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I was thinking of how much the overclocked version of the sapphire 5700 xt nitro special edition cards with Core Clock 1840 MHz & Boost Clock 2035 MHz would get on the ethash algorithm the other day.
It depends on the algorithm, ethash benefits from higher memory clock (and especially memory timing) but for equihash you need some core too.
But with the announcement yesterday of the next iteration of navi will have double the performance. But for what? Just for gaming or mining as well?
https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-big-navi-21-gpu-505-mm-die

I really like the 5700s but 90% of my gpus are 3 years old.  It would be nice if performance was twice as fast as the 5700s, but I would want to see how they preform on other algos.  Eth is great but for a large investment I would need more then one algo.

It is funny you say 5700s as you own one correct? After seeing others doing the xt bios modification.
I just noticed even though you are able to bios mod the 5700 cards to xt clocks it does not affect the hashrates at all. :-\

I have 18 rx 5700s and 5700s XTs and haven't tried bios modding any of them.  I think you can get a little more hash rate but I don't want the possibility of unstable rigs.  i'm getting 51-52 MH/s around 110 -120 watts and they can get 1.1h/s on G31.

maybe not leap forward in mining

rdna2 focus on hardware raytracing. 

Might make the current cards cheaper if they are not a big leap for mining.

I was checking the hashrates on the rx 5700 (non-bios modded to xt) and they can get 52 mh/s. But since the 5700 xt draws more power they should get higher. Can you confirm how much of a difference in hash rates you get with the 5700 cards (since I am assuming they are all the same brand and the same memory manufactuer) versus the 5700 xt?
Which brand do you have of the 5700xt card? As I mentioned in the first post the sapphire 5700xt special editions have power boosted clocks.

Here are the hash rates and power usage.  I can probably squeeze a little more hash rate out but these are very stable and run weeks on end with no reboots.

https://i.ibb.co/k09R9vG/RX-5700.png

^^
So the 5700 (non-bios modded to XT) does the same hashrates as the 5700XT?
I see XL besides the regular 5700 thats why I ask.
Can you say which models they are? Powercolor has two versions like red devils and AMD doesnt say which brand they are.
Just curious about the memory types they have either micron or samsung, etc.

yes current cards is cheaper i read about rdna2 amd focus on raytracing and power consume.

card maybe faster around 20% with lower power consume amd focus this card in console gamer.


leap forward for mining maybe nvidia rtx 30xx series last news 3060 is faster than 2080 and can beat 2080ti

3060 have more RTX-OPS but we need to wait and see.

It does seem the new ravencoin fork does mine better on amd cards as well.
I was tuning into a stream during the exact time they switched over to the new algorithm and radeon vii were getting 32MH/s-40MH/s while 5700xt were doing 17MH/s being posted on the stream.
But those numbers were just when the fork was done so they will most certainly drop.
Just remember ravncoin will get a different hashrate then ethash. It is the progpow algorithm which will increase the power needed from each card. :-\

There is a new tool someone created to tweak the power settings on Polaris. Navi 10 and 14 cards. It works in linux! :)
https://github.com/patrickschur/atitool

https://www.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/gv8f4x/atitool_the_swiss_army_knife_of_amd_gpu_tools/

Still havent received any 5700xt cards to test this on but if you do then post your results below on how much of a decrease in power draw and increase in hashrate you received using this.
Remember to also include make and model of your cards.

My RX 5700 XTs are getting 24.8 on RVN with team red miner, that is 2080 territory very impressive.

How can you achieve this hashrate?
I tested here and max I get is 20.4 with team red miner, but with a very high power, with the same card (5700xt Gigabyte OC Gaming) I do 54.5mhs on ETH 120watts on the wall

With that hashrate on rvn why mining eth? rvn with that hasrate is much more profitable.

I can tell you the difference won't be that much, the only thing I'm expecting is better power efficiency from the RDNA 2 Next GPU class, AMD did a worse job on Radeon VII when I put it head to head with my Vega 64 GPU, I expected a marginal better hashrate but was disappointed

I'm running SIMPLE OS with 1400 core, 885 mem and 812mv.  They use around 131 watts

https://ibb.co/Dky6vJ9

Thanks, I tried here but only 22.7 Mhs here with same settings, but I mining in Windows 10
I did not modified the bios, only used More Power Tools to decrease the mv

For me it's more profitable to mine ETH, even more because it uses less power, but I'll try to tweak more, to achieve at least 24mhs

Big Navi announced to drop tomorrow according to a tweet from one of the AMD devs it seems.
https://wccftech.com/amd-big-navi-rdna-2-gpu-powered-radeon-rx-6000-series-unveil-tomorrow

They are wanting to get a leg up on Nvidia with their release of the 3000rtx series which was announced to be available by the 17th of this month.
But retailers are already showing AIB versions available to purchase on their websites in Germany and China.

