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Title: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: JeotQ on March 12, 2020, 08:00:50 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: bassbity on March 12, 2020, 08:13:05 AM
Tokoin and Tachyon have investors in it so that the coin is valuable when it is launched on the exchange because the hunter cannot be blamed for his disposal, he knows which coins are good for holding from the bounty.
While other projects have a token destruction after being released or dumped and it is always blamed because hunters sell simultaneously, even though I don't think it's the hunter's fault because hunters can judge which coin is the best.


Here I hope SPYCE can survive like Tokoin and Tachyon which have large volumes on the exchange.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Novatech8 on March 12, 2020, 08:34:09 AM
Those projects you mentioned have high demand from investors that's why they are doing very well, I guess it's all about the use case of a project, that is the only thing that will determine it's demand rate, the best way to go now as a bounty Hunter is no promote projects that have a very good use case thus will unleash huge demand


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Little Mouse on March 12, 2020, 08:34:46 AM
It is very simple. If a project has some investors, in other words, buyers in the marketplace, the price will survive. Most of the projects nowadays lack of investors because of low-quality projects and that is why those projects can not survive. However, do not forget that a project can be easily manipulated and most of the projects owner keep doing that.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Novatech8 on March 12, 2020, 08:41:15 AM
Too many repetitive projects in crypto space today, tokoin and tachyon are very different, they have real use case and investors have huge interest in them so it's sure they will survive, low quality projects will never live long in today's market


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Rodeo02 on March 12, 2020, 08:52:25 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
no, because they dont want to set a buy orders and support thier coins until the price will be stable. They dont want to use any money they raised to set a buy orders so it will not be affected by the bounty dumpers.

And this is the reasons of more project failed.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: pakhitheboss on March 12, 2020, 09:02:27 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

It all depends on the project, team and the investors. Hunters do not come anywhere near when you are talking about the performance of a project. Sometimes good project do get dump because of the whales. It has been a long time now that I have seen any good project. The last bounty that I participated was Atomic Wallet and I did make good money out of it.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: OrangeII on March 12, 2020, 09:33:44 AM
each project has different potential, I think tychoon and tokoin are good projects that can overcome this problem. most projects will sometimes leave their jobs if their goals have been achieved. The point is a good project will not let the tokens or products they have painstakingly made have a bad price on the market or even have no price. yeah, projet who doesn't think about it is a bad project in my opinion.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: VDraci on March 12, 2020, 09:38:05 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

It all depends on the project, team and the investors. Hunters do not come anywhere near when you are talking about the performance of a project. Sometimes good project do get dump because of the whales. It has been a long time now that I have seen any good project. The last bounty that I participated was Atomic Wallet and I did make good money out of it.
How did you get paid from this atomic wallet bounty? Many don't get paid, every promotion I did for that project I got no single penny from the team, anyways the quality of a project will always determine it's future, bounty hunters aren't to be blame here


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Anonylz on March 12, 2020, 09:52:44 AM
Tokoin and Tachyon have investors in it so that the coin is valuable when it is launched on the exchange because the hunter cannot be blamed for his disposal, he knows which coins are good for holding from the bounty.
While other projects have a token destruction after being released or dumped and it is always blamed because hunters sell simultaneously, even though I don't think it's the hunter's fault because hunters can judge which coin is the best.


Here I hope SPYCE can survive like Tokoin and Tachyon which have large volumes on the exchange.

I don't know much about Tokoin because i did not take part in the campaign, regarding Tachyon protocol the entire bounty pool is not enough to create any serious dump especially from bounty hunters, because even when lots of hunters sold after distribution, the price kept increasing before correction, plus the volume on bithumb was strong enough to sustain the price,
A sell off from hunters can only cause effect on a price if:-
-the amount given for the bounty reward is extremely high (which rarely happens)
-there is little or no volume to sustain the price during the sell
but if none of the above is present, it is very hard to say hunters are the reason why price dump.
And as for SPYCE, i think they will be fine because participants are limited to each campaign, so the fear of hunters dumping has been eliminated.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: OasisDre on March 12, 2020, 10:09:20 AM
I missed tokoin and Tachyon bounties because the allocation seem very low but later I find out that they surge after trading starts, only quality projects are capable to do that and I missed out, since then even if bounty allocation Worth only 10,000usd I will still promote


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Reid on March 12, 2020, 10:13:13 AM
No they are not supposed to be blame to. But investors are using that excuse just so they could pin it to someone else or something else.

They don't want to be the one to be blamed at but surely they are.
If you buy tokens at Pre-ICO you will get lots of the shares with just thousands of dollars.
It is different with bounty hunters. They are provided only with a percentage of the whole amount of token which is mostly 1 or 2 percent of it.
Imagine just how low is that and they will all share it.
Some of them stick to keeping it for the long run and some don't.
So if you calculate it, maybe just 50 percent of the whole bounty will be sold which is .5% of the whole. Some of the hunters also fell in love with it and will buy.

Bad marketing and bad investors. That is how I see on why they fall.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Raflesia on March 12, 2020, 10:15:08 AM
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And as for SPYCE, i think they will be fine because participants are limited to each campaign, so the fear of hunters dumping has been eliminated.

That is what I believe in the SPYCE project because it has a participant limit so there will not be so much dumping, I participated in a signature campaign and believe this token will have a good impact on the market, and tomorrow SPYCE will be listed on Probit.
And usually SPYCY / KRW pairs will always impact well with large volumes.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Winscosinally on March 12, 2020, 10:23:24 AM
Tokoin and Tachyon have investors in it so that the coin is valuable when it is launched on the exchange because the hunter cannot be blamed for his disposal, he knows which coins are good for holding from the bounty.
While other projects have a token destruction after being released or dumped and it is always blamed because hunters sell simultaneously, even though I don't think it's the hunter's fault because hunters can judge which coin is the best.


Here I hope SPYCE can survive like Tokoin and Tachyon which have large volumes on the exchange.

I don't know much about Tokoin because i did not take part in the campaign, regarding Tachyon protocol the entire bounty pool is not enough to create any serious dump especially from bounty hunters, because even when lots of hunters sold after distribution, the price kept increasing before correction, plus the volume on bithumb was strong enough to sustain the price,
A sell off from hunters can only cause effect on a price if:-
-the amount given for the bounty reward is extremely high (which rarely happens)
-there is little or no volume to sustain the price during the sell
but if none of the above is present, it is very hard to say hunters are the reason why price dump.
And as for SPYCE, i think they will be fine because participants are limited to each campaign, so the fear of hunters dumping has been eliminated.
Yes you are right, every bounties that have fixed rated already eliminate the wrath of dumps from bounty hunters but this doesn't mean that all bounties that used fixed reward will be good or successful in the end, quality matters


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: MWesterweele on March 12, 2020, 10:39:12 AM
Tokoin and Tachyon have investors in it so that the coin is valuable when it is launched on the exchange because the hunter cannot be blamed for his disposal, he knows which coins are good for holding from the bounty.
While other projects have a token destruction after being released or dumped and it is always blamed because hunters sell simultaneously, even though I don't think it's the hunter's fault because hunters can judge which coin is the best.


Here I hope SPYCE can survive like Tokoin and Tachyon which have large volumes on the exchange.

I don't know much about Tokoin because i did not take part in the campaign, regarding Tachyon protocol the entire bounty pool is not enough to create any serious dump especially from bounty hunters, because even when lots of hunters sold after distribution, the price kept increasing before correction, plus the volume on bithumb was strong enough to sustain the price,
A sell off from hunters can only cause effect on a price if:-
-the amount given for the bounty reward is extremely high (which rarely happens)
-there is little or no volume to sustain the price during the sell
but if none of the above is present, it is very hard to say hunters are the reason why price dump.
And as for SPYCE, i think they will be fine because participants are limited to each campaign, so the fear of hunters dumping has been eliminated.
Yes you are right, every bounties that have fixed rated already eliminate the wrath of dumps from bounty hunters but this doesn't mean that all bounties that used fixed reward will be good or successful in the end, quality matters
I agree, we should know the project better to avoid encounter worthless bounty that might cause a bad result. it's better to study the project first before participate to it through checking their project, if it seem good for you then take that opportunity to join but if you have uneasy feeling from it then quit and find another project. I guess its better to follow your instincts sometimes because it can lead you to avoid or lessen to be failed.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: mamesso on March 12, 2020, 10:51:47 AM
Potential projects that will continue to improve the quality of their coins so they continue to circulate in the market, besides, they have a reliable marketing team, so their coins have high demand.
Not all projects have good potential, some failed to reach the target, so that the bounty hunter is at a disadvantage, because they could not enjoy the fruits of their labor when promoting the project.




Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ukon on March 12, 2020, 10:58:36 AM
I agree, we should know the project better to avoid encounter worthless bounty that might cause a bad result. it's better to study the project first before participate to it through checking their project, if it seem good for you then take that opportunity to join but if you have uneasy feeling from it then quit and find another project. I guess its better to follow your instincts sometimes because it can lead you to avoid or lessen to be failed.
It is true that we have to see the project or study the project so that it does not get lost in failure at the end, sometimes the project looks interesting and can even fail if we do not study it, this is very important for us as hunters because instincts like this are rarely done by most of the participants now only see large allocations even though they could all be bullshit.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: minairia3 on March 12, 2020, 11:29:27 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Nope. Not really, since tokoin still hasnt paid in full their participants. I saw their announcement that they will pay their hunter for 12months time duration. Many participants have expressed their disaapoinment with them. How come they did an awful unfair process for them just because they are afraid to see their token failed.

In the case of tachyon I saw they fully paid all their participants which is a good move and seeing the project doesnt dump means their platform really backed up by both investors and hunters.

But some projects would probably as you explained OP.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: fuer44 on March 12, 2020, 11:47:52 AM
in short is, the token will be successful or not after launch will depend on the liquidity of the token. and the token liquidity will depend on the project itself. if the project is good, then it is likely that the liquidity of the token is also good and it will greatly affect the token trading volume so that it can survive and continue to increase. if it has no liquidity at all, then the token will disappear after launch and that is a fact that has been happening all this time.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: rodskee on March 12, 2020, 12:04:55 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
or maybe they are being backed up by whales thats why after the Hunters dumping still the price manage to grow because there
 are still investors that being targeted to enter so they will become the victim?
or i may be wrong because there are
still other Bounty project that gains until now.
i think we can have still chance
 to Find good bounty but majority of them are only here to make profit and make victims.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: metenjean on March 12, 2020, 01:23:39 PM
Bad project stand from with fake team and owner than become bad moment for get good result, many project always use not correct information about their team and looks not transparent about their company.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: cytpoway121 on March 12, 2020, 01:25:23 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

I think this is dependent on the project. Tachyon did well with their product and trade preparation, they also had a limited amount of bounty hunters and that ensured the sanity in the token trade.

Good projects can actually dump either hunters sell or not.



Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ballerin and giroud on March 12, 2020, 01:31:40 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
Are they use the strategy to limited the bounty hunter sell the token? I have joined one bounty campaign ( I will not call the name) that I should hold the coin for one year and until now the coin price has been increasing. I have got the coin for $50 when the distribution came and I hold them until now and the coin price has increasing and now its value has touched $600. I didn't know what will happen later when they are allowed to sell the coin because it has reached one year. I just guessed that the tokoin has done it and make the price raising although the distribution for bounty hunter has done.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ife2020 on March 12, 2020, 01:47:26 PM
In my own opinion, I do not think it works that way.
why do I say that?? We have seen bad projects excel and have better value in this crypto space. And I am sure you have noticed too.

