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When it comes to money people like trying out things the way they see fit, try first learn later is the rules of newbies and thats why they always get scammed easily, HYIP, Pyramid Scheme, as dangerous and alarming these two are people still join them till date, both crypto and internet is not the evil here, people are to be blame for what happened to them

ignorance and lazy to seek knowledge is indeed a bad thing, because they do without having knowledge and eventually they get a loss. sometimes we can not blame someone who does it better they must be guided so that no more beginners are caught in fraud

We must avoid to being greedy if there are some peoples or projects offering huge amount of profits.
With this way, we should more careful every time we want to use our money to investing.
Research and learn about the project will take time, unlike HYIP and pyramid scheme which promise quick profit.

Many new investors have sprung up but are not matched with enough knowledge about Blockchain, Cryptocurrency and things that are prohibited and which need to be avoided.

They only prioritize profits and join projects that are recommended by a group of people or their own communities. More research and learning is needed.

If they are deceived by scammers, they will make a statement that many projects are fake, but do not introspect. Learn more about Cryptocurrency and blockchain knowledge so you don't fall into the same hole.

People are actually responsible for why they repeatedly fall prey to hyips and pyramids! This is because of their laziness or their willingness to earn more even though they know that investing in it is risky. So they are easily fooled, So we should avoid this practice because it sounds like gambling too,

So that we are not able to persuade other newcomers who are unaware of this invesment.

They are indeed but depending on the circumstances specially if they are new comers 'cause that is given that they lack of knowledge about frauds and click bait site over the internet. We cannot as well eradicate those unlawful frauds what must be done is to spread infos about such thing but the problem is sometimes people are too dumb and disregards those helpful infos. I believe that knowledge itself would be the key for frauds and click bait sites to not be spread anymore.

You have a point in that .In fact, it is really the fault of the people  thats why they got scam They do not study an investment first before entering or investing thier money.
Crypto is just a tool use to get fund but the people who own a money they cancontrol thier self if they want to invest or not.

We have our mind for us to know the legit one and what is scam, we do have a lot of ways to check and conduct investigation, so for us to be able to know what is real and not, we should do our best for it, as we are the one handling our own path, so if you got scam and victim of it, you are the one that should be blame and not scammers.

Many people still blame with scammer always ask him to invest with incorrect website link, they do not know with fake proof payment giving by scammer and ask them for investing, looking with the reality where giving several percent profit each month without have working anymore I think is the way how become scam project and fake investment, you have tell your family and your friend with scam investment project.

i would say its both, tho its true that in crypto due diligence is super important
The way our society has been with the banks making all the financial decisions for people, has left them helpless to make their own it seems
its well known HYIP #'s like 1% daily are laughably unsustainable, but sadly the newer users don't know that :(

I think falling in the fraud hole is also a lesson for the newbie to be more careful going forward. I also think they have done research beforehand but they are still affected by scams. Because scammers always improvise for the sake of their agenda.
Everyone suggests doing a series of research before plunging in, but in fact, many newbies don't know how to do the research, what are the conditions that must be met if it is a legit project.

No matter what platform we have, fiats, or crypto there will be people that will do illegal acts just to get ahead with others. In my point of view, even if we blame them for a reason that we've been scammed or tricked, nothing will happen as crypto is allowing as to be free and to transact free. In order to avoid this, one should be knowledgeable in managing their funds no matter if it is crypto or not. There will nothing to be blame if in the first place we know how to keep away from these scenarios.

there is no one to blame because it's their personal problem, even if you have no knowledge of the crypto or internet industry and you experience errors or losses then you are responsible yourself. so it is only about the individual and it is important that one must always be vigilant before making a decision and must also be prepared to take responsibility for all actions that have been taken.

Indeed,what ever people get on the internet is entirely what they deserve, because they want every thing quickly, they want the result fast, they want to get Rich quick so instead of them to take out time to study what the investment is all about, they feel they Will be wasting a lot of time, and so they invest without research, and at the end they weep. In every space, research is in indeed important.

Sometimes it happened because of desperation, the first time I bought Bitcoin was due to HYIP. I was desperate in making money fast even though my heart told me it does not sound logical. Knowledge is important but there is something else that is as important as Knowledge which is rationality. No matter how knowledgeable you are if you do not know how to use your rationality, you will become the victim too. Learn everything you can learn and keep your mind open,

Not necessarily to blame, they're more like a victim here because of the over promises and somehow the greediness to earn a quick money and just ignore the possibility of fraudulent even they knew it is there in the first place.

Well as they say, no one will be scam if there's none who will fall. And sadly crypto nor the internet is being abuse.

We all started as a newbie when we all starting out investing it's just those who were scammed find out too late that not all what they see and what they read on the internet are all true, I have become a victim several times when I was just starting out, especially in Ponzi scheme, the biggest attraction is always the payment proof, not knowing that those showing payments are conniving or part of the investment program,
we all have a valuable lesson to learn and getting scammed is one of them.

but in crypto people have to look after themselves, if they hope the rules will be difficult to implement. therefore knowledge becomes important in crypto and for internet abuse and in the field of crypto it must be written off so that no more investors are disappointed.

Why even blame the internet when the one who was stupid is the person itself? Funny, right?
People tend to look something to blamed for, and as for making money through internet, they blamed it all on something when one thing didn't go the way they wanted to.

But really, I cannot really blame that kind of people tho, it's our nature to have this hunger feeling when it comes to money.
And when they heard we could make a fortune through internet, especially when they heard the word bitcoin, they became blind and just following others without knowing anything. That's when they went wrong. A piece of advice is be smarter and wiser than you used to be.

Greedy people walks among us till date and it favours few of them the truth is there is no way to get rid of greed but too much of everything is what makes it bad, if you know where and when to use your greed it might favour you

Lets stop treating 'greed' like a parasite or plague, a well known rich man once said...be greedy when others are fearful and be fearful when others are greedy, i think greed will always lives in us forever but to take over greed or use it as a good weapon we have to learn first, those greedy people who loses throw away 'learning' first

People will try out for something new that smells the money because they want to make money in many ways. They will not stop trying as long as they can see the word "make money" in any program. Maybe they are lack information so they don't read if they can make money but with terms and conditions that they should know. They should know that everything will have the risk, so if what they did is not giving big money, they should accept. I don't want to blame those people because that will their risk to face that.

