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When your mind at stable state, you may assume like you have all the control over yourself. But when you are too excited with your adrenaline triggered, your assumptions definitely go upside down. This is the simple reason why we do come across lots of addicts everywhere. Yes, not just in gambling but with any other activities, which makes you feel like too excited or too aggressive may end up making you an addict.

When an activity is capable of making you feel like a child (due to rush-up/emotional stir-up), you must need an external help to limit you.

Gambling is capable of enabling you to time-travel. Yes, you will forget all your stress of your family problems and your work pressures. So, get back to your time of present, you must need some limiting feature in terms of hours. It can be from a mobile alarm or a friendly warning from family members but a perfectly working one should be what that casino itself not letting you to continue, agree?

Limiting feature may not be needed for a physical casino as you cannot stay there all the day but definitely needed for online houses.

I believe this is time for demanding such limiting feature from the all our crypto gambling houses. This may not work in their favor hence we cannot expect them to agree on hearing such a demand on first time itself. But, when gamblers start supporting a house with such a feature, other houses may start implementing it.

A change for good cause may start only when we voice out!

Think about talking to your gambling houses not just for you but for all other fellow gamblers who never realize their addictions.

Indeed but in all honesty, why would gambling casinos put much effort into that right? I mean, it would still be quite reliant on the self-control of the individual himself. Especially if one is a deep in to it type of addict, they'd literally do anything to do what they want, maybe even flying to another country if given the chance. Plus, the "limit" itself is kind of an abstract thing tbh and is mostly judged subjectively. There really isn't any fixed limit for every one of us after all, so letting a third party do it for us may actually just be detrimental at times.

Given a scenario where gambling casinos make you stop gambling after let's say 3 hours, most players would probably opt to leave the said casino and play somewhere they could paly to their fill right? This is contradicting the initial idea of a gambling casino which is to make money, so why would they do so right? I'm not downsizing the idea of having a limit feature but just saying that casinos would probably not do it since their main goal is to profit and the like.

Possible reasons why you get excited over something is because of doing the same thing over and over which makes you bored and makes you wanna do other things that you might have think of like gambling for example. Everyone must have limit to everything when it comes to have entertainment.

I'm sure that you know that when we don't limit our entertainment then it will result in addiction and when addiction start some things bad or not good might happen. Some people sell their things just to have money for gambling. That is why I strongly agree that there should be a limit to everything that can cause bad things.

Feature like that is good as long as it is safe and won't be abused. It should however exist in most things in society that people can get addicted to and involve gambling. So I don't see why it shouldn't happen to physical casinos, foods, sports etc.

I probably won't be too concerned if my relation is "addicted" to organic fresh mangoes... same way I won't be too concerned if he/she is "addicted" to good betting business that pays him consistently or pays his bills.

Casinos and businesss shouldn't allow things that cause addiction to customers... especially those customers that consume unhealthy/unsafe/bad things  from them. You don't make your website/building/products too attractive if people are getting addicted to bad/unsafe things in them.



By the way, I'm abit cautious of the words "external limiting factor". The external factors should be stated clearly.

I really agree with this, I also experienced gambling with my friends which made us happier and to bond more while gambling.
But if we will get to use with this and always losing our money on gambling while we entertain, it's not healthy anymore. Since there are some gamblers who treat gambling for entertainment and do not care even they lose their money, we should be aware of this kind of mentality.

A casino which prohibits you from gambling? Why would they do that? It's all a matter of business for them. They don't care how addicted you are because the more the money you spend, the happier they are. Maybe the casino itself will only interfere the moment you create some commotion.

With regards about the physical limitong feature, it can be an effective one. However, we had saying that "If there's a will, there's a way" ;D. Even how many phone calls came from your friend or even how many alarms you set, they will be all pointless if you are really eager to gamble. So for me what is more important for limiting yourself  is self discipline. Because if you are disciplined enough, such simple temptation can't defeat you :)

I doubt any gambling house will come forward to implement such hour restrictions because it will deeply impact their core business in this highly competitive times and due to covid19 outbreak and its isolation requirements, gambling houses are reaching their new highs in terms of revenue generations hence they may not prefer to get disturbed during their peak times.