Does a project being bad necessarily mean the token won't be of good value? I greatly doubt so.
there are more factors leading to better results than just bad projects


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: wingfield_crypto on March 12, 2020, 03:03:41 PM
    A bounty hunter is constantly informed about the chosen project. Thus, if he realizes that the project to which he is enrolled does not rise to the level of expectations, he must make a decision. Many hunters receive their coins from campaigns, but they sell them quickly, because they realize that the project will die, and their work should not be in vain.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: slashz9 on March 12, 2020, 04:28:20 PM
yes maybe actually so however the amount of prizes distributed to hunters is only a few percent and of course it will not have an impact on the price of tokens in the long run, it will probably decrease in the beginning because hunters sell all their coins.
but it will improve if indeed investors survive and do not sell their coins all, in a short time.
because there are some investors who only want profits at the beginning, and do not care at all whether the project is good or not.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: btcdie on March 12, 2020, 05:06:25 PM
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hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
Yaps, there is no need to blame Bounty Hunter for making coins / tokens worthless. while the project has a positive community or support, products tend to be in demand so supply demand continues to grow so prices are stable and go up. hunters are also entitled to get more profit, if the project is potential I am sure bounty hunters will not dump coins. keep in mind, the allocation for bounties is only around 0.1% - 5% of the total supply, so if a dump does not always blame the bounty hunter, the mastermind behind the event is the investor if they are in doubt and have no interest in the project.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: oscarftw on March 12, 2020, 05:17:13 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
Only bounty hunters can't dump any good project price. Tokoin and Tachyon  protocol didn't distribute huge rewards to bounty hunters. For low volume good project good project price could dump. Bcnex exchange was good project but this exchange is going to scam, bounty didn't distribute yet. Only team members and market situation is behind everything.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: robelneo on March 12, 2020, 05:40:39 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Good trees only bear good fruits and no other way around, investors will invest in projects if they see the potential on it but if after crowdfunding and developers are very slow in developing the platform and getting the project in good and popular exchange, they will dump the coin, one example is Adab, there are many FUNDS on their ongoing crowdfunding but investors still go on, but after sensing that developers are very slow, they immediately dump even at a loss.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Shallow on March 12, 2020, 09:09:47 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

It is as simple as that; when a project is good it will have good investors who will keep buying and using the services offered because they know the team will keep improving to better the platform, therefore even if bounty or airdrop payments are made the token price won't dump badly. And also, the team within a good project focuses more on how to serve it's users well. On the other hand, when a project is all about promises with nothing to show for, they will have little or no investors thus the project tends to suffer the most especially when they pay for bounty and airdrop, in this case, the blame game will start on how hunters dumped the price. In addition, the team won't bother about development instead comes up with excuses why there is delay and before you know it, the project will become worst each day from which the team might start looking for a way to exit. Thus your title is right, bad projects equals bad results and vice versa.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: gundala on March 12, 2020, 09:42:16 PM
I also joined Tachyon and Tokoin, both of which were good quality projects, so they could maintain the price even though they paid the bounty hunter fairly. This is proof that dumps are not entirely caused by bounty hunters. Project quality, marketing strategies, good products, are the combinations that determine the success of the project and the bounty campaign. Just imagine how much is the allocation for bounty hunter rewards? mostly only 1-2%, if even a small value can have an adverse effect on the price of the coin or token, you can imagine what the quality is like. Stop blaming each other, market conditions often make all plans not achieved.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: kawetsriyanto on March 12, 2020, 09:57:05 PM
why are other bounties getting ruined after launch?
There are many factors to make it happens. Bad management or strategy from the project can be one of the factors. If they choose bad exchanges to list their tokens, it probably makes less interest from investors. Then, the price may be decreasing. Also, if the projects cannot show good progress related to their MVP. It can trigger a decrease in people's trust, so people become not interested anymore to buy the tokens. 


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Lordhermes on March 12, 2020, 10:30:29 PM
From my point of view,, projects that's gets listed on high volmes and volatility exchanges gets better and keeps on rising if bounty hunters sells off their reward. Tokoin was listed on kucoin exchange which is among the most reputable exchange in cryptocurrency,, the same applied to Tachyon protocol as was listed on Bithump global which is also a high volume and volatility exchange. So I think for a project to resist dumped,, such project should be listed on high liquidity exchange like binance, huobi, kucoin, IMO and more.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Perfect35 on March 12, 2020, 10:36:22 PM
Most of the projects that were able to maintain a good price system and progressive growth on the exchange had already planned what to do. Those who did not plan were the ones experiencing setback. the few projects mentioned have good experience and know-how to back up their listed tokens on the exchange.
Apart from having enough investors, if the project team is so greedy and stingy and not ready to spend, the resultant effect will be that the Ico price might not be achievable or that it dumps unnecessarily at the initial stage.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Twinkledoe on March 12, 2020, 10:39:21 PM
why are other bounties getting ruined after launch?
There are many factors to make it happens. Bad management or strategy from the project can be one of the factors. If they choose bad exchanges to list their tokens, it probably makes less interest from investors. Then, the price may be decreasing. Also, if the projects cannot show good progress related to their MVP. It can trigger a decrease in people's trust, so people become not interested anymore to buy the tokens.  

But they should not blame those bounty hunters about the continuous decline of price. Because if they are strong enough, they can always reverse the downward trend after the hunters sell their share. Remember, they are only allotting very small portion to these hunters, so it should not have big impact on their market performance. It is more on the project's development, if the investors see that it is already hopeless, they will share whatever they have to recover their losses.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Kiefner on March 12, 2020, 11:15:30 PM
Bounty hunters should not influence the project. If the project does not show any results and their coin has fallen in value, it is the fault of the developers only.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: BitTraderCute on March 12, 2020, 11:39:57 PM
Bounty hunters should not influence the project. If the project does not show any results and their coin has fallen in value, it is the fault of the developers only.
but often bounty hunter blamed by some investors eventhough some hunter also use their money to investing. some developers have wrong distribution and discount management to attract investor. they have huge discount to whales and make it easy to dumped. dev team didnt deliver their MVP well so investors keep complaining,


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: swivel1983@gmail.com on March 12, 2020, 11:44:29 PM
Many projects blame their failures on bounty hunters and investors. But this is a big misconception. People often want to blame everyone else for their failures, but not themselves.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: TanakabZX on March 13, 2020, 02:28:16 PM
If a project is good enough getting large trading volume won't be a problem at all, we have too many useless coins from developers this days and I think it's better to safe your energy, don't just go out there and promote any project, dyor very well


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: semobo on March 13, 2020, 04:40:08 PM
That is why they have been called as shit coins,once they lost their values all the blame will be on bounty hunters because they have no one else to be blamed without facing any issues.Anyway its hard to find a good in 2020 and I hope no potential project will be released until the global economy comes to the older level.Until that stay away from promoting this shits.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Saisher on March 13, 2020, 04:55:06 PM
Many projects blame their failures on bounty hunters and investors. But this is a big misconception. People often want to blame everyone else for their failures, but not themselves.

In my experienced as a long time bounty hunters all blames should be on the developers, they are the one running with the money, they are the one who do not want to complete their roadmap and they are the one who is in charge of getting their coin in exchanges, investors and bounty hunters will not dump if they see development.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: isaac_clarke22 on March 13, 2020, 05:32:33 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
You already answered your own question. There are just massive dumps happening and that's why they don't last for 1 night. Sometimes the project becomes bad just because how the participants of certain bounties treat the reward they got. Let's accept that many will just aim for the quick profit, and they'll just sell and sell whenever they want. Finding good projects is quite hard these. You might end up a legitimate project, but not worth the price of yor work.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Utoy101 on March 13, 2020, 07:55:06 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
no, because they dont want to set a buy orders and support thier coins until the price will be stable. They dont want to use any money they raised to set a buy orders so it will not be affected by the bounty dumpers.

And this is the reasons of more project failed.

You nailed it all, tokoin was able to survive dump from both  investors and hunters because they planned out a well buy back strategy, the buy back was able to prevent dumb not just from investors and hunters but also from the general market dip that fellow suits then. The token price dump woefully few months later when they stop buying back tokens. Bottom line is, as a project you have to protect your token price witg frequent buy back plan, no investor buy coins/token that is doing woefully on exchange


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Ezravdb on March 13, 2020, 08:29:31 PM
Tokoin and Tachyon have investors in it so that the coin is valuable when it is launched on the exchange because the hunter cannot be blamed for his disposal, he knows which coins are good for holding from the bounty.
While other projects have a token destruction after being released or dumped and it is always blamed because hunters sell simultaneously, even though I don't think it's the hunter's fault because hunters can judge which coin is the best.


Here I hope SPYCE can survive like Tokoin and Tachyon which have large volumes on the exchange.
All depends on the development and strategies adopted by the team to convince bounty hunters or investors to hold on longer. Tachyon has a great team and loyal investors coupled with the support of his partners so that when entering the IPX exchange many traders are interested in buying. Today Spyce has been listing Probit but many Spyce tokens have been order at lower


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Crypto5060 on March 13, 2020, 08:37:12 PM
It has become stale, the occasional story of blaming bounty hunters for token dump. If a project is built with promising tech, people will queue to buy it but if there's no demand it will definitely dump irrespective of who sells.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: dainoran on March 13, 2020, 09:14:00 PM
bad projects due to lack of investor interest and they impose projects. different from successful projects because they complete the concepts they have so that investors are confident about projects and well-scheduled projects.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: btcholder on March 15, 2020, 12:30:28 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Of course not. They always blame hunters because they don't know about how to control bad things in crypto market. Huge dump by bounty hunters or greedy investors is not new thing but if a project not capable to control those kinda situation then probable they are not in the right place. A good project always holds ability to take any kinda bad situation. Other side bad projects just shows excuses which made them failure.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: fortunecrypto on March 15, 2020, 12:56:52 AM
That is why they have been called as shit coins,once they lost their values all the blame will be on bounty hunters because they have no one else to be blamed without facing any issues.Anyway its hard to find a good in 2020 and I hope no potential project will be released until the global economy comes to the older level.Until that stay away from promoting this shits.

