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Ethereum had a large prominence within the crypto space since launch, due to its flexibility for developing decentralized applications and launching ICO tokens. During 2017, Ethereum gained a lot of traction where it had massive transaction activity within its Blockchain network. This was largely attributed towards the rise of ICO's popularity, as well as, Blockchain-based games like CryptoKitties. While those times where exciting, everything came to an end as soon as transaction speeds became lower and fees spiked due to high network load.

After that, the ICO craze was no more, and people stopped using Ethereum more thoroughly. With the rise of other smart contract platforms with better speeds and lower fees than Ethereum, most developers and businesses have shifted towards well-known competitors of ETH. Now, many people are waiting for the PoS consensus upgrade to take effect, but developers continue to delay the same. After so many delays, it seems to me that Ethereum is starting to get old. The hype is over, and people are not so excited about ETH as they used to be within its early days.

Nonetheless, what are your thoughts about this? ???

More people are using Eth than ever before, for its intended use as a platform for decentralized applications. The ICO thing was always a distraction.

I would just say that do not get discouraged by these market movements i know most people here want to see the prices growing always but realistically this is not possible and secondly if we accept your argument that eth has become old then btc should not exist by now which is already 10 years old while eth has just entered its 4th year. If you support eth and the underlying technology then donot despair it is going to be huge just have patience.

I don't agree with you. First, ICOs and IEOs are still based on Ethereum platform more than others. Second, these days people are less interested in altcoins. So, less interest in Ethereum is normal.

Also I want to draw your attention to bitcoin. Bitcoin is now the oldest cryptocurrency. Many new cryptocurrencies have been created and had claimed to be better than bitcoin. But none of them were successful. I expect Ethereum to remain the biggest altcoin as it is the oldest altcoin. Not only oldness is not a disadvantage, it's an advantage.

The reason why price of ethereum never getting up to the level of Bitcoin is due to the same reason initial coin offering people want to cash out all the ethereum price list so that demand kept low in the recent years compared to Bitcoin but it is not going old are useless.

I don't think ethereum is getting old or useless like it used to be when it first launched. but for now ethereum needs to be further developed and changed its platform program to keep abreast of work processes by using the IEO program and leaving the ICO program so that investors will also get a refresh and fresh air from the current ethereum.

The development of crypto technology every day continues to grow. Ethereum has been victorious before, and now there is certainly another new blockchain that is more than ethereum. With so many competitors ethereum certainly does not make ethereum just die. ethereum blockchain is still widely used and can still compete. Sooner or later people will slowly start to move to blockchain that is faster and cheaper.

This shouldn't be a question instead a statement because ethereum is already old. The hype towards the project is gone, guess that's why Vitalik Buterin introduced the 2.0 to bring back that hype from expectation of investors but that isn't working effectively since no one is paying any attention to altcoins this period, the news is all bitcoin. ETH competitors irrespective of how decentralized they're, are doing quite well than ethereum was. Most popular example is EOS were transactions are instant with zero fees unlike ethereum blockchain.

ICOs which were a major contributor to ethereum success has been replaced by IEO which Binance is leading that industry and now that they have launch their very own blockchain who knows they might develop their DEX into conquering the crowdfunding industry and if that does happen, I don't think ethereum would have much effect in the industry. We now have other projects that offer similar feature of ethereum with better user experience and innovations. Ethereum is old (no question mark).

It is getting old, but that also means it is more battle-tested than other smart contract blockchains.

With that said, the entire project ecosystem should get a refund when (if?) they ever actually make the switch to proof-of-stake (PoS).

I personally think that sharding definitely needs to be implemented asap too, blockchain bloat is a SERIOUS problem for Ethereum, soon the size will be so large that nobody will want to run a full node.

Exactly, as you said, I also think about it a lot.
Currently, the number of ethereum dapps is still very much, but it seems to work inefficiently.
You can refer to it here:
https://www.stateofthedapps.com/stats

The number of EOS dapps is only 1/10 compared to Ethereum, but users, transactions, volumes are many times larger than Ethereum.

Even though I'm a big fan of Ethereum, I have to say it's getting old.

I'm quite sad about this, I look forward to Ethereum 2.0 and leap.

I do not think that it is worth agreeing with this statement. Now it’s just not a very successful period for ethereum and tokens released on its platform. If altcoins also increased in proportion to Bitcoin during the period of rising bitcoin prices from April to June this year, now there would be no such decadent mood regarding ethereum. Ethereum is not yet outdated and it still has opportunities for growth and development. Everything has its time. The ethereum time will be many more times.

That's certainly true, mate. However, I believe that Ethereum's dominance of ICOs and IEOs might come to an end as Binance Chain becomes a true contender of the same. It has already launched its own DEX, along with a token standard (BEP5) for the launch of ICOs and IEOs. Not to mention, Binance's smart contract platform will feature greater scalability and unparalleled performance than Ethereum. With various competitors around the market using superior tech and features than Ethereum, it might soon become outdated if developers do don't something about it.

