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I just saw an open member slot on this bounty paid in BTC : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2519710.0. As I am a member rank, I tried to apply there. But I was surprised that not only Full Member and Senior Member, Hero and Legendary members also applied for that Member slot. Guys, do you think something like this normal?

For me, it doesn't really make sense. The ideal condition must be: a member slot is for member ranks. Member ranks above (Full-Legendary) must realize that the slot is not for them.  8)

From what i saw that is pretty much  standard practice in BTC signature campaigns, esecially those that are paying better. While it may seem unfair to some, you have to understand those that are paying for  campaigns- they simply want max exposure for their money, and some high rank member with more visible signature  and better status on the forum might bring them that.

By the way , there are currently 3 BTC signature campaigns that are accepting Member rank(+ Bustadice), you might wanna think about applying to those in case your Bustadice application doesn't go through.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0

It's absolutely normal and it depends on the manager who he will accept or deny. When a good paying campaign have open slot , users don't mind to give away their high rank position.
What strikes me here is that, being with the community from last 2017, you have not much idea about the culture. May be you don't care much about the culture here?

Yes, as long as it is not stated in the campaign rules that higher ranked members aren't allowed.

This issue has also been raised in that same topic before

I guess it's only natural or common sense to accept a higher rank member with good quality posts for a lower pay rate. More space for signature and probably more "reputable".

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Next time you have a question like this about certain campaigns, you should just ask on their main thread and not create a separate topic unless that thread has been locked.

Perfectly normal and has happened so many times before. Even the previous available spot for Member rank in Bustadice campaign was filled by a Sr. Member.

Yeah, I know about it. Bounty managers will consider the reputation and the quality of their posts. And those who have better are many from higher ranks.

Thank you so much bro for that information. Sure, I will take a look at them immediately.

Separated topic? Bustadice is just an example. My question above is not only addressed to that campaign. Please read carefully what I wrote above!

Don'care? If I don't care, I won't make this thread. And just forgot everything.

Yeah, I agree that everything will depend on the bounty managers whether to accept or deny.

My point is, you could have just asked why higher rank members are applying in bustadice thread since it is the campaign in question like what other members did (see the example in my first comment).

Not really sure that's why I asked the question to others. I think there is no problem with asking a question to others, right?
For me, to make sure the answer is better than guessing. Thanks for your attention, bro. Have a nice day!

Yes, that is normal and every campaign managers have their own decisions and perspective way in selecting participants.
If there is no potential member rank applicant's who applied, managers choose those higher rank than choosing member rank to fill the slot but inactive and probably have spam post.

Let the managers be a manager and I think there is no problem with that as long as the manager's choosing the right one and it is deserving of the slot. (active, reputable, good and regular poster members are deserving to accept).

Probably if you are one of the managers here, you will understand.

Understood. Yes, they have their own rules and they must know what is better for their campaigns. I can understand that way, thanks for reminding me.

If a person is ready to work for lower payment, then why not apply for a "job" ?

You can try doing opposite - if your know that there are no free slots of your rank, there are free spots of higher rank and no one applies for them - try asking BM to take their place, but receive payment as a member :)

If I'm a CM, I'd sure as hell hire a Legendary that requests for a Member slot over a Member asking for the same thing any day.

Who doesn't like cheaper labor? :D

Its a normal thing bro ,it depends on the manager who will be the deserving member to complete the participants. Sometimes you should be fast so that you will be reviewed by the manager.

Op is referring one of yahoo62278 campaign, I have seen higher rank users apply there. But they are not preventing you from apply there. I have seen previously yahoo62278 pick appropriate rank if there is quality poster in required rank. So if you are a high quality poster you should not worry. Since it's a high payment campaign that's why even higher rank users applying there and it's not against forum rules or campaign rules.

I also face same issue on my campaign, but I pick quality poster even this is appropriate or higher rank. I won't accept Legendary as a member pay rate if the poster isn't a good poster.

So don't worry about who are applying there. Managers will not give them priority just for their rank if they are spammer.

From what I've observed on the forum, campaign managers try their best to fill open slots with those on the appropriate ranks, and I think they give more considerations to those applying for a slot on the appropriate rank needed.

But many times they may be left with no choice when those applying with the correct ranks are not good posters and are not qualified to fill the position, so they don't start spamming when the get into the campaign, the only wise thing they can do is to fill the positions with higher ranked members, not with lower ranked members, for example a full member cannot fill a senior member spot.

So do not complain, if you do not want a higher ranked member to fill slots for your rank on a campaign, improve on your post quality.

True. Money is like sugar, normal people must be interested. As long as they have the possibility to join, they won't miss a chance to apply.

