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Economy => Investor-based games => Topic started by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 12:46:58 PM



Title: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 12:46:58 PM
Could we just report them to there server, and/or host?  I got the idea from reading a post on http://www.badbitcoin.org/badlist/index.htm

"The Bitcoinchef scam has now been taken down - Thanks to your reports, we got the hosts to take it down. Careful - This guy has more than one scam going, we're on the case. 06/03/14"

Get a list of the hosts and start mass emailing them, if the forum will not do nothing to stop this crap maybe we can circumvent it.

****New step report them to
http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx
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admin@inernetbs.net
COINPAYOFF.COM
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btc-arbs.com
http://www.enom.com/help/abusepolicy.aspx
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Direct link to report weeklyponzi.com
http://www.enom.com/help/abusepolicy.aspx

big.weeklyponzi.com
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PONZICOIN.CO
support@netim.com

CUT and Paste email to make it easy
Dear, netim.com
       You have a domain that is hosting a illegal ponzi scheme which is illegal in most of the world I would like to ask you to take it down.
                              Thank you for your time
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http://ponzimatic.net/
support@netim.com

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Dear, netim.com
       You have a domain that is hosting a illegal ponzi scheme which is illegal in most of the world we would like to ask you to take it down.
                              Thank you for your time
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godbtc.net

http://support.moniker.com
Toll free in the U.S. and Canada: 800-688-6311
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The List of Ponzi shills.
If you take advice from these people your gonna have a bad time mmmkay.

Spixel - Insists its ok to run ponzi scams because their just scam games.
howzar - just your average shill, cant argue just agrees with other shills.
williamj2543 - Insists its ok to run ponzi scams because their just scam games. Attempts to like gambling to investing in a ponzi.
apsvinet - Scammer, liar, opponent of free speech, all in all a nasty piece of work.
jontstaz - Pretty sure he runs weekly ponzi due to the responses he has on there threads


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 12:51:03 PM
This is both for mini.ponzicoin.com & Ponzicoin.com

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Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 12:52:03 PM
Quit being a doofus.


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 12:58:02 PM
Domain Name: ponzimatic.net
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Updated Date: 2014-03-04T20:32:42Z
Creation Date: 2014-03-05T00:00:00Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-03-05T21:00:00Z
Registrar: NETIM
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Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 01:23:07 PM
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Registrant Name: J Campy
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Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 01:26:01 PM
This is for both big weeklyponzi and weeklyponzi

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Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 01:27:50 PM
This is a gambling forum not 'report a site forum'

Also why are you not listing sites such as leancy which actually try to deceive?

Would it be because you just want to take action against forum members to try get a response from them?


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 01:30:22 PM
You got me pegged guy  ::), why such a die hard protector of ponzi? got something to lose?


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 01:31:26 PM
You got me pegged guy  ::), why such a die hard protector of ponzi? got something to lose?

I wasn't a 'die hard protector of ponzis' until people showed up posting crap like this thread in the gambling forum accusing anyone and everyone of being a scammer if they run a ponzi game or take part in one.

And no, I have nothing to lose.

I've played these ponzi games only 5 times and got paid 5 times. Yes they are definitely a scam.


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: jontstaz on March 15, 2014, 01:34:00 PM
You got me pegged guy  ::), why such a die hard protector of ponzi? got something to lose?

I wasn't a 'die hard protector of ponzis' until people showed up posting crap like this thread in the gambling forum.

And no, I have nothing to lose.

Exactly. While most ponzis here are blatant scams hosted on free hosting and domains like wix and whatnot, there are many that are legitimate and there is a good chance you can profit from them. What you actually need to be careful of are sites which don't admit to being a ponzi scheme like leancy, roinvest, btc arbs, and all other hyips that promise a payout to everyone.


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 01:35:23 PM
You got me pegged guy  ::), why such a die hard protector of ponzi? got something to lose?

I wasn't a 'die hard protector of ponzis' until people showed up posting crap like this thread in the gambling forum.

And no, I have nothing to lose.

Exactly. While most ponzis here are blatant scams hosted on free hosting and domains like wix and whatnot, there are many that are legitimate and there is a good chance you can profit from them. What you actually need to be careful of are sites which don't admit to being a ponzi scheme like leancy, roinvest, btc arbs, and all other hyips that promise a payout to everyone.

Finally, someone with a brain.


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: Parks56 on March 15, 2014, 01:35:34 PM
This might actually work specially with "GoDaddy" host one.
 I think there should be a section of ponzi and not in the gambling section but regarding there presence, that's up to ""investors"" to decide.


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 01:38:54 PM
I agree give them a subsection,but since the admin of this site as seen fit to not do nothing to move them.

Haveing Ponzi's, HYIP's, and other such scams in the same section as gambling, clouds peoples minds and judgments who are new to the bitcoin world.

IT IS HORRIBLE FOR THE FACE OF BITCOIN


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 01:42:04 PM
I agree give them a subsection,but since the admin of this site as seen fit to not do nothing to move them.

Haveing Ponzi's, HYIP's, and other such scams in the same section as gambling, clouds peoples minds and judgments who are new to the bitcoin world.

IT IS HORRIBLE FOR THE FACE OF BITCOIN


If you think they're okay and just need a subsection why would you want to report the operator to their website host for 'illegal activies' and potentially cause them alot of trouble.

This it the kind of ruthless action that's horrible for the face of bitcoin. Bitcoin is about letting YOU be in control of your money, we don't need to be policed by a couple of forum members.

I'm having fun playing some of these ponzi games. Won 5/5 so far. Was going to deposit in some others but after examining the deposit patterns decided not to, and was right because they ended/reset soon after. Why are you trying to ruin my fun?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: ionux on March 15, 2014, 01:48:37 PM
Riverboat, keep up the good work, man.  Legit gambling sites are welcome.  Scams are not.  Ponzi anything are scams.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: cudjex on March 15, 2014, 01:50:40 PM
Free market...

Let him learn some experiences..
--
And first, please save the 770k BTC from MtGox if you are looking for a hobby.

And then you can cry like a baby about Ponzi sites.


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 01:54:38 PM
Spixel get over it already I do not care about your personal standpoint, and the majority of the forum members will disagree with you.

Thank you ionux



Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 01:56:47 PM
Spixel get over it already I do not care for you personal standpoint, and the majority of the forum members will disagree with you.

Thank you ionux


Prove the majority of forum members agree with you, then I'll stop saying you're wrong. You're just making that up.

I see a small handful of people complaining about ponzis here, but I see hundreds of people playing them.

This thread is all about your personal standpoint so quit pretending its for the 'greater good'


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: cudjex on March 15, 2014, 02:01:26 PM
Prove the majority of forum members agree with you, then I'll stop saying you're wrong. You're just making that up.

I see a small handful of people complaining about ponzis here, but I see hundreds of people playing them.

+1

I do not like ponzis very much but I will like it if a few people continue to cry and scream all over the forum.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 02:02:28 PM
Its the operator recycling coins lmfao someone traced them and posted the results in one of the forum thread.

Just keep mooing with the heard of ponziers, people tried warn people about MT.Gox people tried to warn people about BCST but the herd just MOOOOO's and does not care as long as they get paid until.


http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20130209022103/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/f/f0/And_its_gone_original.jpg


Then all the tears start to fall


Title: Re: Idea to combat ponzi's
Post by: jontstaz on March 15, 2014, 02:05:23 PM
Prove the majority of forum members agree with you, then I'll stop saying you're wrong. You're just making that up.

I see a small handful of people complaining about ponzis here, but I see hundreds of people playing them.

+1

I do not like ponzis very much but I will like it if a few people continue to cry and scream all over the forum.

+2

Ponzis are just like any other gambling game in this section. I don't see why it should be treated as anything else. Why doesnt OP cry about dice games, casinos, mine games and so on? Ponzis are gambling too, simple as that.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 02:08:13 PM
these guys have not been around long enough to understand what these types of business do to bitcoins image. Arguing with people who have been around for less then a year to see the evolution of bitcoin is pointless.

The evolution of bitcoin does not take place in the gambling section of bitcointalk.org



Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 02:08:34 PM
Do not think you understand what a ponzi is lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 02:10:29 PM
Do not think you understand what a ponzi is lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

I know full well what a ponzi is, and these ponzi games do not fit the bill. I guess some people just can't see past a name.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 02:11:31 PM
Nope love debating with you, keep this post to the top :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: jontstaz on March 15, 2014, 02:12:31 PM
Do not think you understand what a ponzi is lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

Yes everyone knows. What is your point? The ponzis you are warning people of CLEARLY state that they are ponzi schemes and henceforth the users take the calculated risk of investing. As mentioned earlier, this is just another form of gambling therefore  they are advertised in this section quite rightly.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 02:16:54 PM
You debating why you feel ponzi's are right is not going to stop me from doing this so stop wasting your time here. Unless your going to call contact the server/hoster of the sites lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 02:17:25 PM
Do not think you understand what a ponzi is lol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme

Yes everyone knows. What is your point? The ponzis you are warning people of CLEARLY state that they are ponzi schemes and henceforth the users take the calculated risk of investing. As mentioned earlier, this is just another form of gambling therefore  they are advertised in this section quite rightly.

Yep

Definition of ponzi
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment

Definition of fraud
Fraud is a deception

These ponzi games are not deceptive so they are not real ponzis.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 02:20:46 PM
You debating why you feel ponzi's are right is not going to stop me from doing this so stop wasting your time here. Unless your going to call contact the server/hoster of the sites lol

Couldn't you be doing something more constructive, like maybe making sure your threads are posted in the correct forum.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 02:22:00 PM
Yup sure could but I have choose to do this  :P


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 02:22:48 PM
Yup sure could but I have choose to do this  :P

Have fun :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 02:24:50 PM
I am don't worry, ponzi be gone


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: jontstaz on March 15, 2014, 02:28:29 PM
If you still sport the mindset that these "ponzis" are breaching the law after reading what spixel said then you are an absolute class act. I marvel at your persistance throughout this fruitless endeavour. :

"Definition of ponzi
A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment

Definition of fraud
Fraud is a deception

These ponzi games are not deceptive so they are not real ponzis."


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 02:32:14 PM
Away with you shill


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 02:37:06 PM
Direct link  to report weeklyponzi.com

http://www.enom.com/help/abusepolicy.aspx


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 02:40:54 PM
Report ponzicoin.co

PONZICOIN.CO
support@netim.com

CUT and Paste email to make it easy
Dear, netim.com
       You have a domain that is hosting a illegal ponzi scheme which is illegal in most of the world we would like to ask you to take it down.
                              Thank you for your time


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: williamj2543 on March 15, 2014, 02:43:37 PM
All this forum is is butthurt people that invested their live savings later in a round of a ponzi and lost it all.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: ionux on March 15, 2014, 02:46:04 PM
The arguments for Ponzi scams are supported by nothig more than semantics at this point.  The people that support Ponzi schemes call them "games" because they claim to have full knowledge of what the definition of a Ponzi scheme is, but choose to send money to them anyway.  It doesn't really matter what they are called or how many people support them.  A scam is a scam.  You can call it a "game" but supporting them only encourages more.  The gambling aspect is that you don't really know when the operator is going to stop paying people out.  You're gambling that the money you risk will be paid back.  It wouldn't be a gamble if they were always paid back every single time.  However that is the aspect of Ponzi scams that is unsustainable.  At some point payouts will stop and the Ponzi scam operator will abscond with the funds.