That article was two days ago.. that news was out yesterday.

According to youtube it was less than a day ago which they had leaked information about the 6900 series performance for AMD where they will be releasing it October 28th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1JUNBAXusA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw43n0Hv8rY
But release dates always change and I would assume they will bump it closer if the RTX launch from Nvidia on the 17th of this month is going to blow their new offering out of the water.
They will start to get scared the closer this launch date is from Nvidia. :-[

Excellent video released today regarding the different tiers of AIB involved with graphic card processing.
Also a leaked pic from a chinese tester of Navi 21 with a potential 16gb of gddr6 ram onboard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR70xbcwB6U

https://i.ibb.co/McqHdsp/samsung.jpg (https://ibb.co/Lx4yK86)

Now I am beginning to have my doubts this release by AMD sometime in October will contend with rtx3090 from Nvidia being released later in the month.

cons: gddr6

3090/3080 is gddr6x -double bandwidth

if amd uses hbm2e it will contend with 3080/3090, which seems to be not the case.

there is also word out there that amd will use a fast "cache" to supplement that gddr6-will it perform close to gddr6x? we'll see in the very near future.

Just checked the tech spec sheet on navi 21 the next amd iteration of their rx6000 lineup and it states it will have 12gb of ram onboard.
Yet this leak has 16gb labelled on the card itself. So this might be the testing for the next navi they could be releasing after 3090rtx is dropped after September 24th potential release date?
Or could be just like what nvidia is doing with the 3000 line releasing 3080 with 10gb and 3090 24gb.

yup. maybe the "12gb is gddr6" and the "16gb is gddr6 with cache".......no hbm2e yet.

high chance amd cards will under perform nvidia, and will try to compete with pricing.

^^
I am imagining the same scenario the way this is going to play out for this generation of cards being released by each manufacturer of their camps.
With Radeon VII(since discounted) having the HBM memory they will need to pony up the next evolution of this chipset to even compare to the ampere at this point.

18 each of rx 5700 and 5700 XT?

I'm planning on getting 18 pcs of 5700 of non-XT too, based on brand what is the best for you? is it true Powercolor is the 2nd best next to Sapphire.

Since that post i have about 30 now and bios modded some.  The blower cards are the best card they run cool and have very cool memory temps and consume less power but I don' think they make then anymore.  I buy open box what ever they have and I can't tell a difference between brands. 

should be interesting, second gen tsmc 7nm vs samsung 8nm.. seems nvidia went with the more power to make up for the lower efficiency design

MSI gaming is having a livestream of the 3080 specs and it has been running for about an hour now so should be over soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI1aUmsKiZk
The AIB cards are being advertised by almost all gaming youtuber from here to timbuktu over the past 12 hours. :D

I'll just wait til the AMD cards start rolling out(sooner than later now!) since they have showed some leaks of what the cards will look like so to compete with these rtx3000 series cards from Nvidia. :)

yeah, amd will go for pricing. There is no question about that and I do not expect to be close to what we see rtx 3080 produce, at maximum, in my opinion, 2080 ti performance.

2080ti is around 3070 performance....and nvidia will finish the fight with 3070ti so there is nowhere to go for amd.

and people like this..


they're going crazy specially now that the 3080's are going online..one..by one...by one... LOL  ;D

Release of the specs for big navi will be out tomorrow so now the wait will finally be over to see if it will beat 3080&3090rtx cards in mining performance. ;)
https://www.pocket-lint.com/laptops/news/154417-how-to-watch-amds-radeon-rx-6000-launch-event

The AMD 6000 series cards look to be beast cards everybody was expecting in the navi series all along. :-[
Here is the release video from amd a couple of days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpgu-cTjyM

This is the supercut version of the announcement so if you don't have 25 minutes to spend watching the above video and just want the facts and not the glamour. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKuJNFMeoCo

People are speculating what the infinite cache will do for mining.
We won't know until the devs of the miner software can take a long at it and work their magic to pump up those hashrates above what the 3080/3090 rtx cards can do with ethash above 100 mh/s.

