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Related topic: {Facts} Benefits of promoting (joining) a quality paid signature campaign. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5128076.0)

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I notice the sudden interest of newbie/jnr members wanting to join signature campaigns, starting thread on this board in the past few weeks. I recommend you read this post Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.msg16904309#msg16904309) and in addition to the above topic I'll list some factors you should consider before joining a paid signature campaign irrespective of your rank because the signature you wear speak alot about you on forum.

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[1]: Build your account before joining a campaign.

I consider this as the most important factor to consider before joining a campaign. If you haven't built your account don't go joining a campaign because it'll only distract you. It's more benefiting to join paid campaigns as Full member but joining as a self made member isn't that bad also. Take your time to built your account, there'll be more campaign in the future. Don't be in a rush to earn via forum.

[2]: Join a campaign you agree with and not just for the payout.

If you're the type that dislike gambling or have no idea on how it works, don't go joining a gamble campaign just because they pay better. It will lead you to spamming and most times posting off topic.

View this as an example.

The user in question is promoting/wearing a gamble related signature but speaking bad against the board isn't that contradicting what he's advertising. Join a campaign you agree with don't join just because of payouts.

[3]: Consider Weekly maximum post required.
Avoid campaigns that requires high number of maximum posts weekly, such campaigns does the forum no good and only encourages spamming. Evaluate your posting skills and from your post history determine what your average weekly post is, don't just up into any campaign that'll end you up with rapid increase of post counts without adding value to the forum.

[4]: Join a campaign that encourages quality posting:
 Consider the bitcoin you get paid as a monetary reward for your quality posting on the forum so as merit is also a reward. The campaign you join opens doors for more benefits on the forum then just earning bitcoin, there are some special campaign managers that if you get accepted into the campaigns they're managing, you can consider yourself as a reputed or quality poster on forum, that should be the type of campaign you should strive to join as such campaign encourages quality posting and I'll help build your reputation as a quality poster on forum.

[5]: Consider boards post count are accepted in.
I notice many forum users joins signature campaign without considering the boards they're most active in. I recommend you join a signature campaign based on the boards you're active in, currently I won't join a campaign that doesn't consider Beginner and help board as an acceptable baord for post count. Reason been that that's the board I'm most active and familiar with and enjoying answering questions ask and assisting newbie on the board. Lets say there's a campaign focus on accepting participants only posting on Development & Technical Discussion baord (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=6.0/) I won't apply for such campaign since I'm not that familiar with the board and most of my post would be considering off topic as I'll be struggling to meet my post count which might lead to spamming the board and might end up getting ban or removed from campaign.

[6] Know the project well before advertising.
Before you apply to promote any project through signature campaign, carryout some background check on the forum and google too, make sure that project is legitimate and has no past record of scam or it's a scam. Advertising scam project through signature could lead to your account recieving Red tag.
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Guidelines: Guide on avoid red tags by supporting already known scam projects (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104083.0/)

[7]: Consider the reputation of campaign manager before applying.
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Reputed CM: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412712.0/)

[8]:Verify fund available and address ownership through sig message
Before joining a signature campaign always verify if the campaign manager has the available fund to pay participants for the week. You can do this by searching the bitcoin address posted by CM on https://www.blockchain.com and if you're in doubt of address ownership you can request for a sig message to prove he/she has control over the private key of that address.
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[9]: Consider the payout option before applying.
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[10]: Read the rules of participation in the campaign:
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In as much as you participate in a paid signature campaign on forum, you shouldn't forget the main reason forum was created and always try your best to add value to the forum irrespective of what you're doing as you stay on forum.

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This topic is open to more suggestion from you guys and I'll update thread as better suggestion are mentioned.

6: Know your Signature well before advertising: Check whether you are promoting a legit project or not. Check whether link in signature are not malicious or leads to the phishing site. Whenever in doubt, raise concern. Don not keep mum because it is paying you.
   

Very good points you have given us here. So many times I have skipped a campaign application just because I don't want to wear a gambling signature. Even though the money is good. Because gambling is a disaster for the people who take part in it, and is bad karma for the ones who promote it. Also you are encouraged to post in the gambling boards, and probably in topics you don't understand well. Also, I skip those campaign where the minimum number of posts is 25 or more. For most non English speakers like me, posting that many posts is a problem, and a sure way to promote forum spam.

Another factor to weigh-in is the reputation of both the Campaign Manager and the Campaign itself. A Campaign Manager with a track of well managed campaigns could be an important plus to consider, and checking this out may lead to better chances that the campaign does not eventually turn out to be a fiasco in terms of compromised crypto revenue.

Most campaigns (not all) also require that you wear their avatar (once you are a Full Member or above). I find that an avatar influences quite a bit on the image that we have of one than the signature he wears, since it’s part of the profile information on the left of the posts that we normally visualize. Having a crappy ICO avatar can easily be associated to your person, and thus “contaminate” your profile (says I, who does not bear an avatar by choice …). 

Your own virtues aside, I'd say the nature of the campaign is the most important. Understandably the gambling campaigns want you to post 5 or 10 times a week in the gambling section.

I think I've only posted in there 5 or 10 times in my entire life so I'd be forcing myself to post meaningless filler since I care not a jot for it. That would be a bad look for me and the campaign.

Note if the Manager has provided a unique address to pay for the campaign and if he has enough funds to pay everyone. Ideally, the campaign has contracted an escrow with a good reputation in the forum to be responsible for storing the funds.

How about, "Don't join any campaign which mandates KYC procedures".

There is no ICO that is worth KYC. There are no amount of useless tokens that are worth having your identity stolen. Giving your documents to someone online is a terrible idea in every case, but doubly so when you are giving it to a completely unknown entity, and triply so when that unknown entity is launching what is likely to be a scam (since >95% of ICOs are scam). Having your identity stolen can take you years to recover from - you can end up saddled with debt that isn't yours, with a completely shot credit rating, even being charged from crimes you didn't commit and ending up with a criminal record which can affect your job. It's just not worth the risk.

This is very important in curbing spam on the forum. And as much as possible, bounty managers should encourage their hunters to make quality contributions. This works both ways, it helps clean up the forum, and gives the project quality promotion.
Members are more likely to check out the signature of the poster of well articulated post, than random spam.

No doubt the number 1 you listed is the most important. Build your reputation here and build your account before applying.

This way you are also less likely to promote scam, as you will be worried about your reputation. Also, avoid newbies managing campaigns, as it will probably be a scammer.


There is one important thing also. When you join a campaign you will have incentives to post. This is somehow a problem, because it's hard to post a lot.

One good thing I try to do is to read more than I write. This way I keep updated and have more things to write.

There are campaigns like that, that encourage participants to post good quality post that will help to learn from mistakes. If you posted a low quality post then that will be denied by the campain manager. Number 1 may be the most important but joining campaign all 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 are all important especially number 4 that can help you build your account.