In that regard, it's not a victimless crime - and make no mistake, stealing someone's money is illegal everywhere.  So it's not fun or cute to support a scam that is built upon an unsustainable model that eventually,  and always, steals money from someone else.  I can't believe this even has to be explained that stealing is wrong.  Even if you have profited from it or you personally haven't been stolen from (yet) supporting Ponzi scams, it is still absolutely intrinsically wrong.  To argue the opposite is to argue from an incorrect perspective.  QED.



Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 02:50:45 PM
The arguments for Ponzi scams are supported by nothig more than semantics at this point.  The people that support Ponzi schemes call them "games" because they claim to have full knowledge of what the definition of a Ponzi scheme is, but choose to send money to them anyway.  It doesn't really matter what they are called or how many people support them.  A scam is a scam.  You can call it a "game" but supporting them only encourages more.  The gambling aspect is that you don't really know when the operator is going to stop paying people out.  You're gambling that the money you risk will be paid back.  It wouldn't be a gamble if they were always paid back every single time.  However that is the aspect of Ponzi scams that is unsustainable.  At some point payouts will stop and the Ponzi scam operator will abscond with the funds.

In that regard, it's not a victimless crime - and make no mistake, stealing someone's money is illegal everywhere.  So it's not fun or cute to support a scam that is built upon an unsustainable model that eventually,  and always, steals money from someone else.  I can't believe this even has to be explained that stealing is wrong.  Even if you have profited from it or you personally haven't been stolen from (yet) supporting Ponzi scams, it is still absolutely intrinsically wrong.  To argue the opposite is to argue from an incorrect perspective.  QED.



This is all fine and dandy, now can you prove that all 'ponzi scam operators' will run away with the funds since that is what you seem to be basing your opinions on.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 03:01:30 PM
The arguments for Ponzi scams are supported by nothig more than semantics at this point.  The people that support Ponzi schemes call them "games" because they claim to have full knowledge of what the definition of a Ponzi scheme is, but choose to send money to them anyway.  It doesn't really matter what they are called or how many people support them.  A scam is a scam.  You can call it a "game" but supporting them only encourages more.  The gambling aspect is that you don't really know when the operator is going to stop paying people out.  You're gambling that the money you risk will be paid back.  It wouldn't be a gamble if they were always paid back every single time.  However that is the aspect of Ponzi scams that is unsustainable.  At some point payouts will stop and the Ponzi scam operator will abscond with the funds.

In that regard, it's not a victimless crime - and make no mistake, stealing someone's money is illegal everywhere.  So it's not fun or cute to support a scam that is built upon an unsustainable model that eventually,  and always, steals money from someone else.  I can't believe this even has to be explained that stealing is wrong.  Even if you have profited from it or you personally haven't been stolen from (yet) supporting Ponzi scams, it is still absolutely intrinsically wrong.  To argue the opposite is to argue from an incorrect perspective.  QED.



Very well said


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 03:03:01 PM


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Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 03:07:20 PM
The arguments for Ponzi scams are supported by nothig more than semantics at this point.  The people that support Ponzi schemes call them "games" because they claim to have full knowledge of what the definition of a Ponzi scheme is, but choose to send money to them anyway.  It doesn't really matter what they are called or how many people support them.  A scam is a scam.  You can call it a "game" but supporting them only encourages more.  The gambling aspect is that you don't really know when the operator is going to stop paying people out.  You're gambling that the money you risk will be paid back.  It wouldn't be a gamble if they were always paid back every single time.  However that is the aspect of Ponzi scams that is unsustainable.  At some point payouts will stop and the Ponzi scam operator will abscond with the funds.

In that regard, it's not a victimless crime - and make no mistake, stealing someone's money is illegal everywhere.  So it's not fun or cute to support a scam that is built upon an unsustainable model that eventually,  and always, steals money from someone else.  I can't believe this even has to be explained that stealing is wrong.  Even if you have profited from it or you personally haven't been stolen from (yet) supporting Ponzi scams, it is still absolutely intrinsically wrong.  To argue the opposite is to argue from an incorrect perspective.  QED.



Very well said

Not really, notice how he hasn't replied to my question.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: williamj2543 on March 15, 2014, 03:08:03 PM
The arguments for Ponzi scams are supported by nothig more than semantics at this point.  The people that support Ponzi schemes call them "games" because they claim to have full knowledge of what the definition of a Ponzi scheme is, but choose to send money to them anyway.  It doesn't really matter what they are called or how many people support them.  A scam is a scam.  You can call it a "game" but supporting them only encourages more.  The gambling aspect is that you don't really know when the operator is going to stop paying people out.  You're gambling that the money you risk will be paid back.  It wouldn't be a gamble if they were always paid back every single time.  However that is the aspect of Ponzi scams that is unsustainable.  At some point payouts will stop and the Ponzi scam operator will abscond with the funds.

In that regard, it's not a victimless crime - and make no mistake, stealing someone's money is illegal everywhere.  So it's not fun or cute to support a scam that is built upon an unsustainable model that eventually,  and always, steals money from someone else.  I can't believe this even has to be explained that stealing is wrong.  Even if you have profited from it or you personally haven't been stolen from (yet) supporting Ponzi scams, it is still absolutely intrinsically wrong.  To argue the opposite is to argue from an incorrect perspective.  QED.


Are you mental? A ponzi doesn't mean the owner HAS to run away, it means (this is from dictionary.com):    a fraudulent investment operation that pays quick returns to initial contributors using money from subsequent contributors rather than profit
It doesn't mean its a scam, it means that earlier people get paid more. It is exactly the same risk of a bitcoin gambling website. When a gambling website turns out to be a scam, people call it a scam, even though it worked out in the beginning, and maybe promising a little bonus for the first couple people, and everyone gets mad and goes crazy, even the people that weren't even part of it. When a ponzi game website turns out to be a scam, the people that were scammed are still mad, but the people who weren't just laugh.
The point of games like these with new rounds, its a game where you have to try to invest first, and the first 75% of people win the game. I have been part of the last 25%, so I have given my money back to the community, but I have been mostly part of the 75%, about 75% of the time.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 03:08:53 PM
Becuase he does not respond to your questions its not wells said  ::)

Mooo shill mooo



Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 03:15:24 PM
Becuase he does not respond to your questions its not wells said  ::)

Mooo shill mooo



Ponzi hater #1-  "Ponzi r scam!!! I hate ponzi!!! ILLEGAL !!!!!!!!!111one"
You- "Yes I AGREE!!!!"

Ponzi hater #2-  "I like turtles"
You- "Well said my ponzi hate friend, I didn't even read what you said but I like it because you are ponzi hater"


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 03:16:55 PM
I do like turtles


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: ionux on March 15, 2014, 03:33:45 PM
Are you mental?
Ad hominem

[...] it means (this is from dictionary.com):    a fraudulent investment operation that pays quick returns to initial contributors using money from subsequent contributors rather than profit
It doesn't mean its a scam...
Reductio ad absurdum


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 03:47:31 PM
Are you mental?
Ad hominem

[...] it means (this is from dictionary.com):    a fraudulent investment operation that pays quick returns to initial contributors using money from subsequent contributors rather than profit
It doesn't mean its a scam...
Reductio ad absurdum

Translation - I know I'm wrong so instead of a real response I'll just post some latin phrases.

Adversus solem ne loquitor


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: williamj2543 on March 15, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
Are you mental?
Ad hominem

[...] it means (this is from dictionary.com):    a fraudulent investment operation that pays quick returns to initial contributors using money from subsequent contributors rather than profit
It doesn't mean its a scam...
Reductio ad absurdum

Translation - I know I'm wrong so instead of a real response I'll just post some latin phrases.

Adversus solem ne loquitor
Lol ^


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RGBKey on March 15, 2014, 04:47:34 PM
Accuses other people of running scams, runs scam himself. GG riverboat. Where is the provable fairness?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 04:56:20 PM
Find it its there, sheeple


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: ionux on March 15, 2014, 05:38:00 PM
Adversus solem ne loquitor

The irony, it burns...

The reason I didn't respond to you earlier is that it has obviously been pointless to convince you that stealing is wrong.  I hope that you come to understand that one day.  But, in any event, there's your response.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 05:52:11 PM
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Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 05:54:10 PM
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Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 05:57:24 PM
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Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 06:06:15 PM
Adversus solem ne loquitor

The irony, it burns...

The reason I didn't respond to you earlier is that it has obviously been pointless to convince you that stealing is wrong.  I hope that you come to understand that one day.  But, in any event, there's your response.

I agree with you that stealing is wrong but there is no evidence that these ponzi operators all plan to run off with the money, they don't need to as they charge a fee.

If someone was operating a feeless one then I'd agree with you. I'd also agree with what you said if it was regarding HYIP's such as leancy as they are very deceptive, but not with sites such as ponzicoin.com , weeklyponzi.com + ponzimatic.net which are the ones being accused of fraud in this thread.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 06:21:31 PM
Weeklyponzi website is now offline. If this is because of RiverBoatBTC's reporting I hope he understands he is compromising lots of peoples deposits (including mine)

I hope you will refund everyone if it turns out to be your fault :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 06:35:17 PM
Why was it taken offline if it was legal and just a game? Answer me that? ???
What Responsibility do I have to anyone it is not I who held the coins....


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- Shill list inside as well
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 06:40:04 PM
Why was it taken offline if it was legal and just a game? Answer me that? ???
What Responsibility do I have to anyone it is not I who held the coins....

Maybe because you told them its illegal? It obviously isn't but perhaps the host doesn't know that.

It is you who made the bullshit reports possibly causing loss of coins. There was about 50 people or more still waiting payment now you just ruined it for them (if its offline because of the report, can't know for sure yet)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 1 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Kyraishi on March 15, 2014, 06:42:30 PM
Good job river, but goodnluck with taking them all down


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 1 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 06:43:50 PM
 not my problem  :-[
Thanks kyraishi


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 1 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 06:45:47 PM
not my problem  :-[
Thanks kyraishi


It is your problem, you reported the website when they did nothing wrong. Everyone was happy with how weeklyponzi was running even people who lost. Now you might have spoiled it for everyone, prepare yourself for lots of enemies :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 1 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 06:49:37 PM
 :'(

http://memecrunch.com/meme/16WRD/oh-noooo/image.png


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 1 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 06:52:01 PM

I am reporting riverboat. Lets see if you like it :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 06:54:58 PM
Go for gold :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 06:58:11 PM
Go for gold :)

I'm only joking, I'm not as cruel as you.