People will not invest in ICO anymore but there are some good projects coming out that are not ICO based and these are mining based like IDENA and RING, it will take some time some time before the market recover and investors who will be buying back will prefer to buy coins that are already in the top instead of new coins so project like Emirex will likely expend their IEO indefinitely and so are other projects that do crowdfunding.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: gaston castano on March 15, 2020, 06:51:30 AM
yes some projects do not have a roadmap, a clear development their main goal is to register in the market and collect ico compilation funds, discussing many projects that are directly down in value or suddenly disappear.
the example you mentioned above is proof that hunters only cause a temporary effect on the value of their coins.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: yanto@1977 on March 15, 2020, 07:07:32 AM
Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

I think dump and pump is because buyer and seller activity for saving and selling, no one can't control it. Good project give development and value result. They will try built trust use their program and services that fit with project idea. Giving secure platform with profit is what users what. Pump and dump is about trust, sometimes developer need to dump to analyze their users so dump not always bad.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: bonyaserg on March 15, 2020, 07:25:09 AM
Personally, I think that projects are currently very unstable. And all the bounty hunters are constantly in search of the best projects. And the market has a large number of useless projects that are simply not needed and most often these projects turn out to be scam. And if it turns out to get rewards from the project, then immediately the price of the token becomes so low that to sell it becomes much more expensive for the user since no one needs the token. And accordingly, if the token is in demand, then the price of the token will be stable, which will always bring profit.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Stanlo on March 15, 2020, 07:25:18 AM
It's a big shame for project teams to blame bounty hunters for drop value of their own token, they build a stupid use case that's why price drop in the first place, no demand no high liquidity


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: thisnewcoin on March 15, 2020, 08:59:59 AM
It is very simple. If a project has some investors, in other words, buyers in the marketplace, the price will survive. Most of the projects nowadays lack of investors because of low-quality projects and that is why those projects can not survive. However, do not forget that a project can be easily manipulated and most of the projects owner keep doing that.
You are right! Nowadays I don't see a good project in crypto anymore! Most of the projects are manipulated everywhere, like their telegram group, social channels, IEO page everywhere I see manipulated! Almost every project are trapping new investors! It's better to avoid investing in new projects in this dip situation!


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: mirakal on March 15, 2020, 10:27:37 AM
You can't say that all will fail, or course there are some which will succeed despite paying a good bounty reward, but still we can't deny the fact that majority failed. I am not so familiar with the project but the big factor here is the timing of the launch, if its bullish there's a bigger chance but if the market is bearish, only few will succeed, and maybe we can also consider the team behind the project, they have a good program or a business plan that's why they succeeded.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: sangjoewara on March 15, 2020, 10:54:42 AM
It's a big shame for project teams to blame bounty hunters for drop value of their own token, they build a stupid use case that's why price drop in the first place, no demand no high liquidity
Yes, how can they blame the bounty hunters, this is very illogical if we look at it, because the bounty hunters don't hold a lot of tokens and the bounty hunters also don't make tokens for the project, they only have the duty to make promotions on the project, so very illogical to blame.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: aioc on March 15, 2020, 11:58:16 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

That's expected bad developers that bad plan cannot come out with a good plan and project, even if the plan turns out to be good it will not last long because it will be exposed, we have seen so many projects with a great announcement and people think that this is not the best thing until it's exposed, you cannot fool the community who will check the legitimacy of the project.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: masterrex on March 15, 2020, 12:17:30 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
I think the situation in each project is different, in what way we can judge any projects as the bad one or even the good one, are we saying that Tokoin and Tachyon projects are good because after the bounty payment was made still its token price was stable, I think it is a shallow reason, for me the price of any project tokens are still depend on the confidence of its investors. bounty tokens are only a small portion of the total supply so it will not affect much. if the project has huge support from its investors. they will buy those bounty tokens from the bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on March 15, 2020, 12:55:25 PM
During the past couple of years, I have examined hundreds, if not thousands of ICOs. You may not agree, but most of these projects had very good ideas and well defined timelines and business plans. But very few of them were successful upon their listing in the exchanges. That means that the planning phase was not at the fault. The problem always lies with the implementation phase. A project may look very attractive on paper, but the team fails to transfer it to the real world.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Destroyeroff98 on March 15, 2020, 12:59:11 PM
ICO projects are falling due to a lack of advertising. A good bounty campaign is not enough.
Good managers usually take projects where the price does not merge right away.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: totoy4741 on March 15, 2020, 01:34:07 PM
They are good projects with strong back ups from different establish platforms and Team Members and those I things I guess will have an integral part of making a project successful, while some other projects don't really have something or someone they can rely on right from the very start of their ICO or Campaign even those projects that have great vision and ideas they even fail without strong supporting casts.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: thisnewcoin on March 15, 2020, 01:44:22 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Maybe you were the Tokoin VIP bounty participant, that's why you received your payment in full! But you don't know that Tokoin is playing a nasty game with their regular bounty hunters. At first, they planned to distribute the whole reward by four weeks! We accepted that, but after two months of payment, they extended it for more 10 months, so, Tokoin was shit in this case! You can tell about the temtum bounty, they were far better than Tokoin regular bounty!


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: thisnewcoin on March 15, 2020, 02:04:20 PM
ICO projects are falling due to a lack of advertising. A good bounty campaign is not enough.
Good managers usually take projects where the price does not merge right away.

Sorry to say You are absolutely wrong here, mate! ICO projects are failing because people have a mindset that all ICO is a scam, not for lack of advertising! If your project is good, you still can raise money through ICO sale as like Ferrum or recent xx coin! 2018 was the dead year for ICO market, hundreds of ICO project took the money and then scammed! So, normally, people won't invest in ICO anymore!


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: jakelyson on March 15, 2020, 02:20:55 PM
I also noticed that utility tokens do not normally care about the price of their tokens, especially the US-based projects. They cannot make a move to make the price go higher because they will be shut down if they do. If they got dumped during the first few months listed because of bounty hunters, it will be very hard for them to recover. So every utility token I have, I dumped immediately upon listing. They are not bad projects, they are just not geared towards price but development of their projects. It will take years before the token reaches the ICO price.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: mdzahed134 on March 15, 2020, 02:50:44 PM
Tachyon is listed in exchanges many days ago when bounty campaign conducted. Developer made tried made a stable price because they doing everything very systematically. Which bounty reward isn’t over so that hunters didn’t affected in price. Good projects is surviving we saw that Tokoin and Tachyon.               


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Sendi blackspade team on March 15, 2020, 03:10:29 PM
Tachyon is listed in exchanges many days ago when bounty campaign conducted. Developer made tried made a stable price because they doing everything very systematically. Which bounty reward isn’t over so that hunters didn’t affected in price. Good projects is surviving we saw that Tokoin and Tachyon.               
You are right, not all projects currently are all bad. some still pay well and they have well-updated developments. this will be good if it is supported by a strong market situation. we must wait for the best moment to come.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Youghoor on March 15, 2020, 03:50:15 PM
It's very strange how the death of projects are quickly linked to bounty hunters dumping their holdings. Sometimes i ask myself, how much of the tokens were given to hunters in the first place and was it at any bonus? No, so why do you link the death of project to bounty hunters. it's rather the fault of so called investors who dump their tokens right as they are listed and because they bought at a huge bonus they don't care much even if it dumps a little.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Sanugarid on March 15, 2020, 04:16:04 PM
ICO projects are falling due to a lack of advertising. A good bounty campaign is not enough.
Good managers usually take projects where the price does not merge right away.
ICO projects indeed fails due to lack of adverisement wherein as it fails to meet its market cap, the bounty hunters would recieve small amount of profit. As they hold their token and its becomes dead or barely goes high, the ICO would fall apart and end up closing instead of being an official currency.

It's a big shame for project teams to blame bounty hunters for drop value of their own token, they build a stupid use case that's why price drop in the first place, no demand no high liquidity
The value of the token usually rely on how often it is being sold or bought so maybe we can say that bounty hunters have their part on it. Still, the team will be the one to manipulate the price growth as they make their project work on a better performance.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: suryapro on March 15, 2020, 04:22:19 PM
Tokoin and tachyon, are projects that have good selling points, so that hunters who participate in the program will have a large profit. naturally, because hunters are an important factor in introducing the project to the wider community.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: doctor877 on March 15, 2020, 04:23:58 PM
These are good project with high demands , good trading volume, good community, and great idea. That's what is important for a project to survive. Taychoon bounty wasn't much so it shouldn't cause much dip to the price. But tokoin paid very well and later they decided to slash the remaining reward to be paid for a year. It's all about what have mentioned. Good project are not usually affected by hunters dumping token and not or long, they usually receiver quick .


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: hirngespenst on March 15, 2020, 06:39:40 PM
You are right. Investing in a bad project is totally waste of money! That's why investors are looking for a good project, which is very rare nowadays! I am spending my time to research to get a better project, this year Tachyon was a perfect project for investment when it's the price was 0.03$! Tokoin is doing good, so, you are right, bounty hunters are not a problem for any project if your project is good!


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: hirngespenst on March 15, 2020, 07:05:31 PM
Tachyon is listed in exchanges many days ago when bounty campaign conducted. Developer made tried made a stable price because they doing everything very systematically. Which bounty reward isn’t over so that hunters didn’t affected in price. Good projects are surviving we saw that Tokoin and Tachyon.               
No mate, Tachyon paid all the committed rewards to its bounty hunters, the bounty was really cool! But Tokoin extended their bounty payment for 12 months, I mean they will be distributing the reward throughout the year! Both are good project but their nature is different in bounty payment.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Ashong Salonga on March 16, 2020, 04:47:57 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Many projects do fail and the price of the coin drops after the rewards are being distributed due to the reason that the bounty hunters are now selling off their tokens to easily get their rewards from the campaign which is their own rights since they have worked hard for that the entire campaign span. Probably, bounty hunters must not be blamed about it because if the project is really attractive, many people will still get interested into pursuing on purchasing or investing into it after the promotion has been done and the bounty hunters have already claimed their part from the campaign. It is just that there is really something wrong with the project which is the idea is not that good or we can just say a low quality project that doesn't suit to the preference of the public because if it is that attractive, even the bounty hunters have dropped the price, many people will still get into it not just because of its price but because of the project itself. But we must not always drop into conclusions that if a certain project have dumped their prices is they are already considered as bad projects which not because there is also other factors that are needed to be seen to conclude that they are really a bad project that makes them to have a bad result after the reward distribution.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Jennygirl on March 18, 2020, 04:25:40 AM
There's an African proverb that says a bad tree produces bad fruits. A bad project cannot be useful to her investors because the team are only interested in what they'll be making out of the project. It's best for one to be very careful in selecting projects to invest or work for.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: OrangeII on March 18, 2020, 05:34:56 AM
You are right. Investing in a bad project is totally waste of money! That's why investors are looking for a good project, which is very rare nowadays! I am spending my time to research to get a better project, this year Tachyon was a perfect project for investment when it's the price was 0.03$! Tokoin is doing good, so, you are right, bounty hunters are not a problem for any project if your project is good!
Well, it's very rare for projects like Tachyon to appear at the moment. however, research continues to be done and hopes that the projects we support provide good results.
the comparison of a good project with a bad project now is so far away, so now it's easier for people to fall into projects that don't have potential compared to choosing projects like Tachyon. however, a bad project is a bad result, and a good project is a good result. all these results depend on our quality in choosing projects.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Lexurdania on March 18, 2020, 05:59:23 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

In my opinion, bounty hunters are not a factor in reducing prices after listing on exchangers. Bounty hunters usually get paid a few weeks or months after the initial listing and I think tokens or coins whose prices fall after listing are tokens with a low level of investor confidence