Moreover, a gambling should feel their own responsibilities to restrict themselves. I guess every gambling house will say the same thing if you ask about adding such restricting features. In my country, there is no restrictions about smoking and alcohol consumption which is left to individuals like if they care their own health then they should limit themselves. When government itself working this way, how we can expect a business corporate to care about their users.

That's the purpose of gambling right? For entertainment, and it can make us forget our problems and the reality once we are on the game because we are too focused on playing. It has the same effect as alcohol and drugs, it makes us forget everything. And that's also are the major addictions people usually have.

We really need to limit ourselves when gambling to avoid getting so into it. We need to control ourselves when gambling, but I don't think houses would provide that limiting feature. Casinos would not care if their customers are getting addicted or not, as long as they are earning. It's not actually the casino's job to limit every gambler, it's on us.

The gambling casino will never agree to this and it is hard to implement. The casino owners want people to wager more and more and they do not care if people are losing their money quickly.
The only option is to limit yourself and to know your boundaries and play within certain limits so the loss wont make us bankrupt.

The primary purpose of gambling businesses is to make money not to limit their customers spending that money by putting such features and regardless on what feature a casino or sports betting site implement. if a gambler is really into it, especially when their in a winstreak there's no stopping them from playing.

Making money is one of the biggest points of gambling, I agree. But the main thing about gambling is always fun. You can experience a lot of trouble when you miss this point. Making money is, of course, great, but I think don't forget to have fun while dealing with gambling.

It's a must that we should limit ourselves as we gamble or any leisure and entertainment that we're involved with. And times do come that you are unable to help and control yourself because of the emotion that you're allowing to explode.

In gambling, the points mentioned are correct. You can't direct a casino or house and tell them that they should limit their gamblers because it's their livelihood and they earn from it. This limitation must be applied to ourselves on our own.

The juggle between making money from gambling and enjoying while gambling not everyone can handle it. The moment one can handle it and have control they would be able to have fun and enjoy the game as it is meant to be that way but people have turned it as money making machine. Some can turn it in their favour and rest of them just keep losing it.

^ You are definitely right, it depends on how to handle the gambler himself as a gambler. Just like you are spending your money to entertain your self, like watching a movie in a theater and spending your bucks in popcorn and soft drinks while watching. Sometimes we noticed that we are spending too much upon the entertainment we did but we realized we need to have to manage our money from spending on it. A limitation should always there even we think that it is just for fun and I am agreed by the OP.

I think what you are asking can be classified as “nice to have” in many entertainment things.Looks like an option which looks a lot like the “nice to have” in recruitment managers which mean is not of an utmost importance.

I think that is the reason why at least casinos never implemented this by a big margin.There are very few of them who used to have such option but I don’t know if they have it anymore.

Well for some gambling isn't just for fun, some made the gambling a way of living not just to escape from what is in the reality. For me it is more about on being entertained along with risking and testing my fortune with a small amount of money, you know these 2 matters in online gambling. However things gets different when you are doing it physically, like for example you are playing with your friends you'll see that it is not about money or winning, it is about the fun that you guys are together.

Why do you want the limiting feature to exist or be applied on the gambling site itself, if that means it is included in the internal rather than external. After all, when you have control of a stable mind, it is very possible for you to stop even though your adrenaline was previously triggered and the assumptions turned upside down and I admit that sometimes it happens, but actually when you are able to maintain a stable mindset at the same time also you can realize the time to stop or continue, so in this case the limitation or self-limitation arises from internal and not external. Apart from that, one thing that I think is wrong is about gambling which can forget all stress, it is something that is very wrong I guess.

In the past we had a thread here about how to temporarily block your gambling site's account and stay away from it for a while which might be helpful for what OP is suggesting.Forgot the keywords, if I get to know I will link the thread here.

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Doing anything without limits is addiction and it can be fit with any activity in the world and it is more common in the gambling field since money involved here.