Greed is always in everyone's personality. When it comes to money, every person can change in an instant. They tend to risk their investment in an unrealistic promise like HYIPs/investment schemes/etc..

Greed can use in a good way, it can be a weapon to outsmart other people. But it can also use against you if you do not have enough learnings, especially on investments.

Agree, we better study first before we make an investment. Many people feel cheated because they are lured by a large profit, even though the risk behind the investment. I think this often happens because of greed and also the desire to get profits quickly

it is a harsh thing to say but it is true. and you also forgot about how the pump and dumps have been scamming people and taking their money. in fact it is the biggest reason for the newbies losing money in this market.

but i also say the community is also at fault here. people with experience who know these things are scams are sometimes staying silent just because that shitcoin is getting pumped and as a result gives their bitcoins more profit.

It disgust me when i see my fellow men finding easy way out, to me its not reality because nothing comes easily, you got to try real real hard and if you fail you must try harder, do not be lazy only lazy people find east ways, they become scammers victims while looking for easy way out

Basically everyone has more desire when they start working, I do not like to blame others when they start greedy and make others lose, because every action we make there must be risks that we must bear.

Mostly things like this always happened to those who are rushing to earned, without doing a proper research they've find their-selves a victim of scam
projects, there's no quick ways unless fate and luck hits you big time. But in reality, you have to work to find success in any investment/business that you will going to take.

Stop believing that luck will be there for but instead try to work out and do your proper study and research to acquire knowledge that you need
to  succeed to whatever venue of investment that you'll going to enter.

No one is perfect that is why people are tend to make mistakes but if you did not take it as a lesson and keep doing the same mistakes over and over again then there is a problem with yourself. internet scam is nothing new on our society but people keep falling from it because of their greediness and lazyness which is need to change if they want to succeed in this industry.

When it comes to internet scam we should not be fooled and be ignorant in things that we think are not helpful or useful in our lives, that is why we should not wait for us to make some foolish mistakes because we should learn to other people's mistakes for nothing to happen to us. We should be aware that scam is all over in the internet even in crypto, so make the right choice.

The need for education is important when someone is new to the world of crypto or business, they must know everything about the risks and benefits of investment or business. greed and also big profits make some people no longer listen to what we give advice. because they already know like ponzi and hyip. Instant money makes them dare to take risks and offer big profits

the deception of the HYIP and the Ponzi scheme is very lucrative especially new users who have just jumped into the crypto cunia, it is very easy to be exposed to fraud, therefore we must educate the community through social media such as Twitter, Facebook, Instagram in order to avoid the Ponzi and HYIP schemes

The idea of making money in a short period of time is what forces people to try out anything that attracts them with huge benefits and with bitcoin everyone knows how the initial investors made a fortune and everyone is trying to replicate with all the shit coins and the scams in the market thinking they can make that money with those shitty schemes and they are getting scammed their ass off and still they are not learning is their mistake as there are many warning regarding those and yet if they cannot understand those traps it is their choice.

There is no need to put blame on anyone. Rather, they should be thought on what to do or how to correct their mistakes, so that they do not repeat the same thing. They got convinced in their ignorance. Had it been they knew the right thing to do, they would have done it.

You missed the point of decentralization. people get scammed because we are trained to rely on authority. when decentralization becomes a norm and children grow up in a decentralized society, it will be very difficult to scam them. The problem with that is there will always be scammers so you can’t just punish one. We need to focus on educating people on how to spot scams. Investing is a serious job that needs to be taken by responsibility and cautious persons only, not illiterate preteens who never bothered reading a whitepaper, and are very greedy.

Some people are greedy and wanting a big and quick profits, if they think rationally no investment that will give an exactly ROI in really short time.
But because of HYIP, many people spread out the project and everyone joined and when many people joined the project ended scam.
People are blaming each other and blaming the project also, no one held responsible after all.
So, be wise in investing especially in cryptocurrency because no one will held responsibility when our investment is gone

We must not blame the people because they don't know on what are happening inside the internet world. We can blame them if thet have already enough knowledge on what is happening in the internet and they can easily scam by other people, that would make us to blame them but if they don't have enough knowledge then we can't blame them. Crypto is not evil, in fact crypto helps us to earn money and find some way on how we can earn more just for example bounties, trading and investments so I probably say that crypto is not evil.

Yes, instead of blaming them it's better to let them understand their current situation. It's not their fault for not having enough knowledge, but it is their responsibility to make research to avoid taking any idiotic actions. We should just guide them to avoid making the same mistake.

The scammers are to be blamed but victims are also to be partly blamed. Remember that being ignorant to the law cannot exempt you. People are scammed by HYIP because they are after for the money. Everyone becomes greedy when it comes to money. Pretty sure there were doubts on their minds but greed gobbled them up. If they are not so sure, they could consult educated people or the authorities itself and ask for guidance.

The problem is that there are people who easily fall for this kind of trap, gullible enough not to think logically and then bitch around when they became a victim of those HYIP and Ponzi's. I mean its already 2019, crypto enthusiast should have learn from their mistakes. But then again, when greed or when they think that there's a way to create easy money by joining HYIP and Ponzi, but they are totally wrong and they would only understand it when they became a victim already.

We ought to have learnt our lessons from the Ponzi schemes that are disguised like real investments. Several of them have trooped into the internet and a lot of people fell for them. They are still very much around, but only the gullible fall for them. There are even cryptocurrency projects that promise huge ROI which are not feasible, they too are pyramid schemes.

The analogy is like you enter a forest without any preparation, don't know the terrain, even the map or compass doesn't have any. rely on luck? what's the percentage?
It is better to prepare all the needs, understand the terrain, and the things needed to survive before deciding to enter the "forest". Is not it?

I care less about careless people, entering the world of cryptocurrency just because of hysteria, without any qualified knowledge about the cryptocurrency ecosystem. Then when trapped losses, scams, etc. can only be blamed. See? each decision is the responsibility of each, so study well in order to exist .

I also don't see any positive outcomes if people keep blaming themselves for their failures instead of moving-on and learn from their past mistakes. People just need to be more careful whenever they transact on the internet especially on crypto-space because its been a tool for people who have bad intention to find their new victims.

