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Title: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: allthingsluxury on March 16, 2020, 02:57:24 PM
https://i.imgur.com/mMrympx.png (https://medium.com/@goldsilverfinancialnews/coronavirus-quarantines-are-coming-what-to-stock-up-on-now-before-its-too-late-dc75f695b1ce)

"This is not hype, this is not hysteria, this is the cold hard truth and the reality that we now find ourselves in, quarantines, restrictions, travel bans are coming to North America, to the World and if you don’t prepare now, you may be horribly caught off guard in regards to what is coming next.

I have been working in the financial industry for over a decade, with my specialty being geopolitics, political upheaval and precious metals.

This has led me to learn first hand about what can unfold during various forms of panic, collapse and general unrest. Unfortunately, we are about to enter into one of these periods of time.

Those who are tuned into the zeitgeist of what is unfolding have already been preparing, have already stocked up and will generally weather the coming storm without any financial or personally ramifications.
You too can do so and will likely make it through to the other side largely unscathed, however, your window of opportunity is sadly running out rapidly.

If you have not prepared in any way, shape or form, you need to do so as soon as possible. You may have less than a week to act.
At the very least, ensure you have the following..."


Click here to read more:

https://medium.com/@goldsilverfinancialnews/coronavirus-quarantines-are-coming-what-to-stock-up-on-now-before-its-too-late-dc75f695b1ce


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: Astargath on March 16, 2020, 07:54:49 PM
Quarantine doesn't mean you don't have access to food mate. You don't need to buy a ton of crap now for no reason.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: af_newbie on March 16, 2020, 09:01:38 PM
Quarantine doesn't mean you don't have access to food mate. You don't need to buy a ton of crap now for no reason.

You are assuming the supply chains will continue working.

Even if you can buy food, you should limit the number of trips you make to the store.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: Astargath on March 16, 2020, 09:06:58 PM
Quarantine doesn't mean you don't have access to food mate. You don't need to buy a ton of crap now for no reason.

You are assuming the supply chains will continue working.

Even if you can buy food, you should limit the number of trips you make to the store.


Here in Spain it's a national lockdown but you can still go to the grocery store and they are making sure they continue working.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: TECSHARE on March 16, 2020, 09:13:58 PM
Quarantine doesn't mean you don't have access to food mate. You don't need to buy a ton of crap now for no reason.

That is a bold assumption.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: Astargath on March 16, 2020, 11:13:28 PM
Quarantine doesn't mean you don't have access to food mate. You don't need to buy a ton of crap now for no reason.

That is a bold assumption.

It's not an assumption, we are under quarantine here in Spain and everyone has access to food. You can go to work as well.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: TECSHARE on March 17, 2020, 04:24:04 AM
It's not an assumption, we are under quarantine here in Spain and everyone has access to food. You can go to work as well.

And the past guarantees the future does it?


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: squatz1 on March 17, 2020, 06:02:25 AM
One of the biggest problems here is that certain companies are not going to be able to keep up supply and they're not going to increase supply as they know that this demand boost is temporary. I'm going to use the stupid example of toilet paper for a second, just for examples sake.

Think of toilet paper companies for a second, they're not going to want to want to increase supply massively to keep up with demand because there is most likely a large amount of money that would go into increasing supply. This sort of demand increase isn't from something that's sustainable -- like a population increase -- it's from something which isn't, which is a crisis that will end at some point. This means that at a certain point, if this goes on for long enough, stores are going to run out of certain products (maybe not toilet paper in particular, but yeah) and they're not going to be replenished very swiftly because the companies dont want to waste product if this ends abruptly (as it could, we're literally day by day at the moment)

That's my little take on the matter.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: Astargath on March 17, 2020, 10:47:56 AM
It's not an assumption, we are under quarantine here in Spain and everyone has access to food. You can go to work as well.

And the past guarantees the future does it?

The standard procedure states that you are allowed to buy food, go to hospitals or even work when in quarantine like the current one. Unless your government goes nuts and tries to become a dictatorship, you will be fine.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: tvbcof on March 17, 2020, 02:34:30 PM
Quarantine doesn't mean you don't have access to food mate. You don't need to buy a ton of crap now for no reason.

Even if one does truly love Big Brother and there is no doubt in one's mind that He will always provide by turning water into wine or keeping your car running for 7 days on one day's worth of diesel...

