[Guide] Factors to consider before joining paid signature campaigns.

[chirannew22]

* Number of participants
*The rank of participants
*Length of the campaign
*Payment structure for different ranks

[bitmover]

Recently I discovered that some campaigns in the altcoins session make payments in eth or BTC also.
This is particularly interesting and is something to consider before joining a bounty

When the project is paying bounty hunters with eth or BTC he is actually spending money and investing in his project, not creating money out of nowhere.

Hose are the better bounties to participate , if you can't join a BTC paying campaign.

[Coyster]

When the project is paying bounty hunters with eth or BTC he is actually spending money and investing in his project, not creating money out of nowhere.

This is true, and any altcoin bounty that pays that way is almost not going to be a scam project, because if you analyze it, if a project are advertising their coin, but are paying in more established coins like BTC and ETH, it shows they are really ready to develop their coin and are aware it'll take them sometime to actually get somewhere.

But those scam projects would just start off an ICO and at the end of it make money for themselves and give out shitcoins, that way they have not lost anything. Just as you said, altcoin bounties that would pay in BTC is a good sign and it may be good to work for projects like that, if only they will keep to their words.

[CryptopreneurBrainboss]

When the project is paying bounty hunters with eth or BTC he is actually spending money and investing in his project, not creating money out of nowhere.

This is true, and any altcoin bounty that pays that way is almost not going to be a scam project, because if you analyze it, if a project are advertising their coin, but are paying in more established coins like BTC and ETH, it shows they are really ready to develop their coin and are aware it'll take them sometime to actually get somewhere.

Great choice of words as your "almost" made the different as projects adverting in BTC or other established cryptocurrency doesn't gaurantee they won't scammed the participants be it via paid signature campaign or bounty campaign. Previously we have recieved reports involving such scenario especially when the campaign isn't managed by a reputed manager and funds weren't escrowed.

Also, most BTC/ETH bounty paying campaign uses the staking allocation method, promising hunters a distribution at the end of the campaign then they scam the participants by not paying. Usually, the bitcoin paying method is just a trick to draw in more patronizers to promote their shitproject (scams) to a larger audience. Just be vigilant, scams are everywhere.

[skarais]

Hello buddy, i have translate this thread to my local board indonesian. Thank you for the permission you have given. 
Look its:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202929.msg53125700#msg53125700

[Cadaver20]

[1]: Build your account before joining a campaign.

I think this is the most important point for a Beginner who want to participate in a paid signature campaign. Beginners should focus on building their profile first. It's a little difficult but not impossible. If you keep posting good quality post in the forum, then your profile will be easily ranked up.

Just a friendly bump for newbies.

I think this is a very useful thread not only for newbies but also for all rank.

[Daniel91]

Very good guide for beginners,  thank you for your effort.
In summary,  if you want to join some signature campaign in this forum first ask yourself following questions :
- What I can contribute to this campaign?
- Can I fulfil all campaign conditions?
- Can I trust campaign manager or company owners?
- What about quality of my posts?

Basically,  if you want to join some campaign you first have to prove yourself in this forum.

[jademaxsuy]

Great choice of words as your "almost" made the different as projects adverting in BTC or other established cryptocurrency doesn't gaurantee they won't scammed the participants be it via paid signature campaign or bounty campaign. Previously we have recieved reports involving such scenario especially when the campaign isn't managed by a reputed manager and funds weren't escrowed.

Also, most BTC/ETH bounty paying campaign uses the staking allocation method, promising hunters a distribution at the end of the campaign then they scam the participants by not paying. Usually, the bitcoin paying method is just a trick to draw in more patronizers to promote their shitproject (scams) to a larger audience. Just be vigilant, scams are everywhere.

This is why I always joined a project to which it is being managed by reputable bounty managers. In this forum I only know few because other reputable bounty managers are not handling projects. The preferred bounty I would like to join are those project that pays BTC and lucky I was being accepted in 777coin. I earn and at the same time I learn a lot here by doing replies and making posts in the forum. Aside from that I also get educated on how scammers and hackers work from other users sharing information on their activities in social media like youtube and twitter.

This is why I thank the bounty manager @CryptopreneurBrainboss for the the opportunity in joining 777coin signature campaign. It was a pleasure to be part of the project.