If it turns out it was caused by the report though and it causes people to have lost lots of BTC , I wont be so forgiving.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 07:00:07 PM
Oh my not so forgiving what do you plan to do attack my pixels? My pixels are way stronger then yours!


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 07:05:04 PM
Oh my not so forgiving what do you plan to do attack my pixels? My pixels are way stronger then yours!

I'm done here. Have fun reporting all these ponzis, but don't start thinking what you're doing is right, because it isn't.

You are just causing problems, I think these kind of actions would deserve a permanent ban from this forum. Sabotaging legitimate gambling threads and affecting many other bitcointalk users.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 07:08:03 PM
Tell it to the theymos  :'( sure he would love to hear all about it  ::)
But in general like I said before no one cares what you feel about anything, so suck it ponzi boy... I WIN whomp whomp whahahahaha


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 07:09:20 PM
Tell it to the theymos  :'( sure he would love to hear all about it  ::)
But in general like I said before no one cares what you feel about anything, so suck it ponzi boy... I WIN whomp whomp whahahahaha

How old are you?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 07:13:54 PM
How old are you?  :D


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 07:18:01 PM
How old are you?  :D

Older than you, that's for sure. Your behaviour is childlike, grow up.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: tsm0 on March 15, 2014, 07:23:22 PM
You are just loser. If you are behind this, its just sad. You made people lose their bitcoins and of course they will now all end up in the pockets of the ohh so evil admin of the site. Well you foresaw it, but this was just a dirty act. How do you justify that you make people lose their coins? Sure, I was prepared to lose them but not like this. I only lost 0.00120054 btc but that was all I had. Ive been clicking on ads for about a month to get them. All to get a chance how to learn to transfer and follow coin flow on blockchain. I don´t think I will click around for another month to get this experience again. That someone decides to take down a site because they think it is wrong.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 07:30:32 PM
You are just loser. If you are behind this, its just sad. You made people lose their bitcoins and of course they will now all end up in the pockets of the ohh so evil admin of the site. Well you foresaw it, but this was just a dirty act. How do you justify that you make people lose their coins? Sure, I was prepared to lose them but not like this. I only lost 0.00120054 btc but that was all I had. Ive been clicking on ads for about a month to get them. All to get a chance how to learn to transfer and follow coin flow on blockchain. I don´t think I will click around for another month to get this experience again. That someone decides to take down a site because they think it is wrong.

Really you just signed up yesterday... take your sockpuppet ass on.

Good you should not support ponzi's


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: tsm0 on March 15, 2014, 07:32:40 PM
So what if i signed up yesterday? You never signed up for a gambling license in netherlands where your server is hosted....


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 07:33:42 PM
Report me then lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: tsm0 on March 15, 2014, 07:39:35 PM
Report me then lol

I´ll leave that for someone else.

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Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 07:41:22 PM
ooooo fancy lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 07:43:50 PM
How old are you?  :D

Older than you, that's for sure. Your behaviour is childlike, grow up.

I don't wanna grow up I'm a toys r us kid
there's a million toys at toys r us that i can play with
from bikes and planes to video games
I just wanna be a toys r us kid    8)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Allow on March 15, 2014, 08:01:55 PM
LOOOOOL u have an illegal site, a gambling site without a gambling license (so out of control) and YOU report ponzis? xD

So epic...xD

AHHH and accept also REAL MONEY lol, you risk jail, really. ;)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: boumalo on March 15, 2014, 08:05:14 PM
Did you successfully close 2 down?

It will be hard for the other ones because they are probably registered with servers that don't care?

I have mixed feelings bc I have been playing ponzis here and I lost and got sc.ammed as well (bitrichnow, bit4max), I feel like they can be gambling games but it is very shady and sometimes deceptive when advertised as an investment


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:07:34 PM
LOOOOOL u have an illegal site, a gambling site without a gambling license (so out of control) and YOU report ponzis? xD

So epic...xD

AHHH and accept also REAL MONEY lol, you risk jail, really. ;)

I am scared really, you got me hiding  ::)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 08:09:59 PM
Did you successfully close 2 down?

It will be hard for the other ones because they are probably registered with servers that don't care?

I have mixed feelings bc I have been playing ponzis here and I lost and got sc.ammed as well (bitrichnow, bit4max), I feel like they can be gambling games but it is very shady and sometimes deceptive when advertised as an investment

Only weeklyponzi is down, we don't know for sure if its because of the report.

I'm a little annoyed cause I just deposited with weeklyponzi :( Clearly the OP doesn't care about anyone else , just has his own agenda.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:11:41 PM
dont forget big.weeklyponzi as well :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Allow on March 15, 2014, 08:13:27 PM
Only weeklyponzi is down, we don't know for sure if its because of the report.

No obv xD


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 08:14:07 PM
dont forget big.weeklyponzi as well :)

It's the same website. Only 1 is down.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: boumalo on March 15, 2014, 08:14:16 PM
Did you successfully close 2 down?

It will be hard for the other ones because they are probably registered with servers that don't care?

I have mixed feelings bc I have been playing ponzis here and I lost and got sc.ammed as well (bitrichnow, bit4max), I feel like they can be gambling games but it is very shady and sometimes deceptive when advertised as an investment

Only weeklyponzi is down, we don't know for sure if its because of the report.

I'm a little annoyed cause I just deposited with weeklyponzi :( Clearly the OP doesn't care about anyone else , just has his own agenda.

The title says 2down

MakeBTC was down and the log in doesn't seem to work atm


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 08:15:09 PM
Did you successfully close 2 down?

It will be hard for the other ones because they are probably registered with servers that don't care?

I have mixed feelings bc I have been playing ponzis here and I lost and got sc.ammed as well (bitrichnow, bit4max), I feel like they can be gambling games but it is very shady and sometimes deceptive when advertised as an investment

Only weeklyponzi is down, we don't know for sure if its because of the report.

I'm a little annoyed cause I just deposited with weeklyponzi :( Clearly the OP doesn't care about anyone else , just has his own agenda.

The title says 2down

MakeBTC was down and the log in doesn't seem to work atm

It is just a different page on weeklyponzi, big.weeklyponzi , that is down. OP wants to make his 'achievement' appear better than it actually is.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:15:59 PM
You keep say your done here why do you keep coming back to comment ponzi boy?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Allow on March 15, 2014, 08:18:36 PM
I´ll leave that for someone else.

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And remember, ponzis accept only cryptocoin, YOU accept also REAL MONEY. ;)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 08:18:53 PM
You keep say your done here why do you keep coming back to comment ponzi boy?

I said it once, and I'm just replying to other people. I'm done replying to you here cause you're an idiot.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:20:00 PM
You keep say your done here why do you keep coming back to comment ponzi boy?

I said it once, and I'm just replying to other people. I'm done replying to you here cause you're an idiot.

awwie someone is butt hurt  :'( :-\


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: jayc89 on March 15, 2014, 08:31:20 PM
I´ll leave that for someone else.

riverboatbitcoin.com   IN   A   94.75.199.221   1200s   (20m)

94.75.199.221 is from Netherlands(NL) in region Western Europe

TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 94.75.199.221 [hosted-by.leaseweb.com]
15      116      116      116         94.75.199.221     hosted-by.leaseweb.com 
Trace complete

RiverBoatBTC's Illegal site

And remember, ponzis accept only cryptocoin, YOU accept also REAL MONEY. ;)


Report it to the registrar - abuse@ahnames.com
And the hosting company - http://www.leaseweb.com/en/about-us/contact


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:33:43 PM
Please do lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Allow on March 15, 2014, 08:42:12 PM
I´ll leave that for someone else.

riverboatbitcoin.com   IN   A   94.75.199.221   1200s   (20m)

94.75.199.221 is from Netherlands(NL) in region Western Europe

TraceRoute from Network-Tools.com to 94.75.199.221 [hosted-by.leaseweb.com]
15      116      116      116         94.75.199.221     hosted-by.leaseweb.com 
Trace complete

RiverBoatBTC's Illegal site

And remember, ponzis accept only cryptocoin, YOU accept also REAL MONEY. ;)


Report it to the registrar - abuse@ahnames.com
And the hosting company - http://www.leaseweb.com/en/about-us/contact

And here: http://www.egba.eu/about-us/contact-the-egba/


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:44:06 PM
I promise you, doing any of this will not affect me in the least bit :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:46:22 PM
Report here  admin@inernetbs.net

Domain Name: COINPAYOFF.COM
Registry Domain ID: 1849833246_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.internet.bs
Registrar URL: http://www.internetbs.net
Updated Date: 2014-03-15T03:14:34Z
Creation Date: 2014-03-10T09:29:39Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-03-10T09:29:39Z
Registrar: Internet.bs Corp.
Registrar IANA ID: 814
Registrar Abuse Contact Email:
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone:
Reseller:
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID:
Registrant Name: Domain Administrator
Registrant Organization: Fundacion Private Whois
Registrant Street: Attn: coinpayoff.com, Aptds. 0850-00056
Registrant City: Panama
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code: Zona 15
Registrant Country: PA
Registrant Phone: +507.65967959
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email:
Registry Admin ID:
Admin Name: Domain Administrator
Admin Organization: Fundacion Private Whois
Admin Street: Attn: coinpayoff.com, Aptds. 0850-00056
Admin City: Panama
Admin State/Province:
Admin Postal Code: Zona 15
Admin Country: PA
Admin Phone: +507.65967959
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email:
Registry Tech ID:
Tech Name: Domain Administrator
Tech Organization: Fundacion Private Whois
Tech Street: Attn: coinpayoff.com, Aptds. 0850-00056
Tech City: Panama
Tech State/Province:
Tech Postal Code: Zona 15
Tech Country: PA
Tech Phone: +507.65967959
Tech Phone Ext:
Tech Fax:
Tech Fax Ext:
Tech Email:
Name Server: ns1.carbon2u.com
Name Server: ns2.carbon2u.com
DNSSEC: unsigned
URL of the ICANN WHOIS Data Problem Reporting System: http://wdprs.interni


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: zolace on March 15, 2014, 08:51:40 PM
reporting also


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:53:09 PM
reporting also

Thank you, you are doing the community a favor.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 08:53:32 PM
reporting also

Oh look, idiot #2 has showed up. Surprise surprise.

Do you care that you are making people lose BTC by doing this? Completely goes against the whole reason behind trying to get them removed 'because they are scams'


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:54:27 PM
lose btc today lose it tomorrow why does it matter your going to lose it ponzi boy


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 08:57:46 PM
lose btc today lose it tomorrow why does it matter your going to lose it ponzi boy

You think I just play ponzis all day or something lol? Only reason I'm talking so much about them is because of stupid threads like this.

You are not doing the community any favour by making them lose their btc, idiot.

It's actually really sad what you're doing. Oh and almost all of you anti-ponzi guys talk like little kids, its hilarious.  ;D Clearly you have nothing better to do than try wreak havoc, then pretend its because ponzis are illegal.



Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 08:59:59 PM
sure ponzi boy I am sure if we asked theymous if your IP matched any of the Posting IP's of a ponzi one would.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: jayc89 on March 15, 2014, 09:00:40 PM
lose btc today lose it tomorrow why does it matter your going to lose it ponzi boy

You think I just play ponzis all day or something lol? Only reason I'm talking so much about them is because of stupid threads like this.

You are not doing the community any favour by making them lose their btc, idiot.

It's actually really sad what you're doing. Almost all of you anti-ponzi guys talk like little kids, its hilarious.   ;D



No use arguing with them - dont feed the trolls. Just report his site  ;D


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:01:46 PM
sure ponzi boy I am sure if we asked theymous if your IP matched any of the Posting IP's of a ponzi one would.

This assumption, like all your previous ones is completely wrong. You have alot of learning to do little padawan.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: jasoho on March 15, 2014, 09:01:46 PM
lose btc today lose it tomorrow why does it matter your going to lose it ponzi boy

You think I just play ponzis all day or something lol? Only reason I'm talking so much about them is because of stupid threads like this.

You are not doing the community any favour by making them lose their btc, idiot.

It's actually really sad what you're doing. Almost all of you anti-ponzi guys talk like little kids, its hilarious.   ;D



No use arguing with them - dont feed the trolls. Just report his site  ;D
theme he first introduced his website here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=503775.msg5572389#msg5572389
1 topic in this loan. you can report him as spam and phishing
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=510879.msg5640097#msg5640097
lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: g4c on March 15, 2014, 09:03:27 PM
This whole Ponzi shit-storm is sabotage against Bitcoin, mark my words!

It goes beyond scamming, it's political, don't you smell it?

Edit: not that I give a shit if people walk in the shit, after all it's only a bit of shit right?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:03:30 PM
Ponzi owners unit! Bow to you leader sheeple
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0a/Ponzi.jpg


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: tsm0 on March 15, 2014, 09:04:28 PM
Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:06:54 PM
I got it from a investment so it is there now, but thanks for reading :) if I scam you on my site you can

scream it from the roof tops


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:07:17 PM
Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer.

Don't go near his site. He's looking for a loan of 4-8btc for his bank roll. Any casino that is looking for that little is run by a scammer or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Quote from the website

"Q: What are the minimum and maximum bets in your games?    (Back to top)

A: The minimum bet in all of our games is $0.01. There is no maximum limit on the bets. "



Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:08:25 PM
Talk about that in the thread its is in please :) this is about all things ponzi


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: jayc89 on March 15, 2014, 09:09:48 PM
Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer.

Don't go near his site. He's looking for a loan of 4-8btc for his bank roll. Any casino that is looking for that little is run by a scammer or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Quote from the website

"Q: What are the minimum and maximum bets in your games?    (Back to top)

A: The minimum bet in all of our games is $0.01. There is no maximum limit on the bets. "



Yet he is looking for a 4-5BTC loan LOL the site would be screwed if they had a big winner. O no, wait, they just wouldnt pay out hahaha. SCAM.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:12:11 PM
Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer.

Don't go near his site. He's looking for a loan of 4-8btc for his bank roll. Any casino that is looking for that little is run by a scammer or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Quote from the website

"Q: What are the minimum and maximum bets in your games?    (Back to top)

A: The minimum bet in all of our games is $0.01. There is no maximum limit on the bets. "



Yet he is looking for a 4-5BTC loan LOL the site would be screwed if they had a big winner. O no, wait, they just wouldnt pay out hahaha. SCAM.

Sure sure guy, keep with the sheeple


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: jayc89 on March 15, 2014, 09:13:11 PM
Well RiverBoat, first of all I gotto give you that your website is really nice looking. But since you are all about prohibiting scammers I would advice you to remove PerfectMoney option. They have a long history of scams. Clean up on your front door first, right? However I got tempted to play a little bit on your site, since I actually do think its legit and looks fun. One thing is stopping me though, you claim to not have 50BTC to backup a big win. 50BTC should be peanuts for a "gambling site". That smells scam. Please can you expand what you mean with your statement about the 50BTC and you might have a new customer.

Don't go near his site. He's looking for a loan of 4-8btc for his bank roll. Any casino that is looking for that little is run by a scammer or someone who doesn't know what he's doing.

Quote from the website

"Q: What are the minimum and maximum bets in your games?    (Back to top)

A: The minimum bet in all of our games is $0.01. There is no maximum limit on the bets. "



Yet he is looking for a 4-5BTC loan LOL the site would be screwed if they had a big winner. O no, wait, they just wouldnt pay out hahaha. SCAM.

Sure sure guy, keep with the sheeple

I'm just going with the facts in front of us ;)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: btcmania on March 15, 2014, 09:16:22 PM
Register your site with a Chinese registrar, problem solved.

Oh gee I might just be labeled as a shill for this... life is over as I know it.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:16:57 PM
Bitcoin is illegal in China. problem not solved even worse lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
It's all clear now.

You are a scammer , so like to accuse others of scamming to make yourself feel better. Same story with zolace who tried to scam primedice many times and he's been constantly bashing ponzis for weeks.

Tried to find the correct word for this behaviour but not having luck. Maybe ionix can help out with a suitable Latin phrase.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: jayc89 on March 15, 2014, 09:19:19 PM
It's all clear now.

You are a scammer, so like to accuse others of scamming to make yourself feel better. Same story with zolace who tried to scam primedice many times and he's been constantly bashing ponzis for weeks.

Tried to find the correct word for this behaviour but not having luck. Maybe ionix can help out with a suitable Latin phrase.

I can think of one or two words to descibe those two  ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:23:19 PM
awwie all but hurt :( call me a scammer but you have no proof in the least bit to back it up.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: jayc89 on March 15, 2014, 09:23:54 PM
awwie all but hurt :( call me a scammer but you have no proof in the least bit to back it up.

You have no proof the ponzi sites you are targeting are scams... truth hurts!


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:24:12 PM
awwie all but hurt :( call me a scammer but you have no proof in the least bit to back it up.

You are running an illegal casino that claims to have no Max bet limit. But you are looking for petty funding/loans.

That's a scam. You can't pay someone if they win.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: btcmania on March 15, 2014, 09:24:36 PM
Bitcoin is illegal in China. problem not solved even worse lol

Registering a domain is different than hosting one. You're complaining to the registrars. Worse case scenario someone could host it on TOR. I don't see why you're getting your panties all bunched up when these sites are all clearly labeled as ponzis.

If you want to invest time, and members time, into shutting down a site... go for leancy.com

- it is running as we speak
- they stole $5,000,000
- admins are long gone, email/Skype support stopped, no reply to mail, main PR guy disappeared from Facebook
- withdrawals disabled so you can't take out your interest
- people keep depositing daily not knowing they can't withdraw

It did work for a few months but March 11th when they hit $5,000,000 they took off... bitcoin deposit wallet is emptied to cold storage daily

See Leancy thread on the Gambling forum or their official Facebook page (linked from their site) for confirmation. Some people sold their cars, invested life savings and lost.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:27:02 PM
Get ponzi operators to show you there funds and i will show you mine :) Every ponzi and casino on this board shows wallets and I will show mine till then
Keep with the sheeple ponzi boys


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: BitcoinINV on March 15, 2014, 09:29:06 PM
I see negative trust for people accusing people of scams with unfounded proof.....


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:31:15 PM
I see negative trust for people accusing people of scams with unfounded proof.....

Indeed. Check my trust, ponzi haters left me negative feedback. They are all labelled scammers, who'd have thought.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:31:30 PM
Its ok my site will stay open while ponzi's close


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: tsm0 on March 15, 2014, 09:31:52 PM
I dont think RiverBoat is a scam, at least not yet. That he removes post with negative content directed to his site is shady though.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:33:27 PM
Like I said ask any casino on this site to open their wallet and see what they say lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:36:12 PM
Like I said ask any casino on this site to open their wallet and see what they say lol

If I go on your site and win 50btc (since you say there is no max bet limit), what are you going to do? You obviously cant afford to payout... unless its rigged to not let someone win big.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:36:52 PM
I have backing from havelock invesments if you must know :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: btcmania on March 15, 2014, 09:39:35 PM
Get Leancy.com shut down and I'll throw you 10 BTC free.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 09:39:48 PM
listen first of all this is a very unprofessional thing to do, i would not be surprised if your casino dies due to you acting like an immature child, how would you react if you were thinking about trying out a company to build your house then they are bitching about the landscapers, who have nothing to do with the building.... riverboatBTC will not last if it hasnt already died, enjoy the terrible name you are building for your company, you are releasing peoples private information basically as much as you can...... why? because you lost some btc in a ponzi? i have warned people about them and if you play at your own risk, guess what ITS A GAMBLE

have fun acting like a child

EDIT: I STILL FUCKING HATE PONZI'S so dont go calling me a protector.

i only say this because its fucking stupid how people play ponzi then lose and bitch then guess what .... rinse and repeat it is a non stop cycle , just ignore them dont play and eventually they will go away


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:40:01 PM
I can do that lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:42:08 PM
I have backing from havelock invesments if you must know :)

Lol. How is that going to give me my 50btc winnings?

Also I see this on someones profile who left me negative feedback

"This user "knows" havelock is a scam but will not provide any evidence to those of us who have invested. Instead of elaborating on his claims of how havelock is a scam he leaves negative feedback on my profile because "he is a complete fool", clearly misusing the trust system. I was originally not going to leave feedback as no btc was risked but I had to have it be known why I randomly received this negative feedback. More evidence of the trust system misuse would be the entire page of negative feedback he has left on others he disagrees with."


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:43:16 PM
Lets stop this bait and switch this is about ponzis lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:45:14 PM
listen first of all this is a very unprofessional thing to do, i would not be surprised if your casino dies due to you acting like an immature child, how would you react if you were thinking about trying out a company to build your house then they are bitching about the landscapers, who have nothing to do with the building.... riverboatBTC will not last if it hasnt already died, enjoy the terrible name you are building for your company, you are releasing peoples private information basically as much as you can...... why? because you lost some btc in a ponzi? i have warned people about them and if you play at your own risk, guess what ITS A GAMBLE

have fun acting like a child

EDIT: I STILL FUCKING HATE PONZI'S so dont go calling me a protector.

i only say this because its fucking stupid how people play ponzi then lose and bitch then guess what .... rinse and repeat it is a non stop cycle , just ignore them dont play and eventually they will go away

Not hurting me one bit, all media is good media :) more hits today then all week with more sign ups then the last 2 days combined


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
Lets stop this bait and switch this is about ponzis lol

No its about you being an douchebag reporting seemingly legit websites, getting them taken down and making loads of members here lose btc.... all while you're attempting to run your own scam.

