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Hhampuz is being a campaign manager of 2 online casinos and one lottery campaign which websites have no company info at all or any legal license.
There is no physical adress at all where bitcointalk member could held someone repsonsible if they get cheated.

Hhampuz should not be allowed to promote such shit websites which even hide their physical adress at all cost.One website doesn't even have a terms and condition  .


Thats the worst gambling websites someone could promote.


https://www.matchbillion.com/
https://blackjack.fun/
https://bitcoinvideocasino.com

I thought all the funds used in Hhampuz campaigns is escrowed or in the manager public wallet (at least), as i don't remember complaints from participantans claiming not to receive their bounty paiements. Am not sure about this but his reputation is confirmed by his honest trade history and positive received feedbacks + nice career profile.
And i don't think he endorse those projects, he is just the manager of the bounty.

I don't think you are able to judge the reputation of this great manager and good forum user. You don't have any solid proof against him so S.T.F.U .
Just go find something to play with.

This is Thule you're talking to, lack of solid proof has never stopped him from levying unfounded allegations against reputed members of the forum.  His only criteria for attempting to tarnish their reputation is that they have an impeccable one. 

Two merit whores again on my thread.To dumb to read even the post i made properly.
Where did i stated you dumbfuck that H. is scamming or not paying bounties?Did i wrote a single word about it you blind idiots ?


I clearly wrote he is the campaign manager of online casinos which have 1.no physical adress which makes it impossible for bitcointalk members to go after them should they get cheated and 2.They have no license to run such a website which makes these websites ilegal and promoting ilegal websites is also ilegal.

Since you both dumbfucks claim i have no proof you both DUMBFUCKS are allowed to proof me wrong that these websites provide a physical adress or company info and do have a license.

Am waiting for your dumbfucks merit whores proof that i'm wrong

I always escrow funds in my wallets except for one campaign which is FJ, they've been hosting campaigns here for years now and have probably paid out 100+BTC to their participants. I never put my participants at risk of not getting compensated and if there's ever any issues with my clients I always reach out to them and ask them to clarify or sort it out. I've even put campaigns on hold in the past due to issues coming up.

I think the reason behind this thread is that Thule got angry because he messaged me and asked if I could accept him into any of my campaigns on which I replied no.

Why do you change topic Hhampuz?I messaged a lot of campaign providers asking to make a review list which you were informed about.I never expected to get accepted nor would i ever advertise ilegal gambling websites.I also never questioned bounty payments.Funny you write about bounty where i didn't even used the word payment or bounty.


What i claim is that you are promoting gambling websites which have NO physical adress,No company info and NO license to run such a website legaly.
I checked the websites myself and it was instantly viewable that the settings of these websites are not standard settings for any legal casino.

You are promoting ilegal websites which is also ilegal and which are scamming bitcontalk members with their non standard settings

Would you mind quoting wherever you informed me about such reviews? I only recall you calling me pathetic after I've turned you down and that's the first time you said anything about this.

Either way, if this is illegal I invite you to report me to the authorities, reach out to 4x4tet, he enjoys spreading my dox.

It just shows how you guys work.Claiming to protect the community against scammers and at the same time promote ilegal websites to them with non standard settings which has only one goal to mislead and gain the most possible which is not allowed by law.
You are the scammers on this board by promoting ilega websites which breaks any defined standards.

Please send me your details and i will

I've never claimed to protect the community. If you can quote me stating that though I'll report myself to my athorities.

On the other side of the coin however, I'm 100% confident that I've done more for this community than you have, would you mind sharing what you've done that is good for this community other than spewing shit, hating on the owner of the forum (seriously, if you hate whoever owns it, just leave) or just rant on and on about things nobody cares about. Is that the kind of mentality you'd like for me to employ?

EDIT; I assume that you such as others in the past have mistaken me for a self-proclaimed scam buster who spits out negative trust. This is not the case and it is worth noting that you've long had me excluded from your trustlist although I've not exluded you or given you negative trust. Why you are coming after me now is not really clear although I have a few ideas.

I'll stop replying to this thread now as well. To anyone reading past this post, please take notice of the current mental state of OP, they seem to be in a dark place and once someone stops listening to reason there's not much more to do.

I think the concern of the OP is that you are facilitating the advertising of casinos that thule concludes to be shady because, according to him, they do not have a "license". The concern does not appear to be that participants are at risk of not getting paid.

I do agree that it would be best to not facilitate the advertising of a scam, of a company that is untrustworthy, or a company that is known to harm its customers. However, in most cases involving crypto casinos, a "license" is meaningless IMO, and I don't think they provide any *real* protection to gamblers. I suspect most crypto casinos with "gambling licenses" are still breaking the law in one way or another in most major jurisdictions.   

Is there any open scam accusation against these three website? I am not sure if there is any. It would be better if you can mention. I am not familiar with what kind of licences are you asking. Is it from local government? I am really not trying to defend on behalf of Hhampuz, but it would be better to understand if you add more details. If really there is any scammy activity then obviously managers will stop campaign in order to protect community from scammers. Although all participant getting paid from campaign but community will not support any likely scam if there is clear evidence. So please provide evidence as much as possible why are you think there is chance of scam? If only matter of physical address then Bitcoin itself has no any physical address.  

Do you have any proof that those casinos were scam.

If he is promoting that site even after you gave some proof that they were scammers then you can call him as untrustworthy.But for now he is doing his job perfectly.

Until now there is no scams from those sites so just let it stop from now.

Is there any forum rules and regulation regardings about promoting a Casinos with no license or physical address? if none then someone must do it, Thule has a valid point as it's for the safe and protection of the people who'll use gambling sites with no identities but Hhampuz is a campaign manager and not a sworn protector of this forum against scammers.