I do agree that sometimes a limit is necessary. But those who want could easily cheat the system: just go to another online casino and continue the session. :) So a limit could be helpful as long as it's not mandatory to limit yourself. There are plenty of great websites out there so there's always a way to evade the limit.

This would also affect casino owners. If you implement a limit, all your players willing to cheat the limit will move to another casino owner's pockets. :D

When I was young, where we live before, I saw people doing drugs before going to play gambling, this has made the worst impact on their mind where they can no longer control their sense of activity. they always lose, most of the reasons are they bet double after they lost the first play. it continues until they have no money left in their pocket. Most of the gambling den in our place offers those kinds of things before you play gambling because the result is good to them. whenever the person gets some winning streaks, he keeps betting until he loses it all and the same for the one who always loses on betting when they are high on drugs, they can no longer get away with it. That's why people with the right mind will not take one step into gambling den because they fear that they might not get out as their usual self.

Are you talking about self-inclusions?

The only drawback I see with this self-inclusions is that most of the crypto related gambling websites will let you create an anonymous account and then you can play. But as far as I can remember, Nitrogensports and Bitdice has this on their TOS but I don't know how strict it is being implemented on their end.

Other related thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079626.0


Maybe the keyword you are looking for is "Self-inclusion".

What OP has come up with would be very difficult to make because how would a casino make a gambler stop? Would it be fair?

You say that they shouldn't allow him to continue but what if he's during a winning streak? He'd be able to sue the casino for stopping him from winning more.
Also it wouldn't be fair to set time limits because what would they be? 6 hours? 4 hours? How would you find the best option between allowing people to have enough fun but not too much of it?

Casinos have nothing to do to control or limit our excitement.

We are the ones who need to adjust and not them.

Putting a limit is totally useless. It will just result in a much more aggressive approach when doing gambling.

Every addicted gamblers never think that way because they don't even care about their future. That seemed to be a continuous disease that kills everybody's lives, putting them into financial struggles due to gambling. Those factors brought every addicted person into bondage which cannot be torn out, that's how it works in may ways. However, if we're knowledgeable and knows how to control yourselves I believed it was just a matter of emotional management as well.

Over excitement is the kill shot for many gamblers, not every gambler can control his limits. The online businesses have such downsides, especially in the gambling-related platforms. Some gambling sites offer a time limit function to prevent over gambling and this feature is necessary for protecting their long term interest in case of someone sues the company for attracting him. Such cases are popular in the first world countries.

I doubt if online casinos would even think about having a limiting feature. The more and longer people stay in the platform the more they earn. Escaping from stress, and doing things that you enjoy the most is a good way to relax and relieve stress for a while. However, too much of everything also causes another problem which is addiction. Moderation must be applied to all things.

If we are in stable conditions, of course, we can control ourselves without a problem. I am sure everybody can do that, but when we are high intention or high stress, many of us have lost control of ourselves. That happens too in the gambling games which many of gamblers lose themselves.

The casino will not be related to such conditions because that is totally related to ourselves. We need to have a responsibility with ourselves no matter if we are too excited or not. The only thing that we need to have is we can set how long we can playing gambling, and you can use your phone and set the alarm so you can know that your time is up, and you need to stop gambling as soon as possible. It's about how you control yourself, and that is not the duty of the house.

Why should we put limiting features? Wouldn't it defeat the purpose of entertainment, if you are in a stable mind condition in the first place then that means that you can stop whenever you want, this is a paradoxical solution for a simple problem in my opinion. If you put your self on the shoes of a gambling entrepreneur, would you want your customers to stop playing when the condition is that you will get less revenue for your business? If the answer to that is yes then that means no one is going to do it, besides that is how they earn a lot by playing a lot means they are getting more revenue and they are sane enough not to do it.

I am quoting this one because this takes the cake.

Even if gambling houses will be adding such limiting feature, I believe gamblers will start abusing it by having multiple account or by changing IP addresses or by holding accounts in multiple gambling houses. I guess until gamblers do have a strong will about restricting themselves, no one could save them from addictions. I guess only gamblers need to work on such limiting thing and definitely not the houses.

