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Title: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: KingScorpio on March 14, 2019, 06:02:46 PM
gratulation:

https://www.ccn.com/bitcointalk-lost-a-third-of-its-users-in-february

if the community of bitcoin talk keeps drying down, it wont be good for Bitcoin Either.

you are sitting on a treearm that is running out of juice


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: cryptohunter on March 14, 2019, 06:05:26 PM
gratulation:

https://www.ccn.com/bitcointalk-lost-a-third-of-its-users-in-february

if the community of bitcoin talk keeps drying down, it wont be good for Bitcoin Either.

you are sitting on a treearm that is running out of juice

No. Those are simply the financially motivated shit posting scum that were ruining the place. Just another 33.3% reduction and we will start to see far more useful collisions between real enthusiasts.

Next we just need 70% of the current DT to leave and the systems of control to be fixed up a bit and we will be flying again.

These reductions in numbers of quick buck spammers are GOOD for bitcoin and this movement in general.

Don't fool yourself they will be staying away though... as soon as they smell a good old bull run coming then expect them to return.

Nobody who discovers crypto ever really leaves. Only the enthusiasts stick around during long bears.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: OgNasty on March 14, 2019, 06:06:23 PM
This is the historical norm in every bear market, right?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: KingScorpio on March 14, 2019, 06:07:55 PM
gratulation:

https://www.ccn.com/bitcointalk-lost-a-third-of-its-users-in-february

if the community of bitcoin talk keeps drying down, it wont be good for Bitcoin Either.

you are sitting on a treearm that is running out of juice

No. Those are simply the financially motivated shit posting scum that were ruining the place. Just another 33.3% reduction and we will start to see far more useful collisions between real enthusiasts.

financially motivated you say... like the bitcoin whales and the admins of this comunity?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: AB de Royse777 on March 14, 2019, 06:13:17 PM
Let the media do their job. Who cares? Those true Bitcoiners do not care at all. Good luck with that. Sometimes spreading FUD brings better outcome.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: cryptohunter on March 14, 2019, 06:25:08 PM
gratulation:

https://www.ccn.com/bitcointalk-lost-a-third-of-its-users-in-february

if the community of bitcoin talk keeps drying down, it wont be good for Bitcoin Either.

you are sitting on a treearm that is running out of juice

No. Those are simply the financially motivated shit posting scum that were ruining the place. Just another 33.3% reduction and we will start to see far more useful collisions between real enthusiasts.

financially motivated you say... like the bitcoin whales and the admins of this comunity?

This is  a fair point.

Well we are ALL financially motivated or were. It is natural. Anyone claiming they are not or were not at some point are likely lying.

However, deliberately text spinning others work, spamming, scamming, pumping garbage projects and doing anything that they know is ruining this entire movement and diluting others hard work is damaging. When they leave it is not like a tree running out of sap. It is like a tree no longer saturated in destructive parasites. We can not say at all their leaving is going to have a negative impact on the movement as a whole.

Actually anyone -- rich or poor , noob or admin that are willing to damage/game the board or the environment here for "extra" financial gain would not be missed imho. Numbers are not so important as a strong cohesive group.

I am just saying an organism ridding itself of net negative parasites is not a weaker or dying organism. This is a false assumption.



Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on March 14, 2019, 06:36:06 PM
Let the media do their job. Who cares?
They do a shitty job in general, which is why I don't watch TV or even keep up with the world.  I find that I can function just fine without keeping abreast of world news.  On the other hand, crypto news does interest me but based on this article and others I've seen from CCN, I don't think that organization is reputable.  They obviously have some bias (which I happen to agree with, but it's bias nonetheless), and that's a huge red flag in my eyes.

The info in that article does make sense, though.  People aren't going to be as enthusiastic about an asset that's not doing much of anything other than existing at a price that's much lower than what it was at the end of 2017.  It shouldn't be surprising that google searches have dropped drastically if the mainstream media isn't reporting on bitcoin as much, but that doesn't worry me.  I've been into crypto long enough to know that lulls like this don't last forever, and that bitcoin will eventually start to move.