And besides there is no scam accusation/s to the said website/s that Thule pointed out.

You don't need my help, you seem to have no trouble proving yourself wrong.  You're a proven liar, hypocrite, and now you can add attempted extortionist to the list of character traits.  Here you are attempting to tarnish the reputation of a campaign manager as retaliation for denying you a spot on one of his campaigns.

If you have trouble with a casino operating without license, why are attacking one their employees?  Why don't you contact the authorities to investigate the legality of their operation?

Alright pay ur taxes like a bitch , u wont have invest either..
However a lot of casinos can be scams so must proceed with caution.

Because he doesn't actually care about the legality of any casinos, just like he doesn't actually care about racism or people getting scammed or anything else besides his naked power lust and his agenda of smearing DT members that he thinks are in some sort of clique.  Here he's really grasping at straws, because Hhampuz is a campaign manager and isn't necessarily affiliated with the people responsible for the campaigns.  If Thule really thought there was something illegal going on that needed to be addressed, he ought to go about it the right way and make a case against the casino itself--not a campaign manager. 

Instead, what we have here is yet another completely transparent attempt at a power grab, and I don't think anyone is going to fall for it.  You'll notice that there isn't much support for any of these arguments that he and cryptohunter and the rest of that crew keep making.  If anyone actually agrees with them, I'd love it if they'd chime in.

How do you want to go after a casino which has no physical adress ,no company info no license number ?

Not possible.There is a reason why they are hiding it.

And yes they are scamming bitcointalk members with manipulated settings which i will write tonight about since i can't currently as i'm in a meeting about a new project.

What i can say is they use manipulated settings to display often cards with a high possibility for a big win.It repeats very often to suggest to player to increase bids since he is close to a big win where in reality you can see that these high amounts of good cards in the beginning are manufactured (mathamicaly not possible to have so often these kind of good cards).Thats why they would never get a license as they don't even meet basic standards.

^ Go to Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0) and post all your proofs there.

The campaign manager's job is to manage the campaign and pay their participants at right time,I think Hhampuz done it perfectly.

It's not desirable any promotion of any scam service, although users will be paid for it. All reputed managers know that. But I agree with you, Thule need to open scam accusation about "suspicious" service (casinos) with all proof of the scam.

Here we go again... @Thule, what's wrong with you, how many personal wars against reputable forum members you're going to make? Who is next on your list? Maybe it's time to stop, because you don't have any valid arguments against them. When people start accusations against other forum users they provide evidence about wrong actions, but things that you post in such threads is total bullshit.

this thread has more stench than a week old used tampon - grow up and fuck off...

the snowfucker is a legit manager, FJ is the best casino out there for BTC..  how about just getting back under the bridge and waiting for someone else to troll

For the three platforms, let's check their accounts in the forum.
blackjack.fun (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2123378)
BitcoinVideoPoker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=74635)
matchbillion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2538327)
All of them have neutral trust,  not red trusts.
So, there is no evidence that they scammed and their sites are bad, at least so far.
All the campaigns of three sites, managed by @Hhampuz paid on time, there is no complaint about payment, even I can not find one complaint.

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Furthermore, @Hhampuz got high green trust, and I have joined his campaigns, without issues with both payments, and post-checks.
Additionally, @Hhampuz temporarily ranked at the 8th position in the list of most trusted one, there
https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=mosttrusted

If a project decides to stay anonymous without a trace of scammy activities, I see no problem in that. I have come in contact with two projects listed above and to my understanding their operations can be considered safe.

I'm positive Hhampuz wouldn't and doesn't associate himself with scam projects that's why I have promoted previously bitcoinvideocasino (for 4weeks) and got paid fully without delay also currently promoting "matchbillion".  Don't just jump into conclusion always have evidence of scam before dragging a reputed user into the picture.

In addition, if @Hhampuz turns to be a managers of scam projects, not only one, but also three, it will be something like the whole forum, including most of DT members turn to be scammers.
Because @Hhampuz got very high trust, and all three sites' accounts have not been red trusted by DT members.
All two factors lead me to conclusion that the manager should be determinantly trusted.

His DT level nothing to do with the managing skills,he is one of the trusted community member and active member on collectible sections for long time so he got more trust from other members.

But he lately increased his managing skills and got many clients for him so you can't trust his skills because of his trust score alone.

How do you come its a personal war ?I don't even know Hhampuz just sent him 3-4 messages asking when making a campaign manager review.
Its about the websites he is promoting.



I guess you just proofed to anybody else what a shit DT member you are.I guess everyone can see based on your poor post that you didn't even read my initial post cause how could you make some stupid comments like snowfucker and that fortunejack is legit where i never even mentioned them.I said clearly its about casino websites which have no adress ,no company info and no license number.
FJ has all of them so its clear you didn't even read my initial post just jumped in as always to defend something you don't even know what exectly.




They have no physical adress,no company info and no license number.
They are ilegal point.
Am i allowed to promote websites which sell cocaine if there will be no scam accusation from bounty participants.




Just go to bitcoinvideocasino and play poker.You can instantly see that you are getting a high amount of good cards like a street which would get you a big win but you always need one more card to win.
The amount of the cards having nearly a full street is so high like each third time that anyone who has experience in poker can tell you the settings are manipulated.
Its a clear rip off on their players.

DT members claim to try to protect members from scams and rip offs tagging for the smallest bullshit but at the same time allow casino rip offs which are so clearly to see.It would just take somebody 5 minutes to test their games and see it instantly.


Also nice to see the supportes who jumped into that thread with their nonsense.All promoting gambling.

I'd like to read your review. Where is it?

I will make a thread about it in a week or so when i have more time since currently i'm in the process of setting up a new company with a new project.