The much awaited PoS consensus upgrade is taking too long into becoming implemented within the Ethereum blockchain. This will make people look for other alternatives which are more efficient than the pioneer smart contract platform. As businesses and corporations demand high performance for Blockchain operations, they'll look for more viable alternatives that provide faster and cheaper transactions than Ethereum itself.

As for being the one of the oldest coins in existence, it truly does have an advantage among other cryptocurrencies in the market. But sometimes it's necessary to move onto greater things, since other competitors are hungry of taking ETH's spot as the world's second largest cryptocurrency in market cap. By adopting Sharding, and Casper PoS in the least time possible, it can become comparable to other competitors which already make use of scalable technologies within the Blockchain space.

Nonetheless, Ethereum's success will largely depend on its level of development and mainstream adoption. It may still be the leader of ICOs and dApps, but that could change soon if other competitors take the lead in this regard. Which is why, it's important for the Ethereum team to bring innovation to the platform ASAP before it's too late. Just my thoughts ;D

ETH have to face a lot of new cryptos trying to do better what ETH does
I know there a lot of potential projects, but you have to consider the fact that ETH is already a solid project, working, with great devs and community, this is hard to beat

eth still one of best smart contract solution blockchain  and I don't think that there is a coin who is going to beat ETH &
EOS tried to dump eth
TRX tried too with Justin sun but they cant cuz he is going to jail soon

Eth is getting old because of there no update if any update publish that fail.so with out any update eth going to stay at 200 dollars only very few projects are still with eth.But when they leave eth will be in great danger

ethereum is getting older because many ico projects use their platforms but cannot develop properly, I mean there are many cases of fraud in ico and this is also one of the reasons that influence ico investor confidence and also the ethereum altcoin demand is decreasing.

I don't think so. ETH is overrated and that false showing is beginning to tell on it with various smart contracts in place now. ICO scams of 2017 also didn't help it as many victims of ICO scams didn't make good reviews of ETH. Many have abandoned that contract for new ones. I don't think ETH will ever get back to its ATH.

Hype is done for Eth. Try the new. All who say is not dying are eth holders who belive in miracles.

Ethereum looks very oldy because its not increasing in value or its dev and teams are slow in updating eth? well all i can say is lets all wait for the next big update to eth 2.0 and see how effective the POS will be and if nothing happen after few month then i will agree that ETH might be actually done for,im not holding eth at all but im not giving up on a very good altcoin like ETH just because of this year challenges so far

I would not call it getting old because there are other coins that are older than Ethereum yet still performing well. But because we live in a fast-paced world where technology reigns supreme, I think Ethereum will come good again if they can update and continue to innovate on their blockchain. Launching the PoS Consensus upgrade will be the first step towards achieving this

I would say ethereum is an oldy now and its hype has ended since it never got its price after the hyping again
 Those who still say ethereum will increase are the die hard fans of ethereum.

Based on your opinion, Bitcoin is also old. Till now, bitcoin has not reached the December 2017 price. So, what do you think? Should we sell our bitcoins and invest in a new crypyocurrency?

I don't think ETH will ever be getting old this soon. Their SDK is still in heavy development and they've shown progress since day 1 like their online code editor which deploys smart contract within minutes, then, web3j and other technologies are just too nice!

Few months or couple of years in crypto is like lifetime already of so many altcoins ever existed. So having ethereum up until today means that they are not like any other crap coin out there. But being old? There are much older coins than eth. But eth already cemented its position in the community because of the changes they brought to the crypto space. And up until now, they are in continuous pursuit of advancing their platform. They hype might be over but the dev team is still active in doing their respective jobs.

The current ETH situations seem to be disappointing as we all expecting for market surge but it doesn't mean that it will be going to die later. What we have now is not only ETH suffering such struggles but of the entire market as well. We could say that 2019 isn't the moment for altcoins, may we fail into our expectations this year, we have nothing to do but to accept what it is.

How you sure for that negative impression for ethereum, ethereum is useful for the crypto project space specially ICO but is doesn't means all ICO project is scam and ethereum are affected because use it in very ico project, ethereum is one of the most foundation in the crypto currency space to help build of all ico project which most of latcoins came from the ico project.

You have given the most important details out there and I agree to most of your ideas but you cannot deny also that Ethereum still remain as number two in coinmarketcap based on it's marketcap.

Though it's hype was not really there but the projects and it's holders are still there because there are solid projects already out there that were launched and it's operation is going stronger until today.

In my own perception, as ethereum coin getting old, it getw better in terms of its price, volume and capability. Before ethereum shines, it passes struggles and hindrances about ups and downs and then in the long run it gets popular anr known by its great volume and good price in the market. Now its capability is being more dominant in markets, although sometimes it slips its price but makes comeback right away and recovers.

