcoin so that you don't get dumped on! and when you buy bitcoin don't buy it in its bubble, buy it when everyone else is running away scared.

That can't be said as a bull run, the crypto price increase in recent days is a good news dan i hope this is the end og bearish market.

This can be mentioned a bull market, same time people never has mentioned it with a clear statement as bull market. Whenever there is some form of growth it gives happiness to the users. Now the entire user community is cherishing. Price has surpassed $4200, most altcoins too have been growing along with bitcoin making the network stronger and stronger.

I think, not yet. The crypto market is not yet fully in its bullish. But what I can say is that the market is just on its recovery. But I do hope that this little by little progress in the crypto market will keep going.

Market is moving forward. I don't want it is as a bull market but it is going to be bull. My investment in altcoins are decreasing day by day even in this green trend. I think after BTC and ETH stable, altcoins will pump.

You only lose or gain when you sell... so you have not lost or gained anything at all yet. I surely hope people like you who have bought at the ATH will hold onto their coins and not try to day trade themselves into a profit. The day trading strategy is a lot more risky and you have to pay the trading fees and subtract that from your profits.  ::)

My advice will be to sit back and relax and to wait for the real Bull run to happen, before you start buying and selling again. It is a lot less risky than trying to day trade and suffering actual losses.  :P

Today, bitcoin and the entire market have shown huge upward movements. Bitcoin has increased by at least 5% while other coins increase by as much as 12%. Bitcoin has now break the $4,000 resistance. However, this spike might not indicate bullrun because there were events this year where bitcoin increased by 10% then afterwards fell. Let wait for few more weeks if this will continue.

The market is slowly starting to increase and bitcoin is slowly moving upward and I hope it will continue to increase to achieve what I want, because I have bitcoin when the price is still high at around $ 11,000 and I hold it very strongly until now.
I hope the value of Bitcoin will return like the first time I have it at that time, because I have waited a long time and continue to hold it until now, I hope the current market movement is a bright spot to reach the highest price and I will continue to be patient and wait.

Kudos comrade for your recent gained. Actually we are experiencing recovery and not a bull run at the moment which is a good start for the year. Never mind the recent rise in the price because we still need more time to see this happening. The cause of this rise are good news coming from good lovers of Bitcoin enthusiast and we hope to see and hear more of these which will finally bring in the bull run.   

Rip! as soon as we hit $ 4050, all of a sudden people claiming we found the bottom. Why did we not correct this even a bit already?very very bad sign. When are you going to learn! Too early to make predictions like that folks! Daily RSI 74. What actually has changed in term of bitcoins stance? If this is actually a bull trap will be a bloody one!

You only lost if you sell.

I dont think we are in a bull market yet, but we are in a recovery. First the price need to go to the 8-12k range, and only then we can talk about a bull market.

Be prepared, though, because when it starts, it will go straight to ATH and surpass it very quickly.

I think some of them only who realize that bitcoin is our future because if we noticed the market only increasing little because if more people are realized that bitcoin is real opportunity for sure it willrise the value of the bitcoin become very high and I think it will happen that next few months market increased very high.

You don't get loss if you sell on the right time. Bull market this year is expected last year ago. Everyone was down because bearish market and expected higher because it rises in 2017. Bitcoin price is composed of BEAR AND BULL where in people always expect a higher pricen,  they get lost because of their own words of expectations without doing any researches that's why they get lost.

We have to still wait as it is seem a bull trap to me.  Some investor may likely take profits this week and that may push bitcoin down a little.  I believe that if bitcoin cross $4250 it will be set for a bull run.

for the last day, bitcoin did get a few increases. I do not know, this trend will continue or only briefly. because in my opinion, this happens because the amount of bitcoin supply is almost fulfilled.

This is also my opinion on the current rise of the price. For me it doesn't look like a new bull run but rather like a recovery of the market. Since prices are already falling again today, i think we are right with this assumption. A new bull run would have been nice, but a steady growth is better.  :)

Presently the price of bitcoin is retracing or pulling back that is to show that the speculated bullish market has not evolved yet, expectedly I suggested a kind of bull trap was experienced recently the same scenario had repeatedly reoccurred, so its not a new thing I expect the price to break the resistance at $4100 to $4200  before any meaningful bullish runs.

