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Title: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Little Mouse on March 28, 2020, 02:48:15 AM
I am not talking about the website  ;D I know Vod own this website for a long time now. But I just have seen an account bpip.org, who own the account. This account is active in altcoin section and that's what surprise me most.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2647943
I doubt Vod is the one. If not, will it be good idea to tag the account? Because people may not know and I may forget in future too.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: hacker1001101001 on March 28, 2020, 02:53:48 AM
A neutral tag indicating the account having no affiliation with the real bpip.org would be an wise idea. On other side it's noting of an high risk though.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Vod on March 28, 2020, 02:59:57 AM
I am not talking about the website  ;D I know Vod own this website for a long time now.

I built the website, but it's owned by the BPIP Team.

That account bpip.org is not affiliated with me, so I will tag it.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 28, 2020, 05:53:31 AM
I wonder what is the purpose of creating that account? Most people participating in altcoins are not interested in BPIP and the ratings are there. Altcoins are primarily for spammers and bounty hunters, of course they only care about bonuses, not relevant ranking information. I also don't see any benefits around that name, abuse, fraud, .. not possible  ::)


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Lauda on March 28, 2020, 06:31:33 AM
A neutral tag indicating the account having no affiliation with the real bpip.org would be an wise idea. On other side it's noting of an high risk though.
Never in the history of this forum have impersonators received neutral ratings for trying to defraud somebody else.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 28, 2020, 06:32:39 AM
I think this account is an impersonator. Since vod already tag so I think its reasonable. Because may be some users would think that Bpip.org is official account of website and they might get scam since there is opportunity to advertise on the website and could ask for donations as well. I don't know what would be exact reason except abuse to use a username of a website which is most popular on the forum and that website owner is an established user.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: hacker1001101001 on March 28, 2020, 06:43:10 AM
A neutral tag indicating the account having no affiliation with the real bpip.org would be an wise idea. On other side it's noting of an high risk though.
Never in the history of this forum have impersonators received neutral ratings for trying to defraud somebody else.

By looking at his post history I don't think he attempted to scam anyone or defraud. But I could understand your negative viewing of every situation due to your inner negativity. Quite an characteristic of evil.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 28, 2020, 07:16:55 AM
By looking at his post history I don't think he attempted to scam anyone or defraud. But I could understand your negative viewing of every situation due to your inner negativity. Quite an characteristic of evil.
Considering the angle of the scammers, he only has a few posts, it will be difficult for many people to trust him. By being more active, he will build his activity history, because no one wants to trust new accounts. It may be a workaround if using the name of BPIP, but I don't know what BPIP's name will do to cheat or scam  ::) Advertise on BPIP?


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: LoyceV on March 28, 2020, 08:35:39 AM
By looking at his post history I don't think he attempted to scam anyone or defraud.
It's better to give him negative trust for impersonating someone now, than when he ranked up his account. User "bpip.org" has nothing to lose now and can just create another account if he wants to become a productive forum member.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Bpip.org on March 28, 2020, 08:45:15 AM
I am not the person you think, I am alone and do not intend to deceive anyone.
I came here to clarify this issue.
anyone, ask your serious questions.

txs: bpip.org


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: OgNasty on March 28, 2020, 09:21:18 AM
I am not the person you think, I am alone and do not intend to deceive anyone.
I came here to clarify this issue.
anyone, ask your serious questions.

txs: bpip.org


Why did you choose that name? The only logical explanation I can think of is that you were name squatting and hoping to sell the account to operators of the website in the future. Seems like impersonation when you started posting from it though. That crosses the line in my opinion. You should have just sat on the name and waited to be contacted, which would’ve kept you at least in the realm of a grey area.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Lauda on March 28, 2020, 09:43:49 AM
A neutral tag indicating the account having no affiliation with the real bpip.org would be an wise idea. On other side it's noting of an high risk though.
Never in the history of this forum have impersonators received neutral ratings for trying to defraud somebody else.
By looking at his post history I don't think he attempted to scam anyone or defraud. But I could understand your negative viewing of every situation due to your inner negativity. Quite an characteristic of evil.
Right, if I create an account called Lauda2 we should leave me neutral until I actually scam somebody? Good policy. Very intelligent. Monkeys rule.