...one can buy non-perishable stuff that one is eventually going to use just to hedge against inflation.  Laundry soap, plastic bags, etc, etc.  These things can also make good trading stock or simply be given away to a neighbor who was less prepared just in case Big Bro doesn't live up to one's expectations.



Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: Astargath on March 17, 2020, 02:49:23 PM
Quarantine doesn't mean you don't have access to food mate. You don't need to buy a ton of crap now for no reason.

Even if one does truly love Big Brother and there is no doubt in one's mind that He will always provide by turning water into wine or keeping your car running for 7 days on one day's worth of diesel...

...one can buy non-perishable stuff that one is eventually going to use just to hedge against inflation.  Laundry soap, plastic bags, etc, etc.  These things can also make good trading stock or simply be given away to a neighbor who was less prepared just in case Big Bro doesn't live up to one's expectations.



Yeah, let's buy all the toilet paper like idiots so older people and others who didn't have access to stores can't buy any.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: suchmoon on March 17, 2020, 03:07:26 PM
One of the biggest problems here is that certain companies are not going to be able to keep up supply and they're not going to increase supply as they know that this demand boost is temporary. I'm going to use the stupid example of toilet paper for a second, just for examples sake.

Toilet paper is not something people start using more because there is a crisis. So once everyone fills up their basement/garage/whatever with it - hoarding will taper off. If I was a TP mogul I'd be planning to reduce the supply in a few months.

On the other hand (pun intended), hand sanitizer, anti-bacterial wipes, even soap - these items will probably experience higher demand for quite a while. An increase in supply could be needed and could be quite profitable for those companies that can do it.

Food items probably fall somewhere in between. You can hoard only so much canned food, but groceries in general will be in higher demand in places where restaurants are closed.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: erikalui on March 17, 2020, 03:22:38 PM
I hoarded food supply for 2-3 weeks but can't keep hoarding more than that. And perishable items don't even last for 3 weeks (mostly a week or more). I have medicines too.

Grocery shops are already 90% empty so looks like all people have successfully prepared themselves for quarantine before a lockdown is declared.



Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: tvbcof on March 17, 2020, 04:25:33 PM
Quarantine doesn't mean you don't have access to food mate. You don't need to buy a ton of crap now for no reason.

Even if one does truly love Big Brother and there is no doubt in one's mind that He will always provide by turning water into wine or keeping your car running for 7 days on one day's worth of diesel...

...one can buy non-perishable stuff that one is eventually going to use just to hedge against inflation.  Laundry soap, plastic bags, etc, etc.  These things can also make good trading stock or simply be given away to a neighbor who was less prepared just in case Big Bro doesn't live up to one's expectations.


Yeah, let's buy all the toilet paper like idiots so older people and others who didn't have access to stores can't buy any.

Actually, let's buy toilet paper and, like decent people, to give away as needed before the profiteer slimeballs who wish to mark it up and sell it at inflated prices get it all.

Oh I forgot.  Your beloved Big Brother, by micro-managing 'the collective', is the one who will handle that.  Don't need or want some mere decent individual stepping on His toes, right?




Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: KingScorpio on March 17, 2020, 05:14:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/mMrympx.png (https://medium.com/@goldsilverfinancialnews/coronavirus-quarantines-are-coming-what-to-stock-up-on-now-before-its-too-late-dc75f695b1ce)

"This is not hype, this is not hysteria, this is the cold hard truth and the reality that we now find ourselves in, quarantines, restrictions, travel bans are coming to North America, to the World and if you don’t prepare now, you may be horribly caught off guard in regards to what is coming next.

I have been working in the financial industry for over a decade, with my specialty being geopolitics, political upheaval and precious metals.

This has led me to learn first hand about what can unfold during various forms of panic, collapse and general unrest. Unfortunately, we are about to enter into one of these periods of time.

Those who are tuned into the zeitgeist of what is unfolding have already been preparing, have already stocked up and will generally weather the coming storm without any financial or personally ramifications.
You too can do so and will likely make it through to the other side largely unscathed, however, your window of opportunity is sadly running out rapidly.

If you have not prepared in any way, shape or form, you need to do so as soon as possible. You may have less than a week to act.
At the very least, ensure you have the following..."