The question in my mind as I read this was what does this mean for all of these signature campaigns and bounties that rely on eyeballs?  Decreased traffic seems to imply that fewer people are going to be seeing all of this advertising, so I'm wondering if campaigns and bounties are headed toward oblivion. 


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: cryptohunter on March 14, 2019, 06:48:55 PM
Let the media do their job. Who cares?

The question in my mind as I read this was what does this mean for all of these signature campaigns and bounties that rely on eyeballs?  Decreased traffic seems to imply that fewer people are going to be seeing all of this advertising, so I'm wondering if campaigns and bounties are headed toward oblivion.  

I knew that would be your first concern.

Up your spamming rate ...quickkkkkkkk


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: theymos on March 14, 2019, 06:54:05 PM
That's nonsense data, an estimate from a Web analytics company based on who-knows-what.

The real data (https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats) shows for example:
 - Late February 2018: ~3.51 million total ad impressions per day
 - Early January 2019: ~3.44 million total ad impressions per day
 - Late February 2019: ~3.41 million total ad impressions per day


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: RocketSingh on March 14, 2019, 06:56:03 PM
That's nonsense data, an estimate from a Web analytics company based on who-knows-what.

The real data (https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats) shows for example:
 - Late February 2018: ~3.51 million total ad impressions per day
 - Early January 2019: ~3.44 million total ad impressions per day
 - Late February 2019: ~3.41 million total ad impressions per day
Is this data from Google Analytics?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: theymos on March 14, 2019, 07:02:26 PM
Is this data from Google Analytics?

No, it's based on data collected server-side on every ad impression. No JavaScript analytics is used.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: BitMaxz on March 14, 2019, 07:10:04 PM
It seems there are many people lose interest in bitcoin according to google trends and I think they are thinking that there is no hope for bitcoin to rise back again.

Why they use the google trends data it is just a search interest where people use the google search engine to find something. I am sure many people know bitcoin already so they don't need to use google to find about bitcoin.

Many users use bitcoin and  I think we are growing as what I see compared on the past years ago except to December 2017. They don't need google trends to estimate the value of bitcoin they should study the history of bitcoin from the beginning so that they know what is the price of bitcoin years ago.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: RocketSingh on March 14, 2019, 07:40:23 PM
Is this data from Google Analytics?

No, it's based on data collected server-side on every ad impression. No JavaScript analytics is used.

Ok. As Bitcointalk uses CloudFlare now, would you mind to share the unique visitor data from CloudFlare?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: theymos on March 14, 2019, 08:00:24 PM
Ok. As Bitcointalk uses CloudFlare now, would you mind to share the unique visitor data from CloudFlare?

For the last month:
 - Total unique visitors: 2,225,590
 - Maximum unique visitors per day: 237,632
 - Minimum unique visitors per day: 137,979


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: AB de Royse777 on March 14, 2019, 08:05:19 PM
Let the media do their job. Who cares?
They do a shitty job in general, which is why I don't watch TV or even keep up with the world.  I find that I can function just fine without keeping abreast of world news.  On the other hand, crypto news does interest me but based on this article and others I've seen from CCN, I don't think that organization is reputable.  They obviously have some bias (which I happen to agree with, but it's bias nonetheless), and that's a huge red flag in my eyes.
When I see CCN it reminds me CNN. Obviously they mimicked CNN and tried to confuse people. I also do not see that they have much reputation except the site was created in 1992.

Anyway, after seeing theymos's two response, OP should have very clear idea now that the news was just a noise. Some people sitting on their desk and writing some made up story.

Let's leave the topic and move on.

Cheers :-)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: vizique on March 14, 2019, 09:13:08 PM
Price goes up, price goes down....
users goes up, users go down ....
rinse and repeat.

Viz


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: LTU_btc on March 14, 2019, 09:42:20 PM
So, I don't understand point of this article. Is it something surprising that traffic of Bitcoin forum is going dow, considering long bear market and crypto is down by ~70% or something? Because it would be strange to see increasing number of active forum users in current market conditions. And theymos post shows that these stats from public resources isn't always accurate. It's easy to create fake news nowadays...
But I also see positive side of decreased number of active forum users. 1.5 year ago it was impossible to use forum and have good discussions. Thousands of people who came here just for money were making generic shitposts in spam megathreads without reading anything. Now Bitcointalk isn't perfect, but situation is much better than we had in past. But I'm not sure about main reason which helped to improve forum - is it just because of bear market, or merit system did what it was supposed to do? Or maybe both things have influence...