Market conditions are improving, but not yet able to ensure that the bull run comes, stay patient and hold your assets to achieve better profits.

Like what I've expected and feeling it's not the start of bull run. The recent rise was just a normal increase of price and not the one we are waiting for. Look the price goes down again as usual after a rise. Accept the fact we won't have a bull run every year. Now I know why people think negative even if there's a slight fall because they think in every rise as a bull run, a vice versa indeed.

it's definitely not that people realized bitcoin is the future. that already happened at the $20k top when everybody was screaming "new paradigm" lol. the recent price increase is mostly just seller exhaustion, shorts closing, and old money buying back in after selling higher. i think it's more so a function of weak supply rather than strong demand. i don't think there's much "new money" coming into the market right now.

Nice comment, among all other comments, with a bit of sense and logic. We had temporary rise, nice peak little over 4000, I sold some bitcoins and looks I did a good thing. I`m constantly saying people that with bitcoin price prediction everyone should be careful, to not get to exited when price starts to move in any direction, no panic, peaceful mind, you never buy all at once, you never sell all at once, cause you never know what will happen, and just in case you need to have open options. It`s to early to talk about bull run and new money, that will come with time.

There is still an opportunity to experience price increases, the market situation is still very volatile and everything can happen. I am still optimistic that there will be a better change. We only need to wait and be patient. The situation will never stop and we must be able to get the right momentum.

I may think that 80%( just for me)were still have positive insights for crypto bull runs and 20% in doubts and in negative minds.
Not absolutely we could see bull run early this year, might possible we could witness this either in the 3rd or fourth quarter same time it happen in previous years but we can't still be sure as our market look too volatile today than of before.

Market is still fluctuating continuously so we should not wait for this moment because market is already going to down so we must exchange our investment in USDT. This year we are all celebrate the last week pump so try to use this dip for day trading and we will earn more profit in short term investment.

Doesn't seem anything like a bull market to me... These are just small rises in prices which eventually correct within a week. I will only start believing that the bull market is one when the price smashes past 5K - 6K

How do you get to see the future? Is it the lost that you have made or how do mean. If you must gain profit from your investment so far, you have  keep holding as we all hope that with time Bitcoin market value will rise again. The recent increase in market value of Bitcoin could be attributed to so may factors ranging from the forces of demand and supply, whales activities and the rest if them.

 As of now we can't tell more because bitcoin at the moment  experience again a small dump . Which is in my opinion we need to wait for more results if there's still a tends that on this circumstance bitcoin can climb back to the previous value . Actually theres still a green on it but seems like very low and have 50-50 chance to increase more base on the pattern.

I think there's no bull run coming, this currently happening now with a small spike price in the market is just a recovery from dept price in the market and I think a bull run takes maybe a month or a year. So, it is a very early stage to conclude that we are now in the bullish trend.
However, despite this happening now we can still hold our coins, not panic selling.

İf you have lost 95%, your portfolio must be predominantly at altcoins. So it is nearly impossible even for the BTC to recover your portfolio. You have to choose one of the biggest altcoins which have X20 potential. Look at Cardano.

The future in the sense that it can create new set of rich people that believes in it and hodl but not the future that it will totally change the financial topography of existing fiat.

We are near to hear some good news from crypto market. Hopefully price will hit a great amount. It is the starting time of bull run for crypto currency. Don't worry about the price. It is taking its time and we should wait for it.

Nothing special here it's just a temporary rising, in few days we will see the price fall down again, if people already realized it's potential then there will be a big news and the price will rise without stopping, but in reality the price going up without any news, so it's just whales playing with the price

More likely that we are in a correction now. 3657 will be 61.8%. Probably there will be an opportunity to buy again btcusd (https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BTCUSD/).
For the moment we had probably completed wave 1 in the wave 3, all the growth is still to take place. Let's wait and hope in better.

I expect more correction like this before the bull run, let’s not panic because its normal. The bull is still there, let’s wait for the right moment.


Yes, too near for a great future and this is the chance of buying cheaper bitcoin because it can pump high easily for sure in the coming months so be ready.

People doesn't have to realize that bitcoin is the future, we are already aware of that but it isn't enough to make the prices go up. We are still on the moment of correcting and while looking at the market, there will be probable dips in the future.

