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Title: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on April 26, 2020, 07:12:11 PM
The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Febo on April 26, 2020, 07:28:00 PM
When will covid-19 disappear?

The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.

covid-19 threat will dispersal when there will be 60% vaccined or immune. Vaccine will most likely not be available for a year. Most countries took so strict measures they will not be able to gave 60% immunity in one year time. Maybe over time they will see from other countries what is the best way.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on April 26, 2020, 09:12:44 PM
covid does like warm weather.
africa for instance is suffering and they have 40O weather. so hoping northern hemesphere nations that only suffer form 25-35O. means the weather wont irradicate it.
infact. the warmer weather will make people want to get out of their houses and socialise and go places other people are. thus causing an increase of infectee's

if there was no isolations no restrictions. a country like america could start at 50 infectees in week 1 and have gone through all 320mill in just 21 weeks. but that would be with MILLIONS of hospitalisations, which hospitals cant cope with. where hospitals would have gone to capacity in just 9 weeks


by implementing isolations at week 6 means the r0 shows a low % of population infected and if they lower the number and release the restrictions a little and tighten them when needed it would be low 0.x% a month, meaning years for full population spread.

to avoid waves of needing to tighten restrictions and keep it at a low 0.x% per month level. the countries will need to ensure people socially distance AND contact trace those infected with those they came near.

take for instance sweden. it is not really doing much contact tracing and is just relying on social distance. the numbers are rising and they are going to reach a critical point of infections where they will need to lockdown to save hospitals being overwhelmed
they have only had it for 5 weeks since their 50 case week 1, where as US/UK are nearer 10th week

taking a look at china who had their 50th infectee at the start of january. they are much far ahead and they done all the required restrictions including contact tracing. but if you look at their low numbers of infectee's against their large billion population. they will never achieve 'herd immunity levels for many many years

the only real hopes are:
a treatment that can lower the risk of needing hospitalisations.
restrictions to some extent and loosening/tightening them for next couple years
increasing hospital capacity to let it expand to 1-2% spread a month before tightening. instead of 0.x%
having a vaccine available soon to inoculate people to reduce hospital requirement and deathcounts

in short.
dont think it will disappear over summer



Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on April 26, 2020, 10:36:04 PM
covid does like warm weather.
africa for instance is suffering and they have 40O weather. so hoping northern hemesphere nations that only suffer form 25-35O. means the weather wont irradicate it.
infact. the warmer weather will make people want to get out of their houses and socialise and go places other people are. thus causing an increase of infectee's

if there was no isolations no restrictions. a country like america could start at 50 infectees in week 1 and have gone through all 320mill in just 21 weeks. but that would be with MILLIONS of hospitalisations, which hospitals cant cope with. where hospitals would have gone to capacity in just 9 weeks


by implementing isolations at week 6 means the r0 shows a low % of population infected and if they lower the number and release the restrictions a little and tighten them when needed it would be low 0.x% a month, meaning years for full population spread.

to avoid waves of needing to tighten restrictions and keep it at a low 0.x% per month level. the countries will need to ensure people socially distance AND contact trace those infected with those they came near.

take for instance sweden. it is not really doing much contact tracing and is just relying on social distance. the numbers are rising and they are going to reach a critical point of infections where they will need to lockdown to save hospitals being overwhelmed
they have only had it for 5 weeks since their 50 case week 1, where as US/UK are nearer 10th week

taking a look at china who had their 50th infectee at the start of january. they are much far ahead and they done all the required restrictions including contact tracing. but if you look at their low numbers of infectee's against their large billion population. they will never achieve 'herd immunity levels for many many years

the only real hopes are:
a treatment that can lower the risk of needing hospitalisations.
restrictions to some extent and loosening/tightening them for next couple years
increasing hospital capacity to let it expand to 1-2% spread a month before tightening. instead of 0.x%
having a vaccine available soon to inoculate people to reduce hospital requirement and deathcounts

in short.
dont think it will disappear over summer


i know it will not disappear but i think the situation will calm down a bit and people will live normal again as much as it's possible



Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on April 26, 2020, 10:37:20 PM
When will covid-19 disappear?

The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.

covid-19 threat will dispersal when there will be 60% vaccined or immune. Vaccine will most likely not be available for a year. Most countries took so strict measures they will not be able to gave 60% immunity in one year time. Maybe over time they will see from other countries what is the best way.

yes, that's right but in few months the situation will calm dow a little bit - i hope so ??? ???


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 27, 2020, 01:26:05 AM
As I have been saying, it's not Covid-19 or even Coronavirus. Rather, it's a lie!


According To CDC Data, It’s NOT COVID-19 Coronavirus That Is Causing All The Severe Lung Deaths (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/281741-2020-04-26-according-to-cdc-data-its-not-covid-19-coronavirus-that.htm)



Examine the maps below.  They show the States where COVID-19 cases occur which correlates with where tuberculosis of the lungs is prevalent.  Either of two conclusions can be made from these maps:

1) Either people living in these States have weak immunity and therefore are likely to develop COVID-19 coronavirus or tuberculosis, or both; and/or

2) The fact most cases of lung pathology occur along the southern border and New York City, where immigrants enter the country, typically with dormant or latent cases of TB.  TB may be an uninvestigated co-morbidity that is causing many deaths attributed to COVID-19 coronavirus.

In the next graphic (below) the top chart indicates mortality from pneumonia and influenza only for 2016-2020 with a dramatic up-spike (red line) in early 2020.  The bottom chart displays data for total deaths from COVID-19 coronavirus in addition to pneumonia and influenza for Oct. 2015-April 2020 with a sharp increase in the third and fourth months of 2020 (red line).  When both charts are compared, it is obvious that the reported increase in deaths is largely due to pneumonia or influenza, not COVID-19.

...

In the next graphic (below) the top chart indicates mortality from pneumonia and influenza only for 2016-2020 with a dramatic up-spike (red line) in early 2020.  The bottom chart displays data for total deaths from COVID-19 coronavirus in addition to pneumonia and influenza for Oct. 2015-April 2020 with a sharp increase in the third and fourth months of 2020 (red line).  When both charts are compared, it is obvious that the reported increase in deaths is largely due to pneumonia or influenza, not COVID-19.


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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on April 27, 2020, 03:07:08 AM
According To CDC Data, It’s NOT COVID-19 Coronavirus That Is Causing All The Severe Lung Deaths


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Examine the maps below.  They show the States where COVID-19 cases occur which correlates with where tuberculosis of the lungs is prevalent.  Either of two conclusions can be made from these maps:

covid is happening everywhere even in places without tuberculosis prevalence.. and to pre-empt your other conspiracy, even in places without 5g

just so you know.. doctors can tell the difference between asthma, tuberculosis, copd and covid induced pneumonia

here is a different swing on things that will blow your mind
people do not die due to a covid swab test being positive.
infact only ~2% of people die who have covid.
let me break it down roughty for you
50% - no symptom
30% -mild symptom -stay home
18% - severe symptom - go to hospital - recover
2%  - severe symptom - go to hospital -die

you can spot this by the those tested are usually those who are in hospital the 20% and 10% of 20%=2% die
2million people admitted to hospital by week x = 200k died by week x+2
because thats how long on average they suffer in hospital before their SYMPTOMS kill them

              -> the test at admission is not the cause of death  <-

and by going by those numbers only 10mill around the world have been exposed so far

places like california done a study. they have a high case load. but only ~1.5% exposure rate
50 of 3300 of a randomised sampling study


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lepbagong on April 27, 2020, 03:54:35 AM

no one can be sure when this corona virus will end. in my country help for people who have stopped working get help for 3 months. with predictions that the situation could decrease when the weather starts to heat up and it is expected that the corona virus will stop by itself. but that is an assumption, the proof is that an African country that is indeed hot weather is still infected.

because what is feared from the corona virus is that, the corona virus has no symptoms at all, it still looks healthy. this is what makes the corona virus severance chain even more difficult. a thorough examination is needed both with symptoms or not, so that it can be separated and not contagious.
we hope that the examination tools are easier and more numerous and if possible, there is indeed a cure for it.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 27, 2020, 08:21:15 AM
According To CDC Data, It’s NOT COVID-19 Coronavirus That Is Causing All The Severe Lung Deaths


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Examine the maps below.  They show the States where COVID-19 cases occur which correlates with where tuberculosis of the lungs is prevalent.  Either of two conclusions can be made from these maps:

covid is happening everywhere even in places without tuberculosis prevalence.. and to pre-empt your other conspiracy, even in places without 5g

just so you know.. doctors can tell the difference between asthma, tuberculosis, copd and covid induced pneumonia

here is a different swing on things that will blow your mind
people do not die due to a covid swab test being positive.
infact only ~2% of people die who have covid.
let me break it down roughty for you
50% - no symptom
30% -mild symptom -stay home
18% - severe symptom - go to hospital - recover
2%  - severe symptom - go to hospital -die

you can spot this by the those tested are usually those who are in hospital the 20% and 10% of 20%=2% die
2million people admitted to hospital by week x = 200k died by week x+2
because thats how long on average they suffer in hospital before their SYMPTOMS kill them

              -> the test at admission is not the cause of death  <-

and by going by those numbers only 10mill around the world have been exposed so far

places like california done a study. they have a high case load. but only ~1.5% exposure rate
50 of 3300 of a randomised sampling study

But second and third opinions often show that doctors are wrong in their diagnoses.


You still don't understand that the California study included Covid-19 antibodies in most (if not all) of the people. Antibodies don't just pop into existence for the fun of it. They are built by the immune system as a protection against some disease... in this case Covid-19.

What this means is that nearly all of the people in the study had been exposed to CV, but most of them remained healthy because their immune systems reacted by building the antibodies.

But the most important part of the study was the way it was done. It was done in such a way that the findings can be extrapolated to the rest of society. In other words, most of society has been exposed to CV, and are healthy from their own antibodies.

When you add the results of the study to the fact of bad testing for CV in general, and the fact of calling it CV no matter what it is, it's easy to see that there is essentially nothing to Covid-19. It's not a pandemic. Government and the medical know it. The people are finding out, and are going back to work.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on April 27, 2020, 08:57:03 AM
You still don't understand that the California study included Covid-19 antibodies in most (if not all) of the people. Antibodies don't just pop into existence for the fun of it. They are built by the immune system as a protection against some disease... in this case Covid-19.

you lying ignorant stupid idiot
no the study did not include results that antibodies in most(if not all people)

only 50 of 3300 tested had antibodies.
your an utter idiot
50 had the antibodies not 3300

try to read the actual study and stop being an idiot troll


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Febo on April 27, 2020, 02:37:49 PM
When will covid-19 disappear?

The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.

covid-19 threat will dispersal when there will be 60% vaccined or immune. Vaccine will most likely not be available for a year. Most countries took so strict measures they will not be able to gave 60% immunity in one year time. Maybe over time they will see from other countries what is the best way.

yes, that's right but in few months the situation will calm dow a little bit - i hope so ??? ???


Virus and pandemic will exist. Countries can have lock downs to prevent to spread it. Yes now masks and other medical supplies are more available as were 1 month ago. Also number of available hospital beds expanded. So lock downs can be less strict. But before 60% vaccined or immunity happen there will need to be some. Countries and regions like Lombardy and New York where 20% people already had covid-19 will have huge advantage. Countries that barely had any infected will have to have similar measures as fro first wave.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 27, 2020, 04:19:36 PM
According To CDC Data, It’s NOT COVID-19 Coronavirus That Is Causing All The Severe Lung Deaths


Quote
Examine the maps below.  They show the States where COVID-19 cases occur which correlates with where tuberculosis of the lungs is prevalent.  Either of two conclusions can be made from these maps:

covid is happening everywhere even in places without tuberculosis prevalence.. and to pre-empt your other conspiracy, even in places without 5g

just so you know.. doctors can tell the difference between asthma, tuberculosis, copd and covid induced pneumonia

here is a different swing on things that will blow your mind
people do not die due to a covid swab test being positive.
infact only ~2% of people die who have covid.
let me break it down roughty for you
50% - no symptom
30% -mild symptom -stay home
18% - severe symptom - go to hospital - recover
2%  - severe symptom - go to hospital -die

you can spot this by the those tested are usually those who are in hospital the 20% and 10% of 20%=2% die
2million people admitted to hospital by week x = 200k died by week x+2
because thats how long on average they suffer in hospital before their SYMPTOMS kill them

              -> the test at admission is not the cause of death  <-

and by going by those numbers only 10mill around the world have been exposed so far

places like california done a study. they have a high case load. but only ~1.5% exposure rate
50 of 3300 of a randomised sampling study

But since you don't have any proof of what you say, and since many other people understand the figures differently than you do, everything you say is hype and hearsay and blab.

The evidence in studies is that the world is possibly 90% infected, and that herd immunity has kept most of the people from becoming sick.

The evidence is there, as well, that the official figures are tremendous exaggerations, and lies.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on April 27, 2020, 04:43:51 PM
the study itself says 30 of 3330   (the revised the numbers by the look of it as they had some false positives)
that is the evidence

the study does not say 50-80x of people tested have antibodies
show me your evidence it says that.

show me the study.. not the faux media story. show me your evidence

the study shows less than 1% exposure
other studies from multiple places.. including a study of hospital staff. showed only a 2% antibody result


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: fourpiece on April 27, 2020, 04:48:36 PM
The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.

here in my country, everyday weather is too hot, and some experts say that the virus wont last in hot countrues but why the cases of covid is increasing. Upcoming viruses that will the world will be much stronger than covid, so we must treat this virus seriously, stay at home. Please


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on April 27, 2020, 06:02:13 PM
viruses are able to survive in 37-40o temperature..
thats why they survive in the human body

so people living in 17o average climate thinking that a 30o summer day will destroy a virus between the two seconds of someone exhaling and another person  walking into the airstream of the breath.. has no clue

so no, weather wont help kill the virus


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Renampun on April 27, 2020, 09:43:30 PM
WHO says "this virus will be with us for a long time"...
for now and the days ahead, we can only pray that our families will be kept away from this disease, especially parents over the age of 50, This virus cannot be predicted until when.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 27, 2020, 09:59:52 PM
WHO says "this virus will be with us for a long time"...
for now and the days ahead, we can only pray that our families will be kept away from this disease, especially parents over the age of 50, This virus cannot be predicted until when.

Since this virus grows fast...
And since there are so many people who have it without knowing it...
and since most people are immune because of their own antibodies made by their immune systems...

I recommend that we grow Covid-19 into a form of Frankenmeat for dinner.

I think Covid-19 has been around for years, and franky1 is a good example of Frankenmeat made by this virus naturally. :D

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 27, 2020, 10:38:12 PM
I hope Covid-19 will leave us in the middle of this year or at the end of this year. I am sure many people want the Covid-19 to leave us as soon as possible, but I doubt it will happen so soon because the number of the infected people still counting, and the scientist still searching for the vaccine. While we still at home and waiting for the next update from the government.

I haven't had myself tested, and probably won't. But if you are tested, and test positive, and especially if you test positive for Covid-19 antibodies, odds are you won't come close to catching it... unless you have it already. Simply eat right, and take extra vitamins C and D3... D3 especially if you are staying inside during the lockdown.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: GDragon on April 28, 2020, 01:39:39 AM
When will covid-19 disappear?

The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.

covid-19 threat will dispersal when there will be 60% vaccined or immune. Vaccine will most likely not be available for a year. Most countries took so strict measures they will not be able to gave 60% immunity in one year time. Maybe over time they will see from other countries what is the best way.

Vaccine will save us, a year or two they said. However the 60% immunity won't work as of now...

I am hoping this was true too but, uh, sad to say that there is still no evidences as of today that someone cannot be reinfected... I just read that 222 people in South Korea who have tested positive and fully recovers are now reinfected again with the virus. This is a problem specially with the creation of the Vaccine. They are really not sure why. So "Immunity passport" is not really the answer as of now. The WHO even says that countries should avoid creating certificates that someone is already immune to the virus because its not, there is still no evidence. There are still reinfection around the world. So yup, sorry to inform you but it was not yet the answer...

Quote
But the country is now grappling with a new problem: at least 222 people have tested positive for the virus again after recovering, and experts are not sure why.

 Coronavirus quandary: Some patients in S Korea get virus again  (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/coronavirus-quandary-patients-south-korea-200426235141488.html)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 28, 2020, 02:08:55 AM
When will covid-19 disappear?

The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.

covid-19 threat will dispersal when there will be 60% vaccined or immune. Vaccine will most likely not be available for a year. Most countries took so strict measures they will not be able to gave 60% immunity in one year time. Maybe over time they will see from other countries what is the best way.

Vaccine will save us, a year or two they said. However the 60% immunity won't work as of now...

I am hoping this was true too but, uh, sad to say that there is still no evidences as of today that someone cannot be reinfected... I just read that 222 people in South Korea who have tested positive and fully recovers are now reinfected again with the virus. This is a problem specially with the creation of the Vaccine. They are really not sure why. So "Immunity passport" is not really the answer as of now. The WHO even says that countries should avoid creating certificates that someone is already immune to the virus because its not, there is still no evidence. There are still reinfection around the world. So yup, sorry to inform you but it was not yet the answer...

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But the country is now grappling with a new problem: at least 222 people have tested positive for the virus again after recovering, and experts are not sure why.