I don't think that's the case, let's break it down.
Ethereum is only four years old it is still a young technology and so many things are still coming up like the PoS consensus upgrade like what you mentioned.
ICO does not have an impact at all, because we now have IEO and STO and companies still prefer Ethereum the volume will speak for itself
If people are losing excitement then how come the volume is still there and I still see some ICO and IEO accepting Ethereum, it's still preferable
I wonder how many people stopped using Ethereum, gambling sites, crowdfunding sites and online stores still accept Ethereum

The older it gets, more mature it would be. Let's wait for that maturity. Then ETH would be wiser with regards to the price movement.

ETH may have struggle but I'm not convince yet that it's already old and is not popular anymore.
What happen with ETH was the effect of the big pump during the popularity of ICO, and now slowly it's corrected to a lower price, however, this should not be viewed as a serious problem, unless other altcoins already recovers and ETH was still left behind, altcoins recovery has not come yet, so let us not judge too early, remain calm and continue to monitor the progress of ETH.

I think some of your observation are endeed true, Ethereum popularity for smartcontracts and dapp development was decline, But it doesnt mean that ethereum is getting old already. But most of known reason was the competition as we all know that unlike before "Ethereum was the monopoly of those services" but today many other platforms was already offered the same services in more effecient way, much faster speed and lower transaction cost. I think thats the main reason why Ethereum dominance in smartcontracts and Dapps development is declining,For the ICO's we should consider the Market situation, The fraudulent acts and scams that causing damage to the ICO market that was the big deal that need to be resolve. but lets give Ethereum a chance to implement its upgrade maybe its surprise us all.

ethereum was doomed from the start. i am mostly surprised about people's surprise when they see ETH going on the path that it was supposed to go. not to mention that it is a path that has been taken by many altcoins before ETH.
with unlimited supply, no immutability, with centralization and a huge premine and lack of scaling and ton of other issues, you should have been surprised if it weren't doomed.

as for the price, it is only short term pumps that keeps it alive. for example the 2017 pumps were the biggest ones that were accompanied by the ICO hype and together they led to a huge price rise that was unrealistic for such a project. so it had no other way to go but down 90%.

I'm not expecting it will moon, as long as the market situation remains the same, it's hard to expect on that, even if they will implement their new update.
People are waiting for that, but it doesn't create a big hype that will result to FOMO, not this time but it could give great improvement to ETH in the future as people sees that the team are working and delivering.

In case you have not noticed, old is gold in crypto. When you have a coin that is so stable that the changes do not need to be fast or immediate, when the changes in fact take forever to implement, because of difficult consensus and what not, then you know that's a sign of a good, mature coin. Bitcoin still takes the cake of course, but Ethereum's problems now are what actually changed my mind about it.

ICOs are just an early use-case. ETH is way way more than merely an ICO platform. It offers huge possibilities for automation across numerous sectors. Basically anything that can be defined using rules can be replaced by ETH smart contracts. The mortgage application process is one often-cited example. If anything in crypto will change the world, it will surely be smart contracts.

no doubt that the Ethereum is a bit old but not too old to sideline after bitcoin if there is any other coin that is Ethereum no doubt about it.

As old as ETH network is remember that some projects are released at the same time ETH was released too for example litecoin was facing the same present fate ETH is facing until this year begins and LTC start receiving  better upgrades and supports so lets give ETH time as well its too early to think that ETH is getting to old to keep up

ethereum will also continue to grow more and more and also more users, because I also believe that the development of ethereum prices will also increase this year, so I believe the price and ethereum price growth in the future will also be better.

Ethereum also have volatility, and it represents more altcoins, ethereum are easy to deal with smart contracts.
aside from the allegation that ethereum is getting old, you can see the difference between eth among the top five coins. 
If ethereums really gets old who dares to make an ICO using eth to invest rather than bitcoin that is much expensive.?

Its valuable because it actually has a decentralized mining distribution.  Gamers and poor people can use gpus while bitcoin is only dominated by asics.

Ethereum is old, that's true, but Ethereum is definitely not extinct.  Let's not be so quick to forget the awesome contributions of Ethereum in bringing forth unique projects built on its blockchain. Competition is always a welcome development, and for a fact TRON, EOS, and other new blockchain architectures like Binance Chain are really taking the shine gradually from ETH. I strongly believe ETH 2.0 will bring back Ethereum's glory, if not delayed further as always.

If they do not speed upt the process of developing Ethereum 2.0 they will have a real problems.
QuarkChain, Elrond, Harmony and Zilliqa already have working state sharding technology, aren´t you afraid that Dapps will start moving to faster blockchain solutions?

I don,t think its getting old and losing its popularity .The ethereum platform is well developed and his a bright future .The vast of ICO is making an affect on this platform but the platform will not survive in near future .However the market is going down and not only affect on eth only but also all the cryuptos are surviving now .So the i have firmly say it will be a good project for all time.