For these things alone, people are thinking about gambling and other entertainments. But, unfortunately your suggestion is also a valid one. We need gambling for relaxing and again to escape from addictions, again we need another level of relaxation to skip addictions.

It will be possible only when gamblers realize. But, I agree with OP at least for finding time to realize, we must work on having a limiting feature in gambling houses.

Yup, while I find the idea with good intention. I don't believe this even comes to the mind of the casino owners. They benefit from gambling addicts. They wouldn't want to lose their customers. They are the one who benefits from gamblers that spends hours and days inside their establishment. They also believe that they are not responsible for the lost of the players, the players itself are responsible for their own lost. Business owners are greedy animals, they won't care about other as long as they benefit from them. This idea can be used individually by the gamblers.

what about those gambling site that offers big bonuses or money back ? aside from it they also have a warning before a gambler enter and play plus they also support listening to gamblers problem if ever the gambler decided to ban himself for some period of time and many more ,   . this kind of gambling sites do also care too to thier costumers more than they care about money but i think most gambling sites wont do this treatment  so dont label that all gambling site are greedy mate .

It's a bad habit of mine that I cannot stop.
Whenever I win something even just a little bit of the bet I cannot stop being aggressive and trying to bet more thinking luck is on my side.

Excitement is also there of course, when combined the next decision will go wrong.
Trying to control it but I guess that is just pure emotion of being happy for having a win.

It's double edge sword here, and self-inclusion most of the time doesn't work here. Gambler just don't voluntarily says "I'm quitting" and casinos are not going to deny them playing as well. The best thing you can as a gambler is to have control of yourself. Or unless the gambler himself was motivated by financial problems, i.e losing job, no money to play in a casino. And if we don't want to enter that territory, then avoid excessive and aggressive gambling.

I don't think the casino will be added that feature in the members account because they don't care about limiting the money to be used in gambling. When people decide to play gambling, they need to know about how to limit their money so they can avoid the loss of their money. They can also remember that they need to control themselves while they are playing gambling because the casino or gambling website don't want to know about that. The gambling site only knows that they can make money from the gamblers.

I'm sorry but I think you are lost here, why would they allow this feature when it will only limit their income.
As a gambler, we should already be aware the risk, let us not expect that the gambling site will just baby sit us when we are playing .

This is business, they are profit oriented so they would not mind what you are feeling or what you are going through.
gambling addiction is cause by your lack of discipline, gambling sites cannot be blame on this, and besides, we are not force to gamble, they cannot make a feature just to benefit the few but would result to a decreases of their profitability.

The longer you stay in a casino, the higher the chances you'll lose everything, and that's a hundred percent proven and tested. No matter how lucky you think you were, you'll always end up lossing everything If you keep betting your winnings. I know, that a little too hard to control once you have the momentum, but It's harder to accept the outcome once you lost the amount of winning that you supposed to take home. That's where addiction and obsession in winning will take place, and once you're hooked to it, that's a hard habit to break.

A limiting feature but not a total limitation I guess? because gamblers have their own choices to be made, whether to retrieve their losses or to stop gambling because they already lost allot. Well, A feature that is some sort of just a reminder will help but when it becomes a thing to totally block the gambler to play just because they already reach the programmed limits, it isn't fair for the side of the online house and in some sense, not fair for the side of the gambler who wishes to recover their losses despite of knowing the consequence of not stopping.

Great idea but I don't think it will work well there's nothing to lose if we try. Anyway, IMO this kind of limitation stuff should be a personal problem that should be addressed personally. Online houses are apparently doesn't have anythig to do with it. Addiction in some way can be resolve by a little initiation of practice of setting time to stop till it become a habit. It sounded easy yet really hard but it can really be done by simply doing it. That's how simple it is, that it doesn't even require someone's interruption. Or if possible, you could've set up your boundary, like some sort of pc/gadgets will automaticallly shutdown at a certain time, this is just an idea but if it were to exist then why bother someone if you could do it alone. Atleast by this, you'll be forced to wait that might lead to sudden shift of you attention else where.