 Coronavirus quandary: Some patients in S Korea get virus again  (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/coronavirus-quandary-patients-south-korea-200426235141488.html)

Covid-19 is difficult to test for with certainty. Maybe they have something different now. Or maybe they had something different the first time. There are several different major Coronaviruses besides Covid-19.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on April 28, 2020, 04:52:30 AM
Covid-19 is difficult to test for with certainty. Maybe they have something different now. Or maybe they had something different the first time. There are several different major Coronaviruses besides Covid-19.

again, atleast your now at the part of your scripts where your admitting covid is real. but your still out of date
covid was in december difficult to test for. but in february/march it became easy.

what your not seeing is that some patients that are in hospital are released once they are no longer critical. not when cured. but just no longer critical.
take boris johnson. even a few weeks after being released from hospital boris was still ill.
its far more likely that some people will get 'reactivated' (become sicker before fully recovering) in the first couple months..

there are some people who have taken immune-surpressors or have a immune system disorder wont have the immunity to be ok for any time and can get it repeatedly. so its still unclear. but my judgement sways more towards sicker before recovered. rather than reinfected


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 28, 2020, 02:54:12 PM
Notice how there are a few people in this forum who seem to delight in the pandemic. They constantly try to turn it into a panic, while at the same time protecting their integrity as much as they can. They must have studied with Fauci... or are they simply his students?


Sealed Indictment Issued on Dr. Fauci -- Exclusive (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/281824-2020-04-27-sealed-indictment-issued-on-dr-fauci-exclusive.htm)



Sources close to the Fauci probe said Trump became suspicious of Fauci's intentions after reading Tweets linking the doctor to a "Deep State" coup designed to cripple his reelection campaign. These Tweets alleged Fauci and none other than Barack Hussein Obama had orchestrated a "hoax" to tank the economy, spelling doom for a president whose main presidential achievement was fostering an economic resurgence. The Tweets surmise the Coronavirus is a pretext for stripping Americans of the rights and freedoms they hold dear, and that Fauci wants to usher in a New World Order that would abolish the Constitution and replace U.S. leaders with United Nations personnel.

...

 Without question, something is going on in regards to this pandemic that sounds off.  This may well be it.  All of it was convenient to folks now under deep attack.  It is plausible that the whole pandemic will turn out to be a selective attack orchestrated around known death expectations.

The worst cases actually sound like TB and that can be slipped in to generate a lot of nasty deaths.

I do know that the White hats have used this all as cover as well for their ongoing roll up of the DEEP STATE.  The actual lock down thus also serves to protect while that all goes down.

I do think that this will all be over soon.


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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Febo on April 28, 2020, 04:03:21 PM
When will covid-19 disappear?

The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.

covid-19 threat will dispersal when there will be 60% vaccined or immune. Vaccine will most likely not be available for a year. Most countries took so strict measures they will not be able to gave 60% immunity in one year time. Maybe over time they will see from other countries what is the best way.

Vaccine will save us, a year or two they said. However the 60% immunity won't work as of now...

I am hoping this was true too but, uh, sad to say that there is still no evidences as of today that someone cannot be reinfected... I just read that 222 people in South Korea who have tested positive and fully recovers are now reinfected again with the virus. This is a problem specially with the creation of the Vaccine. They are really not sure why. So "Immunity passport" is not really the answer as of now. The WHO even says that countries should avoid creating certificates that someone is already immune to the virus because its not, there is still no evidence. There are still reinfection around the world. So yup, sorry to inform you but it was not yet the answer...

Quote
But the country is now grappling with a new problem: at least 222 people have tested positive for the virus again after recovering, and experts are not sure why.

 Coronavirus quandary: Some patients in S Korea get virus again  (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/04/coronavirus-quandary-patients-south-korea-200426235141488.html)

It seems highly unlikely to mutate that fast. But what do I know. Article suggest flaws in testing or that they just needed more time to recover.  What I do know is that if you were vaccinated for last year virus or you had premutated virus and you get infected with a mutated one then you are far less sick as you are if you never had virus before.  This is why covid-19 is so dangerous since is new and no one have any defence against it in our bodies. 


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on April 28, 2020, 09:05:55 PM

no one can be sure when this corona virus will end. in my country help for people who have stopped working get help for 3 months. with predictions that the situation could decrease when the weather starts to heat up and it is expected that the corona virus will stop by itself. but that is an assumption, the proof is that an African country that is indeed hot weather is still infected.

because what is feared from the corona virus is that, the corona virus has no symptoms at all, it still looks healthy. this is what makes the corona virus severance chain even more difficult. a thorough examination is needed both with symptoms or not, so that it can be separated and not contagious.
we hope that the examination tools are easier and more numerous and if possible, there is indeed a cure for it.


i truly agree with you, but i heard that covid-19 can't really submit hot weather, i don't know what type is in Africa ???


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on April 28, 2020, 09:10:00 PM
WHO says "this virus will be with us for a long time"...
for now and the days ahead, we can only pray that our families will be kept away from this disease, especially parents over the age of 50, This virus cannot be predicted until when.

i agree with you, the only thing we have now (to actually save us) is hope and praying


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 28, 2020, 10:52:18 PM
Most of the points in the quote, below, are website-linked. Go to the site, and follow the links. Watch the video while you are at it.


Interview 1451 - The Propaganda Report Dissects The Second Wave (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/281852-2020-04-28-interview-1451-the-propaganda-report-dissects-the-second-wave.htm)



A "second wave" is coming . . . and they're going to blame it on YOU. Today James talks to Monica Perez and Brad Binkley of ThePropReport.com about their analysis of the "second wave" narrative and how it is going to play out in the unfolding covid crisis.

SHOW NOTES:

ThePropReport.com

Predictions: What Will Happen Next in the Corona Crisis?

Patton Oswalt "Open Fuddruckers" tweet

Anti-Lockdown Protesters Harass COVID-19 Nurses | NowThis

We're not going back to normal

B.F. Skinner behavioral conditioning of pigeons

Bill Gates writes about "Pandemic I"

The State of the Police State – #NewWorldNextWeek (Russian online protests)


A "Second Wave" Is Coming . . . And They're Going To Blame It On YOU!!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/kpZinAjbxAY/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLBNX3Nsd3hdX_DsB29nG5LRc43Czg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpZinAjbxAY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpZinAjbxAY)


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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on April 29, 2020, 11:17:33 AM
americans/brits cant blame china. because americans/brits government 'repatriated' people to bring it across borders,

the thing is. they are next not going to let the count get to zero. but only small numbers. meaning it is not eradicated. and always being a constant poke and needing to keep things on a leash

and as soon as things become too calm/safe. then new flights will import it

any country that does not 14day quarantine flight passengers/contact trace is in for a second wave much sooner.
as for those that do quarantine/contact trace. well they are in for a long haul of constant reminders

but lets hope countries become more wiser to instead of lockdown the whole country. to atleast lockdown regions of hotzones whether it be county/state level

here is the thing. ill take UK as an example
they wont implement 'contact tracing' until numbers of new infectee's are below a certain level
they wont relax restrictions until numbers of new infectees is below a certain level.

lets pretend that level of being able to cope with contact tracing was 100 infectee's a day.
guess what. when infectees go back above that threshold of 'able to cope' less contact tracing will actually be done

UK/US said they tried it in february but gave up because the numbers of infectee's overwelmed the amount of contact tracing they could do.
this is because people are more contagious than the 7 day period firsth thought. meaning people need to inform tracers of who they came into contact with for weeks not days.

adding to that, the lack of peoples memory to actually remember everyone they brushed shoulders with
adding to that, contact tracing only people who come within 1metre and for a constant 15minute period. leaves out alot of other people that could get exposed.

imagine it this way. your in a bar. you buy a bottle of beer. your bartender is sick but not yet symptomatic. but has handed you a bottle with his infected hand. but because the bar table is in the way, because you only came near the bartender for 4 minutes that 'contact' gets dismissed'
but now we have a bar full of infected people and no one in the bar was contacted until they started showing symptoms
contact tracing only really works well retrospectively to work backwards to find the origins. it does not work well forwards

take for instance china which is 2 months ahead of UK/US. for every 1 infected patient with symptoms. they 'sheilding provision' isolated 10-12 'close contacts' yet they are still having cases and still at a low % of actual population spread.
yep china are not even at a 1% spread so they are going to be having this going on for years


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on April 30, 2020, 09:16:40 AM
viruses are able to survive in 37-40o temperature..
thats why they survive in the human body

so people living in 17o average climate thinking that a 30o summer day will destroy a virus between the two seconds of someone exhaling and another person  walking into the airstream of the breath.. has no clue

so no, weather wont help kill the virus

every virus is different, and how I said I don't think that virus is going to disappear, but I hope that situation will calm down and also scientist said that there is really high chance that virus is going to come back in winter this year.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: akram143 on April 30, 2020, 09:47:03 AM
Atleast for the next three to four months we may not find vaccine for covid 19 so in that time period it is going to stay here but until that people can live under lockdown? Already people spend their savings for buying food items so they will be forced to go out if there is not much enough support from governments.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: noormcs5 on April 30, 2020, 12:21:31 PM

"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.


There are many places around the world where we do not find warm weather. Some countries like Canada, there is no summer season. So even if the virus get killed in warmer regions there is always a chance that people traveling from colder countries may still have virus and they could effect the people. The only solution to this is to have a vaccine developed for this.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: fortunecrypto on April 30, 2020, 02:44:14 PM

"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.



There are countries with warm weather, but the infection is also high, so I don't think warm weather is going to help, the world will focus in the vaccine and only a vaccine can help us make this virus disappear,there is no short cut for this, even the lock down cannot help us, it only slow down the infection but it's still ongoing.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on April 30, 2020, 04:05:23 PM
LOL Please .. its not even worth a real reply.. stay in the mining section because politics and current affairs is out of your league.

A vaccine doesn't help anyone.. the entire world would have to take it at the same time, and then what if they do and there is covid 20 next year, don't you see this is what the want you to do.

Call me crazy but when all facts are analyzed, and I mean analyzed and back tested, there is still 0 << YES ZERO evidence of CV 19 existing.




"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.



There are countries with warm weather, but the infection is also high, so I don't think warm weather is going to help, the world will focus in the vaccine and only a vaccine can help us make this virus disappear,there is no short cut for this, even the lock down cannot help us, it only slow down the infection but it's still ongoing.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 30, 2020, 07:20:46 PM
^^^ Right!

Covid-19 will disappear when people stop watching the media. That's all that it will take to get rid of this virus.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on April 30, 2020, 07:35:26 PM
Precisely -- all these "events" are micro managed by the masters and the media. As soon as people come to realize what's going on they come out with a quick follow up but in all reality it only goes on until a certain amount of people believe it.

If you follow the headlines as closely as I do you can see that as soon as doubts appear they came out right away with more scary headlines to keep it going as long as possible.. headlines such as "Horror in NY as bodies pile up in mass graves" .. The the next one is the media calling people conspiracy therorist and dangerous. Sounds just like 9/11 .. if you believed it was BS you were called dangerous and you would get people killed.. But it only works until the masses are reached and wake up and its pretty much over.

The problem is too many stupid people. Especially in the developing world where people just take everything at face value.



^^^ Right!

Covid-19 will disappear when people stop watching the media. That's all that it will take to get rid of this virus.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on April 30, 2020, 07:37:54 PM
Week 1 --- Tony Blair calls for a global governement

Week 2 --- Gordon Brown calls for a new world order

Week 3 --- Henry Kissinger says accept the newest new world order or the planet will burn

Week 4 --- Back to Tony Blair, just give us 10% of everything to fix this shit.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on April 30, 2020, 07:42:07 PM
^^^ Right!

You can fool all of the people some of the time...
And you can fool some of the people all of the time...
But you can't fool all of the people all of the time.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: azmirihaque on May 01, 2020, 03:14:29 AM
It is really tough to predict when COVID-19 will disappear. Yes, there is only one answer-when vaccine will invented. But I think we have to pass a larger time to get it. Though Britain has given a good news to push a vaccine in human body but this vaccine is for Corona negative persons and still they are not confirm of its success. What will be for Corona positive persons?? No vaccine is still pushed. We don't know when the scientists will delightedly declare their invention. It may take a large time and anther larger time will be needed to make it available for the world when it is invented. How much time the world will be locked?? When countries will release their locked, Corona will spread over again and it is not possible to turn locked till the invention of vaccine. So, COVID-19 is passing its pick up time  and we are passing the worst situation.     



Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Spendulus on May 01, 2020, 03:54:15 AM
Call me crazy but when all facts are analyzed, and I mean analyzed and back tested, there is still 0 << YES ZERO evidence of CV 19 existing.

That doesn't seem very likely to me.

Since it has been fully sequenced, and reverse trasncriptionase testing can positively identify a new specimen. There is evidence of CV19 existing, period.

I'm sure a lot of interesting things will come up after analysis and back testing, though.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Laleneth910 on May 01, 2020, 01:43:18 PM
What is the recovery time for the coronavirus disease?

Using available preliminary data, the median time from onset to clinical recovery for mild cases is approximately 2 weeks and is 3-6 weeks for patients with severe or critical disease


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 01, 2020, 01:58:35 PM

"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.


There are many places around the world where we do not find warm weather. Some countries like Canada, there is no summer season. So even if the virus get killed in warmer regions there is always a chance that people traveling from colder countries may still have virus and they could effect the people. The only solution to this is to have a vaccine developed for this.

Yes, I agree with you the vaccine is the best solution we can have for this situation.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 01, 2020, 02:02:09 PM

"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.



There are countries with warm weather, but the infection is also high, so I don't think warm weather is going to help, the world will focus in the vaccine and only a vaccine can help us make this virus disappear,there is no short cut for this, even the lock down cannot help us, it only slow down the infection but it's still ongoing.


I agree, but I think in countires where is not that warm, over the summer will be warmer and virus is not used to it so it can maybe help a little bit to slow down the infection.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on May 01, 2020, 02:15:06 PM
That's was the red flag for me.. Chinese people working in a lab coming up with results. No thanks, as soon as you ask a westerner they say that method is flawed. The so called sequencing you are reffering to is junk from China.  If Chinese people figured out CV19 in a few weeks how come the study hasn't been repoduced in the west ?  If anything is real it should produce the same result here, but people here claim it was flawed from the start and would take 6 mos to isolate a virus and begin any type of work on it.



Call me crazy but when all facts are analyzed, and I mean analyzed and back tested, there is still 0 << YES ZERO evidence of CV 19 existing.

That doesn't seem very likely to me.

Since it has been fully sequenced, and reverse trasncriptionase testing can positively identify a new specimen. There is evidence of CV19 existing, period.

I'm sure a lot of interesting things will come up after analysis and back testing, though.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 01, 2020, 08:37:17 PM
When will covid-19 disappear?

As soon as somebody opens his/her eyes.     8)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 01, 2020, 08:59:29 PM
That's was the red flag for me.. Chinese people working in a lab coming up with results. No thanks, as soon as you ask a westerner they say that method is flawed. The so called sequencing you are reffering to is junk from China.  If Chinese people figured out CV19 in a few weeks how come the study hasn't been repoduced in the west ?  If anything is real it should produce the same result here, but people here claim it was flawed from the start and would take 6 mos to isolate a virus and begin any type of work on it.

many many countries have done their own sequencing
if you think it takes months then you have obviously not looked at science but faux media

here is over 2000 examples of multiple countries submitting multiples samples of the sequence from their own independent tests

yep not all from china
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 01, 2020, 09:05:26 PM
That's was the red flag for me.. Chinese people working in a lab coming up with results. No thanks, as soon as you ask a westerner they say that method is flawed. The so called sequencing you are reffering to is junk from China.  If Chinese people figured out CV19 in a few weeks how come the study hasn't been repoduced in the west ?  If anything is real it should produce the same result here, but people here claim it was flawed from the start and would take 6 mos to isolate a virus and begin any type of work on it.

many many countries have done their own sequencing
if you think it takes months then you have obviously not looked at science but faux media


The simple problem is that you can't find even one country that has sequenced Covid-19. If you could, you would provide a link to the proof of their sequencing.

But don't think that I am asking you for a link to actual proof. I certainly wouldn't want to undermine your campaign to prove that there isn't any Covidd-19, weird kind of campaign that it happens to be.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on May 01, 2020, 10:53:03 PM
Franky I'm just following the evidence.

If a western independent lab in the US or Canada without ties to the WHO or CDC isolate the virus I'm happy to believe it. The fact is that hasn't happened, so we ask where it stops and it stops at using a method that doesn't accurately prove anything. Sort of like measuring the distance between planets using walmart telescopes.

Here is another excellent clip 3 mins long.. it should be in its own post to wake up the Asians here who are sleeping and in line for a vaccination..

Bill gates wants to remove 1,000,0000,000 people from the planet using vaccination.

1 BILLION.. that's a thousand millions for your ethereum idiots.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/eGZZHqE4kw4/
WHAT DOES BILL GATES HAVE TO DO WITH A CORONAVIRUS VACCINE?
Dr. Andrew Kaufman On London Real 
3:41


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 02, 2020, 02:22:29 AM
Now that we see what Coronavirus is all about... What? You don't know? Watch the last 16 minutes. Then watch the whole thing... before Youtube takes it down.


CORONAVIRUS A NATION DIVIDED
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wpfxvXjAnvk/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLBJ4uG4n8ripS59niMQ4o9bYVV-JA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpfxvXjAnvk&t=110m (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpfxvXjAnvk&t=110m)


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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 02, 2020, 04:04:00 AM
Franky I'm just following the evidence.

If a western independent lab in the US or Canada without ties to the WHO or CDC isolate the virus I'm happy to believe it. The fact is that hasn't happened, so we ask where it stops and it stops at using a method that doesn't accurately prove anything. Sort of like measuring the distance between planets using walmart telescopes.

Here is another excellent clip 3 mins long.. it should be in its own post to wake up the Asians here who are sleeping and in line for a vaccination..

Bill gates wants to remove 1,000,0000,000 people from the planet using vaccination.