"Difficult roads often lead to beautiful destinations"

- Zig Ziglar (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/8401194-difficult-roads-often-lead-to-beautiful-destinations)

We can't force these innocent people to refrain themselves having involvement on different schemes that could fall them to scam traps. Indeed, that's their choice and preference and their own money. We're just providing them an advanced mindset to which benefit them, from being aware of several types of fraudulent projects which isn't worthy to invest with.

Just to ask on whose the one who do blame up crypto and internet?For sure you are pertaining to those who've been scammed.I cant deny that fact that people do
directly jump in into the waters without even knowing or having second thoughts about legitimacy.They would only discover it out when its already too late.
Let it be because people do learn from their mistakes even myself when i do start up on this market ive been a fan on investing with these Hyips and ponzi until i make myself learn into a more wise and smart person when it comes to things here on cryptospace.

in crypto the mindset becomes important, because if they have a low standard of mindset they must raise their mindset with their respective methods that can be learned. the purpose is to prepare before investing or trading in crypto, because they can only manage your funds.

some people make investments on the internet without their knowledge just following the trend or inviting friends without learning more. and usually they always think that investing in the internet will make them get rich quick. even though statements like this are wrong. in every investment we must not only think about profits we must also think about risks. and I always recommend doing research in earnest before investing.

Why would a person blame others for their own mistakes? Well its easier to blame others then to take responsibility for your actions! People are afraid to admit they were wrong about something, cause others will look them differently.
To make a point, good people deal with their mistakes and consequences, they don`t blame others. Bad and weak people blame others and they try with all their power to put their mistake on someones elses back!

You are absolutely right. People are actually scammed by their greed. Scam projects always make appetizing promotions and those who believe in it are mostly inexperienced. When this inexperience is combined with greed, the result is usually loss. However, they should not think about how I can make a profit, but how not to lose my investment. At that case, the result is completely different.

Just because Cryptocurrencies are decentralized mediums of payments doesn't mean one can't get scammed if due diligence or adequate research is not done. People who fall victim to this are those who are usually chasing get rich quick schemes. For the fact that crypto is decentralized, there's no one to be blamed more than the victim. Why would you submit your details to a phishing website? or who would you blame for not adding 2FA or a strong password to your Exchange or wallet accounts? There you have it.

the crypto market is free, the crypto market is full of challenges and everything that happens in the crypto market is also sometimes unpredictable. so I think there is nothing to blame because every decision and what they do is based on their abilities, it's just that someone needs to learn and read a lot about the blockchain industry before making decisions in this industry.

Everyone is to blame for their own fate. Personally, I’m not going to blame anyone specifically.

Each person who fell into the clutches of fraudsters or simply was deceived on the Internet himself went for it voluntarily, it was his choice, so be it.
However, if you look at the whole why people fall into such traps, then it seems to me that the need for money is to blame.

It is she who provokes people to rush in making rash decisions to interfere in dubious matters in the hope that this will help them finally improve their quality of life, and help make money. P
erhaps all this can be reduced to a lack of knowledge or banal ignorance in general, which does not allow people to see real opportunities and use it correctly.

Sometimes it all depends on the initial notion people get about crypto investment, so it's not really cool putting the blame of them entirely. For instance, if I know nothing about crypto and a close pal who doesn't trade or do bounties/airdrops but only invest in HYIP gives me the orientation that he is into crypto and it's all about the HYIP schemes. If I see it as an opportunity and follow his path, then get scammed (which is a must for HYIP),  you don't entirely put the blame on me since I knew nothing about crypto and got the wrong orientation. The only way you can blame such person is because he didn't do proper findings and relied on Information gotten from his friend into HYIP scams.

When you are new in online money making, you will feel confused about every decision! When I was new in the investment sector, I felt too much confused about HYIP, Pyramid scheme, ads clicking money earning ways! I invested in many HYIP projects and most of the time I got scammed! Then I stopped everything and started learning by myself! Learning is the best answer for every confusion, so, newbies should research and educate themselves first, later comes investment!  

especially greed is a factor that people get caught up in unclear projects. basically the scammer project gives a big lure, so it can capture the victims. laziness and lack of knowledge can also be victims of deception in the crypto world, and even if possible outside of crypto as well.

my suggestion to be active in a community, it's better if in your area you have a community. and always update the news everyday, to minimize the next koraban by scammers.

actually it is difficult plus it's a bit boring, not infrequently many people get scam, but atleast you will learn how to choose good project but it not accurate 100% you still can be get scamed even the display of project is promising, but its ok atleast you increase your chance from not being scamed.

You are right, this is a common mistakes. HYIP is very eye catchy with those high returns I admit I  joined and was a victim too from few HYIP websites and I was the one to blame for being naive and lack of knowlegde but I move on and learned from those mistakes. I discourage everyone to join it but if you still wants try in your own risk.

It's an unwritten rules to never invest into something fishy like Ponzi or even HYIP. Even there's saying that if it's too good to be true then get away from it.
Some people are just easily taken over by their greedines thinking that they will get some profit out of thin air while in reality is that their money is gonna be the one will be gone.
There should be some warning in every crypto wallet not to join ponzi or HYIP to help such people from being scammed I guess.

Indeed. They're just using it to benefit from what they know and what others don't. Humans are becoming more evil. Using their knowledge in a not proper way just for their own good. That sucks but we cannot change nor do anything about it. That's why, we, as an individual must teach people we personally know, what we know for them not to be the next victim of scammers. Humans are also the one who can stop humans. Internet and technology are just our armors and weapon and we are the one deciding whether to use it for good and evilness.

Yeah, they are to be blamed if they get scammed to some extent. It is really sad they can't see whats real and whats fake. Well, greed is what that makes them blind. They see offers that are too tempting, that are too good to be true, but they don't seem to think twice, jump into the trap and then starts to cry. But, they do learn something out of it. At least they become more careful next time before trying out anything new.

You are right, the fault really lies with the person be it the fraudster or the victim. Greed and not understanding a business is why people are always fooled, especially for those who do not understand technology. We also can not blame a tool as an outlet, people must be given education and understanding of fraud.

I'm actually a scam on the first time when I was newbie but I have lots of knowledge about scam the only problem is when I was invested my BTC in cloud mining and investment site I just attracted to many users who giving real proof if withdrawal that is why they encourage me to invest on those HYIP or pyramid scheme that I thought it will give me a passive income. I was super down at that time my family 1-day one eat and I am also doing captcha typing which is too hard to earn before.

