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Reasons why i prefer mining coins than investing a dime on IEO/ICO projects
1. My profits is assured.
I dont have to wait for a project to do x3 or whatsoever to get profits on my invested cash,with better mining rigs and good calculator you will know when your ROI will come.

2. No worries of getting scammed
I dont have to investigate an exchange before investing or wasting time doing research on projects before investing,all i do is mine ETH and sell for fiat or decides to hold for a little while.

well thats for you,i prefer investing than mining,its less stress for me than having to worry about GPUs running obsolete or faulty rigs and moreover there are times that your earnings will be lower than expected due to higher mining difficulty

Unlike me who is more interested in investing in ICO / IEO rather than mining. I am not blaming those of you who like both of these for two reasons.
Investing in ICO / IEO is more profitable because of the bonus provided. If mining, requires tools that I do not know how.

Surely mining is a good option if you have cheap electricity and easy availability of hardwares. You are not only earning coins for you but also helping the blockchain. The more the number of miners, the more distributed the currency would be. But mining can't be the sure shot way to profit for most.
The sure thing about mining is you get the number of coin you estimated but that necessarily does not assure profit as the price of coins keeps on fluctuating.

I do not understand you are referring to exploiting here literally or exploiting in the cloud or using speeding rental services of mining companies. But if you literally mine crypto, it must be accurate, mining always gives you a more stable and sustainable income than investing in risky ICO / IEO projects.

Yes I prefer to do mining too if I have a mini farm of Gpu and have a lot of free energy power (independent energy) :D. The worst enemy of mining method are only electric cost. If you can handle that, more profit you will got.

Mining is not that profitable compared to investing in IEO projects,you dont have to be techy to invest in projects but many investors still find it hard to setup a mining rig,its really difficult for some people sp these kind of people will always choose investing in projects than investing in mining rigs

In my opinion, mining is much more complicated and requires a technical know how to get the best out of the process. The fact that the hardware gets obsolete easily and one needs to make consistent expenses to maintain the mining rigs makes me scared. I have also heard several persons say mining is not profitable unless you're a large scale miner and in all these the market still determines how much you earn because the value of cryptocurrency are not stable.

You can make money from mining and if you are confident with the job, you should stay focused.
Everyone is not always lucky in mining. So you are very lucky because mining makes you can survive.

Investing in ICOS and IEO has a risk but common.
I prefer investing in ICOS and IEO, although it is difficult but if lucky is able to make great profits.

Everyone wants to look for profit, and everyone has different thoughts in looking for profit, mining is good and profitable, but investing is also not wrong, because through investment can also benefit, even though the way it works is different from mining, if I may know on which site you make mining?

You must not be thinking that the electricity cost in every country is different. And yeah mining is not as simple as you think. You need to prepare that your rig also needs a treatment sometimes.
You need to pick what's the best coins that you can earn easily and gives you fast ROI. And I can say that's a little bit complicated.

Yes mining is more complicated than investing in IEOs,there are some other things to consider when runing mining rigs e.g
1. Cost of electricity
2. Switching from one coin to another when they are not more profitable
3. Graphics card can do overheating and get ROD
4. Motherboard can become faulty anytime

It will depend on the country you live. In our country, mining Bitcoin and even altcoins is not profitable because of the expensive electricity. If you live in a country where electricity bills are cheap then good for you and mining is for you.

As long as you mine a coin that has been existing for a long time already then you will not be scammed. There are some coins that are new and can be mine but in the end, they will be a scam coin.

Mining is not easy and most people will not be able to generate a profit by doing it due to electricity costs. An IEO is preferable to an ICO because it is hosted by an exchange, which means their reputation is on the line. If the IEO doesn't go well, the exchange will lose traders so IEO's have to be carefully vetted.
 

Mining not suitable for everyone, and electricity is high in some countries and some altcoins not mineable, so the best choice is investing, but should choose the project to invest carefully

Mineable coins and coins that goes through ICO and IEO are completely different in nature. Though you may argue that you can buy the tokens with the profit of mining, still that doesn't mean you compare the too for profit.
If you are to really care about profit, investing in ICO and IEO would leave mining way behind as it takes years to get back the ROI in mining startup while you can achieve it well within months if you invested in a good project.

Totally true it's not worth it especially since electricity costs cuts the profit to a very high degree. Plus it's hard to find coins to mine which has a good profitability. It's good to invest in IEO's/ICO's but considering the high no.s of projects which later on wents scam I don't think it is also that profitable.

Mining is solely profitable when you have cheap or free electricity, also buying the rigs isn't cheap as well. Investing in IEOs or ICOs seems a fair play for those not exposed to electricity or can afford mining rigs.

I see someone has already created a thread about mining right now is wasting of time but i must agree with you consider about we get the rigs that can be sold anytime. But you should investigate the coin that you will mine it.
As far as i know it's no different with ICOs and there was a lot of scam POW coins right now.
Im a miner and still mine the major coin but that needs a lot of effort and rig to earn a decent amount. Im doing both and never got any problem.

It's your method but everyone don't like mining. Yes you are right on your point that mining is not risky than investing IEO/ICO projects. But it's possible that many people can't buy proper equipment for mining. A good place, power and lot of good quality machine need for mining but other hand you just need a computer, internet connection and some research to invest ICO/IEO projects.

You don't need to be worries of getting scammed but you need to be worry about your machine and electricity though. So doesn't matter which way you try to earn you have to face some problems.

Free electricity is what makes mining reasonable to me nowadays,if you have this then you are good to go,i personally like moning coins and sell on exchanges than investing money on new projects like ICO AND IEO,anything can happen when tou invest on them,to me mining coins is way more safer than investing in projects

I think everything you do is indeed very profitable. but do not you not realize if in conducting a mining you need to spend so much money at the beginning to make purchases of all equipment needed in the mining work process. maybe you do not feel because you have enjoyed the mining earlier, but for some people it becomes a difficult thing to get. and for some people who have mediocre initial funds will definitely prefer to invest first and hope to get a profit which will then be used to purchase mining equipment earlier.

Mining is more profitable than investing in ICO and IEO, but mining requires more funds, sufficient time and skills that are capable of mining. If ICO and IEO we only need research that we think the project is good for the future then we put money and wait without spending a lot of time and big money.

I have never mined anything because I did not explore it, but many people say that mining now is not in accordance with what is obtained

And if it's IEO, what about us and research it so it doesn't fall prejudice.

The problem of mining is its price and profit that you are making from those investments. As far as I know, ETH mining is really unprofitable, because the price is too low, electricity costs are very high and the difficulty is too high as well.

If the electricity price is high, you may suffer losses

ICO, IEO, and mining is a work that can make a profit. Of course, to generate profits must go through a process that is not easy and requires hard work. Mining for some people is certainly very difficult because it requires equipment that the price is not cheap and electricity should continue to flame. So people would prefer to invest, like in IEO or ICO.

Yes, he hasn't mentioned anything about the electricity consumption charges. As of now mining is profitable in countries where the electricity consumption cost is low. With the present value of ethereum in my country it is impossible to pay even the electricity consumption of the miner. I too belive investing is good, because to set up a miner initially requires a huge investment.

If one is gonna invest for the first time into mining, then I suggest investing the same into some potential coins and hold for certain time period to get the best out of the investment.

Your reasons are all valid but the big difference between mining and ICO/IEO investing is simply capital, it's not everybody that has the huge capital it would require to start their own mining operation and turn a profit, unlike ICO/IEO where you can easily double your money with just $1,000 if it's a reputable exchange IEO.

It depends on the kind of mining you mean because so.many platforms that has offered cloud mining services has turned out to be scams in the end, unless you mean buying a mining rig and setting it up by yourself, I guess this is where I have to remind you that 79% to 80% of miners in South Korea shut down their mining activities in 2018, some even filed for bankruptcy, I guess that speaks for itself.

First, I think the headline of your post needs to be edited because it does not represent the body of your message, your headline says you prefer both why the body of your post says otherwise. I dint know about your first point because I thought till the coin that you are mining increases in value too before you can have some gain, which mean you are also in the same shoe as an investor.