Ethereum is not getting old. It is getting a bit matured, as the developers are constantly working to remove the bugs and known issues. The platform is still used by more than 90% of the ICOs, despite doubts regarding the security. Other competing platforms such as QTUM, NEO and Cardano have gone down the drain and are becoming insignificant in the cryptocurrency market.

Every year something changes in the market , look at those coins that were in 2014-15 year and how much the market has changed during this time a lot of coins died , so can be with Ethereum.

ETH is the of the oldest and without any doubt the most used altcoin. As our market shows, old coins are never getting old. For example, just look at BTC with its ridiculous 7 tps and high fees, nevertheless, it is still the most popular crypto currency.

Etheium is not that old, the only problem is the huge count of rivals that are appearing almost every day so investors diversify their investments onto those project and leaving ETH.

Day by day scenario like this resulting in the Etherium collapse its price. the only thing they can do to prevent this is to release the Etherium 2.0 that they talking about. so that the investors will have some option again to return on ETH investment.

the development team said that ethereum 2.0 will be launched on January 3, 2020, the day when the first block of the Bitcoin blockchain was made ten years ago. Just waiting a few more months and ethereum will rise again with ethereum 2.0. Maybe this will be a turning point for ethereum to get better.
https://cointelegraph.com/news/ethereum-20s-phase-zero-scheduled-to-launch-on-january-3-2020-devs

Bitcoin and ETH are different. Just because they're the same 'old coins' doesn't their fate will be the same. There was a lot of case where coins die, even though they born early and one of the 'old coins'.

The reason why BTC is still at the top is simply that lots of people 'trust' and believe in the power od BTC. Unlike ETH, BTC is not born from ICO or something similar and has gone through ups and downs many times. There is no other chain which is more secure than Bitcoin atm while ETH faces a lot of competition. Let's see where their future lies. I doubt their 'leader' will let their beloved coins to die without getting any profits.

no, ethereum isn't too old yet. it's just that now it's having a problem, so it looks like it's no good. if ethereum can do an update, I believe ETH can return to good as before. so the point is they are still not old enough and can still compete with other platforms.

ethereum can still develop, it's just that eth is currently constrained by many ICO scams using their platform so that ETH is no longer as popular as 2017. I'm sure vitalic will create a new breakthrough for the future of ETH

I don't think people who are gamers or small time miners can actually mine ethereum anymore, that was valid until a point but if you try to calculate right now its either breaking even sometimes or even making a loss, it would be better to buy ethereum and wait right now instead of buying that many gpu and trying to mine ethereum.

There is no ASIC that is for sure (I heard there was some recently but that could be fake news) but there are tons of modified gpu systems that mine a lot more and they are running out of stock faster than they can build it which is why I think people who have mining farms like crazy are cornering the ethereum mining market and people with couple of mining rigs at their home would better mine something else to make their money from mining.

Never, segwit is the way a coin to evolve.
Just read a topic about ETH's related coins.
When it separates from mother's coin, there would be something more advanced than old one.
So, ETH (Atleast the name) would never gets old. It would evolve to adapt reality

Ethereum is not getting older. The project is constantly developing, and in 2020, we will see Ethereum 2.0 which will be something new. ICOs did not exist for a long time and they did not affect ETH popularity so much.
I suppose that Smart Contracts make this altcoin so useful (not only them sure). In the future, this token will not lose popularity.

Yeah, I thought about T17 model, what do you think?

I would take S17 as the price on S17 is very low on asicequipment, they really merely giveaways these rigs

Rin comparison with other sites, yes. Let me think

If people are no longer excited about Ethereum. I think you are wrong because until now there are still many people who focus on Ethereum. We know that very many coins nowadays, so investors like divisions. And I hope that the Ethereum is getting older and will start to grow again as in the year 2017.

Take your time. Always better to think twice before purchasing

I don't see reality on this post, nothing has changed ever since Ethereum's creation, it's still the go-to platform if you want to create your own token and this is the most popular coin that is being used in ICO payment, the evidence is its position in the market, still the number most popular coin in the market. 

Ethereum is still progressing until now, it is getting old but going stronger. I believe even if there are more coins that has a faster speed in tra sactions, investors tend to go back to the one particular coin that can be trusted and had more potential than the other coins, and that is ethereum. I still believe majority will still wants to deploy decentralized applications to their system using eth platform.

They isn't use ethereum platform but only copy paste what ethereum have. this case alot of developer only use ethereum shirt for them project and tell some people which eth platform they use can change the world.

It's getting old but it's getting better, there is no indication that investors are losing trust on Ethereum, I would have believed it if they slip in their position but the volume and the price will speak for itself, you can check new ICOs and you will see that they are still using Ethereum, and and all major exchanges have Ethereum as one of their main trading pair.