It was a rapid pump which was followed by an unexpected rapid dump. We have been thinking that it were just the whales that plays to the market, who added billions of dollars to the market cap and later on took profits when they were satisfied.

The latest increasing in price of all the cryptocurrencies was due to investors reaction to some good news that has hit the market. I think we are seeing some formal investors coming back and I we should expect more bullish trend some months to come.

I think we are getting to a buyers vs sellers equilibrium price point.
This means we go sideways and up eventually.
Enroute to the moon a lot of people want their investment back so there are a lot of people that will sell on their way up.
Also people with deep wallets are getting in.

I don't believe the Samsung news has any influence. It is good news but not groundbreaking.

We are nowhere close to being in a bull market and this should be obvious to anyone that follows the market every day, I am sorry that you lost such a great amount of your capital, you probably invested in icos since it is impossible you could have lost so much money by just investing in bitcoin and I hope you learned that most icos are scams and are not worth your time.

And finally while bitcoin is the future of money we cannot expect that people come to this realization overnight.

I don't think you should call it a lost since you never sold your coin during the dump, it is only a lost when you panic sell. I commend you a lot for still holding on to your coin even when the dump began and i can assure you that with the good news which we have been getting this year eg, samsung S1O to have a crypto wallet embedded in it and also google keyboard having bitcoin logo, i think we will see a great rise this year.

No, we haven't got into a perfect bull market. The bull market will make more inflow of investment into the cryptocurrency. A forward price move possible contribute to the start of price pumping. Later upon the continuity it get with the market increase we can predict whether it is an bull market or not.

Sorry for the loss.
We are just recovering the market value and it is not eben constant yet.
I dont know if there is any other crypto currency that may rise to supercede bitcoin. But so far,Bitcoin is really the coin for the future.

This is Just a Hype where people want to spread, nothing is going to happen for couple of months as we are experiencing the bear market till now. guys don't be optimistic and Just make this golden opportunity by Investing in coins once the market turns green I am sure you can make loads of money where you cant even Imagine about it.

Looking at the price of Bitcoin for the past 7 days, the price has not made any significant move that we can call it a Bull market yet. Price moves at only 2%  in other words its moving sideways. So far the highest that we had for the last 7 days is $4,055 which happened February 23, after that the price just moved from $3,700 to $3,900.

Not yet. Because the price of bitcoin still volatile last week it hits 4k price and now drop again to 3800 price. That's why it's hard to say that we are in bull run in this kinfmd of situation.

What do you mean by losing in investments?have you sold all your coins/tokens ?because if not you are losing nothing because the amount of your assets still interest in your wallets/exchanges

But your question has been answered now mate,because bitcoin for us is the future currency and we will take it untill every country’s and governments adopted and accept the legitimacy of cryptocurrency

To put it more precisely, what is happening now with bitokin can be called preparation for a bull market, in reality, a bull market will start only when Bitcoin overcomes 5000. This is a psychological mark after which many major market players will begin to buy crypto-currency.

5K It is a good number, many will enter long not to miss a possible bullish candle, however the price goes up without volume, it is good, because there is not much effort, which can take new values ​​and maybe we reach 5k so fast, but can go back if you get a lot of offer, because the Strong Hands need to take profits.

the problem is :
right Now no buyers no new investors who entering to crypto market.
now just the same old buyers and sellers.

its Not Bull market yet. 

Second problem:  No fiat to enter...  2017 was a boom in Economy so Everybody Got a lot money to invest in to btc.

To make good bull we need to dump a lot Fiat currency into crypto market.
Where we will Take that much Fiat?

It is not so much the FIAT, what is needed is that the bitcoin rise to new prices, if it rises from 4k to 5k, the Strong Hands, have to look for those levels with the intention of testing the offer, it can immediately generate a correction to take profits selling and can fall much lower than right now, the important thing is that since the levels of 3k were not found with sales, that is the reason that they must raise the price so that they continue to accumulate bitcoins.

As a transaction medium that we can operate in every country, bitcoin is the only breakthrough that's proven to be able to answer various problems related to transactions both present and future, as well as an answer to the shortcomings that exist in conventional currencies made by the government. And IMO, bitcoin has fulfilled the financial concept, for example to describe something unknown, uncertain and excessive risk which is generally prohibited.