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: vit05 on March 14, 2019, 09:52:58 PM
CCN is just a news blog specialized in cryptocurrency that receives fewer visitors than bitcointalk...

BTW, It would be interesting if in the Press section we had this distinction. Among blogs and websites specialized in cryptocurrency, which would be posted in other sections, and news and articles from traditional news websites like CNN, Bloomberg, NY Times etc.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: rhomelmabini on March 14, 2019, 11:12:06 PM
What's with CNN, no news to be posted? Let those weak hands mourn for they lose yet no learning to be learnt and will back again if they knew bitcoin rising up one more time.

Or is it the fact that forum has slowly cleaning up the trolls, shitposters and spambies. For some reason ICOs isn't profitable way back 2017 and those who wants just to join to profit in bounties are declining as well. That article is clearly one sided.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: Cøbra on March 14, 2019, 11:39:31 PM
These crypto media sites don't even write for an audience, because nobody goes to these sites organically. They just pump out articles to be featured in Google's "Top Stories" section. Search "Bitcoin" and you'll see what I mean:

https://i.imgur.com/dxT1TcT.png

As long as they keep producing articles daily, they'll keep getting placed above actual relevant content on Google's search engine results. No doubt a lot of people will click into these articles from Google, and the media sites make money. You don't even need to hire actual journalists, you can literally just hire Indian high school students to pump this garbage out.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: mikeywith on March 15, 2019, 01:15:50 AM
I think bitcoin or some other project will at least give some improvement in  fairness and equality in terms of opportunity to the masses over the fiat systems we have right now.

This will never happen, what many people fail to understand that bitcoin is merely a different payment method, it's not a new monetary system, whoever is rich with fiat will be rich with crypto, same applies for the poor.

 if tomorrow the world agrees to "lemon" as being the measurement of wealth,  poor people who grow lemon at the backyard of their tiny houses will still be poor, the rich guys will always know how to get those lemons from them.



Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: tranthidung on March 15, 2019, 02:06:57 AM
Price goes up, price goes down....
users goes up, users go down ....
rinse and repeat.

Viz

Don't blame it on bitcointalk.
Don't blame it on bitcoin.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: KingScorpio on March 15, 2019, 08:08:14 AM
Price goes up, price goes down....
users goes up, users go down ....
rinse and repeat.

Viz

Don't blame it on bitcointalk.
Don't blame it on bitcoin.

i think user number is advanced to price movement, so its a good indicator


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: DdmrDdmr on March 15, 2019, 08:35:02 AM
Things are obviously quieter, as one would expect after all the bull run and ICO hype, but statistics often need to be relativized to a context and inner knowledge of how they are built.

Take for example Google Trends. Although the information it shows is valuable, one needs to take into consideration how it draws up the data (relativized to all searches performed on Google, and to the peak of the studied terms), and that the charts do not take into consideration sentiment (i.e. if we are talking positively or negatively about the search term) nor context.

This is a brief explanation of how Google Trends derives it’s data:

Google trends can be used as an indicator on multiple fields, although some studies have met poor results for its use as a predictor.For example  s Google Trends a reliable tool for digital epidemiology? Insights from different clinical settings (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2210600617301090)) concludes that:

"Taken together, the results of our study confirm that Google Trends has very modest reliability for delineating the true population epidemiology of relatively common diseases with poor media coverage or rarer diseases with large audience. Overall, Google Trends seems to be more influenced by media clamor than by the true epidemiological impact of disease, at least in the diseases examined here. Therefore, the real scientific usefulness of the so called "digital epidemiology" remains questionable, at least when using Google Trends."

We could of course find examples in favour and against, and although it certainly does have some appeal, one needs to be extra careful when interpreting the results:

On the one hand we need to understand how those charts are created. The charts set as the 100 threshold score the value where the search pattern is highest in relation to the searches performed in that same timeframe and geographical scope studied. All other readings on the chart are then relativizes to that maximum.