But even I've scammed before I still lucky they encourage me to search and found this forum and learn a lot here on the forum. So thanks to them that they bring me here where I sell some services and join on any bounty that gives me enough money to feed my family.

So I hope those newbies should go directly here on the forum and ask anything related to crypto if it is scam or not so that they can avoid use scam websites early.

People have been getting scammed via every new technology for probably centuries, and the internet is just a new medium by which scammers do their thing.  Anyone remember the Home Shopping Network from at least the 1990s'?  I'd call their prices a scam and it was all done by television and telephone.

And certainly people are responsible (or should at least take responsibility) for protecting themselves from scammers on the internet, but we all know it's still going to happen regardless.  Fear and greed are very powerful motivators and those emotions are played upon by scammers...constantly.  That's why there have been so many people being taken in by these ico's and garbage altcoins that will never be worth anything.  You can change technology but human nature remains the same, always.

crypto and internet are not crimes but this place is made a crime by irresponsible parties especially fraudsters. You can see how great blockchain technology and the cryptoqurrency industry can be categorized as a Field of money, and many people are misusing this place for Ponzi schemes to get rich.

Scam are formed from greed for profit easily, and the internet and crypto are free media. they can easily use this technology to commit fraud, so knowledge becomes the most basic security before carrying out any other security

For beginners it takes a lot of time to learn and gain knowledge, especially in the internet, sometimes because of insufficient knowledge they are prone to fraud cases, this often happens everywhere and there are already many victims. Appealed to beginners who do not understand do not force yourself to engage in a business on the internet including business in crypto such as investment for example

a large wave of new internet users are experiencing the same thing, unfortunately there is no control system from various businesses like this. only a few review sites. I actually regretted the actions of the victims who finally used the reputation of bitcoin negatively to others as a form of hatred. Generally the victims are interested because the ponzi invitations are widely spread on social media accounts, especially from their own friends.

Greed and ignorance are one of the main reason why a lot of people gets scammed on the internet. A lot of people put their money without even knowing what they are getting involved in that is why a lot of scammer targets people who are new to crypto or investment. That is why when investing it is your sole responsibility to educate your self and to find out about the team's legitimacy in providing the business.

You are very right, people should be blamed for their own actions on the internet. Most times, lack of knowledge or ignorance is really the cause of all these happenings, what you don't know is bigger than you, yet without any knowledge you get yourself to invest in what you have no idea about,what were you thinking?  Infact I believe the major reason would be Greed, after seeing the reward, you just want to get rich without any research. Whatever is the outcome is what they deserve.

Ah. It's a half half to be fair.

When a lot of people use the internet it's a huge mess, doing transactions in person it's very hard to get scammed and when they go and buy some stuff of a major retailor and it arrives it easy to think that no one would ever scam on the internet.

It's hard to teach this thing, but for people who are frequent users and do understand everything, it's hard to make excuses for them when they get scammed by pretty obvious Ponzi's, HYIP's, etc. I mean look at bitconnect, can't believe people fell for that...

yes i agree with you cryptocurrency and internet is not a crime. cryptocurrency and internet exist to simplify our lives. but there will be bad people who will use cyptocurrency for crime and the target of these bad guys is beginners who don't do research before investing. they just follow the HYIP and will benefit quickly. this is wrong thinking. to make a profit in investing crypto we have to work hard to analyze the market and be patient with fluctuations in coin prices.

Well, Cryptocurrency is just a tool that is being used by unknown people. It is not controlled by anyone and it has nothing to do with things such as investment schemes/HYIPs. They used the popularity of cryptocurrency to get the attention of their victims. They most likely offer a big return after a quick investment.

Fluctuations being part of this market is needed to determine how will you take advantage or take chances. Those who became victims of
scam are people that didn't bothered to work finding information with things to wanted to invest.

You are responsible with whatever things you are doing over the internet. Make sure to review and study everything.

My advice to all newbies and new crypto investors is to first seek out knowledge before anything else, nothing comes easily you have to make sacrifices as well, losing money and time for knowledge is not lost if you learn from your mistakes you will be advanced

Yeah, a lot of us trying new thing and sometimes taking the risk just to earn money even how small amount it is, they will do everything to earn money but some people are also using the internet to scam people, and I agree that internet is not to be blame because we still have a choice if we want to enter those HYIP or Pyramid Scheme.

But that's the thing isn't it? People actually CAN see what's real and they CAN feel inside that something is shady and scammy, but they think they are smart and they can get in before everyone else, and get out before the dumping starts.

It's like HYIPs, people know what they're getting into. They just think they can get out before the game ends.

The people who already know the ponzi scheme and still want to take advantage from it is also a criminal for me, because from their motive they know they will get benefits fom other people loss.
I'm sure if people that already know the ponzi scheme won't invested in, the ponzi scheme must be dissapear because no people will invite another people to get trapped

If we became victim of scam due to lack of knowledge its our fault and we are the one to blame on why we end up losing our money.

Newbies thought its very easy to earn like you just need to invest and wait for the return but its not that easy. Gaining knowledge and working hard are the key to earn here and it depends on what kind of earning opportunity you're going to try.

So if you're a newbie educate yourself first to know many things about crypto or in other online earning opportunity.

in connection with the world of the internet is very vulnerable to all kinds of fraud including in the cryptoqurrency industry one of the places of wealth redistribution and you can see that here someone can make big money both negatively and positively. so before you go any further about the internet or crypto investment make sure you learn about this before taking part in it. because scamers are always everywhere

Not only newbies but greed has something to do with people getting scammed, there are people who are very much into investing, and yet they still get scammed I have a lot of Facebook friends who have been into investing but still getting scam, they know that there are a lot of scams around, but still prefer to invest because of greed.

Supporting an investment that can make a huge return on investment can never be trusted. And why do they still admit it even though they know it will only harm their hard-earned money. Maybe they already know the possibilities but they continue to invest in them because of the big money they make.

Hope to have the law, To also put in jail those who promoted such hyips invesment. Because this is the only way I can think of preventing scams from happening again and again.