That does not show to its price and the development of ETH this year.
There's few demand of ETH since ICO is not anymore a good type of investment, so if there's something good about ETH, kindly let me know.


ETH just climbed first in the ranking, this year it was able to reclaimed its standing by replacing XRP, but if we look at the price movement of ETH this year, we would not see some good improvement, BNB has beaten ETH as it was able to create a new ATH this year while ETH struggles to recover.

Of course, the fact that 90% of projects still use this blockchain makes it clear that it is still the number 2 coin in the world of cryptocurrencies. I do not think that his position will shift in the near future. The only binance can move it in the future.

the truth is we cannot refuse, but etherum should do an evaluation by improving their products. by looking at competitors who are able to beat them in terms of transaction speed and costs, etherum should be able to evaluate this in order to stay competitive and not sink. I think sooner or later, etherum will make a breakthrough that can surprise the market.

Currently the foundation of ETH is considered a bit older. ICO projects are no longer much, but I still believe the Ethereum team, they will create a new platform with better smart contracts, correct many mistakes ...
In 2020, Ethereum will create a new trend that Binance did this year (IEO Launchpad). I still have positive belief in ETH.

Ethereum is still Altcoin that works well on its platform and projects running on ETH are still developing steadily, the team still contributes to the development of ETH, there is nothing to fear because of aging. A platform that has been stable for a long time.

Agree, ethereum is still widely used by many platforms and I think ethereum can still last for a long time. The developer team still looks compact and continues to patch up flaws and I think ethereum is still a favorite investment after bitcoin

Not old, but Buterin says it's getting full...
https://cointelegraph.com/news/vitalik-buterin-talks-scalability-ethereum-blockchain-is-almost-full

This is the right definition of what's happening on Ethereum, it's scalability, this is something interesting
I don't know if this one push through and Ethereum needs to do something on their scalability or a new token will come that can challenge Ethereum and it could be Eos ot Tron

He's since changed his mind it seems and has decided he'd rather piggy back on the Bitcoin blockchain, no mention of BCH at all recently.

If he doesn't do anything about it at the right time, a lot of developers will leave ethereum block chain and move to others. It is good we still have good projects on ethereum for now and some are still proposing to come on it, but if you ask other developers that are using other blockchians, they will tell you the one they are on is better than ETH.
This is a call to Buterin to fund the very possible solution to the scalability problem.

Mr. Buterin must do something in order to make ETH still on the race and people might not thinking that he don't care for his investors...This is one reason why some investors flew away and leave ETH as they feel that isn't secured to put funds in this coin. They'll probably be looking for new and most promising coin in crypto, if they could see it...eth will fall badly.

That’s right, even the new IEO they are still under the technology of ETH. Its normal to get old, but ETH is getting better like bitcoin. We can have a peace of mind with ETH because the future is still in favor to ETH. This is a platform that will continue to grow and help many altcoins to do their own business under its beautiful and strong blockchain.

maybe if we talk about other alts, we just wait a miracle mate
remember ethereum is the second best crypto after bitcoin,
and i believe this alts will break the past high soon or later

Bitcoin is older than ethereum, the transaction is slow and the fee is so high, do you think people stop using bitcoin?? No, because the community is huge. And see new project, some bring unique technology, unique concept but become dead, why?? Because don't have community

So old doesn't mean people stop using Ethereum. Because the number 1 about crypto is community

A lot of projects are still building on Ethereum and most blockchain games are with Eth which i think are going to take off.

I've thought about it many times. But ether still remains in demand. Yes, it has a lot of competitors, but people still continue to use it. Perhaps now is just a difficult time for the market, but soon the price of altcoins, including ETH, will rise.

You are absolutely right. The key here is not how long, but how popular and how much network is formed in trust in a coin.
Everything has a period, right? Likewise with the popularity and tastes of people, like the season that passed. News and rumours are very influential in the development of cryptocurrency prices. Everything is just waiting for time to bounce back again.

Although the ethereum network is very slow, but many users still prefer the platform because of ease of doing job. I await the switch from POW to POS which certainly has been over delayed by the network consensus programmers. It pains me trading on folkdelta that my orders are not easily shown when executed or when I place orders.

It's sad to realize it but Ethereum definitely got old. It's one of the largest blockchain and the development is too slow compared to the competitive smart platforms.
Ethereum is a loose foundation and without any visible leadership while most of the other similar platforms are working as a team. Ethereum definitely had a large head start but now some other platforms are catching up.

So why he don't make new one and why using BCH for his solution network?
He isn't focused on his ethereum and following another chain for resolving his problem, this aren't good for project solution like ethereum even has big cryptocurrency.

Although times are hard for Ethereum at the moment because of its current market movement yet I wouldn't say Ethereum is dead or old. The limited activities of ICOs on the market has caused great slack in Ethereum yet as more projects join the crypto space and utilize Ethereum Blockchain, Ethereum will recover.