For me, I think I will prefer to invest than to mine, and when I talk about investing, I mean short term investment because I am a very good trader and with trading, I can take my own profit instantly which if I really know how to trade well, I could take much more profit than the person that has been on mining for year depending on the coin that I am trading.

I prefer invest and trade, mining not profit for all the coins, especially if the income less than electricity.

If you can make a profit from mining, it will surely be a better option than investing in ICO/IEO. The rate of scam projects and failed projects are quite high, you need to know how to invest.

We have our own choice here of where are we going to invest our money. Perhaps, for you you really preferred for investing mining rigs because for you its easy and you can afford to have it. But for ordinary people like me its not practical, so I am much preferred to invest in the IEO or ICO, and I knew majority of the community here are in favor to that methods to get profit in the end.

You can say that, but I don't think that all people will have the same thing as you. We live in many countries, and we don't have the same situations as you. But if you decide to choose to mine and to invest in the ICO/IEO, then you're good to go, and as long as you can take the profit from both mining and investing, then you will get the money.

But for people who don't want to choose to mine or to invest, they can choose to trade, but they need to learn about trading. We have a different method to earn money from cryptocurrency, and I am sure that every people will get what is best for them.

My personal opinion about Crypto Mining (https://cryptolinks.com/cryptocurrency-mining) is very positive but it’s only sensible to go for if we have sufficient knowledge for it. If we lack that it will just be crazy for us to go for mining. The right calculation is very important for the success in mining, it is just next to impossible without it. So our priority has to be the collection of knowledge when it comes to mining. If you go ahead without it then you are moving towards sure-shot losses.

You have a very good point there for mining as the most safety investment over the buy of ICO/ieo in any project but not all people can mining as the cost of rig and the electricity for mining is at high side but are OK compare to some country , I wish I could mine too but light is not stable in my country which can be a barrier to the mining and if one know which coin is more prefer to invest in and hold for long time will also be good.

If you can get cheap electricity then mining can be profitable for you. However, the price of money is always fluctuating so you cannot know how much your profit is. Some of my friends have been mining bad money and when it has depreciated they have made a loss.
Because I'm not good at computers, I prefer to invest in IEO.

This is your own method but to so many others love ke me we will do otherwise, I rather get involved in trading more then just mining cause it cost me less to trade then setting up a mining farm.

I've done some profitable mining in the past, but it was just not worth the hassle for me in the end.
You need a dedicated room for mining, your miners go obsolete pretty quickly and the profits aren't all that great unless you can scale up quickly.

That said, I've never invested a dime into ICO or IEO's, I stick to investing in projects that already have a product.

Mining is actually a good way to make money from cryptocurrency and it is also profitable too and is not very vulnerable to scams like investing in IEOs and ICOs

But the thing is it is only done by a few percentage of the whole crypto market and not everybody has the knowledge of mining.

You are right that mining is more legit and real business but nowadays things are not easy to generate profit from mining either this is because of increasing equipment costs, increasing electricity price plus mining factors that influence the efficiency of the mining rig, then comes the price of eth and difficulty of mining and lastly the greatest threat to eth miners that eth will be moving to pos from pow so that eth can no longer be mined, so things are not as simple as you have stated.

You are probably one of the few miners who can still earn this way. I wonder what power you have? And how much do you pay for electricity? Is your farm in rented premises or do you keep it at home? If at home then how do you fight a very high temperature in the room?

True, what the OP explained was the advantage of mining. On the other hand, mining requires substantial capital, maintenance costs, electricity and internet bills, and other costs. For those who lack experience and knowledge about mining like me, it's quite difficult. Moreover, the capital is quite large. To overcome that, cloud mining is present, I think this is quite effective.
Personally, I prefer a way that suits my abilities and passion, one of which is trading, joining bounty, and joining the trading competition.

Mining really is a good option than ICO/IEO only if you have the resources to run a mining farm. It would consume large amount of power and a powerful rig is needed to cater the data processing faster.

Indeed. Not only requires tools, but it also needs some money for electricity funds. However, I also don't know whether mining this coin only needs lower funds or using the application. Probably, we have to learn more about it. For, sometimes, every project has its own mechanism of mining.

It will need someone who has a high economy, would make sense if the rich will become more rich after that. Mining with sufficient funds, will only get losses, so money in the pocket is a solution to patch it.

I must tell you the true scenario of my friend in mining some coins. He bought mining rigs and he thought that mining a particular coin will give him huge profits. At first, since that coin was new released, it give him high returns. But now, he is dripping down. Why? The cost of electricity is so high, he pay the bills, internet, maintenance. And, the coin he's mining drop down to almost no value and that give him no profits at all. It ate up all his efforts and time but at the end he gave up mining and concentrate only in trading.

Anyhow, since maybe mining for you gives you enough benefits. Good for you, OP. Maybe you did the right way of mining and you did choose the right altcoin to mine.

mining requires a lot of adequate tools and there is a need for large capital to be able to produce real. I'm more interested in becoming a bounty hunter and also in altcoin trading. Bounty Hunter is now my passion for the past 1 year.

in this case you are taking the main door, as you say that you are mining ethereum while many ICO / IEO projects use the erc20 platform, so you are in the main line and don't have to bother hunting down erc20 / eth tokens through the ico / ieo project.

Mining required a good hardware with a strong system and it is not guaranteed that mining will give big profits as profit depends on lot of factors. Mining required a big investment and knowledge to start. I prefer IEO on mining.

Your profits are assured? For how long you are in the market?
ICOs and IEOs are the most risky ways how to cumulate more ETHs and BTCs. Also mining is not profitable when price is falling. So lets start think about a new strategy.  ;)

You are a very good miner if you get in today's market and the capacity to profit from mining. Yes your idea is a very good way of earning but few of us will be able to bring this method to life. This is due to the fact that electricity is very expensive and there are huge corporations who have very powerful equipment. So personally, I can't recoup my investment.

You have some nice perception on there mate but we cant really deny that there are people who do like to have that fast profits on a short period of time without the need on waiting up for how many months or years before they can make money out of their investment.

Knowing that IEO coins can possibly give out profits on a short span and that's what majority would like and prefer on than on a costly mining set-up just earning a small but somehow those point you had said is actually valid.

It would be very interesting to know what exactly you are mining, I suppose you are talking about some alts which can be mined by video cards still?

The negative side is that you need the investment first and only  then you will start to get ROI slowly , not to mention needing the know how.

I prefer investing in IEO rather than mining because if you want a good earning from the mining then it requires huge investment ad it is not guaranteed that we get profits from mining because there are many other expenses like electricity bills.

mining rigs are costy but if the electrill bills on your country is not expensive , you can easily recover your roi in no time  . you can earn passive lifetime income from mining but of course not all countries have blessed with low electric bills  . most developing countries do known to have expensive electric charges  . this is why some will only prefer investing on cryptos or investing on ieo/ico  because they are more less costy and still profitable at the moment

yes from the very beginning I entered crypto I first learned to understand good ways and produce crypto I did mining, and some I also invested in ICO projects, because for me it was also a good way for me to generate profits in the long run. because the project that I invested also has a long future

I understand the logic behind your decision and it's well thought about. I read about mining not being as profitable as it used to be, especially if you live in country where the cost of power supply is high, mining maybe at loss, what do you say about this ?

Mining is no longer profitable if you are mining a high end cryptocurrency such as Bitcoin, Ethereum and top 10 cryptocurrencies. But if know and smart enough to figure out a potential newborn project, I think it is not impossible to get a huge profit from the mining. Just like what we were seeing when RVN came up last year.

I do not think this is true. You spend the resource of your equipment in order to get coins. In the end, nothing to get. So your strategy is absolutely wrong. Even with a failed project, the hunter is upset. And you say that you mine a month and there’s nothing to worry about if you don’t get paid for it.

Do you know is site glob-mining com a good seller? I haven't found any reviews at all, who knows?

Yeah, a good one, as I personally know them. Bought from there  with no shipping delays. For short, no bad experience at all.