F.U


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:46:34 PM
 :'(  :'(  :'(  :'(
Cry me a river oh oh oh yea


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 09:46:52 PM
Lets stop this bait and switch this is about ponzis lol

no its not .... ive read all these posts and the more it seems like you are screaming scam to make it look like you are against scammers, however you have gone about it all wrong, your site has minimal to no funding, you are bashing at ponzis but what if i win 100 BTC after all i am very lucky i have won alot of BTC the past day or two , would you refuse to pay?

how do you plan on fixing your reputation now? shut down the site and start over? dont forget to refund people if you do


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 09:47:46 PM
:'(  :'(  :'(  :'(
Cry me a river oh oh oh yea

wow very unprofessional and anyone who plays at your casino is asking to get fucked hard with no lube....

Everyone who thinks this site is a scam pm me with your reasons, same for your legit opinions


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:48:41 PM
I told you I am backed by havelock investmenst what part of that do you not understand lol



Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:50:43 PM
But like I said lets talk ponzi here or am I going to have to self mod this tread as well to keep it on topic


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 09:53:07 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:53:56 PM
I told you I am backed by havelock investmenst what part of that do you not understand lol



Yet you're looking for a 4btc loan only a few days ago? Ok peter pan.

If weeklyponzi doesn't come back up, are you going to pay back all those who lost out? (I sent $25 a few hours ago)

Since you are doing this to help the community etc and have massive backing from havelock investment, I think you should take responsibility for your actions and pay back everyone who lost in weeklyponzi because the site was reported.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:55:13 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

well if then when I could have and should have might then done that it could have possibly happend. LMFAO
What happened to you your negative trust?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 09:56:38 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

well if then when I could have and should have might then done that it could have possibly happend. LMFAO
What happened to you your negative trust?

His trust is very good, the negative is ones he left for other people.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 09:58:09 PM
No someone tagged him in the lending thread and he threw a hissy fit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506065.0


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
someone tagged me because i am new to getting investors, i did not go about it properly and so it was removed after it was seen fit, the guy who tagged me was truly trying to protect people from scammers such as yourself. if you would like to tag me as a scammer go ahead act more like a child actually how about you just cry a river and flag me as a scammer


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 10:02:06 PM
I do not tag unless needed, I thought the tag was unfounded honestly was just askings since you wanted to bring things up I figured it could go both ways.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 10:03:20 PM
No someone tagged him in the lending thread and he threw a hissy fit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506065.0

and if you want to try to make me look bad thats fine but i have way better trust than you i have done plenty of business i lurked on these forums for a year before i became a member because i was weary of the attitudes and behavior of some people such as yourself on here, now if you want to do good pay back the people you just cost money, it seems the ponzi you shut down was actually working for some and i think if you want to fix any chance you have at keeping your site afloat that boat then you should pay people back since you have such amazing funding


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 10:04:20 PM
I do not tag unless needed, I thought the tag was unfounded honestly was just askings since you wanted to bring things up I figured it could go both ways.

the tag was removed because i am NOT a scammer i ended up getting investments from someone outside this forum


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: theMiracle on March 15, 2014, 10:04:32 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

If that's what it takes for them to learn, it's a small price to pay.  Pavlovian conditioning works where logic fails.
If they didn't count on people like OP, they simply failed to account for all the risks.
Websites getting shut down is all part of the Ponzi fun.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 10:06:05 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

If that's what it takes for them to learn, it's a small price to pay.  Pavlovian conditioning works where logic fails.
If they didn't count on people like OP, they simply failed to account for all the risks.
Websites getting shut down is all part of the Ponzi fun.


a good response :D


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: g4c on March 15, 2014, 10:06:10 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

obv. hired help.

like you give a shit?

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3256816.jpg


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 10:06:51 PM
but you can not believe I did what do they call that....
Hello,

We do a lot of direct investments in the Bitcoin realm.

Feel free to contact us,

Havelock Investments

HavelockInvestments.com

They contacted me by the way  ;)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: g4c on March 15, 2014, 10:08:46 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

obv. hired help.

like you give a shit?

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3256816.jpg

ironically, I put more effort into that than most ponzi sites! lol!


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: tsm0 on March 15, 2014, 10:12:14 PM
So whats the problem of posting the blockchain transfer? Im a newbie, so please forgive me if I dont fully understand. How can this be a security risc?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 10:12:47 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

obv. hired help.

like you give a shit?

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3256816.jpg

ironically, I put more effort into that than most ponzi sites! lol!

this is something i would invest in :P


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mdzedzej on March 15, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

obv. hired help.

like you give a shit?

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3256816.jpg

i honestly dont give a shit about what happens to ponzi's lol i just think its funny seeing this site owner acting like a child :P


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 10:15:48 PM
No someone tagged him in the lending thread and he threw a hissy fit
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=506065.0

and if you want to try to make me look bad thats fine but i have way better trust than you i have done plenty of business i lurked on these forums for a year before i became a member because i was weary of the attitudes and behavior of some people such as yourself on here, now if you want to do good pay back the people you just cost money, it seems the ponzi you shut down was actually working for some and i think if you want to fix any chance you have at keeping your site afloat that boat then you should pay people back since you have such amazing funding

Yep, op of this thread may just have cost me $25. There was 5 days left in this round of the ponzi so very high change I was going to get paid back. There was also deposits worth way more than mine who are probably now checking for updates on the weeklyponzi site to find it is offline.

OP is a ponzi grinch.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: g4c on March 15, 2014, 10:16:42 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

If that's what it takes for them to learn, it's a small price to pay.  Pavlovian conditioning works where logic fails.
If they didn't count on people like OP, they simply failed to account for all the risks.
Websites getting shut down is all part of the Ponzi fun.


Ha ha!

Ponzi owners can make lemonade from lemons and add it as a tagline:

"!!!!!!!!Extra thrill: PonziX was mentioned by RiverBoatBTC!!!!!!!"


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: g4c on March 15, 2014, 10:20:57 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

obv. hired help.

like you give a shit?

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3256816.jpg

i honestly dont give a shit about what happens to ponzi's lol i just think its funny seeing this site owner acting like a child :P

He's not acting like a child, in fact he's the only adult who has picked up a broom in this shit-smeared hallway called the gambling subsection.

And for the same reason an adult picks up the broom after the children make their silly messes. Because he has a vested interest to keep the section clean.

It's really fucking simple really.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 10:23:07 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

obv. hired help.

like you give a shit?

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3256816.jpg

i honestly dont give a shit about what happens to ponzi's lol i just think its funny seeing this site owner acting like a child :P

He's not acting like a child, in fact he's the only adult who has picked up a broom in this shit-smeared hallway called the gambling subsection.

And for the same reason an adult picks up the broom after the children make their silly messes. Because he has a vested interest to keep the section clean.

It's really fucking simple really.

They do not see it that way they want to let the dirt lie, I like to troll the sheeples that support ponzies big deal got to make it fun some how.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: g4c on March 15, 2014, 10:24:06 PM
yea then delete this thread and make a new one, go ahead and make more people lose money, i am against ponzi's but you are costing those who play real money that they probably may possibly have gotten back

obv. hired help.

like you give a shit?

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3256816.jpg

ironically, I put more effort into that than most ponzi sites! lol!

this is something i would invest in :P

Go for it, I'm sure it will return 120% guaranteed ::)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 10:25:00 PM
A wild ponzi hater appears!

Riverboat uses suck



Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 10:25:34 PM
But I will tell you what the sheeples are good for keeping this thread at the top for all to report the ponzis lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: boumalo on March 15, 2014, 10:27:43 PM
This post is getting out of hands!

Ponzis can be seen as a gambling game; people lose money with ponzis but it doesn't make them sc.ams

A lot of them are s.cams or finish in sc.ams which is a problem (having a ponzi section where newbies can't create posts would help dealing with the problem)

Some ponzis are deceptive because they advertise themselves as an investment opportunity with dividend, the weaker among us lose more but I am sure some players made money apart the ponzis owners


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 10:29:33 PM
This post is getting out of hands!

Ponzis can be seen as a gambling game; people lose money with ponzis but it doesn't make them sc.ams

A lot of them are s.cams or finish in sc.ams which is a problem (having a ponzi section where newbies can't create posts would help dealing with the problem)

Some ponzis are deceptive because they advertise themselves as an investment opportunity with dividend, the weaker among us lose more but I am sure some players made money apart the ponzis owners

Dude, the ponzi haters don't care if they are scams or legit gambling. They are just scammers pretending everyone else is also scammers to feel better. They also don't care if they make other people lose BTC.

Someone running a 'ponzi' is a good target because of its reputation.



Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 10:30:14 PM
This post is getting out of hands!

Ponzis can be seen as a gambling game; people lose money with ponzis but it doesn't make them sc.ams

A lot of them are s.cams or finish in sc.ams which is a problem (having a ponzi section where newbies can't create posts would help dealing with the problem)

Some ponzis are deceptive because they advertise themselves as an investment opportunity with dividend, the weaker among us lose more but I am sure some players made money apart the ponzis owners

It is, the admin will not do nothing about theses ponzi's by giving them a subsection or changing the rules thats why I am reporting them to the hosters


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 10:30:44 PM
This post is getting out of hands!

Ponzis can be seen as a gambling game; people lose money with ponzis but it doesn't make them sc.ams

A lot of them are s.cams or finish in sc.ams which is a problem (having a ponzi section where newbies can't create posts would help dealing with the problem)

Some ponzis are deceptive because they advertise themselves as an investment opportunity with dividend, the weaker among us lose more but I am sure some players made money apart the ponzis owners

It is, the admin will not do nothing about theses ponzi's by giving them a subsection or changing the rules thats why I am reporting them to the hosters

shut up.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 10:33:21 PM
 :'( aww you hurt my feelings spixel, I thought we were best friends


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 10:33:53 PM
:'( aww you hurt my feelings spixel, I thought we were best friends

We can be, when you pay back my $25 :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 10:34:50 PM
:'( aww you hurt my feelings spixel, I thought we were best friends

We can be, when you pay back my $25 :)

I would not piss on you if you were on fire lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: g4c on March 15, 2014, 10:35:04 PM
This post is getting out of hands!

Ponzis can be seen as a gambling game; people lose money with ponzis but it doesn't make them sc.ams

A lot of them are s.cams or finish in sc.ams which is a problem (having a ponzi section where newbies can't create posts would help dealing with the problem)

Some ponzis are deceptive because they advertise themselves as an investment opportunity with dividend, the weaker among us lose more but I am sure some players made money apart the ponzis owners

Most of the specimens seen lately, during the recent mass influx, they are scams.

It's highly probable that all ponzis started will end as a scam. After all every ponzi defaults at some time, no argument can be made against that. Game theory shows ponzi operators that pre-empt the collapse and run will win over those that don't.

Of course the recent new breed that play rounds and refund pro-rata the pot remains after each round dies, they could be considered more fair. But without that mechanism, there is no argument for them to be called gambling (in the sense of fixed odds gambling).


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 10:40:29 PM
This post is getting out of hands!