Ethereum still young than bitcoin and have best quality on the future with higher price, almost an ICO and IEO use ethereum as their payment platform and have price effect for ethereum.

Nothing has change with Ethereum, it's still the same coin that we love before, you are right that it was really affected by the lack of demand in ICO now, but if there's some improvement in the future, still project developers will still choose Ethereum over the other platform, and when that time comes, we will surely see the market will benefited, and not only Ethereum.

Certainly.

Ethereum still have room for more success, apparently the market isn't that ready yet to give ethereum another chance to hit its peak. Investor we're focus more in BTC and still scared to give other crypto a chance, example are the ICO that are failing and didn't got a chance to be listed in exchanges even they have a promising platform.

As long as there is no alternative to Ethereum (I'm speaking about a real competitor with lots of transactions-per-minute and easy to use blockchain), it can be counted as old. Maybe just less popular.

I don't share your view that seems to imply that Ethereum is getting useless. It is getting old, yes, of course, but it is not getting weak. It may not be as aggressive as before, after so many projects built on its blockchain have failed, but it continues to be the best alternative blockchain there is. It just so happens that a lot of alternate cryptocurrencies are getting down, actually all of them. This is not just a special case of Ethereum. You take a look at Waves, NEM, NEO, Wings, and several others. They were giants in the crypto space before but they are now slowly going down as well. The good thing with Ethereum is that it remains to be the top altcoin, second to Bitcoin.

Also, I don't think Ethereum's fate is sealed when the ICO market is dying. It does not make sense to me. It does not have a significant correlation. Ethereum might have been the most popular platform for ICO projects but these projects have their own credentials totally apart from Ethereum's.

Something has changed mate, technically, we can say that nothing has changed, but publicity wise, Ethereum is losing it because people are losing hope on them, as the real use case they have is no longer that effective. Ethereum use to dominate the altcoins market, the fact they still on the second position now does not mean they are still ruling, there are so many other coins that are beginning to compete with Ethereum and already bringing down its prestige.

I think that Ethereum really needs to be up and running and fight hard to get that prestige back as we can see that they are no longer growing in value any longer, and ever since Binance introduced the IEO, many projects are migrating to their chain, if they  wanted to take the lead, when we started having that issue with ICO I expected that they ought to have been the one to find a solution to it.

As much as I like Ethereum, it's starting to look obsolete compared with major alternatives like TRON and EOS. Of course, slow and steady wins the race. But, if Ethereum keeps delaying new upgrades and improvements, these alternative smart contract platforms will take a portion of ETH's market share. It's all a matter of which platform could deliver scalable solutions first for the whole mainstream world to use. Both TRON and EOS have superior features, and a highly-scalable design. They may not be as widely adopted as Ethereum is, but they could sometime in the future if people recognize their true potential.

Despite these facts, Ethereum seems to be the most secure smart contract platform today. It's that security and resiliency which has allowed Ethereum to remain as the world's second-largest cryptocurrency by market cap. But it needs to act fast, if it wants to keep up with the competition in the crypto space. In the meantime, one could invest into Ethereum for the long term, while prices are still cheap. Once it becomes a PoS cryptocurrency and prices start rising, you'll earn a lot more money than you've ever imagined.

Nonetheless, Ethereum's hype may have gone through already, but it's still one of the oldest cryptocurrencies in existence with a large user base like Bitcoin. Being tried and tested over time, makes it one of those desirable cryptocurrencies by the masses. Hopefully, ETH would recover in price until it reaches its latest ATH. Just my thoughts ;D

Yes etherium it getting old right now but it have always a good prices on it and one of the top coins in the crypto that claim to a number two spot. Even this coins are old but there are ways this etherium always being a popular for us. And many of us are using this coins because a great potential of it.

I think that at this time ethereum has begun to have strong competitors. EOS, BNB Coin or Cardano can be competitors for ethereum in the future. There have been many projects that have switched from ERC20 to BEP and it is possible that this will continue because the developer team wants to be traded on Binance

Indeed true that Ethereum was already getting old, due to its been a years now that existed in cryptoworld. But its uniqueness still remain, so when it comes to its volume in the market, ethereum remain and always next into bitcoin steps. Even the market price for it was dumped recently, it doesn't mean it fall down continuously, of course not.

Although ethereum has a good price and occupies an important position in the market but I do not believe in the potential of ethereum as many years ago because something as simple as the subject says, it's old, it needs to rest and wait for a candidate to appear, ethereum will no longer fulfill any of our wishes. We should understand that it remains until now, because it has created so many relationships and links, in the short term, the market will depend on ethereum, but over time this can be erased, very sad but our dear friend is outdated and older.

i dont agree of your statement OP even if the market of ETH is still down the coin itself it still have demands on the people. Many apps are using eth right now as payments and also dont forget the ICO they are using the eth network as well as the STO and ITO

Yes, and the old coin price is 188$ for now.