Is shipping free? One guy told about free one but I know for sure, that S&H cost a fortune in US. No?

No not free, 100 USD per order. Not per unit but per order.

Yeah, I thought about some asic miner but I can not decide what model to chose. What do you think?

I would have taken S17 pro as the price on is very cheap on glob-mining com

I need some more time to consider, I would take into account you personal adivse too.

Take your time. Always better to doublecheck other possibilities before purchasing anything!

you are lucky if you entered crypto and started mining at the right time. many people bought miners and started mining when it was not profitable at all.

There are of course scam mining projets. The same way you need to do research before investing in either ICO or IEO, the same way you should also carry out research on the mining project to join. Although, you can choose to mine coins that have already been confirmed to be legit and that have existed for a long period of time. Although, I am in doubt if mining is still profitable.

I am more interested in investing than mining because in my country electricity costs are quite expensive and difficult to get mining equipment,especially the current coin price is too cheap and if we calculate the electricity costs will be very small profit that we get.But investing is more profitable because now is the season  IEO, we can participate in large exchanges like kucoin or binance

I think your profit in mining is not guaranteed. If the price of cryptocurrency down,
you will have to pay the electricity bill higher than the coin you get.
And you won't getting scammed indeed, that is the risk of investing ICO/IEO.
My conclusion, every investments must be have some risks involving, we should manage wisely.

Maybe you're comfortable with finding money through mining. Everyone is free to determine their choice. IEO and ICO businesses have a risk and I think mining also has a risk. If you are comfortable with mining and can make a profit, I think you should keep on surviving.

My personal opinion will still continue to invest in ICOS and IEO. As long as we do the research before deciding to join the business.

However, I suggest you try investing in ICOS and IEO.

Investing on ICO or IEO havetwo chance lost or profit, but put your money in mining you need be patient for waiting profit more than one year and IEO or ICO just take short time.

That's your choice and I respected that would be suited to your needs. But as for me I cant choose mining over investing as electricity costs a lot in my country and its not really profitable. But for me I think that investing and holding for long term is much profitable than investing in newly projects that might not succeed in the end.

We have different preferences. I think joining IEO from a huge exchange is worth it if youre after the profit alone, just play with the ATH and do some analysis for trading cause there is a chance after you sell it then it will go down and you can buy back then sell again for another pump round. Many aspect can be source of info such as fundamental or technical, I happen to sell some of my ieo tokens and buy back for a very low price then able to sell on a good price again. Mining is profitable but yeah if you have patience and dont want to risk in trading then this is the business for you.

As for me, investment is much better than mining. In fact, this is the most universal cryptocurrency earning scheme in 2019 for those who have free assets that they are  not afraid to lose even if they fail. Mining now is very complicated The fact is that this business now requires extremely expensive equipment, high energy costs, knowledge of the equipment configuration and physical space for storing your miners.

There is a big problem with costs for holding such equipment and the life cycle of miners. A regular miner can work around 1 year and if everything goes well, you will even get profit, but if crypto drops, you will pay for electro costs without earning a penny.

Mining comes with zero worries of loss of capital or waste of time. But not many persons can afford a mining rig or said requirements in such situations, its good to invest in projects after their IEOs or STOs or ICOs when their true prices is revealed on exchanges as such worries of dump is reduced as such projects already dumped.

Mining is the best means of earning in the cryptocurrency. ICO was cool until last year when scams took the advantage of it to scam people. And on IEO, the problem is that the project team will sell at a high price for you and in the tell you they have no power over the price when the token price fall by almost 90% in just a week.

To me, mining is the best and assured means of earning aside buying cheap a d selling high.

Are you considering NULS SCO at all too?

That's your opinion and should be respected, however I prefer investing than mining owing to the cost of electricity in my location and mining equipments, so I don't think it's profitable for me. Also, when I say investing, am not referring to ICO but rather IEO in major exchanges; I prefer trying my luck in IEOs and so far have had some wins and some losses too. At least IEO in major exchanges do not come with scams, so in ramifications better for me.

Sincerely speaking, you have been Frank enough. Atleast with mining you are assured of some profits maybe not as huge or quick as ICO returns might be. Mining might even be considered as a better calculated investment than ICO because of the controls you have over it. All you need to do is get your mining rigs and calculations right, then you are good to go

I do agree on this IF and only IF.

`You are living in a country with low cost of energy, this one is also in the expenses line and we should include this why we are mining.
`The weather, the colder the better, mining needs a good temperature to maintain. Aircondition is another expenses on the list.

Mined deduct the expenses (add maintenance), calculate if you are gaining good then go on.

You are right. That is the advantage of mining compared to joining ICO / IEO / Bounty. Of course, to be able to enjoy this advantage, large funds are needed to prepare mining equipment, maintenance and electricity costs, or service costs when using cloud mining. Everyone has their passion. It doesn't matter if you can handle it. Because I do not have the experience and knowledge that is qualified about mining, capital is also limited, so I prefer to join bounty and daytrading.

Your points are valid but I think only those in an energy efficient environment, that is those in places where the cost of energy is cheap, will enjoy mining the more, of which I guess you are one. The truth is mining comes with peace of mind, if only one is mining the right coin and with the right equipment. Nevertheless, I prefer investing in IEOs to mining, although it comes with its challenges but when it is based on exchanges like Binance, Kucoin, Gate, Okex etc then profit is sure. So in my own opinion, i think it's worth the effort and attention more than mining, since I won't bother about energy cost, etc.

You ask about your personal opinion  "Mining and investing in IEO/ICO ". Until now I tried to invest and do a Bounty campaign. It is, in my opinion, easier and can give me a profit. Especially in the year 2017, many of the advantages I get.

I have not been mined because I think it is very difficult and requires supportive equipment. Although investments can deal with fraud, I think it's not a problem, because before determining the choice we can do some research.

in general, mining is more profitable than investing in a place. but, mining can also be said as an investment, and it requires quite a lot of costs to build it. In addition, there are many things to consider, such as taxes, electricity costs, and hardware maintenance costs. it all needs to be considered. because of this, sometimes people prefer investment over mining.

From some points of view mining seems better than investing your money via ICO/IEOs.

However, you need to take into account some key factors before comparing these 2 options:
- mining devices cost
- electricity cost
- coins halving, meaning that with time you will receive less coins
- volatility of the price on market

Mining coins already on the market such as ethereum is indeed more profitable especially if the price continues to rise. But not everyone is interested in mining coins because of many factors and one of them is expensive mining equipment. ICO or IEO in my opinion is like speculating with high risk but also promising high profits as well if the project is good and traded on a good exchanger

What you do not mention is that mining is capital intensive, the money needed to start up a profitable mining rig is beyond the rich of many whereas one can start investing/trading with little and build on it. Most who come from countries where electricity is too expensive or where supply is unreliable know that mining is not an option but trading can be done even from a mobile device.

i dont know if minning is still worth to do right now, my mean you can ignore about how much electricity will cost for doing minning. In here in my country it something imposible to get profite although the price of coin is high enough. You know the electricity is the real problem. and how about the device maintenance cost.

I think it is not easy.  It will consume a lot of electricity and create many risks in equipment damage and machine maintenance.  The minning coin if you want to make a profit, you must invest with a large business with modern machinery and must have high technical expertise.  Because of these characters, I chose investment as the best method of making money.

I'm fond of investing instead of mining, it is useful for me and definitely without depress. On another hand, for mining, l don't have enough equipment, energy power. It depends on your situation, if you have all of them, what l have told about. Mining is more valuable than investing. Maybe you have more chance to do it, in your country electricity bills are cheaper than in my country. Mining is not as profitable as the investment and the miner should continue to do the mining service for taking the initial investment. Investing in the ICO is totally another kind of risk but the risks are less in the crypto mining from my experience.

Your points are valid but learn to take calculated risks.  Sometimes investing in some good IEOs give reasonable profit, for instance, I made huge profit from SERO on gate.io. It's necessary to ensure you do thorough research before making any decision anyway, since the risk involved is high. I'm not saying mining is not cool, but it's not so profitable nowadays for individual miners.