Here one of the main diffrences between FortuneJack and the promoted casinos by Hhampuz


https://fortunejack.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/31000146482-are-the-games-fair-

Hhampuz casinos doesn't have fair games as they use manufactured algorhytmes which is considered in the gambling community cheating or scamming.
I explained about it that they display as example very often good cards to suggest the player they could win a big pot.

When something like that is considered in the gambling community as cheat and scam how does it come that DT members doesn't count it as scam when the website even leaks any physical adress,company info license no. or even terms and condition.

Did anyone even read their rules which are total bs ?

You are not the world police, the forum is not the world police, if you require assistance from the world police get their phone number and fucking call them.

If a person chooses to gamble that's on them and no one else, NO ONE is forcing anyone to gamble anywhere, you have the ability to warn anyone who is stupid enough to open one of your threads and each user is free to decide if they would like to participate or not.

You making blanket statements like this site is illegal everywhere and look at my cards they make me think I will win simply makes you look like a simpleton!

If law enforcement agrees with you and decides to pursue things then a site not advertising it's physical location will not stop them from finding out what they need.

Give this shit up Thule. Hhampuz is a highly trusted member of the community, what are you trying to achieve. He’s been a campaign manager for a very long time & always been trustworthy.

I don’t see what you’re trying to achieve here?

I have found this on sites:

https://www.matchbillion.com/how.html
https://i.imgur.com/gpmkL4j.png

https://blackjack.fun/
https://i.imgur.com/SkTo0oY.png

https://bitcoinvideocasino.com/slots
https://i.imgur.com/IRb3Pqj.png

I don't want to hijack Thule's thread so it is best that they check provably fair system, verify few results and post all proofs of cheating and scamming players.

But you have time for this BS?

PM a global mod and ask to get perma-banned for ban evasion. Problem solved, you'll have a lot more free time.

And you are not worth being a moderator who is deleting uncomfoprtable posts from many members by requests by pigs.
Your opinion is worth shit.
You already proofed by your past actions that you are a peace of ......

Could claim the same for other scam proposals where you get activ.

You wanna claim this is not ilegal ?
You can anytime proof me wrong that these casino websites are not ilegal and not cheating bitcointalk members.

You don't need to be a brain to see that these cards are manufactured.

Instead of hunting inocent people start maybe hunting real scams as you as moderator are acting like a peace of .... who ignores any scam on that board when he gets his share.

So I'm trying to get an unofficial tally of how many supporters Thule has gotten since he started this thread, and it looks to be zero.  Not even Quickseller is jumping on his side.  And not only is there no support, there are plenty of dissenters (me included) who are sticking up for Hhampuz.  That ought to tell you something, Thule.  

I'm beginning to suspect that these kinds of threads are done just for the attention they bring, not even for the anti-DT agenda.  In other words, this is just trolling.  Stop trolling, Thule.

Edit:

Then what you do need is a clue that if your arguments aren't convincing anyone of anything, you might be wrong.  Not that I expect you to ever acknowledging your own error, but it's something you ought to consider.

I don't need supporters.
A scam is a scam and something ilegal keeps being ilegal no matter how many supporters or dissenters i got.Thats the diffrence between me and you.I post based on facts.You post based on herd formation.

But seeing no decent DT member joining i guess its a clear signal against members who participated here with their casino promotion in their sigs.

Any decent DT member can check themself the games and will see it quickly that the alghorytm is not being fair or neutral.

Play 2 minutes poker and you will see it yourself how many times you will have a near full street.

i suppose the funds were escrowed which makes Hhampuz a reliable still.  he manages a lot of campaigns including the long running Bitvest, certainly lightlord wouldn't be giving him that task if he can't be trusted besides i see participants are satisfied with what he is doing.

Most normal, rational, reasonable intelligent people use math/statistics and very large sample sizes to determine if online cheating is occurring.  As an example Ultimate Bet (I will leave you to learn about Ultimate Bet all on your very own).

Most Trolls, retards, morons and agenda driven nut jobz say things like"anyone can see the cards are manufactured"...

You get a 4 on the TS (Troll Scale) from me, I would say you are at best an average mental midget compared to some of the real Trolls round here (like notbatman hes a fucking 10 TS).

Do you even understand what facts mean?
If you do, you wouldn't have said the above sites to be provably "UNfair". Your English and Grammar skills are way too high I need to applaud for you.


Can't comment any more bullshit over the shit you've already spread here, but you remind me of game-protect, a user who abused trust system by giving false trust ratings to members who were enrolled in and promoted betcoin.ag (though the scam accusations were legit, we already left it before the ratings given). This shows how abusive people like you can become when you don't see anyone coming your way to support with your bullshit intention.

The diffrence between me and you is i'm not going to count everything.If i get 10 times a near full street in 2 minutes it says everything.I'm experienced enough to see without counting this is cheating.If you claim something else you can count.Anyone who has experience in poker can test it just 2 minutes and will see it instantly.It doesn't require counting as the scam is so obvious.
But you want math.How big is the possibility that i get during 40 games 10 times a near full street ?Of course yesterday when testing and today again.How big the propability that something like that is going to happen in a fair game system ?
There is a reason there is no license,no company info no physical adress.

You wanna claim its legit  ?Post the owners name and adress here and i will belive it.

All i can see on this threads are people who are benefiting from these kind of websites fighting for their income.

In the real world math>feelings, reality is a lovely place you should try it one day!

Oh, come on. I don't even play poker, and even I know that's more common than a two-pair. There's a reason every "poker for noobs" guide tells you not to chase a straight. ::) If you're even worse at cards than I am, you should stick to roulette instead of blaming casinos for your own stupidity.

Don't worry about my math.Its better than 99% of peoples on this forum where i don't need it to see if something like that is a scam or not.