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: pragna on March 18, 2020, 06:14:25 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Yes, this is very sure that those projects which has low quality roadmap and did not work for which roadmap they published before IEO is low quality project and when people saw such kind of work they did not buy or sell that tokens. As a result token price fall down.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: firmino10 on April 07, 2020, 11:29:20 PM
The thing is projects like Tokoin are very good projects and they are rare. Only good projects can achieve the kind of success they achieved in a bear market. Likes not like other projects are scam or too bad but it's the market conditions that makes it hard for them to succeed.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Kasabus on April 07, 2020, 11:43:58 PM
The thing is projects like Tokoin are very good projects and they are rare. Only good projects can achieve the kind of success they achieved in a bear market. Likes not like other projects are scam or too bad but it's the market conditions that makes it hard for them to succeed.
Good projects always end up a good one and a sucessful one but a bad project will never be good enough and always resulted into bad. So we should always DYOR before participating a project and make sure to check its background so we will not end up being scammed or even dumping our coins because of their low value.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: trauchot on April 08, 2020, 10:24:36 AM
I agree with you, top-level projects will always develop their technologies and capabilities and will monitor the price of their token and will try to increase the price of their token as much as possible both through marketing and through their product, but of course there are very few such projects now.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: someone703 on April 08, 2020, 10:25:37 AM
Tokoin and Taychon are good projects, they have huge volumes and are listed at major exchanges, so the price of tokens don't fall after the distribution of bounty. But there are so many bullshit projects listed on exchanges that don't have volumes, so prices often fall after bounty is distributed. I totally agree with you, bad projects will lead to bad results


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Tomcolor on April 08, 2020, 10:33:26 AM
It is very simple. If a project has some investors, in other words, buyers in the marketplace, the price will survive. Most of the projects nowadays lack of investors because of low-quality projects and that is why those projects can not survive. However, do not forget that a project can be easily manipulated and most of the projects owner keep doing that.
Yes luck will be depend everything but not lot quality project right now because now more investors very smart and their do not want invest in every project. A project means competition word so if those project well strong developed activity then their will be successful.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Retainly_Collie on April 08, 2020, 11:24:52 AM
The thing is projects like Tokoin are very good projects and they are rare. Only good projects can achieve the kind of success they achieved in a bear market. Likes not like other projects are scam or too bad but it's the market conditions that makes it hard for them to succeed.
At least they are listed at the top exchanges in this market. Huobi is one of the largest exchanges so the price of tokens is unlikely to be broken by the bounty hunter. Only bullshit projects listed on small exchanges are afraid of this issue


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Wildwest on April 08, 2020, 11:45:16 AM
True as you say if the project is good then the value of the selling until now persists but we are very difficult to find such a project, we often find projects that run but ultimately the token is not worth it, then we as gift hunters are very disappointed with such circumstances, we expect to go forward all projects can get satisfactory results.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: SacriFries11 on April 08, 2020, 11:47:52 AM
Tokoin and Taychon are good projects, they have huge volumes and are listed at major exchanges, so the price of tokens don't fall after the distribution of bounty. But there are so many bullshit projects listed on exchanges that don't have volumes, so prices often fall after bounty is distributed. I totally agree with you, bad projects will lead to bad results
It's still depends in the application of the project in crypto world and even it's been very popular during the bounty and crowdfunding still they didn't survived in the market. High value projects will always be a high value when they launch to the market. If they saw a lot of potential of this project, many of investors will surely invest to this and improvement of the project will continue over the years to come which results to a successful project.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Ryushin on April 08, 2020, 12:04:35 PM
Tokoin and Tachyon have investors in it so that the coin is valuable when it is launched on the exchange because the hunter cannot be blamed for his disposal, he knows which coins are good for holding from the bounty.
While other projects have a token destruction after being released or dumped and it is always blamed because hunters sell simultaneously, even though I don't think it's the hunter's fault because hunters can judge which coin is the best.


Here I hope SPYCE can survive like Tokoin and Tachyon which have large volumes on the exchange.
Looks like it's not happening, SPYCE is now trading on BW at 0.012 from its IEO price of 0.03, I don't think it will be like Tachyon protocol or Tokoin bounty, unless the team decide to list on OKEX or Binance


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: mirakal on April 08, 2020, 01:51:36 PM
Looks like it's not happening, SPYCE is now trading on BW at 0.012 from its IEO price of 0.03, I don't think it will be like Tachyon protocol or Tokoin bounty, unless the team decide to list on OKEX or Binance
This is the trend now, it's very rare to see a coin trading higher than its IEO when only traded in low volume exchange.
I am not so confident with OKEX but with Binance there is a big possibility that it will rise, however, it's hard to tell at the current situation.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Yamifoud on April 08, 2020, 02:21:59 PM
True as you say if the project is good then the value of the selling until now persists but we are very difficult to find such a project, we often find projects that run but ultimately the token is not worth it, then we as gift hunters are very disappointed with such circumstances, we expect to go forward all projects can get satisfactory results.
Nothing has changed. This means that you can't magic the results, the bad projects will surely result nothing while good projects will succeed. People will make an investment that they feel or it looks that project is promising. They can't be fooled by now as I believe that they had learned already from their mistake before. Crypto communities are in combat against fake and scam project, it surely they won't succeed and be failed.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: kceekcee on April 08, 2020, 02:49:10 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off


Token  dumping has never been the faults of bounty hunters, its just that blames were always shifted to hunters.
And bad projects equals to bad results is not the true if i may say

We have seen bad projects retain value in the market for a long while before dumping off, and we have seen good projects never going past the crowdfunding stage.
Either good or bad; a project will always dump if care is not taken to maintain value


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: gikere on April 08, 2020, 02:58:05 PM
Yes, bounty hunters dump after receiving the reward is nothing new. If that project is good then the dumping is just a good way for investors to get the coin for cheap. A redistribute from bounty hunters to investors. If that project is just riding on hype train without any backup then of course, it going to be dump without even a chance to recover.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: noorman0 on April 08, 2020, 03:32:18 PM
So far, I've never found a quality project to dispose of their tokens of more than 3% of the total supply to hunters and distribute them at the same time as token/coin listed in the exchange. So, in this case I won't blame the hunter completely with such little allocation as to kill the project. But my assumption, these are projects that have been abandoned by the initial investors (tokensale investors). Until the listed token has reached several times the purchase price and has sufficient trading volume, at that time almost all of their initial investors will sell all tokens. This means that their interests with this project have been fulfilled and they will exchange it back with the original coins (eg. BTC or ETH).

I'm not a proejct investor, but I understand that it's not good to keep new coins/tokens for a long time. The current situation is not like 5 years ago. Of course investors are experienced in this field and more thought by them.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: t3m4nc0k on April 08, 2020, 03:50:09 PM
That's because their products are real and the market demand is so great that it keeps the price of coins going up and even going up, in contrast to other projects that are just bullshit, which always dream of high prices, and another that makes me laugh "when people say that dumps are caused by bounties hunter "those who say that have never seen Tokoin and tachyon protocol


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: aemma on April 08, 2020, 03:59:58 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Your last line or statement explains everything, that is the difference between a good and bad project. Another thing is, a good project never worrys about bounty payments, they put their energy on making their products and services a good one but a bad or questionable project will look for where to shift blame, from which they start saying that either the bounty didn't produce results and/or the distribution will be delayed. And if they eventually pays, and hunters sell, the blame will increase but in the case of a good project the price will hardly feel the impact of hunters selling off as investors will see it as an opportunity to buy more.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: leatutz on April 08, 2020, 07:44:01 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
I think only foolish person can blame only bounty hunters when most of the bounty budget is under 1 percent. Tokoin and Tachyon protocol is doing great but later all project will follow cryptocurrency market condition as doing old bounty project. New projects don't know about old project and condition, devs just do what he thinks as do blame on bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: BRODIN on April 08, 2020, 08:19:57 PM
it depends on how the bounty hunter or token holder is, although it can be said that the tokoin & taychon project is a good project, but if the prize hunter is pressed for economic needs, it is not possible if they will keep it for a long time. especially if they see a high price of course they will sell it.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: forexandcryptoauditor on April 08, 2020, 08:21:25 PM
you are correct. It's not hunters who are dumping the price. Its private investors at the initial stage and later investors if they found it to be a not so good project.
Bounty allocation itself is assigned as around 5% so even though 5% tokens are sold out, there should not be much impact to price.
At last, its project concept and its development which makes the project successful.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: joinfree on April 08, 2020, 10:38:31 PM
Exactly. instead of team members putting plans together about the use case of the project to increase the use and demand of the token. They rather blame bounty hunters for selling the scanty amounts of tokens/coins they gave them without considering the loose token mechanics and the huge insane bonuses offered to investors which makes them dump their holdings as soon the coin hits the market.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: pikkie on April 08, 2020, 10:42:02 PM
many bad projects fail when collecting funds, but there are some bad projects that succeed in deceiving traders and investors as happened some time ago the bcnex exchange site project was finally a scam and failed which ultimately made many people lose.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: mirakal on April 08, 2020, 11:03:10 PM
many bad projects fail when collecting funds, but there are some bad projects that succeed in deceiving traders and investors as happened some time ago the bcnex exchange site project was finally a scam and failed which ultimately made many people lose.
They belong to the bad projects because their purpose is just to scam people.
When a certain project will not be able to collect at least the minimum, that means investors don't trust their platform in overall and they will fail.
What will happen next is they will now make a new group and try to raise funds again in IEO, this is happening that's why investors should be very careful in evaluating the project before they will invest.

successful project means profitable investors and bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Jateng on April 08, 2020, 11:19:58 PM
Exactly. instead of team members putting plans together about the use case of the project to increase the use and demand of the token. They rather blame bounty hunters for selling the scanty amounts of tokens/coins they gave them without considering the loose token mechanics and the huge insane bonuses offered to investors which makes them dump their holdings as soon the coin hits the market.
They should be prepared with that scenario where bounty hunters will sell their coins after it launched to exchange sites. Probably they also need money to support their financial problems and because of this situation some projects hold some amount of payout of their bounty hunters over a couple of months. Another campaign paid their bounty hunters by month basis to secure the price their tokens and required KYC so some participants have no longer want their token to pay because of this KYC verification.
Probably some projects are not in good concept and proper delivery in the market so some of them results to be failed and end up with nothing.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: olabiyijummy02 on April 08, 2020, 11:24:17 PM
Whether the token will be fruitful or not after launch will rely upon the liquidity of the token. furthermore, the token liquidity will rely upon the project itself. on the off chance that the project is acceptable, at that point all things considered, the liquidity of the token is likewise acceptable and it will incredibly influence the token exchanging volume with the goal that it can endure and keep on expanding. on the off chance that it has no liquidity by any stretch of the imagination, at that point the token will vanish after launch and that is a reality that has been going on this time.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: htsy585 on April 08, 2020, 11:53:41 PM
many bad projects fail when collecting funds, but there are some bad projects that succeed in deceiving traders and investors as happened some time ago the bcnex exchange site project was finally a scam and failed which ultimately made many people lose.

I agree with you, the issue of scam projects raising huge amounts of money and packing up with the money raised from investors is the reason behind the major turndown to cryptocurrency market. The huge bear of 2018 started after so much ico projects emerges and ended up scamming people, a lot of people leave cryptocurrency investments for good since then and the huge decrease we see everyday validate the fact that people are moving out of this market and the only logical reason to it is the scam exit by project that raised money.  I just wish there more of resources that we can use to know the guenuity of a project, atleast it will help in choosing the good ones


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: bitgolden on April 10, 2020, 09:08:35 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
I always laugh when I see people that claims that the main reasons projects fails is because bounty hunters are selling ;D. Bounty hunters are not investors, that’s what these people don’t know. Hunters are just doing their job which is to promote the project and help the project to get investors and grow.