Your points are right but there are also risk and factors that you need to think of when you mine. First, you need to mine those altcoins that has assurance that you can sell quickly and has high liquidity.
Next, you need also to check your rigs if they are working perfectly and of course taking care of them is a must. You may not know on how long the span of your boards, CPUs and GPUs.

Yes mining is good, I have a friend in a good place or location where the cost of electricity isn't much, so he bought mining equipments and have recorded good success. But however, on my side, the cost of electricity isn't friendly so i don't mine rather I find investing (IEO to be precise) as a better option. All that is needed is a good research on any IEO and most importantly the exchange it is taking place on. With the right research, exchange as well as "hype" you can make a good return in most IEO, although they come with their own risks.

You are right, from mining you can get a stable and constant income. However, you need to invest in mining not one thousand dollars, but at least several tens of thousands. To buy such equipment that can mine good coins already traded on exchanges.
If you have poor equipment, then you can only mine young coins that have just entered the market.

And with the risk you are referring to him, it is enough for people to understand that the profits from the mining are not always guaranteed, it has a lot of factors to decide, firstly, his choice needs to be rational, if he chooses an inappropriate altcoin, he just wastes his time. Next, the mining equipment is not forever, its life will be reduced over time, sometimes it needs a lot of maintenance, unreasonable calculation, the loss is still possible, investing in ICO and IEO may be more risky, but profits and opportunities always come quickly, without waiting too long, everyone will have a different thought

I prefer to invest more. I don’t have that much powerful CPU, and also I don’t want to get in the trouble of GPU etc. I just invest in what I have and try my best to stay on par with the ups and won in the market and make decisions accordingly.

I haven't properly start in mining but since i always take search a real project for my in investment with have IEO in popular exchange. Actually ICO best time decrease lot of time ever and start of start IEO and more investor now keep buying token in IEO.

Your stand are accurate but just ICO/IEO investing which comes with its own need for research, mining also has its own requirements of which the first is cost of electricity, followed by the type of mining equipment as well as cost. So if a user have access to cheaper energy, mining will be profitable for such user. However, I tend to stick to IEO investing since the cost of energy in my home is high. Also, the type of IEO I participate with is those taking place in exchanges like Binance etc.

Why you decide to mining than investing in crypto projects ?
The market of cryptocurrency is still on the bottom, you won't get too much profit if you mining now
unless you have very low electricity fee when mining.

Quite surprising indeed. Small scale mining became a loss making exercise many years ago. Unless you have access to free or very cheap electricity and you are able to purchase the mining rigs at cheaper than market prices, PoW mining can be very difficult in terms of financials. Mining difficulty for all the coins are increasing at a steady rate, and large scale miners are gradually pushing out the small scale and medium scale miners with their giant mining farms. Altcoin mining used to be very attractive for the small scale miners, but with the decline in altcoin prices that sector is also not looking very rosy right now.

That doesn't mean that you should pour in your hard earned money in to the IEOs and the ICOs. As far as the ICOs are concerned, they are dead without any prospects of a future resurrection. There were simply too many scammers, and most importantly too many careless investors who invested in these shit projects without caring for their long term viability. IEOs are better placed in that regard, but I can see the number of scams increasing in the IEO sector as well.

All have a risk, just that we dare or not. I'm not going to do mining because it's too complicated and cost great. Investing in an ICO or IEO I will do, but by using small capital. Too risky if we use big capital to invest in the project.

Getting a fake project is a risk. But we also have to be careful and conduct analysis to define a project.

Yes mining offers guaranteed earnings but you also have to consider the cost of the rigs and power supply. Although ICO/IEO investors carry on more risk, if they commit to investing in only projects they have reseached properly and believe in their use cases, they should still see returns on their investments. Most investors are just in it for the short pump not the long haul. That's why people lose money.

I used to mine in fact was very lucrative for me until faced challenges in my new place which made me to quit, as anytime I mine and offset bills I end up with little or no profit. But nowadays, I have found solace in IEOs thus doing so within my power to get the most out of it. To some people, IEO might not worth it most especially when it is done on some exchanges while to some people IEO is profitable taking into account major exchanges like Binance etc.

You made your point and they're good but everyone can't be the same. One problems associated with mining has been the issue of high cost of acquiring mining equipments. I think the mining business has changed from what it used to be in the past when generic laptops and desktops were used to mine coins.

Minning is good, I have tried it my self in the past, but it used to get my pc overheated. And mining is better if done as a proper unit.
Yes IEO is much better than ICO. Reduced scams, guaranteed rewards and much more. I think it will take over entirely in the future.

I think that in 2020 the rules will change. mining will be completely different and there will also be a new format for fundraising. it will be better than IEO. you need to carefully monitor the market to be the first in this

Of course, mining is good in the past when the market is in the early stages of the crypto revolution, almost we can get very stable and good profits after months of mining but for now, mining is no longer a good solution when the coin that can be mined is almost exhausted, we will be very difficult to exploit more, besides, equipment issues are heated discussions with many disadvantages. Investing in IEO is a new trend with more advantages but it is also running out of profits like mining, a challenging time for us.

Everyone have their own decision and i am prefer to investing. Now the trend is IEO but i am only choose to invest in IEO project on big exchange because it's more safe and profitable in short term invesment.

choosing mining certainly has consideration. we need a large enough capital for that. although the funds generated are guaranteed, and it is also very difficult to become a scam, but the next challenge is how we can do mining with low electricity costs, and also maintenance costs that require extra attention. so far, some people I know doing mining have stopped and sold mining tools because of these factors. it makes me think that to move individually, I prioritize investing in quality ICO / IEO.

How your profits were assured when mining?

The price of altcoin is also unstable so the value of coin your mining might get lesser than the expensive in this case your in loss.

But its surely better than investing on new projects.

First of all, your technical equipment must be good. that doesn't work for me unfortunately. but it's great you have luck with your method!

If we are to think whether to investigate a project if it is a scam or not, I think we should also consider, understanding the project itself if it is worthy enough for our investments. It is somehow correct to say that we are assured that we can gain profit, but How much would be the profit? If you aren't gaining decent amount, then your investment didn't went well at all. Its better to study every market of a coin or cryptocurrency that we're attracted to. Think deeply about it then execute your action.

I think mining is not profitable, I have been mining and I think it takes more than 2 years for RoI, investing IEO / ICO is certainly more interesting and profitable.

Mining would take a long time. Investing in non ICO or IEO is better.

Yes it is true that you say mining can be said to be better because we don't have to worry about scams and don't have to analyze every project. But, not all projects are just a scam and for mining, not everyone can do mining and need some supporting tools and a little knowledge about mining. So here I think every thing that is done has advantages and disadvantages of each. So, everyone must have their own way which they think is something they can do and can give them an advantage.

Mining is really better than participating in ICOs. In mining, you can ensure that you can have a passive in come while in ICO, you do not have enough confirmation where will you can really make profit due to risks.

I much prefer to invest my time since I do not have as much money. I have more time than money so I exchange that time doing bounties for good projects and creating some income while supporting project.
It is the best way to invest for me. If I don't make money that means the investors didn't either so that is some comfort.

In any investment world, in my opinion there is no guarantee of profits from every investment made. Price moves very volatile and no one can guarantee that prices will always go up and benefit everyone. Everyone has a choice in investing and I think it is best to invest with money that we can afford to lose

One thing to consider is the price of electricity in mining. Mining bitcoins in my country is inefficient and might only generate fewer returns since electricity here is expensive. Another problem is being in tropical country and thus need additional electricity for cooling those mining rigs.

I agree on the part of encountering scams and since ICOs and other projects offer too much promises without credibility, its hard to trust your funds to these and might be even scams at the end.

Actually you have a point there but there are so many people in the world that doesn't have that kind of money to buy rigs and all of the accessories that are going to need to build a mining rig. I prefer IEO than ICO because the assurance that you'll get your money safe in IEO is better than ICO. Also IEO is one of the most popular investment in cryptocurrency because they are offering instant money if you select a good coin.
If I had money I will also build an mining rig but now that I don't have that kind of money I prefer to invest on IEO.