Talking on the number of posts to be made, I think that area is a very important one and it could be of help in cutting down poor quality posts, 15 posts could be an unheal task for some,and they would have no choice but to drop numerous one liners to meet up, for others it may not
So before joining, the best thing to do is to go through the rules of the campaign and make sure the post requirements suits you, both based on your knowledge and time you have per day.

You also need to take in consideration if the campaign is going to pay you directly on your desired wallet or will it be deposited on their platforms, i.e. for gambling related, there are campaigns that require you to create an account on their site and they going to deposit in directly on that account.

But remember that sometimes, you need to shoulder the fees if you're going to withdrawal it. So if the campaigns say, they're going to pay you .01 BTC, then expect less because of the withdrawal fees. Not unless the campaign manager can work out with the gambling operators that the fees will be shoulder by the company, like when I was in the FJ campaign before.

Consider the genre you're good at.

It's great to evaluate yourself before evaluating anyone else here. If you know what your specialities are, you're bound to serve high-end dedication and great quality to the party who is willing to pay you to advertise them. Don't just look for which boards they're counting your posts in, also look for yourself that what you're better at being a quality posters. You may also ask people about their opinions or may already know how you're doing if anyone appreciates/degrade you based on their like/dislike (though it's their personal opinion, I believe that in some cases, it's better to improve instead or arguing).

Valuable tips, with a good rating and necessary for each newbie trying to join to signature campaigns.

I can add the following:

  - Read the rules of participation in the campaign: Many managers set special rules for each campaign so you must check it before participating, such as boards where you are not paid, the boards that should be published in the minimum.

   - Check the start date and end of the campaign and the dates of the payments: This forum includes many people and different time zones. Use some extension.

I think I have something informative to contribute here
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I already have a project on that one.
Guide on avoid red tags by supporting already known scam projects (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104083.0)
It is very terrible to keep supporting scam projects, especially when DT members or community raised warning or scam accusation everywhere.

I would make no differentiation between signature campaigns for ICOs, STOs, UTOs, ETOs, IEOs, any other TLA of your choice, exchanges, casinos, mixers, or any other signature campaign. There is no altcoin or token that is worth giving away your identity to a stranger, and there is no bitcoin paying campaign which even comes close to an amount of money which would even make me consider it. The risk is just way too high.

Don't make a good short post longer to meet the minimum post length. Strong short posts are great, even if you don't get paid for it.

No. 7

Where can be found a list of reputable campaign managers?

Here Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4412712.0/)

[2]: Join a campaign you agree with and not just for the payout.
Speaking about  the agreement. I supported what the OP said because have seen a lot of people who actually campaign for gambling company but preach against gambling act which not to be so, you don't bite the fingers that feed you.

That's one well-informative post despite having joined one.

By the way, you might want to add the "List of Signature Campaigns" thread in case there are people looking for them.

This is an information to know the latest/ongoing signature campaign who paid participant with bitcoin

Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0)

Important point, maybe you can mention here to check the signature campaign rules if local boards are accepted. I have seen many members making really great contributions to their local boards buth they have never posted much in the English sections. If they are forced to post the same content in English now due to a signature campaign, the post quality will be affected in a negative way.
When it comes to technical things it's very important to use the right words and explain details. Some Bitcoin or crypto related content is difficult enough on it's own but if you have to explain it in a another language that's even more challenging.
And it's also a benefit for the advertised projects / services to get high quality content in a local language compared to medium-quality posts on page 5 upwards of a thread. The visibility of the local high quality content will be much higher.

Very good read, OP and I think if everyone who is involved in signature campaigns would read your topic (and act accordingly) the number of spam posts would go down a lot.

Unfortunately the most popular Bitcoin signature campaigns don't count posts in the local sections unless the Bounty Manager in charge understands that particular language. So you are right when you say it doesn't really benefit a poster who has quality posts in his local section but unfortunately can't produce the same quality in English. 

Relates to postcount, I remembered that I saw (maybe in Meta) months ago that forum staff states that there are two types of signature bounties:
(1) Pay per week.
(2) Pay per post.
For the second type, there are forum rules that managers of those bounties should restrict total amount of posts per week to be counted as eligible and can get paid by campaigns.
It is mainly to prevent spamming endemic from participants.

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I tried to search where it mentioned, but still not found it for now.
Appreciate help from someone who can give me link.

You mean like this?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1935179.0

Yes, some campaigns pay per post, others a fixed amount per week. Usually 25-30 posts weekly. Now, if you post 70 posts you will still be paid the fixed amount for 25 posts.
If you are a poster who makes 40-50 posts a week, you might earn more from a company that pays per post but take into account the value they per post and multiply that with your usual weekly quota and see what benefits you more.

You pinpointed almost exactly what I want to discuss here.
In 2018, I remembered I read somewhere in the forum (staff posted link to original post) that bounties' managers have rights and should officially restrict maximum posts per week.
However, forum has its maximum limited posts per week (if I remembered exactly).
I need link to that post. Did you know about it?

There you go:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1684035.msg16904309#msg16904309
I don't remember exactly, there is no maximum amount of posts restricted as forum rules.
It totally depends upon campaigns' managers.

Thank you for the compliment, there's a reason why I didn't put that ongoing campaign thread in op, I didn't want interested members to relie on it because before the thread get updated most times with new campaigns, their  available slots most have been filled. Any user interested in joining should spend some time on the service board looking for new campaign still accepting participants

I also noticed old campaigns that pays bonuses, at least in my current campaign. I think Stake has this kind of thing as well, if I'm not mistaken. So if you really wanted to get that bonuses, then you have to post good quality content and not just try to post just for the safe of reaching the minimum. There's also this avatar and personal text bonus every X week as well, so you need to understand when you're going to get it because its different from the rest of the participants (others that joined early that you of course will result in them getting the bonus much earlier.) I also noticed that even high ranking members doesn't understand what the meaning of [FULL] or even [CFNP] - (Closed for new participants) in the signature campaign title threads. They even trying to apply when obviously the campaign is not accepting any at that point.

I can say it will fall under [4]: Join a campaign that encourages quality posting:
or if you want to add something like " Read the rules of participation in the campaign:" by hugeblack.

For easy understanding: Baofeng is saying that you can read the rules on bonuses and read if it is full or closed, basically, he/she meant of those people applying even if the campaign is full. As to bonuses, there are campaigns nowadays that gives an extra bonus if you have accomplished a certain quality post that the campaign manager believes to be exceptional. It will always be on the verdict of the campaign manager as to how they will choose who to give their bonus or position to a certain spot. Just like sending merit to people, sMerit holder chooses what they think a quality post(s).

In addition, I think campaign managers have these unwritten gentleman’s rule about joining one campaign to another campaign. They can skip people who have a signature campaign already as a sign of respect to its campaign manager. Just like in the corporate world, when one of my staff is applying to other banks, HR or Branch Manager always makes a call about a certain staff of yours applying to us and of course we will talk about his or her work attitude. However, that’s just me. As I have said, it will always be on Campaign Manager’s decision. It is just something that I think will be a factor when joining a signature campaign.