1 BILLION.. that's a thousand millions for your ethereum idiots.

but the whole reduce population by 15% is a mis-information. its a reduce population growth by 15%
EG for every 2 adults. in developed countries would have 2.4 kids in the 1990's . after the millenium its more like 2.2
the idea is that through vaccinations to make people live longer and less kids die at childhood. and family planning. is that parents just end up having less kids IN THE FIRST PLACE, bringing it down to an average world total 2 kids per parent

its not about killing kids. its about making parents realise there is no need to birth 10-18 kids, where as 2 is fine.
its about slowing the exponential growth

heres a funny thing i noticed
UK government advertised the NHS is now able to cope and ok to perform normal treatments. and the one they mentioned.. fertility treatment to get the country to start making babies again for parents that usually cant

which goes to show its not about a genocide government plot. its about letting people become parents. but not to the extremes of having loads of kids


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 02, 2020, 04:17:16 AM
Now that we see what Coronavirus is all about... What? You don't know? Watch the last 16 minutes. Then watch the whole thing... before Youtube takes it down.

CORONAVIRUS A NATION DIVIDED

this was funny. bigtree using Dr phil. who is not a virus doctor or a hospital emergency doctor but psychiatric based

so lets pretend we are badecker. and he believes what he hears
1. Dr phil says they cant xray anxiety.. oh well badecker should have no worries there is no panic. and he cant prove it as there is no xrays. so what panic is badecker referring to. he cant prove it using his own methodology

2. 360thousands die from swimming pools... um.. no just no. even without checking stats just that number alone sounds wrong.

which goes to show the so called 'doctors' that bigtree pretends are honourable because they are paid by broadcasters to be on the show. yet reality is they are paid to be on the show and read a script

this is why people need to actually find the source info. and not just blindly believe media.

(~3600 deaths in swimming pool related accidents. not 360k.. and thats why using a swimming pool has rules because even 3600 deaths is 3600 too many)

but badecker will believe bigtree and avoid finding source info.. because badecker is an idiot


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 02, 2020, 01:44:34 PM
When will covid-19 disappear?

When people realize that, at about 61,000 deaths, CV almost isn't there. All you need to do is Google it.

When people wake up to the fact that the numbers of deaths will be in the millions from starvation alone... if they don't get back to work... what are they going to do? Get back to work, or starve?


https://www.finder.com/what-are-the-top-20-causes-of-death-in-united-states
Heart disease 647457
Cancer 599108
Accidents and unintentional injuries 169936
Lung disease 160201
Stroke 146383
Alzheimer’s disease 121404
Diabetes 83564
Flu and pneumonia 55672
Kidney disease 50633
Suicide and intentional self-harm 47173


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm
Heart disease: 647,457
Cancer: 599,108
Accidents (unintentional injuries): 169,936
Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 160,201
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 146,383
Alzheimer’s disease: 121,404
Diabetes: 83,564
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome and nephrosis: 50,633
Intentional self-harm (suicide): 47,173


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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 02, 2020, 04:03:29 PM
Oh, boy. This is getting to be fun. We get to play a franky1 game again.

Now that we see what Coronavirus is all about... What? You don't know? Watch the last 16 minutes. Then watch the whole thing... before Youtube takes it down.

CORONAVIRUS A NATION DIVIDED

this was funny. bigtree using Dr phil. who is not a virus doctor or a hospital emergency doctor but psychiatric based
No wonder you are having such a problem. You are trying to apply virology to the psychology of being locked down.  :D



so lets pretend we are badecker. and he believes what he hears
1. Dr phil says they cant xray anxiety.. oh well badecker should have no worries there is no panic. and he cant prove it as there is no xrays. so what panic is badecker referring to. he cant prove it using his own methodology
So you think they can x-ray panic? You didn't even realize that Dr. Phil was talking about finding a different method to analyze anxiety and panic... like psychology. You are such a jokey-joker. :D



2. 360thousands die from swimming pools... um.. no just no. even without checking stats just that number alone sounds wrong.
Missed it by one? By 2? From swimming pools falling on them?

Poor little franky1. Can't even recognize a generalization when he hears it. But funny nonetheless. :D



which goes to show the so called 'doctors' that bigtree pretends are honourable because they are paid by broadcasters to be on the show. yet reality is they are paid to be on the show and read a script
Dr. Fauci and Dr. Brix read scripts? Come on, F-1. They say it like they believe it... you know, that it will bring a wun-world-vaccination-government into being. I'd say, pinch yourself and feel the pain. But for you, tickle yourself like the rest of the children do. :D



this is why people need to actually find the source info. and not just blindly believe media.
We found your source! It's right here in the forum. That's all you have. And we love it, because it's so entertaining. :D



(~3600 deaths in swimming pool related accidents. not 360k.. and thats why using a swimming pool has rules because even 3600 deaths is 3600 too many)

but badecker will believe bigtree and avoid finding source info.. because badecker is an idiot


Just wanted to thank you, again, F-1. Thanks for the entertainment. Thanks for furthering the fact that the Covid-19 pandemic is a news pandemic, and not a disease pandemic... except for the fake-news about CV, that is. And thank you for gradually and covertly getting your peers and friends to understand that CV is nothing, but that fake news is playing with us all.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 02, 2020, 04:32:38 PM
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672

badecker enjoys thinking covid is the same as/less than previous years flu deaths
but its already passed flu death numbers and yet since february to May is only 3 months(9 to go)

the lockdown prevented far more death than would have happened without lockdown.
yet covid has already surpassed previous YEAR of influenza/pneumonia.. and yet its only May

so imagine the numbers by december with current restrictions.. yep even higher than now
then imagine the numbers by december without there ever being a lockdown. far far far far higher

but hey badacker will be an idiot and remain an idiot.
but atleast he now quotes the full year influenza/pneumonia numbers, so now cant pretend that people died last year in larger numbers than this year.

just hope he does flip flip or declare amnesia


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 02, 2020, 06:03:12 PM
Influenza and Pneumonia: 55,672

badecker enjoys thinking covid is the same as/less than previous years flu deaths
but its already passed flu death numbers and yet since february to May is only 3 months(9 to go)

the lockdown prevented far more death than would have happened without lockdown.
yet covid has already surpassed previous YEAR of influenza/pneumonia.. and yet its only May

so imagine the numbers by december with current restrictions.. yep even higher than now
then imagine the numbers by december without there ever being a lockdown. far far far far higher

but hey badacker will be an idiot and remain an idiot.
but atleast he now quotes the full year influenza/pneumonia numbers, so now cant pretend that people died last year in larger numbers than this year.

just hope he does flip flip or declare amnesia

The statistics people are having fun showing us that the so-called Covid-19 is barely more than flue or pneumonia.

F-1 enjoys parading his ignorance by accepting virus non-sequencing (what the Chinese did, and what we are basing our tests on) as sequencing.

Why does F-1 enjoy this? Because he is trying to show that there isn't any CV, without getting caught at it by his friends and peers.

Thanks, franky1. We need all the help we can get to show folks the CV errors that are being foisted on us.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on May 02, 2020, 09:12:08 PM
I may have stretched it out by saying its directly made to kill you but take my word for it , that is the goal.  All vaccines have been disguised as something else and even the military has been involved with them. Why would the military be involved in things like this..

Here is vid saying this shot is meant to alter human behaviour, but disguised as a flu shot.  Its again from source not some idiot.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/YtbxCUJ2qhoN/

Why would anyone think Bill Gates has your health in mind, everywhere where he went, death followed. Africa, India, he honed his craft in the third world and now he's ready for the West. If you look at Bill's family, they are litterly joined at the hip with the Rockefellers, who happen to be all about depopulation and wars.



Franky I'm just following the evidence.

If a western independent lab in the US or Canada without ties to the WHO or CDC isolate the virus I'm happy to believe it. The fact is that hasn't happened, so we ask where it stops and it stops at using a method that doesn't accurately prove anything. Sort of like measuring the distance between planets using walmart telescopes.

Here is another excellent clip 3 mins long.. it should be in its own post to wake up the Asians here who are sleeping and in line for a vaccination..

Bill gates wants to remove 1,000,0000,000 people from the planet using vaccination.

1 BILLION.. that's a thousand millions for your ethereum idiots.

but the whole reduce population by 15% is a mis-information. its a reduce population growth by 15%
EG for every 2 adults. in developed countries would have 2.4 kids in the 1990's . after the millenium its more like 2.2
the idea is that through vaccinations to make people live longer and less kids die at childhood. and family planning. is that parents just end up having less kids IN THE FIRST PLACE, bringing it down to an average world total 2 kids per parent

its not about killing kids. its about making parents realise there is no need to birth 10-18 kids, where as 2 is fine.
its about slowing the exponential growth

heres a funny thing i noticed
UK government advertised the NHS is now able to cope and ok to perform normal treatments. and the one they mentioned.. fertility treatment to get the country to start making babies again for parents that usually cant

which goes to show its not about a genocide government plot. its about letting people become parents. but not to the extremes of having loads of kids


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Official james on May 02, 2020, 09:34:31 PM
I dont think is going to disappear totally rather it will be like the case of HIV that has no cure till now .


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 03, 2020, 02:26:02 AM
I dont think is going to disappear totally rather it will be like the case of HIV that has no cure till now .

Youtube and Google search on "Dr. Judy Mikovits." She will tell you the beginning of the cure for HIV, and how Dr. Fauci fired her when she was going public with the cure.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on May 03, 2020, 06:05:31 AM
in the 80's didn't Dr Fauci claim AIDS would kill a 1/3 of the planet. 2 billion people. And last month he said CV would kill 2 million americans.

It's not hard to figure out who the DR works for. Its not the people.
 


I dont think is going to disappear totally rather it will be like the case of HIV that has no cure till now .

Youtube and Google search on "Dr. Judy Mikovits." She will tell you the beginning of the cure for HIV, and how Dr. Fauci fired her when she was going public with the cure.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: vaultman on May 03, 2020, 09:16:20 AM
I think at least in the next year. Because every day a large number of people become infected and this number still growing. So the global economy will be hit hard by this long-term impact on it. Now is the good times to participate in bounty campaigns, because we are all at home and everyone has nothing to do


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 03, 2020, 09:57:42 AM
I think at least in the next year. Because every day a large number of people become infected and this number still growing. So the global economy will be hit hard by this long-term impact on it.

without lockdowns a country starting with 50 cases(imported) would hit their ICU bed capacity in 2 months
take USA. it has 20 icu beds per 100k populous (66kbeds for 330m pop)((before rampling up bed capacity in march))

using a r0 of 2.6
50, 130, 338, 879, 2285, 5941, 15446, 40159, 104414
this is why america locked down at the 4-6 week to bring the proceeding number of infections down to not hit the ~66k number by week 9
and it worked

but the down side is that the spread is only at ~33k a day = 10000 days for full spread.
even if you do a 5x multiple of asymptomatic people not tested thats still 2000 days for full population spread while keeping numbers of symptomatic at 30k a day.

yep years under current lockdown
..
but by relaxing the restrictions will increase the spread above an r0 of 1. which will speed up population spread, but will also mean more people get sick at same time causing more strain on hospital resources

for instance even just 1.1 would cause 30k daily numbers to be
30000, 33000, 36300, 39930, 43923, 48315, 53147, 58462, 64308, 70738
yep overflow in 2 and a half months. meaning another full lockdown in 2 months

this is why countries want the number do come down before relaxing.
say it was only 10k
10000, 11000, 12100, 13310
14641, 16105, 17716, 19487
21436, 23579, 25937, 28531
31384, 34523, 37975, 41772
45950, 50545, 55599, 61159
67275

which is ~5 months
so bring cases down initially by keeping full lockdown active will add another 3 months of freedom with relaxed  restrictions so people can have over 4 months of relaxation instead of 2 months

the end goal is to try and 'track and trace' infecters and their infectees to try keeping number at or below 1
because at or below 1 means its not going to increase

yep no further lockdown if it can relax restriction but keep at or below 1
which requires people to stop touching random people/things. and if they are sick stay home. and tell everyone they come into contact with in previous week to stay home too.

but this r0 of 1 would take as i said before a couple years for full spread. meaning social distancing and contact tracing for 2 years

for example. sweden does contact tracing. and they are not at a r0 of 1 or lower.
they are 1.1-1.2
meaning the numbers will rise and a few of their relaxed rules will need to be tightened.

in short. dont expect to go to music concerts in the next couple years


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: greenlanternlight01 on May 03, 2020, 12:35:15 PM
The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.


I really think that there is no way out of this pandemic situation until a complete and effective vaccine is in place for all of us. It's really scary to think that there is a second wave coming according to one of the Chinese officials which was interviewed just some weeks ago.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: thebestwp on May 03, 2020, 12:47:17 PM
The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.



Although there are some positive side to the Covid-19 but I also want to ask when this will stop properly?


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 03, 2020, 03:03:35 PM
Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.

That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.

8)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: coolcoinz on May 03, 2020, 06:35:00 PM
Yeah, it doesn't matter when because the whole virus doesn't matter at all. Some medics finally decided to do some research on the deceased (previously they were not allowed because the authorities thought that examination will spread the virus so the general rule was to burn the bodies) and it appears that all examined victims had other health problems like heart disease, diabetes, asthma, and so on.
Personally, I don't know a single person who got sick with covid-19. None of my friends, co-workers, their families and friends, there's not a single case.The "pandemic" is a joke.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 03, 2020, 07:19:18 PM
Yeah, it doesn't matter when because the whole virus doesn't matter at all. Some medics finally decided to do some research on the deceased (previously they were not allowed because the authorities thought that examination will spread the virus so the general rule was to burn the bodies) and it appears that all examined victims had other health problems like heart disease, diabetes, asthma, and so on.
Personally, I don't know a single person who got sick with covid-19. None of my friends, co-workers, their families and friends, there's not a single case.The "pandemic" is a joke.

actually your just an idiot.
people dont just walk into a hospital and die at the entrance and then sent traight to the morgue
they actually have doctors who see the symptoms. test bodily fluids and do scans

there is actual evidence in existance and test results

but it seems too many ignorant losers just beleive faux media like info wars/hotwire and other fake stuff that have no clue

diabetes does not cause pneumonia alone. but having covid which causes pneumonia and then gets into your blood causes even worse issues for people with diabeties by causing kidney failure aswell as the pneumonia

people with heart issues wont cope well when having pneumonia because the hypoxia causes people peoples heart rate to work harder and a damaged heart cant cope

its not people having a random heart attack for no reason and it just classified as covid. its actually having covid and their other complications not helping them cope/recover

atleast try better at doing research because these stupid scripts you ignorant people are spouting have been debunked and yet you lot seem to remain ignorant to not even realise that

people in hospitals have actual medical records, symptom lists, test results and scan results.
its not some magic story of sudden unexplained death where they just scribble a random cause


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Twinkledoe on May 03, 2020, 10:14:43 PM
Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.

That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.

8)

I don't know if you're serious about what you're saying here or just being satirical about it.  :P

But the question of the OP should be - when will the vaccine be released to public? Because Covid will be here in the community for years, it will not be totally contained for few months or years. Vaccine or effective treatment is our answer to have peace of mind mingling again with other people. But medical industry should make it economical and not just another source of profits for them. There are some cheap medicines that can treat the infected and those should be the one that they need to develop, not another expensive medicine for their own profits.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on May 03, 2020, 11:22:48 PM
No offense but your comment is unresearched garbage, probably Asian news repeated poorly. I'm sorry all posts with Asians end this way, its nothing personal, don't cry racism its just that you need a free and functioning society to understand what is going on in the world and you don't have that anywhere in Asia. please shut up with the vaccine BS unless you can give some hint you at least know what you're talking about. 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/YtbxCUJ2qhoN/


Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.

That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.

