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Other => Off-topic => Topic started by: captainteemo on November 16, 2011, 11:17:10 PM



Title: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: captainteemo on November 16, 2011, 11:17:10 PM
http://americancensorship.org/
https://www.mozilla.org/sopa/


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on November 16, 2011, 11:38:54 PM
Namecoin holders voted for this bill.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: paraipan on November 16, 2011, 11:41:39 PM
Namecoin holders voted for this bill.

not funny matthew  :'( get a grip


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: Matthew N. Wright on November 16, 2011, 11:56:54 PM
Namecoin holders voted for this bill.

not funny matthew  :'( get a grip

When DNS becomes the enemy, Namecoin can only go up uP UP!


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: paraipan on November 17, 2011, 12:01:13 AM
Namecoin holders voted for this bill.

not funny matthew  :'( get a grip

When DNS becomes the enemy, Namecoin can only go up uP UP!

now you're talking, hope we don't have to adopt it in a hurry though


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: deslok on November 17, 2011, 12:18:40 AM
Namecoin holders voted for this bill.

And the namecoin network implodes...


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: Sannyasi on November 17, 2011, 01:39:28 AM
i have signed both of these before finding this thread. Good post


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: JeffK on November 17, 2011, 02:00:32 AM
Really, everyone could have guessed this legislation would be in the pipe a decade ago.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: repentance on November 17, 2011, 02:05:07 AM
Half the internet is campaigning against this, including Google and Facebook.

EFF has some pretty good links on their website.

https://www.eff.org/

There is literally only one witness appearing in opposition to the bill - a Google lawyer.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/whos-missing-todays-sopa-hearing-short-list

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/public-shut-out-stop-online-piracy-act-hearings-again

Full page ad from NYT placed by Google, Facebook et al

https://i.imgur.com/Sx1Z4.jpg


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: JeffK on November 17, 2011, 02:22:06 AM
Half the internet is campaigning against this, including Google and Facebook.

EFF has some pretty good links on their website.

https://www.eff.org/

There is literally only one witness appearing in opposition to the bill - a Google lawyer.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/whos-missing-todays-sopa-hearing-short-list

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/11/public-shut-out-stop-online-piracy-act-hearings-again

Full page ad from NYT placed by Google, Facebook et al

https://i.imgur.com/Sx1Z4.jpg

**AA's have been playing the lobbying game since at least, like, when cassette tapes were around. They know how to stack this in their favor.


Fortunately even if it does go through, the opposition is much more likely to be heard in the eventual Supreme Court hearings


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: phillipsjk on November 17, 2011, 06:19:03 AM
One thing that surprised me was that The American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO) came out in favour of the proposed Stop Online Piracy Act (http://yro.slashdot.org/story/11/11/16/225233/afl-cio-and-big-content-advocate-for-sopa).

I sent them a note through their website explaining:
  • The proposed legislation would push Internet based jobs out of the country
  • That the Internet routes around censorship
  • That research and development in annoymizing software would move out of the country, much like the development of cryptographic software moved out of the country in the late 90's due to strong cryptography restrictions.
  • It would lead to the balkanization of the Internet with oppressive states like the United States and China, as well as darknets (running namecoin) would each have their own DNS "Islands."
  • Legislation implementing the 1996 WIPO "Copyright" and "Performances and Phonographs" treaties (such as the DMCA) will lead to the phase-out of the "general-purpose computer" (started with Vista, may be completed with Windows 8 ). The loss of cheap computing will further stagnate the manufacturing sector. Worker productivity will drop as formerly automated tasks are again done without the aid of a computer.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: freequant on November 17, 2011, 06:06:13 PM
America is becoming China, as China takes over America.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: ALPHA. on November 17, 2011, 06:25:44 PM
America is being left for China. All big business is moving over there in face of pending financial instability. China is the most sovereign and populous country on the planet. The support is there especially with its manufacturing clout and hardy workforce that has an affordable cost-of-living. America will remain to be an unsustainable empire while China continues to look towards a new dawn.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: freequant on November 17, 2011, 06:35:37 PM
America is being left for China. All big business is moving over there in face of pending financial instability. China is the most sovereign and populous country on the planet. The support is there especially with its manufacturing clout and hardy workforce that has an affordable cost-of-living. America will remain to be an unsustainable empire while China continues to look towards a new dawn.

Exactly.
In other words, Matthew is a moron.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: ALPHA. on November 17, 2011, 06:41:05 PM
I really don't care what his IQ his. I just tend to the discussion.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: ALPHA. on November 17, 2011, 07:02:14 PM
'Moron' was originally fostered as a technical label for an individual with an IQ from 51 to 70.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: ALPHA. on November 17, 2011, 07:12:14 PM
Matthew, you're fine. You're no fool. You're not insane. You're just Matthew and I like you just the way you are.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: Sannyasi on November 17, 2011, 10:06:06 PM
Sounds like a bruce wagner thread now..... and it shouldn't be


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: captainteemo on November 17, 2011, 10:28:30 PM
I really don't care what his IQ his. I just tend to the discussion.
Please stay on topic and stop shitting up my thread, Immuanuel Junior.


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: Snapman on November 17, 2011, 10:38:42 PM
welcome to the united states of embarrassment, land of the "free?", home of the brave police state


Title: Re: ♥♥♥ more censorship ♥♥♥
Post by: JeffK on November 18, 2011, 06:07:00 PM
America is being left for China. All big business is moving over there in face of pending financial instability. China is the most sovereign and populous country on the planet. The support is there especially with its manufacturing clout and hardy workforce that has an affordable cost-of-living. America will remain to be an unsustainable empire while China continues to look towards a new dawn.


China has more problems than we do by far, between their bizarre money manipulation, their housing bubble that is worse than ours, and the chance of heavily stagnated or crashing population growth due to discrepancies in male/female ratios because of the one child laws, not to mention heavy heavy corruption and lack of things like building codes which let schools fall and crush thousands of children during an earthquake.