Investing in cryptoqurrency is indeed very promising and HYIP plays a role and takes the opportunity to make projects with the lure of getting huge profits to attract people to invest in them.
and the real mistake lies in those who are tempted Because of greed to get huge profits without being based on knowledge and intelligence in thinking to find out to investigate the truth.

Mind-set is another thing but we must have it in every business only those can understand who are business-minded personalities. So instead of blaming others, we should work on ourselves not good to put all your money at once just take step by step movement and trust only those who don’t mislead you but give you the right path to move.

Some phishing or scamming issues are very difficult to detect or identified in the first place because it may be planned very well. A typical example is what happens to ICOs projects which presents all the qualities a good project may need yet run away with funds in the end.
However, most of the scam or phisphing activities may be identified through researching thoroughly into the project and paying heed to all the fraud alerts and cautioned around.

Even in real life, one should always be responsible for his doings.


This quite hit me, because I am that type of guy lol

Why are you blaming the victims rather than the criminals? Are you one of those people who are saying that there are no scammers if there are no victims? That is wrong. Put the blame on the criminals themselves. There are no scam victims if there are no scammers. People are greedy, naive, innocent, susceptible to too-good-to-be-true offers, but this does not mean that they can be scammed or the scammers are free to make trap for them.

Beginners in the cryptocurrency sphere always have a lot of problems and difficulties, and unfortunately everyone goes through it and we too often come across various scam companies that deceive people for money, but gradually we understand how to protect ourselves and how to act correctly in various situations and we get the right one for us experience to deal with scammers.

agree. knowledge is your basic, and it will apply on everything. and basically, people got scam because they wont to make research about that information, careless to make decision, and when it happen they just complain without aware of their mistake

Scammers have been using cryptocurrency as their pathway and opportunity to earn which is really affecting the crypto community negatively. That's the reason why we are always advised to learn first before trying investing. We have to be observant and wise upon investing and it's a good thing that there are people who are always giving us warnings and reminders. One common mistake of newbies these days is their interpretation of cryptocurrency. Our knowledge and wisdom about cryptocurrency is the best weapon that we could have to get rid of scammers.

Are you sure that crypto / internet is not a crime here? I think just the opposite. including cryptoqurrency space full of money and money has made someone greedy, including scamers who are increasingly ferocious to continue launching their evil plans here. We must realize that all investments are risky, reconsider before taking part here.

We all know that they use internet as their tool to scam people so if you have known a lot than other scammers then it will be good.  If the scammer doesn't scam anything then there are no scammers right there so it is good if all of us aware about what happen to stop or reduce scammers.

Please post a topic about altcoin because it is altcoin discussion.

It's just stereotype. I mean scammers are everywhere and it doesn't matter what they scammer is a scammer anyway. If we are comparing the amount of scammers using crypto and cash it's definitely cash that has so much scammers using it. The general bad perception of cryptos are created by those mainstream medias anyway. Even though I agree that knowledge is the best weapon against scammers however some people are just lacking common sense they easily get baited by even simplest thing which is a wishful thinking of making profit in short time.

I agree. First I want to point out the lack of knowledge in investing in crypto. Why are you going to invest on a project without even researching what the project is all about? This is the common mistake of people with cryptocurrency. And when the investment fails, they are going to blame someone else with that. Second, the scammers in cryptocurrency. Please, work yourselves up than stealing people's money.

Scammers cannot scam people if we will be all vigilant with  what we are investing at, we can control them and eliminate if we will not trust easily.  Ask all the possible questions that we need in order for us to be satisfied, not just because they conduct AMA does not mean that they are really and legit, we should not based on it .

From spam emails and phising links to clickbaits and fake promos, the internet is a chaotic collection of scams. It will the person's fault if he fell on the trap. He could blame the technology all he want, but it will never change the fact that he was easily be swayed by his greed and ignorance. Cryptocurrency is created as free market so expect that there will be good and bad people here and it is your own job and responsilibity to choose who will be trusted or not. It will be you who will experinence the concequences so be cautious with too-good-to-be-true deals.

Only if humans are not greedy, then we will be living in a paradise. Both scammers and victims are greedy. The latter just know how to control it better than the former. Also, scammers are not as ignorant as their victims. Victims are only focusing on themselves and about money so it easy to fool them around a maze. This is why it is important to study continuously about the industry you want to venture. The crypto industry is an open source of knowledge and experiences. It is basically fee, just be careful where you will get the research and compare it wuth other resources.

People are really comparable with the teenagers now a days, they are so wild and curious up to the point where they are trying tonexplore things that could put them in danger. Their impulsive curiousity and their desire to know things are leading them into losing money. Newbies are being strictly advised to study what they are about to enter so that they won't be fooled and harmed by the things they don't know and didn't know that such harm is existing. Although scammers are the root of all of this, yes, people and their ignorance are to be blamed with their lost.

I agree as the statement you have said above, that people must be blamed for what happened to them because they make choices without seeing the risks first. an important role in this is before doing anything related to money or investment, do your research first and don't use all your capital for the same purpose.

They are not wrong because they do not know. Unless they understand but still do that they are said to be wrong. And maybe many of them have experienced it, then it will be made a lesson for them. So they want to learn and read often, and eventually they become smart.

the most common mistake people make is that they listen to “experts” who tell them which coin to invest in and those people believe them and do as they say and invest all the money with the hope of huge profits. I also made such mistakes before and this was very sad for me.

People always find those who they can lean on to direct them in any directions, they are too scared of making decisions themselves, on twitter i used to see channels of people like cryptofreak, crtypobull telling people to invest in a token or coin for good ROI but those projects are garbage

I am of the same opinion. In most cases, people are to blame for their problems themselves. Especially if they do something on the Internet. Here everyone is responsible for his own safety.

Of course, you can say that those who go to projects that later deceive people are to blame, and those, in turn, lose money. However, all this is due to the fact that many do not think before going to such projects. They just have money in their eyes and they think that you can earn money without putting time, knowledge and effort into it. And also most just want quick money. The same applies to those who create obviously fraudulent projects. They also just want money. So it turns out that everyone wants to work quickly and without much effort, but not everyone succeeds.

Cryptocurrency and the internet are two things that although have different meaning and functionalities, but work hand I hand together. We need to be conscious of the fact that, our presence online, when accessing anything crypto related, can get us predisposed to some things. So we need to take all necessary precautionary measures to stay safe.