8)

I don't know if you're serious about what you're saying here or just being satirical about it.  :P

But the question of the OP should be - when will the vaccine be released to public? Because Covid will be here in the community for years, it will not be totally contained for few months or years. Vaccine or effective treatment is our answer to have peace of mind mingling again with other people. But medical industry should make it economical and not just another source of profits for them. There are some cheap medicines that can treat the infected and those should be the one that they need to develop, not another expensive medicine for their own profits.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 04, 2020, 03:48:23 AM

But the question of the OP should be - when will the vaccine be released to public? Because Covid will be here in the community for years, it will not be totally contained for few months or years. Vaccine or effective treatment is our answer to have peace of mind mingling again with other people. But medical industry should make it economical and not just another source of profits for them. There are some cheap medicines that can treat the infected and those should be the one that they need to develop, not another expensive medicine for their own profits.

the medical community has already shown good decentralised processes of finding a vaccine. many institutions are working on it. take for instance the cambridge trials. they are actually willing to do the work and release the info. they are not going to patent it and charge £xxxx a dose. they are going to let al countries have it and those countries make their own. (just gotta see if cambridge trials pass the tests)

this wont be a case of only the super rich can afford it. everyone will have the oppertunity to have it. including the homeless

the only question is TIME not expense
TIME to get recruits to try it.(weeks)
TIME to let it manifest in the recruits(a month)-(cambridge at this stage)
TIME to see if it creates antibodies/effects(a month)
TIME to see if there are long term side effects(many months)
(cambridge might fail and it has to all begin again)
(but if it passes all that time/tests)
TIME to then mass produce

that final point is the difference of if only Xmill can be made a week.. questioning who are those first Xmill that deserve it.
im thinking this question becomes
hospital workers on wards that are certain to come into contact with covid
followed by those friends/family near people who had it
followed by elderly most at risk of dying if they get covid but not near known infectees.
followed by others who want it


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 04, 2020, 04:05:04 AM
how i see things playing out with the 'contact and trace'
in china. the reason they got numbers down is they done very good contact and trace. for every infectee they informed ~10 close contacts to isolate. and they checked on those isolated daily for a couple weeks. bringing them food and other essentials so that they didnt go out.

those isolated as potential infectees were not given a covid test daily. instead they had temperature checked and only tested after multiple days (obviously, whats the point in testing too early before the viral load has had a chance to get high enough to even measure)

what i mean by this is dont expect to be told to isolate and get a test through the door the next day and the following day be given the all clear. expect to be self isolating for a couple weeks

AND if after the couple weeks. you go out again. this does not mean your now immune. because while isolated you may not have actually contracted it. meaning you could bump into someone else again who does have it. and you can be told to isolate yourself again.

isolation does not always mean you got it. it just means reducing the spread by reducing those who came close that might have it.
you will only be given an all clear to not need to regularly isolate if you keep bumping into people. if you have been tested positive during one of your encounters

......
however imagine countries like america.. with idiots that will:
not download any contact tracer apps to inform them they came into proximity of someone(privacy evasion)
not want to be isolated for 14 days as a precaution
not want to be checked on daily
purposely bump into people to get it/spred it. so they wont have to be routinely isolated as a precaution

heck i dont even think american 'tracers' would bother daily checking. but instead just want people to voluntarily self isolate.. possibly at most do a daily phone call to ask if the isolated person is symptomatic
and only send a test if symptomatic. or at the 12th day to allow the release at the 14th day if clear

i see daily numbers in UK/US not being as low as china's purely 'due to freedoms'


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: tsaroz on May 04, 2020, 04:23:10 AM
I believe it would be much harder to contain covid-19 in third world countries with high population density like India, Pakistan and Bangladesh and some poor African countries as more people there are likely to get the virus while on quarantine. And as the virus lives, it would keep on circulating.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 04, 2020, 04:49:08 AM
a UK draft proposal of how things will relax. shows that they will not have social distancing in work places.

meaning office workers can be shoulder to shoulder sharing the same staff canteen.
yet people walking along a outdoor pavement suppose to be 2 metres apart when just walking past someone for 2 seconds.. but allowed to be shoulder to shoulder for a 9 hour shift at work...
i see brits will start to relax too much and give up socially distancing all together with the 'im allowed to do it at work, so whats the point anymore' excuse

truly hope UK government have good planing and good success with contact tracing if they want to relax workplace restrictions that much. other wise a second ave quite quick will occur

to me it seems more of a political/economic decision. not a health risk decision


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: IIV on May 04, 2020, 06:12:44 AM
We can't hurt economy for saving a few lives. If it don't go away, we have to live with this.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Ugaitz on May 04, 2020, 08:39:37 AM

Hi. I'm new in this forum. I think that this type of pandemic due to global warming will become more common. At least, the planet seems to appreciate our confinement.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 04, 2020, 10:50:30 AM
We need more CO2 to make more plants grow healthier.
We need more healthy plants so that people are strengthened from the food they eat.
We need people to be healthier so their immune systems can overcome Covid without drugs.

8)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 04, 2020, 05:34:37 PM
How to build a life within COVID-19 reality? How long we won't be able to come out of our homes, meet other people, build relationships, etc? Sure, it all impacts on economics, including crypto market, but I'm talking about casual life. How to live in this reality?

The first and greatest thing to do to build a life in the Covid-19 reality, is to find out the foundation of what the Covid-19 reality really is.

When you build your house, it's best to have a good foundation. What is the Covid-19 foundation? It's one of thw thing:
1. There really is a Covid-19 virus that is doing the damage;
2. Big media is advertising a lie.

There are a whole lot of doctors coming out and saying that the CV numbers don't add up. So, let's get to work requiring real proof for CV rather than a bunch of hearsay blab that could easily be lies.

Only after we get the truth can we build our lives within what Covid-19 really is.

8)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 04, 2020, 07:07:29 PM
clinic doctors selling services for profit. are not the same as ICU doctors actually treating sick people with covid.
RNA tests, medical records. the fact that thousands of hospitals all around the world have independant tests and show that the rna matches. reveals its not an isolated case

if you want to think its just chinese conspiracy. then your still stuck in the delusions of january nonsense.
you need to grasp the reality.

oh. and by the way badecker . trump is coming to arizona soon. so you have no excuse to not get out your house. go see your idiot idol


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 04, 2020, 07:11:53 PM
anyway. moving on to actual issues

many idiots have been starting to plan to abuse the 'covid smartphone app' by turning their bluetooth on and visit as many places that have most population and ensure they get as many 'app contacts'.. then go home and hit the 'got symptoms' button..
causing all the people they were near in supermarkets and public places suddenly get told they need to isolate.

yep idiots want to prank people by making loads of people worried and scared and isolate even though the prankster doesnt have the symptoms

idiots


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on May 04, 2020, 07:27:39 PM
Good, its deserved, who's stupid enough to believe in or even use such a thing.


anyway. moving on to actual issues

many idiots have been starting to plan to abuse the 'covid smartphone app' by turning their bluetooth on and visit as many places that have most population and ensure they get as many 'app contacts'.. then go home and hit the 'got symptoms' button..
causing all the people they were near in supermarkets and public places suddenly get told they need to isolate.

yep idiots want to prank people by making loads of people worried and scared and isolate even though the prankster doesnt have the symptoms

idiots


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 04, 2020, 10:03:51 PM
Yeah, it doesn't matter when because the whole virus doesn't matter at all. Some medics finally decided to do some research on the deceased (previously they were not allowed because the authorities thought that examination will spread the virus so the general rule was to burn the bodies) and it appears that all examined victims had other health problems like heart disease, diabetes, asthma, and so on.
Personally, I don't know a single person who got sick with covid-19. None of my friends, co-workers, their families and friends, there's not a single case.The "pandemic" is a joke.

actually your just an idiot.
people dont just walk into a hospital and die at the entrance and then sent traight to the morgue
they actually have doctors who see the symptoms. test bodily fluids and do scans

there is actual evidence in existance and test results


This is really great! We are all waiting, on pins and needles, for you going to show the proof that the evidence you haven't shown is true and real proof!

For example, all those NIH studies yoe showed, where in all that stuff is the proof? Anybody can post fake studies on websites. All they need is NIH clearance and the NIH password.

8)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 04, 2020, 10:08:48 PM
clinic doctors selling services for profit. are not the same as ICU doctors actually treating sick people with covid.
RNA tests, medical records. the fact that thousands of hospitals all around the world have independant tests and show that the rna matches. reveals its not an isolated case

if you want to think its just chinese conspiracy. then your still stuck in the delusions of january nonsense.
you need to grasp the reality.

oh. and by the way badecker . trump is coming to arizona soon. so you have no excuse to not get out your house. go see your idiot idol

ICU doctors are not the same. I looked at them. They are all a bit different. So, because they are all getting paid a pittance compared to private doctors, why would they care about the quality of their work, or enough about the truth to write it when they are instructed to write a lie?

Anybody can write reports. What is in the reports is what counts. Can you find us a report that follows Rivers' revision of Koch's postulates?

Oh, and by the way, I have debunked everything you have posted.

8)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 04, 2020, 11:26:35 PM
doctors dont just write random things. they have samples, tests, scans which formulate to get a diagnoses
this is the 10th time now i have corrected your foolish belief that doctors just randomly choose a diagnosis

and if you studied the rna and done some research you would understand whats been done
scientists around the world took a sample of a virus and grew it under a culture and then put it into an animal and see if that animal became sick.
then testing that animal to see if it compares to the human samples
which shows the thing that made both humans and animals sick was that certain thing.
also having samples from thousands of humans with same symptomology double proves it and rules out any bad science, due to the decentralised nature of testing in different locations using different samples

again i have told you this a few times.
your ignorance does not work anymore. it just makes you look more like a time wasting idiot
your acting like trump. he too loves fake news. repeating nonsense. playing ignorant when proved wrong
pretending you didnt say what you obviously did say. not even understanding the things you say because they are not even original thoughts.

if you are really that bored. use your time to do research and learn something worthy of posting that includes actually fact checked info that isnt just old myths from months ago
(try to be original for once)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 04, 2020, 11:42:38 PM
doctors dont just write random things. they have samples, tests, scans which formulate to get a diagnoses
this is the 10th time now i have corrected your foolish belief that doctors just randomly choose a diagnosis

and if you studied the rna and done some research you would understand whats been done
scientists around the world took a sample of a virus and grew it under a culture and then put it into an animal and see if that animal became sick.
then testing that animal to see if it compares to the human samples
which shows the thing that made both humans and animals sick was that certain thing.
also having samples from thousands of humans with same symptomology double proves it and rules out any bad science, due to the decentralised nature of testing in different locations using different samples

again i have told you this a few times.
your ignorance does not work anymore. it just makes you look more like a time wasting idiot
your acting like trump. he too loves fake news. repeating nonsense. playing ignorant when proved wrong
pretending you didnt say what you obviously did say. not even understanding the things you say because they are not even original thoughts.

if you are really that bored. use your time to do research and learn something worthy of posting that includes actually fact checked info that isnt just old myths from months ago
(try to be original for once)

How do YOU know that doctors don't just write random things? I agree with you that they don't, but the point is, HOW do you know it? I mean, if you knew the way that you know it, you might actually figure out that you haven't listed any proof for Covid, yet.

If somebody became sick, and a doctor took samples of that sick person, how do you know that they found the correct virus that is making the sick person sick? A doctor has the ability to say anything. But if he is an honest doctor, he will be showing us the complete process he used to determine which virus it is, and why?

But you, even though you claim to be on the inside, haven't been able to show anything about the process... or even which process it is! What you are doing by continuing in this vein is, you are showing us that there isn't any proof for Covid. After all, the doctors involved might have discovered the polio virus in the sick people, and only SAID that it was Covid.

Not that the doctors are trying to be dishonest. But what if their process discovered Polio, and they honestly thought they had discovered Covid. Aren't we allowed to see their process? And if not, why not? Do we just have to trust that you know what you are talking about, lol. :D

Check out Dr Andrew Kaufman exposing the 'Covid-19' magic trick - the sleight of hand that transformed society - https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/. He is showing you just exactly the same things that you are saying. You are indicating that you can't find the process. And Dr. Kaufman is showing you why.

But you ARE fun to play with.

8)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 05, 2020, 06:48:38 AM
for the 11th time. you idiot
the process is well known

the rna sequence is well known
it does not match polio or

ok you want to go into the real basics
1. patient has a certain list of symptoms
EG normal flu is a wet(mucus) cough, runny nose and so on
covid is dry cough, fever and so on

so they know symptomology wise its not a normal flu
so they know symptomology and also scans and tsts its not ebola, tuberculosis, polio or other stuff
(real simple.. not the same symptoms)

next they swab the patients with this certain list of symptoms. from different locations, different countries and find the virus and then get the rna of the virus.
they compare the rna  with patients with those certain symptoms and the match

they compare it to other lists of rna from other different corona's like sars and mers. and its not a entire match but know its a close enough match to be part of the same family

they also compare it to other viruses. like polio and ebola. and its nothing like those

yep they know its not polio or ebola because the symptomology and the rna are nothing alike
then they culture the virus and grow it into enough to inject into an animal. and then they see that animal get sick.
they then test the animal and see that the rna of the virus in the animal that has the same sickness also has the same rna

..
then they call it covid19 because they know its not sars or mers. but they know its part of the corona family of virus but not the same. and also not seen in humans before. meaning its new.

this is basic stuff even you. stuck in scripts from january must know
so now its time you just give up on this script. you been debunked enough
you have been given links to the rna sequence. even you could compare them and realise it.
your ignorance to not do it does not mean no proof. just means ur an idiot.

now lets get back to the topic because you have been fully debunked


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 05, 2020, 07:48:14 AM
for the 11th time. you idiot
the process is well known

the rna sequence is well known
it does not match polio or

ok you want to go into the real basics
1. patient has a certain list of symptoms
EG normal flu is a wet(mucus) cough, runny nose and so on
covid is dry cough, fever and so on

so they know symptomology wise its not a normal flu
so they know symptomology and also scans and tsts its not ebola, tuberculosis, polio or other stuff
(real simple.. not the same symptoms)

next they swab the patients with this certain list of symptoms. from different locations, different countries and find the virus and then get the rna of the virus.
they compare the rna  with patients with those certain symptoms and the match

they compare it to other lists of rna from other different corona's like sars and mers. and its not a entire match but know its a close enough match to be part of the same family

they also compare it to other viruses. like polio and ebola. and its nothing like those

yep they know its not polio or ebola because the symptomology and the rna are nothing alike
then they culture the virus and grow it into enough to inject into an animal. and then they see that animal get sick.
they then test the animal and see that the rna of the virus in the animal that has the same sickness also has the same rna

..
then they call it covid19 because they know its not sars or mers. but they know its part of the corona family of virus but not the same. and also not seen in humans before. meaning its new.

this is basic stuff even you. stuck in scripts from january must know
so now its time you just give up on this script. you been debunked enough
you have been given links to the rna sequence. even you could compare them and realise it.
your ignorance to not do it does not mean no proof. just means ur an idiot.

now lets get back to the topic because you have been fully debunked

Outside of the fact that symptoms often overlap in various diseases, you are leaving out the most important parts.

Check the highlighted area for the place you are leaving the parts out.

How does anybody know what virus they are getting from the swab (if any), without knowing the processes they use right at the highlighted part?

The processes that you don't show at the highlighted part should include Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates. Or, it should be some other process that is similar. But you don't even show it. However, Dr. Andrew Kaufman shows what it should be like at https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/. You don't show it at all!

Since you don't even seem to understand that the most important part of the information is missing in all your blabber, your blabber isn't even blabber. Rather, it's simply slobber.

So, wake up and find us the part that is missing, or admit that we don't even know that there is a virus worth thinking of having a pandemic about.


It's like the car engine that doesn't work.
1. The engine doesn't run.
2. The mechanic checks out the engine.
3. The mechanic tells us what is wrong with the engine.
4. The mechanic fixes the engine.

Guess what's missing?
Between #2 and #3... the things the mechanic did to figure out what is wrong with the engine.
In #4... the things that the mechanic did to fix the engine.

We don't need details like, "The mechanic used his right hand to take hold of the 9/16 inch wrench. The mechanic moved the wrench over the manifold. Then he lowered the wrench onto bolt 'C' and moved the wrench in such a way that bolt 'C' turned counterclockwise. He then turned bolt 'C' the eleven turns necessary to remove it."

But we do need the details like:
The mechanic removed the air filter, then the carburetor, then the intake manifold. Once he did this, he could see that there was a frog stuck in one of the intake valves. He used a forceps to remove the frog. Then the engine ran fine.


In Rivers' revision of Koch's, there are 6 steps listed. We need to know how well those steps were followed, and if they were followed at all. If they weren't followed, what steps were followed? Simply saying that they swabbed patients and found viruses isn't enough. What did they do to find the viruses? Did they stick the swab on the light bulb? Did they toss it into the air 7 times? Did they stick it into their smock pocket? Is this how they found that the swab contained any viruses?

I don't mean to talk silly. I simply want you to show us the steps they used to determine a virus existed. Rivers' revision of Koch's is one good way to make sure they did the right steps.


Nobody wants you to do something you can't do. If you don't know what the steps were, simply tell us. If the steps aren't listed in the NIH links you gave us, tell us. But with your research experience, you should be able to tell us the steps, but at least show us where they are listed in the NIH reports if they are there.

Your real name doesn't happen to be George McFly, does it? Because you are turning yourself into our density.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Subbir on May 05, 2020, 01:29:08 PM
In fact, if COVID-19 is during this way it'll be very difficult for people to survive nobody can take the proper steps to cure this virus. The doctors can't do anything it's not getting to be controlled in the least by following the principles of the govt by adopting the proper method. subsequent step might be more frightening there's no answer now Coaches can help tons to require the proper steps.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 05, 2020, 02:09:46 PM
LOL Please .. its not even worth a real reply.. stay in the mining section because politics and current affairs is out of your league.

A vaccine doesn't help anyone.. the entire world would have to take it at the same time, and then what if they do and there is covid 20 next year, don't you see this is what the want you to do.

Call me crazy but when all facts are analyzed, and I mean analyzed and back tested, there is still 0 << YES ZERO evidence of CV 19 existing.




"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.



There are countries with warm weather, but the infection is also high, so I don't think warm weather is going to help, the world will focus in the vaccine and only a vaccine can help us make this virus disappear,there is no short cut for this, even the lock down cannot help us, it only slow down the infection but it's still ongoing.



I am not saying that vaccine is going to help us when the new virus is going to come (and we can't know that), I am saying that it will help us with this current virus (COVID-19) because nothing else is actually going to help right now if virus is not going to stop spreading because there is no cure.



Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 05, 2020, 02:22:06 PM
Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.

That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.

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Do you know that you are not exactly informed?
already, millions of people around the world have died and are still dying (including medical staff) according to your theory, for no reason. They could be informed about all sick and dead people (especially the number of these people) who have their families and loved ones. And now you are saying that all this is a lie and that these people died for no reason.