So after this heavy work they deserve to be paid their money, and it’s not a must that they will make use of that token, they are free to sell it to for any token of their choice. I don’t see any way that hunters should be blamed for a project that failed. It’s up to the team that are running the project to put in a lot of hard work and push their project.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: gensol on April 10, 2020, 09:37:36 AM
You're right. Any good or quality project does not die after campaign or after IEO or ICO. The price of the token stays stable as project keeps being developed. A bad project dies off when people start selling the token because there's not any development going on with the project.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: XCANA on April 10, 2020, 09:38:47 AM
What I found out about many and thousands of projects that failed is: many projects were created out of tin air without good idea backing these projects at anytime. Few year I have spent with cryptocurrency made me to understand that, some individuals can do anything to extort money from investors thereby creating fake and clone projects for weak investors who can't research before they invest. No matter how a project looks like, without a good product behind the project seem to end in shackles of dreams. "Show me a bad project and I will show you a bad result".


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Doranile432 on April 10, 2020, 09:43:13 AM
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And as for SPYCE, i think they will be fine because participants are limited to each campaign, so the fear of hunters dumping has been eliminated.

That is what I believe in the SPYCE project because it has a participant limit so there will not be so much dumping, I participated in a signature campaign and believe this token will have a good impact on the market, and tomorrow SPYCE will be listed on Probit.
And usually SPYCY / KRW pairs will always impact well with large volumes.
But SPYCE value is already down to 0.01cent from 3cents, that's not a good sign compared to the performance of Tachyon and Tokoin, they are not on the same path in terms of performance


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: miklesm on April 10, 2020, 09:57:39 AM
Bounty hunters usually get a small part of total tokens supply, so they are unable to dump the price. If the project is not showing promising results in development, it is normally that investors start to sell their tokens causing the dump.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: chanc3r on April 10, 2020, 10:15:57 AM
You're right. Any good or quality project does not die after campaign or after IEO or ICO. The price of the token stays stable as project keeps being developed. A bad project dies off when people start selling the token because there's not any development going on with the project.
A good project can sustain all of the aspects to be synched from one to each other especially to create hype to make the buyers will not be going from its own market. A bad project dies caused by it has already made for some purpose like it has already created to be a scam project since the start and there was no intention to develop it even further.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Mighty_crypt on April 10, 2020, 10:41:35 AM
Bounties rewards are always small if the project failed to see huge demand, these projects will easily lose value, tachyon and Tokoin are able to withstand anything even in bad market because they have many investors who are willing to buy


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: jhonjhon on April 10, 2020, 11:22:09 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
It probably because these projects have something to contribute to the market and they are not abandoned by its developer after they paid the participants. The future of a certain project lies into the hand of the developers if they don't want to make it successful and fully runs their project, it surely they will go. The intention of these projects (Tokion and Tachyon) might be good and it attracts investors to help it maintain its market price, unlike the others.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Retainly_Collie on April 10, 2020, 01:22:18 PM
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And as for SPYCE, i think they will be fine because participants are limited to each campaign, so the fear of hunters dumping has been eliminated.

That is what I believe in the SPYCE project because it has a participant limit so there will not be so much dumping, I participated in a signature campaign and believe this token will have a good impact on the market, and tomorrow SPYCE will be listed on Probit.
And usually SPYCY / KRW pairs will always impact well with large volumes.
But SPYCE value is already down to 0.01cent from 3cents, that's not a good sign compared to the performance of Tachyon and Tokoin, they are not on the same path in terms of performance
SPYCE is not a good project, their prices have collapsed too much since running bounty, so I believe they will continue to crash in the future because they list at small exchanges and there is no volume. If projects do not want to collapse when bounty distribution is required, they need to be listed on large exchanges and have large volumes.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: JCviggen on April 10, 2020, 02:08:34 PM
Bounties rewards are always small if the project failed to see huge demand, these projects will easily lose value, tachyon and Tokoin are able to withstand anything even in bad market because they have many investors who are willing to buy
these two projects are really very good showing themselves even in bad conditions at the market. I would say that these are the only projects that should be hold for a long time and not sell from bounty rewards


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: darewaller on April 10, 2020, 07:28:09 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
You shouldn’t be blaming the hunters here. That Tokoin and Tachyon are successful projects doesn’t mean that the hunters didn’t sell their coins, they did sell their coin. You have to understand that when bounty hunters join a campaign they are doing it to get paid and not to get a share in the campaign. They help in promoting the campaign so that they can get investors. So, hunters promote and investors buy the tokens.

These are two different people. The team that are running the campaign should as well be good at what they do to be able to retain their investors, because if they are not, they will lose them. So I hope I have made this clear, there is no need for you to be blaming the hunters in this kind of situation.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ije07 on April 10, 2020, 08:58:20 PM
it is important to know that bounty hunters are not the brains behind falling coin prices. the fall in the price of coins or tokens generated from the project either occurs because the project investor himself, or someone from the team who has many tokens. so, I don't think prize hunters can be blamed as the brains behind the incident.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Crypto5060 on April 10, 2020, 10:24:14 PM
This is not entirely true as we've seen shit projects get a lot of hype and reach new highs but legitimate projects suffer from lack of exposure and continue to struggle.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: mdzahed134 on May 17, 2020, 03:56:31 PM
Bounties rewards are always small if the project failed to see huge demand, these projects will easily lose value, tachyon and Tokoin are able to withstand anything even in bad market because they have many investors who are willing to buy
these two projects are really very good showing themselves even in bad conditions at the market. I would say that these are the only projects that should be hold for a long time and not sell from bounty rewards
Tachyon was best campaign, hunters did sell tokens instantly it’s a satisfaction but Tokoin participants has won little bit different experienced, they paid 40% to 50% tokens very quickly as far as deadline. Toko collapsed too much i don't think it will increase. I would like to say you can hold long term Tachyon if you have bounty rewards.                           


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: LbtalkL on May 17, 2020, 04:08:56 PM
Allocation for bounty hunters is usually 1 to 2 percent of the total supply, which I think does not really affect the market, maybe a little bit it will cause some temporary decrease in price but if the project is really good it will surely recover. If traders make an interest in their coin I guess it will have a good volume, it is the team jobs to do good marketing to attract more traders. But what is happening in most projects now is they are going to list on sh*t exchange, attack by bot maybe the team dump also, and the project is completely rekt which is unfortunate for hunters. Tokensale is not really a thing now, except those IEO from top exchanges which is still good.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: erep on May 17, 2020, 04:24:45 PM
The project you mentioned is a real project that has real investors, no manipulation and no IEO on bad exchanges. Many bad project campaigns that make the hunter bounty unlucky after they have campaigned for months only valued dust coins. Both campaigns of the project that prove there is still a good campaign on the bounty thread until now.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Galley on May 17, 2020, 06:06:16 PM
The quality of the project can only speak interest from investors. If he is interested in it, they will invest money, and accordingly, the project will be alive and will work, and will not die a couple of days after it goes on the exchange.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: StephenJH on May 17, 2020, 06:23:06 PM
You are definitely right about that, bad projects equal bad results. If we would make more research about that, can see that there were much more projects that could not get any good result from own projects. No doubt these numbers were higher in 2018 than in other years. The main reason is if investors would be interested in the project, this will be successful, on the contrary, it has to die.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ecnalubma on May 17, 2020, 06:35:06 PM
Its a common issues to most projects after they paid the bounties prices may slightly depreciate or deeply depreciated due to large volume of sell-offs however some of them quickly recover in the next few days and slowly meeting the demands. Early stage of projects are more on speculation rather than product driven prices, too early to judge as they say.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: suryapro on May 17, 2020, 06:43:07 PM
indeed, we rarely find bounty projects that can survive as owned by tokoin and tachyon. maybe the answer that comes in will be, because both of these projects have good management products and management. thus providing great results for its users. namely bounty hunters and investors


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: fvb on May 17, 2020, 07:08:48 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
Bounty hunters have a small percentage of all project tokens issued.  And in my opinion this is a big mistake, that hunters destroy the development of the company by selling their tokens.  Most likely the project and its technological value does not have much significance for development and the need for the economy, that is, utility for users.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Valzador on May 17, 2020, 07:14:29 PM
The title is written is true.
However, this only applies to this year's campaign. Last year, good and bad projects provided that their development team could create FOMO and listings on the famous exchange at that time, even bad projects can make you earn lots of money.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: 103deltafox on May 17, 2020, 08:38:18 PM
That's true, I can also remember tachyon , even after hunters sold, the coin price value kept increasing same with tokoin so in my opinion, I don't think bounty hunters are the cause of a project dump, normally the effect of BTC is seen on these project but some without good use even when BTC is stable they keep loosing price value even without the token being shared to bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: pgbit on May 17, 2020, 09:19:36 PM
Risk can be defined as an uncertain event or condition that results in a positive or negative effect on a project's objectives. Whereas, an issue can be defined as an event or condition that has already happened and has impacted or currently impacting the project objectives. The biggest challenge faced by all organisations that wish to use project management in crypto market.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: key4co.in on May 17, 2020, 09:58:16 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Some projects have a buy back strategy which prevent hunters from dumping and causing negative price effect. I remember REMME, an old project which placed about 1000ETH buy wall just so hunters do not make it dump hard on IDEX wayback. Tachyon really did well, even mooned hard after Bounty distribution and hunters who rushed to sell regretted. Hence, good projects come up with good strategies to limit massive dips, even though they can't completely prevent it.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: gundala on May 17, 2020, 11:42:36 PM
~Hence, good projects come up with good strategies to limit massive dips, even though they can't completely prevent it.
Yes at least it can be prevented, so there is no more reason that bounty hunters are causing dumps. The development team should have prepared a good strategy to prevent the dump, didn't they also plan the bounty campaign? they should also prepare strategies to strengthen the market.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ampere on May 17, 2020, 11:51:36 PM
You are right, all bad projects end up giving bad results and this is why investors must wary , do their research and make the best of choices because often time bad projects bring profits on the short term which can be tempting.

Always avoid bad projects, don't just trade all, have a few gems and maintain your portfolio wisely


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: $anounimus$ on May 18, 2020, 02:57:57 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

If I say this is the art of Project, where investors and owners must be prepared with all conditions after the launch of a project. This where they need sharp observations and it is not enough to only study theories and market conditions. Some project needs practice and requires project manager to always be flexible don't fail and to become a success future.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: lienfaye on May 18, 2020, 03:07:05 AM
You are right, all bad projects end up giving bad results and this is why investors must wary , do their research and make the best of choices because often time bad projects bring profits on the short term which can be tempting.