Even signatures of high-rank profiles can not profit because of terribly managed campaigns, such a shame. Thank you for the information to consider before joining. What I agree the most is that we need to believe in that project, we should not pick the highest paying one.

I want to use this opportunity to thank all those that contributed to the success of this thread, it just got added to [GUIDES] on Bitcointalk. Index thread (until there is a dedicated subforum?) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4928968.msg50158005#msg50158005/) hopefully the intention of this thread will be achieved as more users get to read it and it enlighten them on factors they should consider before applying to participate in a paid signature campaign.

Probably, these high rank members are just new in bitcoin campaign like they spend their entire existence in the altcoin bounties and when they visit the service section which ( maybe ) unfamiliar with them. So I think OP should also consider posting this so people will be more aware though somehow it's already sounds like it's spoon feeding.

Filipino Version: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132319
Thank you for allowing me to translate it, CryptopreneurBrainboss.

This is apt. That's the hidden hypocrisy that has always ruled this world. The poster didn't even justify his hatred for gambling from a moralistic perspective of self discipline but from the fear of loss. So, if he wins that means gambling should be applauded.

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Nice one having your post translated (I guess that's what you meant there in italics).

Most particpants do not care what they are advertise for as long as they get paid.  Many are wearing gambling signatures but do not gamble themselves.  There are a lot of desperate people here, you can see that whenever a new campaign opens it has many times more participants than open slots.

One more thing to consider, that at some point may/will turn into an important point, is how taxation will apply to your earnings as per your country’s fiscal legislation. It may not seem a concern initially, and may not even be one’s chosen path of action, but somewhere down the line, you may consider converting your earnings to FIAT. At that point you need to have a clear idea of how you are going to do it, and, depending on the chosen option, you’ll need to be able to potentially justify how you made those earnings (keeping records and so forth).
 
As I said, that is a country by country aspect to consider, subject to a range of personal options, and legislation is not all that clear nor immutable. Some legislations may require you (if compliant) to declare tenancy, even if you do not convert to FIAT. This is (potentially) the ugly part ...

I like the factor number 6 that says know the project well before advertising, t means that signature you wear says a lot about you I hope many will learn from this good post of yours,not all bounty projects are worth your time so do research on them to safe your own integrity

Well some forum members don't care about it, a perfect example is the Livecoin signature campaign that some individuals were willing to set aside their ethics and integrity to promote an exchange with valid scam accusation against them. Just wish more users who read this post to stay informed

* Number of participants
*The rank of participants
*Length of the campaign
*Payment structure for different ranks

Recently I discovered that some campaigns in the altcoins session make payments in eth or BTC also.
This is particularly interesting and is something to consider before joining a bounty

When the project is paying bounty hunters with eth or BTC he is actually spending money and investing in his project, not creating money out of nowhere.

Hose are the better bounties to participate , if you can't join a BTC paying campaign.

This is true, and any altcoin bounty that pays that way is almost not going to be a scam project, because if you analyze it, if a project are advertising their coin, but are paying in more established coins like BTC and ETH, it shows they are really ready to develop their coin and are aware it'll take them sometime to actually get somewhere.

But those scam projects would just start off an ICO and at the end of it make money for themselves and give out shitcoins, that way they have not lost anything. Just as you said, altcoin bounties that would pay in BTC is a good sign and it may be good to work for projects like that, if only they will keep to their words.

Great choice of words as your "almost" made the different as projects adverting in BTC or other established cryptocurrency doesn't gaurantee they won't scammed the participants be it via paid signature campaign or bounty campaign. Previously we have recieved reports involving such scenario especially when the campaign isn't managed by a reputed manager and funds weren't escrowed.

Also, most BTC/ETH bounty paying campaign uses the staking allocation method, promising hunters a distribution at the end of the campaign then they scam the participants by not paying. Usually, the bitcoin paying method is just a trick to draw in more patronizers to promote their shitproject (scams) to a larger audience. Just be vigilant, scams are everywhere.

Hello buddy, i have translate this thread to my local board indonesian. Thank you for the permission you have given.  ;)
Look its:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202929.msg53125700#msg53125700

[1]: Build your account before joining a campaign.

I think this is the most important point for a Beginner who want to participate in a paid signature campaign. Beginners should focus on building their profile first. It's a little difficult but not impossible. If you keep posting good quality post in the forum, then your profile will be easily ranked up.


I think this is a very useful thread not only for newbies but also for all rank.

Very good guide for beginners,  thank you for your effort.
In summary,  if you want to join some signature campaign in this forum first ask yourself following questions :
- What I can contribute to this campaign?
- Can I fulfil all campaign conditions?
- Can I trust campaign manager or company owners?
- What about quality of my posts?

Basically,  if you want to join some campaign you first have to prove yourself in this forum.

This is why I always joined a project to which it is being managed by reputable bounty managers. In this forum I only know few because other reputable bounty managers are not handling projects. The preferred bounty I would like to join are those project that pays BTC and lucky I was being accepted in 777coin. I earn and at the same time I learn a lot here by doing replies and making posts in the forum. Aside from that I also get educated on how scammers and hackers work from other users sharing information on their activities in social media like youtube and twitter.

This is why I thank the bounty manager @CryptopreneurBrainboss for the the opportunity in joining 777coin signature campaign. It was a pleasure to be part of the project.

This one should be considered when joining a paid signature campaigns but before that you must build your reputation first. Having negative trust may affect your application and will result for not getting accepted. Make sure you create quality posts for you to get accepted in a campaign. Btw, some of the campaigns do not announce how long will it last.

Not all can predict how long they'd last unless they really see some good ROI promoting here. But the one you're joining has been staying strong after over 80 weeks, that's pretty impressive.

Number 2 and three is what I have done mostly. I have been a participant to the campaign that the op is managing at this time. The minimum post require is 15 and most of my total post count is not much higher than the minimum post count also the campaign have been running until now. All factors are important not just 2 or 3.

This is not always true and i also think it depends on personal preference because if there is high risk then there is possibility of high reward also. There were various successful ICO who had huge success and paid loads of money to their participants. But as i said before there is significant risk as well as reward. it is our responsibility to thoroughly research about the project, that's why i think this thread would be very helpful for inexperienced members.

And i have also been victim of various shit Project which looked good at first but later turned into a scam or failure.
So i would say if anyone wants surety then go for the campaign that pays with the coin like BTC or ETH otherwise go for a good project which may turn into gold later.

Signature Campaign is Distraction to the  Member Rank.
When I first came I was focused, concentrated until I joined a campaign then my focus and concentration was diverted.