There's a general believe that whenever you got scammed online,  it's either you are being greedy or you lack the adequate knowledge about what you are getting involve in.

Like you said,  people are to be blame and not the internet or crypto sector. I learnt of recent that people are still actively invole in ponzi scheme which was rated as one of the most risky investment one could think of.

The ideology behind ponzi and HYIP is clear. Collection from MR A and giving MR B then collecting from both MR B and MR C to pay up for MR A. so anyone who knows this concept and still go ahead to participate in such investment must be blame for his/her actions

They don't care about that since they are being the greedy person to grab fast money from the crypto market. Internet is something that can't be blamed and crypto too. But how their attitude to protect themselves from the scammer is something needed in this case. So many people are getting scammed because they lack due diligence.
People need more knowledge to identify legit one. knowledge is playing its role in this case but people don't care about that.

There are times that what happens to you on internet might be an accident, which is unavoidable. Although, some of this incidences can be avoided. We just come across them to learn some lessons, which others can also learn from.
So, do not wait until you are scammed, before you can learn your lessons.

I totally agree with you. The man reason behind falling victim to tempting baits is the greed of a person to become rich without doing much of work. Scammers take advantage of this nature. If someone wants to achieve big, he will have to work big. Nothing sweet in this life can be achieved without sleepless nights. The most important thing is knowledge. The more you know, the easier becomes your survival.

more precisely you do not believe in new things, you must know what you will do, it will make you not fall prey, and do not easily trust anyone before you know it yourself, do not blame others because the decision maker is in you

I agree with you that most times people don't learn what they suppose to learn before making a move but the truth is that anybody can get scammed irrespective of your level.

Not only newbies,anyone with greediness will get trapped by these scammers it happens more often in crypto industry because people get lured with huge returns if they deposit their money now or high among of discounts to invest in a new projects,for that they have to balme themselves for trusting their illogical mind when they see money.

Because newbies enter crypto business after they see other people success. And newbies not see what that success people do before achieve it. That is what make they think if cryptocurrency is instant way to get money. And then they make an investment in HYIP, ponzi, Pyramid scheme and any business like that. Although people who already involved in crypto for long time, sometimes trapped in ponzi scheme too.

I think at this time there are many people who are easily affected by HYIPs and other crimes because I think there are still many new traders who do not have experience about internet business so many people are deceived like that, hopefully there is no such crime because with that it can make the name cryptocurrency not good anymore.

It's true, it's their fault. That is why the importance of reading and learning first before actually taking steps. If they understand exactly what they are doing. Stay to make future plans to be safer to scam and other risks.

There are numerous ways to be scammed and it is not limited to just HYIP and scam websites, some scams are so deep and elaborate that even professionals still fall for it, major companies worldwide has been victims sometimes, sometimes it's just a matter is a simple hack so you shouldn't blame people for mistakes, nobody is above mistakes.

Their blame is not the fact that they listened to an expert, they can listen to expert but acting on it without proper research is what their problem as always been, because they feel those experts have supernatural intelligence not knowing that they are all speculators and they have no special expertise to actually know what tomorrow holds for that particular coin.

People need to learn to aspire to be an expert by themselves, and the only way to be an expert is when they learn to study the market carefully and how to research on some of these projects to get the best of it out of them, if we research on the project, I believe that things will be able to unfold themselves to the person to either be a positive investment move or a negative investment move.

Yes you are right. People are always excite to try and rush to do something in the use of internet and crypto I think it is possible to learn fast but the problem is even they are not knowledgable enough they will start to invest so at the end they will failed or victim of fraud and scam. All we know that knowledge in industry is important because we are doing business.

They are not naive actually. Most of them technically are part of the scam. They are even racing to be first to register so they can take advantage as the top in the hierarchy. They often see these as an opportunity though so whenever something like of a doubler or a pyramid scheme comes out, they always wanted to be the first so they can get more money. It takes more than months before the scam opportunity will stop on their own and everyone will be a victim of scam. All them claimed to have been scam when they are all part of it.

It's money. A lot of people would definitely try anything just to gain more. There are those whose gambles pay off and there are those who end up in the losing side of the coin. Anyways, the loss itself should serve as a lesson already. Losing money on scams can make you skeptic about things in the internet that seems too good to be true.

If people are promised great wealth and they give their money, it is their fault, but there are professional scammers who can deceive even experienced people.

Let us think it through before we judge everyone that has been scammed and thinking they are fools that don’t know what they are doing. I have never been scammed, so don’t think that is why I am more on the defensive side, but if you look at the way people have really been scammed more in cryptocurrency, it is not even through all these pyramid scheme or hyip.

HYIP is easy to sport, and those who are taking part in that one should really be blamed, but what of projects that comes like a clean project to get money from people, for investment just like we have other successful ico project and at the end they scam their investors. Do you really think it is easy to spot them out no matter the level of knowledge you must have gathered?

This is an usual thing happened for new bitcoin investor at that time, i've experienced it also, first bought at 2017 and the price still about 4k USD.
Then i entered a market and see other coins are pumping out heavily, then i moved my investment to several coins, and it ended bad because i don't have any basic knowledge of trading and just rely on my luck.
And right now i felt guilty and regret my decision, but it was just a beginning of our journey which means we're experienced now and ready for the next journey.

I was one of those who bought BTC and invested it on a quick-rich return of investment then got scammed right after I joined! The company is having problems at that time but I was blind enough to not realize it. It was recommended by a friend so there, I lose about around $40? It might be small money but I could buy a sack of rice from it. Anyway, I guess everything was trial and error and we have to experience losing first and charge it to experience.

Before entering in a community like this, you should be more informed since it is all about money here, what I mean is that you own money is at stake here so if you dont study first and you tried to invest in some project you may be scammed if you dont learn to study basics and important information for you to earn. Scamming is normal here since it is online, we are in a digital world, we are making money online, we all just need internet for us to access this sector. So I recommend we should be aware in every step and decision we make for us to secure our money. Dont trust anyone that you know, even if they are offering you some good stuffs, they are saying that because they want your money.

therefore before you or anyone wants to invest with crypto or things about the internet need further research or at least understand all the risks. people always have ambitions to get rich quickly without their knowledge. People often experience being scammed because of limited knowledge.