Ponzis can be seen as a gambling game; people lose money with ponzis but it doesn't make them sc.ams

A lot of them are s.cams or finish in sc.ams which is a problem (having a ponzi section where newbies can't create posts would help dealing with the problem)

Some ponzis are deceptive because they advertise themselves as an investment opportunity with dividend, the weaker among us lose more but I am sure some players made money apart the ponzis owners

Most of the specimens seen lately, during the recent mass influx, they are scams.

It's highly probable that all ponzis started will end as a scam. After all every ponzi defaults at some time, no argument can be made against that. Game theory shows ponzi operators that pre-empt the collapse and run will win over those that don't.

Of course the recent new breed that play rounds and refund pro-rata the pot remains after each round dies, they could be considered more fair. But without that mechanism, there is no argument for them to be called gambling (in the sense of fixed odds gambling).

We know this, but most of the ponzis here take fees and have several rounds.

A round ending with losers is fine with everyone as we know its gonna happen, then the next one starts. Operator takes a fee each round, so no need to run to make profit.

It's a game not a ponzi. I don't approve of places like leancy though, but not gonna jump on the back of people who want to use them.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Micon on March 15, 2014, 10:44:38 PM
Kill them all.  Burn their hosts. 


OFF MY LAWN


OP anything you need from me, I'll help.  I'll bounty the destruction of the Ponzi sites if you'd like.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 10:45:30 PM
Kill them all.  Burn their hosts. 


OFF MY LAWN


OP anything you need from me, I'll help.  I'll bounty the destruction of the Ponzi sites if you'd like.

Is this your forum?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 10:49:24 PM
Kill them all.  Burn their hosts. 


OFF MY LAWN


OP anything you need from me, I'll help.  I'll bounty the destruction of the Ponzi sites if you'd like.

Thanks Micon I know you were the first poker site for bitcoin and the fact you stand against ponzi's is great!
If you want to bounty that would be awesome!



Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
Kill them all.  Burn their hosts. 


OFF MY LAWN


OP anything you need from me, I'll help.  I'll bounty the destruction of the Ponzi sites if you'd like.

Is this your forum?


You are dumb this guy started bitcoin gambling so yea lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: g4c on March 15, 2014, 10:54:04 PM
This post is getting out of hands!

Ponzis can be seen as a gambling game; people lose money with ponzis but it doesn't make them sc.ams

A lot of them are s.cams or finish in sc.ams which is a problem (having a ponzi section where newbies can't create posts would help dealing with the problem)

Some ponzis are deceptive because they advertise themselves as an investment opportunity with dividend, the weaker among us lose more but I am sure some players made money apart the ponzis owners

Most of the specimens seen lately, during the recent mass influx, they are scams.

It's highly probable that all ponzis started will end as a scam. After all every ponzi defaults at some time, no argument can be made against that. Game theory shows ponzi operators that pre-empt the collapse and run will win over those that don't.

Of course the recent new breed that play rounds and refund pro-rata the pot remains after each round dies, they could be considered more fair. But without that mechanism, there is no argument for them to be called gambling (in the sense of fixed odds gambling).

We know this, but most of the ponzis here take fees and have several rounds.

A round ending with losers is fine with everyone as we know its gonna happen, then the next one starts. Operator takes a fee each round, so no need to run to make profit.

It's a game not a ponzi. I don't approve of places like leancy though, but not gonna jump on the back of people who want to use them.

OK. To increase the chances for the "legit" ponzis then you ought to at least do the right thing and attempt to kill all ponzis that do not have some slow start trust building mechanism.

I realise it's a game following the Ponzi pattern. The same argument can be made for anything though, as life itself, and certainly money, is also just a game.




Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Micon on March 15, 2014, 10:58:17 PM


Is this your forum?



Hi.

I can explain better "who's forum this is"

It is not mine, certainly not.  It does not belong to Dooglus either, but he is a large part of it too.  Same for bitcoinvideopoker, pocket rockets casino, nitrogen sports, cloudbet, just-dice, bitzino, satoshi dice, and a host of other really cool legitimate bitcoin gambling sites.  The legit operators are very friendly with each other.  We all want to see bitcoin gambling grow and flourish.  We want to see the newest gambling ideas instantly available with the awesome power of bitcoin.

It doesn't belong to any of us but it's the legitimate sites that have been here before you arrived and will be here long after your scams have run their course that "own this forum"  - not in a technical sense, but de facto owners.  The ones that users want to hear from.  The ones that help each other out even though we are "competitors."  The ones on the forefront of a new industry.  

Ponzis and HYIPs will not come in and bully all the old school legitimate sites.  We will simply fight you until you leave.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: jayc89 on March 15, 2014, 10:59:40 PM


Is this your forum?



Hi.

I can explain better "who's forum this is"

It is not mine, certainly not.  It does not belong to Dooglus either, but he is a large part of it too.  Same for bitcoinvideopoker, pocket rockets casino, nitrogen sports, cloudbet, just-dice, bitzino, satoshi dice, and a host of other really cool legitimate bitcoin gambling sites.  The legit operators are very friendly with each other.  We all want to see bitcoin gambling grow and flourish.  We want to see the newest gambling ideas instantly available with the awesome power of bitcoin.

It doesn't belong to any of us but it's the legitimate sites that have been here before you arrived and will be here long after your scams have run their course that "own this forum"  - not in a technical sense, but de facto owners.  The ones that users want to hear from.  The ones that help each other out even though we are "competitors."  The ones on the forefront of a new industry.  

Ponzis and HYIPs will not come in and bully all the old school legitimate sites.  We will simply fight you until you leave.

So basically, the old-school gambling sites are pissed that ponzis are taking their business.

Cool story.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:01:51 PM


Is this your forum?



Hi.

I can explain better "who's forum this is"

It is not mine, certainly not.  It does not belong to Dooglus either, but he is a large part of it too.  Same for bitcoinvideopoker, pocket rockets casino, nitrogen sports, cloudbet, just-dice, bitzino, satoshi dice, and a host of other really cool legitimate bitcoin gambling sites.  The legit operators are very friendly with each other.  We all want to see bitcoin gambling grow and flourish.  We want to see the newest gambling ideas instantly available with the awesome power of bitcoin.

It doesn't belong to any of us but it's the legitimate sites that have been here before you arrived and will be here long after your scams have run their course that "own this forum"  - not in a technical sense, but de facto owners.  The ones that users want to hear from.  The ones that help each other out even though we are "competitors."  The ones on the forefront of a new industry.  

Ponzis and HYIPs will not come in and bully all the old school legitimate sites.  We will simply fight you until you leave.

I would start hitting these guys with negative trust micon, hit them where it counts. It wont show if I do it but if you do it will


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Micon on March 15, 2014, 11:03:19 PM


Is this your forum?



Hi.

I can explain better "who's forum this is"

It is not mine, certainly not.  It does not belong to Dooglus either, but he is a large part of it too.  Same for bitcoinvideopoker, pocket rockets casino, nitrogen sports, cloudbet, just-dice, bitzino, satoshi dice, and a host of other really cool legitimate bitcoin gambling sites.  The legit operators are very friendly with each other.  We all want to see bitcoin gambling grow and flourish.  We want to see the newest gambling ideas instantly available with the awesome power of bitcoin.

It doesn't belong to any of us but it's the legitimate sites that have been here before you arrived and will be here long after your scams have run their course that "own this forum"  - not in a technical sense, but de facto owners.  The ones that users want to hear from.  The ones that help each other out even though we are "competitors."  The ones on the forefront of a new industry.  

Ponzis and HYIPs will not come in and bully all the old school legitimate sites.  We will simply fight you until you leave.

So basically, the old-school gambling sites are pissed that ponzis are taking their business.

Cool story.

that's a logical fallacy called a "strawman" whereby you rephrase my argument into something lesser.


replace the word "old-school" with "legitimate" and you start to phrase the point better, but you forget the important part - that you are fucking up bitcoin gambling as a whole, i.e. the brand is cheapened by the biggest bitcoin gambling forum being filled with shit.  

The legitimate bitcoin gambling sites are pissed because for the last few weeks, new bitcoin gamblers assumed ~75% of bitcoin gambling was bullshit ponzi scams after viewing the front page of this forum.

maybe using verbose language you understand the point a bit better now, and realize why I will fight so hard to crush you.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: jayc89 on March 15, 2014, 11:04:28 PM


Is this your forum?



Hi.

I can explain better "who's forum this is"

It is not mine, certainly not.  It does not belong to Dooglus either, but he is a large part of it too.  Same for bitcoinvideopoker, pocket rockets casino, nitrogen sports, cloudbet, just-dice, bitzino, satoshi dice, and a host of other really cool legitimate bitcoin gambling sites.  The legit operators are very friendly with each other.  We all want to see bitcoin gambling grow and flourish.  We want to see the newest gambling ideas instantly available with the awesome power of bitcoin.

It doesn't belong to any of us but it's the legitimate sites that have been here before you arrived and will be here long after your scams have run their course that "own this forum"  - not in a technical sense, but de facto owners.  The ones that users want to hear from.  The ones that help each other out even though we are "competitors."  The ones on the forefront of a new industry.  

Ponzis and HYIPs will not come in and bully all the old school legitimate sites.  We will simply fight you until you leave.

So basically, the old-school gambling sites are pissed that ponzis are taking their business.

Cool story.

that's a logical fallacy called a "strawman" whereby you rephrase my argument into something lesser.


replace the word "old-school" with "legitimate" and you start to phrase the point better, but you forget the important part - that you are fucking up bitcoin gambling as a whole, i.e. the brand is cheapened by the biggest bitcoin gambling forum being filled with shit.  

The legitimate bitcoin gambling sites are pissed because for the last few weeks, new bitcoin gamblers assumed ~75% of bitcoin gambling was bullshit ponzi scams after viewing the front page of this forum.

maybe using verbose language you understand the point a bit better now, and realize why I will fight so hard to crush you.

I'm not "fucking up" anything. I'll spend my coins where I like. Thanks for the concern though.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 11:05:13 PM


Is this your forum?



Hi.

I can explain better "who's forum this is"

It is not mine, certainly not.  It does not belong to Dooglus either, but he is a large part of it too.  Same for bitcoinvideopoker, pocket rockets casino, nitrogen sports, cloudbet, just-dice, bitzino, satoshi dice, and a host of other really cool legitimate bitcoin gambling sites.  The legit operators are very friendly with each other.  We all want to see bitcoin gambling grow and flourish.  We want to see the newest gambling ideas instantly available with the awesome power of bitcoin.

It doesn't belong to any of us but it's the legitimate sites that have been here before you arrived and will be here long after your scams have run their course that "own this forum"  - not in a technical sense, but de facto owners.  The ones that users want to hear from.  The ones that help each other out even though we are "competitors."  The ones on the forefront of a new industry.  

Ponzis and HYIPs will not come in and bully all the old school legitimate sites.  We will simply fight you until you leave.