Why did you choose that name? The only logical explanation I can think of is that you were name squatting and hoping to sell the account to operators of the website in the future. Seems like impersonation when you started posting from it though. That crosses the line in my opinion. You should have just sat on the name and waited to be contacted, which would’ve kept you at least in the realm of a grey area.
That is it. We should never allow anyone do to this, regardless of their "pure intentions" bullshit.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on March 28, 2020, 12:37:49 PM
By looking at his post history I don't think he attempted to scam anyone or defraud.
"bpip.org" is not a name someone has chosen at random. He is obviously well aware of what the site is and what it does, as well as its good reputation around the forum. What reason, then, would he have to impersonate it? He wants to leech off the good reputation that the site has built, or wants people to think he is somehow affiliated or linked with the site. Either way, it's untrustworthy, regardless of whether or not he has tried to leverage it yet.

There are plenty of accounts which have been preemptively left red tags by theymos or members of the moderator team for impersonating other members or sites. This is nothing new.

therymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=392907)
theyomos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=392326)
theyamos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=389841)
theymnos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=384341)
theynnos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=366380)
theylmos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=403365)
thkeymos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=502032)

Tomtatocage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=545023)

.BITMAIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=544963)
`BITMAIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=544956)
BITMAIN - (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=551187)


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: hacker1001101001 on March 28, 2020, 01:33:52 PM
I am not the person you think, I am alone and do not intend to deceive anyone.
I came here to clarify this issue.
anyone, ask your serious questions.

txs: bpip.org


OgNasty already asked the most serious question here.

Why did you choose that name?

I would suggest you dumping this account and going with some other more attractive username as there are many.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: suchmoon on March 28, 2020, 02:06:05 PM
Thanks everyone for taking care of the impersonator. Not a huge risk but it'd be quite bad to have this dingleberry start asking for donations or something.

Vod own this website for a long time now

Vod created and owned and developed the site until ~ December 2019. Since then ibminer and myself took over (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213618.0). Just making it clear so that y'all don't blame Vod for any bugs... those are 100% our responsibility now :)


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: AB de Royse777 on March 28, 2020, 02:54:22 PM
A neutral tag indicating the account having no affiliation with the real bpip.org would be an wise idea. On other side it's noting of an high risk though.
Never in the history of this forum have impersonators received neutral ratings for trying to defraud somebody else.

By looking at his post history I don't think he attempted to scam anyone or defraud. But I could understand your negative viewing of every situation due to your inner negativity. Quite an characteristic of evil.
I don't give negative very easily not positive too. But here I also felt that negative is appropriate. You may not know but using the brand image of a well-known name would be very easy for someone else to do some wrong doing.

Good job OP for spotting it.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: JollyGood on March 28, 2020, 03:12:05 PM
Impersonators deserve negative feedback. It is hard to see any other option unless there are exceptional circumstances. I see nothing exceptional here that could justify anything else therefore I have left negative tag too.

Never in the history of this forum have impersonators received neutral ratings for trying to defraud somebody else.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: ibminer on March 28, 2020, 03:12:14 PM
Ya, this guy is definitely not affiliated with bpip.org and is obviously up to something. Thanks for pointing this out, Little Mouse.

Vod created and owned and developed the site until ~ December 2019. Since then ibminer and myself took over (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5213618.0). Just making it clear so that y'all don't blame Vod for any bugs... those are 100% our responsibility now :)

For full disclosure, I began working with Vod as a designer starting around April of 2018. A lot of work was put in from Vod to create and develop BPIP from the beginning, which I think began sometime in 2016? (Vod can correct me if I'm wrong here!). A lot of work has been put in by all, including suchmoon and myself.. which, for me, has made it a fun project to work on, as it has become a team effort and has consistently been improved upon.. not to mention the community support & suggestions/bug reports, which keeps our to-do lists active and opens up additional room for improvements, on top of the planned improvements already slated! :)

https://i.imgflip.com/1s6d2s.jpg
 ;D


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Findingnemo on March 28, 2020, 03:53:44 PM
I am not the person you think, I am alone and do not intend to deceive anyone.
I came here to clarify this issue.
anyone, ask your serious questions.

txs: bpip.org

But it seems you are an impersonator with the name you have chosen while creating this account.