Always avoid bad projects, don't just trade all, have a few gems and maintain your portfolio wisely
Indeed. What we can expect on bad projects? of course bad outcome.
Even the hunters dump their coins after getting the rewards, it should not be a reason for the coins to plunge and never recover back. Because good projects with high demand and real use case would not end up like that. Extensive research can help us to avoid bad projects.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Pirate46Mx on May 18, 2020, 03:12:50 AM
actually all projects have the same goal, where they want their project to succeed and many people want to invest in it, but the cause of a project to be bad or not developed after launching due to lack of investors who are interested in their project, so that makes the price of coins more destroyed or even worthless.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Lasky366 on May 18, 2020, 04:05:51 AM
Yes correctly you said!  Hunter never be reason for dump in any project.In bounty how many dollars they pay?Maximum 100k,200k or even 500k.But it's never gonna destroy any project if they have real demand & have usecase.But most of the case project failed to gain their funds, lack of investors.That's why project stopped their developing & result is known to all.Token became valueless.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: bgaf on May 18, 2020, 04:55:16 AM
You are definitely right about that, bad projects equal bad results. If we would make more research about that, can see that there were much more projects that could not get any good result from own projects. No doubt these numbers were higher in 2018 than in other years. The main reason is if investors would be interested in the project, this will be successful, on the contrary, it has to die.
Thats always the case for every ICO projects. What is the percentage that these new ones will succeed? Most likely near 90% and only few survived. I witness many projects being expose on many investors and most likely they only invest on known or legit one. Airdrop and bounty is rare for these so the chance those projects rely on promotion on these hunters were probably scam one.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: BTCbengi on May 18, 2020, 06:29:55 AM
I think there are two main reasons for the disruption of projects. Firstly, it is probably because the amount of tokens they sold when the ICO started was not enough to continue their project. They can still pay bounty hunters exactly for the tokens they earn. However, it cannot go on any exchange or its price is very low. It can be considered that the project has failed.
The second reason is that they do not know how to control time points so that bounty hunters can use the tokens they receive to trade. I think this is very important. Most bounty hunters will sell their tokens as soon as they receive it. That makes the price of tokens very low and makes the project fail


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: thekrakennnm on May 18, 2020, 07:13:54 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
Value and price don't depend on hunters sell-off or something similar it only depends on development process and other stuff going in exact project/with the exact coin. If the price goes down it is all because the team was not working well enough.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Farma on May 18, 2020, 07:20:21 AM
You are right, all bad projects end up giving bad results and this is why investors must wary , do their research and make the best of choices because often time bad projects bring profits on the short term which can be tempting.

Always avoid bad projects, don't just trade all, have a few gems and maintain your portfolio wisely
some bad projects have characteristics that sometimes the project has unclear goals. in fact, some projects do not have the latest news for investors. however, such a project will slowly disappear. there are enough projects like that for now, and to be honest, it's very difficult to avoid them.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: qigong13 on May 18, 2020, 11:39:24 AM
I agree with you on bounty hunters aren't the ones to blame if after the promotion and the coin going nowhere. But usually, the bad project can't see why they failed and take it on the others. They try to blame hunters to convince people holding their coin that the faults weren't on them. Pretty pathetic move.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: umbara ardian on May 18, 2020, 11:39:40 AM
actually all projects have the same goal, where they want their project to succeed and many people want to invest in it, but the cause of a project to be bad or not developed after launching due to lack of investors who are interested in their project, so that makes the price of coins more destroyed or even worthless.
If they want to have investors, then their projects must first have quality and get products. Existing investors were too scared of paper-based projects, all of them disappeared after the end of the ICO and left a huge landfill.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: max6575 on May 18, 2020, 01:45:19 PM
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Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: shadowdio on May 18, 2020, 01:55:49 PM
Yep hunters should not blame the dump of the tokens, they just work to promote the project let them sell the token if they want. If the project is good then we don't have to worry the price because it will bounce back and will mooning.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: NS-Soul on May 18, 2020, 02:05:13 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
Tokoin and tachyon both projects are good and it has a good profit in return to the investors until now I see that they are still alive on telegram while having another partnership so it was survive, unlike any other project after  running an ICO or IEO then hunters dump their coin the blame was always on the hunter when the price goes dump.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Romeotom on May 18, 2020, 02:35:54 PM
Bad project always bad i want explain Tokoin project.
Do you know there didn't not pay full amount of every bounty hunter? Even part of part that's mean Tokoin was making announcement 1 year need fully payment for bounty. There sent bounty hunter token % of per month so why Tokoin price was falling long time.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Mammothcoin on May 18, 2020, 02:42:41 PM
That the price of the tokens of a project dump after a bounty(marketing) campaign is not necessarily indicative of the project being a bad one. Agreed that marketing is supposed to create awareness about a project but numerous factors come into play in determining the growth of token price. Sometimes massive interest in the project might occur later on, not necessarily during or immediately after the bounty campaign.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: BD Money365 on May 18, 2020, 03:55:32 PM
each and every project have potential, mainly projects will occasionally put away their jobs if their goals grasp been achieved. The argument is a fine throw will not assent to the tokens or goods they enjoy scrupulously ended encompass a adverse cost on the promote or level be inflicted with no price. yeah, projet who doesn't sense about it is a unpleasant mission in my opinion.



Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Vohoanghiep on May 18, 2020, 05:51:25 PM
Each project has different potential, I think tychoon and tokoin are good projects that can overcome this problem. Since Tokoin and Tachyon have investors in there to make the coin valuable when it is launched on the exchange because the hunter can't blame his disposal, he knows which coins are good to hold the bonus. . Not all projects have good potential, some projects do not reach their goals, so bounty hunters are at a disadvantage, because they cannot enjoy the fruits of labor when promoting the project.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: princesspoppy on May 18, 2020, 06:09:33 PM
Most bounty hunters do sell off their tokens once they get paid but it's not a reason for them to take the blame if a project fail. The success of a project depends on its team, usefulness of the project, and also on its investors. If a project is useful, has a good and hardworking team as well as investors that supports and use the project, then that project will surely be successful.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: jahepahit on May 18, 2020, 06:58:47 PM
Tokoin and tachyon, are good projects, and we rarely find projects like this. because even though the campaign program has ended and the prize hunters have received their wages, this project is still ongoing and more and more enthusiasts are interested in owning the second coin of this project.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: TheGreatPython on May 18, 2020, 08:18:59 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
There are lots of reasons as to why a project is likely to fail. There are lots of scam projects, and it's true that it might have affected ICOs in some ways. Another thing that can lead to the failure of an ICO is when the project fails to reach its milestone. There are times when the organizers fail to do the right thing. Some of them fail to register their websites and accounts, and thus may lead to hackers taking over their website in future and leading to them losing a lot of coins in future, which will in turn lead to the end of the project.

This way bad projects are just becoming part of this crypto space and it is individual's responsibility to take care against those bad projects and no one could do anything else. Just doing all the due diligence may save an individual investor. This the reason I have stopped contributing to ICO some long time back itself and never touched any IEOs as well.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ScamViruS on May 18, 2020, 08:38:13 PM
It depends on the investor's interest in the project. If there is big investors in a project and traders are interested in that project, then after that project comes in the market, the price remains the same even after the bounty hunters sell. So a lot of things work here, like how that project did marketing and how many whale traders it was able to attract. Because marketing plays an important role in making a project successful and sustainable in the market.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: yazher on May 18, 2020, 10:27:23 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Some project cannot handle their losses after the big dump of their tokens by both of the investors and the bounty participants. That will lead to their project sink at the bottom forever. base on my years of experience in seeing some projects like that, they will likely remain at the bottom forever unless some of the whale's association will choose their project as a means to confuse investors of a bull run, like what happened to the hydrogen tokens.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Twinkledoe on May 18, 2020, 10:53:05 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Some project cannot handle their losses after the big dump of their tokens by both of the investors and the bounty participants. That will lead to their project sink at the bottom forever. base on my years of experience in seeing some projects like that, they will likely remain at the bottom forever unless some of the whale's association will choose their project as a means to confuse investors of a bull run, like what happened to the hydrogen tokens.

If the project is really weak, they will not recover from the dump. Considering that the percentage that they distribute to bounty hunters is very small as compared to investors or the team, so even if there will be dump from hunters, they should recover fast if the team/investors will not also dump their holdings. Those that will not recover are more than likely crap projects that are only created for the dev's pockets, nothing else.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Viscore on May 18, 2020, 11:40:44 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Some project cannot handle their losses after the big dump of their tokens by both of the investors and the bounty participants. That will lead to their project sink at the bottom forever. base on my years of experience in seeing some projects like that, they will likely remain at the bottom forever unless some of the whale's association will choose their project as a means to confuse investors of a bull run, like what happened to the hydrogen tokens.

If the project is really weak, they will not recover from the dump. Considering that the percentage that they distribute to bounty hunters is very small as compared to investors or the team, so even if there will be dump from hunters, they should recover fast if the team/investors will not also dump their holdings. Those that will not recover are more than likely crap projects that are only created for the dev's pockets, nothing else.

Most of them are called scams because they will not try to recover, if you noticed on some projects that has a good pump last bull run, but the price dump now and they are not actively providing updates, that means they are leaving the project already, and no chance it will recover and bad thing is that many will be left as bagholders or a useless coins or tokens, I would say I also fall victim to this.  :(


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: kaneki007 on May 19, 2020, 03:59:03 AM
Yep hunters should not blame the dump of the tokens, they just work to promote the project let them sell the token if they want. If the project is good then we don't have to worry the price because it will bounce back and will mooning.
Nobody should blame each other because it's not only the bounty hunter who sells tokens when the distribution is done, maybe investors also want to take profit if the price has gone up from the price of ICOs/IEOs. Before you believe if one day the price will go up, pay attention to the project first, because there are some projects that get a large enough fund when making a sale but when the list on the exchange, trading volume is very small so maybe if the price will return again it might take a long time.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: reza7777 on May 19, 2020, 07:55:49 AM
Tachyon and tokoin are real projects and their products are in great demand by everyone so demand is getting higher in the market, contrast to most projects today which talk more about plans but all end up with nonsense and very slow team work (making covid 19 as an excuse)


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Santri on May 20, 2020, 02:05:38 PM
Tokens for bounties are actually not enough to make a dump in the market because tokens for bounties are only 1% of the supply, very different from the bonuses that investors get. those who experienced dumps because they are indeed very bad projects that make little demand in the market and no one is interested


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Jonyshake71 on May 22, 2020, 04:04:14 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
Well said. Some hunters can't dump any token price when team distribute very few amount of token among us. So blaming hunters for dumping token price, is illogical. Actually most of them are scammer. They like to fruad with people, no matter how much profit they make from ICOs/IEOs


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: junkerr on May 22, 2020, 04:08:33 PM
Tachyon and tokoin are real projects and their products are in great demand by everyone so demand is getting higher in the market, contrast to most projects today which talk more about plans but all end up with nonsense and very slow team work (making covid 19 as an excuse)
You are right, some projects use this pandemic reason to stop the project and there is no certainty of its continuation. but for some projects that are serious and good they can still run and get support from their markets.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: kapalmabur on May 22, 2020, 05:54:37 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
The dump that happens to tokens or coins when listed on the exchange is not the fault of the bounty hunter,
if the project is good the demand in the market will be better than the sale, don't blame the Bounty hunter


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: memed97 on May 22, 2020, 06:19:54 PM
Tokens for bounties are actually not enough to make a dump in the market because tokens for bounties are only 1% of the supply, very different from the bonuses that investors get. those who experienced dumps because they are indeed very bad projects that make little demand in the market and no one is interested
As we think, the 1% supply for the bounty is not able to create a price dump in the market if there is a lot of demand on the token, but what we see at the moment is the 1% supply for the bounty is also able to make a price dump in the market when many bounty participants release the tokens they get through the bounty.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: adzino on May 22, 2020, 06:42:06 PM
You don't say. How would you expect a bad project to have a really good value in the long run? You shouldn't believe or look at the value of the tokens initially. Since, the prices are pumped and manipulated by the developers themselves, you might think that the price is really high. But, eventually after scamming all their investors, they just dump the tokens and the project dies along with the price of the token. Too bad, the market is filled with such projects.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: makishart on May 23, 2020, 02:30:48 AM
Tokens for bounties are actually not enough to make a dump in the market because tokens for bounties are only 1% of the supply, very different from the bonuses that investors get. those who experienced dumps because they are indeed very bad projects that make little demand in the market and no one is interested
As we think, the 1% supply for the bounty is not able to create a price dump in the market if there is a lot of demand on the token, but what we see at the moment is the 1% supply for the bounty is also able to make a price dump in the market when many bounty participants release the tokens they get through the bounty.
It looks like i should remind you again even if the team was putting 2% or 3 % to the bounty and that will not create a dump as long as there was a lot of demand to the tokens in the market. This will prevent the dump to happen. There are so many project with a huge liquidity has proven this statement


