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Title: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on November 25, 2019, 02:23:10 PM
Quote
13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0


https://www.imageupload.net/upload-image/2019/11/25/IMG_20191125_201421.jpg

https://archive.md/2Drdc

So clearly we are seeing breaking rules?
Let's not mention the troll. It seems working of not feeding him. He is desperate to get people into his trolling.

Edit:
Bumped again in the same day within few hours.
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204415.msg53180514#msg53180514)


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on November 25, 2019, 02:38:09 PM
Well, just report the post. I don't understand why they keep spamming the trust page as there is not any effect on the trust score or anything, just wasting time. If they think that this is the way to change the opinion to someone, they miserably failed. If this is a way to piss off the DTs, it didn't work either. Seem it's hard for them to give up.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on November 25, 2019, 02:48:18 PM
Well, just report the post. I don't understand why they keep spamming the trust page as there is not any effect on the trust score or anything, just wasting time. If they think that this is the way to change the opinion to someone, they miserably failed. If this is a way to piss off the DTs, it didn't work either. Seem it's hard for them to give up.

I do but his time I wanted to have some conversation and wanted to get the attention of the mods (again). He is breaking rules which is not top secret and also harming the community but yet I never seen any ban to apply against him.

Talking about the trust page things, I think he enjoys it and lately no one cares at all. But his constant trolling is pathetic. I have him in my ignore list but still I see him and his posts lol
Ironic though.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: TMAN on November 25, 2019, 02:52:00 PM
Talking about the trust page things,

Just tag them back, just be as pathetic as the user is.. they will give up in time


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on November 25, 2019, 02:58:34 PM

Just tag them back, just be as pathetic as the user is.. they will give up in time
I sometimes think I should then again I think it will be the same abuse as him however I already have one for him for the money he scammed from a user.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: Text on November 25, 2019, 02:59:59 PM
I think this user should be already given a permanent ban. It's too much red tag so he can't continue using this forum with that account and stop him from breaking forum rules.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: suchmoon on November 25, 2019, 04:08:00 PM
In cases like this where the disruptive intent of the user is quite obvious and they break the rules blatantly and repeatedly - I really don't understand why they're allowed to continue.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: DireWolfM14 on November 25, 2019, 04:09:55 PM
Just tag them back, just be as pathetic as the user is.. they will give up in time

I agree with this, report his multiposts, and keep ignoring the troll.  

I would love to see GP get banned, but I have a feeling that's not going to happen.  He's just careful enough to avoid it, and there's nothing to stop him from creating another account to troll, and be just careful enough to avoid that one getting banned.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: DaveF on November 25, 2019, 09:20:28 PM
In cases like this where the disruptive intent of the user is quite obvious and they break the rules blatantly and repeatedly - I really don't understand why they're allowed to continue.

Or why theymos does not respond.
I have posted about GP, you have posted about GP, I even PMd theymos about the other thread and never head back.
I am just ignoring it for now, GP is not worth the time. If with all the warnings he still manages to steal from someone else, then that would suck, but we can only do what we can do.

I would love to see GP get banned, but I have a feeling that's not going to happen.  He's just careful enough to avoid it, and there's nothing to stop him from creating another account to troll, and be just careful enough to avoid that one getting banned.

Not really, if he gets a ban then ANY activity is going to be a ban evasion and those tend to be taken care of.

-Dave


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: Lafu on November 25, 2019, 09:26:19 PM
Just tag them back, just be as pathetic as the user is.. they will give up in time

I agree with this, report his multiposts, and keep ignoring the troll.  

Cant agree with that in some case , it means you going to the Level as he / she is !
And the most of the this Users are realy stupid that posting a shitwall 10 times on the feedback page!

Just ignore them because only 1 Feedback will have effects.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: suchmoon on November 25, 2019, 09:51:36 PM
I would love to see GP get banned, but I have a feeling that's not going to happen.  He's just careful enough to avoid it, and there's nothing to stop him from creating another account to troll, and be just careful enough to avoid that one getting banned.

That's the thing, he doesn't really give a shit about forum rules and I wouldn't call him careful. Multi-posting, repeating the same stuff across multiple threads, etc, and I'm not even talking about his posts being mostly trolling, which seems to be an unenforceable rule.