I don't think about that point ( old & new ) but, if people still get ETH, trade ETH, it will be 2nd totem Coin of cryptocurrency world. Could you throw ETH back?

the older it gets though the more valuable it can be in crypto particularly ETH since its being used still even when there are platforms available. TRON i think its really a more ingenious platform but eth has more influence because it had been around and popular to users. if you take a look at the people in the forum, most if not all have eth in the wallets.

For me this is actually a pretty good thing because it is proven that ethereum is able to last long enough in rising or falling market conditions. in terms of fundamentals ethereum is pretty good. this is a good indicator if we really want to invest in ethereum because it has lasted long enough

yes because ethereum has a large community, in addition ethereum also has a smart platform with several ico projects so that it makes altcoin ethereum stay in this market even though it's old but there are still many who like and invest in it.

To some extent you are right. When the ether was just released it had a significantly greater influence on the market due to the fact that it had no competitors.
It has become a perfect platform for ICE, which has led to even greater growth in its popularity. However, now, Ethereum is not the only one of its kind, nor is it the most technologically advanced.
I am sure it will stay afloat only in the event of constant technical modernization.

it's true that ethereum is getting old but ethereum still survives on the market. ethereum is the biggest altcoin in the crypto market. I really believe in the potential that this ethereum has.

I don't think ethereum is already old as of this moment. Even there are competitors for ethereum that has lower fees and more faster transaction. Ethereum still kicking and alive.

Saying ethereum is old can be taken because of the current process of running projects which is through IEOs and not through. ICOs. The reason why etheteum was the king of the Altcoins was because of the use during ICOs but the different now is that, IEOs need no ethereum before it can proceed through project in an exchange. Also, ethereum have internal issue and when it be fix then there will be another hype which will benefit

The big issues have always been scalability and transaction speed according to Tron website they have a better transaction per seconds against Ethereum
TRX2,000 TPS
ETH 25 TPS
BTC 3 - 6 TPS

There's also a lot of Cryptocurrency with better transaction speed than Ethereum, it's just the fact that they are the first project that implemented token creation and smart contract.

Vitalik Buterin said that his coin will not be able to get its highest price. Since such a large-scale popularization will no longer be. Probably because of this he finished working on his "child". Today the Ethereum dying and this is no joke. Think about it and try to get out of this platform on time.

That was true ethereum is an old altcoin, so many competitor on smart contract thats so far it has become a mainstay of the platform, and this year not altcoin year, bitcoin still dominating above 60 percent on market and its not good for old altcoin like ethereum, ripple, stellar etc

indeed, ethereum is still a favorite altcoin for investment. many projects currently make their own wallets, but we know ethereum is still dominant. I think what holds on is that investor confidence in ethereum is still high, so the potential for altcoin is still good, and I still hold it to date from the price of $ 85. and hopefully my analysis is correct

Although Ethereum is not performing much as compared to the year 2017, the long bear market of 2018 affected the market and most ICOs failed to reach their set targets. This reduced the patronage of Ethereum because most ICOs preferred ETH as it was referred to as the ''King of ICO''. Now, the has been a paradigm shift where projects prefer IEO.
However, Ethereum is still alive and making recovering looking at the its price movement from the beginning of Q3 2019.

I think Eth itself cannot be valued outside of the crypto currency sphere.
Eth is old , yes but whether it continues to be used and thrives all depends on the collective perception of the public of all crypto, ie Bitcoin etc. If people think are crypto are more hassle than they're worth , Eth (along with all others will become irrelevant). If by some chance, the mainstream media start singing the praises of any crypto and the sheep-like public start buying , then ETH's value will rise up

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Do not despair. Will still be changing. According to the general law of development, Bitcoin will not be able to maintain a high level of capitalization for a long time. The best altcoins in the future will constantly take it away. The future of Ethereum depends on the improvements that are being prepared for it next year. This coin is still able to rise to the proper level.

We just wait for Ethereum team to make the latest innovations to improve features that are more sophisticated than ever because I believe the season of Ethereum will still continue to be largest Altcoin than other.

Ethereum is not old nor it will be ever. As, you know this is the infant stage of the cryptocurrency market. If the market legally accepted in every economy they think what will be the demand for the BTC, ETH, Ripple and that other giant. So, never mis-understand about the Ethereum future because this coin has remain many potential for the future growth of all other token as the token are created on this platform.

We could determine if Ethereum is becoming useless or old if the demand of the platform is really fading but until now still it was the most commonly used platform in the crypto space despite of bearish market trend therefore it  clearly shows that Ethereum is still the most in demand smart contract platform as it was already tested and trusted by most of the crypto users in the community.

Agree, until now, the value of ethereum transactions at various exchangers is still large and there are still many tokens that use ethereum networks. I think ethereum will still last a long time because the developer team continues to develop the technology.

