Navi 21 next generation of rdna better to mine than current navi cards?

[rdbase]

Big Navi announced to drop tomorrow according to a tweet from one of the AMD devs it seems.
https://wccftech.com/amd-big-navi-rdna-2-gpu-powered-radeon-rx-6000-series-unveil-tomorrow

That article was two days ago.. that news was out yesterday.

According to youtube it was less than a day ago which they had leaked information about the 6900 series performance for AMD where they will be releasing it October 28th.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1JUNBAXusA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xw43n0Hv8rY
But release dates always change and I would assume they will bump it closer if the RTX launch from Nvidia on the 17th of this month is going to blow their new offering out of the water.
They will start to get scared the closer this launch date is from Nvidia.

[rdbase]

Excellent video released today regarding the different tiers of AIB involved with graphic card processing.
Also a leaked pic from a chinese tester of Navi 21 with a potential 16gb of gddr6 ram onboard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BR70xbcwB6U



Now I am beginning to have my doubts this release by AMD sometime in October will contend with rtx3090 from Nvidia being released later in the month.

[arielbit]

cons: gddr6

3090/3080 is gddr6x -double bandwidth

if amd uses hbm2e it will contend with 3080/3090, which seems to be not the case.

there is also word out there that amd will use a fast "cache" to supplement that gddr6-will it perform close to gddr6x? we'll see in the very near future.

[rdbase]

Just checked the tech spec sheet on navi 21 the next amd iteration of their rx6000 lineup and it states it will have 12gb of ram onboard.
Yet this leak has 16gb labelled on the card itself. So this might be the testing for the next navi they could be releasing after 3090rtx is dropped after September 24th potential release date?
Or could be just like what nvidia is doing with the 3000 line releasing 3080 with 10gb and 3090 24gb.

[arielbit]

Just checked the tech spec sheet on navi 21 the next amd iteration of their rx6000 lineup and it states it will have 12gb of ram onboard.
Yet this leak has 16gb labelled on the card itself. So this might be the testing for the next navi they could be releasing after 3090rtx is dropped after September 24th potential release date?
Or could be just like what nvidia is doing with the 3000 line releasing 3080 with 10gb and 3090 24gb.

yup. maybe the "12gb is gddr6" and the "16gb is gddr6 with cache".......no hbm2e yet.

high chance amd cards will under perform nvidia, and will try to compete with pricing.

[rdbase]

^^
I am imagining the same scenario the way this is going to play out for this generation of cards being released by each manufacturer of their camps.
With Radeon VII(since discounted) having the HBM memory they will need to pony up the next evolution of this chipset to even compare to the ampere at this point.

[leonair]

I really like the 5700s but 90% of my gpus are 3 years old.  It would be nice if performance was twice as fast as the 5700s, but I would want to see how they preform on other algos.  Eth is great but for a large investment I would need more then one algo.

It is funny you say 5700s as you own one correct? After seeing others doing the xt bios modification.
I just noticed even though you are able to bios mod the 5700 cards to xt clocks it does not affect the hashrates at all.

I have 18 rx 5700s and 5700s XTs and haven't tried bios modding any of them.  I think you can get a little more hash rate but I don't want the possibility of unstable rigs.  i'm getting 51-52 MH/s around 110 -120 watts and they can get 1.1h/s on G31.

18 each of rx 5700 and 5700 XT?

I'm planning on getting 18 pcs of 5700 of non-XT too, based on brand what is the best for you? is it true Powercolor is the 2nd best next to Sapphire.

[badbart]

I really like the 5700s but 90% of my gpus are 3 years old.  It would be nice if performance was twice as fast as the 5700s, but I would want to see how they preform on other algos.  Eth is great but for a large investment I would need more then one algo.

It is funny you say 5700s as you own one correct? After seeing others doing the xt bios modification.
I just noticed even though you are able to bios mod the 5700 cards to xt clocks it does not affect the hashrates at all.

I have 18 rx 5700s and 5700s XTs and haven't tried bios modding any of them.  I think you can get a little more hash rate but I don't want the possibility of unstable rigs.  i'm getting 51-52 MH/s around 110 -120 watts and they can get 1.1h/s on G31.

18 each of rx 5700 and 5700 XT?

I'm planning on getting 18 pcs of 5700 of non-XT too, based on brand what is the best for you? is it true Powercolor is the 2nd best next to Sapphire.

Since that post i have about 30 now and bios modded some.  The blower cards are the best card they run cool and have very cool memory temps and consume less power but I don' think they make then anymore.  I buy open box what ever they have and I can't tell a difference between brands. 