[Shimmiry]

* Number of participants
*The rank of participants
*Length of the campaign
*Payment structure for different ranks

This one should be considered when joining a paid signature campaigns but before that you must build your reputation first. Having negative trust may affect your application and will result for not getting accepted. Make sure you create quality posts for you to get accepted in a campaign. Btw, some of the campaigns do not announce how long will it last.

[UserU]

Btw, some of the campaigns do not announce how long will it last.

Not all can predict how long they'd last unless they really see some good ROI promoting here. But the one you're joining has been staying strong after over 80 weeks, that's pretty impressive.

[nakamura12]

Number 2 and three is what I have done mostly. I have been a participant to the campaign that the op is managing at this time. The minimum post require is 15 and most of my total post count is not much higher than the minimum post count also the campaign have been running until now. All factors are important not just 2 or 3.

[Shishir99]

When the project is paying bounty hunters with eth or BTC he is actually spending money and investing in his project, not creating money out of nowhere.

This is true, and any altcoin bounty that pays that way is almost not going to be a scam project, because if you analyze it, if a project are advertising their coin, but are paying in more established coins like BTC and ETH, it shows they are really ready to develop their coin and are aware it'll take them sometime to actually get somewhere.

But those scam projects would just start off an ICO and at the end of it make money for themselves and give out shitcoins, that way they have not lost anything. Just as you said, altcoin bounties that would pay in BTC is a good sign and it may be good to work for projects like that, if only they will keep to their words.

This is not always true and i also think it depends on personal preference because if there is high risk then there is possibility of high reward also. There were various successful ICO who had huge success and paid loads of money to their participants. But as i said before there is significant risk as well as reward. it is our responsibility to thoroughly research about the project, that's why i think this thread would be very helpful for inexperienced members.

And i have also been victim of various shit Project which looked good at first but later turned into a scam or failure.
So i would say if anyone wants surety then go for the campaign that pays with the coin like BTC or ETH otherwise go for a good project which may turn into gold later.

[Agbe]

Signature Campaign is Distraction to the  Member Rank.
When I first came I was focused, concentrated until I joined a campaign then my focus and concentration was diverted.

So as you are here if  you really want to learn and educate people in the forum, joining of Signature campaign is a distraction to one's learning in the forum. I have tested it and gotten the result. I really suffered, there was no time for me to make research by taking time to read other people threads to learn fast and equipped myself because I was always busy trying to meet up my weekly quota for the campaign and that weigh me down.

Therefore, I am advising those who are eager to join campaign to learn more and equip yourself very well before joining any campaign.

Although, Experience is the Best Teacher.

[Pmalek]

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I wouldn't say that the signature campaign was a distraction that prevented you from learning. How much did you post weekly before you joined a signature campaign? If we are talking about 5-6 posts, it's your frequency of posting that's a problem for most campaigns, not the fact that you are wearing a paid signature. If your average before joining the campaign was 30-35, but it dropped to 10 when you started wearing your signature, it's obvious you started doing something wrong.

Whatever your style of posting was that led you to be accepted in a campaign, it was good enough. If it wasn't, the campaign manager would have selected someone else. All you had to do was maintain that quality and frequency of posting, and even better, improve it. Maybe campaigns with fixed weekly quotas aren't your thing. Perhaps you would have done better if you were paid per post with no weekly minimums. But there aren't that many of those around.     

[DdmrDdmr]

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They should actually be in sync. I don’t see how a campaign gets in the way of reading other people’s posts. In fact, I’d expect the opposite to happen, as posting should likely come as a result of following the thread’s content and trying to add (and not regurgitate) something to it, following the discussion flow. That often leads to reading other sources to better understand and back one’s arguments.

Of course, we do often see clear examples of people who do little more than read the thread’s heading, and post without taking into account the thread’s line of discussion, which is more in line with what you mention. That could be a result of a willingness to dedicate a slim and rather limited amount of time to the forum, but then the issue lies in the (made) available time and spirit.