But i would recommend to check your own principles since they seem to be not suitable for society

You wanna tell its normal to have from 40 games 10 times instantly 4 from 5 cards for a full street ?

Thule, I have only one question: if you want physical addresses and government approval, why are you in crypto?

Knocked out..!
https://i.imgflip.com/2w4qp6.jpg

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His/her intention is to attack Hhampuz,not to save any one from following or falling into any scam sites.

I guess i will have to destroy your false imagination but crypto isn't anonymous and expecially not BTC.
And an online casino is not crypto its only using crypto.If a player wants to be "anonymous" in the way BTC makes it possible i have no problem with it.
But if the operator of that website wants to be anonymous to be able to make ilegal activity by scamming people as thats what its being classified between players when somebody manipulates "fair games"
than thats something totaly diffrent.

Also i'm asking myself why you ask me this kind of question and not other DT members when they attack ICO's for a lack of adress or company information.

Your support seems to be extremly one sided.



I said it before i don't know Hhampuz so i don't care if he has success or not and its nothing personal.
Its only disgusting to see how you defend a scam by trying to change the topic into a personal attack.

When you want to really prove that they were scam sites,just provide some proofs or people will call you as troll.

Nothing personal,I just want to say how you need to handle this.

Its already proofen.
1.no physical adress
2.no company info
3.no license #
4.unnatural high amounts of cards near full street


You can proof anytime one of these 4 points as invalid.

Am still waiting for it.
Haven't seen it and it would just take 2 minutes to do so if i were wrong

Never mind this guy I think he want to be notice because the last time I checked Hhampuz told him to reach out on their ANN thread if he have any questions regarding the company and until now no scam activities was said to have happen through the company.
So what's his stress.

What are you smokin ?When did i ever talked with Hhampuz on any thread on that forum ?

So many false accusations coming now from people with casino signatures.

Imma smokin weed, don't tell me what I did
Don't show ya pity, it's all about anonymity
Ya points are baseless, giving us all too much stress
As electrifying as joule, come everyone let's f*ck Thule

 
FTFY. And come on, even if the vendor chooses to remain behind the scenes but still providing better services, I don't mind playing at their door. If you think it's too much, why not stop even those dark market trades?

I do not trust hhampuz.
The reason for that is quite simply he supports proven liars and trust abusers on DT. That alone is reason enough to doubt him. I do not say he is as bad as some but merely supporting them is enough to create sensible suspicion and caution.

I think Thule does have a clear point here after reading through the thread.

If ico's were demonstrating these clear and obvious ID avoidance tactics they could be presumed "possible" scams.
Many DT's would be slapping red on them and anyone that supported them.

I mean ask yourself what means of retribution would you have if these casinos did scam you?

I observe clear double standards once again. On the one hand they fight against the implementation of criteria that would mean red trust can be applied  ONLY to scammers or  those STRONGLY likely to scam. Rather they are claiming it is too late by then and a preemptive strike against them is required to save people from these "possible" scams.

However, here I notice the same people demanding to see proof of scam before any action or criticism is forthcoming from them. Almost defending the ID avoidance tactics now it suits them.

I say that a "responsible" member would not be promoting nor enabling these types of casinos if they want to take the "preemptive" action they advocate for everyone else and any project they are not making money from.
If they believe innocent until they scam or try to scam then fair enough, but their prior arguments suggest this is clear selfishly motivated double standards.

It all boils down to making some btc dust.

This is not an accusations or what so ever. What I'm trying to point out is that I don't see any reason why you still have to create a thread if your planned was not about creating some drama despite Hhampuz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5111587.msg50162774#msg50162774) respond to your claim. However, crypto community don't mind a project with good record which didn't provide any information than giving false information and I'm saying this because I have seen a ICO project which didn't provide any information but provide good record and the investors are fine with it.

if you guys have a problem with Hhampuz take it out on him not the project he handle.

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When six people agreed with something, what can a single man do to oppose it? When we both know that  majority win vote under majority rule and last time I checked Hhampuz didn't give you any red trust. Why should be blame for the what others did?

Whatever you want to discuss here, I recommend you to use snip, ~snip~, -snip-, ~, < ... >, whatever you want to eliminate un-used part of posts' contents that you want to discuss with.
Only quote exactly part of contents you want to discuss.
It will help to save more space in page and help readers easier to known which points you really want to discuss with posts' authors.

@hulla

If someone does something that is proven untrustworthy and you know this to be the case yet you still promote them or enable them into positions of trust that therefore shows bad character.

This though was just my disclaimer and not really attached to main and relevant part of my post.

The point that I make about the double standards NOT just of Hhampuz but actually more in relation to the noob ass licking trash who oppose waiting for proof of scam or at a minimum a solid case to suggest STRONGLY intention of scam before red trusting who are now claiming there is no proof of scam here.

You either want to wait for proof of scam or else you are going to make preemptive red strikes against those you think are displaying behaviours that suggest they could intend to scam. For instance masking their ID's/addresses to limit and prevent any retribution IF they do scam.

I am of the opinion that one should wait for EVIDENCE or PROOF of scam before giving the scam tag or some behaviour that STRONGLY suggests intent to scam. However hhampuz supports clearly red tagging for merely speaking the truth about his pals as he has openly supported them with his inclusions and also some of his prior posts.

So that's where we are. Double standards, supporting proven liars, proven and self confessed trust abusers, and now working with and supporting/promoting/being paid by "possibly" dubious projects himself.

I mean this is a debate so people are free to make their rebuttals to my posts. I welcome them and any debate on these types of issues.

@CH, again you seem to confuse me with someone who runs around calling out scams and painting accounts red.. This is not me so how is it double standards? My trust list is my business, just as yours is your business.