Click here to read more:

https://medium.com/@goldsilverfinancialnews/coronavirus-quarantines-are-coming-what-to-stock-up-on-now-before-its-too-late-dc75f695b1ce


this is all pointless actionism


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: TECSHARE on March 17, 2020, 05:36:56 PM
The standard procedure states that you are allowed to buy food, go to hospitals or even work when in quarantine like the current one. Unless your government goes nuts and tries to become a dictatorship, you will be fine.

What good does being "allowed" to buy food do you if there is none to buy because the supply chain shut down, or because it is prohibitively expensive?


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: Astargath on March 17, 2020, 06:18:13 PM
The standard procedure states that you are allowed to buy food, go to hospitals or even work when in quarantine like the current one. Unless your government goes nuts and tries to become a dictatorship, you will be fine.

What good does being "allowed" to buy food do you if there is none to buy because the supply chain shut down, or because it is prohibitively expensive?

Here, the government has stated that the supply chains will continue working, at least at a national level and will not shut down. It is also illegal to massively pump up the prices of basic and needed items for humans.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: tvbcof on March 17, 2020, 06:36:03 PM
The standard procedure states that you are allowed to buy food, go to hospitals or even work when in quarantine like the current one. Unless your government goes nuts and tries to become a dictatorship, you will be fine.

What good does being "allowed" to buy food do you if there is none to buy because the supply chain shut down, or because it is prohibitively expensive?

Here, the government has stated that the supply chains will continue working, at least at a national level and will not shut down. It is also illegal to massively pump up the prices of basic and needed items for humans.

Well how nice for you!


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Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: TECSHARE on March 17, 2020, 06:59:28 PM
Here, the government has stated that the supply chains will continue working, at least at a national level and will not shut down. It is also illegal to massively pump up the prices of basic and needed items for humans.

Well that is great news then! Everyone knows the government never lies, is never incompetent, and doesn't ever fall short of its promises!


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: BADecker on March 17, 2020, 08:50:03 PM
Here, the government has stated that the supply chains will continue working, at least at a national level and will not shut down. It is also illegal to massively pump up the prices of basic and needed items for humans.

Well that is great news then! Everyone knows the government never lies, is never incompetent, and doesn't ever fall short of its promises!

And I had thught we didn't have to worry about this until Bernie got elected.

 :-\


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: squatz1 on March 17, 2020, 10:08:48 PM
One of the biggest problems here is that certain companies are not going to be able to keep up supply and they're not going to increase supply as they know that this demand boost is temporary. I'm going to use the stupid example of toilet paper for a second, just for examples sake.

Toilet paper is not something people start using more because there is a crisis. So once everyone fills up their basement/garage/whatever with it - hoarding will taper off. If I was a TP mogul I'd be planning to reduce the supply in a few months.

On the other hand (pun intended), hand sanitizer, anti-bacterial wipes, even soap - these items will probably experience higher demand for quite a while. An increase in supply could be needed and could be quite profitable for those companies that can do it.

Food items probably fall somewhere in between. You can hoard only so much canned food, but groceries in general will be in higher demand in places where restaurants are closed.

Oh yeah, you're most likely right when it comes to the toilet paper portion of things.

Though yes, hand sanitizer, wipes, soap, etc are going to have a higher demand for a little while -- but people are going to be unsure of how long that is going to last. That's what is going to cause these companies to be a little reserved about increasing supply so quickly. Gradual stuff yeah, but these companies don't want to be sitting on an abundance of product because they thought this was going to be horrible for years.s


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: suchmoon on March 17, 2020, 10:20:06 PM
Here's an interesting one: cheap freezers are sold out, and I mean seriously sold out... backordered for 2-3 months.

So what kind of apocalypse are we expecting? It looks like one where food will supposedly run out but lights will stay on as will the freezer full of frozen lasagna.

Generators don't seem to be sold out BTW.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: bones261 on March 17, 2020, 10:26:42 PM
Here's an interesting one: cheap freezers are sold out, and I mean seriously sold out... backordered for 2-3 months.

So what kind of apocalypse are we expecting? It looks like one where food will supposedly run out but lights will stay on as will the freezer full of frozen lasagna.

Generators don't seem to be sold out BTW.

Give people some time to think things over. I'm sure generators are the next item to be hoarded up. Also, I'm sure the produce section will be ravaged next when people discover the joys of pickling and canning.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: desertfox470 on March 17, 2020, 10:41:34 PM
Here's an interesting one: cheap freezers are sold out, and I mean seriously sold out... backordered for 2-3 months.