Investing with the right IEO/ICO project is far beneficials than mining, though from how we are seeing the market it's tough to pick the right one to invest your money, there's a big risk that you'll find yourself being scammed.

Investing nowadays needs to have a lot of time to invest, studying and working with your own understanding enhance your opportunities to select the right token to support.

Yeah absolutely right.
But have you ever thought about those who lack funds if you have to build mining?
Doing mining is promising and far from a scam, but not all understand to run mining although it can be learned, but it takes too much time & money. What is clear, most of us, crypto lovers, there is no doubt we want to generate profits without having to bother. On the other hand, crypto activists are usually people who are new to crypto space from their own friends. Where their friends only know trading & investing. Especially in my place. That is I can say.

yes indeed, there is no guarantee to any investment you made, even if you do mining or investing in an IEO/ICO you cant guarantee your profit. But if you are comfortable to your investment and if you are really making a profit from that, its good to continue. Facing the risk will be the key to success.

Not always. The amount of difficulty needs a low amount to get a reward.

Mining requires a large capital because if only with a small capital you are just wasting time, because the rewards you get are too small. I personally also don't like to invest because the current conditions are not very good for investors.

Plus the hardware that you need to use when it comes to mining, let say for example, the antminer are suitable for mining bitcoin, if you wanted to mine other altcoins then you should align your hardwares to it. But you correct when it comes to IEO's profits are assured, but is it decent? you might pay more for electricity than getting enough from calculating transactions through mining these coins.

Actually, i don't recommend on investing on any ICOs since there a lot of cryptocurrrncy that is much worth it on investing than new token and no value at all. I prefer mining but it will depend on the altcoin that you are mining and if the value will increase in the future.

And also, PoW will depend on the diffculty and how many miner are active. If you want to join an ICO then prepare yourself on selling it after it get listed then buyback in case the peice increases.

But is it really profitable ?
Have you count the time, power, electricity that you used for mining ?
IMO mining is not profitable anymore nowdays, because i saw many old miners sell their gpus for low price

Well ICO has its golden days and now, it's not a good opportunity for any investors anymore. And IEO has given a lot of profits for the brave and smart people that knows that it will deliver specially on the Binance platform. But you are right about mining but it's just a steady income unlike when you were lucky to invest in the first ICOs and IEOs then you could have 20x - 50x easily which is just 3-5 months of your 3-5 years of you mining.

No matter what method you want to invest

Either ICO, IEO, or just buying in the live market,
It will always be about how good the project is and its team on how they mean business with their team and investors,

ICO or IEO coins/tokens can go make High ROI or make a loss.

Choose mining over ICO / IEO investment ?? Only with a dime you can mine? how much dime is needed in dollar terms, I want to try mining with dime.
Mining is more guaranteed to avoid fraud, but where poll and calculations in all aspects of calculation will be very complicated, Looking for profit in mining is not easy, here I have difficulties regarding the pool formula and costs despite having mining tools.. If you invest in a place on behalf of minning then in my opinion it is no different from ICO / IEO in technically.

I think both are risky as you may lose your investment, mining is difficult too but if you choose good ICO/IEo you can get a good return in short time as soon as the coin/token go live in exchanges.

I actually like your idea about mining, it surely does have advantages over investing to projects but I think it has its own limit. I honestly did not experience mining simply because I don't have tools for that or simply, it is more expensive, I think. That is maybe the reason why I hooked myself into project investment more than other ways of earning cryptos. But the bottomline here is that, at times like this, almost every way of earning profit from crypto before seems so useless because the market value of most cryptos are continuously falling.

it's risky but mining is safer I guess. the results obtained depend on how the market price conditions are, if it is good it will be profitable but if it is bad I think I have to hold it in advance.
mining is better for the long term, whereas IEO or ICO is better for the short term. because coins or tokens from new projects sometimes won't last long because there are too many rivals and can't compete in the market.

It depends  on individual. Mining is in general not a profitable option now. Firstly you have to put a lots of money in rigs. Then the elextrizity comes. And in most of the cases mining is not profitable cause the price of the electricity is too much why. So if you are live a place where electricity icost very low then its fine.

I agree that mining is available only to a few people today. To make good money on mining, you need to have very expensive mining farms. For example, I am engaged in POS-mining. Of course, I understand that this is not the same thing. But that allows me to make good money today. For example, recently I found a new coin YUSRA GLOBAL (Site: https://yusra.global and Web-wallet: http://app.yusra.global). This coin allows you to receive up to 30% of profit monthly. How many video cards do I need to get such a profit ... that's why I love POS mining.

Those are the best options of how to multiply your portfolio. But you need to mine right coins and you need to find good IEOs. Right now I am investing only, because I believe the next wave of mining has not arrived yet.

In my case mining is not so profitable. Cause you have to pay a good amount for a mining rig then youbhve to pay for your electricity. And in my place electricity is not so cheap. But who have this facilities is cheap price then it's fine to go for mining.

Obviously mining is the best way to earn money. But i considered mining is one kind of investment. Because firstly you have to spend big amount of money to buy mining instrument also electricity cost will be included but it’s one time investment and this is totally risk free income but very lower income source it will be very difficult to afford. ICO/IEO is how much risky and too much profitable investment. So, i think both of the method are very different which one risky or another is safe.        

For long term, mining has the advantage if the miners are willing to hold till the coin that you are holding will have profitable value, unlike with IEO/ICO investment where scam developers are running around the market and waiting for the target crowd to flee with their investment. Both have the risk, it's all about how you will balance your decision and stand with your chosen venue of investment.

Mining used to be my passion. It was thing that brought me to BTT, back in 2014, I got myself an account at mining.bitcoin.cz and could not figure out some things. It was a fun time.
At the end of 2015, I had to sell everything and move to live in another place, my life has completely changed . And now, in 2019, I again want to assemble a farm. Mining is in my vains. hehe

That's why many people still prefer investing on ICOs and IEOs. It is not easy to build a crypto mining rig and you'll need to consider many things not just the capital. You still need to maintain those rigs weekly or monthly. And you also need to prepare some countermeasures when there is an emergency like a fire.

Mining have profit although waiting for long time, but depend which one coin have mining, if you mining with bad coin you lost your money because your shit coin do not have price, for IEO and ICO have bad side with price drop lower more than 50% drom ICO or IEO price after active trading in market.

my question about mining my friend
how if you mining a wrong coins ? you will lose your money and time too right ?
in my opinion trading is better than mining or investing in ICO or IEO my friend  ;)

The risks that you will take in mining is very low unlike in ICOs, ICOs are really risky investment and it is better if we will just invest in mining that participate in ICOs. But there are also disadvantage in Mining, in order to start a mining; we should have a high capital.

I chose mining than ICO, I have now mining set in my house and I keep earning from it. ICOs are really tough investment, I tried to invest some of my money in ICO and I only experience loss.

I do have a mining rig and I agree with what OP has said but in my country electricity bills are so high so I decided to stop mining and invest a little on some promising coins that I expect to grow its value overtime, also I join in legit bounty campaign by doing my due diligence so I can earn more while holding my coins.

As someone who had done mining in the past, I have to warn you that it is not very easy and the returns are not always assured. I assume that you are taking about altcoin PoW mining. There is too much competition out there and you need to be very careful while choosing a particular coin for mining. This is extremely important, as sometimes the exchange rates can go up or down by as much as 80%.

First you need to calculate the time required to get 100% ROI. On average, for a small scale miner, it takes at least 9 to 12 months to recover all the investment. After that period, most of the revenue will be profit.  But it is not always that simple. Sometimes there can be price fluctuations for the cryptocurrency that you are mining, and sometimes the hash rate can go up suddenly causing a sharp decline in the mining output.

But not all member here can afford to but GPU miner or any Mining rigs. And I don't think its practical to prioritize that just for a people like me here. Its good for you if you get profit, but for the majority especially at this point of time I don't think so. I would rather go for investing in IEO as long as the exchange is listing at the top of the market that be fine I guess, just like kucoin, Idax, Binance and others.