I'm personally very interested in the potential of bitcoin, especially if we look at it from a financial perspective because bitcoin can be used without involving third parties or banking, and he's unique. In short, many people are interested in discovering the potential of bitcoin and its benefits, with a note first of all must be aware of the risks and disadvantages.

when the rise starts there will be an inflow of money to the market which would easily absorb any sells, just like any other previous times that we had the same trend. initially price hits the bottom and becomes stable for a while where everyone accumulates. then we see these small rises towards the resistances ($4.1k in this case) and then it eventually breaks and by that time no matter how much people sell, it won't slow down.

Correction will continue to occur after price increases, as some time ago prices have risen to $4k, and corrected again to $3800.
but you don't have to worry, prices will definitely rise again when trends and issues change. this year, surely a bull run will occur

new Capital and new People is what we need!

Same Capital what is in circlelation.
and same old People.

On the "short time scale" in terms of weeks we are still in a bearish market since last years peak.
But if you look at the longer picture we are still rising. If you look at all the developments being made I still believe that the value of bitcoin will rise.!

It will all depends on the ease of use if major adoption is what we aim for. People want an "easy" solution, i.e. a black box, where they don't have to think about safety or complex algorithms. This is for me the key for future value rise in Crypto.

Just my 2 satoshi's  ;)

Cheers to all

I do not think that we are finally in bull market, and I think that we need to wait for more confirmations. I also think that we will see BTC under 3k$ but that is just my own speculation. Currently i have 50% in BTC and 50% in Tether.

This is a good market to buy before the actual bull run begins and market crosses 7k, 10k etc. So better if people want to make a good investment now is the time and get the return in coming years if stayed invested in the great coins.

We just need patience for it, don't be too quick to see the market to react after the bad days.

We're not fully into bull market and it takes time to see it there.

95%?In which altcoins have you invested?
You will have to wait for a long time to witness the new ATH of bitcoin/altcoins.
The number of people that relaize bitcoin is the future hasn't changed at all and it won't change soon.

if you choose the name of any altcoin you will get your answer since most of them lost somewhere between 85% to 99% of their value. specifically when people invested in ICO tokens they lost the most amount of money as they got dumped the hardest.

besides it is not about what coin to choose it is always about bad timing with bad choices. all these shitcoins got pumped and that was a huge profit but only to those who didn't stick around for more than a couple of days in those altcoins...

As is the market at this time, the best thing to do, for those who have the opportunity to buy and maintain, is the best, we are not yet bull run, we must wait for the offer to end, for the bitcoin to begin upload effortlessly, that is, when we see that the bitcoin rises in price without volume, is the last chance to continue buying cheap, because it is very likely that there if the long expected bull run, and see everything in green again.

New people will only come if we make bitcoin more popular. Each one of us has to tell our near and dear ones the benefits of bitcoins so that more people can come and invest in bitcoins.



As per experts we need to touch 2900$ before we actually pump up and that will be the exact start of the bull market. No one knows when we will hit 2900$ but I think there is one big dump anytime soon.

Most people here don't know what is a bull trap, don't they? When you see a sudden price increase when there is no big news occurs then it is basically just a bull trap, meaning, it will drop so soon, mostly a week or two and that is the longest streak they have at least that i know. I think the main reason why it just occurs is that whales have to clean the market that is full of newbies.

It's more worst than hype market price it will eventually fall down after sudden increase. Hopefully newbies will lean eventually and won't fall into the bull trap next. Let's wish those whales will do the rest of everything here in crypto and could help the community boost an outstanding market despite of struggles behind. We're all lucky to have those whales being part of crypto, so let's cherish the days that they're being with us.

no new People not Come those who are in are in.
The new People need very spefic reason to join.

If we dont see something change then all crypto will crash.

New investors don't have any special reason to risk their hard earned money for a new type of business model. Crypto industry is developing and this development bring more features like speed, anonymous, reliability,security,decentralization but these factors are not enough for big whales in order to add coins to their main portfolio.