😎


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 05, 2020, 02:24:14 PM
The question "when will quarantine and self-isolation end"? whole world wonders.
In some countries, they are already loosening up some measures, and in some countries they still need to be strictly adhered to.
The situation, of course, is not easy anywhere, but by loosening the measures we do not know whether the number of infected will start to rise again or continue to decline.
Most measures have yielded results, some countries have introduced stringent measures at the outset, with fewer infected, while some countries have recently introduced and have people with health and financial problems.
"How long will this take?", We know that the covid-19 virus, by its constitution, does not tolerate warmer weather and should start to disappear with warmer weather.
It is also assumed that there will be a new wave of viruses in the fall, but we do not know for sure.
We can only hope that these measures we currently have in place will begin to loosen, but for a long time we will feel far from each other for example going to schools and colleges, going out and the like.
For now, all we have to do is watch for the "wave" to pass as soon as possible.
In terms of finance, it will be a challenge for almost all the world's authorities.
We can hope that this summer will be all right and that we will all be able to somehow get our lives back to normal, but we know it will be a challenge.
Let's take a look at the positive side, animals can be free and plants develop.
It needed something to help the ozone layer and nature clean up, and I think this situation is just that it helped at least a little.
Let's be smart and keep the greatest treasure - our planet Earth.



Although there are some positive side to the Covid-19 but I also want to ask when this will stop properly?




No one knows it for now, but hopefully soon. Some states announce that everything should be normal by summer, but no one can be sure.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 05, 2020, 02:25:42 PM
things like guidelines for swabs. even videos of doctors doing it. heck the process of the testing is all available ..
but an ignorant idiot has no clue how to research away from his 5 chosen links he prefers to frequent.
the process is public info
the fact that many hospitals around the world come to the same results show that its not just some single doctor doing something wrong.

but an idiot cant grasp that
..........


anyway going back to the topic
i just done a graph of UK 'new daily cases' since they had their first couple cases
the purple -*- at the start is pre-lockdown.
the orange -*-is the numbers during lockdown
the orange * is after May. and is just a prediction of a R0 of 0.8 continuing on as if lockdown stayed in place
then the grey is an example of the exponential growth of just an r0 of 1.1 yep only 1.1 if lockdown relaxed this week
then yellow * is if lockdown relaxed a month later (r0 of 1.1)
dark blue * is if lockdown relaxed the following month (r0 of 1.1)
then light blue * is if lockdown relaxed on the first week of septembers new acedemic year (r0 of 1.1)

https://i.imgur.com/KN3Oduu.png
as you can see relaxing now even with a low growth of 1.1 = just ~6 weeks until it hits 'the peak'
waiting a further month then relaxing allows for over 3 months before it hits 'the peak'
waiting until july then relaxing allows for ~ 5 months before hitting 'the peak'

which shows with no social distancing an r0 is 2.6+. (pre lockdown+ first two weeks of lockdown while its takes action)
but if you have some form of social distancing/tracing but without full isolation and manage to get only a growth of 1.1, its still too early to just relax things too much without it hitting a second wave peak quickly


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 05, 2020, 02:35:38 PM

Hi. I'm new in this forum. I think that this type of pandemic due to global warming will become more common. At least, the planet seems to appreciate our confinement.


Yes, that is the positive side of this pandemic and we should love our planet Earth.🌎l


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 05, 2020, 02:39:38 PM
When will covid-19 disappear?

As soon as somebody opens his/her eyes.     8)



I would ask you not to leave such nonsensical comments as they are really unnecessary and have respect for other opinions.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 05, 2020, 02:44:03 PM
Now that we see what Coronavirus is all about... What? You don't know? Watch the last 16 minutes. Then watch the whole thing... before Youtube takes it down.


CORONAVIRUS A NATION DIVIDED
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wpfxvXjAnvk/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLBJ4uG4n8ripS59niMQ4o9bYVV-JA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpfxvXjAnvk&t=110m (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpfxvXjAnvk&t=110m)


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The only thing you do is find some information that is obviously not true and post it here to prove something that is not true. Of course the media is full of false information, but as for the existence of covid - 19 it certainly exists because, as I stated before, a million people have already died from the disease and you are proving that it is not real. Everyone has their own opinion, and so you are not to disrespect your opinion, but I try to correct it.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 05, 2020, 03:01:55 PM
small correction for lucija .. its more like a quarter of a mill so far
but places like america are at over 60k excess deaths above normal
its not 60k deaths shifted from one category to another. its 60k EXCESS above the norm
USA usually has flu/pneumona deaths of 4k a week. but take the week of 4th april has 13k. because it still lists ~4k of normal flu/pneumonia. but also ~8k excess deaths of just covid(COVID TESTED)
the very fact that numbers from all causes/other causes still calulate the same. means its not a shift of death. and the new deaths ontop being covid confirmed

(u07.1 CDC confirmed=CDC main lab double checked (u0001))
(u07.1 CDC presumed=local/regional lab tested. cdc trust quality of these labs (u0002))


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 05, 2020, 06:59:42 PM
Now that we see what Coronavirus is all about... What? You don't know? Watch the last 16 minutes. Then watch the whole thing... before Youtube takes it down.


CORONAVIRUS A NATION DIVIDED
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wpfxvXjAnvk/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLBJ4uG4n8ripS59niMQ4o9bYVV-JA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpfxvXjAnvk&t=110m (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpfxvXjAnvk&t=110m)


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The only thing you do is find some information that is obviously not true and post it here to prove something that is not true. Of course the media is full of false information, but as for the existence of covid - 19 it certainly exists because, as I stated before, a million people have already died from the disease and you are proving that it is not real. Everyone has their own opinion, and so you are not to disrespect your opinion, but I try to correct it.

No disrespect meant, but where is your proof for Covid-19? Unless you have personally analyzed some body fluids from a sick person, how do you know that someone else is telling the truth? For example, franky1 is all over the idea that Covid exists in a dangerous way. But he can't even find the part of a report that shows the process steps a researcher went through to find out that something was Covid, and not simply the flu.

In other words, do you have even one piece of proof outside of trusting what others say? There may not be many of us who would like to see the proof. But some of us would. Please show us.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 05, 2020, 07:02:21 PM
small correction for lucija .. its more like a quarter of a mill so far
but places like america are at over 60k excess deaths above normal
its not 60k deaths shifted from one category to another. its 60k EXCESS above the norm
USA usually has flu/pneumona deaths of 4k a week. but take the week of 4th april has 13k. because it still lists ~4k of normal flu/pneumonia. but also ~8k excess deaths of just covid(COVID TESTED)
the very fact that numbers from all causes/other causes still calulate the same. means its not a shift of death. and the new deaths ontop being covid confirmed

(u07.1 CDC confirmed=CDC main lab double checked (u0001))
(u07.1 CDC presumed=local/regional lab tested. cdc trust quality of these labs (u0002))

Except that the stats show that it is NOT 60k above normal. Rather it is barely above 60k total, which is barely above normal.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: XarXymtroa on May 05, 2020, 07:29:04 PM
My guess would be mid 2021  :-[


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BluePowder on May 05, 2020, 09:06:41 PM
If you just want to read the news and relay the bad info go somewhere else. If you want to actually discuss some of the fraud and tricks and issues related to this then say what you mean, but relaying the news as fact is pointless. Every country that I followed in the western world has been lying. They don't even hide it, but its much deeper than that as the CV19 tests and testing and what they're even testing for is not even established properly. regardless even if there is a CV, the response has been a scam.




Again, there are two circumstances wherein Covid-19 will disappear:
1. If the people wake up to see that it is faked by the leaders of the medical;
2. When the medical has something new fake thing for people to focus on.

That's it! Covid-19 is a lie and a scam for the medical to use to make money.

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Do you know that you are not exactly informed?
already, millions of people around the world have died and are still dying (including medical staff) according to your theory, for no reason. They could be informed about all sick and dead people (especially the number of these people) who have their families and loved ones. And now you are saying that all this is a lie and that these people died for no reason.

😎


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 06, 2020, 03:46:38 PM
My guess would be mid 2021  :-[

nobody know that, we hope sooner better🤷‍♀️


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: elisabetheva on May 07, 2020, 12:32:23 PM
My guess would be mid 2021  :-[
no one can be sure exactly when the covid corona pandemic will end. because what is clear is where it started to start, namely Wuhan in China alone, now it is being affected by the second pandemic. where the arrival of its citizens from other countries experiencing a pandemic brought with it the pandemic. many say that the pandemic will end when summer comes, but that is also just a prediction. which can be sure of course when drugs have been found and vaccines can also be made and can be given to those who are still healthy to break the chain of transmission. I hope all this can end soon and be handled well with the help of cooperation between countries to break the chain of transmission.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 07, 2020, 03:57:47 PM
There isn't any proof for Covid shown. I asked smarty pants franky1 a question at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243738.msg54364745#msg54364745. I would like the answer, and until the answer comes into the open, we don't know even if there is a Covid-19.

Anybody who has inside knowledge, like a doctor...

Or anybody who has clear doctor info like I requested at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243738.msg54364745#msg54364745 ...

Please come forward and do one or both of two things:
1. Prove that Covid-19 exists;
2. Prove that tests for it are real.

I'm not looking for all kinds of talk. I want facts and details.

The details don't have to be so great as to say, "Next, the doctor lifted his/her right arm 6 inches."

However, lets get reports that at least include the application of Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates as shown by Dr. Andrew Kaufman at https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/.

If we don't get these things, how can we even guess if some doctor did what it takes to show that there is a Covid-19? Dr. Kaufman in the above video shows that the Chinese reports didn't include what it takes to prove anything. They did some lab work, wrote some reports that said that Covid existed, but the lab work doesn't conclusively show that Covid exists. In fact, the report shows that the lab work was useless for proving anything.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 07, 2020, 09:46:24 PM
i gave the idiot above links to the genome sequences done by multiple labs in multiple countries which showed that through their individual processes they found the same results. {1} (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/)

the results were from individual patients which had the same symptoms so having the same genome results shows they narrowed it down to being the same pathogen cause.

they also done studies on rodents by infecting a healthy rodent with a pathogen and when it too got sick they knew they had the pathogen narrowed down{2} (http://www.informatics.jax.org/mgihome/other/images/SARS-CoV-2Sm.png)
there is actual viral microscope images of covid showing it as a ball shape with spikes. which shows its nothing like an ebola virus which looks like knotted rope.

they have results that its similar to other corona virals like SARS and MERS meaning its the covid family. but not exact enough to actually be the near 2 decade of SARS strain
they realised it has never been discovered in humans before 2019 and so they called it covid19.

they know the genome{1} (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/)
they know what the virus looks like physically{2} (http://www.informatics.jax.org/mgihome/other/images/SARS-CoV-2Sm.png)
they know what protein enzymes it has
they have a list of symptomology that it causes
heck they even know how it invades the cells by using the ace2 receptor

but badecker will remain stuck in the past of january myths. and will just dismiss this answer like the other topics. and will just pretend it has not been answered by asking it again after a few days/in another topic. like the idiot he is

or instead badecker can try researching for once.
its called google. type in a search and you will find it.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 08, 2020, 12:52:58 AM
i gave the idiot above links to the genome sequences done by multiple labs in multiple countries which showed that through their individual processes they found the same results. {1} (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/)

the results were from individual patients which had the same symptoms so having the same genome results shows they narrowed it down to being the same pathogen cause.

they also done studies on rodents by infecting a healthy rodent with a pathogen and when it too got sick they knew they had the pathogen narrowed down{2} (http://www.informatics.jax.org/mgihome/other/images/SARS-CoV-2Sm.png)
there is actual viral microscope images of covid showing it as a ball shape with spikes. which shows its nothing like an ebola virus which looks like knotted rope.

they have results that its similar to other corona virals like SARS and MERS meaning its the covid family. but not exact enough to actually be the near 2 decade of SARS strain
they realised it has never been discovered in humans before 2019 and so they called it covid19.

they know the genome{1} (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/)
they know what the virus looks like physically{2} (http://www.informatics.jax.org/mgihome/other/images/SARS-CoV-2Sm.png)
they know what protein enzymes it has
they have a list of symptomology that it causes
heck they even know how it invades the cells by using the ace2 receptor

but badecker will remain stuck in the past of january myths. and will just dismiss this answer like the other topics. and will just pretend it has not been answered by asking it again after a few days/in another topic. like the idiot he is

or instead badecker can try researching for once.
its called google. type in a search and you will find it.

Cute, fuzzy little picture - http://www.informatics.jax.org/mgihome/other/images/SARS-CoV-2Sm.png. Some colored cotton balls floating in the air above a vacuum cleaner air blast, and a little out of focus... with a dark background.

Anybody can make up numbers. But where in the reports is the process? You have a nice link there, with all kinds of words and numbers - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ - but it doesn't have the Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates in it anywhere. Or did I miss it?

Could you point it out, please? Nice evidence, but nowhere near the proof required. Or Does Dr. Andrew Kaufman agree with you?... https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/? Send him an email and ask.

Now don't get me wrong. Perhaps somebody has proof. But don't tell me that you can apply genome proof to all kinds of patients around the world in the short periods of time that they are saying that Covid is the culprit. Most of those patients had all kinds of other diseases and maladies. At absolute best, Covid only sped things up a little. But there is no way to prove it. Can't even tell for sure which patients even had a Coronavirus in them, much less determining that it was Covid that did them in.

Or do you know of a way?

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 08, 2020, 02:46:07 PM
It will never disappear. It should be like the flu - every year. We just need to wait for a vaccine.

Many common everyday little illnesses disappear when people turn their backs on them. Covid isn't any different than all those little diseases. The only thing keeping CV visible is the masks on the faces of people all over the place.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: KingScorpio on May 08, 2020, 11:19:02 PM
hopefully never i enjoy the pandemie, i hope it will wipe out large sections of the mad third world, especially middle east and africa needs to be punished for their stupidity.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 09, 2020, 12:33:08 AM
Anybody can make up numbers. But where in the reports is the process? You have a nice link there, with all kinds of words and numbers - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ - but it doesn't have the Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates in it anywhere. Or did I miss it?

you might want to check the link. all the info is there
including the process
your ignorance does not prove there is no process your ignorance proves you want to deny there is a process

heck if you finally accept the process but then want to say it must be the equipment
EG if all roads were motorcycle lanes. youll never find a car..
again the link shows different equipment and also different methods of using the different equipment

heck if you accept different equipment but then want to say its the hospital/doctor. again the link shows different hospitals different labs different countries.

in short if there are 100 different ways to identify a tree. and you have 1000 people sampling a tree and they all match up.. .. then its a tree

oh and the NIH site also has lots of things like xrays and blood tests results and stuff from patient medical records

and before you troll on the next level that we are all in the matrix and nothing is real.. now you really would need to sort your head out


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Royalsparrow on May 09, 2020, 04:43:38 AM
A lot of that is going to depend on what we as countries, as societies, do. If we do the testing of every single case, the rapid isolation of the cases, we should be able to keep cases down low. If you simply rely on the big shut down measures without finding every case, then every time you take the brakes off, it could come back in waves. But we probably haven’t optimized how we used that time. Now what we’ve done is, we’ve gained time again by putting in place these big shutdowns. All they do is they buy time, they don’t actually stop the virus, they suppress it, they slow it. What you want to do now is use that time well to get the testing in place, to get the systems in place, so that you can actually manage the individual level cases that are going to be fundamental to stopping this.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 09, 2020, 12:13:43 PM
Anybody can make up numbers. But where in the reports is the process? You have a nice link there, with all kinds of words and numbers - https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/genbank/sars-cov-2-seqs/ - but it doesn't have the Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates in it anywhere. Or did I miss it?

you might want to check the link. all the info is there
including the process
your ignorance does not prove there is no process your ignorance proves you want to deny there is a process

heck if you finally accept the process but then want to say it must be the equipment
EG if all roads were motorcycle lanes. youll never find a car..
again the link shows different equipment and also different methods of using the different equipment

heck if you accept different equipment but then want to say its the hospital/doctor. again the link shows different hospitals different labs different countries.

in short if there are 100 different ways to identify a tree. and you have 1000 people sampling a tree and they all match up.. .. then its a tree

oh and the NIH site also has lots of things like xrays and blood tests results and stuff from patient medical records

and before you troll on the next level that we are all in the matrix and nothing is real.. now you really would need to sort your head out

Too much NIH info for you, right? That's why you can't even find a process like Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates, right?

However, if you could find it, you still wouldn't be able to list the points, and point at the location, right?

Keep on blabbing. That way you will keep on getting paid.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 09, 2020, 12:47:08 PM
Covid isn't any different than all those little diseases.

Arguably different, cuz it seems to be resulted from the man-made virus designed to affect the human body in the most effective way. No one  is  aware what he has in his arsenal.

TLDR

the Wuhan coronavirus is a bioweapon made using ZC45/ZXC21 as a template.

AS you said, "it seems." But we don't know, because Dr. Brix (Trump's team), the CDC, and others all over the world tell us that it is Covid, and that even if it isn't, to say it is Covid. This means that nobody knows who had what. Because of this, some charts show Covid going up while everything else is going down. We're being played.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: noormcs5 on May 09, 2020, 01:42:55 PM
It will never disappear. It should be like the flu - every year. We just need to wait for a vaccine.

Why are you speaking the words of "White House" and "WHO". They don't want the virus to disappear so that they can keep creating panic in the world and want people / countries to destory so that world can be controlled by "New World Order".