I have reported a few dozen of his posts and most got deleted. He's constantly breaking the rules and brings zero value to the forum. Good for my reporting stats but such a waste of time for everyone involved just to appease one giant troll. Given his past temp ban you'd think he should get a permanent one already or at least 60-90 days to cool off.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: marlboroza on November 25, 2019, 09:56:03 PM
So clearly we are seeing breaking rules?
I've been reporting multiposts for some time now, it is like whack a mole game - moderator remove post and after that GP do his multicraping again. GP's latest post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg53169362#msg53169362) (archived: http://archive.is/dpDYN#selection-3331.0-3330.9) not only it is multiposting, it has nothing to do with thread. I've seen people getting ban for less offenses so I am not really sure why is GP allowed to do this.
In cases like this where the disruptive intent of the user is quite obvious and they break the rules blatantly and repeatedly - I really don't understand why they're allowed to continue.
Quote applicable law that GP is not allowed to post in forum  :P


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: suchmoon on November 25, 2019, 10:06:42 PM
Quote applicable law that GP is not allowed to post in forum  :P

When and how did GP violate the rules?

Ok, ok, you convinced me. GP is a legend, his words are enshrined in forum's folklore. He should never get banned.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: DireWolfM14 on November 25, 2019, 10:31:30 PM
multicraping

What day did this alleged multicrapping happen, and how?


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: marlboroza on November 25, 2019, 10:45:24 PM
When and how did GP violate the rules?
Quote written contract between GP and forum that he/she/it is not allowed to break not existing rules.

Believing that GP violated rules is not knowing, and removing posts after not knowing is possible only in fantasy world!  :D


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on November 25, 2019, 11:48:13 PM
Talking about removing and editing posts,

Check now: https://archive.md/YyuBd
He deleted the last post and made a new post then he deleted the 2nd last post which I got in this archive.
However before taking the archive I got this screenshot:

https://www.imageupload.net/upload-image/2019/11/25/IMG_20191126_054228.jpg


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: marlboroza on November 26, 2019, 12:09:47 AM
He deleted the last post and made a new post then he deleted the 2nd last post which I got in this archive.
Actually, first two posts are merged:

https://i.imgur.com/R1ZxOus.png

I have no clue why off topic post is merged with "on" topic post, game-protect's topic is not about me ::)

Last post might be removed by moderator and posted by GP again or GP deleted it and posted again, in both cases they bumped thread second time today.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on November 26, 2019, 05:32:16 AM
~snop~
Actually, first two posts are merged:
~image snipped~
I have no clue why off topic post is merged with "on" topic post, game-protect's topic is not about me ::)

Fair enough. I really did not notice that. However surprise to know that posts get marged? Perhaps I never done that so never had to see it in my case (marged by mod).

Talking about another bump in the same day, hasn't it gone too far? It surely broke the rules again. I wonder when the rule will be enforced.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: Vod on November 26, 2019, 05:42:58 AM
I do but his time I wanted to have some conversation and wanted to get the attention of the mods (again). He is breaking rules which is not top secret and also harming the community but yet I never seen any ban to apply against him.

I doubt the administration wants to throw the ban hammer for a multiple post.   But if they do it repeatedly, and you keep reporting the posts, eventually they will be banned. 


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: hosseinimr93 on November 26, 2019, 12:46:38 PM
I do but his time I wanted to have some conversation and wanted to get the attention of the mods (again). He is breaking rules which is not top secret and also harming the community but yet I never seen any ban to apply against him.

I doubt the administration wants to throw the ban hammer for a multiple post.   But if they do it repeatedly, and you keep reporting the posts, eventually they will be banned. 

We need more clear rules.
All of us know that plagiarism will lead to permanent ban. But the rules regarding spamming, multiple posts in a row, insulting, etc. are not clear. Unclear rules can lead to different behavior from different admins and moderators toward different users.

The rules should be clear.
X times multiple posts in a row = Y-day ban
If X % of your Y last posts are deleted you will be banned for Z days.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on November 26, 2019, 12:54:42 PM
I doubt the administration wants to throw the ban hammer for a multiple post.   But if they do it repeatedly, and you keep reporting the posts, eventually they will be banned.  
How do they enforce rule 13?
If you read the edit eversion of my OP then you will realize the bump happened three times in 24 hours where one is allowed only once.
Edit: Marging them but again they bumped and what if they keep doing the same again and again?