Not yet because if you see the market it's hurt to eyes the red color, and we have no choice because it's depending in demand of the market. Hopefully this year will have a great market so we can say the bull run is starting.

investors are risk takers and they love to see the downfall of the price because that is the time that they will enter  . i believe new investors are now slowly entering the crypto market but not all investors are whales  . existing whales do already have main coins on thier wallet and they are willing to add more soon because they want to manipulate the market again  .


if we dont see change  . the market will not crash but it will only became stable  . 

bull market isnt here because a bull market only means higher price pump  .

In my local area, I from time to time pass by a Bitcoin ATM. Back in late 2017, I would basically see at least 1 or 2 people at that ATM. Right now I passed by the ATM, maybe 20 times and only once did I see someone purchasing some Bitcoins.

Maybe its because people rather use an exchange instead due to the lower fees, but the new adoption/retail market is certainly not buying at the moment.

Unless we at least print $10000 on the charts, the retail market will stay out.

Really?on what basis for you to say that bitcoin will go down below $3,000?

We are currently almost passing $4,000 again so its unfair that you are telling us this speculative price when everyone is looking for another growth

You are bitcoin investor so you should act as one ,be a supporter and spread good perceptive than negativity

the recent increase cannot be called a bull run on the market, because basically the price of bitcoin only rises to the price of $ 4000 and then goes back down. well, but this has given a pretty good sign for price increases. I hope prices can recover sooner.

A few hours ago there was an important movement, the price fell without volume, it may be generating a small bull, maybe we can try new price ranges, 4k or 5k is what I think they can touch to test the offer, with lower prices, there will be no offer.

Be patient, there is still a possibility to recover. With the losses you experience it will be a pain if you decide to leave, and it is wiser if you are more patient with this situation, the market will not fall forever but still have a chance to grow better.

Its not a bull market when its still deciding factors, I would call this more of an accumulation. Its quite boring but also this is a time for development.

Right this moment I see its fallen with some higher volume which makes me think we check the 3700 area for 50 day moving average

https://i.imgur.com/L8q37N1.png

Even with the present of new capital and new people in the crypto market, the bull run trend will never happen because the wont much confidence in the market future which is alot of newbie and high member of this forum ask question if Bitcoin will make. Therefore, the market itself is not ready for any form bull run market

This year I am sure the market will improve, but the increase is not too much. The prediction price is a maximum of USD 4,500, I think it's pretty good.
Bitcoin owners need market certainty to respond to bitcoin trading, so that price movements will increase. This is what makes bitcoin owners remain optimistic.

If you look at the market still, we are in a bearish mode which we cannot able to guess whether how long it is going to take for the market to recover. Just small movement will not consider it like a bull run, we need to wait patiently for the market to recover its prices.

Exactly. People thought that if we surpass 4k then the bull market is going to start. But, this raise was so small compared to the dropped that we have suffered all these months.
I think that in the end of Q1 it will be clear if we will go up for the bull market or we will continue in this stagnant condition with the bear market enabled.

We are all stay in a bearish mode, But no one is say the future pump and dump because last year market was totally collapsed in with in a day so we will see the 2k jump in upcoming months. We never guess when it will going to peak so keep hold our Bitcoin is the only hope.

I don't understand how you guys are expecting a bull run in this tough market phase, economically the market has been under the dump from the past 6month which is a big drawback of crypto history. And people are setting goals for bull run? The value of BTC is not even surpassing 4.5k and how can we expect a bull run.

I had the same questions many times, past and this year more than ever before, every little rise causing people to talk about bull run. When its happen in some time, I believe it will happen, everyone will feel it, it will be all over the internet, television, the one in 2017 caught a lot of attention, next one will have more attention on every media, everyone will hear or see it.

We didn't enter the bull market yet,we are just at the beginning of it (maybe).

If you are still holding your investment even after that 95% loss then you should continue to do it because remember that you never lost anything until you sell it so just keep all coin as bitcoin if you can and ready for the rage.

It is true that new capital is needed but where that capital is going to come from and why investors will choose to invest in the market? Investors are not charities, they need to have reasons to invest because they want to earn money as we do, so if you want to earn money during this year you have no other choice but to become a trader, since it is the only way to make money when there is no new capital coming to the market.

New capital will come if BTC can make a run to 10k and break it. Other than that BTC IS DEAD!

This is closely related to the global situation in which world finances are improving, crypto prices have also improved. So there are indications that the increase in crypto prices for the next two or three months is still very reasonable.
Crypto price stability is maintained while the world is experiencing growth and is part of world trade, so public trust in crypto is increasing. Price increases will arrive soon.