Sometimes we just end up getting scammed. No one wants it. But we can't just blame the victims all the time. Yes it's their responsibility to be careful but why are we blaming the vitcims? Not everyone who got scammed are because they're lazy to learn or. Sometimes people just took them for granted. It's still the scammer's fault for doing a bad thing. Instead of blaming them for what they are lacking, why not help them grow?

If you are talking about money, then I am talking about the fact that crypto money has made people go crazy, especially laymen crazy because of crypto, all they think of is money and not think about the risk of investing with cryptoqurrency.

It is already a basic human trait, people today are very greedy for profit, no matter what.
Whereas if we think the more benefits offered by an investment of course the greater the risk we can get, of course, in investing both in cryptocurrency and various other investments that exist on the internet certainly have a risk of fraud so that in this case, we as investment actors are people who are take full responsibility for what we do, even we cannot blame others in this matter.

Newbies don't really take time in studying how any many things on the internet work especially HYIPs and most often they are very greedy and gullible are easily carried away by juicy offers of course most of them wanted to make quick money thus get scammed and even when warned not to fall for those internet pranks they ignored those warning until they get scammed before realizing their mistakes.

I agree with your point, from some of the reviews that you tell me it is indeed the fact that many beginners are tempted by the sweet promises offered by the project which turned out to be a scam. lack of knowledge and greed is one of the factors why someone easily gets scammed.

no one balmes the internet because its not an investment but i see some people blame cryptos which is i think acceptable because crypto is an investment medium . many hyip and pyramid scheme/scams are using the name crypto but even if people knew that these types of investment are for temporary only , they still take risk to earn quick buck . again , there is nothing wrong about that . complaining is really part of the humans nature and we cant do anything about that but ignore those people .

That is very alarming. But we cannot just blame them right away sometimes it is not about their greed. They have as well their basic needs maybe they see it as an option for them to obtain money. Nonetheless they would not be doing it if they are weatlhy. Might lookout for it but the interest is right there but to fully engage? I don't think so.

For me there is no one to blame, everyone would want to try something new, but with their desire without wanting to try or learn first it's a stupid thing, many know that if investing in the online world surely in cryptocurrency has a great risk , it's better to take care of yourself than to blame others for our sake

the problem is that now a lot of fraud around each member of the community. When a newcomer is constantly faced with cheating he is more likely to leave the industry. Popularization is important for us but for this we need regulators so that people can trust projects and feel protected. Until that changes we'll be a small community.

That is why I don't like people who are interested in cryptocurrency just because they are influenced by the lure of big profits. Although that can be achieved, but there is a process that must be passed, there is an ecosystem that is studied, there is a risk that must be understood to be able to reduce its impact. Success in cryptocurrency can not be obtained instantly and only rely on luck.

People just try to jump to conclusion without doing any kind of proper research, they are just lazy to work and want some kind of shortcut to work for them and then they end up getting scammed so then they blame the internet and ICO for their ignorant and lazy behavior.

No one can be blamed on losses. It is all due to not researching thoroughly before investing and being greedy to not give up what you are. In the cryptocurrency market, investing everything is risky, no money is 100% safe. If you invest, you should shift your mental worth first and believe in your decision      8)

They share a great deal of the responsibility for losing their money to scammers, after all we know very well why those people invest money in websites that promise them to get great profits in a short amount of time, they do it only for the money even if is obvious that obtaining those kind of results is impossible, however we must not forget either that the ones that are directly responsible for this are the scammers which are taking advantage of people like them and they keep doing this because no one denounces them so they can be prosecuted.

From every decision we make, there is a risk that we will bear. It is true that we have to do research before deciding to invest because without knowing in detail what we are investing, then we will bear the loss

People often don’t do any kind of proper research and just want to get rich over night without the hustle to work hard. They need to understand that only with strong struggle comes strong success, but these newbies, don’t work hard or do anything and just sparkle their money over shit projects and in the end blame the internet.

First of all this isn't new information, all fault has service user. Most of the time rush user get scammed. Before download or open new wallet check twice that this wallet is original. Phishing app was uploaded in playstore of Atomic wallet.

I think the major reason why people are swindled online is because of greed and ignorance. Many enter into the cryptocurrency space witht the intention of becoming billionaires overnight. This mentality, without really understanding that price can move in any direction helps newbies along their path to huge losses. Also, their inability to conduct proper research before investing in a project is another key factor.

Not all of the fault can be blamed if that was the fault of users. So many users have been getting scammed but there are other users too that are not getting scammed. not so many people are getting scammed through phishing link compared with scam ico and HYIP. Remember the multi-billion case of bitconnect.

Then you have to tell the house exactly what the criteria that you use in selecting this product during research because we make it sound like the research is so easy and as if those who are falling victim of these scam projects are not doing research. I know that we have some ignorant people that are very blind to see some of these warnings and advice which they chose some of these projects randomly and based on hype, but it is not everyone that is that ignorant.

There are many people that will do research and even verify the team, but at the end of the project, they still will not make it, and if you look at the style that these people use right now to scamming, they don’t just take money from you and then disappear, they even enter exchange and then leave the project to rotten without further development.

yes the internet and crypto are not crimes. it's the people who commit crimes with the internet that we have to blame. and evil is always in cyberspace or in the real world.
and what we need to do to avoid being targeted by a HYIP or scam project is that we have to do our research seriously before deciding to invest and join a new project. and don't be easily tempted by a large salary or gift. because some scam projects always offer big rewards.

Well, here's the case, if criminals see the platform as easy, they will target it as their priority, yes we can't really escape the fact that there are people committed to scam others, and it is some how part to blame the platform itself if they aren't fully secured in a sense that criminals should feel a risk when targeting a platform. In short, there  are really people meant to scam, what we can just do to stop them is to protect what we have so we'll be safe.

Every body wants to earn money but no one wants to learn first, the only result they will get back will hurt because they will fall for every traps on the internet, its simply laziness and ignorance

People who always blame others when they are exposed to scam traps, HYIPs and others usually they have not learned anything from this forum, they just want to make money in an instant way. At least they have to learn first how to look for a bounty or a good project that avoids scammers and harms. When investing and it turns out the project was fake, the one who was blamed for the first time was the person who provided the referral. As a beginner or new to the world of crypto must learn more and do not be lazy to find out about the project you want to follow.