C'mon Thule stop this non sense.

Even if you were right, why just write about it like some mad kid. Gather data, document it, and PROVE it.

Writting that it has been proven doesn't mean it is. Are you 10 yo?!

You know asche i'm going to document it when i have a bit more time.Remember i don't make a dime out of this forum and need to make some preparations for may which is very soon.

I just would like to know how does it come that you approve double standards ?
I mean DT members had no issues with a group of DT members tagging projects which have no adress no company info or anything and described them because of that as scam.
Here the online casinos which could get easily a company registration on an island are not providing any info at all.They hide 100% .
Why don't you demand the same actions of these DT members like on the other projects ?

I mean if you run with open eyes you can clearly see why they have no company information or license number because they are not running a "fair game" system but are intended to milk their members with unfair games displaying opportunities which in reality are manufactured by their unfair game system.


Why don't you have the same standard here ?

I mean when somebody claims a project is cheating normaly tons of DT's instantly check for evidences.
Here you can see not a single DT even tries to find any evidence since its not in their intention.


The decent DT's on this forum haven't posted a word on this thread which i personly take as a silent confirmation of my opinion.


Or take a global mod from that thread which is supporting these people with actions he is not supposed to do as mod.

One example is i posted the info on Hhampuz campaign that the website is by law ilegal because thats the truth nobody can deny.
Would i post it on any other ico you can bet this statement wouldn't be deleted.
But maybe you can tell me why the post was inappropiote informing people about the website that it has no info at all ?

It's called business protection...

Then you should have waited, and gathered evidence first. Once you do and your evidence is posted, I will be the first to back you.



Or maybe they are just commiting tax evasion, or don't want to do any paper work while still offering a legit and fair game.


Maybe you should have posted in investigation board. People might have looked into you and helped you.

I don't know about the other DT's, for my part I have no time to actually check for it by myself.


Says who?


The law of which country?

I am clearly saying that you are a person who SUPPORTS those that do FAR worse.
Exclude those that do run around painting accounts red for pointing out the fact they are liars then I can take you more seriously.
You openly support in DT some of the most shady individuals here. You also happen to exclude the same persons.

I am not saying you are as bad as they are. However even supporting these types opens you up to criticisms that would otherwise perhaps have no grounding.

If you do NOT support red trusting persons on NON scamming issues then that is different. Please demonstrate this by excluding proven trust abusers and proven liars who go much further and use red trust to silence the truth of their wrong doing being spoken.

Campaign managers are in a very precarious position when you think about this because their behaviour reflects upon 1/ the project and their choice to hire you, 2/ the investors in those projects (if icos I mean any project using someone who openly supports liars, trust abusers, and other such shady events in their history clearly are not doing their research)  3/ the sig spammers who rely on payments.

So any mud that sticks to a campaign manager not only damages them it damages the project that chooses to use them. If projects were made aware of this but still decided to use their services then that could look even worse for them.

I would distance myself from any persons that have observable events in their history that casts them in a very untrustworthy light. I would certainly not be seen to advocate their placement in a trust system and also collude to exclude those persons they exclude.

It is not only the actions you take that reflect upon you, it is also the actions of those that you openly support and seemingly condone on the one hand then wonder why people are questioning your double standards when you seem very willing to wait for proof of scam when it benefits you financially.

Eventually those that seem entrenched in the DT and merit cycle of power will start to lose their grasp on such power and those that thought it prudent to support them will regret it,  that will always be their in their post history.

That laudas cat club thread or whatever (that you started) was funny but i think that club needs to realise they must undo their trust abuse and clean up their act else that club has no future here except to be made pariahs.

Any of the world.

Go to your local police station then.

@Thule if you really want to do something about it, you should just use a whois service and contact abuse@ the domain provider with evidence backing your allegations.

If it is solid enough, sites will get suspended.

Why don't DT members do the same on ICO scams ?But handle it intern in the forum ?
Again diffrent standards ?

DT is not a job. It comes with exactly 0 obligations and duties.

Maybe you should read again how and why someone becomes DT.

Edit: Also there are some DTs and other member of the forum doing exactly THAT.

If you believe this is the right thing to do, stop whining and do it yourself ffs.

I would tagg them but i'm not on default.
If you have an issue beng a DT you can step out any time like Marlborza did.

If you are DT i demand to uphold the same standards on the forum for everyone
I know you are on this forum very short time but let me tell you that forum and crypto was created so every individual would have a guarantee to be treated like anybody else.

You have enough time to post daily but you have not 5 minutes to check my claim.

Shows how legit your posts are

SO you thing people tag only when they are on DT? You missed the whole point of what the trust network is. Why should anyone add YOU to one's trust list if you don't post any feedback.



Never said I had an issue with it.


Demanding is all you seem to do.
When it comes to do something right by your own, you are nowhere to find.


Talking about legit


This is defamation. It shows, again, that you are NOT legit but only yapping around.

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And to set this straight for the 10th time at least.

I am DT1 because

• People think my judgement is good, at least the one used for my posted feedbacks
• My trust list is accurate, and the people I added in it are worth being on DT2

This doesn't mean I have to do extensive research on every user I come accross in the forum.
You should wrap your head around this, and eventually gtfo if you do not like how this place is run.

Let's make some clear points because it seems some soda went up to your head

tagging someone as non DT is like leaving shit.He doesn't care.DT members posted enough times that taggs from regular members can be ignored as they mean shit. POINT


You have each time an issue with that when asked to act appropiote as DT member handling everyone equal which you are clearly like most DT members not doing


I have exposed more real scams than you ever did.What you do is peanuts.I have at least guts and exposed the #3 coin at that time Quark being a scam or Eric GU from Metaverse,Zengold etc scamming his investors for over 10.000 BTC filling police reports taking actions with chinese community and so on.
What did you do ?