Friend, maybe you still have to be patient to wait for recovery, the market is still slow to move up, and hopefully after passing mid-year market conditions can get better.

The market had not been fully taken over by the bullish trend, there had not been any tangible positive news that might have triggers the much awaited bullish runs while the price keep on pump and dump as expected for now I am on the sideline watching price Action of the market.

What we've been experiencing seems to be the gradual growth, and the same could lead to a bull market if it gets continued support from the small volume holders in large scale. As we are into the last month of the first quarter of the year, it is supposed to provide us with some wild variation on the market. Hope to see the bull market soon.

I think you don't need to be afraid of the losses you are experiencing because you have confidence in bitcoin will have a future, and of course you will be able to recover from the losses you experience, keep holding and don't panic.

I think you can try to learn market movements from the last 10 months, and look for any new information that can find trade growth.
and I did not find that bullrun will come soon in a short time, yes until the middle of this year it will not grow high.
in my opinion

Nope, were still on a bearish market. I will only say that were on a bull run if my tokens are all up.   But at the current situation of the market still.the bears are dominating.

of course not. at the moment the price of bitcoin is not rising high, so I think we haven't entered the zone from the bull run. but I believe that the price of bitcoin will rise to be higher in the future. hopefully this month we will get a bull run.

Bull market is still far away, so you have to be more patient. The main cause of the recent increase is from bitcoin users who use it. If many users sell then there will be a supply so that the price moves down, so also if many users buy then there will be a demand so the price moves up. That is what causes the increase at the moment, but the amount is still very small unlike crypto in general which has very large fluctuations. Bitcoin will fluctuate in large amount if there are other big reasons, but this hasn't happened yet. Bitcoin is indeed a good future, we see bitcoin in the future, I am sure to experience good development.

That is truth,  bitcoin has been moving in a channel and it is very difficult for some one to actually predict if the market is in bullish trend now as it has not really moved from the last bottom.  The market is somehow stable now and it is very difficult for us to see market directions as it is in time past when the volatility always show the market directions in a shortest time.

Each and every user is in the urge of experiencing a bull market. This is all because of the price bitcoin reached earlier, no one expected such growth, and when it happened users believed it'll grow big further. The same lead to missing of the opportunity profiting big. Now everyone expect similar growth so that can benefit out of the same. Newcomers never expect suddenly and majority were the users who missed it badly.

I will not predict a bull run at this time of the bear market. It is very hard to determine whether a bear period is over or not because people may decide to sell and get their profits when prices reach a certain level which may also bring us back to the lows again. I think we must be very watchful not to be deceived by the current market movements which may let you to buy when you are not ready.

And this is precisely why it will not happen, those kind of sudden market movements happen when nobody is expecting them, in any market there can only be a few winners, it is just their nature and the sooner you understand that the sooner you will understand that a bull market now is impossible because many are expecting it, so it is likely that for the rest of the year we are going to see the market ranging and not moving that much.

I have a feeling that BTC will go over $4,000 very soon and all alts will retrace to their previous levels.

For sure it will go over  $4,000, the price movement is very good lately and I Like what I'm seeing.
Good to know that you are bullish on bitcoin as well, I hope more people would be bullish so they could help push the price uptrend.

We are actually experiencing very really rise in bitcoin and some altcoins for the past few weeks now and it is as a result of few investors who are beginning to realize that the BULL RUN speculated for this year/early next year might be a reality, thereby making some of the investors.

Though not the famous ones pump more of their money into the bitcoin market, reason for the few coins appreciating in price as said by the OP is as a result for stronger community they beginning to add more in preparation for the BULL, so for now, the price is actually rising but slowly, at least from $3800 btc traded on early this month has experience growth to  $3964 this week.

Now the market situation is completely in positive which almost altcoins prices are slowly increasing but Bitcoin price is still at the same value. Maybe the by the end of the year we might expect the price of Bitcoin will easily cross more than 6000$.