Till date many people still patronize HYIP websites not because they keep losing but they manage to still make money out of them, greediness is the only disastrous plan in HYIP platforms, i am not encouraging people to join them because they are highly dangerous but we can't stop people from joining them, sooner or later they will lean their lessons

People are deceived on the internet in my opinion because of the greed factor. Some directly invest funds in new projects without doing research first and when they realize that they have been deceived, they blame others. In my opinion, when deciding to invest, the risk has become our responsibility and we should not blame others

Such people are food from con artists. they don't want to learn from experience and improve their analysis. I think their money will be used up, they only rely on luck to come to him, even though investment here is not the preferred fortune

Commonly happening to people who are not aware with what they are doing around the internet, there's always a must to continue learning before you go fully involve with this market, knowledge is your tool to make sure that you'll be able to catch up and continue getting much higher chances of success. Keep in mind that there's no one to be blame if you mistakenly execute your investment.

those affected by scams due to ponzi, HYIP, or pyramid schemes only think of large profits in a short time. Research is very important in this regard to avoid scams and not greedy in investment. It's better to daily trading or invest long-term on altcoin that has potential

Investment testing is a very wise decision especially to invest in the places that they see fit. Profitable investment is not due to intenet but by the investor himself, we should not blame.

It might not be because of the Internet. due to investors who are not qualified as well as experienced, they only make losses. Do not blame

Yes, cryptocurrencies and intenets here are not evil. People should not blame what happened to them.

Yes it is true we are to blame for whatever we have done.
It is our choice me made the decision ,
For those who fall victim on those scam it is their fault for being greedy and lazy for not trying to have a proper research before investing.

No one is immune from mistakes, but it's important to be able to learn from mistakes. We can listen to the advice of experts, friends, anyone, who advises investing in one or another coin. But the decision is made only by yourself, and it should be deliberate.

Everything goes back to each person, I think many new investors or beginners who start investing in cryptocurrency without knowing, understanding and learning about cryptocurrency, and they just want to get profits without knowing more about cryptocurrency and only make decisions according to opinions other people they trust.

For some reason, many beginners are so chasing big money that they completely forget about their safety. But about it is necessary to think in the first place. No one will protect you, you have no one to rely on but yourself.

If we are being victimize by scammers at first, we dont need to blame ourselves because it is not our fault that we believe them, if you do your part and still get scammed for the first time it is good to blame them, BUT when you are being scammed by many times I think the one who is irresponsible and should be blamed is yourself, you need to learn on your past experiences so that it will not happen again, you need to reseach everything first so that by next time you will not lose any money and been hurt.

That's a harsh point of view, I know a friend who got into the Cryptocurrency space because he has been hearing about how you could double and triple your money within a short period of time and so on his first foray, he got into HYIP thinking it was legit and his funds was wiped out.

We were all newbies at one time and didn't know better, many people here invested in crap ICOs, many people got hacked because they didn't know to secure their accounts well, many people lost precious private keys and even though sometimes it's their fault, most times it's just a lack of knowledge or experience and they shouldn't have to be blamed for their mistakes, the losses already caused enough pain and thought them a lesson.

Anybody can be a victim of hyip, pyramid schemes or scam projects. Think of it this way, if you have had enough information of what you are about to join, that is a different case. But when you don't and found a project and after going through it believes its all good to go in,you don't put a blame on the person. Even you the Op can be a victim 

The internet is useful for civilization and can be used by anyone for any purpose. People can build their business through the internet and I think many positive things can be done with the internet. If there is internet abuse for fraud, I think the user is to blame because we can easily do research on the internet

They are only interested in high income without thinking about risk. They only see the success of others without knowing their failures. At least we must learn when we want to enter a new world in order to be able to adapt and minimize the risks that occur. Investment is not as easy as imagined, there are many HYIP risks, scams, frauds etc. that can occur.

Yes, being fooled twice is our fault , knowing the kind of scams how does scammers doing it and everything and still we failed we victimize again , we dont need to blame other people we should blame ourselves, we should learn so that we can avoid that thing to be happen again and we can warn other peole so that they will not experience this too because they are educated enough and learned enough.

Yes, it is absolutely true that in order to use the Internet correctly, you need to learn a lot. At the moment, newcomers, not knowing the Internet, very often encounter tricks of scammers. But mostly these are people who are looking for easy money. And on this scammers earn very good money. And I want to give advice, no need to chase free money.

Understanding people, especially new people about the crypto market is always wrong. they always thought that the crypto value that had risen to the moon became a benchmark would make them rich. There was hype at that time, and people started buying and finally the crypto market suddenly fell. they despaired and blamed crypto for their failure. I don't think they know that the crypto market is volatile and could rise at any time or vice versa, fall. they only see one side, without seeing or analyzing the other possibilities that will happen.

All too often something like this happens, not only crypto space but investment assets or online trading on other platforms. one example is forex, where expertise is needed in analyzing market movements with a very fast time. fast profit or quickly lose, it depends on our strategy, analysis, and timing. we should not blame any platform that is on the internet when we lose, unless our account is hacked, it's different context again.

Everybody wants to get rich right here and right now, but the reality is pretty different. You need to work hard and especially on researching projects and checking the team members, before putting your money into something.

Well, it need to have a deep comprehension how to manage own money not to have been fooled when investing as well as not knowing well enough high tech (Internet, crypto tech etc) may involve everyone in extra costs and looses. I am quite sure if a person is not familiar with Internet it is better for him to plead someone to help him when making decisions and transactions. I would not recommend anyone to invest in any projects (and not only in Internet) unless everything in a particular project is clear. I know that sometimes scammers pledge that their projects are wonderful and absolutely honest but anyway an investor gotta check out everything carefully himself.

Ofcourse people are to blame for the actions they take both online or offline, crypto or non crypto space, but unfortunately nobody is willing to take responsibility for their actions, always looking for somebody or something to blame, just the way some people will blame John McAfee for their investment loss ::)  dah! the guy didn't force anyone to follow and do what he tweets or say, if you do so and loss money in the process you can only blame yourself,

Same applies to people who still engage and invest in hyip and pyramid schemes after the warnings for people to stay away, if you loss money to this sites, you can't blame anyone but yourself, the decision to invest was entirely yours.