So as you are here if  you really want to learn and educate people in the forum, joining of Signature campaign is a distraction to one's learning in the forum. I have tested it and gotten the result. I really suffered, there was no time for me to make research by taking time to read other people threads to learn fast and equipped myself because I was always busy trying to meet up my weekly quota for the campaign and that weigh me down.

Therefore, I am advising those who are eager to join campaign to learn more and equip yourself very well before joining any campaign.

Although, Experience is the Best Teacher.

I wouldn't say that the signature campaign was a distraction that prevented you from learning. How much did you post weekly before you joined a signature campaign? If we are talking about 5-6 posts, it's your frequency of posting that's a problem for most campaigns, not the fact that you are wearing a paid signature. If your average before joining the campaign was 30-35, but it dropped to 10 when you started wearing your signature, it's obvious you started doing something wrong.

Whatever your style of posting was that led you to be accepted in a campaign, it was good enough. If it wasn't, the campaign manager would have selected someone else. All you had to do was maintain that quality and frequency of posting, and even better, improve it. Maybe campaigns with fixed weekly quotas aren't your thing. Perhaps you would have done better if you were paid per post with no weekly minimums. But there aren't that many of those around.     

They should actually be in sync. I don’t see how a campaign gets in the way of reading other people’s posts. In fact, I’d expect the opposite to happen, as posting should likely come as a result of following the thread’s content and trying to add (and not regurgitate) something to it, following the discussion flow. That often leads to reading other sources to better understand and back one’s arguments.

Of course, we do often see clear examples of people who do little more than read the thread’s heading, and post without taking into account the thread’s line of discussion, which is more in line with what you mention. That could be a result of a willingness to dedicate a slim and rather limited amount of time to the forum, but then the issue lies in the (made) available time and spirit.

I understood your plight very well, just that you didn't manage yourself or your time very well. In this forum, my first campaign was Gamdom managed by Yahoo62278 and I joined it when I was a member rank. When I joined the campaign the amount of merits I was receiving reduced. But my post quality did not reduce. Why the merits reduced was because I never had enough time to create topics again. I was replying to topics created by others.
Coping with 25 posts per week was not a problem to me because I was making more than that before I joined campaign. Besides I do not find stress posting in gambling section and it was cool with me.
So, if you plan yourself very well you can achieve your weekly post without stress. 25 ÷ 7 = 3.5. So, 4 posts everyday is not tedious. You can only get affected if you think much of the little weekly tips. Very hard to see a campaign that pays member rank upto $30

I understand you very well, TIME and SPIRIT is needed. But what of someone that has not known anything about bitcoin and also he has not played gamble before. What do you think would happen to such user? He doesn't know what casino and other bets all about. Although he learn from the process but his learning will be minimal because he will be thinking what to comment and post..

That’s another factor I has in mind when commenting before, but I’d place that in the “in-between” terrain. The factor you mention is related to on what boards your campaign counts your posts. Now, as you mention, if you know nothing about gambling, and you are required to post on the gambling boards, then perhaps that is campaign to give a skip. After all, if the campaign’s board sections are not of great interest, and one lacks a prior background (that would be my case), then it would lack that sync that I mentioned before. On the other hand, another person may resort to spending a vast amount of time building the required background as you go during the campaign, although one would certainly be better off with a keenness to the topics.

Again, I wouldn’t place the campaign as the element that is diverting and distracting the person from learning, but rather more the match between the two. In the case you propose, I’d give it a pass, since I have no background on betting, and moreover, no real interest (other than perhaps from the underlying statistics).

@CryptopreneurBrainboss, I want to appreciate this great work you did here, it will be of good benefit to us that are still growing and members who join campaign for payout without considering this factors listed here.

All the factors you listed here are ok and anyone who work with it will be successful in the forum. I will not hesitate to follow factor one, two, four and seven because it says a lot about my reason for joining this forum. Thank you for this power Teaching.

this guide is very educative. thanks so much . most times is all about the reward that we don't see what is demanded of us and what the campaign entails. no. 3 can put people under pressure to meet requirement, that could lead to spamming and plagiarism. the guide will encourage one to go into campaign that meets ones requirement in terms of rank, interest and others.

I tried hard to understand you from the perspective that you felt those in campaigns hardly put in more time in their postings than ordinarily they would do because they've post count to beat/meet. So, they just post to meet weekly quota? Well, except you don't post much weekly I don't see how that can distract your need for research on Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. For instance, if your weekly post count when you aren't in a campaign meets the average 25/weekly post requirements of most campaigns here I don't see how that would be a problem to you being in a campaign and churning out constructive posts.

Hello, Sir!

I like your topic very much because I believe it is very important for us to avoid promoting a scam project. It will definitely result in negative trust.
I have pointed it out in my topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456059.0) but some uneducated people accused my advice of being misleading.

Your topic is very helpful to make everyone aware.  :)

I forgot about this thread. Thanks to whoever bumped this thread. I checked the OP again and now I can relate a recent case where a user was promoting a casino in his signature but he considered the gambling board as a most unethical board. Then some members including me criticized him and then he jumped towards us. LOL. For the same reason, he distrusts users who disagree with him. You can find his post here and the fight he did with prominent forum members https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464289.msg62746592#msg62746592

What I believe is these users just want money. They can promote things for money even if they think it's unethical.

NB: I fixed the image link on my own.

This thread can be best archived and use as reference for newbies coming in new to the forum and staying here, it is important to also notice that not all the newbies are having the intention of joining a signature campaign after their long stay, but it's a very helpful thread for those with the interest of participating in a signature campaign, discovering threads like this is one of the effective ways of using the forum search engine for related assistance needed when learning on the forum, thanks for the bump, i will also make reference to this thread occasional for newbies as the need arises.

These are the people that causes problems for projects. They claim to be wearing signature promoting a campaign when they have no idea what they are wearing. I believe before wearing a signature, one must have the idea of what they are promoting if it is in line with their perspective or ideology so as not to get entangled in the process of promoting a project.as that should be enough reasons to get your
account  flagged in this system.

Some people do not really do the needful before joining a campaign but rather they just hop in for the fact that they have all it takes to apply and other factors and requirements which gives them the privilege to do so and when they enter, they begin to commit blunders.

It is of course good to know and test what you are promoting, but how can your personal perspective/ideology get your account tagged, if at any point you no longer trust the project you are promoting or if it turns out to be a scam, you can basically just take off the signature and avatar, your account would only be tagged if you are promoting a scam project and refuse to take off the signature when it is obvious that the project is a scam, like 1xBit.

You can read the replies of the user I mentioned and see what is their explanation about wearing a casino signature while he believes the gambling board is the most unethical board of Bitcointalk. I thought it was ironic and I expressed my feelings there and later I created another thread to discuss the matter. He believes most Bitcointalk users have low IQ because they said he should not wear a casino signature if they believe gambling board is unethical. That's where the fight begins. I still do believe whoever says selling weed is unethical but they promote weed selling because they get paid for it, they do not have morals.