A wise decision. I like how you decide the solution, and I am pretty sure that yahoo62278 also does the same thing.

Okay, manager. Now, I understand what will be the priority.

I'm so glad to see your comment on my thread. Thank you so much.  :)

Good advice. It seems like the OP has understood enough about that question.

I know you are a manager, and every campaign manager has the capacity to judge who is suitable to fill the empty slots in the campaign he manages and even accept Legendaries to fill slot members, and that is normal.

But will the manager also consider accepting lower ranking members who are good postmakers if there is a higher ranking slot that is empty?

Yes. Now, it is clear enough. I have read all replies and try to understand.  

It doesn't make sense, buddy. Lower ranks cannot fulfill the requirement of the ranks that are needed. For example, a campaign needs 5x Full members, 5x Sr members, and 5x Hero/Legend members. The bounty manager mustn't consider member ranks or Junior members since it is clearly seen full members above. And I believe that will be no member or junior ranks to apply there.

I don't see anything wrong on that, in fact I myself applied for full member slot even though I am already a senior member and there are hero and legendary that also applies for lower rank, it's the manager's discretion if they will accept you or not, bounty manager looks for good posters regardless of the rank.

Its depend on rank, only Hero and Legendary ranks signature code is same. So for other rank you can't wear signature if it's for higher ranks from your current rank. But sometimes managers could adjust spot accordingly. For example when I had joined Bitsler, there was only open Legendary spot. So unfortunately my ranks were Hero. But after sometimes manager announced if there is no quality Legendary member then he might pick Hero member as well (obviously pay rate different). So I applied there (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1589966.msg52472919#msg52472919)  and get accepted. But you can't expect Legendary rate for that.

On the other hand, before few days there was 2 full member open spot on my campaign. But unfortunately I didn't find good participants. So what I did,I closed full member spot and open 1 Sr. Member spot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207467.msg53344815#msg53344815) instead. And I accept a Hero member as a Sr. Member pay rate since there were no enough quality posters from Sr. Member. And I inform the company and they allow me to do it.

You can't expect high pay rate ranks from your current rate. But you may apply for low rank payments. Applying for higher ranks from your current ranks isn't appropriate unless manager announce new spot.

Companies run their promotions (one of theirs) in the forum through signature campaign that might give them some benefits. To do this and to get as much benefits as possible, they have to hire good managers to increase benefits per capital they readily spend for campaign.

In turn of managers, they have all rights to do anything in their campaigns, with campaigns' local rules in order to maximize benefits for companies hire them as long as their local rules don't break unofficial forum rules.

Usually, each campaign have fixed slots for some ranks but it is not abnormal to see some higher rank users apply for lower ranks in some campaigns. Once again, managers have rights to decide which things to do for companies, and to accept or reject applications.

To sum up, higher rank users can apply for lower rank slots if managers open for such applications but lower rank users can not apply for higher rank slots, probably except when they are very closely to the day of ranking up (but I have never seen such reserved slots for potential next ranks like that, I just imagine about that situation).

Thanks for responding and explaining the details of my question, and now it seems not only that I will understand it because there are more members with lower ranks who will also understand the rules that apply to signature campaigns when reading your explanations.
The point is:

I saw that too. It's weird. I think those members if accepted should have "sold my signature for cheap" as their avatar text :D

But it's business as any other. If the manager thinks they're getting a good deal they'll take it, why not. Not all high-rank members who apply for a pay cut like that are great posters so I think a good Member poster still has a chance there.

It's normal. At the end of day, it's just competition my friend. Bustadice is a long term signature campaign that pays fairly well so even higher ranked members would try to apply at any given opportunity.

I see you got accepted, i hope you are happy now  :D
Good luck

Perfectly true. Lower ranks cannot wear the signature codes for higher rank, except Hero and Legend. It will be a problem if lower ranks are accepted for that spot.

However, this seems to rarely happen. Nowadays, we have many active Hero and Legendary ranks who have already joined signature campaigns regularly.
Anyway, that was a good decision by the BM, you were lucky to be accepted there, sir. And if you have the same case later, your experience may be one of the considerations. :)  

Sure. It's an honor for me. Thanks bro  :)

In fact, I think it is quite the opposite, bustadice is one of the campaigns with the highest payment per rank, if you make a comparison with the list of Mitchell (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0) you will realize that even if you are accepted for the rank of member you receive the same payment as being a Sr.member in other campaigns.

Overview of Bitcointalk Signature-Ad Campaigns [Last update: 09-Dec-2019]  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615953.0)

I think if you apply for a slot in the Bitcoin talk forum there are full members or member rank But it depends entirely on the manager who will take over and who not. This is because they usually choose the high-ranking bun for the slot So be more active in the forum and post better quality.