So what kind of apocalypse are we expecting? It looks like one where food will supposedly run out but lights will stay on as will the freezer full of frozen lasagna.

Generators don't seem to be sold out BTW.
I think people should just be buying dehydrated type of food rather than buying freezers and stuff to put in them. If shit really would hit the fan then I have a feeling the electric would go out. Generators also aren't supposed to run non stop unless its some kind of commercial grade.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: LTU_btc on March 17, 2020, 10:53:52 PM
I don't think buying food like crazy is very smart idea. For me it looks like people are preparing for World War III or plague. Offcourse this virus is dangerous, but people exaggerate it and fall into panic, mainly thanks to news media. Groceries won't be closed and we will be able to get food. Offcourse, there may be lack of some products because borders are closed and supply will be slower.
Offcourse I have prepared long lasting food at home (I always have), but obviously I don't keep full basement of it.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: suchmoon on March 17, 2020, 11:39:36 PM
Give people some time to think things over. I'm sure generators are the next item to be hoarded up. Also, I'm sure the produce section will be ravaged next when people discover the joys of pickling and canning.

I was hoping that this shit would slow down once the hoarders max out their credit cards but Trump is planning to give everyone $1000 so this might last a little longer.

I got a grocery order to pick up tomorrow (nothing special, regular weekly shopping list) and I'm guessing half of the stuff will be out of stock... so now I'm thinking I should increase the quantities just in case LOL.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: tippytoes on March 17, 2020, 11:45:53 PM
Give people some time to think things over. I'm sure generators are the next item to be hoarded up. Also, I'm sure the produce section will be ravaged next when people discover the joys of pickling and canning.

I was hoping that this shit would slow down once the hoarders max out their credit cards but Trump is planning to give everyone $1000 so this might last a little longer.

I got a grocery order to pick up tomorrow (nothing special, regular weekly shopping list) and I'm guessing half of the stuff will be out of stock... so now I'm thinking I should increase the quantities just in case LOL.

So after all, these US survivalists are right all along. And actually, it is already being experienced in those areas that are in total lockdown like in Wuhan. Better prepare than sorry.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/how-americas-extreme-survivalists-are-preparing-for-a-worst-case-coronavirus-epidemic-beans-bullets-and-band-aids-2020-03-02


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: KonstantinosM on March 18, 2020, 12:24:30 AM
As someone who works at a Grocery store, we're not gonna shut down, this isn't a hurricane, most of the problem is a sudden spike in people buying everything.

We'll restock. This isn't the end of the world so don't act like it.

People will run out of room soon enough. It happens with hurricanes too, people buy a ton of shit. Then the crisis passes and they buy less shit for a while.

As for me, even though I work in a store, I hate shopping so I do it in bulk. I haven't needed to buy a single grain of rice because of covid-19, a few months ago I bought 3 cases of ramen (48 packs) of which I still have 2 and a half cases. I have lots and lots of canned tuna and enough rice for months. Also I have oil, sugar and flour and toilet paper enough to last me a year. I also have bottled water for weeks among other things.

I always keep some supplies and cycle through them so I don't have to restock hard for every single hurricane season.





Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: squatz1 on March 18, 2020, 12:47:22 AM
Talking about Quarantines and curefews coming soon, just saw some info on NYC. NYC's Mayor, Bill DeBlasio, just stated that they may soon follow San Francisco and issue a shelter in place order to all people who live in NYC. In simple terms, this means that residents would be prohibited, by law, from leaving their homes except under limited circumstances -- these would include going to work, doctor, grocery store, etc.


https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/17/new-yorkers-should-be-prepared-for-a-shelter-in-place-order-mayor-bill-de-blasio-says.html

This is the craziest news to me, though I did see a few upstate NY towns already establishing a curfew of around 10pm -- pretty much to stop the night life. NYC already has social gathering places -- bars, restaurants, etc closing at like 9-10? (they can deliver food all night though)


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: bones261 on March 18, 2020, 12:54:01 AM
As someone who works at a Grocery store, we're not gonna shut down, this isn't a hurricane, most of the problem is a sudden spike in people buying everything.

We'll restock. This isn't the end of the world so don't act like it.

People will run out of room soon enough. It happens with hurricanes too, people buy a ton of shit. Then the crisis passes and they buy less shit for a while.