Recent news is, as Bitcoin marketcap has tremendously grown, by June we might have a huge spike. This is what was heard. Hope, the current healthy trend continues and as per the news, we see a good spike yielding profits to all who have bought and held bitcoin since February 2018. The best time to buy more coins.

we all have that feeling. however, I think that the increase in the price of bitcoin to $ 4000 is not the intended bull run. maybe the bull market is meant when all crypto prices rise above 5%. well, that might be a sign that the bull run has started.

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I think we are at an important point now. Maybe even the coming hours could be decisive for the direction of the coming month or two. btc usd (https://www.tradingview.com/symbols/BTCUSD/) have a range now between 3800 and 3940, since the bears failed to break the 3800 yesterday and the bulls failed to break the 3940 a few days ago.

Yesterday we could see LTC' and ETH' getting very weak, breaking low time frame support. It also looked like Bitcoins 3800 would break, there were a few attempts even at the low, but they all failed. Since then, LTC' moved up quite strong again and ETH' a little bit. The whole crypto market (without Bitcoin ), the chart on the left, has moved up quite well since yesterday's low. After the break of that wedge , the drop and now the retest, it is starting to look like the market maybe doesn't want to drop. It is still below that red resistance, which is THE level to break, but if bears were in full control, we usually see it drop faster than this. Not sure yet, but maybe the bulls are up to something. I am thinking this, because the Open Intrest on Bitmex went up a lot the past days. Almost at 500 mil now. I find it a bit remarkable, to see so many buyers (compared to the past 3/4 months) while the market is at a dangerous price and at a weak spot as well. Could be meaningless and just a lot of big crazy buyers trying something, but i give benefit of the doubt to the bulls now. Also because that 3800 simply did not break yesterday, even thought volume was decent at that moment.

Anyway, chances are very high to see a big move soon, up or down. The 3800ish seems to be a very clear level now, so if that one breaks, we could see a big drop towards the 3500 even. Past weekend i thought a correction to 3700ish would still be a normal/healthy one, but with the OI this high, i don't think the drop will stop there if the 3800 breaks. On the upside, same story. Since OI is this high now, it means a lot of shorts are in play now with probably a lot of stops starting above 3940. So i think if that level breaks and seeing it getting above 4000 (with normal buying and not a short squeeze) while volume increases on the way up (most important factor), we could see a big rally happen. Maybe even above the 4200.

So there are some uncertainties, but one thing i am sure of, if we see a touch of 4200 again, even if it gets rejected at first, if will break eventually. Low time frame, i would keep a close eye on ETH'. If that one breaks up on the lower time frame, could be a big sign. Broke that blue curved line, but not yet a real break out. To be clear, the bearish wedge is still in full play here, Bitcoin' has a similar one which is even weaker. So between 3800/3950, anything can happen. Break of 3800 is probably a big sell signal. If we do move up, keep an eye on volume , if that doesn't increase on the way up, it can still be a fake move. Really need to see a fight on the way up, i am saying this, because those were the only real rallies we have seen the past months.

There have been a few bull traps recently so i'm hesitant to call the recent price hike the start of a recovery. Even now that bitcoin is above $4000 by the time i finish writing this message the price could have fallen a few hundred dollars already

The smartest thing at this moment is to wait, because of the movement towards the $ 4k, it was a movement with considerable volume, it is very normal in this phase of the market (According to the Wyckoff methodology), the Law of Effort-Result is being executed, Bidding is being tested towards higher offer levels.

We can not rule out a possible bullish trap, in general there is still a long way to go. For now, as I see the market, at this time I would not enter any position, since these movements are still seen with some uncertainty. Following some Jesse Livermore teachings, there are times when you should not enter the market, simply observe and, in that case, react to important movements.

It is very funny to say that the price movement with a very small margin is said to be bullish has started, this hasn't started yet.
I know that many of you really want to see the market go green again, be patient

Bull market will start if people even the ordinary will invest to the bitcoin again.

Bull maket is what we want or what we expect to happen. There is a chance to happen also there is a chance to not happen. Even we are in the market turn again to green we can see still dumping if the people did not maintain it.

Everyone wants to end of the bear market and start the bull market as soon as possible. We cannot know if we are in the bull market or not.

Yeah the growth of a few hundreds isn't by far an indication of a bull run. I think we should accept the possibility that that bullrun we've all been waiting may not come probably this year. Basing on the first quarter movements, there aren't aby solid reason why another big run would happen. The possibility of us dropping is quite even.