I don't seem to agree with you on this. This is pure advertisement that is understood in the cooperate world. There is always a disclaimer that goes with every product and services and that exonerate the promoters of such products and services as their job is limited to creating the awareness/publicity with the burden of authentication and verification on the targeted users and the regulators.

For alcoholic drinks, you will see statements like "drink responsibly", "not for sale to children under 18 years". Even casinos, drugs and others have their caveats.  Have you seen any radio or television station being punished for allowing adverts of substances or foods that are later banned or prohibited? It does not happen as the burden of authentication and approval is with the users and regulators.

Therefore, signature campaigns are no exception because they are also advertisement.

I think signature campaigns should move in the direction of what Icopress has been doing which is commendable, if you are a participant of the campaign you need to give a review of the product being advertised so that one doesn't speak from a point of no experience or trying to feed others what you can't eat yourself and avoids selling contradicting messages.

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As much as you have a valid point when it comes to cooperate marketing and the alike, unfortunately the only reason these disclaimers are put out there is for all to see and to protect themselves from any legal battles that can come from consumers after use & something goes wrong.. which is different when compared to our crypto products and services as self awareness of crypto products is advised via DYOR, besides they say ignorance is no excuse.

In the real world disclaimers are used to protect a company directly using its products to convey the message,but with our model of signatures, each user acts an an independent agency contracted to be engaged in the marketing side of a business...tbh there is a difference between the two.

Your point of view is very much clear and I understand the fact that wearing a signature is part of the advertising measures here to promoting a project to the audience in gaining more publicity and traffic. You would agree with me that when one is promoting or doing advert, at least they should have clues of what they are promoting and if you would agree with me, this platform is quite different from others and as such the signature and avatar worn is a trademark each promoter wears till the phase of promotion is over.  I have come across posts made by promoters  here and they are being queried by members and going as far as telling them that they would call the attention of their campaign manager to such post if truly they know  what they are  doing coupled with the fact that they are wearing signature and avatar of a project similar to what they are talking against. So you can see where my point is coming from.

Well, I do not really see much divergence between what I said with your position on this matter because the sometimes-unwritten DYOR caveat of the crypto space is akin to the various disclaimers in conventional advertisements. 

I understand the difference quite well and there is no denying the fact that it is not logical to punish those who wear signature of a company that turn out to be scam in the future. I have seen posts of one or two casinos accused of scam in the gambling section. Those were companies that ran signature campaigns and were promoted by users of this forum. Will it be fine to punish the users that wore the signature of those companies? Your guess is as good as mine.

Nevertheless, this does not mean I am suggesting we become complacent in choosing the products and services to promote. Even human conscience requires we also do well to check the authenticity of what we promote for the sake of our reputation and general good of the public.

The factors under consideration is something I am yet to understand, but I can get that I need to do more in terms of putting in a consistent and more regular effort in order to be even considered to join a signature campaign.

Moreso, I don't think morals has got to do with anything as regards the kind of signature campaign an individual decides to campaign for. Opportunities are created where such writing is demanded. I better put this well and say we create the kind of opportunities we get and get to accept. Else, why bother about growing in rank and don't do anything else to earn passively with the effort? It's basically meaningless.

Yes, it's sooo funny, I've made a new version of it.
Gambling shitposter 2.0:

https://www.talkimg.com/images/2023/10/18/R7Vuw.png
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5464289.msg62746592#msg62746592

Maybe CryptopreneuerBrainboss can add it to his OP, it's really a gem.
Hopefully, some more people will read it that joining a campaign is also requiring a bit of research, what we are advertising there. If we don't like it, we should not advertise it. Simple as that.  :)
It's so nuts that it happened once, but now, it has happened twice.
What a clown.  :D :D :D :D

Thank you for making the version 2.0



Now it's an Idle of shit posters!
Everyone reading the OP will see him and his fellows will be proud of him. But don't forget that we are low IQ people because we do not agree that you should not promote something that we do not think is ethical. Some people even supported him when I created a thread to discuss this matter which gives him some strength to fightback against other prominent members.

@1miau a very good catch and i believe that there are even more signature campaign participants who actually for what they advertise here in the forum, actually in real life would have nothing to do. but these users are then only blinded by dollar Bitcoin signs and if they then emotionally write a post, then this dan the truth points out (as in the case of @BenCodie)

@CryptopreneuerBrainboss a very interesting topic and as i have seen there are already two translations with the indonesian and filipino. i have now published this thread in the AOBT thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5442314.0) and asked that all aobt members translate it then in the respective languages

Hey Buddy, thanks for the shoutout

Just to clear up some infactual information on your authoritative signature campaign "bible" here.

Firstly:
- I know how gambling works
- Being in a gambling campaign despite the fact that gambling exploits people and the fact that a lot of the casinos on the forum operate unethically has not effected my post quality

There's no reason why I as an individual should have any different level of opportunity than anyone else in the forum, just for recognizing the facts about gambling and the gambling board here.

I've said it before and I've said it again as well...better in my.pocket than some gamblers pocket. I'll happily take the coins from the campaigns each week and NOT give it back to the casinos, as others might, and put the coins toward better places (any place is better than to a casino).

I've said this before as well:

Signature campaigns are not leasing your soul, they are leasing some pixels on the internet.

I don't like Marmite but if there was a signature campaign offering to pay me to put a Marmite ad in my signature, does that mean I am not allowed to take that opportunity because I don't like Marmite? Think before you write...just as I do in every post that I make, contrary to what you say.

This thread is a very helpful tool for members like me who are yet to get into any signature campaigns, because it's enlightenments about factors to consider before applying for a campaign that'll be suitable for the member is very important. Before now I didn't know that we have questionable campaigns in the forum, I'd always had the impression that every signature campaigns here are reputable and have integrity. Thanks to this thread, I know better now and won't fall victim when i want to join one.  It serves as a guide for members to know the boards where they're most active before choosing a campaign to join.

Like you pointed out in number 2, it's important to join a campaign that you agree with their business ideology, not just for their payout. Or at least try and learn more about them  before joining, so there'll be a synergy between you and their kind of business. Personally I'm not into gambling, but sometimes going into the gambling boards and reading comments have made me to understand about it, now I can join in interesting discussions there. So I can now safely apply in a campaign that requires post counts in gambling, not because of their payouts but because I'm now comfortable posting in that section.

um, I don't understand what you are explaining here, no one knows how long a campaign will run, not even bounty managers, on average bounty managers always state that at the beginning of the campaign topics they handle.


if you don't like mixers why do you join the mixer signature campaign and if you don't like gambling why do you join the gambling signature campaign, this is a funny thing that appears quite often on forums lol, you can't just want payment money from a campaign but not supporting their platform, that's unethical.

A very good advice. When I was not promoting any signature campaign, I was very selective of the boards I will post. If the conversation isn't interesting, I will not join.
But now, for the sake of completing post quota, I sometimes join conversations not that interesting to me.