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: franky1 on May 09, 2020, 05:57:28 PM
AS you said, "it seems." But we don't know, because Dr. Brix (Trump's team), the CDC, and others all over the world tell us that it is Covid, and that even if it isn't, to say it is Covid. This means that nobody knows who had what. Because of this, some charts show Covid going up while everything else is going down. We're being played.

charts of 'other' are not going down.
idiot
CDCreports of deaths when they do their double checks show that the numbers increased
on average the death of all causes is ~57k a week. but it got progressively much more each week while infections of covid started.

normal influenza death were only 400. so its not like that number can impact the thousands. so something new is killing people recently

anyway. i know your just going to bait and switch arguments back to koch. so ill save you time
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.07.939389v3.full
theres just one of many koch proof that what they test for is the virus because when they put it into other animals. they get sick too
they examine it using many different methods. so you cant say its a fault method. again for the many times.
when there are soo many independant tests using different patients in different hospitals and different labs with different equipment and different methods. all coming to the same results.  it passes koch postulum

try using google but without limiting it to your freeman site. and you will get better results


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 09, 2020, 08:36:25 PM
AS you said, "it seems." But we don't know, because Dr. Brix (Trump's team), the CDC, and others all over the world tell us that it is Covid, and that even if it isn't, to say it is Covid. This means that nobody knows who had what. Because of this, some charts show Covid going up while everything else is going down. We're being played.

charts of 'other' are not going down.
idiot
CDCreports of deaths when they do their double checks show that the numbers increased
on average the death of all causes is ~57k a week. but it got progressively much more each week while infections of covid started.

normal influenza death were only 400. so its not like that number can impact the thousands. so something new is killing people recently

anyway. i know your just going to bait and switch arguments back to koch. so ill save you time
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.07.939389v3.full
theres just one of many koch proof that what they test for is the virus because when they put it into other animals. they get sick too
they examine it using many different methods. so you cant say its a fault method. again for the many times.
when there are soo many independant tests using different patients in different hospitals and different labs with different equipment and different methods. all coming to the same results.  it passes koch postulum

try using google but without limiting it to your freeman site. and you will get better results

If you would look at the credible sites in your searches, you might find out what is REALLY going on.

Vitamin C, vitamin D3, iodine, and zinc in massive quantities protects everyone from all of it, not only the few cases of Covid that might be around.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: coolcoinz on May 10, 2020, 09:20:19 PM
Yeah, it doesn't matter when because the whole virus doesn't matter at all. Some medics finally decided to do some research on the deceased (previously they were not allowed because the authorities thought that examination will spread the virus so the general rule was to burn the bodies) and it appears that all examined victims had other health problems like heart disease, diabetes, asthma, and so on.
Personally, I don't know a single person who got sick with covid-19. None of my friends, co-workers, their families and friends, there's not a single case.The "pandemic" is a joke.

actually your just an idiot.
people dont just walk into a hospital and die at the entrance and then sent traight to the morgue
they actually have doctors who see the symptoms. test bodily fluids and do scans

there is actual evidence in existance and test results

but it seems too many ignorant losers just beleive faux media like info wars/hotwire and other fake stuff that have no clue

diabetes does not cause pneumonia alone. but having covid which causes pneumonia and then gets into your blood causes even worse issues for people with diabeties by causing kidney failure aswell as the pneumonia

people with heart issues wont cope well when having pneumonia because the hypoxia causes people peoples heart rate to work harder and a damaged heart cant cope

its not people having a random heart attack for no reason and it just classified as covid. its actually having covid and their other complications not helping them cope/recover

atleast try better at doing research because these stupid scripts you ignorant people are spouting have been debunked and yet you lot seem to remain ignorant to not even realise that

people in hospitals have actual medical records, symptom lists, test results and scan results.
its not some magic story of sudden unexplained death where they just scribble a random cause

Why so angry? Do you always react to skeptics this way? Take a chill pill.

They do take scans and it happens that the same people can be tested positive and negative for corona at the same time. There was a case in a nearby town where a kid had a brain tumotr and he felt sick and had fever so they diagnosed him with coronavirus. It took them an hour to get him to a hospital because "procedures". Then hthey took 2 samples from him and sent them to their local lab in the hospital and another one in a nearby epidemiology center. The first one came out negative and the second one positive. Of course he really did not have covid.
Scans are useless, just as face masks and washing hands. GB prime minister was washing hands a lot...


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 10, 2020, 10:08:11 PM
Ventilators are killing people right and left. Or is it the medical who is applying the ventilators?

I expect that the medical is genuinely trying to help people. But their leaders are keeping most of them in the dark about what is really happening.

The hospitals are empty, because people understand this, and are fleeing for their lives.

Note that the article has a reasonable bibliography.


COVID: Breathing Ventilators, New York, Death Rate (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/282533-2020-05-09-covid-breathing-ventilators-new-york-death-rate.htm)



JAMA Network, April 22, 2020, "Presenting Characteristics, Comorbidities, and Outcomes Among 5700 Patients Hospitalized With COVID-19 in the New York City Area":

"Mortality rates for those who received mechanical ventilation in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups were 76.4% and 97.2%, respectively. Mortality rates for those in the 18-to-65 and older-than-65 age groups who did not receive mechanical ventilation were 19.8% and 26.6%, respectively."

Well, of course, the people who were put on ventilators were the most ill patients to begin with, right? Perhaps. We don't know that.

In any case, the numbers are shocking.

...

From Medscape, there is more: “Life-threatening breathing difficulties can occur in patients who use gabapentin or pregabalin with opioids or other drugs that depress the central nervous system, as well as those with underlying respiratory impairment and the elderly, the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) warned in a drug safety communication issued today.”

2018 estimate of deaths from opioid overdoses in New York: 3000. Many more people in the New York area are addicted to these drugs. In New York State, in 2017, the number of people discharged from hospitals, after treatment for opioid overdose or dependency: 25,000.

In 2020, still more people who have developed opioid hypoxia would be missed, because they are diagnosed with “COVID-19 lung problems.” Some of these people would be put on ventilators—ignoring the need to deal with their overdose, their addiction, their withdrawal—and they would die.


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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: stabls on May 11, 2020, 10:12:13 AM
People I trust predict an epidemic of up to 3 years. However, this may be flare-ups. Many say that in the summer the epidemic will almost go away, but then will return again in the fall.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: elisabetheva on May 11, 2020, 10:33:49 AM
People I trust predict an epidemic of up to 3 years. However, this may be flare-ups. Many say that in the summer the epidemic will almost go away, but then will return again in the fall.
what you say has indeed been reported in a number of media around the world, but it cannot be an exact basis. because in tropical countries this pandemic remains a threat and many are infected, so what is predicted cannot be a reference. This pandemic will be able to end if the drug has been found if only "lockdown" will only break the chain of transmission, but the pandemic is still there and can develop again. there are no other words that drugs and vaccines must be found immediately to overcome this pandemic.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 11, 2020, 01:41:13 PM
People I trust predict an epidemic of up to 3 years. However, this may be flare-ups. Many say that in the summer the epidemic will almost go away, but then will return again in the fall.

Keep on trusting them. Then make sure that they themselves aren't causing the flare-ups, or that they aren't mouth-pieces for those who are causing the flare-ups. Do your own research, and compare it with theirs.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Chrystora123 on May 11, 2020, 04:13:23 PM
if a vaccine from this virus exists then it must have been discovered since sars first became epidemic in 2003 (thousands of genius scientists have worked very hard).  learned from the first sars case (in 2003) then mers (middle east sars) virus just disappeared..  I believe that what can save us from this "pandemic" is a miracle, let those who believe in God continue to pray because "prayer changes everything", it may not change immediately but it will definitely change..


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 12, 2020, 11:22:07 PM
When will covid-19 disappear? When we take a stand against the lockdowns and shutdowns of our rights and freedoms.

There are three ways we can do this:
1. Get physical (which it looks like Michigan is doing);
2. Take people to court, who hinder us from doing things we have the right to do;
3. Comply involuntarily, and send them a bill/invoice... for, say, $250,000 an instance... or more;
3a. And then sue them for intentional non-payment to the tune of $10 million or more.


Michigan militia members take a stand, say they won't let cops arrest 77-year-old barber... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/282688-2020-05-12-michigan-militia-members-take-a-stand-say-they-wont-let.htm)



Michigan militia members are taking a stand against Democratic Governor Gretchen Whitmer, saying that they won't let police arrest 77-year-old Karl Manke, who defied her COVID-19 shutdown order last week when he opened his Owosso barbershop.

"We are here to make sure he doesn't get arrested," Daniel Brewer told WEYI-TV. "We're willing to stand in front of that door and block the entrance so the police will have no entry there today."

The barbershop has been open since last Monday, and it was absolutely packed with customers on the first morning after the reopening. On Saturday, dozens of supporters gathered outside the barbershop while fifteen waited in line inside to get haircuts.


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EDIT: There is a law regarding the death penalty. It is a Federal Court legally adjudicated law that has never been repealed or overruled. It is directed against government people who won't back down when shown their mistakes in law. It could make any and all laws against the death penalty obsolete if it is used properly. Listen here - https://www.talkshoe.com/conf/summary/6074645 - to hear about this law.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Alamgirsony on May 13, 2020, 03:31:56 AM
Coronavirus: COVID-19 How long will the global epidemic take?

The world is closed. The places that are crowded  with people walking now look haunted. Restrictions on daily movement, School closure, travel bands, restrictions on public gatherings-all these have created this situation.

The way the whole world has responded to prevent a disease is unprecedented.

But where is the end of it?? When will people be able to return to their normal daily life?

The prime minister of the United Kingdom Boris Johnson has said that Britain will be able to "turn the tide" of the coronavirus in 12 weeks. A total of one and a half weeks have passed so far.

The number of infections will decrease within three months, but coronavirus infections has a long way to go.

It may take up to a few years.

It is clear that the way bid cities are being shut down and rules are being imposed on people’s daily movements is not possible in the long run. If everything is closed like this, the social and economic impact will be severe.

Countries need to find a strategy to get out of this situation. We have to find a way to get back to normal life by lifting the restrictions.

It is true that the imposition of restrictions has made it possible to prevent the spread of coronavirus. If these restrictions are lifted, the number of infections will increase a lot.

There’s a big problem with what the strategy is for getting out of here and how we get out of there," said mark woolhouse, a Professor of infectious disease at the university of Edinburgh.

He said no country in the world has a strategy on the issue.

Fixing this strategy is a big Scientific and social challenge.

There are three ways to do this.

1. Vaccinated
2.Many people become infected as a result of the virus.
3.Or to bring about a permanent change in the behavior of people and society.

It will take 12 to 18 months for the vaccine to arrive. If they received this vaccine, they will not get sick from exposure to the coronavirus. The more people that can be vaccinated the better, if 80 percent of the population were vaccinated, the virus would not spread.

Coronavirus has already been tested experimentally in the United States. When a vaccine is discovered, it is first tested on an animal. In this case, special approval has been applied to the people first.

Work is in full swing to discover a vaccine for coronavirus. But whether it will be successful or whether the vaccine will be given around the world. He is not sure.                            

                                                    
    

      


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 13, 2020, 09:57:51 AM
There are two kinds of Covid-19:
1. The actual virus;
2. Covid-19 panic talk.

The fastest way to get rid of Covid-19 is to express the simple truth about it. The simple truth is something that is easy to understand, yet is complete enough to get to the point.

The following chart from TECSHARE covers everything we need to know about the virus and how to get rid of it.

https://api.time.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/coromnavirus-vs-flu.png

https://time.com/5798168/coronavirus-mortality-rate/

Get rid of the virus by recognizing that we are being lied to about its dangers - lied to by government, the medical, and the media - and then get rid of the fear in our minds.

We might go the next step of chastising our government, media, and medical people in court so that it doesn't happen again in the near future.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Cootie on May 18, 2020, 09:21:41 AM
The end of this pandemic depends on the development of vaccine for it. Even the richest of countries having a hard time treating the disease it will definitely take indefinitely long amount of time to create a vaccine for it. Even those pioneering in the development vaccine can only give hypotheses because they also not know when and which of their trials will to success. And also, What makes it hard to tell when will this ends is there are many factors that can affect and alter the progression of our situation.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: bolawin on May 18, 2020, 09:58:33 AM
I hear soon will be disappear, but who know maybe there new type of corona.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Subbir on May 19, 2020, 02:41:36 PM
The end of this pandemic depends on the development of vaccine for it. Even the richest of countries having a hard time treating the disease it will definitely take indefinitely long amount of time to create a vaccine for it. Even those pioneering in the development vaccine can only give hypotheses because they also not know when and which of their trials will to success. And also, What makes it hard to tell when will this ends is there are many factors that can affect and alter the progression of our situation.


I would not be so sure of that. The vaccine will be made only for a specific strain. I think that new ones will appear closer to the fall. I'm getting ready for the worst.

You're right, there's getting to be a worse situation ahead because initially no vaccine for this disease has been invented Without the vaccine many countries are ready to resist the virus to some extent Physicians and scientists haven't found how to stop it. therein case, our only hope is in God He can protect us from bad situations if he wants to.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2020, 04:20:30 PM
The end of this pandemic depends on the development of vaccine for it. Even the richest of countries having a hard time treating the disease it will definitely take indefinitely long amount of time to create a vaccine for it. Even those pioneering in the development vaccine can only give hypotheses because they also not know when and which of their trials will to success. And also, What makes it hard to tell when will this ends is there are many factors that can affect and alter the progression of our situation.


I would not be so sure of that. The vaccine will be made only for a specific strain. I think that new ones will appear closer to the fall. I'm getting ready for the worst.

You're right, there's getting to be a worse situation ahead because initially no vaccine for this disease has been invented Without the vaccine many countries are ready to resist the virus to some extent Physicians and scientists haven't found how to stop it. therein case, our only hope is in God He can protect us from bad situations if he wants to.

If it takes two years to develop a vaccine, people will almost have forgotten the pandemic by then. Why? Because Covid will go away by itself, just like SARS and MERS and a whole lot of other diseases have.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: madnessteat on May 19, 2020, 08:19:41 PM
If it takes two years to develop a vaccine, people will almost have forgotten the pandemic by then. Why? Because Covid will go away by itself, just like SARS and MERS and a whole lot of other diseases have.

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If clinical trials are conducted as expected, it may take up to 4 years. Most likely, in less than two years, mankind will develop a collective immunity and the coronavirus will be forced to mutate into a form in which man and the virus will coexist in a less aggressive form when the virus stops destroying man.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 20, 2020, 12:05:36 AM
If it takes two years to develop a vaccine, people will almost have forgotten the pandemic by then. Why? Because Covid will go away by itself, just like SARS and MERS and a whole lot of other diseases have.

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If clinical trials are conducted as expected, it may take up to 4 years. Most likely, in less than two years, mankind will develop a collective immunity and the coronavirus will be forced to mutate into a form in which man and the virus will coexist in a less aggressive form when the virus stops destroying man.

The virus essentially stopped a long time ago.

Tucker: Now we see that COVID lockdowns aren't the only solution
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QIf2audbX0Q/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEiCKgBEF5IWvKriqkDFQgBFQAAAAAYASUAAMhCPQCAokN4AQ==&rs=AOn4CLBddiAr38tK-4gHhSaYNFyqgsOM1Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIf2audbX0Q (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIf2audbX0Q)


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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: madnessteat on May 20, 2020, 03:56:44 AM
~The virus essentially stopped a long time ago.~

Unfortunately, I don't live in the USA, but in Russia.  :(

I have a friend who works in a fairly large hospital. He handles electricity and telephony there. I talked to him the other day and he says that new patients continue to come to the infectious diseases department and there are quite a few of them.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: visa2020 on May 20, 2020, 12:32:07 PM
Well if we listen to Eric Trump - Then its November 3rd 2020 - Crazy concept, dont know why he has ideas like that?   ::)

See the following article, there are interesting bits, I promise, just scroll past the Trump concept.  ;D

https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/05/17/why-covid-19-coronavirus-will-not-just-go-away-what-does-endemic-mean/#697d0e366598 (https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/05/17/why-covid-19-coronavirus-will-not-just-go-away-what-does-endemic-mean/#697d0e366598)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: af_newbie on May 20, 2020, 01:01:19 PM
Eventually.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elWnURZpWCA


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 20, 2020, 04:41:09 PM
When will covid-19 disappear?

Covid the disease... in about a year and a half from the timestamp of this post.

Covid the fake pandemic propagated by government/media/medical lies... whenever the people wake up. But never if they allow government to become a dictatorship over them.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on May 20, 2020, 05:49:01 PM
I hear soon will be disappear, but who know maybe there new type of corona.

It will not probably completely disappear, but it will be a lot less people who are infected, some scientists say that there will be more viruses similar to covid - 19. I don't know how to feel about that, but let's just hope everything will be fine.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Bezobraznike on May 21, 2020, 10:12:09 AM
When will covid-19 disappear?

Covid the disease... in about a year and a half from the timestamp of this post.

Covid the fake pandemic propagated by government/media/medical lies... whenever the people wake up. But never if they allow government to become a dictatorship over them.

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   To me it looks like that too. I don't know who did all this, but in many countries it was the same. I don't think
we will get rid of this virus, Corona will be used by governments at least one more time, there's a talk about
second wave already!
   We allowed governments to become dictatorship in the past few months! Fines were to high if you break any
rule!


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: nomenclatur on May 21, 2020, 12:07:27 PM
covid-19 really scary to make everyone must be vigilant to do activities at home everything should be done in the house to survive in these difficult times everyone is enjoined to comply with government regulation of the worst things to see many people who complain to conditions difficult many deaths occur around the world sooner or later covid-19 will disappear and the human free from this virus.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: xen1oph on May 21, 2020, 12:25:40 PM
The epidemic is only in people's minds. Go about your business, do something good, or just enjoy life, you only have one!
Epidemics and other situations have already been and will be in the future, but if you focus on this, then your life will become simply unbearable.
All the best in this world does not disappear during the epidemic, you just mistakenly began to focus on the bad, not the good.
This world is beautiful, never forget it! :)


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: PavelMed on May 22, 2020, 05:09:46 PM
The epidemic is only in people's minds. Go about your business, do something good, or just enjoy life, you only have one!
Epidemics and other situations have already been and will be in the future, but if you focus on this, then your life will become simply unbearable.
All the best in this world does not disappear during the epidemic, you just mistakenly began to focus on the bad, not the good.
This world is beautiful, never forget it! :)
I agree.
Stop eating the virus news. Just grab and stop. Go out, do sports. Running, bike. Do what you love. And believe the epidemic, pass unnoticed for you


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: TheCoinGrabber on May 23, 2020, 01:20:30 AM
They said it's going to be like the seasonal flu, it ain't going away. It has already spread everywhere and since it seems a large number of infected are asymptomatic, it would remain in the population.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: CAUTIONED on May 23, 2020, 03:27:46 AM
It won't. I'm sure we'll see occasional outbreaks for years to come, as common as a snowday.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 23, 2020, 04:42:37 AM
Viruses are part of nature. They exist to make it possible for higher orders of animals, and people, to live within nature. They protect from bacteria, and from nutritional deficiencies. The reason why people get sick from viruses is, a virus is trying to normalize their nutritionally deficient system. That's why people need to get a good diet to overcome Covid.