Yes i'm talking about legit or can you show me a single person on that forum who claims i cheated on him ?You as DT members have to uphold rules and standards which you clearly arent doing


Defamation is a claim which is not true.Since you claim its defamation show me a single point of mine which is not true



Wrong you are DT1 just because of the people merited you for your actions in the past but not because your judgement is good.I can show people who got nearly 200 merits in a single month and know shit about the forum or its members or standards.You were just lucky to have gained merit where everyone else stated its useless shit.


No you only search on topic where you can get merits like a merit whore.Uncomfortable topics are nothing for you as you could be easily excluded anytime.
Since you joined that topic with your BS here you got some truth about yourself.[/list]


How much time have you already spent on that thread ?You could have checked my claims already 10 times.

11.... definitely a fucking 11 TS (breaks the scale)

Wow you really tick all the boxes for an unsecure narcissist.

Why this compulsive need to compare yourself to others (myself in that case).

I couldn't give a damn that you uncovered a scam in your life. Cool story bro. Thank you for your service. The fact you need to tell everyone every chance you got shows what kind of a person you are.

What do you expect? To be thanked every day of your life for what you did? Grow up man.

You do things because of what you  believe in, not for others admiration or w/e.

I kinda feel pitty for you.

All he wants is attention. He makes baseless accusations against someone to start an arguement. Once they stop replying/lose interest he moves onto the next person. Treat him like a chihuahua, just ignore him and he'll stop barking ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

I can see that thule has made a valid point concerning double standards. I see no possible refutation of that part.

If you can explain how the double standards concern is baseless then I am interested to see what you will present.

Double standards are always worth pointing out since they demonstrate lack of judgement or willful untrustworthy behaviour.

From what I can see Hhampuz is not a trust abuser directly but will still willfully support those that do abuse the trust system. He is more tolerable than the direct abusers themselves but he enables them to abuse so still needs to be held accountable.

If you support those persons on DT that will give out red on a "suspicion" or for a "possible" scam or even just to those that present unpopular facts that happen to be the TRUTH then you behaviour should be judged against those standards.

Why don't you do that?

Go to gambling section and report every unlicensed casino.
Then go to investard based games and report all ponzies.
Then report all tumblers.
Then go to ICO section and report all ICO's which are breaking laws.
Then report all lenders who are breaking laws.
Then go to Bangladesh and report all forum users to police.

Maybe you should just report forum to police?

Well that is exactly the point. Why "report" or red trust any person or project that is not confirmed as a scam or STRONGLY intending to scam.  You can not have it both ways. I mean if you consider a gambling site with no address , no lic, no ID's for the owners not to be likely to scam then fair enough leave them alone. If they have NOT scammed and  you don't consider them not having any contact details available meets the STRONG threshold for intending to scam, then leave them alone and in peace until issues crop up. Perhaps they have other reasons for withholding their ids that are not related to scamming at all.

I say don't poke your nose into peoples business unless they are scammers or strongly intending to scam. DT's running around being all righteous and actively tagging ANYONE they think could "possibly" be thinking of scamming in the distant future should rather be challenging them and questioning them if they must do something on thread, not just giving out red trust on a hunch because the "offending party" demonstrated some behaviour a DT didn't personally approve of for their own selfish reasons.

The point is you can not have it both ways just because it suits you to.

It is quite simple. Who is more likely to scam.

casino1 - has a lic, known IDS of owners, known address of owners all confirmed.
casino2 - nothing known about the owners at all

Casino2 is more likely to scam or one could view it as more risky. However, that does not mean they WILL scam. If they have been functioning for years then perhaps they will not scam at all. Nobody knows. The person using these facilities should do their own DD.

However, if you are willing to go much further than not tagging but actually to help promote casino2 and not flag it or red tag them then you can not go and support DT's that go and red trust on a hunch or some tenuous and pathetically weak sauce case that "possibly" could suggest they may be untrustworthy in the future. You are sanctioning and approving their actions of preemptive scam tagging for their perceived "risk", but then want to allow "high risk" and promote it when it suits you?

I hope you can start to grasp how that is double standards.

Oh that must be the reason why all these exposed ICO's run away, domains suspended, announcement threads deleted and social media accounts removed.

Stop shitposting.

I'm sorry you believe that in anyway answers the question I posed or the situation here. This is why imbeciles must not be merit sources nor DT. They simply do not have the capacity to differentiate between a net positive and net negative post.

How does this in anyway apply to account sellers that are termed "high risk" for scamming? do they all scam?
How does this in anyway apply to people who mistake "scare quotes" for actual quotes when they are mixed in amongst real quotes of what they have said? do they all scam
How does this in anyway relate to people presenting facts regarding wrong doing?

Also I have seen people red trusted for supporting projects that are still running but cast as "possible" scams?


You either wait for PROVEN scams or they demonstrate behaviour that suggests they are STRONGLY likely to scam. Of course there may be multiple signs of icos setting up scams so that would cross the threshold of STRONGLY likely to scam.

Your faux rebuttal only fools imbeciles of your level of intelligence or lower. Stick to debating with those types.

Your problem and most DT's problem is you have zero experience in the ALT section and little experience with the BIGGEST scams. Those setting up a quick exit with multiple signs of scamming are small fry amateurs that would only fool the dumbest and greediest risk takers. You are missing the REALLY damaging scams.

Keep in mind there is a chasm between NOT red trusting them and supporting or promoting.

If you're going to toss some shit at the wall and see what sticks, you at least need to complete your research IMO. You have made this accusation against Hhampuz for 1 reason only. That reason being vengeance. He will not accept you into any campaigns so your mission is to try and smear his reputation.