Say for example on day X the Bitcoin search term was sough 100K times out of 10M search searches, then the ratio for that day would be of 1%. If that was the maximum ratio for each date in the chart’s window, then that would be peak of the chart, and be set as base 100. Now if on another day there were 120K searches for Bitcoin, but the total amount of searches was of 16M, then the ratio would be of 0,75%, which is lower than the peak. Is it really lower? Well it is in relative search terms, but not in absolute search terms, where it is up by 20% that will not show on those relative charts.

Another factor to consider is sentiment: the charts ponder the number of searches for the term, but do not give it a context. I.e. Bitcoin could be suffering a severe crash and the number of searched on the engine related to Bitcoin will rise greatly, but the rise in the chart is counterproductive if interpreted alone without a context.




Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: NeuroticFish on March 15, 2019, 08:49:16 AM
Price goes up, price goes down....
users goes up, users go down ....
rinse and repeat.

Viz

Don't blame it on bitcointalk.
Don't blame it on bitcoin.

i think user number is advanced to price movement, so its a good indicator


I wrote already, I'll repeat it here too. It's not only the price. It's the ICOs and bounties that are far less now, it's the Merit that makes the low quality bounty hunters (and their way too many spawns) become jobless.
So indeed. Don't blame it on <see the list>. Blame CCN for low quality news meant only for some extra views.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: tbct_mt2 on March 15, 2019, 09:00:36 AM
That's what Mr. President D. J. Trump called fake news.
Blame it on fake news.
Quote
Blame CCN for low quality news meant only for some extra views.
Not only CCN, but also the cointelegraph.com turned to be low quality crypto news site recent months, since the second half of 2018.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: NeuroticFish on March 15, 2019, 09:23:58 AM
That's what Mr. President D. J. Trump called fake news.
Blame it on fake news.
Quote
Blame CCN for low quality news meant only for some extra views.
Not only CCN, but also the cointelegraph.com turned to be low quality crypto news site recent months, since the second half of 2018.

They are not fake per sé, but they can be misleading by omission and do it to prove their point.
The conclusion is correct, so I can't really call them fake news.

Quote
Those who won’t buy bitcoin again until they hear about it in Time Magazine will likely miss gains.


But I agree that they are not the only ones with low quality "news".


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: DdmrDdmr on March 15, 2019, 09:31:03 AM
<…> so why these huge continuous loses then? <…>   
Well, due to all the crypto related factors that are now in reversal in relation to the hype around the beginning of 2018. There is an undeniable relationship between how the crypto market evolves, and how the number of forum members evolve, or the number of posts that they create over time. Being in a bear market, and after the ICO sphere general fiasco, we can’t expect the forum to be thriving in a diametric opposite direction than the general market.

Perspective also needs to be taken into consideration. Just yesterday I posted that the number of posts per month now seems to be similar to that of the first half of 2017 (see re:Statistics of user registrations on Bitcointalk 2017-2019 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4685601.msg50161115#msg50161115). Like I said there:
<...> The number of created post per month is dropping to similar numbers as those around the first half of 2017. There is an obvious correlation to crypto hype and value variance, and the numbers are interpretable according to one’s perspective. For a person signed-up during early 2018, things are really quiet now. For a person who signed-up in 2016 or before mid 2017, numbers seem to be training back to those days. <…>
Looking at the chart on the referenced post, the 1 merit for Jr. Members introduced in mid September 2018 did not seem to alter the trend at all (number of posts per month), but rather continued its downward pattern, which, as expected, is in consonance to market (see for example chart comparison on re: Bitcointalk is Dying? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111585.msg49816709#msg49816709)).

Even the data provided by @theymos, while keeping what are probably decent numbers, when seen from a historical perspective (the provided link to the Ad stats has data going back to April 2012) shows the above.