Fair enough, but why do you need to keep up with this bigoted nonsense?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: btcmania on March 15, 2014, 11:06:41 PM
I have 10 BTC (9.83 to be exact) to the person who takes down leancy.com

word.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Light on March 15, 2014, 11:10:19 PM
I have 10 BTC (9.83 to be exact) to the person who takes down leancy.com

word.


I'm pretty sure it's not actually running anymore. IIRC there original promoter of it here closed shop and labelled it a scam as it has stopped paying out it's "investors" for over a week now. On the other hand if your talking about taking the site itself down - I'm sure it'll disintegrate eventually once deposits stop flowing in.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:12:19 PM
I have 10 BTC (9.83 to be exact) to the person who takes down leancy.com

word.


Working on it


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: ionux on March 15, 2014, 11:21:25 PM


Is this your forum?



Hi.

I can explain better "who's forum this is"

It is not mine, certainly not.  It does not belong to Dooglus either, but he is a large part of it too.  Same for bitcoinvideopoker, pocket rockets casino, nitrogen sports, cloudbet, just-dice, bitzino, satoshi dice, and a host of other really cool legitimate bitcoin gambling sites.  The legit operators are very friendly with each other.  We all want to see bitcoin gambling grow and flourish.  We want to see the newest gambling ideas instantly available with the awesome power of bitcoin.

It doesn't belong to any of us but it's the legitimate sites that have been here before you arrived and will be here long after your scams have run their course that "own this forum"  - not in a technical sense, but de facto owners.  The ones that users want to hear from.  The ones that help each other out even though we are "competitors."  The ones on the forefront of a new industry.  

Ponzis and HYIPs will not come in and bully all the old school legitimate sites.  We will simply fight you until you leave.

So basically, the old-school gambling sites are pissed that ponzis are taking their business.

Cool story.

that's a logical fallacy called a "strawman" whereby you rephrase my argument into something lesser.


replace the word "old-school" with "legitimate" and you start to phrase the point better, but you forget the important part - that you are fucking up bitcoin gambling as a whole, i.e. the brand is cheapened by the biggest bitcoin gambling forum being filled with shit.  

The legitimate bitcoin gambling sites are pissed because for the last few weeks, new bitcoin gamblers assumed ~75% of bitcoin gambling was bullshit ponzi scams after viewing the front page of this forum.

maybe using verbose language you understand the point a bit better now, and realize why I will fight so hard to crush you.

Micon, it's useless to actually use logic and a well-formed argument against the Ponzi scam supporters.  I've tried that several times only to be presented with ad hominem and contradictory attacks in response.  Good luck, though.  I support you and anyone else attempting to clean up the junk in this subforum.  We've got to police ourselves before this shit gets out of hand.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: btcmania on March 15, 2014, 11:22:20 PM
I have 10 BTC (9.83 to be exact) to the person who takes down leancy.com

word.


I'm pretty sure it's not actually running anymore. IIRC there original promoter of it here closed shop and labelled it a scam as it has stopped paying out it's "investors" for over a week now. On the other hand if your talking about taking the site itself down - I'm sure it'll disintegrate eventually once deposits stop flowing in.

Well it's down for me, not sure how that happened. Is someone here the king of ddos? :)

The site is a scam, they took off with $5,000,000 in funds including my own. I see people depositing every day and it's painful to watch knowing they'll never get a dime back.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:23:18 PM
No just talked to the online operator, and your welcom :) BTC is illegal in china where it was hosted
Done that to 2 sites now today :) you can send coins below as needed my friend


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: ionux on March 15, 2014, 11:24:20 PM
Well it's down for me, not sure how that happened. Is someone here the king of ddos? :)

The site is a scam, they took off with $5,000,000 in funds including my own. I see people depositing every day and it's painful to watch knowing they'll never get a dime back.

Are you serious?  You lost $5 Million?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: btcmania on March 15, 2014, 11:24:53 PM
Your Chinese must be quite good. I tried the email route and it bounced for me.

Another person reported it was working for him, I've seen the site bounce off and on. If this is truly the end, I'll be firing up my BTC wallet for you.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 11:25:44 PM
Your Chinese must be quite good. I tried the email route and it bounced for me.

Another person reported it was working for him, I've seen the site bounce off and on. If this is truly the end, I'll be firing up my BTC wallet for you.

Lol if you think he did anything. Leancy is still working fine for me.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: btcmania on March 15, 2014, 11:25:58 PM
Well it's down for me, not sure how that happened. Is someone here the king of ddos? :)

The site is a scam, they took off with $5,000,000 in funds including my own. I see people depositing every day and it's painful to watch knowing they'll never get a dime back.

Are you serious?  You lost $5 Million?

No. Including my own (which was significantly smaller than $5,000,000, like about $4,999,000 smaller).


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: tsm0 on March 15, 2014, 11:26:11 PM
Of course its down... temporary, now someone will claim the 10 BTC keep the ddos alive. After the payment is done, its all back on track again.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:26:25 PM
Your Chinese must be quite good. I tried the email route and it bounced for me.

Another person reported it was working for him, I've seen the site bounce off and on. If this is truly the end, I'll be firing up my BTC wallet for you.

Domain registar is in hong kong they have online skype and chat, ling spoke decent english


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 3 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:28:24 PM
its up for me btw to be honest, might be cached though who knows but I did talk to a operator and she said she would take care of it.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 11:29:19 PM
its up for me btw to be honest

Don't want to be caught scamming 10btc do you. Got to be honest to keep your awesome ponzi killin reputation.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: btcmania on March 15, 2014, 11:29:58 PM
I don't know why I didn't think of live support. I tried mailing Blacklotus (ddos provider) and the Chinese registrar without success.

Oh well, a promise made is a promise kept. It's a drop in the bucket compared to what people are losing every day to those guys. They empty the bitcoin wallet nightly.

We're discussing it here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448250.msg5690460#msg5690460


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:30:25 PM
Yes cause my reputation matters to me... unlike you sheeple


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: ionux on March 15, 2014, 11:32:08 PM
Well it's down for me, not sure how that happened. Is someone here the king of ddos? :)

The site is a scam, they took off with $5,000,000 in funds including my own. I see people depositing every day and it's painful to watch knowing they'll never get a dime back.

Are you serious?  You lost $5 Million?

No. Including my own (which was significantly smaller than $5,000,000, like about $4,999,000 smaller).


Oh ok, sorry, mis-read that.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:33:48 PM
I don't know why I didn't think of live support. I tried mailing Blacklotus (ddos provider) and the Chinese registrar without success.

Oh well, a promise made is a promise kept. It's a drop in the bucket compared to what people are losing every day to those guys. They empty the bitcoin wallet nightly.

We're discussing it here

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=448250.msg5690460#msg5690460

You are going to the wrong people, the register just like the hoster can reclaim the site. I go directly to the register they seem to be the most cooperative.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: btcmania on March 15, 2014, 11:38:26 PM
Do you have a link to support's chat? I couldn't understand what I did find and the English version of the registrar is on a different domain entirely. I'd like to get a whole flood of people contacting them.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:39:05 PM
http://www.eranet.com/customer/consult_submit.net this is the parent registar company
http://www.eranet.com/customer/contact.net hole lists of number to call and complain to


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 11:39:55 PM
Do you have a link to support's chat? I couldn't understand what I did find and the English version of the registrar is on a different domain entirely. I'd like to get a whole flood of people contacting them.


Just find something else to do. It's nice you want to prevent people from being scammed but you're not going to succeed with this. Leancy is dieing out slowly, and everyone who'd be interested in investing already knows its a scam by now.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: tsm0 on March 15, 2014, 11:40:54 PM
I really do that hope that you have done what you claim to have done, but it doesnt add up. Take a look at that serial...

leancy.com   IN   TXT   v=spf1 a mx mx:mx2.leancy.com +all   300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   MX   
preference:   0
exchange:   mx2.leancy.com
300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   SOA   
server:   lean.bl1.blockdos.com
email:   support@server4sale.com
serial:   2014030503
refresh:   86400
retry:   7200
expire:   3600000
minimum ttl:   86400
300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   NS   lean.bl2.blockdos.com   300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   NS   lean.bl1.blockdos.com   300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   A   208.64.126.119   300s   (5m)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:41:50 PM
Do you have a link to support's chat? I couldn't understand what I did find and the English version of the registrar is on a different domain entirely. I'd like to get a whole flood of people contacting them.


Just find something else to do. It's nice you want to prevent people from being scammed but you're not going to succeed with this. Leancy is dieing out slowly, and everyone who'd be interested in investing already knows its a scam by now.

No one cares what you say once again...


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 15, 2014, 11:42:18 PM
I really do that hope that you have done what you claim to have done, but it doesnt add up. Take a look at that serial...

leancy.com   IN   TXT   v=spf1 a mx mx:mx2.leancy.com +all   300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   MX   
preference:   0
exchange:   mx2.leancy.com
300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   SOA   
server:   lean.bl1.blockdos.com
email:   support@server4sale.com
serial:   2014030503
refresh:   86400
retry:   7200
expire:   3600000
minimum ttl:   86400
300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   NS   lean.bl2.blockdos.com   300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   NS   lean.bl1.blockdos.com   300s   (5m)
leancy.com   IN   A   208.64.126.119   300s   (5m)

He has done nothing. Tried to claim for a second he did, but then realised that it'd be obvious he's a liar as leancy is still working lol.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 15, 2014, 11:56:18 PM
Talked to server4sale live chat op said she would look into it but most of the time needs a police report. I told her aiding and abetting a criminal activity is illegal as well, the fact I told her what it was means they know. They told me they would forward it to a supervisor. Was a broken english chat opp so it's prob not going to happen
http://app.helponclick.com//help?a=4e80681af2f4414d90a605a8b86aab83&w=4fbb848e-88f0-471a-97ce-6ac0b86aab83&d=&o=&ava=0&user_uid=266f0c7b-24c6-43db-814b-70a5fb472c38&lang=en


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: serje on March 16, 2014, 12:38:55 AM
I have 10 BTC (9.83 to be exact) to the person who takes down leancy.com

word.


For how many weeks?

Is a DDOS ok?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 16, 2014, 01:02:28 AM
You might want to update the thread to ZERO down.

weeklyponzi.com
+
big.weeklyponzi.com


are back up and running.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 16, 2014, 01:08:39 AM
No one cares they still go in the count, go off with yourself ponzi boy.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 16, 2014, 01:10:12 AM
No one cares they still go in the count, go off with yourself ponzi boy.

Cant accept your failure no?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 16, 2014, 01:31:41 AM
I set out to do happened and I can promise you it will keep happening, the only failure was your mother to swallow you.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mem on March 16, 2014, 05:00:18 AM
http://pic.jpgdump.com/24117.jpg


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: zolace on March 16, 2014, 05:04:43 AM
Actually there is organization you can report the sites on, they can get them taken down, I have connections through them, my cousin works with them.  Let me talk to my cousin and see how we can go to a more aggressive solution.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 16, 2014, 12:37:26 PM
Got another one :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 16, 2014, 01:34:53 PM
Starting a new round of emails/calls/live chats lets see what we can get going this AM


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 2 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 16, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
For you reading entertainment
shill is butt hurt cause I returned his favors
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=517340.new#new


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 19, 2014, 11:51:02 AM
Got a couple more  8)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: spixel on March 19, 2014, 01:18:25 PM
Got a couple more  8)

Looks like your own scam casino has also been taken down.