Many people are just victim of this. Maybe we see it as merely wearing signature as the activities of the projects doesn't concern us.

The higher the post, the bigger the pay. People doesn't consider this again.

I didn't consider this and landed in a campaign I need to post much in gambling boards.

I'm glad I was able to help, I created this thread when I was at the full/Snr member level (can't remember exactly but it was a long time again as seen from the date of thread creation).this thread was created to enlightening members on things they should look out for before joining a campaign and as you can see it was a community effort as all those that contributed to the thread were given credit. The forum is more fun and entertaining when you're been paid for what you enjoy doing already and not been force to engage on the forum for payout. You don't have to enroll in all campaign you come across, choose the one that best sorts you and appy for participation


Buddy no hard feelings here, your post was pointed out to me by 1miau and it serve as a perfect example to replace an old version of what my point was trying to prove. I don't have an issue with you and if you feel that way about this thread no problem but just don't speak bad against something and still promoting it and expect us to keep a blind eye. Is just like someone speaking bad against mixer yet advertising one on the forum. Gambling isn't all bad but when you abuse it that's when it gets dangerous. We have other campaign that you can promote and besides, stealing from a thief doesn't make you a righteous person.


One thing about every information posted on the forum is that, it has it audiences, and I'm glad you're one of them but I'll advice you shouldn't engage in board that aren't of your interest for campaigns sake. You can join campaign that doesn't mandate you to write on specific boards or join conversations that aren't of your interest. Campaigns you join should reward you for your regular engagement on the forum and not turn you into a spammer or generic poster. Most users that started well on the forum left that path because of the campaigns they joined, they start posting for payout and it begins to weaken their post quality.

You got it, Brain boss.
But some of us think even though we know it was stolen from someone else and we think stealing is bad, we will happily promote them and take the share because If we don't take it, some other thief will take the opportunity. Now, if you oppose our idea, I will blame you as a low IQ guy and probably distrust you as well. That's what actually happened to me when I spoke against his point of view. He got some support from the community too.

Evaluating the maximum post required every week is very important because sometimes due to the pressure of trying to meet up to the maximum post per week in order to receive higher pay might make one to make shitpost, low quality posts, or even go off topics. So it is advisable to join campaign that give you time to calculate and make informative and quality posts rather than make shitpost just because you want to meet up the target.

I think that your guideline is ultimately pointless and a lot of what I had said has been completely ignored.

I'll use the Marmite example again.

Let's say that I don't like marmite, how it is made or it's ingredients, and yet, I can still talk about Marmite constructively (and objectively if I I wanted to) and was offered to be paid by Marmite to advertise Marmite in my signature.

Does taking this advertising opportunity really mean that I am compromising myself just to take an opportunity to lease digital space in my forum signature?

Of course, gambling has higher ethical and moral problems than Marmite. However, if I am able to go to that board and post constructively and objectively, and have a different opinion than just "yay I love gambling and I gamble my signature earnings to Stake.com every week" (as is how a lot of the gambling board members are there) then is that not a good thing?

The consequence of your guideline and using me as an example of this false label of hypocrisy is that you have no one who is incentivized to think objectively and against the unhealthy gambling nature in that board. Your guideline is trying to make all campaign participants to be proponents with no subjective/objective thinking toward Gambling, and exclude those who think differently.

Is that the agenda you want to push?

You're promoting a gambling site through your signature which means you have to be writing on the gambling board, there's a request for a merit source for the board that'll obviously increase the post quality of the board as member try to write better to increase their chances of been merited but no, you opposed because you enjoy the spam going on on the board as it helps you complete your post count and gets you paid with the excuse that you want to take the money the casinos for yourself (that it's better with you than with them). This just goes to show your true nature, you say the casino are scamming the gamblers then why don't you fight against that by not having anything to do with the gambling sites but guess you can't do without the signature payouts which just makes you a hypocrite and a perfect example to the second point of this thread.

This might be the last respond you get from me because I can see you aren't adding any valuable discussion to this thread and I won't do you the honors of giving you more reason to fish for your weekly post on this thread. People found this thread useful that's why they resurrected it, I don't know who did that but thank you for that. Again I said you mightn't find the thread valuable to you but your stupidity can't be forced on others. We have those that'll find the thread useful and those are the targeted audience not a hypocrite just chasing after money without any moral values.

Saying that I spam on the board is very far from the truth. I do not spam in that board, I advocate against casinos and their usage because I am for the people, not for the casinos. Does that mean my posts are spam? Absolutely not. Does that mean all of my posts are advocating against gambling/casinos? Absolutely not. I post in topics that interest me there, period.

Also, whether a merit source is there or not will make no difference to whether I post there or not. If I was a spammer, Little Mouse and Royse777 wouldn't allow me into their campaigns. The truth is, my posts are if anything of higher quality than majority of the other posts in that board.

I opposed to the merit source idea because I believe that it will increase spam there. The incentives provided by casinos already causes inflation of posting in that board, and the addition of merit sources would only increase the incentive to post there....thus, more spam. Casinos and people like you may like the idea, but neither think of the negatives, corruption and poor quality that already exists, and how that might get worse. Who is really blinded by the dollars?

I also already said to you multiple times in multiple ways about having an advertisement in my signature. Just because I don't like the gambling business, doesn't mean I won't take their money for having an advertisement in my signature. Doesn't mean I am a hypocrite either. Hypocrisy would be if I was in my position but then personally endorsed casinos with my words and my posts. That would be hypocrisy. However, signatures are not personal endorsements and never will be. M

My only prerequisite before advertising is that they are not a scam, which I rely on my own due diligence and the campaign managers to ensure. I trust Little Mouse and Royse777 when it comes to this and they are generally the campaign managers that I prefer to work with. They also understand where I stand and why they allow me to join their campaigns, even if they're gambling related. Why? Because overall, I am a high quality poster. I am genuinely interested in being on this forum, I like to converse, and ultimately, I add value to threads. If that was not the case, I would struggle to be accepted into a campaign. That's not a brag, that's reality.

You might think I am not adding value to this thread, I think you are wrong...By you mentioning me, I have looked at you under a microscope...the only reason I am here is because you are creating rules when you have no authority to do so, and mislabeling people with rules and guidelines like the one involving me, which is inaccurate...and of course, now that I've pointed out some things like thinking you have the authority to create global signature campaign guidelines (that are more than just assistance for beginners), and potentially having an agenda, you have decided to not only reply to a lot of my previous post, but claim it adds no value.

I ask you again to reconsider your usage of my profile in the OP of your thread, as it is inaccurate (again, unless your agenda is to disqualify objective thinkers against gambling from signature campaigns by labeling them as hypocrites)

Everything is said about the issue.
You are wearing gambling signature and are getting paid for that, while you are actively advocating against gambling. So, why are you wearing that signature if you don't like gambling at all but you are still advertising for it in your signature? You are wearing the signature just to get some cheap sats for free!