Finish your research before making a thread.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3539574.msg37018911#msg37018911  Here you see user 5 0.22 BitcoinVideoPoker who runs bitcoinvideocasino winning a slot in theymos auction for ad slots managed by the forum. So essentially shouldn't you include theymos in this thread?

What about all the users who are wearing the signatures for these casinos? The real question is why did you choose to only go after Hhampuz here? Why didn't you include everyone? You have theymos, the designer who made these casinos signature codes or announcement threads, Hhampuz, and the advertisers. The answer is the same as above. You are looking to smear a manager period.

I am not doing the work to check on the other casinos you mentioned in this thread for you. Just posting the above to show that you only post half truths and try to run a smear campaign against members who disagree with you or do not allow you to make a dollar due to your reputation here. Why would anyone want to hire you if they know this is the type of bullshit they have to deal with? What do you do that is positive for the community or for yourself honestly?

Hhampuz has shown he can manage signature campaigns(even though his way of getting clients is illegal https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5113844.0). Other then this particular issue Hhampuz has conducted himself correctly when it comes to the campaigns he manages.

We as managers get messages from potential clients(or message them apparently lol) and the process starts. We do a little research into the casino, exchange, dice site, wallet, etc. If everything looks on the up and up we start the negotiation process and prepare the campaign. Once we start the campaign for a company if the company is involved in the scamming of participants we as managers immediately STOP the campaign. There is no explanation needed to the company except a link to the accusation. We can choose to pause the campaign and give a company time to explain themselves or end the campaign period. It really depends on the issue at hand at this point.

Now, i'm not saying every scam accusation means immediately stop advertising for a company. Look at Fortune Jack. They have many scam accusations against them. Most of the accusations have been from users who tried cheating the casino through multiaccounts or whatever. If a legitimate scam accusation comes up then it is IMPERATIVE that a manager stop any and all advertisement for the casino and go from there.

I have nothing against Hhampuz and I hope he nor anyone else takes offense to everything I've posted here. It is my opinion that Hhampuz is doing a fine job minus his 1 error that he was punished for. It's just like going to jail. He did the crime, and he did the time. He paid his debt and now let's all move on.

BTW welcome to the -9999 club
https://i.imgur.com/9R2vcGN.png

it's safe to assume that most casinos are shady and unethical at best case scenario, but there is a major problem with your "accusation"

I don't know the accused member, don't think i ever interacted with him, but almost every member here promotes Bitcoin, remind of BTC Ltd. address ? or perhaps satoshi license?

Agreed with the very long clarification, so I snipped first part all.
Sooner or later, next several minutes or hours, Thule will jump up to the top 4, the club of -9999 trust points profiles.
https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted
I joined campaigns managed by @Hhampuz, and never got issues with him, both post-checking and time of payments.

You're absolutely right--DT members are a bunch of individual members, not employees of the forum or cypto police, even though some of them do some scam-busting work.  It's not exactly something that's expected of them.

By the way, you'll never be able to reason with Thule or satisfy him with your logic.  He'll just keep shifting the goalposts and ignoring whatever solid arguments you make.  Don't even waste a keyboard stroke on him or cryptohunter trying to explain stuff that they should know (and probably do, but they do love their trollin').

Unlike most people in this thread, my views on issues and disputes do not change based on who is involved.

If you accept the presumption that not having a business license, nor a physical address makes your business untrustworthy, what Thule is advocating for is not outside of the mainstream, in fact some people in this thread who are opposed to what Thule has advocated for have essentially forced (or tired to force via the threat of negative trust) people to stop advertising other untrustworthy businesses, that are actually untrustworthy. I myself have messaged participants of a signature campaign I was running urging people to stop advertising for a business that turned out to be a scam, once it was confirmed it was a scam.

I previously explained (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5120680.msg50163694#msg50163694) why I don't think the lack of a business license makes a casino untrustworthy. There is perhaps a slightly stronger argument that the lack of a physical address makes the casino untrustworthy, however many in the crypto world have scammed whose identities were either public prior to the scam, or were dox'ed after the fact, and there are probably less than 5 who had anything happen to them, so I don't think a "physical address" will do much in terms of player/customer safety.

The argument that Thule is not going after *all* casino's without a license (and other scams in the ponzi section) and therefore his current argument against Hhampuz is a red-herring because he does not have the resources to go after every single scam business, and must use his resources efficiently. Similarly, the fact that Thule is not going to the authorities about these businesses is a distraction because he cannot force law enforcement to go after these businesses, and they may not if the business is not generating enough business to account for using law enforcement's resources, and law enforcement not going after a business is not an excuse for someone supporting said business if they are doing something harmful. Hhampuz is helping businesses referenced in the OP conduct business and generate additional business by running their signature campaigns, and if these businesses are actually doing harmful things to their customers, he should stop doing so as soon as practical.

Any argument other than the referenced businesses are not harming their (potential) customers (or something similar thereto) is invalid, IMO.

I think this rating is one more example of why you are a follower and not a leader. I do not doubt that you will be unwilling (or more likely, unable) to defend this rating in any way if/when anyone tries to call you out on it, or otherwise tries to discuss it with you. Thule calling someone out for helping a company advertise that he says he believes is untrustworthy does not make him a scammer. Any negative ratings given to him for this thread are an attempt to silence him from asking difficult questions -- except in this case, he is not even asking difficult questions (his arguments in this case are not difficult to counter), so perhaps it would not only be a sign of a lack of integrity, but also a lack of intellectual capacity.   

Nice Quote,
Could you mention the duties of DT here?

This seems to be off topic shit-head, go and make your own, your messing up this good-for-nothing thread of the OP (but its somewhat entertaining to see, it consumed my almost an hout time to read all of the 5 paged feedbacks.).