Viruses will always be here, because they are a good part of nature that the medical has been badmouthing to us for years.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: blackfishsoup on May 25, 2020, 04:06:06 AM
This is an artificial virus, and this whole quarantine situation too. Therefore, it doesn't depend on the virus itself, but on the people (or rather nonhumans) who do this.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 27, 2020, 05:14:21 PM
In other words, the problem isn't Covid. Rather, it is the fear, and the usage of that fear by those who are trying to conquer the world.


This Should Be A Major Wake Up Call For Every Single Person Living On The Planet (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/283555-2020-05-26-this-should-be-a-major-wake-up-call-for-every.htm)



Hopefully, this COVID-19 pandemic will serve as a wake up call for people all over the globe, because it has given us a very clear preview of what we can expect during the years ahead.  This pandemic has shown us that our economic and financial systems are not nearly as stable as most people thought, many of our politicians have been quite eager to embrace socialism and tyranny during this pandemic, and acute shortages of basic essentials started to happen very rapidly once fear of COVID-19 began to sweep across the nation.  If things degenerated this much during a relatively minor crisis like this COVID-19 pandemic, what in the world is our society going to look like once a major crisis hits us?

If you haven't figured it out by now, this coronavirus is definitely not an "end of the world" scenario.  Yes, more than 300,000 people around the globe have died so far, and the final death toll will be even higher, but this isn't like the Spanish Flu Pandemic of 1918 to 1920 that took the lives of somewhere between 50 million and 100 million victims worldwide.


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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Nathanz on May 27, 2020, 06:36:38 PM
I don't actually believe that virus doesn't want warmer place. Here in my country, we only have two seasons, summer and rainy seasons, and it is extremely heat in our country. And still, the amount of Covid19 positive still goes up.

I do believe that Covid19 will be here for at least 2 years before it completely have no effect at all on people. It will take years on making a vaccine, and I assume that not everyone will be able to get a vaccine once it's available for purchase. It already have a lot of bad impacts to different aspects of society and even on the aspects of a country. A lot of jobs has been compromised and millions of people lost a source of income. Let us just hope that Covid-19 will not infect a lot of people soon as time goes by.



Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on May 28, 2020, 12:35:19 AM
Covid will disappear almost 10 minutes from now. Of course I am exaggerating. But look at what's happening.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on June 01, 2020, 05:45:46 PM
This is an artificial virus, and this whole quarantine situation too. Therefore, it doesn't depend on the virus itself, but on the people (or rather nonhumans) who do this.


I would agree with the fact that it depends on humans how will they behave, and if they are gonna break the certain rules or not, and of course virus is made by humans.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on June 01, 2020, 05:47:15 PM
Covid will disappear almost 10 minutes from now. Of course I am exaggerating. But look at what's happening.

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idk where you founds this informations, but I surely know it isn't true you can't actually predict when will virus disappear.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on June 01, 2020, 05:50:25 PM
I don't actually believe that virus doesn't want warmer place. Here in my country, we only have two seasons, summer and rainy seasons, and it is extremely heat in our country. And still, the amount of Covid19 positive still goes up.

I do believe that Covid19 will be here for at least 2 years before it completely have no effect at all on people. It will take years on making a vaccine, and I assume that not everyone will be able to get a vaccine once it's available for purchase. It already have a lot of bad impacts to different aspects of society and even on the aspects of a country. A lot of jobs has been compromised and millions of people lost a source of income. Let us just hope that Covid-19 will not infect a lot of people soon as time goes by.



yes I agree we can only hope that it will disappear, but i just wanted to say because virus was "made" in winter so it adjusted to that weather and temperature I heard that it will kind of stop, not completely by warmer and hotter weather (that was what scientists said) and in my country  there is no infected people at all few days in a row so let's hope it will disappear soon.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: YourNeko on June 02, 2020, 11:39:09 AM
The chance of it "disappearing" are very low, you have to remember that around 400,000 people have already died from this and there are ~6 million cases, I think that the fallout from this will be longl asting, we will likely recover within the next few years / next decade, but until then we will 100% be able to see the impact that corona has had on us, both in terms of how we interact with each other and how we interact with our governments.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: xen1oph on June 02, 2020, 01:04:00 PM
You need to be to the point that various bad things will happen. I think that it’s not a secret to anyone that there are behind-the-scenes elites who benefit when people suffer, etc., they get money and power from this.

But this is not scary, because freedom is our choice. A truly free person will be free even in prison.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 03, 2020, 05:02:49 PM
^^^ Right. Freedom is a mind thing. Covid-19 has disappeared for me a long time ago. In fact, maybe it never appeared for me at all, for at least two reasons:
1. The way it is being presented is a big fat lie;
2. I have help to take it the way it comes... help from God.

I think I'm going to go to the fridge, and get an okra pickle.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: PavelMed on June 03, 2020, 06:01:43 PM
Covid 19 will not disappear. How the bird and swine flu virus did not disappear. The so-called collective immunity is developed, and the body learns to cope with it. The question is, when will the borders be fully opened and we will be able to live as we lived, without mandatory masks in public places.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 03, 2020, 10:45:36 PM
Covid 19 will not disappear. How the bird and swine flu virus did not disappear. The so-called collective immunity is developed, and the body learns to cope with it. The question is, when will the borders be fully opened and we will be able to live as we lived, without mandatory masks in public places.

Things will only get back to normal when we take government people to court and make them try to prove that Covid exists, and is doing bad to us.

Since the only way anybody can see a virus is in an electron microscope, and since all things viewed in an electron microscope are dead, how can they tell if the virus is good or bad? They never saw it do anything.

The whole virus thing is a lie.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: EmpowNetwork on June 04, 2020, 02:46:30 AM
The corona virus may never disappear and will exist like HIV, the leader of the World Health Organization (WHO) said.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 04, 2020, 04:04:23 PM
I have researched a little, for a microscope that can see live viruses doing something. I haven't been able to find any microscope strong enough for that. The electron microscope can see viruses, but it is destructive in the way that it kills any living tissue, including viruses.

I wish frank1 - since he is a professional in these areas - would show us the link to the microscope that can view viruses in action.

If there isn't any microscope that can view live viruses in action, then it is only circumstantial evidence, and researcher interpretation of the evidence, that says that viruses are bad things. Maybe there are alternatives.

Does anybody out there know anything about the microscope I am questioning for?

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Mikeowen on June 05, 2020, 06:41:17 AM
No one knows when it will end, because it is impossible to isolate everyone unless an effective vaccine is developed.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 05, 2020, 06:53:31 AM
^^^ It will end as soon as the people recognize that it exists only as a bad cold. Even though it is worse than a bad cold, it doesn't exist in ways to make a pandemic out of.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Alaric05 on June 05, 2020, 10:03:12 AM
No one knows when it will end, because it is impossible to isolate everyone unless an effective vaccine is developed.

In my opinion we have to learn to live with corona until we find any vaccine for it, and I'm guessing our immunity system will only beat this virus so we have to build it by nurturing it with good and healthy food and lifestyle.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Naida_BR on June 05, 2020, 03:51:44 PM
This is an artificial virus, and this whole quarantine situation too. Therefore, it doesn't depend on the virus itself, but on the people (or rather nonhumans) who do this.

Do you have any evidence for that? You are just making thoughts out of your head.
There is no benefit for the whole world to be dropped into a recession again and have a financial crisis as well. No government is going to be benefited from that.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: jrrsparkles on June 06, 2020, 02:47:33 PM
2025, a time traveler told me this. ;D

Actually still there is no cure for it, even if we find a cure today it will take atleast two years to manufacture and give it to all the people in this world.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 06, 2020, 04:51:11 PM
The cure for Covid is simply this. To cleanse the body of toxins and poisons (especially vaccines), and to cleanse the mind from evil thoughts and plans.

One thing more: To accept God as he is written about in the New Testament of the Bible.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lepbagong on June 07, 2020, 01:19:41 AM
2025, a time traveler told me this. ;D

Actually still there is no cure for it, even if we find a cure today it will take atleast two years to manufacture and give it to all the people in this world.

no one can be sure of the exact end of a pandemic, it could be as you said 2025 or maybe it could be faster. all depends on the discovery of drugs and vaccines. which can later be mass produced immediately for countermeasures.
but in my country there has been a discovery by a doctor that with blood plasma from covid 19 patients who have recovered, the results are quite satisfactory for critical sufferers. but it still needs time and support from the government so that there are regulations that can be accepted. and this method according to the doctor has been around for a long time and has been widely used in many other countries.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: techbill on June 07, 2020, 01:39:24 AM
NYC for the first time since March 9 had no Corona deaths for a whole day a couple of days ago.

I don't know what exactly causes things like the flu to go away when the weather gets warmer, but it's happening.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: divina marine on June 10, 2020, 11:40:18 AM
"Currently, no one can answer this question,
 as in many countries cases are increasing
 rapidly and till now their is no vaccine to
end or cure COVID-19. "


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Leo on June 10, 2020, 03:19:57 PM
The epidemic is only in people's minds. Go about your business, do something good, or just enjoy life, you only have one!
Epidemics and other situations have already been and will be in the future, but if you focus on this, then your life will become simply unbearable.
All the best in this world does not disappear during the epidemic, you just mistakenly began to focus on the bad, not the good.
This world is beautiful, never forget it! :)
You are indirectly saying that the virus is not real, the epidemic is not only on people's minds its due to what they have seen from people who are being infected by the virus, lots of people are asymptomatic patients transmitting the disease, by so doing its gonna take a long time for the virus to disappear


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 10, 2020, 04:00:16 PM
When will covid-19 disappear?


Close to 100% of people don't see Covid-19. Why not? It's too small to see except with an electron microscope, or with a Microsphere Nanoscope. And only certain technicians and doctors use these to see Covid-19.

This means that we must place all our trust in these doctors and technicians. Do you trust them? How much? They, themselves, show us that they don't know what is going on. If they did, they would have had this thing and others cured long ago.

Further. The Microsphere Nanoscope was built in 2011. It's the only microscope that is powerful enough to see "living" viruses in living tissue and watch what the viruses are doing, and how the living tissues respond. But there isn't any info, and there aren't any pictures, of Covid-19 coming out of anywhere that uses the Microsphere Nanoscope.

Why is this? Have the researches found that viruses are something completely different than what we have been taught? Are they keeping this a secret because the truth would simply destroy the whole medical system, and change the balance of money-making by the medical?

If anybody has info and pictures, videos, and explanations about Microsphere Nanoscope use with Covid and other viruses, please post such... along with links, if possible.


I have been to seminars that show the complexity of how living systems work. When considering this complexity, along with the bacteriophages (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacteriophage) - essentially bacteria fighting viruses - do we really know that viruses are the bad guys? What if viruses are part of cellular healing, and it is simply changes to the cells that we do with medicine and vaccines that stop viruses, because they deem their healing work done because the cells have changed somewhat.

Personally, I think we are looking at the whole idea incorrectly, and the medical is doing this intentionally for monetary reasons.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Subbir on June 13, 2020, 02:47:56 PM
It takes an extended time to urge through the bad times and it's very difficult to mention when this virus will end The prevalence of the virus has been increasing day by day the planet seems to be coming to a standstill. most are living helplessly. Everything is closed the amount of unemployed is increasing and lots of aren't ready to leave the epidemic seems to possess stopped everything nobody knows when Covid-19 will disappear most are expecting the top.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 13, 2020, 04:28:18 PM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on June 15, 2020, 06:37:52 PM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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COVID-19 IS NOT A LIE! too many people died from it and scientists now still are trying to find the cure. Please be mature and stop telling it is a lie because it does not makes sense.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 15, 2020, 08:06:49 PM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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COVID-19 IS NOT A LIE! too many people died from it and scientists now still are trying to find the cure. Please be mature and stop telling it is a lie because it does not makes sense.

Ah, let's see your proof, and not hearsay. Or is it you don't want to see the proof. Go to https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos and watch the videoed interview with loads of professionals who are showing anybody who wants to look, that the whole thing was a hoax, probably from day one.

What? You don't have enough time? You're just the kind of person who goes to a movie and thinks it is for real, and not 100% put on and played by actors.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lepbagong on June 15, 2020, 09:11:10 PM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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COVID-19 IS NOT A LIE! too many people died from it and scientists now still are trying to find the cure. Please be mature and stop telling it is a lie because it does not makes sense.

There are still many people who think like that even though many countries have been affected and many have died because of the covid. the mistake at first underestimated that covid could be with because it was just like the common cold, after which not many people were prepared for this incident.
even the most recent discovery is very frightening that covid has mutated even bigger and its transmission is 10x faster than it has ever happened. there is no way other than to be immediately found drugs and vaccines so that covid ends, not just breaking the link from the sick to the healthy.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 15, 2020, 10:05:22 PM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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COVID-19 IS NOT A LIE! too many people died from it and scientists now still are trying to find the cure. Please be mature and stop telling it is a lie because it does not makes sense.

There are still many people who think like that even though many countries have been affected and many have died because of the covid. the mistake at first underestimated that covid could be with because it was just like the common cold, after which not many people were prepared for this incident.
even the most recent discovery is very frightening that covid has mutated even bigger and its transmission is 10x faster than it has ever happened. there is no way other than to be immediately found drugs and vaccines so that covid ends, not just breaking the link from the sick to the healthy.

In the United States, and probably most of the rest of the world, NOBODY knows even near right, what the Covid death statistics are. Why not? Because like the US, the rest of the world has been told to use flawed info to determine Covid deaths.

What I mean is, both Deborah Birx (Trump's team) and the CDC have instructed doctors that if the cause of death is unknown, or if it might be similar to Covid, that they are supposed to call it Covid, no matter what it is, even if it is unknown.

In other words:

There are 4 buddies. Three of them are tested over and over Covid negative. The fourth is Covid positive. They go to the bar together, and they all get plastered. The driver is the Covid positive guy. On the way home, he runs them off the road, hits a tree, and kills them all. What was the cause of death?

The coroner might list various things as cause of death. The CDC will work as hard as they can to get the cause in all of them to be Covid, because the driver was Covid positive. Even if the driver was one of the Covid negative guys, the CDC will still try to get them listed as Covid. They might even change the coroner's report if they can get away with it.

This is happening all over the country. Nobody knows which doctors are being honest in their cause of death evaluation. Nobody knows which doctors are simply doing what the CC says, even if it seems a little shady.

We have found out that the vast majority of Covid-called deaths in the USA, were deaths because of accidental malpractice of doctors not knowing what to do, or not knowing who to obey. Roughly 88% of all the people in the USA who died of Covid, really had some other life threatening problem - heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pneumonia, etc.  If they caught the simple common cold, they would have died. The Covid numbers are being greatly exaggerated.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on June 17, 2020, 06:26:33 AM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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COVID-19 IS NOT A LIE! too many people died from it and scientists now still are trying to find the cure. Please be mature and stop telling it is a lie because it does not makes sense.

There are still many people who think like that even though many countries have been affected and many have died because of the covid. the mistake at first underestimated that covid could be with because it was just like the common cold, after which not many people were prepared for this incident.
even the most recent discovery is very frightening that covid has mutated even bigger and its transmission is 10x faster than it has ever happened. there is no way other than to be immediately found drugs and vaccines so that covid ends, not just breaking the link from the sick to the healthy.

In the United States, and probably most of the rest of the world, NOBODY knows even near right, what the Covid death statistics are. Why not? Because like the US, the rest of the world has been told to use flawed info to determine Covid deaths.

What I mean is, both Deborah Birx (Trump's team) and the CDC have instructed doctors that if the cause of death is unknown, or if it might be similar to Covid, that they are supposed to call it Covid, no matter what it is, even if it is unknown.

In other words:

There are 4 buddies. Three of them are tested over and over Covid negative. The fourth is Covid positive. They go to the bar together, and they all get plastered. The driver is the Covid positive guy. On the way home, he runs them off the road, hits a tree, and kills them all. What was the cause of death?

The coroner might list various things as cause of death. The CDC will work as hard as they can to get the cause in all of them to be Covid, because the driver was Covid positive. Even if the driver was one of the Covid negative guys, the CDC will still try to get them listed as Covid. They might even change the coroner's report if they can get away with it.

This is happening all over the country. Nobody knows which doctors are being honest in their cause of death evaluation. Nobody knows which doctors are simply doing what the CC says, even if it seems a little shady.

We have found out that the vast majority of Covid-called deaths in the USA, were deaths because of accidental malpractice of doctors not knowing what to do, or not knowing who to obey. Roughly 88% of all the people in the USA who died of Covid, really had some other life threatening problem - heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pneumonia, etc.  If they caught the simple common cold, they would have died. The Covid numbers are being greatly exaggerated.