The way I see it, Bitcointalk seems to be rather aligned to how Bitcoin/cypto is behaving currently. That is natural and rather much unavoidable.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: tranthidung on March 15, 2019, 10:01:27 AM
But I agree that they are not the only ones with low quality "news".
It is the way D.J.Trump name-called low quality news.
Personally, I don't really like his way to call all news that he don't like as fake news.
It sounds like a dictator.
Anyway, I agreed that news on so many well-known sites turned out to lower quality as they used to have.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: tranthidung on March 15, 2019, 10:22:21 AM
Looking at the chart on the referenced post, the 1 merit for Jr. Members introduced in mid September 2018 did not seem to alter the trend at all (number of posts per month), but rather continued its downward pattern, which, as expected, is in consonance to market (see for example chart comparison on re: Bitcointalk is Dying? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111585.msg49816709#msg49816709)).
< ... >
The way I see it, Bitcointalk seems to be rather aligned to how Bitcoin/cypto is behaving currently. That is natural and rather much unavoidable.
Agreed with you, @DdmrDdmr.
There are my time series plots, which support your stance above.

And this one
ABSTRACT
(1) 50% of observed months have intra-month registered account range from 2311 to 27790 (the interquartile range);
(2) 50% of observed months have intra-month registered account above or below 10432 (the median);
(3) The intra-month registered account fell 91.6% from its all time high in 2017 at 238400 to 20046; whilst the bitcoin decreased nearly 83.9%.
(4) The demotion on Junior Members in September 2018 probably caused intra-month registered accounts fell considerbaly later months.
(5) The difference in means of before and after periods (cut-off timepoint is Sept. 2018) is -63.6%.


Time-series plot


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: KingScorpio on March 15, 2019, 10:34:26 AM
Looking at the chart on the referenced post, the 1 merit for Jr. Members introduced in mid September 2018 did not seem to alter the trend at all (number of posts per month), but rather continued its downward pattern, which, as expected, is in consonance to market (see for example chart comparison on re: Bitcointalk is Dying? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111585.msg49816709#msg49816709)).
< ... >
The way I see it, Bitcointalk seems to be rather aligned to how Bitcoin/cypto is behaving currently. That is natural and rather much unavoidable.
Agreed with you, @DdmrDdmr.
There are my time series plots, which support your stance above.

And this one
ABSTRACT
(1) 50% of observed months have intra-month registered account range from 2311 to 27790 (the interquartile range);
(2) 50% of observed months have intra-month registered account above or below 10432 (the median);
(3) The intra-month registered account fell 91.6% from its all time high in 2017 at 238400 to 20046; whilst the bitcoin decreased nearly 83.9%.
(4) The demotion on Junior Members in September 2018 probably caused intra-month registered accounts fell considerbaly later months.
(5) The difference in means of before and after periods (cut-off timepoint is Sept. 2018) is -63.6%.


Time-series plot

can you pls put the time correct bitcoin price as second lines of those diagrams would be nice to research the correlation between the community and the bitcoin price/market support


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: tranthidung on March 15, 2019, 10:42:00 AM
can you pls put the time correct bitcoin price as second lines of those diagrams would be nice to research the correlation between the community and the bitcoin price/market support
Sure, I can do it, but the problem is I have to manually trace back the historical price of bitcoin, enter data points manually, then draw the time series plot.
I don't have intention to manually do it, it is so much work to do.
You can open the bitcoin price chart, copy & paste it into Paint, then see the two charts (mine & bitcoin's monthly price chart, I meant), to see what you wanted.  :P