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: suchmoon on November 26, 2019, 01:39:38 PM
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5318/53184138.html
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5318/53184217.html

Delete, repost. Clearly willfully breaking the rules.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on November 27, 2019, 10:40:45 AM
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5318/53184138.html
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5318/53184217.html

Delete, repost. Clearly willfully breaking the rules.
And yet we wait and wait and wait. How long?
We know someone is tricking the system but we (mods) are not doing anything. Does he have a special pass?


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: UmerIdrees on November 27, 2019, 01:47:05 PM
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5318/53184138.html
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5318/53184217.html

Delete, repost. Clearly willfully breaking the rules.
And yet we wait and wait and wait. How long?
We know someone is tricking the system but we (mods) are not doing anything. Does he have a special pass?

He don't have a special pass, infact no one has a special pass here. 
Unfortunately , there is no rule that troll is not allowed, so the best way is what you did , that is to put him on ignore. There is no direct accusation like plagiarism etc against GP which may lead to ban, hence we have to " WAIT"


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: hosseinimr93 on November 27, 2019, 03:07:43 PM
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5318/53184138.html
http://loyce.club/archive/posts/5318/53184217.html

Delete, repost. Clearly willfully breaking the rules.
And yet we wait and wait and wait. How long?
We know someone is tricking the system but we (mods) are not doing anything. Does he have a special pass?

He don't have a special pass, infact no one has a special pass here. 
Unfortunately , there is no rule that troll is not allowed, so the best way is what you did , that is to put him on ignore. There is no direct accusation like plagiarism etc against GP which may lead to ban, hence we have to " WAIT"

Tolling is not allowed. This is the rule number 3.

3. No trolling.

The problem is how to prove that a person is trolling.

However, trolling isn't allowed. If a user is habitually posting obviously false nonsense ("obviously false nonsense" to an outsider, NOT to someone who follows or is involved in the discussion) just to stir up trouble, then it's considered trolling, which is prohibited. Such cases should be thoroughly documented in the report though (There are tons of reports that just say "trolling", but moderators don't have time to look through each user's post).

Another problem is that rules don't say anything about punishment for trolling.
As I already said, the rules are not clear. Not only for trolling, for spamming and multiple posts in a row too.
We need more clear rules that say how many times a user can make multiple posts in a row without he is banned.



Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: UmerIdrees on November 27, 2019, 03:51:56 PM
Another problem is that rules don't say anything about punishment for trolling.
As I already said, the rules are not clear. Not only for trolling, for spamming and multiple posts in a row too.
We need more clear rules that say how many times a user can make multiple posts in a row without he is banned.

Rules are very much cleared except that we cannot define what is troll. A troll for one can be an argument for the other.
Other than this, Multiple posts are only allowed if you started a thread and reserve the next one. All expect this fall under multi post. Pretty clear.
Spamming is useless / repeated posts which is also easily identifiable.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: marlboroza on November 27, 2019, 04:24:57 PM
~
Speaking of, gp edited post again (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1535816.msg53156559#msg53156559) and now it is off topic, back-to-back shitpost under is still there. Not going to report them twice, but if anyone wants to...
We know someone is tricking the system but we (mods) are not doing anything. Does he have a special pass?
H/s doesn't and mods are removing posts and if I remember correctly hilariousandco or someone said that they are not doing anything bannable so gp will probably continue with multishitspam and moderators will continue to remove reported posts...


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: suchmoon on November 30, 2019, 07:43:31 PM
hey are not doing anything bannable

Fingers crossed, maybe this will finally do him in - seems very much like burst-spamming their service across multiple threads. There are precedents of banning for this kind of stuff.

https://meem.link/i/a/DwuEbi.jpg
Edited 2020-11-30 to fix a broken image


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on November 30, 2019, 08:51:27 PM
hey are not doing anything bannable

Fingers crossed, maybe this will finally do him in - seems very much like burst-spamming their service across multiple threads. There are precedents of banning for this kind of stuff.

https://i.snipboard.io/DwuEbi.jpg (https://i.snipboard.io/DwuEbi.jpg)
Damn it! I am on my phone. Someone needs to archive his post histiry. Of course it's exploiting the forum rule and this should do the work!

Edit:
In first 3 page found three of this kind of post from his post history and reported to the mods with this commebt:
Code:
burst spamming his service. please check content and this reference https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204415.msg53224586#msg53224586

One was for FortuneJack, another one was in mintdice and the other one was in robotbet or something.


Title: Burst spamming! 8+ posts in less than 10 minutes.
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 01, 2019, 06:26:42 PM
Archive post history. (https://archive.is/M7cbh)

Same scripted posts except changing the casino name on each. And all in less than 10 minutes, in 8 different topics!
Ban-able offense?