Wearing a paid signature is a personal endorsement, it's directly appearing next to your forum name.
And why should a gambling site even pay for your anti-gambling posts? You wouldn't pay for an ad on TV as well, where it says "our product is shit, please don't buy".  ::)


It's not inaccurate, it's a perfect example for the point "Join a campaign you agree with and not just for the payout."
Heck, it couldn't get more accurate.  :D :D

And if you really want to keep looking butthurt like you are looking currently, please complain to me, as I'm the one who created the picture.
Your attacking of CryptopreneurBrainboss here just for doing his job is beyond hypocritical.

If you don't like the picture, you should have thought twice before typing such nonsese while wearing a gambling signature.  ::)

I agree with you there that you are not a spammer nor a shit poster. You engage in conversation with genuine interest which is why you are able to write in detail. Your posts are constructive. They hired you because of their professionalism. I can guarantee you that even if their known enemies apply in their signature campaign but that user writes good posts, those campaign managers probably accept them because of their professionalism. The problem is in your mind. You are promoting gambling through your signature space while you believe it's unethical. Another point is you cannot take criticism. You jump towards others who write against your point of view.

Edit after initial reply

It seems that you both genuinely think that signatures are personal endorsements. I genuinely think that they are paid advertisements and should not be perceived as personal endorsements (as not ad should, imo). We will never settle this debate until we get more opinions.

So I made this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5471733.0). If you choose to go there and share your opinion, please do not include the drama in this thread.

If I am wrong, and the community agrees that signatures are to be taken as personal endorsements by readers, and not paid advertisement, with good reasoning and resounding consensus, I will apologize for my posts, remove my signature and join a non-gambling campaign that I am comfortable with personally endorsing.

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The most important part of my response


I don't disagree with coins.game, I don't agree with them either as they are a casino. I am neutral. IF coins.game started scamming users or doing wrong by them, then I would disagree with them and then, I would leave the campaign as I would not agree with them. Is that not acceptable? (You don't have to answer any of this reply but I want you to at least answer this question).

The majority of people join signature campaigns for the payout, otherwise, do you think forum signatures would look the same tomorrow if all payouts no longer paid any btc? No, they would promote things that either deliver their personal message, or would personally benefit them...not provide free advertising to some profit machine like a casino or mixer.

Otherwise, what you are saying is that in order to join a campaign, you must:
- Have no motivation about the BTC you are being rewarded
- Join because they like the project only
- Promote in the interests of the project EVEN if it is not in line with their opinions

You are also saying that:
- People who aren't speaking in the interests of the campaign are hypocrites
- People who voice an opinion that against the interests of the campaign industry are hypocrites

If there were actually official guidelines that enforced your ideology, then this would manipulate how people post, it would create influence over people via signature campaign, and it would destroy the forum.

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The rest of my responses


I disagree with that completely. Please provide a reference where it states officially that a signature is a personal endorsement.


If you actually bothered to look at my posts, I do not consistently post about "anti-gambling" in the gambling board/I do not go around screaming "gambling is bad, don't do it" to people, but I do not go around saying "gambling is good, go ahead and do it" either. I warn of the dangers, I make my position clear (more on the "don't gamble" side than "gamble" side) and I only criticize casinos if they have done something unethical toward players, which unfortunately, is a lot of the time. If my post doesn't fit into the latter descriptions, then I am just participating in conversation like normal. I don't have to be a gambler to participate in conversation, just like I don't have to be a developer to post in the technical discussions board. If campaign sponsors had a problem with my posts, I'd have been kicked out of campaigns long ago.

A campaign manager is paying me because my posts are naturally of good quality and I probably generate traffic for whatever is in my signature. That's why I get paid. It's a fair deal. I go about my activity here as normal, and get paid because my activity has value. That's the same for everyone.

Also, are you saying that people are wearing signatures because they love and believe in the project they are promoting? If you took the money away from the signature campaign today, I'd bet that at least 90% of people will leave their campaigns or change it to an affiliate ad of some sort. Your rationale here is totally invalid, to put it most politely.


I see it as that I'm defending my honor, I have a right to do that and I am sure others would do the same. Sure though, call me butthurt.

Also I'm not attacking brainboss either, I am responding to his decision and telling him my side of things since clearly, he is not aware of how I look at things. If he is ignorant to that purposefully then of course I'm going to ask him things like, "do you have an agenda?"...because why else would someone blatantly ignore good reasoning? I have a right to complain to him as you did not insert that image into the thread, he did.


Hey, thank you for the honesty in your post. You are partially right, I like to think of it as continuing the conversation by expanding on my viewpoint. I can breakdown and articulate my rationale/viewpoint on a nano level, so I always have something to reply, whether it be explaining where I am coming from or disagreeing. I won't say that I always do that though, I do see the other side if it makes sense on a logical and rational level.

You are definitely NOT neutral, when writing such a statement:

View this as an example.

It could not get any clearer...


Shitposting for a few bucks is a different issue....


This is not what I or anyone else here said.
No need for that strawman...
We can wear a legitimate campaign and still be happy to get some sats. But we should not wear any shady signature just to earn a few bucks.

No need to like the project, but we should not oppose it fundamentally (like you did).

That's coming close to what people have written here.

Wrong, I've said that when wearing a signature campaign, we should not oppose it fundamentally.

Wrong again...
People wearing a signature campaign, should not oppose it fundamentally. Otherwise, they are hypocrites.

Misguided clowns like you are destroying the forum whith your nonsense sigspam:

View this as an example.

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The brand name appears directly right to your forum name and your forum profile. Of course it's an endorsement and we should select the campaigns carefully.
High paying campaign are selecting the most reputable forum members for a reason.
What anyone else does, when coming over our signatures is not our issue.
But we, as a participant in that campaign, should always be able to get behind the advertised project. Otherwise, we should not support it.


Then, maybe a gambling signature is not suited for you...
Why advertising it then, if you think, it's harmful for other people?
Your advertisements are even leading to damage according to your previous statements.
You are just hypocritical, nothing else.
This is so nuts, if we think about your hate against gambling, while your are happily advertising it in your signature to gain a few bucks.  ::)

If you don't like gambling and you are opposing it, fine. But then, don't wear a paid gambling signature...  ::)


No one said that...
Wearing a signature just means that we can get behind that project and would use it.
No need to be in love with the project.
Your way of twisting words is so massively misleading.  ::)


They way you are twisting our words here, saying things, no one has ever said in the topic and other strange conclusions are just pointless.
Of course people will point out, that your comment about gambling while wearing a gambling signature, is not how this works.

If you don't like gambling, no need to join a paid signature campaign about gambling.
Easy as that...

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Wearing a signature IS a personal endorsement, as said before.