For me it is not a good idea to do mining cryptocurrencies because it just cost too much for me to build a good passive source of income and it is better for me to just focus in investing in ICO/IEO because they pay a bigger amount of return and it is much better and easier to do compare to buying parts of your mining rig, building, running and maintaining it.

I used to mining using my computer, but this days mining for me is useless, so i trade coins.

Yes mining is not worth anymore since the price drop from 20k , the block is harder and we hard to get much bitcoin. That's why many old bitcoin miners selling their rig and the price of VGA is not high as bitcoin mining trend

Well, I prefer investing. Mining is a good option only if you have cheap electricity and easy availability of hardware. In my country it is not profitable due to high cost of electricity. Mining also is much more complicated. So, I will definitely stay with ICO/IEO.

In current market conditions, there is an opportunity to buy and accumulate good coins at low prices. Maybe many investors are afraid that prices will fall deeper, but if we invest for the long term, I think the market will recover for the long term

Really mining is a good option but i need more time for study about mining so now i prefer IEO investment in exchange binance. I enjoy it IEO some like bouns with makes profits. Even i am ready now for again participate one project IEO like XCARD if they will be added a popular exchange.

Mining is absolutely a good way to earn crypto if you are in a cool places and the electricity is not expensive. I also like your idea of investing in IEO especially in major exchanges like binance because the profit is guaranteed when your ticket has been chosen.

Binance is of course a mega successful brand in the crypto market. But that was not always the case, and I think that the hype around Binance will not last long.
We need to look for alternative sources of passive income in the crypto market. I'm looking among coins with a POS algorithm. Now I have found a few mrnets and am investing in them. I like the YUSRA coin (website: https://yusra.global and web wallet: http://app.yusra.global). It seems to me that this coin has a greater future. I like the direction the project is developing.

You never know if the money you invest in a project gives you a profit of you can lose everything. From this viewpoint, mining is better, as each time you know: you make a bit (soon after you cover expenses on equipment, surely). However, trading attracts me more as here, if you work hard, the profit can be tens (at least) times higher than with mining, although it is also risky stuff.

Sounds very good to you, but how can I get a decent mining tool while the money needed is very much.  Actually ICO or IEO investment is not to blame, it's just that the people behind the project that issued the ICO and IEO were not good enough. Now IEO has a great opportunity to get ROI, but there are only a few.
Investors, in my opinion, will only take advantage of the opportunities available to make a profit, and that is why most of them continue to use IEO even though it is difficult to get maximum results.

In my opinion, mining should be done only if you have access to cheap electricity, otherwise it will be much more profitable to purchase bitcoin at the right time.
Less risk, less cost, more profit. Investing in IEO is also, at the moment, a rather controversial investment.
I think it would be more profitable to invest in the purchase of exchange tokens that these IEOs carry out.

Do not risk your cryptocurrencies in a bear market. The possible return is huge so why risk more? Do not invest into cloud mining companies, do not invest into ICOs, it has been proven several times that everything is fraud.
If you want despite investing, then choose a real business with a real product.  ;)

OP, the title is misleading. It should be Why I prefer mining than investing in ICO/IEO. Anyway, you're actually right but you also needs to consider the risk in mining. What if there could be some problems in your rigs, worst it got broken. And also you need to consider the electricity your setup is consuming.

There is also the upkeep. People think you just leave your miner and it goes and goes and goes forever. Power can fail, wired get unplugged. Things get dirty and dusty and need to be cleaned so the miner does not overheat.
Paying for all the electricity it uses sucks especially since the miner costs so much just alone. The risk is that the miner stops working. What will you do then. One miner costs so much and most people have only a handful of miners. Losing one miner is 20%-50% of the profits gone right there, if you can get it repaired every second you wait it will cost you. The difficulty increases too so I think the return is a year or more (a little longer then you predicted) By the time you break even the difficulty is so high you don't get much. You cannot just keep mining forever eventually it costs too much to run and must be shut off.

Don't try minning. if you don't understand about minning devices or computer assembly. This is my personal experience in 2017 which lost nearly $17,000 . Because of my ambition to have a minning tool and this of course made me get a lot of big losses. the reason at that time In early 2018 Bitcoin experienced a substantial decline and VGA devices also experienced a decrease that was so large

I had a lot of miners in 2016-2018, and even if only Asic devices suffered in the fall of the market, video cards were always in price. I sold farms from video cards in 2018 and even if not to consider that they extracted, they left in a small minus.

Yes you're right, there are many factors that affected crypto mining profits right now.
Many old miners are leaving mining because i think it's not as profitable as it used to be and it takes long time to reach ROI

It is true that you say that if we do mining we don't need to worry about getting a scam. But I think not everyone can do it because there are several factors that must be owned and some people will also prefer to invest. So I think it all depends on the factors and also the desire of everyone to do mining or investing.

I think mining is so expensive, yes you can sure that in mining is less scams and less that you can't gain more profit. but, mining has disadvantage. we already know what is it. but investing on IEO is the best option to do right now. less scam too and you can pick any projects that will become successful in good exchanges. As assured that you dont want to being scam and lost the amount of founds, know the project first.

I am very interested as you stated above, that investing in IEO or ICO is profitable for us, especially when IEO or ICO is just starting to be relatively cheap. once the coin is listed on the market, it is likely that the price will soar higher than the ICO / IEO price.

I have seen some people that says that because of the volatility of cryptocurrency, they will rather just trade coins in a short-term, including the famous bitcoin, and I am not again that, but short term trading comes with its prices too, most people that you have seen have fallen of panic sell are people that has built their mind to have the investment for a short term period.

As a long term investment, you will tie a particular number of year to your investment which will make you not to be worried even when you are seeing all these fluctuations in the market. I think that it still all depend on our choice though, I just think that long term investment gives more peace than a long-term investment and it is easy to make decision than short term.

I will also prefer to build a mining setup than to invest in ico if I have high capital. There are investors that became tich because of mining, there is a opportunity in mining because we can have passive income from it.

That would happened if you are not paying any electrical bills or you have the low cost for electricity in your country. Mining is not friendly to those who resides where electric bills is high, as mining rewards is not that profitable anymore. Though if you are in the long term investment plan and you can keep paying for the cost of your mining while waiting for the value of your coins to pumped high then go and build your rigs.

That is because in investing, you are contributing in a project that is already successful but the decision of making you money big is you but in ICO, you are depending on the project itself if it is going to be successful and if it is successful then it is good for you but if not, you just wasted your time. It is all about taking risks. We are all taking risks here and different styles we are using to earn money. Some are preferring on investing but some wants to mine coins and other people wants only to join ICOs and support a particular project and earn money. It is all about being expert on what you are doing because if you are good in trading why you need to join ICO if you are expert on that. Maybe you can do both but you should manage time and everything.

It's good that you prefer mining to investing in ICO/IEO... some other people like me just prefer investing in ICO/IEO.

Mining the top cryptocurrencies is of course very reliable, but unfortunately with the constant dumps that occur in the cryptocurrency market, you have to wait years to sell mined tokens for a good price, but investing in top companies that conduct IEO`s on top exchanges gives a quick and stable profit.

Aside from that, this is because we do have different mindset, priorities, like and dislikes, for some it is easy for them to set up mining rigs as this is their line of work, for some, they love investing as they love analyzing numbers, market and they do have time to do this and this fit their preference. So, for me there is nothing wrong with it, for as long as we are doing something that our future will thank for whether mining or investing, both has potential to make money.

I also think this is more about preferences than anything else, mining may seem attractive to some if they have low electricity costs, this is not the case where I live and I do not want to worry about the depreciation of my equipment and worry about when to replace it.

And while I do not invest in icos I am a small investor and I prefer many times to do that than to mine coins, but I also understand those that like mining may not like to worry about every single movement of the market and what it could mean like I do.

I like investing and mining but since bear market started mining have not been profitable as before so i just abandoned my mining rigs and focus on investing in new IEO projects from top exchanges

You can prefer mining than investing to those ieos or icos but you can also say that profits are not assured. What if the coins that you have mined has no value and do you think that the time you have used mining that coin is worth it? It seems not, right?
I'm saying that you can also have a mistake with mining if you have mined the wrong coin.