As for me, even though I work in a store, I hate shopping so I do it in bulk. I haven't needed to buy a single grain of rice because of covid-19, a few months ago I bought 3 cases of ramen (48 packs) of which I still have 2 and a half cases. I have lots and lots of canned tuna and enough rice for months. Also I have oil, sugar and flour and toilet paper enough to last me a year. I also have bottled water for weeks among other things.

I always keep some supplies and cycle through them so I don't have to restock hard for every single hurricane season.





I guess I am spoiled because I live in a landlocked state. The worse that we usually get around here would be a blizzard. Usually, this only causes a disruption for a few days at most, so when people stock up before the storm, they usually only need to make sure they have their weekly supply.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: squatz1 on March 18, 2020, 12:55:52 AM
Give people some time to think things over. I'm sure generators are the next item to be hoarded up. Also, I'm sure the produce section will be ravaged next when people discover the joys of pickling and canning.

I was hoping that this shit would slow down once the hoarders max out their credit cards but Trump is planning to give everyone $1000 so this might last a little longer.

I got a grocery order to pick up tomorrow (nothing special, regular weekly shopping list) and I'm guessing half of the stuff will be out of stock... so now I'm thinking I should increase the quantities just in case LOL.

Is this what's actually being reported on right now? I hadn't seen any numbers up to this point, but I really want to read into the specifics of a program like this. Seems a bit weird to say you're giving every American that amount of money, but not flesh out EXACTLY who is going to be receiving it (in this proposed plan, as nothing is official at the moment)


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: suchmoon on March 18, 2020, 02:06:32 AM
Is this what's actually being reported on right now? I hadn't seen any numbers up to this point, but I really want to read into the specifics of a program like this. Seems a bit weird to say you're giving every American that amount of money, but not flesh out EXACTLY who is going to be receiving it (in this proposed plan, as nothing is official at the moment)

No specifics yet but I think it's quite likely it will happen, given that Republicans want to bribe the voters before the election and Democrats like handing money out in general...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-4/

Quote
Q    There’s been talk about 1,000-dollar checks to every American.  Increasing support among Republicans and some Democrats for that.  Would you support that going to everyone?  Or would you support some sort of income restriction on who gets a check?

SECRETARY MNUCHIN:  Well, I think it’s clear: We don’t need to send people who make a million dollars a year checks.  Okay?  But we like — that’s one of the ideas we like.  We’re going to preview that today, and then we’ll be talking about details afterwards.

THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think — I think we’re going to do something that gets money to them as quickly as possible.  That may not be an accurate way of doing it, because obviously some people shouldn’t be getting checks for $1,000.  And we’ll have a pretty good idea by the end of the day, what we’re going to be doing.


Title: Re: Coronavirus Quarantines Are Coming, What to Stock Up on Now Before It’s Too Late
Post by: squatz1 on March 18, 2020, 05:39:15 PM
Is this what's actually being reported on right now? I hadn't seen any numbers up to this point, but I really want to read into the specifics of a program like this. Seems a bit weird to say you're giving every American that amount of money, but not flesh out EXACTLY who is going to be receiving it (in this proposed plan, as nothing is official at the moment)

No specifics yet but I think it's quite likely it will happen, given that Republicans want to bribe the voters before the election and Democrats like handing money out in general...

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-4/

Quote
Q    There’s been talk about 1,000-dollar checks to every American.  Increasing support among Republicans and some Democrats for that.  Would you support that going to everyone?  Or would you support some sort of income restriction on who gets a check?

SECRETARY MNUCHIN:  Well, I think it’s clear: We don’t need to send people who make a million dollars a year checks.  Okay?  But we like — that’s one of the ideas we like.  We’re going to preview that today, and then we’ll be talking about details afterwards.

THE PRESIDENT:  Well, I think — I think we’re going to do something that gets money to them as quickly as possible.  That may not be an accurate way of doing it, because obviously some people shouldn’t be getting checks for $1,000.  And we’ll have a pretty good idea by the end of the day, what we’re going to be doing.

Pretty much exactly what I was thinking. I'd like to point out that if Obama tried to do this (and I know that he did pass certain stimulus packages after the great recession) the Republicans would've been up in arms saying that this wasn't fiscally responsible and that the country wouldn't be able to afford it.

Crazy how things change so quickly.