DO you have any reasons why you choose this name?

If it was just random then you can ask for name change to theymos then you can get rid of this red tag rain. :)


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: teeGUMES on March 28, 2020, 06:35:37 PM
actually he is part of our team in the future, you all should know and not cover your own face.
don't corner him, even some of you have been part of us before.
Thats great you're a team and all but please answer what benefit to the community you are providing by sitting on names of companies/websites/providers that are not part of your team?


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: teeGUMES on March 28, 2020, 07:10:00 PM
actually he is part of our team in the future, you all should know and not cover your own face.
don't corner him, even some of you have been part of us before.
Thats great you're a team and all but please answer what benefit to the community you are providing by sitting on names of companies/websites/providers that are not part of your team?
You will know it all after someone around you says it here.
see and watch hot.
Thank you, I will eagerly watch the Scam Accusations board for more mention of your team hot.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: suchmoon on March 28, 2020, 07:12:05 PM
actually he is part of our team in the future, you all should know and not cover your own face.
don't corner him, even some of you have been part of us before.

What is it, a team of squatters? Please come up with your own name(s) for your team and/or its members. I'm guessing this account is not affiliated with Facebook either.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: JollyGood on March 28, 2020, 09:00:44 PM
I never understood the concept of name squatting to be anything other than for those responsible for doing it to either make mischief or for them to be looking for a way to make money by selling those squatted names to people they could associate with. Why else would people do it?


actually he is part of our team in the future, you all should know and not cover your own face.
don't corner him, even some of you have been part of us before.

What is it, a team of squatters? Please come up with your own name(s) for your team and/or its members. I'm guessing this account is not affiliated with Facebook either.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Little Mouse on March 29, 2020, 02:38:01 AM
A neutral tag indicating the account having no affiliation with the real bpip.org would be an wise idea. On other side it's noting of an high risk though.
If the account posted in meta, bitcoin discussion, he can gain the trust that he is from bpip project. I wouldn not doubt even if I did not see him in altcoin discussion. In that case, I would be the fool to trust him. I am sure that I would not be the only one. That's why a negative tag is more correct here. He was clearly an impersonator and it could bring a great loss to someone.

Not a huge risk but it'd be quite bad to have this dingleberry start asking for donations or something.
May be he has already asked or may be not but if he would use a bitcoin address in his profile, someone would send donation to that address too by knowing that it is original bpip account.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: fortunecrypto on March 29, 2020, 03:14:17 AM
Impersonators deserve negative feedback. It is hard to see any other option unless there are exceptional circumstances. I see nothing exceptional here that could justify anything else therefore I have left negative tag too.

Never in the history of this forum have impersonators received neutral ratings for trying to defraud somebody else.

So many scams comes from impersonating the administrators of projects, and the telegram channels are full of people imitating the developers of a certain to scam newbies, he has a bad intentional from the start by creating a brand that he is not part of it, it's good that he has a negative so people will know and be warn.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: ChuckBuck on March 29, 2020, 04:39:00 AM
actually he is part of our team in the future, you all should know and not cover your own face.
don't corner him, even some of you have been part of us before.
Ahaaaaaaaaaaaaaa.... It means organized fraud  :D So, what will your team do or provide to this forum? It must be something related to BPIP, a few factors related to the display, huh? Maybe recognition score? LoL  :D You should get another negative feedback with content: cheating with the team  :D


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Vod on March 29, 2020, 04:53:12 AM
For full disclosure, I began working with Vod as a designer starting around April of 2018. A lot of work was put in from Vod to create and develop BPIP from the beginning, which I think began sometime in 2016? (Vod can correct me if I'm wrong here!). A lot of work has been put in by all, including suchmoon and myself.. which, for me, has made it a fun project to work on, as it has become a team effort and has consistently been improved upon.. not to mention the community support & suggestions/bug reports, which keeps our to-do lists active and opens up additional room for improvements, on top of the planned improvements already slated! :)

It was fun, and I missed it when I started on my new project.  I'm still finding little bits of BPIP info everywhere on my computer.  You and SM were so great in teaching me concepts and although I never did learn CSS, I know enough to contract out for it!  To think if I had never been hacked we prob might not have ever started working together, and the project would have died in Feb 2019. 