Mining is not that easy for everyone, it has many obstacles! If your country has a higher fee for electricity, then your profit is not ensured even you can lose your investment instead of making profits! But who has a low electricity fee, and who knows well about mining, they can easily make very good money through crypto mining and thousands of people are doing that! Investing in ICO is a big mistake, but investing in Binance, Kucoin IEO can be better than continuous mining!

I really don't think that comparing them will do any good. Both have their own share of difficulty and downsides. You said you prefer mining because you don't have to wait to get profit? I thought everyone here are masters of waiting, all for the right timing. Even the miners I know wait up before selling their mined crypto because the capital they have invested in the materials and internet is not a small money.

But miners do wait for the time when the prices are high enough to meet their expenses from running that expensive ring and internet bills. You already said that you hold coins, so technically you wait for greater profit. We all have our strengths in the field of crypto industry we are part of. So, I am begging you not to make other jobs here less superior than yours. Comparisons, knowing their pros and cons are great takeaways, but there are many ways to convey them. Nevertheless, I hope you good luck in mining.

Agree, i'm still mining too. I mine GRIN. I joined in 5 ICOs in this year and three of them have scammed me and one of them still don't get listed in any matket. Maybe the money that i have invested in scam icos is enough to make another mining rig. I will stop investing in ICO and keep mining to get some profit.

I understand why you say that. Mining is really much more profitable than investing in ICO. But in terms of start-up capital, it is much more expensive.

Indeed mining attracts more people. Coins that are minted usually have a quite favorable price. In contrast to ICO which is more speculative, in my opinion the ICO market is now different from a few years ago where many good projects were produced

Ive stop mining and investing as well, i have my bags full of altcoins that i plan to hold for years, new projects are not so good anymore and even ICO projects of 2017 are now mostly useless, i still hunt for good altcoin but only in bounties, if the project is good enough i might add them to my collections

Mining if the electricity costs are high the same as loss, so stop it. But if your electricity costs are cheaper, please continue your mining.
Investing in an IEO/ICO project is the same as a bet, because it's not necessarily ROI, it can end up being a scam.
It is most appropriate in my opinion investing/trading in coins that have been running for a long time such as BTC, XRP, eth, ltc, xlm. all of this can be trusted and will give good profit, all you need is patience.

Mining is completely a decent method to acquire crypto on the off chance that you are in a cool spots and the power isn't costly. I additionally like your concept of putting resources into IEO particularly in significant trades like binance in light of the fact that the benefit is ensured when your ticket has been approved .

This is what stops many from trying to mine coins, to become a trader you do not really need a big capital, there were many stories in the past of traders that started with less than a thousand dollars and now are rich.

But with mining you will need a lot of money and you still need to select the right coin to mine, you could take your chances with new coins and expect that at some point in the future those coins become valuable but that is a very risky bet not much different than investing in icos.

Some ICO and IEO,s hurts by selling below price while some would even dump on investors unless a good project after series of investigations or a project on a good Exchange. but mining gives profit as you have nothing to loose though tasking and time consuming but ones you mine a good tokens you are sure and certain on selling and making money. There's certaintity in mining than ICO or IEO.

I do not know how to mine bitcoins and ethereum that is why I can't say anything about it. I also do not invest in altcoins by directly buying and trading it from an exchange but I do know how to join bounty campaigns in order to earn and receive altcoins as payment. Yes, I do agree that some ICOs (most of them to be honest) turns out to be a scam, and believe me, I experienced it so many times, but it doesn't stop me from investing my time and knowledge doing this kind of work. I do not have the capital to buy altcoins to start with. I only have spare time to join bounty campaigns like what I've said before, although it is too risky to be involved in scam ICOs, if you are lucky enough to join legit campaigns, the profit is good too.

Investing in established coins is by far the best choice, but as the price of most coins begin to go up most investors become reluctant to invest in those projects and prefer to wait until the price goes down.

But another reason why many prefer to invest in icos or ieos or prefer to mine some coins is because the capital they have is simply too small to buy a significant amount of the coins that lead the market and they prefer to take the risk with unpopular coins.

I think everyone has different choices. we cannot force others to like what we like. mining and investing both have advantages and disadvantages. all depends on ourselves more comfortable doing which. I prefer investing ICO / IEO rather than mining. because I don't have enough money to buy a mining tool and also I think the operational costs to be incurred are quite large.

This is right, we have different preferences when it comes to earn profit. As long a person can manage to earn and have a funds to purchase mining tools and the cost for electricity in our country is expensive. I don't invest in Ico’s or Ieo these days, I’ll just invest in trading on top crypto in the market which is not mentioned above.

ability is indeed the basis for doing great things, if he likes to do mining because he can to overcome it compared to if he does new things then have to learn many new things again.

Both mining and investing (in ICO) have their benefits.

Mining is an important process for creating new coins, which is crucial for the processing of transactions on a certain blockchain. In short, mining has a long and good life and those who mine also have a good future, as the profits keep coming. You can mine titan coins, which will reward you with new titan coins for each block you mine. Titan coin is going to be quite popular and in-demand in the coming future, so the chances of your income growing are very high.

You can also invest in ICOs/ token sales, but only in ones that have a high potential for the future.

There is no excuse here when they invest in stupid projects and expect a return, even if they have a small capital they can invest in some potential projects with good team or even dogecoin is a far better coin than the rest of the experimental ICO projects in the market and you can even invest in bitcoin even if you are having hundred dollars, so the idea of investing in unpopular coins cannot be justified.

mining is indeed a thing that makes it easy for us to get some easy profits. different from investing we have to bet with great risk and if we do mining we can analyze earlier about profits and also what percentage will go into our profits within the specified time period

Yes the mines remain the safest way to win in the cryptos but in the last months the profitability to much lower

Actually I am regretting that I didn't have the chance to check out mining, because as per many of people they said the mining is too expensive and I don't have the fund to set up way back 3 years ago when the price is too low and now the things needed in mining are too expensive. But, still I am earning from campaigns and from short term trading so life must go on.

mining is not a good deal for all the countries, because it makes more power consumption so few countries only cheap power consumption rate. May be still some GPU mining make enough profit, But Investing ICO or IEO is a right choice for current traffic. Further economic is concentrate ICO/IEO so I always accepting the most people suggestions.

Well, I also think the same as you. But to do mining requires more costs and must be prepared to bear the costs of electricity and routine maintenance for its hardware. I had wanted to assemble a RIG with a 8x GTX 1080 TI and start mining some new coins that have potential, but having thought that I might not be able to hold them and keep waiting because I need a turnover of funds. It really does not only involve my material side but also psychological.

First off, investing in IEO/ICO project is very risky since you wouldn't know the future of the project that you've invested in plus, there is a high chance the project is scam and all the time if that hits in exchange, some holders will dump their coin already it's best if you wouldn't resist to invest in IEO/ICO projects is research very carefully

Well, since you have a big investment then you have the right choice to invest in mining equipment. Because there is definitely no risk and you will not be afraid of getting scammed. I, I invest in trading and in the event that I am fortunate to earn big I will also buy my own mining equipment so that I can focus and earn in a safe way.

If you don't have enough money to buy mining rigs/tools, then how are you able to invest on ICO or IEO? Probably small investment, but those won't bring you any real good profit. Again, mining can sometimes be profitable and the operational costs can be countered (though depends on the coin you are mining and the value of those coins). On other hand, there are very high chances you are investing on a shit coin and will lose everything.

but whether for now mining can still provide good results? does income match expenditure? I have heard a number of issues that mining is currently unsatisfactory, but if it really still produces I want to try it

In the short run, you may be able to win and plus, do not waste time studying projects, but simply get the top altcoin. But if you look to the future, then some small investment in a successful project can block all investments that turned out to be unprofitable. But if you think about stability, then you are undoubtedly right!

Is it not very bad now for mining? My friend said that always mining he got a small profit and wasted their electricity on the thing that fortunately a bit different from the old days.
If I prefer to invest, both have a risk that can give a lot of profit if our management is good.