Quote
FortuneJack claims to operate under the 1668/JAZ license!

Game Protect currently handles several cases where casinos claiming to operate under the 1668/JAZ license scammed its customers!

The 1668/JAZ license issuer does not supervise FortuneJack and is not willing to take responsibility for scammed customers!
https://archive.is/M7cbh#selection-519.4-519.15
Made on: 05:39:46 PM

Quote
bitcasino.io claims to operate under the 1668/JAZ license!

Game Protect currently handles several cases where casinos claiming to operate under the 1668/JAZ license scammed its customers!

The 1668/JAZ license issuer does not supervise bitcasino.io and is not willing to take responsibility for scammed customers!
https://archive.is/M7cbh#selection-601.4-601.15
Made on: 05:38:22 PM (1 minute 24 seconds gap)

Quote
Sportsbet.io claims to operate under the 1668/JAZ license!

Game Protect currently handles several cases where casinos claiming to operate under the 1668/JAZ license scammed its customers!

The 1668/JAZ license issuer does not supervise sportsbet.io and is not willing to take responsibility for scammed customers!
https://archive.is/M7cbh#selection-683.4-683.15
Made on: 05:36:57 PM (1 minute 25 seconds gap)

Quote
Duckdice.io claims to operate under the 8048/JAZ license!

Game Protect currently handles several cases where casinos claiming to operate under the 8048/JAZ license scammed its customers!

The 8048/JAZ license issuer does not supervise duckdice.io and is not willing to take responsibility for scammed customers!
https://archive.is/M7cbh#selection-765.4-765.15
Made on: 05:36:21 PM (36 seconds gap)

Quote
Primedice.com claims to operate under the 1668/JAZ license!

Game Protect currently handles several cases where casinos claiming to operate under the 1668/JAZ license scammed its customers!

The 1668/JAZ license issuer does not supervise primedice.com and is not willing to take responsibility for scammed customers!
https://archive.is/M7cbh#selection-847.4-847.15
Made on: 05:34:02 PM (2 minutes 19 seconds gap)

Quote
stake.com claims to operate under the 1668/JAZ license!

Game Protect currently handles several cases where casinos claiming to operate under the 1668/JAZ license scammed its customers!

The 1668/JAZ license issuer does not supervise stake.com and is not willing to take responsibility for scammed customers!
https://archive.is/M7cbh#selection-929.4-929.15
Made on: 05:33:17 PM (1 minute 15 seconds gap)

There is another post (https://archive.is/M7cbh#selection-234.15-1021.29) in between but let's ignore it.

Quote
WinRate claims to operate under the 1668/JAZ license!

Game Protect currently handles several cases where casinos claiming to operate under the 1668/JAZ license scammed its customers!

The 1668/JAZ license issuer does not supervise WinRate and is not willing to take responsibility for scammed customers!
https://archive.is/M7cbh#selection-1085.4-1085.15
Made on: 05:30:16 PM (3 minutes 1 second gap)

Edit:
All reported with this comment.
Code:
Bannable offence? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5204415.msg53233946#msg53233946


Title: Re: Burst spamming! 8 post in less than 10 minutes.
Post by: suchmoon on December 01, 2019, 06:32:48 PM
Same scripted posts except changing the casino name on each. And all in less than 10 minutes, in 8 different topics!
Ban-able offense?

Yeah I noticed that earlier, reported them, again. The ones from yesterday have been deleted so clearly GP knows he's breaking the rules but doesn't give a shit.


Title: Re: Burst spamming! 8 post in less than 10 minutes.
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 01, 2019, 06:39:02 PM
~snip~

Yeah I noticed that earlier, reported them, again. The ones from yesterday have been deleted so clearly GP knows he's breaking the rules but doesn't give a shit.
There are no doubt left about him doing it intentionally but I really do not understand why still he is active in the forum. We have seen users to get banned for lesser offense than this. I know GP does not have any special pass but this is not right either.

Archived after reporting. There were few more same kind of post were posted while I was making my last post. (https://archive.is/UJYfJ)


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: DaveF on December 01, 2019, 11:30:56 PM
I am really starting to think GP has pictures of Theymos with a bunch of under age hookers, that or of him playing golf with Satan.