Very funny video of nvidia user on a foreign version of The Maury Povich show :-X
Let's hope this doesn't happen to AMD users on the day of launch for the 6000 series cards.
"You sold your 2080ti thinking to get better performance than a 3080?" :D
https://i.ibb.co/kMK8my3/out.jpg (https://ibb.co/3k1NRsf)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1MaRWmqhc

Yet AMD has smart access memory, when tested have an advantage over nvidia video cards according to the testing that has been done when it comes to mining (remember we are talking about mining and not the gaming aspects of these cards):
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-amd-radeon-rx-6800-and-6800-xt-review

There is such limited supply of the 3090 cards and having over $30,000 worth on skids of these cards being stolen of msi stock, don't expect more anytime in the near future being available at your local retailers:
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-rtx-3090-stock-stolen-msi

The launch of the 6900xt is today and a retailers in switzerland is stating they will have 35 of these cards on hand to sell publicaly.
So these will be the unicorns of the gpu hunt with the latest release of their top-tier cards by both nvidia and amd?

This guy who waited in the cold overnight was offered a 3090 in a trade for their 6900xt.
I was sort of surprised for a $500 more in the price difference they didn't take the offer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMHPXrg288

Well I can buy anytime a 3090 for 1750 usd, the way prices are, 1750 usd for it is a bargain, scalpers must be selling for 2300 usd or more, is not a bad price but for what it offers, no way, I'm waiting for a 3080 at around $700, my gtx 1070 is working without any problems, I can play modern 4k games no problem with low settings 45 ~ 60 fps and by the way there are plenty 3090 around here and nobody is buying them and I hope nobody buys them.

For graphical part the RDNA 2 engine wins, the almighty ray tracing don't want me to go back to any old graphics cards out there but for mining it doesn't make much difference, infact I prefer RDNA 1 GPUs for mining if you are pro gamer that likes all the whistle and bells in video games then go for RTX30** Family, for mining stick with RX5700 and others

Interesting things brought up with the stolen stock of rtx 3090 cards going on.
It could of just been an inside job making the prices of their new offering for these cards justifiable to make the MRSP $1750 per card. :-[
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_ZoBvZBc80
There is some talk of nvidia releasing the 3080ti to make it the middle ground between the 3080 (82mh/s) 3090 (118mh/s).
So those who are waiting for the 6900xt to come back in stock might just want to hold off on those purchases until then.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKcwk0iBtE8
Dependent if you are a dedicated team red or green miner.

These are the only cards available right now with no 3000 series in stock anywhere.
https://s2.gifyu.com/images/tenor-1bc44fa3542184bdc.md.gif (https://gifyu.com/image/FSZF)

With the massive shortage of 3000 series cards from Nvidia in the past two months, some have wondered why they didn't make enough to fill the demand.
This article I stumbled across might shed some light on where those cards might have ended up in the hands of China mining farms.
https://www.eteknix.com/crypto-miners-may-be-checking-the-3060-ti-out/amp
https://i.ibb.co/VQK5PmH/100017600190-230677.jpg (https://ibb.co/P9S0fQT)
https://i.ibb.co/zbXRRH2/100062100294-6051.jpg (https://ibb.co/sQKwwJ1)

Nvidia executives are dancing for joy because no matter what they have sold out of their current stock and rising prices for customers overseas due to the US/China tariff expiring at the end of last year.
https://s2.gifyu.com/images/tenor98ef8941086f9429.md.gif (https://gifyu.com/image/FZgP)

Navi 2 introduce nothing new but the ray tracing feature I believe , if you are talking mining the different won't be much, take a look at rtx3060, the performance isn't that much compared to RX5700XT and RX5700XT price is cheaper and less scarce unlike RTX GPUs

Interesting video just ran into while looking at gpu prices which have skyrocketed and you would be lucky to even find one for 5x the amount of msrp prices when they were initially released.
https://i.ibb.co/NsyxbHC/2080ti.jpg (https://ibb.co/mGcJgMT)https://i.ibb.co/MVBJG7J/3090.jpg (https://ibb.co/6PXq1Fq)
https://youtu.be/MWWfT7tdb6s

Now this has got to be unreal so to be anymore believable than there is a Santa Claus this time of year.
But 4090 ti has been seen mining over at a pool producing over 3 TH/s which in itself would not be possible even for a generation over a year away.
https://i.ibb.co/Sx5mskZ/4090tihoax.jpg (https://ibb.co/qn7gyH2)
https://wccftech.com/alleged-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4090-ti-amd-radeon-rx-7000-equipped-mining-farm-spotted-over-3-th-s-effective-hash-rate
https://www.techradar.com/news/cryptomining-farm-powered-by-next-gen-nvidia-rtx-4090-ti-gpus-is-less-believable-than-santa

Even if the farm name were labeled as '4090ti test' would not conclude they were these next gen cards available miles ahead of being released.