Ethereum seems to be losing its supporters lately. The coin has failed to do well lately as compared to bitcoin. But this along does mean that Ethereum has fallen behind. It is facing many ups and downs as Bitcoin did in the past. Obviously the coin will regain its position and glory again.

Exactly. Nowadays, there are various smart contract platforms with greater scalability than Ethereum, which greatly threatens its very existence. The Ethereum development team needs to act fast, if they want the platform to succeed and retain its rightful place in the market. Mainstream businesses, corporations, and merchants are already recognizing the benefits of alternative platforms like TRON and EOS. Such platforms deliver massive transaction capacity without charging fees at all. This will look quite attractive for developers looking to create tokens for ICOs, gaming, and other purposes. If Ethereum takes too long to scale its Blockchain network, then I'm afraid that the previously mentioned platforms will take the lead in the dApps market.

Despite this, there's still hope that Ethereum will remain as the world's second largest cryptocurrency by market cap. With a dedicated development team and supportive community, it could continue to rise at an unprecedented rate. Still, scalability is a must for the Ethereum blockchain to survive within the mainstream world. Once that's solved, then ETH will rise again towards its former glory.

Nonetheless, many people are still waiting for Casper PoS to become a reality within the Ethereum blockchain. It might be old nowadays, in the sense that the hype and excitement for the cryptocurrency is over, but it could gain traction once more with new upgrades. Hopefully by 2020, we'd get to see a new version of Ethereum with a fully functional PoS consensus algorithm that would take the world of smart contracts by storm. Just my thoughts ;D

I expect that at the end of this year or at the beginning of 2020 we will see a new Ethereum and the price for a coin will be more than 400 dollars.

In my opinion, the most valid reason why the value of ethereum has been unable to increase substantially over the years, like bitcoin is because of the infinite supply of the tokens. Bitcoin has a maximum supply of 21 million and even till date less than 18 million is in supply and that's why the price could skyrocket effortlessly.

ETH has been showing a bit of decline. But have a look at BTC, it has faced rough years and rough days but still managed to hold onto that number 1 spot as crypto king. These market movements are something that doesn’t last, and these kinds of movements happen more often than not.

We'll see. After all, Ethereum's been delaying it's PoS upgrade for quite some time. The only way that Ethereum will reach new ATHs in price, would be if such upgrade takes effect into the Blockchain. Other than that, people's interest into Ethereum will decline. Ethereum's upsurge in popularity and price was largely attributed to the rise of ICOs. Now that ICOs are a thing of the past, Ethereum is starting to become old. We already have various scalable smart contract platforms (TRON, EOS, ADA and others) which are far superior than Ethereum itself. At any time, mainstream startups and companies could decide to use these Blockchains on top of ETH because of the many benefits they provide.

Which is why, I believe that Ethereum's Casper PoS and Sharding upgrade is a must in order to gain traction within the mainstream world. After that, hype will rise in the same way as 2017. In effect, Ethereum's demand will reach new heights where there will be FOMO across the crypto market.

Nonetheless, Ethereum may be getting old but it could survive if its competitors lack mainstream adoption. The first-mover advantage of ETH might prevent any other cryptocurrency from taking its place in market cap. We'll just have to wait and see what the outcome will be for ETH within a couple of years from now. Just my opinion :)

Ethereum is really the coin that exists on the cryptocurrency market for a very long time.
I will not say that Ethereum is aging, it is becoming stronger and more reliable.
There is nothing better than a coin that is tested by the conditions of market volatility.

Major projects still prefer ETH. At least those who are interested in the reliability and safety of their project, and not only in short-term investments. So I think everything with ETH should be fine.

Ethereum network utilization is around 90%, a large part of that is Tether. So it's not from lack of use that the price is not keeping up.

The emergence of new coins in the cryptocurrency market is always a good sign.
This means that the market is in motion and it lives.
Ethereum is a legend among altcoins, so a large number of people trust it.
I think the belief in Ethereum will only become stronger with time.

As long as there are still projects backing Ethereum, there should be nothing to worry about. Development has been quite strong over the past months, despite a steep decline in interest among everyday people. Sooner or later, the Ethereum blockchain will scale towards millions of TPS becoming extremely versatile for smart contracts. While other platforms are ahead than ETH in terms of scalability, they're still lacking security and reliability. That's something important to consider, since it's not about speed or efficiency but rather long-term sustainability. I guess that's the reason why ETH is still the second-largest cryptocurrency by market cap.

Ethereum may be getting old in the short term, but demand will rise again with the upcoming developments of the platform. ICOs are over these days, but the world's most popular smart contract platform could prove to become the home of IEOs and STOs. With a proper regulatory framework for digital securities (especially within the US SEC), ETH could gain traction among institutional investors worldwide. But we have to be patient in order to obtain good results with ETH. Just my thoughts ;D