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: nikki4 on May 24, 2020, 06:11:30 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
After or later every project needs some correction, that time price will dump. Bounty hunters can't be a reason to price drop. One coin hasn't demand all time until long time pass like Bitcoin or top coin. More good project price was dumped, so I think tokoin and tachyon price needs some correction. Still you can decide which project is good.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Bitstar_coin on May 24, 2020, 06:31:54 PM
From my observations, the problem now is not about hunters dumping, many projects don't even give hunters the opportunity to dump because they never had the opportunity to be listed on an exchange let alone have any small value, many of them keeps failing because they don't have investors, without investors funds project can not list or develop
So if project fails to attract investors hunters will not get their rewards.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: gweedo on May 24, 2020, 06:34:37 PM
Tokens for bounties are actually not enough to make a dump in the market because tokens for bounties are only 1% of the supply, very different from the bonuses that investors get. those who experienced dumps because they are indeed very bad projects that make little demand in the market and no one is interested
As we think, the 1% supply for the bounty is not able to create a price dump in the market if there is a lot of demand on the token, but what we see at the moment is the 1% supply for the bounty is also able to make a price dump in the market when many bounty participants release the tokens they get through the bounty.
It looks like i should remind you again even if the team was putting 2% or 3 % to the bounty and that will not create a dump as long as there was a lot of demand to the tokens in the market. This will prevent the dump to happen. There are so many project with a huge liquidity has proven this statement
It all depends on the liquidity of that project. I still remember the TemTum project, they have a liquidity of over 500k $ per day. And when they distribute bounty at the same time, the price doesn't collapse, there are even more buyers than before and that's the best bounty I've seen in 2019.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Odebowa on May 24, 2020, 08:08:53 PM
Hmm, it's true bad project is tantamount to bad results  because you can't give what you dont have . Though most project success are determined by investor demand if their low demand it can tagged project bad results and sometimes manager and teams fault. So those project you mentioned thrive because of their demand


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: b1k4ng on May 24, 2020, 08:48:32 PM
All I know is about the Tachyon Protocol project, they are still working and still growing. the team in the project is indeed very professional, so that prices do not experience a dump. Other projects that sometimes dump or die because they do not work professionally and only give false promises to everyone and make everyone feel bored


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ZincUnrated on May 24, 2020, 10:02:19 PM
As with everything in life.. If you aren't set up rightly, there is a great chance that you won't succeed. It is exactly what it is. Most cryptocurrency projects keep doing the exact thing like the ones that have come before them leading to repeated failures. If you are set up badly, it's more likely that you produce bad results. Until something changes in the industry, we will keep seeing bad results. Most projects are just copying and pasting the same thing other projects that have come before did and there is simply no innovative approach.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: suryapro on May 24, 2020, 11:03:40 PM
most projects have a good price and value, they on average have a good team and concept, as well as a real product. especially Tokoin who is now making a program on biki exchange. This is an example of the concept of Tokoin, which I can write a little about


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: taufik0911 on August 30, 2020, 05:24:52 AM
tachyon in my opinion they are on the wrong blockchains because this is what I saw when opening dex exchange waves there was really no large volume and this is one of the reasons I don't like Waves-based projects, that is when the token is generated, the token is automatically entered in exchange dex waves
with a very cheap manufacturing cost and also a very easy token creation, this triggers a good project in waves to be very bad


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: glowing10 on August 30, 2020, 05:42:35 AM
yes, the point is that not all projects that look bad will end up bad too or sometimes can end otherwise. for example the Taychon or Tokoin project, many prize hunters or investors claim that the project ended with a scam. and it turned out unexpectedly that the project was successful.

If your luck is good or bad things may be accordingly. So sometimes even bad project may give little profits and you may book it and then it becomes worthless, so you made money out of it even if it was bad project in the end. But overall, we cannot expect the bad projects to sustain in the long run.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: H1N1 on August 30, 2020, 02:41:44 PM
Good project won't be affected by the hunters. Even if many hunters sell the token, the token price won't going down too much.
The most important thing is how the team manage their project. To protect the value of the token, the team must find a solution how to do it.
For example, buyback the token, find some new investors, etc.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Valak on August 30, 2020, 03:54:41 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

Yes. It was a bad project, and their sales didn't hit the mark. Apart from that they are unable to recruit investors who buy their coins. Maybe recently there is a project called DIA. If we look at now the price is increasing. In fact the price of the coins is much better than the prices during the campaign.

So the decline in the coin price after launch had no effect on the peseta bounty. If the project goes bad, even though the bounty participant doesn't hold the token, their token price will still go down.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: cepot9 on August 30, 2020, 04:57:48 PM
Bounty hunters cannot be blamed in full because they are entitled to or paid for the work done. Usually it is indeed a bad project or because the exchange is less attractive or because many investors sell large quantities because they buy tokens at private sales at a lower price.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Dollar_Hunter on August 30, 2020, 06:04:13 PM
if there is already a bad picture why should you invest in it ?, the answer is already in you,
if you enter into a bad project then you are like suicide


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: akwfleaspirit on August 30, 2020, 07:40:01 PM
Good projects stay strong even when marketers dump. Already team should know there game plan in developing there project. If it's not having a good use case, it will not succeed. Some also depend on investors or shillers as they call them. But most importantly, a successful project depends on the dev and team.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Bezobraznike on August 30, 2020, 07:54:40 PM
Good projects stay strong even when marketers dump. Already team should know there game plan in developing there project. If it's not having a good use case, it will not succeed. Some also depend on investors or shillers as they call them. But most importantly, a successful project depends on the dev and team.

   The problems in what people think what is strong! They only watch current price, and they think that price represents true value.
That's wrong thinking, when Bitcoin price drops nothing stops, people continue to do the same, everything is alive and well, and
after some time the price rise again. With bad projects it's different, people don't use them in anytime, just pump and dump
group, they create volume for their needs, and when they dump everything, the coin drops and can never recover.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Miaallen on August 30, 2020, 08:20:18 PM
Definitely, once a project is bad, you can't expect anything from it beyond failure. Although, looking has different dimensions. That's why conducting research before joining a project is very mandatory.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Lorokan on August 30, 2020, 08:31:01 PM
Well, i have a different opinion, because as a investor who buy low and sells high most times you cannot care if the project is bad or poor, you only care about the price of the token, With this regard, we can boldly state that bad projects can equal to massive bullish price which equals to good profits.

Do you agree with me ?


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: zulfi125 on August 30, 2020, 08:36:18 PM
Most of the projects are coming to make money to sell their tokens or coin to investors and promote through bounty hunters you can say good project never dumped just little dumped when bounty hunter sold their token. Still, after the little dump, the price is gone up, so this is a reality bad project not giving good profit to bounty hunters.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: lousie9 on August 30, 2020, 08:39:48 PM
do you mean the project token value is destroyed? and do you think it was caused by the bounty hunter himself? In my opinion he is not alone, usually early investors sell first after they get it even before the bounty project ends, bounty hunters only get the rest.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Becky666 on August 30, 2020, 08:43:27 PM
Well, i have a different opinion, because as a investor who buy low and sells high most times you cannot care if the project is bad or poor, you only care about the price of the token, With this regard, we can boldly state that bad projects can equal to massive bullish price which equals to good profits.

Do you agree with me ?
::) "bad project is equal to bad results."

Answer to your analysis, bad project give low exchange volume: this mean that, whenever the project stay good the results will be good because of the token volume. How then do you sell that token without a volume? Good project always come with good exchange volume but bad project give otherwise. In conclusion: good project will give profits while bad project will give bad results.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: chakhigh on August 31, 2020, 10:01:07 AM
Yes, I totally agree! If hunters are dumping their tokens, then it doesn't mean "project failure". A solid one will continue to work for the long-run. Take for a sample the upcoming YOUengine project. If bounty hunters dump their tokens, will this project fail?!! I doubt it!

Because perseverance is more important, in the long-run, than temporary token dumping. So, it is all about the team's work and the niche market demand.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: AbNewton on August 31, 2020, 10:04:01 AM
Yes, only bad projects would be dumped and the price will not recover after the end of the bounty. If it was a good project, 1%-2% of funding for bounty aint the problem and can't cause or trigger a dump. Any project blames their price fall on bounty hunters are just bad and want to use bounty hunters as their scapegoat.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 31, 2020, 10:35:07 AM
Yes, only bad projects would be dumped and the price will not recover after the end of the bounty. If it was a good project, 1%-2% of funding for bounty aint the problem and can't cause or trigger a dump. Any project blames their price fall on bounty hunters are just bad and want to use bounty hunters as their scapegoat.

Dumping is not possible with 1% of the tokens (even if we assume that all the bounty hunters will be getting rid of their tokens at the same time). And if the project team believes that the bounty hunters are selling the tokens at cheap rates, what prevents them from purchasing these tokens at such low prices? These are just silly excuses to hide the defects in the project.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Ceyflix-Rez on August 31, 2020, 05:35:31 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
What can I say? The projects have bad utility that's why they fail, as a bounty hunter it's only a dream to keep thinking that all projects that you promote will prosper, no that's not reality, you have to take things as it is with bounties or walk away


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Ceyflix-Rez on August 31, 2020, 05:38:12 PM
Yes, I totally agree! If hunters are dumping their tokens, then it doesn't mean "project failure". A solid one will continue to work for the long-run. Take for a sample the upcoming YOUengine project. If bounty hunters dump their tokens, will this project fail?!! I doubt it!

Because perseverance is more important, in the long-run, than temporary token dumping. So, it is all about the team's work and the niche market demand.
What makes you think that Youengine is different and worth promoting? This project claim that they don't need money for listing or from Crowdfunding as if they are so rich but they can't use better exchanges for IEO, they are using p2pb2b exchange and it's kind and again the team are hyping only what John McAfee twitted about the project, I don't see anything successful about this project. Maybe I'm wrong? In time we will have answers


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: dataispower on August 31, 2020, 09:31:33 PM
everything is true because bounty hunters are only paid 1 to 2 percent of the total tokens that will be sold so it doesn't really matter with the bounty hunter If the project is good, of course there will be many traders so that token bounty that want to be directly bought by the trader

I'll be honest with you some coins dump temporarily after Bounty distribution if the Bounty allocation is extremely large and buy orders are not huge. The best strategy for a team is to ensure some level of buy back if the coin lacks sufficient liquidity. However, good projects with high demand level for their coin do not need to worry at all since the effect will be negligible. Like OP mentioned, bad projects equal bad results and the project and its coin will go extinct over time even without Bounty distribution.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Wingo on August 31, 2020, 09:39:57 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

It's always about the idea of the project. Investors are only dependent on the idea and roadmap of the project, there are no other basis if the project will be successful or not. If the idea is great, they will choose to hodl instead of dumping their tokens and hence pumping the price since other people will also gain interest and buy the token because the project has a potential.