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You have a good evidences that people who dies during this pandemic are exaggeration just to scare people out that not all people who dies is because of the corona virus. Other people only dies because of common diseases and accidents, not the corona virus. To be honest, corona virus is curable because there are a lot of people have already been recovered from the virus, so nothing to be scared off and as long you have a healthy immune system you will be safe.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: @SumiaShayna57 on June 17, 2020, 01:20:08 PM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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COVID-19 IS NOT A LIE! too many people died from it and scientists now still are trying to find the cure. Please be mature and stop telling it is a lie because it does not makes sense.

There are still many people who think like that even though many countries have been affected and many have died because of the covid. the mistake at first underestimated that covid could be with because it was just like the common cold, after which not many people were prepared for this incident.
even the most recent discovery is very frightening that covid has mutated even bigger and its transmission is 10x faster than it has ever happened. there is no way other than to be immediately found drugs and vaccines so that covid ends, not just breaking the link from the sick to the healthy.

In the United States, and probably most of the rest of the world, NOBODY knows even near right, what the Covid death statistics are. Why not? Because like the US, the rest of the world has been told to use flawed info to determine Covid deaths.

What I mean is, both Deborah Birx (Trump's team) and the CDC have instructed doctors that if the cause of death is unknown, or if it might be similar to Covid, that they are supposed to call it Covid, no matter what it is, even if it is unknown.

In other words:

There are 4 buddies. Three of them are tested over and over Covid negative. The fourth is Covid positive. They go to the bar together, and they all get plastered. The driver is the Covid positive guy. On the way home, he runs them off the road, hits a tree, and kills them all. What was the cause of death?

The coroner might list various things as cause of death. The CDC will work as hard as they can to get the cause in all of them to be Covid, because the driver was Covid positive. Even if the driver was one of the Covid negative guys, the CDC will still try to get them listed as Covid. They might even change the coroner's report if they can get away with it.

This is happening all over the country. Nobody knows which doctors are being honest in their cause of death evaluation. Nobody knows which doctors are simply doing what the CC says, even if it seems a little shady.

We have found out that the vast majority of Covid-called deaths in the USA, were deaths because of accidental malpractice of doctors not knowing what to do, or not knowing who to obey. Roughly 88% of all the people in the USA who died of Covid, really had some other life threatening problem - heart disease, cancer, diabetes, pneumonia, etc.  If they caught the simple common cold, they would have died. The Covid numbers are being greatly exaggerated.

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You have a good evidences that people who dies during this pandemic are exaggeration just to scare people out that not all people who dies is because of the corona virus. Other people only dies because of common diseases and accidents, not the corona virus. To be honest, corona virus is curable because there are a lot of people have already been recovered from the virus, so nothing to be scared off and as long you have a healthy immune system you will be safe.
While we can speculate on what will happen and wait to see the rest, certain aspects of the current situation will surely linger post-COVID-19. We probably won’t go down the same route as Demolition Man when it comes to bodily fluids and physical contact, at least not any time soon, but changes to our ingrained habits are bound to happen.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 17, 2020, 08:28:29 PM

You have a good evidences that people who dies during this pandemic are exaggeration just to scare people out that not all people who dies is because of the corona virus. Other people only dies because of common diseases and accidents, not the corona virus. To be honest, corona virus is curable because there are a lot of people have already been recovered from the virus, so nothing to be scared off and as long you have a healthy immune system you will be safe.
While we can speculate on what will happen and wait to see the rest, certain aspects of the current situation will surely linger post-COVID-19. We probably won’t go down the same route as Demolition Man when it comes to bodily fluids and physical contact, at least not any time soon, but changes to our ingrained habits are bound to happen.

While we can speculate, why waste the time? Take government and the medical to court to prove that Covid is real, and that Covid actually cause any deaths. I mean, the flu season is on us. It happens this way every time there is a reduction in sun spots. Check out the statistics. An don't really believe the statistics until it is PROVEN to you that they haven't been manipulated or simply lied about.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: GeorgeJohn on June 20, 2020, 11:14:19 PM
Disappearance of covid 19 is possible because is not all countries is affected by corona virus and besides the potentiality of the pandemic is getting weaker in so many countries.
Since some countries that was affected mostly by corona virus are technically free from the virus that shows that the bond of corona virus has been broken, and one major evidence to prove is that premier legumes are allowed to per take in soccer games or resumed which with sports many people will be affected even viewing centre's and stadium were the game take place.
Automatically covid19 will be court from all continent before December 2020.
Because the treatment is moving rapidly and many people are responding to treatment.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: coinoutraged on June 20, 2020, 11:50:40 PM
It probably won't disappear completely but the spread will go down. Like with the flu. Hopefully it doesn't mutate as often, and with the herd immunity it will pretty much contained until there's vaccine.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: KiloFoxtrot on June 21, 2020, 11:01:27 AM
The pandemic fear has been confirmed already and it won't go away anytime soon. A cure though or a vaccine is the next best thing instead, in order for everyone to move forward past this pandemic nightmare.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Guryon_master on June 23, 2020, 11:02:05 PM
Unless a man know how to obey the simple strict rule nothing happened and I'm afraid that the vaccine comes too late. The only thing we can see is the supremacy of this virus and foolishness of every hardheaded who could infect our front liners specifically the nurses and doctors.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 23, 2020, 11:45:34 PM
A really, really interesting Covid statistic is this. At the same time in April when the Covid death stats were rising drastically, the SIDS (Sudden Infand Death Syndrome) was going dramatically down. Less deaths among infants, but more among the elderly.

One would think that infant deaths would be going up with Covid, at least a little. Why would they go dramatically down when such a thing hasn't happened in any recent years? Fewer infant deaths during the Covid crisis than any other time. Even the CDC is questioning this.

Find the answer here - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxB6gLeC3xc.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on June 26, 2020, 10:43:56 AM
"Currently, no one can answer this question,
 as in many countries cases are increasing
 rapidly and till now their is no vaccine to
end or cure COVID-19. "



I think the vaccine is the key to end of the pandemic, but virus is mutating and doesn't have just one type of itself.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lucija2005 on June 26, 2020, 10:45:14 AM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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I woke up today and it is still here, you can't know when it will disappear


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: virasog on June 26, 2020, 04:30:41 PM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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I woke up today and it is still here, you can't know when it will disappear

According to the Astrologists, the solar eclipse on 21 June will be the turning point and the covid-19 will slowly begin to disappear after that time. This  solar eclipse already happened on last Sunday and I am hopeful that the intensity of this virus will begin to slow down and eventually this virus will disappear from the earth.

Although I have no solid to explain and backup my point of view but I do hope that whatever the astrologists are saying about his, should come true and we all become safe.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 26, 2020, 04:51:49 PM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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I woke up today and it is still here, you can't know when it will disappear

What is the IT you are talking about?

Covid-19 virus will always be here, along with billions of other viruses, millions of which are right in your own body.

Covid-19 the pandemic will be here as long as people listen to the lies of the medical leaders.

All you need to do to make Covid-19 go away is, simply tell yourself that it doesn't exist, and get on with life.

The things that make the pandemic exist are:
1. Lies propagated by the medical, the media and government;
2. Belief in those lies;
3. Fear of what is said in the lies.

That's it. If you want to start seeing that this is truth, watch and think about what the other professionals are saying in these videos - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: SacriFries11 on June 28, 2020, 07:25:03 AM
According to the Astrologists, the solar eclipse on 21 June will be the turning point and the covid-19 will slowly begin to disappear after that time. This  solar eclipse already happened on last Sunday and I am hopeful that the intensity of this virus will begin to slow down and eventually this virus will disappear from the earth.

Although I have no solid to explain and backup my point of view but I do hope that whatever the astrologists are saying about his, should come true and we all become safe.
I agree with you. If its the turning point of the today's crisis I glad to here it but the cases continue to grow after the event. I hope its slightly delay and hopefully after the next couple of days the cases will be less. We still in the first wave of this pandemic and not even flatten yet. I think countries will also face the second wave of this pandemic, so this will definitely takes a long before this will disappear. The vaccine is all we needed right now to get back in normal state.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 28, 2020, 04:34:45 PM
Covid-19 would disappear literally today, if the people woke up and realized that the Covid-19 pandemic is a lie. It's not that the virus doesn't exist. It's that the deaths attributed to it are a lie.

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I woke up today and it is still here, you can't know when it will disappear

No one knows exactly when it'll end but hopefully very soon we are getting to get obviate this difficult epidemic Many countries have already been ready to resist the virus But I do not think this COVID-19 may be a lie or how to harm the entire world. We will need to wait to ascertain the subsequent step.

Actually, Covid has gone away for a lot of people. They have realized that Covid is almost 100% lies, and they have gone back to work, and stepped out of the lockdowns. Certainly BLM and Antifa have. They even got out there and launched riots around the country so that people forgot about Covid for a couple of weeks.

Why is it that some people have such a hard time understanding that BLM riots essentially prove that Covid isn't the threat? The threat is believing Covid is a threat. It makes people fearful, and that fear is the thing that gives BLM the power to take over.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on June 28, 2020, 09:18:34 PM
Honestly, I am beginning to conclude that this pandemic has come to stay with us like malaria and typhoid fever or even like the regular pneumonia and be treated as such. I can't wait for such a time to come, but I know it will definitely come. Did we not experience the Spanish Flu and was it not later solved too?


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 28, 2020, 10:45:42 PM
Honestly, I am beginning to conclude that this pandemic has come to stay with us like malaria and typhoid fever or even like the regular pneumonia and be treated as such. I can't wait for such a time to come, but I know it will definitely come. Did we not experience the Spanish Flu and was it not later solved too?

Since the pandemic has been created by lies, all you need to do is resist the lies, and look at the truth. Then the pandemic will be gone for you.

When others see that you have resisted fearing the lies, they will ask you why? You can show them https://www.youtube.com/c/HighWirewithDelBigtree/videos and https://www.youtube.com/user/TonyRobbinsLive/videos, the places where you found out that the pandemic is a fear thing without anything substantial behind it.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: philipma1957 on June 29, 2020, 02:10:58 AM
Honestly, I am beginning to conclude that this pandemic has come to stay with us like malaria and typhoid fever or even like the regular pneumonia and be treated as such. I can't wait for such a time to come, but I know it will definitely come. Did we not experience the Spanish Flu and was it not later solved too?

If we are to be like the Spanish Flu it will become less of a threat next April,

Assuming that New Jersey and New York numbers are close to real.

25% had it already

based on most virus about 30 to 35 %. do not catch it.

Thus. 25 + 30 = 55% to 60% are done with Covid-19  in those 2 states.

If the remains 40 to 45 % left catch it the death rate will be lower because the sick and old and demented in nursing homes took a huge hit.

If stats are real I expect NJ to end up with 26,000 to 30,000 dead of 9,000,000. with a basic trial to next to zero in March-May 2021

so 26,000/9,000,000. x 8,000,000,000 = 23,111,111. world wide dead to maybe 26,666,666 dead max.  based on NJ numbers.

to under stand this consider WW2 about 85,000,000 dead when world pop was about 2.3 billion

  All rough numbers  and just a guess.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: Mauser on June 29, 2020, 06:19:32 AM
Honestly, I am beginning to conclude that this pandemic has come to stay with us like malaria and typhoid fever or even like the regular pneumonia and be treated as such. I can't wait for such a time to come, but I know it will definitely come. Did we not experience the Spanish Flu and was it not later solved too?

Since the pandemic has been created by lies, all you need to do is resist the lies, and look at the truth. Then the pandemic will be gone for you.

When others see that you have resisted fearing the lies, they will ask you why? You can show them https://www.youtube.com/c/HighWirewithDelBigtree/videos and https://www.youtube.com/user/TonyRobbinsLive/videos, the places where you found out that the pandemic is a fear thing without anything substantial behind it.

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Wow dude, that's so ignorant. So corona is just fake news? Tell that to all the families that lost people to the pandemic. Let me guess you don't wear a mask at all are just completely ignorant with your surroundings? Too many fake news out there


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: dkbit98 on June 29, 2020, 09:53:48 AM
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Sad you think like this.

If you believe this what you say then you are a very unhappy man  :P



Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on June 29, 2020, 10:48:36 AM


According to the Astrologists, the solar eclipse on 21 June will be the turning point and the covid-19 will slowly begin to disappear after that time. This  solar eclipse already happened on last Sunday and I am hopeful that the intensity of this virus will begin to slow down and eventually this virus will disappear from the earth.

Although I have no solid to explain and backup my point of view but I do hope that whatever the astrologists are saying about his, should come true and we all become safe.

Today there are so many forecasters that prophecies are heard from every teapot. But in fact, the virus is as it is. If you listen to the media, then of course the virus gradually surrenders. But if we talk about the vaccine, then virologists still can’t pick up a key to it, therefore, I think it's too early to suggest an early end to the pandemic.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 29, 2020, 04:01:32 PM
Honestly, I am beginning to conclude that this pandemic has come to stay with us like malaria and typhoid fever or even like the regular pneumonia and be treated as such. I can't wait for such a time to come, but I know it will definitely come. Did we not experience the Spanish Flu and was it not later solved too?

Since the pandemic has been created by lies, all you need to do is resist the lies, and look at the truth. Then the pandemic will be gone for you.

When others see that you have resisted fearing the lies, they will ask you why? You can show them https://www.youtube.com/c/HighWirewithDelBigtree/videos and https://www.youtube.com/user/TonyRobbinsLive/videos, the places where you found out that the pandemic is a fear thing without anything substantial behind it.

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Wow dude, that's so ignorant. So corona is just fake news? Tell that to all the families that lost people to the pandemic. Let me guess you don't wear a mask at all are just completely ignorant with your surroundings? Too many fake news out there

How do you know that people lost family to Coronavirus? Because somebody told you? Because it's in the news? Because you want to believe it?

Your problem is that you seem to be able to think only a little tiny bit. How much? Just enough to understand the words of the Covid lies so that you believe them.

If you listen to the videos in the links in my post you quoted, you will see why the Covid statistics are lies, and why wearing a mask is more dangerous for you, than not wearing one is dangerous for other people.

There is a difference between fake news and news that you can calculate. Fake news is just blab. Doing the calculations shows what is fake and not fake. Listen to the videos, and do the calculations. Then you will see that Covid is basically fake lies.

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Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on June 29, 2020, 06:40:54 PM

If you listen to the videos in the links in my post you quoted, you will see why the Covid statistics are lies, and why wearing a mask is more dangerous for you, than not wearing one is dangerous for other people.

There is a difference between fake news and news that you can calculate. Fake news is just blab. Doing the calculations shows what is fake and not fake. Listen to the videos, and do the calculations. Then you will see that Covid is basically fake lies.

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It looks like you are the most knowledgeable about the virus. Then explain to us all, why all this circus? Thousands of graves in Asia, thousands of deaths in America, and in Europe. The whole world is shocked by terrible news. Tell me, why is this all? Economy? The leaders of all countries suddenly secretly made friends?
I must say right away that I am not an alarmist, and I do not listen to millions of YouTube channels that post their assumptions.


Title: Re: When will covid-19 disappear?
Post by: BADecker on June 29, 2020, 10:12:53 PM

If you listen to the videos in the links in my post you quoted, you will see why the Covid statistics are lies, and why wearing a mask is more dangerous for you, than not wearing one is dangerous for other people.

There is a difference between fake news and news that you can calculate. Fake news is just blab. Doing the calculations shows what is fake and not fake. Listen to the videos, and do the calculations. Then you will see that Covid is basically fake lies.

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It looks like you are the most knowledgeable about the virus. Then explain to us all, why all this circus? Thousands of graves in Asia, thousands of deaths in America, and in Europe. The whole world is shocked by terrible news. Tell me, why is this all? Economy? The leaders of all countries suddenly secretly made friends?
I must say right away that I am not an alarmist, and I do not listen to millions of YouTube channels that post their assumptions.

Why do you think I am knowledgeable about some virus?

When you break the statistics down, you find several things, and don't quote me without doing your research, but:
1. Total deaths are barely above average for any flu season;
2. The 2017/2018 flu season had more deaths than the 2020 flu season;
3. Many people were killed in hospitals by the use of ventilators; People need straight oxygen, not ventilated oxygen;
4. Many people were and are going to the hospital and testing Covid negative... but dying Covid positive a few weeks later;
5. The American CDC along with Dr. Deborah Birx (Trump's team) have told medical people to call deaths Covid deaths as often as they can, even if nobody knows the cause, or even if they know that the cause isn't Covid, but that it resembles Covid somewhat;
6. Only about 15% of deaths were in people under the age of 65;
7. Most of the deaths were in people who really died from cancer, heart disease, diabetes, pneumonia, etc., and all that Covid did was weaken them a little more so that they died from these other things. They could have died from the common cold, and probably many of them did;
8. The tests are not conclusive. Many people have tested positive, then negative, then positive, then negative, etc., day by day as the tests are administered;
9. The tests are not conclusive except where a specialist examines the results. Often a test can look positive but really be negative;
10. Sudden Infant Death Syndrome reduced dramatically during the April Covid spike, suggesting that keeping infants from getting vaccines (they were in lockdown) saves lives. This is probably true for everybody;
11. There is a lot more. Look at the videos that I presented.

As for why they might be screwing us like this:
1. To make Trump lose the election;
2. To reduce the population by getting folks to wear masks; Masks are dangerous; It seems like Bill Gates has said that he wants population reduction; Also, check out the Georgia Guide Stones for population reduction;
3. The shutdowns exist so that a new form of money can be introduced;

Listen to the Youtube channels that post the facts... https://www.youtube.com/c/HighWirewithDelBigtree/videos and https://www.youtube.com/user/TonyRobbinsLive/videos.

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