[uchegod-21]

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I understood your plight very well, just that you didn't manage yourself or your time very well. In this forum, my first campaign was Gamdom managed by Yahoo62278 and I joined it when I was a member rank. When I joined the campaign the amount of merits I was receiving reduced. But my post quality did not reduce. Why the merits reduced was because I never had enough time to create topics again. I was replying to topics created by others.
Coping with 25 posts per week was not a problem to me because I was making more than that before I joined campaign. Besides I do not find stress posting in gambling section and it was cool with me.
So, if you plan yourself very well you can achieve your weekly post without stress. 25 ÷ 7 = 3.5. So, 4 posts everyday is not tedious. You can only get affected if you think much of the little weekly tips. Very hard to see a campaign that pays member rank upto $30

[Agbe]

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They should actually be in sync. I don’t see how a campaign gets in the way of reading other people’s posts. In fact, I’d expect the opposite to happen, as posting should likely come as a result of following the thread’s content and trying to add (and not regurgitate) something to it, following the discussion flow. That often leads to reading other sources to better understand and back one’s arguments.

Of course, we do often see clear examples of people who do little more than read the thread’s heading, and post without taking into account the thread’s line of discussion, which is more in line with what you mention. That could be a result of a willingness to dedicate a slim and rather limited amount of time to the forum, but then the issue lies in the (made) available time and spirit.

I understand you very well, TIME and SPIRIT is needed. But what of someone that has not known anything about bitcoin and also he has not played gamble before. What do you think would happen to such user? He doesn't know what casino and other bets all about. Although he learn from the process but his learning will be minimal because he will be thinking what to comment and post..

[DdmrDdmr]

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That’s another factor I has in mind when commenting before, but I’d place that in the “in-between” terrain. The factor you mention is related to on what boards your campaign counts your posts. Now, as you mention, if you know nothing about gambling, and you are required to post on the gambling boards, then perhaps that is campaign to give a skip. After all, if the campaign’s board sections are not of great interest, and one lacks a prior background (that would be my case), then it would lack that sync that I mentioned before. On the other hand, another person may resort to spending a vast amount of time building the required background as you go during the campaign, although one would certainly be better off with a keenness to the topics.

Again, I wouldn’t place the campaign as the element that is diverting and distracting the person from learning, but rather more the match between the two. In the case you propose, I’d give it a pass, since I have no background on betting, and moreover, no real interest (other than perhaps from the underlying statistics).

[GiftedMAN]

Related topic: {Facts} Benefits of promoting (joining) a quality paid signature campaign.
I notice the sudden interest of newbie/jnr members wanting to join signature campaigns, starting thread on this board in the past few weeks. I recommend you read this post Signature Campaign Guidelines (read this before starting or joining a campaign) and in addition to the above topic I'll list some factors you should consider before joining a paid signature campaign irrespective of your rank because the signature you wear speak alot about you on forum.


[1]: Build your account before joining a campaign.

I consider this as the most important factor to consider before joining a campaign. If you haven't built your account don't go joining a campaign because it'll only distract you. It's more benefiting to join paid campaigns as Full member but joining as a self made member isn't that bad also. Take your time to built your account, there'll be more campaign in the future. Don't be in a rush to earn via forum.

[2]: Join a campaign you agree with and not just for the payout.

If you're the type that dislike gambling or have no idea on how it works, don't go joining a gamble campaign just because they pay better. It will lead you to spamming and most times posting off topic.

View this as an example.


The user in question is promoting/wearing a gamble related signature but advising others through his reply not to gamble, isn't that contradicting what he's advertising. Join a campaign you agree with don't join just because of payouts.

[3]: Consider Weekly maximum post required.
Avoid campaigns that requires high number of maximum posts weekly, such campaigns does the forum no good and only encourages spamming. Evaluate your posting skills and from your post history determine what your average weekly post is, don't just up into any campaign that'll end you up with rapid increase of post counts without adding value to the forum.

[4]: Join a campaign that encourages quality posting:
 Consider the bitcoin you get paid as a monetary reward for your quality posting on the forum so as merit is also a reward. The campaign you join opens doors for more benefits on the forum then just earning bitcoin, there are some special campaign managers that if you get accepted into the campaigns they're managing, you can consider yourself as a reputed or quality poster on forum, that should be the type of campaign you should strive to join as such campaign encourages quality posting and I'll help build your reputation as a quality poster on forum.