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Have missed the party, sad thing.
Kinda like the last part of feedback of QS.

As I said, stop shitposting and putting everything you can in your post to look like you wrote something meaningful.


Not professional site:
Lies to customers. Gambling, such an easy way to double money, right  ::)

Broken software:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106215.msg50192369#msg50192369
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5106215.msg50197257#msg50197257

Took me exactly 2 minutes to see this.

@Thule maybe next time go directly to announcement thread with some facts? Lazy people  ::)

Please fool that is not a sensible rebuttal to the clear points that I am making.

Of course such a low functioning dreg as yourself would not dare attempt a real debate with me.

Now reread the post again and use your limited capacity to try and grasp the very simple point I am making. Then make a sensible rebuttal. Or just admit you are all double standards dog shit posting sig spammers.

Honestly bring me here now one original thought inspiring post you have ever made on this board so that I can pull it to pieces and laugh at you all over again. You are a maggot and trust abusing piece of dirt supporting others even worse than yourself.

You simply do not have the capacity to even differentiate between a shit post and a hugely net  positive contribution.

Remove your huge sig you dirty spammer before using my valuable contributions to eek out further btc dust you broke ass fool.

Are you always changing topics when you have no more arguments ?


About yahoo ,yeah i love your double standards.How does it come you support DT members who red tag ico scams based on suspision but don't demand from them to tagg their supporters promoters or anything else ?

Of course i could go to police and report all users.You think it would be any trouble to send an email ?
The question is do i want to harm people or do i want to warn people.

I know your intention is always to harm competition but my intention is to warn people.

Promoting these sites are ilegal.I informed about it on Hhampuz campaign threads which got deleted by a Mod (I guess Hellfish) .So tell me why are my legit warnings to bitcointalk members that promoting ilegal websites are ilegal being deleted by a forum Mod ?

Did i made a false statement ?Is warning members about ilegal activities not appropiate at that forum when its being run by a small known group on that forum ?

And to your other stupid attacks i will come back tonight.

You want me to report everything ?No problem like i offered Hhampuz give me your personal details and i will report everything which is ilegal.No big deal if you are asking for it.


And for your stupid question YES i have already accused theymos to be ignorant and he is very well aware of it.
I guess soon when i will post proof that members here get cheated by these casinos as they are in majority not fair games theymos will have no other choice than to change his point of view as i doubt he will promote any known scams (as i consider non fair games as scams on the players like the whole gambling community)


And for a personal note yahoo.I'm going now to inform any of your campaign owner that you support uncontrolled gambling which contributes to the endless shittyness and scams on this forum.
I guess its a fair action since you also supported the same words about me trying to buy an account for a friend to be able to post images.


Its funny you demand tagging account buyers even they are not proofen scammers and at the same time demand from casinos with no physical adress,company info or license # to be only tagged if they really scam even the predepostion to do so is way higher than when buying an account on that forum.

You see it took him 2 minutes



Nice to see that my judgement didn't failed me which DT members i consider decent.

That is not going to happen. I am not interested to read your rants again. Stay focused on this part:

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Actually I am not interested in playing chess with pigeon  :D

Not interested in reading. Not interested in debating because too scared. Okay moronbozo.

Hhampuz has demonstrated to me recently his desire to reform his rating behavior to be more logic and evidence based rather than emotionally based as is the standard for some around here. Out of anyone who leaves frivolous ratings, he is near the very bottom of the list of people that are causing real problems. While I disagree with many of the people he deems trustworthy here, there are far better people to focus on than Hhampuz.

I am of the opinion he doesn't deserve this kind of treatment even if the point about a double standard may be completely valid. Learn to pick your battles instead of just striking out at people randomly. Or just write pages upon pages of indiscriminate condemnation of everyone and you can and continue to be ignored. Either one.

That is your opinion and if you find it valid then that is fine by me.

the way i see it

1. Hhampuz enables others to trust abuse and colludes to exclude the same members from DT as those trust abusers
2. Hhampuz demonstrates very clear double standards as I have described.
3. The only criticisms that I can see are those that are deserving and appropriate
a/ the enabling of trust abusers
b/ the double standards.
4/ This is not random.
5/ This is not indiscriminate.


I agree he is not the most potent of the dirt bags here nor should he be a PRIMARY focus ideally. However, since those that should be receiving the most attention are now pretty much entrenched within the broken systems of control because of the actions of those like Hhampuz, then those supporting are best dealt with first. |Perhaps chipping at the support of those fully entrenched is not entirely without merit.

Until he excludes those that are trust abusers and therefore STOPS sanctioning/enabling their actions he must be held to the same standards he approves of others being held to.

Campaign managers are in a very precarious position. It is important to distance themselves from any UNTRUSTWORTHY persons or their actions.

I'm going to lock that thread.
@Hhampuz i really do belive these casinos have no fair system and would like to ask to not promote casinos with doubtfull practice no matter what reputation they have.
I received here always the claim of provably fair system.
I think we can agree that majority of users are not updating their clientseed every game which makes it open to casinos to predict the clientseed numbers and be able to create results they desire.
It would be at least an explanation why i got so many times instantly a nearly full street.



Also the request to involve legal authorities if i think its ilegal is something i deny.I do not wanna harm people but i also don't won't others to get cheated.Hunting and reporting these people to authorities would be  easily.
Also i guess FJ has been proofen to be a scam when forcing to accept the reduction of affiliates commission from 25% to 10% on old customers without their consent.

Of course FJ won't get tagged for that scam only people who are a week late with a loan repayment or anybody else.


I hope some DT members think about it and seeing the growth of decent DT members here on the forum makes me feel happy.