[mochaaa]

should be interesting, second gen tsmc 7nm vs samsung 8nm.. seems nvidia went with the more power to make up for the lower efficiency design

[rdbase]

should be interesting, second gen tsmc 7nm vs samsung 8nm.. seems nvidia went with the more power to make up for the lower efficiency design

MSI gaming is having a livestream of the 3080 specs and it has been running for about an hour now so should be over soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AI1aUmsKiZk
The AIB cards are being advertised by almost all gaming youtuber from here to timbuktu over the past 12 hours.

I'll just wait til the AMD cards start rolling out(sooner than later now!) since they have showed some leaks of what the cards will look like so to compete with these rtx3000 series cards from Nvidia.

[Metroid]

high chance amd cards will under perform nvidia, and will try to compete with pricing.

yeah, amd will go for pricing. There is no question about that and I do not expect to be close to what we see rtx 3080 produce, at maximum, in my opinion, 2080 ti performance.

[arielbit]

high chance amd cards will under perform nvidia, and will try to compete with pricing.

yeah, amd will go for pricing. There is no question about that and I do not expect to be close to what we see rtx 3080 produce, at maximum, in my opinion, 2080 ti performance.

2080ti is around 3070 performance....and nvidia will finish the fight with 3070ti so there is nowhere to go for amd.

and people like this..

i have no AMD 5700, 5600, but i have much nvidia cards like p104, p106, 1070 and much more AMD cards.

they're going crazy specially now that the 3080's are going online..one..by one...by one... LOL  

[rdbase]

Release of the specs for big navi will be out tomorrow so now the wait will finally be over to see if it will beat 3080&3090rtx cards in mining performance.
https://www.pocket-lint.com/laptops/news/154417-how-to-watch-amds-radeon-rx-6000-launch-event

[rdbase]

The AMD 6000 series cards look to be beast cards everybody was expecting in the navi series all along.
Here is the release video from amd a couple of days ago:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHpgu-cTjyM

This is the supercut version of the announcement so if you don't have 25 minutes to spend watching the above video and just want the facts and not the glamour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKuJNFMeoCo

People are speculating what the infinite cache will do for mining.
We won't know until the devs of the miner software can take a long at it and work their magic to pump up those hashrates above what the 3080/3090 rtx cards can do with ethash above 100 mh/s.

[rdbase]

Very funny video of nvidia user on a foreign version of The Maury Povich show
Let's hope this doesn't happen to AMD users on the day of launch for the 6000 series cards.
"You sold your 2080ti thinking to get better performance than a 3080?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq1MaRWmqhc

[rdbase]

cons: gddr6

3090/3080 is gddr6x -double bandwidth

if amd uses hbm2e it will contend with 3080/3090, which seems to be not the case.

there is also word out there that amd will use a fast "cache" to supplement that gddr6-will it perform close to gddr6x? we'll see in the very near future.

Yet AMD has smart access memory, when tested have an advantage over nvidia video cards according to the testing that has been done when it comes to mining (remember we are talking about mining and not the gaming aspects of these cards):
https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2020-amd-radeon-rx-6800-and-6800-xt-review

[rdbase]

There is such limited supply of the 3090 cards and having over $30,000 worth on skids of these cards being stolen of msi stock, don't expect more anytime in the near future being available at your local retailers:
https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-rtx-3090-stock-stolen-msi

The launch of the 6900xt is today and a retailers in switzerland is stating they will have 35 of these cards on hand to sell publicaly.
So these will be the unicorns of the gpu hunt with the latest release of their top-tier cards by both nvidia and amd?

[rdbase]

This guy who waited in the cold overnight was offered a 3090 in a trade for their 6900xt.
I was sort of surprised for a $500 more in the price difference they didn't take the offer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qMHPXrg288

[Metroid]

Well I can buy anytime a 3090 for 1750 usd, the way prices are, 1750 usd for it is a bargain, scalpers must be selling for 2300 usd or more, is not a bad price but for what it offers, no way, I'm waiting for a 3080 at around $700, my gtx 1070 is working without any problems, I can play modern 4k games no problem with low settings 45 ~ 60 fps and by the way there are plenty 3090 around here and nobody is buying them and I hope nobody buys them.

[Novatech8]

For graphical part the RDNA 2 engine wins, the almighty ray tracing don't want me to go back to any old graphics cards out there but for mining it doesn't make much difference, infact I prefer RDNA 1 GPUs for mining if you are pro gamer that likes all the whistle and bells in video games then go for RTX30** Family, for mining stick with RX5700 and others