[5]: Consider boards post count are accepted in.
I notice many forum users joins signature campaign without considering the boards they're most active in. I recommend you join a signature campaign based on the boards you're active in, currently I won't join a campaign that doesn't consider Beginner and help board as an acceptable baord for post count. Reason been that that's the board I'm most active and familiar with and enjoying answering questions ask and assisting newbie on the board. Lets say there's a campaign focus on accepting participants only posting on Development & Technical Discussion baord I won't apply for such campaign since I'm not that familiar with the board and most of my post would be considering off topic as I'll be struggling to meet my post count which might lead to spamming the board and might end up getting ban or removed from campaign.

[6] Know the project well before advertising.
Before you apply to promote any project through signature campaign, carryout some background check on the forum and google too, make sure that project is legitimate and has no past record of scam or it's a scam. Advertising scam project through signature could lead to your account recieving Red tag.
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6: Know your Signature well before advertising: Check whether you are promoting a legit project or not. Check whether link in signature are not malicious or leads to the phishing site. Whenever in doubt, raise concern. Don not keep mum because it is paying you.

Guidelines: Guide on avoid red tags by supporting already known scam projects

[7]: Consider the reputation of campaign manager before applying.
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Another factor to weigh-in is the reputation of both the Campaign Manager and the Campaign itself. A Campaign Manager with a track of well managed campaigns could be an important plus to consider, and checking this out may lead to better chances that the campaign does not eventually turn out to be a fiasco in terms of compromised crypto revenue.

Reputed CM: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers

[8]:Verify fund available and address ownership through sig message
Before joining a signature campaign always verify if the campaign manager has the available fund to pay participants for the week. You can do this by searching the bitcoin address posted by CM on https://www.blockchain.com and if you're in doubt of address ownership you can request for a sig message to prove he/she has control over the private key of that address.
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Note if the Manager has provided a unique address to pay for the campaign and if he has enough funds to pay everyone. Ideally, the campaign has contracted an escrow with a good reputation in the forum to be responsible for storing the funds.

[9]: Consider the payout option before applying.
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You also need to take in consideration if the campaign is going to pay you directly on your desired wallet or will it be deposited on their platforms, i.e. for gambling related, there are campaigns that require you to create an account on their site and they going to deposit in directly on that account.

But remember that sometimes, you need to shoulder the fees if you're going to withdrawal it. So if the campaigns say, they're going to pay you .01 BTC, then expect less because of the withdrawal fees. Not unless the campaign manager can work out with the gambling operators that the fees will be shoulder by the company.

[10]: Read the rules of participation in the campaign:
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For easy understanding: Baofeng is saying that you can read the rules on bonuses and read if it is full or closed, basically, he/she meant of those people applying even if the campaign is full. As to bonuses, there are campaigns nowadays that gives an extra bonus if you have accomplished a certain quality post that the campaign manager believes to be exceptional. It will always be on the verdict of the campaign manager as to how they will choose who to give their bonus or position to a certain spot. Just like sending merit to people, sMerit holder chooses what they think a quality post(s).

In addition, I think campaign managers have these unwritten gentleman’s rule about joining one campaign to another campaign. They can skip people who have a signature campaign already as a sign of respect to its campaign manager.

In as much as you participate in a paid signature campaign on forum, you shouldn't forget the main reason forum was created and always try your best to add value to the forum irrespective of what you're doing as you stay on forum.
Translations:

Filipino translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5132319

Indonesian translation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202929.msg53125700#msg53125700

This topic is open to more suggestion from you guys and I'll update thread as better suggestion are mentioned.

@CryptopreneurBrainboss, I want to appreciate this great work you did here, it will be of good benefit to us that are still growing and members who join campaign for payout without considering this factors listed here.

All the factors you listed here are ok and anyone who work with it will be successful in the forum. I will not hesitate to follow factor one, two, four and seven because it says a lot about my reason for joining this forum. Thank you for this power Teaching.

[firmino10]

this guide is very educative. thanks so much . most times is all about the reward that we don't see what is demanded of us and what the campaign entails. no. 3 can put people under pressure to meet requirement, that could lead to spamming and plagiarism. the guide will encourage one to go into campaign that meets ones requirement in terms of rank, interest and others.