If you can give me price of bitcoin at following time points, I will plot new time series for you.
There are points on which theymos scrapped data
Code:
+---------------------+---------------+
| 30day starting      | registrations |
+---------------------+---------------+
| 2009-11-02 00:00:00 |             3 |
| 2009-12-02 00:00:00 |             8 |
| 2010-01-01 00:00:00 |             8 |
| 2010-01-31 00:00:00 |            22 |
| 2010-03-02 00:00:00 |             5 |
| 2010-04-01 00:00:00 |            22 |
| 2010-05-01 00:00:00 |            15 |
| 2010-05-31 00:00:00 |            33 |
| 2010-06-30 00:00:00 |           325 |
| 2010-07-30 00:00:00 |           159 |
| 2010-08-29 00:00:00 |           148 |
| 2010-09-28 00:00:00 |           190 |
| 2010-10-28 00:00:00 |           204 |
| 2010-11-27 00:00:00 |           383 |
| 2010-12-27 00:00:00 |           384 |
| 2011-01-26 00:00:00 |           938 |
| 2011-02-25 00:00:00 |          2202 |
| 2011-03-27 00:00:00 |          2737 |
| 2011-04-26 00:00:00 |          4936 |
| 2011-05-26 00:00:00 |         14048 |
| 2011-06-25 00:00:00 |          6250 |
| 2011-07-25 00:00:00 |          3903 |
| 2011-08-24 00:00:00 |          2938 |
| 2011-09-23 00:00:00 |          1983 |
| 2011-10-23 00:00:00 |          1965 |
| 2011-11-22 00:00:00 |          1835 |
| 2011-12-22 00:00:00 |          1812 |
| 2012-01-21 00:00:00 |          2082 |
| 2012-02-20 00:00:00 |          1901 |
| 2012-03-21 00:00:00 |          2158 |
| 2012-04-20 00:00:00 |          1969 |
| 2012-05-20 00:00:00 |          2057 |
| 2012-06-19 00:00:00 |          2040 |
| 2012-07-19 00:00:00 |          2145 |
| 2012-08-18 00:00:00 |          2419 |
| 2012-09-17 00:00:00 |          2661 |
| 2012-10-17 00:00:00 |          2958 |
| 2012-11-16 00:00:00 |          2763 |
| 2012-12-16 00:00:00 |          2611 |
| 2013-01-15 00:00:00 |          3320 |
| 2013-02-14 00:00:00 |          4933 |
| 2013-03-16 00:00:00 |         13816 |
| 2013-04-15 00:00:00 |         18162 |
| 2013-05-15 00:00:00 |         11318 |
| 2013-06-14 00:00:00 |          8095 |
| 2013-07-14 00:00:00 |          6703 |
| 2013-08-13 00:00:00 |          5505 |
| 2013-09-12 00:00:00 |          4137 |
| 2013-10-12 00:00:00 |          5632 |
| 2013-11-11 00:00:00 |         26804 |
| 2013-12-11 00:00:00 |         28776 |
| 2014-01-10 00:00:00 |         29576 |
| 2014-02-09 00:00:00 |         29839 |
| 2014-03-11 00:00:00 |         22534 |
| 2014-04-10 00:00:00 |         18065 |
| 2014-05-10 00:00:00 |         13071 |
| 2014-06-09 00:00:00 |         12180 |
| 2014-07-09 00:00:00 |         10561 |
| 2014-08-08 00:00:00 |         10925 |
| 2014-09-07 00:00:00 |          9418 |
| 2014-10-07 00:00:00 |          8218 |
| 2014-11-06 00:00:00 |          7974 |
| 2014-12-06 00:00:00 |          8136 |
| 2015-01-05 00:00:00 |         23256 |
| 2015-02-04 00:00:00 |         36913 |
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Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: asche on March 15, 2019, 04:30:03 PM
if the community of bitcoin talk keeps drying down, it wont be good for Bitcoin Either.

I knew you were a troll, I didn't know you had issues of understanding english.

It says nowhere that the community is dying down. It merely says there are less links posted on other sites.

It has little to do with actual audience of the forum.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: Lafu on March 15, 2019, 04:41:09 PM
Yes we all know this Troll !

Everytime i read something of some posts or in some threads he created i just asking myself , why is he here ?

Because the most time he is against Bitcoin and says that it will be die and and and ......  !

Waste of time to discuss about with him and maybe he gets on my Ignore list !


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: KingScorpio on March 15, 2019, 05:55:17 PM
Yes we all know this Troll !

Everytime i read something of some posts or in some threads he created i just asking myself , why is he here ?

Because the most time he is against Bitcoin and says that it will be die and and and ......  !