Ha


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 20, 2014, 12:39:50 AM
Got a couple more  8)

Looks like your own scam casino has also been taken down.

Ha

we are working on auto withdraw deposit we will be back :)


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 20, 2014, 12:49:51 PM
Thanks for the support! I have had a great number of Messages thanking me for what I have been doing. I do it to make bitcointalk a better place!

DOWN WITH PONZI'S!


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: mem on March 25, 2014, 05:42:47 AM
RiverBoatBTC I admire your efforts greatly, keep up the good work.

If your ever in Perth Australia, hit me up and we can talk bitcoin over a few beers and a bbq.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: zolace on March 25, 2014, 08:24:02 AM
I want to join


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 26, 2014, 12:04:48 AM
Thanks fellas, I do what I can when I can.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 26, 2014, 11:08:32 PM
So some shill "account made in jan 14" had a post on how to spot ponzi's/hyip. Well in all his greatness he decided to start reviewing ponzi's and listing the "Not scam" ones and locking the pinned thread. Well it is my pleasure to say his ponzi ass trickery is unpinned and he cried his way off the forum  8)

Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=520086.0


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: NRigle on March 26, 2014, 11:32:35 PM
So some shill "account made in jan 14" had a post on how to spot ponzi's/hyip. Well in all his greatness he decided to start reviewing ponzi's and listing the "Not scam" ones and locking the pinned thread. Well it is my pleasure to say his ponzi ass trickery is unpinned and he cried his way off the forum  8)

Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=520086.0

Without a doubt you are the biggest fucking moron I have ever seen on any internet forum.

First of all I was not a 'shill account'. I came to BCT as an investor, miner and slowly gravitated to the gambling forum. My history of posts showed that my intention was not to be pro-anything. I then found my way to HYIP sites and didn't care for what I saw - mostly scammers posing as legit investors. I felt people needed to be warned and this comes across CLEARLY in my article. You cannot say it defends such sites, and you cannot say it blasts them either. It presents information to look out for, and allows the reader to decide if it's a safe investment. The closing remarks particularly let people know that these sites are shady.

Secondly yes I did decide to review Ponzi's because you, mem and RGBkey began to flood the forums with your pathetic 'scam' posts. Without even waiting for someone to play the site or review it, you immediately assumed they were a scam. Perhaps 99% of thee sites are scams and the owners just want to make off with the money. However maybe there is that 1% chance the site is going to pay out as promised and, if all parties are aware of the risks, they should be able to play such a game.

Thirdly, I did not list the "not scam" ones. I listed one single site (singular, not plural). In the span of 10 minutes I saw at least two other posts in the forum about the same Ponzi site I'd just added with a positive review. Receiving one email with a positive review and blockchain would have been fine, but to see two other people in the next 10 minutes also claim they had good investments was a bit suspicious. I then REMOVED the listing and as you can see it has nothing in it to do with chain Ponzi sites because I've not received any more positive or negative feedback on them.

So this Ponzi ass trickery you speak about is really nothing more than your own stupidity and inability to comprehend. However you ARE the same tool who floods other people's posts with SCAMSCAMSCAM over and over without gathering any facts.

Other members of this forum have read my article and many of them have sent messages of support thanking me for being unbiased. If I were going all out promoting HYIP sites and Ponzi sites, perhaps you could call me a shill but anyone with a grade 6 reading level could clearly understand I was aiming for neutrality. And that shows...it's always showed, it showed even when I began to review Ponzi sites.

The problem is you are so determined to see what you want to see, you don't give any of those site operators a chance. However because you whiners complained to the mods about my introducing Ponzi sites into a NEUTRAL article, I decided that there was no purpose in trying to educate people with you fucking idiots continuing to flood the forums.

And that would explain why the article was locked - it's something a 10 year old child could comprehend. The fact that it is unlocked doesn't change anything. The information is still as valid as it was, and anyone coming into this forum for the first time will be able to gather the facts and come away knowing what risks to watch for.

Should they happen upon your post above though, I think that they will agree your comments were really unfounded.

I'm sorry that you are a fucking moron and could not grasp that concept. I wouldn't say I cried my way off the forum, I simply felt that it was pointless further trying to create something positive for the community with your behavior.

Think about it... what is more positive? Running around like a little girl screaming SCAMMMMMY in large red font for every site you disagree with, downvoting people's trust levels because you don't agree with them - or allowing someone to sit down and write an article specifically detailing what makes these sites so risky and the level of deceit that they use.

You clearly didn't have any issue with that did you? No. It was ONLY when I introduced chain ponzis into the mix that you began to froth at the mouth and cry like a child. Evidentally one of us is mature, the other is not.

I'll leave it at that. And I do have another account that I use from work (completely different IP) for my trading and other activity on here which I felt would probably come in handy should this day come.

Really dude, you know as well as I do that you were way off with your allegations - but I will let my article speak for itself. The rest of the community can add onto it or flood it with the low IQ shit that only your mind is capable of.

Either way I am done maintaining it....


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 26, 2014, 11:51:42 PM
All I see is  :'( In fact so much you made a new account....

New account means everything you say is null and void shill, keep churning those accounts out.

Oh yea your DDOS of my site fails along with you lol


oh man... someone is ddos'ing and throttling your site.

that's really unfortunate  ;D


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: FastBluff on March 27, 2014, 12:12:24 AM
The only issue I see with reporting them and and the government actually doing anything is that Bitcoin is in fact a virtual currency and is not regulated. Value is in the eye of the beholder at this point. It has no more value than the virtual chips you get from in app purchases. It currently falls under the same laws.

Right now the government is more worried about those proccessing transactions for fiat unregulated. 

Im not talking down bitcoin, just stating that the lack of regulation hinders possible enforcement. A pro of bitcoin, a coin of bitcoin.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: NRigle on March 27, 2014, 05:18:25 AM
New account means everything you say is null and void shill, keep churning those accounts out.

Oh yea your DDOS of my site fails along with you lol

Actually new account, old account, crusty moldy account, shiny new in the box account every word of what I wrote remains true.

Fact: We know you're struggling for funding for your piece of shit website.
Fact: We know you were rejected by Havelock.
Fact: We know you're jealous of the Ponzi sites because they drum up more interest than your cookie cutter site.
Fact: We know people can and do make profit from ponzis.
Fact: We know that allowing members to vote on the legitimacy of a site in a moderated and controlled area beats you running around with shit spilling out of your diaper as you cry, "Waaaah! It's a ponziiiiii, it's a ponziiiiiiii".

Fact: You should check your server logs. Tsk tsk tsk... so many 500/503 errors your poor server just couldn't deal with an influx of 'visitors'.
Fact: Many members of the forum PM'd me and thanked me for taking the time to attempt to lessen the crying/harassment of chasing all the Ponzi threads and trying to be a voice of reason.
Fact: You continue to cry like a baby.
Fact: Unfortunately your site was not secured against SQL injection, let's just say I have it on good authority. Better examine those server logs lol. You'll see what I mean.

The good news is, I am in the process of contacting all the Ponzi site operators and will be offering them FREE hosting in my Panama datacenter. Well, it's not mine but I lease server space. Between that and created a website where people can vote +/- for their favourite Ponzi site (with blockchain proof of course) and posting it to ALL the gambling forums, you'll have to double your efforts to cry and whine for more funding.

It's laughable that someone can code their own Ponzi page, make a success of themselves and there's you with someone else's software struggling to stay afloat and running around trying to shut down the competition. When you can't do it through the ISP, you try to flood the forums with scam responses and it really makes you look quite bad.

I've had two of your 'customers' come to me indicating they left your site because of your behavior.

Anyway... to all the Ponzi operators I'll be in touch. True I started out neutral and decided to let the public decide what sites were good or bad, but since Larry Loan-me-money Loser began using the 'shill' word, I thought to myself - why not? I may as well fight the good fight. I've even got my own Ponzi site almost ready to go. A few more tweaks to the code.

Well I best let you get to those server logs... don't worry though, I used a proxy. In fact I use a proxy all the time.

Cheerio!


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 27, 2014, 11:02:58 AM
Why are you still here crying you know everything you said up there is true and unfounded. You never once got into my database you lieing ass shill.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: Jcw188 on March 27, 2014, 04:19:47 PM
I love how ponzis all say they have "blockchain proof" they are legit.  Sure, who are the addresses that the BTC is being sent to/from?  You can have a thousand accounts and send BTC to yourself so it LOOKS like the ponzi is paying out.  Then you get 1 BTC from "investors" and never pay them back.  It happens too often and all ponzis go bust so I support River.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: boumalo on March 27, 2014, 05:11:54 PM
I love how ponzis all say they have "blockchain proof" they are legit.  Sure, who are the addresses that the BTC is being sent to/from?  You can have a thousand accounts and send BTC to yourself so it LOOKS like the ponzi is paying out.  Then you get 1 BTC from "investors" and never pay them back.  It happens too often and all ponzis go bust so I support River.

Some are sc.ams; some shut down without notice; and the rest of them mainly benefit the ponzi owners and friends that are playing them

BUT it is not helping to make a list of ponzis players and insulting them or saying ponzis are cancer, it is a dangerous sc.ammy gambling game


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 27, 2014, 07:55:33 PM
Hey play away, but when you are supporting a ponzi then I will call you a shill. Sure you understand the difference, if you tell me you play a ponzi I could give 2 shucks less, but if you are like PONZI good PONZI good! Then I will shill list you lol

The guys who support them never step outside the bitcoin box to see how this looks from a far.


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: boumalo on March 27, 2014, 08:03:12 PM
Hey play away, but when you are supporting a ponzi then I will call you a shill. Sure you understand the difference, if you tell me you play a ponzi I could give 2 shucks less, but if you are like PONZI good PONZI good! Then I will shill list you lol

The guys who support them never step outside the bitcoin box to see how this looks from a far.

It does look bad and I wouldn't recommend playing ponzis to anyone I know in the real world nor hear but I think I am allowed to play ponzis sometimes and not being listed as an offender because I have posted at least as much saying ponzis are bad and dangerous as I have posted saying I have been paid
I lost playing ponzis so I am the guy you should like because you want to protect me so why do you insult me if you have my best interests at heart?


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: RiverBoatBTC on March 27, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
Your not on my list lol


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: boumalo on March 27, 2014, 10:20:01 PM
Your not on my list lol

oh right cool

I respect your fight except when you send huge red scam posts in ponzi threads bc it is a bit agressive and I would prefer a message explaining your position


Title: Re: Ponzi Killer inside-- 4 Down!!! Shill list inside
Post by: notserp on March 28, 2014, 05:03:55 AM
seems like theres alot more ponzis again