Working with machine learning is not as fun as compiling stats of a cutthroat forum though.  And my new domain name is not a sweet sounding unique abbreviation, so I don't expect it will be targeted like this.

@bpip.org - you've reached the top 30 least trusted (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted) since I drooped the bottom limit of -9999.  Unless your plan is to associate those letters with dishonesty, you should probably just abandon the account.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: The Cryptovator on March 29, 2020, 05:11:36 AM
actually he is part of our team in the future, you all should know and not cover your own face.
don't corner him, even some of you have been part of us before.
So your team just choose username from most popular website? And what is your team goal to choose such as username which would mislead newbies? If your intention is build account and sell it later than it's not gonna happen anymore since both of you already marked as a impersonator. Can you please describe more about who have been part of your team and how?


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Bpip.org on March 29, 2020, 09:37:13 AM
@Vod - I am proud of this https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted (https://bpip.org/report.aspx?r=leasttrusted) ;D
wait till rank 1 and replace game-protect then i will leave by mentioning some MOD, BM which is really my second face and it's getting hotter like corona virus  ::)



little mouse angle for first attention  :D
several other mice began to enter the black box  :P
@fb for further attention and there will be some spiders that will start working  :-X
watch  8)


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: Foxpup on March 29, 2020, 10:14:42 AM
wait till rank 1 and replace game-protect
Bad news: BPIP caps negative trust at -2,097,152 and users with equal trust are sorted by registration date, so even if you hit the cap you'll still only be number 2 because you registered later. The only way you'll ever be number 1 is if the cap is removed and you can beat game-protect's actual trust score of -2,199,023,255,552. Good luck. 8)


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: dragonvslinux on March 29, 2020, 07:27:17 PM
Well, I think that's probably enough tags either way. What I don't understand is why out of 13 DT negs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2647943;page=trusted&dt), only 8 supply reference, the other 5 failed at doing so.
Foxpup, ibminer, suchmoon and marlboroza: why no reference to this thread to make the claim more credible? Are we just supposed to take your word for it?
Vod: Why not use a reference of the project you created, to confirm without a shadow of a doubt that the user is not affiliated with the project you founded?
Call it off-topic, but I'd consider the account sufficiently negged, so I'm moving onto the discussing the quality of these negs, that overall doesn't appear reliable from trusted members as you'd hope or expect. Overall, only 2/3 of DT members supplied references. I think the argument that it's unnecessary to provide a reference due to the number of references by other DT members isn't a real argument. Imagine a future where only a few of these 13 DT members are still DT in years or decades to come.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: suchmoon on March 29, 2020, 08:29:02 PM
Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

Yes. It is precisely my word (and ibminer's, and Vod's) that others should rely on in this case. A reference wouldn't make my rating more credible.

Having said that, it probably wouldn't hurt either so I added a link to my post.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: JollyGood on March 29, 2020, 08:38:09 PM
Very hard to argue with that view, leaving negative trust at least might have some impact on the scam attempts by impersonators who use Telegram or other tools to try to steal from people. The user that tried to impersonate as BPIP obviously had ulterior motives so I am glad he has been heavily tagged in red trust.

So many scams comes from impersonating the administrators of projects, and the telegram channels are full of people imitating the developers of a certain to scam newbies, he has a bad intentional from the start by creating a brand that he is not part of it, it's good that he has a negative so people will know and be warn.


Title: Re: Who own bpip.org?
Post by: dragonvslinux on March 29, 2020, 09:11:12 PM
Are we just supposed to take your word for it?

Yes. It is precisely my word (and ibminer's, and Vod's) that others should rely on in this case. A reference wouldn't make my rating more credible.

Having said that, it probably wouldn't hurt either so I added a link to my post.

Excellent! Now everyone who reads your feedback will understand why your opinion is one of he most relevant ones  :)