Waste of time to discuss about with him and maybe he gets on my Ignore list !

well jes keep doing that with everyone that confronts you with issues, and you all will end up like a bunch of ghouls that lost connection to reality.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: TryNinja on March 15, 2019, 05:59:14 PM
well jes keep doing that with everyone that confronts you with issues, and you all will end up like a bunch of ghouls that lost connection to reality.
Can't you just leave if you think the forum sucks and it's slowly dying? No one really asked for your opinion. Everybody knows that you are just butthurt that you got tagged for merit abusing. Why waste your time?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: KingScorpio on March 15, 2019, 06:04:27 PM
well jes keep doing that with everyone that confronts you with issues, and you all will end up like a bunch of ghouls that lost connection to reality.
Can't you just leave if you think the forum sucks and it's slowly dying? No one really asked for your opinion. Everybody knows that you are just butthurt that you got tagged for merit abusing. Stop wasting your time here.

well i help you by confronting you with reality,

its not that i like and support your idea, of building bitcoin miners all over the world. and have a big fat global competition to mine bitcoin.

i consider that madness actually.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: stompix on March 15, 2019, 08:02:45 PM
well i help you by confronting you with reality,

Unfortunately, your reality is from a parallel universe.
Theymos already gave you the statistics from the server, not approximations made by 3rd party services that have a very low accuracy as they obviously can't track people that don't use their services.

The simple fact that the website that did the analysis ranked Wikipedia 10th while Alexa put it on 5th and Twitter on 6 while Alexa ranked it 11th should make you understand how accurate those are.

Just take a look what mess is when checking bitcointalk on both:

https://www.similarweb.com/website/bitcointalk.org
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org





Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: asche on March 15, 2019, 08:06:34 PM
Unfortunately, your reality is from a parallel universe.

You can't fight bad faith with rationality unfortunately.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: Lafu on March 15, 2019, 08:32:26 PM
Its a never ending Story with him !
We have so often asked why he is here and what he want because he is complaining the most times about the Forum and Bitcoin !
But he dont leave !

Waste of Time !


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: r1s2g3 on March 16, 2019, 01:32:20 AM
i think user number is advanced to price movement, so its a good indicator

Not as linear as you think. It may help but not guaranteed.
Price in any market is governed by demand and supply and  I see no exceptions here.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: pawanjain on March 16, 2019, 02:42:56 AM
Let the media do their job. Who cares?
They do a shitty job in general, which is why I don't watch TV or even keep up with the world.  I find that I can function just fine without keeping abreast of world news.  On the other hand, crypto news does interest me but based on this article and others I've seen from CCN, I don't think that organization is reputable.  They obviously have some bias (which I happen to agree with, but it's bias nonetheless), and that's a huge red flag in my eyes.

The info in that article does make sense, though.  People aren't going to be as enthusiastic about an asset that's not doing much of anything other than existing at a price that's much lower than what it was at the end of 2017.  It shouldn't be surprising that google searches have dropped drastically if the mainstream media isn't reporting on bitcoin as much, but that doesn't worry me.  I've been into crypto long enough to know that lulls like this don't last forever, and that bitcoin will eventually start to move.

Based on the latter posts and the data theymos provided it's quite clear now that the media is really biased and I knew this from long time ago which is why I stopped watching the TV just like you did. Anyway whats on the TV is on the internet and besides that the internet gives us multiple results for a specific piece of information while the TV just shows filtered content which is set by the biased people. So it's best for us to stop following such Hippocratic biased people.

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The question in my mind as I read this was what does this mean for all of these signature campaigns and bounties that rely on eyeballs?  Decreased traffic seems to imply that fewer people are going to be seeing all of this advertising, so I'm wondering if campaigns and bounties are headed toward oblivion.  
Well even if it was such a case then we could have also taken this thing as positively because all the shitposters are moving out of Bitcointalk due to the merit system which does mean there are less posters now but it also means that there are better posters now and more highlight will be given to better quality posts. This means that for every campaign the quality of posts will be better meaning that more people will see it. Just my point of view  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk.org did it into the big cryptomedia today....
Post by: eternalgloom on March 16, 2019, 02:46:14 PM
That's nonsense data, an estimate from a Web analytics company based on who-knows-what.

The real data (https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats) shows for example:
 - Late February 2018: ~3.51 million total ad impressions per day
 - Early January 2019: ~3.44 million total ad impressions per day
 - Late February 2019: ~3.41 million total ad impressions per day

Exactly what I said in another thread that came up with these figures (that visitor counts were dropping).

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5119719.msg50131697#msg50131697


Also, how accurate are these statistics? Aren't they just estimates?
Only Theymos can provide us with accurate visitor stats of Bitcointalk.


Glad that you posted them here.