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They way you are asking the question is already completely misleading because no one here ever said by wearing a signature "The wearer encourages you to use the advertised service".
Wearing a signature doesn't mean to "encourage anyone to use the advertised service".
Wearing a signature just means that a participant agrees, that the service is legitimate to use.
Wearing a signature just means that a participant could say: "Yes, I can get behing using that service". What any viewer of this possible signature does, is completely their choice.

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And we won't settle this debate as well, when you are asking completely misleading questions.  ::)
You are taking this purposefully out of context to get your preferred answer...

Sorry for the delay translating the topic (you have to prioritize day-to-day obligations, although it is no excuse).

I have posted it (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5472091.0) in the "Beginngers & Help" section of the Spanish board: lately we have seen a rise of Spanish speaker newbies there who are interested in joining signature campaigns, and I'm sure that these guidelines will be very beneficial for them (those who read them, at least).

Please, consider notifying us (AoBT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5442314.0)) every time major changes are done in the OP, so we can update our respective translations. Keep up!

Hey CryptopreneurBrainboss, here is the Portuguese Version https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5483476.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5483476.0)
Thank you so much for allowing me to translate it  :)

I have read this thread before, But I don't remember If I have ever commented on this topic. I agree with everything you have shared but look at this point. I always considered stake participants as spammers because they could write more than ten posts a day without adding any value to this forum and all they write on gambling boards. There was a time when I also wrote ten posts a day but not on the gambling boards. I used to write in the several boards of the forum.

Now the reason I have quoted this part, I believe two of your campaigns contradict this point. I don't want to mention the campaign name but those campaigns allow users to write up to 60 posts and they are going to get paid for all those posts. More importantly, Tier E encourages spam in the forum. You may have a different point of view. But, I believe this is also a fact.

Anyway, I have started working on translating this thread for my locals. I hope I will finish the translation soon.

Let me start from here because I'll be looking forward to your translation, hoping to see it soon.


I believe writing 10 posts per day shouldn't be considered spamming provided what you're writing is adding value to the thread you're discussing on and the the forum in general. I write 10 post part day very often and I won't consider them spamming irrespective or them being on the gambling board (which I used to do before but can't remember when last I wrote there). There are users writing quality post on the gambling board and not all members there are spamming so we shouldn't be generalising although there are high chances of seeing spammers on the board because it's very easy to communicate over there.


I was surprised nobody has questions this part but I'm glad you did. As I said earlier 10 post per day on the forum isn't spam and many members are doing that frequently including myself. 10*6 that's 60 and that's the maximum required for my campaigns. Is that high yes but you're not mandated to write up to that amount. Many campaigns has paid upto 50 posts including the great chipmixer campaign and we didn't discredit the campaign because they didn't mandate the participants to write 50 posts and I'm also not mandating my participatants to write that. A look at the both spreadsheet and you'll see that many participants aren't writing the maximum. Everybody is doing the best they can and as for spamming the forum, alot of users has been removed from the campaign and posts also getting denied, this isn't a complete solution but whoever is spamming and get reported gets an automatic removal. Getting a neutral  (not even a red) also gets you removed for spamming.

PS: If participating in my campaigns is going to turn you into a spammer avoid them and apply for other campaigns with less weekly quota.

Usually, I take a little longer than average time to complete the translations because I don't want to feel pressured. Moreover, I am too busy with my new start-up and I am doing the translations only when I have some free time.

Let's get back to your post. I understand your whole point. I also agree that writing 10 posts a day isn't spamming. But, when you see a particular campaign participants doing it for ages and you do not see those participants out of some specific boards, you might have a negative thought about them and I don't think everyone will disagree with me about it.

Yeah, I have noticed that you have removed some participants for spamming. One of my local was removed from one of your campaign due to a neutral feedback and that is something I should appreciate. If campaign managers act accordingly like this one, the forum would have less spammy threads and posts.

Hey Brain Boss.

Here is the translation of this topic in "Bangla" language. Can you please update OP.

Post link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=631891.msg63633807#msg63633807

Learn Bitcoin was originally supposed to do this translation but he is kind of busy and later asked me to do it. It's been reviewed by Gazeta. I am also a backup translator for Bangla language at AOBT. Just letting you know.

Cheers,
DS :)

Hey dear CryptopreneurBrainboss!

Hope you are doing well

I am the member of ABOT ( The Alliance of Bitcointalk Translators)

I have completed translation of your very useful topic in Arabic language. Can you Please update Translation in OP?

Translation Link: [الدليل] العوامل التي يجب مراعاتها قبل الانضمام إلى حملات التوقيع المدفوعة. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5484564.msg63635387#msg63635387)

Have a good day  :)

Nalain420 ~

All what you have listed is actually true. Especially knowing the reputation of the campaign you are advertising here because it could lead to receiving red trust. Because you are speaking good of a campaign that is not as good as you call it .

Another point I also love is to check the the maximum post per week before joining the campaign otherwise you might end up joining a campaign that will make you post out of point do to completing of post count. And also lastly to making sure we know what we are about to promote. Because according to the image of the user above, shows that the owner of that account is not promoting gambling rather talking out of point because he doesn't like gambling but was just fortunate to work with a gambling campaign.

Thank you for completing the translation dear DS. As I told you and Gazeta, I was busy with my business. I had to take a short break from the forum and online platforms to pay full attention to my business. As I posted in our local thread, this is an important thread that should be available on various local boards so it reaches to maximum number of users.

Even though there are some high-ranked members and they have spent a lot of time on this forum, still they get confused when it comes to ethics and following some basic things. I just noticed a thread in the Meta board where this thread was mentioned. This could be another example why people should read this thread.

It is important that you know this, joining any campaign is at your own risk for them to pay you or not, and you will receive a tag because you're contributing to the promotion of a fictious site, though the forum doesn't moderate scam, but the tag members will leave on you will help any future dealings you may engage into with other members have a clue about your past deals and promotions.


Its very important to read the rules and regulation under the campaign OP thread on the first page, many will first jump into applying before taking time to read what is in their campaign rules which is wrong.

One fact I like is that every member here uses a psuedonym as names they go by and even if they join any signature campaigns, the comments from previous posts shouldn't be much of a worry to the individual when joining a new campaign, unless they joined campaigns or participated in boards discussion that has little to boost their reputation.

Morals get to be tested from what I have read too and if someone is against gambling and does campaign for a gambling site, that makes them accomplice to gambling too.
Still, shouldn't joining signature campaigns here, be more of a job description rather than many members referring to it in a mocking way, as though those of whom it benefits aren't doing it more for the pay than for the love ?

I totally agree with you, this factor is a very important one to consider before joining a campaign. I know somehow who engaged in a campaign and the campaign requires him to make at least 5 post from the gambling section, and he is not much of a sport person but he engaged in the post because of the money to be paid out in the campaign. He ends up making a very low quality post in the gambling section just to meet up with the post count, if the campaign had require him to post maybe 2times from the gambling section he would have at least been able to come up with a better quality post than that of 5.