There are also other projects which are only great at the beginning and just dumps after some months. So better set a target price when you will sell your holdings or keep watching the market regarding the price.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Mahanton on August 31, 2020, 09:49:41 PM
everything is true because bounty hunters are only paid 1 to 2 percent of the total tokens that will be sold so it doesn't really matter with the bounty hunter If the project is good, of course there will be many traders so that token bounty that want to be directly bought by the trader

I'll be honest with you some coins dump temporarily after Bounty distribution if the Bounty allocation is extremely large and buy orders are not huge. The best strategy for a team is to ensure some level of buy back if the coin lacks sufficient liquidity. However, good projects with high demand level for their coin do not need to worry at all since the effect will be negligible. Like OP mentioned, bad projects equal bad results and the project and its coin will go extinct over time even without Bounty distribution.
As expected where bounty hunters would always took the blame in talks into these kind of common dumps that do happen after distribution without even talking about the investors itself?
You know that its only mostly on 1% total allocation of bounty tokens compared to those investors who do bought bulks.Its understandable though that it can make such impact if the
said volume on said exchange isnt really that big which is pretty common but as said that good projects wouldnt really matter on this kind of issue yet they can stand on such
scenario of being dumped and when demand and interest is there then recovery would really be a guaranteed thing.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: forexandcryptoauditor on August 31, 2020, 10:12:10 PM
While working on the project for more than 3-4 weeks, the hunter gets confidence in the project based on the development and other project-related updates. If he or she feels that it is not worth holding, sell the coin. Even in this situation, hunters cant blame for price dump because 1% or less than that dump should not cause much impact to price. Projects like Cartesi, Sheng, SPYCE show potential for the future and are good examples of it.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: jajorforce on August 31, 2020, 10:28:07 PM
Well, i have a different opinion, because as a investor who buy low and sells high most times you cannot care if the project is bad or poor, you only care about the price of the token, With this regard, we can boldly state that bad projects can equal to massive bullish price which equals to good profits.

Do you agree with me ?
::) "bad project is equal to bad results."

Answer to your analysis, bad project give low exchange volume: this mean that, whenever the project stay good the results will be good because of the token volume. How then do you sell that token without a volume? Good project always come with good exchange volume but bad project give otherwise. In conclusion: good project will give profits while bad project will give bad results.
What do you think about a good project whose volume is good but price continuously dumps? The only reason I found it was the supply release. Insolar coin was listed on Binance exchange and had a good volume but now delisted from Binance and bithumb pro exchange. Supply increases from 500 million to 1 billion.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: chanc3r on August 31, 2020, 11:53:15 PM
everything is true because bounty hunters are only paid 1 to 2 percent of the total tokens that will be sold so it doesn't really matter with the bounty hunter If the project is good, of course there will be many traders so that token bounty that want to be directly bought by the trader
The traders can buy the tokens from the traders with the cheap price. In my opinion, if the reputation of the project will have determined the result of the token price. The hunters didn't give any impact for a good coin as it will always have a lot of volume and demand.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: lienfaye on September 01, 2020, 02:23:22 AM
While working on the project for more than 3-4 weeks, the hunter gets confidence in the project based on the development and other project-related updates. If he or she feels that it is not worth holding, sell the coin. Even in this situation, hunters cant blame for price dump because 1% or less than that dump should not cause much impact to price. Projects like Cartesi, Sheng, SPYCE show potential for the future and are good examples of it.
Well what we can expect on bad projects? Definitely bad results.
Its not surprising seeing the price dump then they will blame the hunters for it knowing that only 1-2% tokens are allocated to hunters.
We should not participate in shit projects and we can avoid it by doing our own research.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ttcsalam on September 01, 2020, 04:27:17 AM
Good projects don't always come.Projects that are good do not pay. So what is the way.Bad projects don't pay more.The bad project team is bad.
Everything is bad for those whose motives are bad.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: LouVandetta on September 01, 2020, 04:47:18 AM
While working on the project for more than 3-4 weeks, the hunter gets confidence in the project based on the development and other project-related updates. If he or she feels that it is not worth holding, sell the coin. Even in this situation, hunters cant blame for price dump because 1% or less than that dump should not cause much impact to price. Projects like Cartesi, Sheng, SPYCE show potential for the future and are good examples of it.
But it doesn't always shows good result at the end of the day. Indeed you can't really blame it all on bounty hunters if the prices were to be dumped and all since the allocation for bounty might be only a few percents from overall allocation. But selling those small percent at the same time might do the deed which could also make the price in decline even just a little. It's another story if the project had a solid price and a good market demands and everything.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: TIDOVEE on September 01, 2020, 05:14:03 AM
Thank you, there was a certain project like that too that after few people sold their coin, other people couldn't sell theirs till today, those who placed their token to be sold, the token got stocked, token were no where to be found, could that now be the fault of the hunters or should that be a way to pay them for the effort spent in promoting their project. It could be so annoying. 


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Fredomago on September 01, 2020, 06:23:59 AM
While working on the project for more than 3-4 weeks, the hunter gets confidence in the project based on the development and other project-related updates. If he or she feels that it is not worth holding, sell the coin. Even in this situation, hunters cant blame for price dump because 1% or less than that dump should not cause much impact to price. Projects like Cartesi, Sheng, SPYCE show potential for the future and are good examples of it.
Well what we can expect on bad projects? Definitely bad results.
Its not surprising seeing the price dump then they will blame the hunters for it knowing that only 1-2% tokens are allocated to hunters.
We should not participate in shit projects and we can avoid it by doing our own research.

That's the effective way to avoid certain participation, doing your research and make sure to understand the potentials of the projects.

There are so many project that circulating around where mostly the team blames the bounty
participants for dumping the rewards that they've received which supposedly shouldn't affects
the project as the allocated rewards is part of the marketing, if the team is really doing their job
this dumped can be avoided, they can easily buy those coin and let the project to stay surviving
to attract more investors.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Eco_111 on September 01, 2020, 08:07:23 AM
You have to figure that out yourself, not all new projects are good and now that people (scammers) are finding ways to make money off new projects they will always set their traps around every corner of crypto space, make sure you do research on new projects very well


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: cryptoknightt on September 01, 2020, 08:57:26 AM
Thank you, there was a certain project like that too that after few people sold their coin, other people couldn't sell theirs till today, those who placed their token to be sold, the token got stocked, token were no where to be found, could that now be the fault of the hunters or should that be a way to pay them for the effort spent in promoting their project. It could be so annoying. 


some projects do indeed do this, but many also pay even though a little but still get paid.
than you have a big estimate but can't sell the token.
Few people who already know how to assess projects can tell the difference between good and bad projects, a skill that is needed here.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Psynthax on September 01, 2020, 10:09:55 AM
While working on the project for more than 3-4 weeks, the hunter gets confidence in the project based on the development and other project-related updates. If he or she feels that it is not worth holding, sell the coin. Even in this situation, hunters cant blame for price dump because 1% or less than that dump should not cause much impact to price. Projects like Cartesi, Sheng, SPYCE show potential for the future and are good examples of it.
But it doesn't always shows good result at the end of the day. Indeed you can't really blame it all on bounty hunters if the prices were to be dumped and all since the allocation for bounty might be only a few percents from overall allocation. But selling those small percent at the same time might do the deed which could also make the price in decline even just a little. It's another story if the project had a solid price and a good market demands and everything.
Yeah. but, nowadays bounty rewards released gradually also some of the projects have switched to use stablecoin instead to control the price. if the project is solid as you said there would be many buying demands coming and fill up all the sell orders. it's actually a project with relatively low demands that suffer the most because there just not enough people to buy and you need to know that although bounty hunter might contribute the developer have total control over the distribution there the developers could do some designed distribution to lower the chance of dumping.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: ghost424 on September 01, 2020, 10:43:37 AM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off

That's always true since if those projects are just made for the sake of them gaining profit, the value will be so bad that Bounty Hunters wont gain any profit from it. That is why some Bounty Managers make sure that whatever Bounty they are managing is sure to agree to their end that they will keep developing and do their best to entice people to use their platform.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Republikcoin.com on September 01, 2020, 10:51:22 AM
As far as I know, a bad project will indeed be seen in the quality of the token. but we cannot judge a project just because it was dumped at the beginning, because it could happen because the product is not ready. Some projects were dumped due to bounty hunters, but a few months later the price returned to normal. however, a really serious team, and have a good strategy can keep the token price even higher. it's just that, the quality of a project can sometimes be judged when nobody is interested in the coins they own, and they even list on bad exchanges.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Captain Corporate on September 01, 2020, 12:05:44 PM

 Bad projects stems from the bad team most importantly. If there is a team that is horrible, like maybe a scammer team, or even a bunch of idiots who want to do something but fail, they all result with bad results. I have been part of each of them, I have seen scammer people from the first days and I have seen idiots who want to build something but don't know how and they had zero clue how to do marketing as well, my main job is marketing so I know what I am talking about and I can tell you that they had zero clue how they should have done it.

 In any case, bad team equals bad results, projects could be great ideas or great white paper or great road map but in the end if the team is bad, all of those greats negated by the bad team and the result will always be bad, there is no way around it, you have to have a great owner and awesome staff to make it work in this crypto space, it is not easy to make it work otherwise no matter how cool other stuff are.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: Keeng Daveed on September 01, 2020, 12:22:58 PM
Yeah, hunters are not to be blamed, most of these campaign and projects that run loss and ruin at the end lacks good investors and so if this continues it will keep being the disadvantage.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: chikator on September 01, 2020, 01:34:03 PM
This makes obvious sense. But the sad part is, the projects that disappoint you the most are the most promising projects on paper. Its harder to judge a project especially if they have all these potential just to leave it hanging.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: TastyChillySauce00 on September 01, 2020, 02:00:14 PM
Liquidity and the availability of buy demands plays major role. You don't expect the market to be overflowed with the massive selling while there's literally no one to buy the coin and thinking it will be just fine. Ofcourse, the price will be dumped so hard if the case above happens.
Sometimes, bounty hunter also need to restrain themselves from dumping the project they worked hard to promote and in this case, the project also tested whether the project has value in the eyes of people in the market or not because as you said, a good project not gonna ruined that easily.


Title: Re: Bad projects equals Bad results
Post by: blckhawk on September 01, 2020, 02:21:20 PM
This makes me remember Tokoin and tachyon protocol bounty campaign, after hunters are paid they made huge profits from this bounties and still the value are rising and not dumped, so my question is why are other bounties getting ruined after launch? Or after hunters sell their rewards? Probably because they are bad projects, hunters aren't to be blame here isn't it? Good projects will never dumped because hunters sell off
You were right. I don't think a certain token will be ruined just because of hunters sell it off, because no matter they sell as long as there are investors or simply buyers this will keep going. And perhaps that what the other token doesn't have. I remember way back 2017 in the surge of ICO, most of the tokens I received have been usually sold them right away as soon as they get listed and I don't know why either perhaps I have my instinct that this will dump later on. Guess what, I nailed it, the coin totally crushed, in fact, some of the tokens I've got have still in my wallet.