We can't remove the fact that most of the ico's are scam and only those IEO's from reputable exchange have a good chance to bring profits, while in the mining side, due to difficulty it's also give lesser benefits. It's up to the investors how to handle pressures and how to manage the risk of putting their money inside this investment venues but as long as you fully understand what you are doing you still have a good chance to earned from any options that you'll going to take.

This is of course good, ICO does not bring any profit. This direction has long outlived its usefulness. I also invest only in proven coins that already have trading volumes and a certain reputation.

Everyone has the right to have their own opinions, and also each person has his own choice to determine the best for him. Likewise
with me who prefers investing in ICO / IEO rather than mining. Because I don't have knowledge about mining, such as determining
a good GPU and how to take care of the tools mining. Moreover mining must be supported with low electricity costs, while the cost
of electricity in my country is expensive. The reason for me why investing in ICO / IEO is more profitable. Even as we know the risk
of investing in ICO / IEO is very large, as many projects are scam. But it's a risk that must be borne if you choose investment
on ICO / IEO.

Although I am not a big fan of the ICOs and IEOs, I don't necessarily agree with your post. Mining is not a 100% safe option and there is always a risk of incurring crippling losses. The main risk factor is that mining requires a huge amount of initial investment. And this capital will be gone, if the coin crashes at the market. And under current circumstances, nothing with a certain amount of surety can be said about the altcoins. Many of them are sliding down with no respite in sight.

Yes you can say that Mining has some leverage income. But it will take time to break even for the capital that incurred along the way. How about if suddenly the market crash badly? How can you gain some profits while youre expenses is way more a lot than youre gaining? Also what if you have some problem in the equipment youll need to repair and fixed it, another expenses. While IEO is a good and easy money for participation. It's proven mate.

We are all entitled to do the things we feel meet our preference. But you should also understand that crypto mining is also another form of investment. Just like IEO and ICO, you need to invest some amount of funds to get the hardwares needed for the mining.  Both IEO/ICO investing and mining are forms of investment but with mining, the person's investment outcome can be easily calculated and he/she can easily tell if his/her profit margin is good or not.

Actually it's all just a matter of time and funds. If he wants to wait and have enough funds to handle it all, then I think there is no problem with that. Mining is more suitable for those who want to invest long-term and have enough money for repairs, electricity and other unexpected costs as long as he holds the coin and waits for maximum profit. While IEO is suitable for those who want to get quick profits. Both have pluses and minuses, but mining seems to be more free and independent.

When compared with the many scam projects now, it is better to do mining than by investing in a new project that is not certain and we must set aside time to observe about the project, how the team behind it and whether the project can run as planned. But for mining, not everyone can do it, and before mining, these people also need to know and learn what mining is.

It is better for the type of people who don't have a lot of money to try to master the art of investing in IEOs because it can bring a lot of profit for their portfolio which they can use in further investing like mining and other form of passive income. They should start a basic level where they can increase their income through their effort and their last resort will be building a passive source of income to sustain their lifestyle for the rest of their lives.

Mining can be very profitable if you have the right expertise and are mining a high ROI asset, but not everyone has the capability to do this so instead they opt to invest in whatever startups they think will provide returns and the best ones for that are likely to be the very top ranked assets

Mining id good but need investment and experiences and day by day mining is becoming difficult due to electricity charges and other machine faults so if you also start trade in Ethereum and Bitcoin this will boost up your income.

I really don't mine, but from what people say it is profitable but you really need to know and understand how it works. Also investing in initial exchange offering is also profitable  but you need to do some research to know a project worth investing in.
So I think one should do what works for him or her.

it's true, everything will be instant entry into the wallet then we can immediately sell it. it is very different from investing in coins or ico, because we definitely have to wait for the value of the coin to rise from our initial purchase price to get a profit. but have you ever calculated the calculation starting from the price of the device you use for minning, and the cost of electricity bills during your minning, and also the maintenance of your device, can you already profit from the results of the minning you get?

These 2 industries you've mentioned are a bit different, however, as far as I understand, you are trying to get into the industries, where you are experienced and where you basically understand the growth. And you told that you are interested in ICOs, how are you choosing the solutions on the market?

Morning mate. I cannot say for everyone, but can elaborate a bit more on my own approach and strategy here. I always start with just an idea, evaluating how it may be spread wider, how applicable it is and else. Then a very important component is the value I can get. Or some benefits. Then paying attention to the team, the roadmap and innovations

Sounds rational, you seem to be on the market for pretty a long time. And as for today, are there many platforms/solutions that pass your "test"? Would be definitely interested to hear some recommendations

I can basically share my latest discovery - Housinet. Why latest? Cause requirements always grow and this is the solution that I've found out lately. Basically, the guys are redefining property management industry, letting everyone get much more from managing someone's real estate or, of course, own. What is important - very multifunctional tokens, ultimacy, metrics collection, blockchain and much much more. What I recommend you to do - have a look at their website. Pretty sure that you will be very impressed

Interestingly, you are not the first person recommending Housinet. Had no time to check out the solution before, but will do shortly and get back with own thoughts afterwards. Thank you very much for your recommendation

I think the same way I'm just describing the way many investors with a very low capital take their decisions, they are looking to improve their lives significantly with a very low capital and while this was possible with bitcoin very early that opportunity is no longer available.

You can still make a lot of money with bitcoin but now you need to invest a significant amount of money as well and if you are not ready for that then you should forget about obtaining profits that could be life-changing.

Mining would actually have been a better deal for one to make consistent inflow of income, but the issue is that mining posses its own risk and demerits which could be complicated and requires technical knowledge. Having to deal with the issues of computing power, energy and obsolescence of ones equipment is not an easy task and that explains why there are very few people who are into mining as against those into investment in cryptocurrency.

The problem with mining is that it takes a lot of money to buy coin mining equipment. In addition, electricity tariffs also affect the profitability of coin sales, if the coin price rises high, the miner may not experience problems but if the price drops, this might hurt the miner

Indeed, the fate of the miners rely with how the market moves. Many miners stops dealing with this business especially those small time miners due to the market downfall, it's tough now to find the right coin that will still provide good outcome considering all those expenses that needs to calculate and analyze if you still getting profits or you are not doing anything. Understanding the probabilities gives you hints to continue or quit away from this business.

That's your own choice, maybe you can cover all the costs that  is involved in mining. I don't prefer going in ecosystem and co but I do invest in more profitable project that can generate daily income for me

I can understand your decision, but I do not get on thing. The majority of IEOs/ICOs is falling in price, the same as it happening in bounty projects, so why are you investing when you can earn even more with bounties.

Each activity has its own set of problems, for people like us mining may seem to be a very complex operation of which we do not have an idea of how to manage it, but trading and investing are not easy at all, if anything it could be argued that trading and investing are even harder.

Since there are many studies that show that the majority of traders and investors lose money instead of earning it despite all the efforts and time they put into trying to make money out of that activity.

trade and investment are more risky, because we are faced with high market fluctuations. many obstacles in investing in ICO / IEO, we must really examine the project so that later not on a fraudulent project that can drain our capital. while in trade, we must be able to analyze well the movements that will occur, so as not to lose money

But mining also requires quite a lot of costs so that it can run well and generate a lot of profit. And maybe some people choose to invest in IEOs/ICOs because they can get a quick profit when the tokensale or crowdsale is complete

Yes, your answer gives good advice. I joined the bounty program as part of my job to get new coins, and I prioritized investing Ethereum and Bitcoin as assets for the future. Although this process is not as easy as following a bounty that is currently a lot of scams, I am still active to increase knowledge about crypto and with a low market price, of course, this is our challenge to wait for an increase in crypto prices next year.

Mining without a doubt requires a huge capital and technical knowledge just to start the operation but it is a lot more predictable compared to being a trader or on investor, especially if the coins in which you are thinking in investing are icos or ieos that as we know have a very high chance of failing during their first year of existence.

And even if there is a chance of getting quick profits I do not really think that a lot of investors really believe that anymore since they are very aware of the bad reputation of most icos and ieos.