Other than that I have no idea of why he has not been banned. Between the feedback / trust spam, the bumps, the trolling, etc. just about any one of us would have gotten banned.

-Dave

 


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 02, 2019, 09:32:58 AM
I am really starting to think GP has pictures of Theymos with a bunch of under age hookers, that or of him playing golf with Satan.
This will be a good use of the Bitcoin theymos has to spend :-P
But not with under age hookers please. Obviously 18+

By the way new archive: https://archive.is/cSIj3
All post were deleted from yesterday except first two which is okay I think. It worth to look if he is still active or got banned.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: suchmoon on December 02, 2019, 03:23:35 PM
Quiet today. There is no ban entry in the modlog but let's hope he's been at least temp banned. Keep an eye out for sockpuppets - he doesn't strike me as someone who could stay off the forum for more than 24 hours.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 02, 2019, 09:44:12 PM
Quiet today. There is no ban entry in the modlog but let's hope he's been at least temp banned. Keep an eye out for sockpuppets - he doesn't strike me as someone who could stay off the forum for more than 24 hours.
I see he was online today but no post which is unusual I guess for user like GP. Do we have any news? :-D

https://i.imgur.com/a1dIN4u.png


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: suchmoon on December 02, 2019, 10:48:32 PM
I see he was online today but no post which is unusual I guess for user like GP. Do we have any news? :-D

Being active and not posting very likely means a ban, at least in the case of GP who we know couldn't possibly resist trolling. He can still log in if he's banned, and last active timestamp would get updated.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: FIFA worldcup on December 03, 2019, 02:41:09 PM
I see he was online today but no post which is unusual I guess for user like GP. Do we have any news? :-D

Being active and not posting very likely means a ban, at least in the case of GP who we know couldn't possibly resist trolling. He can still log in if he's banned, and last active timestamp would get updated.

In case he makes a new account and start trolling, that will be a ban evasion leading to permanent ban. The options are limited for GP.

Is there any way we can know for how long is the ban ?


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 03, 2019, 06:43:46 PM
~snip~

Being active and not posting very likely means a ban, at least in the case of GP who we know couldn't possibly resist trolling. He can still log in if he's banned, and last active timestamp would get updated.
Almost 48 hours and GP has not post anything yet which could mean only one thing. Make a wild guess :-P

~snip~

Is there any way we can know for how long is the ban ?
I hope someone knows the way.
bpip (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=game-protect) does not show anything. I think LoyceV can figure it out.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: friends1980 on December 03, 2019, 06:58:22 PM
Well, just report the post. I don't understand why they keep spamming the trust page as there is not any effect on the trust score or anything, just wasting time. If they think that this is the way to change the opinion to someone, they miserably failed. If this is a way to piss off the DTs, it didn't work either. Seem it's hard for them to give up.

I do but his time I wanted to have some conversation and wanted to get the attention of the mods (again). He is breaking rules which is not top secret and also harming the community but yet I never seen any ban to apply against him.

Talking about the trust page things, I think he enjoys it and lately no one cares at all. But his constant trolling is pathetic. I have him in my ignore list but still I see him and his posts lol
Ironic though.

As I mentioned before, the giant problem with reporting these kinds of posts, is that several mods clean up the forums, without (necessarily) seeing the cohesion or systematics between posts of one and the same person.

After cleaning up those reported posts, this poster seems clean like a virgin again. So the pervert consequence of posting reporting (some types of) spam/non-allowed posts, is that you're actually helping them instead of punishing them.


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: AB de Royse777 on December 04, 2019, 11:57:46 AM
There we have it!
User game-protect is currently banned. Temporarily or not can say only global moderators.
Let's take a break until he comes back and I think until then the mods will have very lazy time around :-P


Title: Re: Bumps ..... are limited to once per 24 hours
Post by: TwitchySeal on December 05, 2019, 08:18:50 PM
There we have it!
User game-protect is currently banned. Temporarily or not can say only global moderators.
Let's take a break until he comes back and I think until then the mods will have very lazy time around :-P

Woohoo.

Last weekend I reported over 100 of GPs posts.  (figured out a pretty efficient way of doing it without mouse)  I think I got 2 bad reports and the rest seem to have been deleted.

One of them involved Theymos' real name and a suggestion for HumanRightsFoundation to call the FBI to get him arrested.  I don't know how we all missed that, it was from October.  I only found it because one of the 5 times GP sent merit was to the OP of the thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194168.msg52806302#msg52806302)

*pats self on back*