Well said, everything has its own limit, we should not focus on something that would not make us a better person, just like gambling we should not spend our whole time on gambling because at the end of the day it is not good at all because the worst thing you may have by doing that is you may become addicted on it and it will destroy your life if you become you compulsive gambler by playing so many times in one day.

We should do something productive instead of gambling, there are many things we can do like spending our time with our family and friends, learning new things, reading some news or reading some articles about cryptocurrency. Just like me, I am not spending much of my time gambling because I want to become more familiar in cryptocurrency so I always read some articles about it.

Limit feature is really a good idea but may not still be the way to control addiction in gambling in fact, it might cause other negative actions like cheating or go to another casino house after the first one which will make you a casino hopper and begin to be addicted to it. Limiting features may probably have advantages like profit will be distributed to casino houses even online casinos for players may hop from one casino to another every time that a player reached their limit time.

Ain't really in favor of this for we should always know in ourselves when to start and when to stop it but probably it is difficult for everyone. But that is the only and effective way for us not to get addicted to gambling

I admit that sometimes when playing gambling is too much, because I enjoy gambling too much. If indeed there are features that can be
limiting in playing gambling, surely all gamblers will be happy. But the reality is difficult to expect crypto gambling houses to realize these
features. Because for crypto gambling houses making these features will reduce revenue, the more gamblers addicted the more profitable
for them. So we have to limit ourselves in playing gambling.

Yes, it is right. We must limit ourselves in money and time when we are playing gambling because that can prevent us from losing. If we can do that, we will not worry about anything, and we can enjoy gambling because that is what we search for in gambling. We can stop gambling without a problem while we always remember to hold or prevent ourselves from betting in the next round.

The casino will never think about something that will prevent the gamblers from reducing their money and time because they only give the places and all of the fun things for people and people should decide by themselves.

I kinda agree with you I've been involved into gambling and whenever I have a winning streak on sports betting I can't help my self but to bet more and more risky bets as well in playing casino games I think every individuals should set a limit notification or warning just like what you have said an alarm we can set an alarm for example 2 hours of playing online casino in this way no matter we lose or win we could stop the addiction and greediness but it seems this won't work immediately maybe if we do it on a habit maybe we could do it.

Putting a limitation is a wise choice if you really want to avoid being addict in gambling but most of the gamblers didn't have this kind of limitation. That is why many are addicted in gambling, most of them didn't even notice if how many hours they are already playing.

This can be applied also to our gambling expenses so we will not end up losing all of our hard earned money and worst we will end up having too much debt because of gambling. Limitation can surely help in both playing hours and money that you are going to spend.

But that could turn the other way, right?

Most of the gamblers that got addicted in gambling is denying the fact that they are actually addicted. They could say that it is just an entertainment and you and himself didn't know that. There is a limit to gambling being an entertainment because it could turn to nothing or an addiction, though I hope it is not the latter.

Are you wondering why casinos are offering energy drink and alcohol and beverages for free, they studied it once they triggers excitement to their players they will become excited and stimulated to gamble, and once they played in an excited mode they will become addicted to it, we like to excite ourselves when we are playing we drink alcohol and caffeine not knowing our excitement to gambling make us addictive to it.

This is very informative, I must say. And thank you for sharing. But I have realized that if that the case, then these casinos are majorly contributing in making an individual to be indulged and addictive with gambling. Although, individuals should really get a hold and control of themselves, I think that they won’t be able to do so in this situation.

The goal of businesses like casino to make their viewers or players hooked to them to never stop, so as individual we should be disciplined enough to monitor and control ourselves if we are already spending too much and we so unnecessary actions, limiting features may not be see in any casino except to their rules in playing and about the players account but it should be us who will set our limits.

Whenever one gamble, automatically the adrenaline gets triggered. This is real with all form of gambling, even when one gamble for fun there'll be better adrenaline pumping than normal. Even the user with good control will go for high value betting on experiencing continuous loss or success. This isn't out of confidence or something else, all these are out of the control missing. External limiting isn't easy, because when one can't control himself he'll not hear others.

So far there are no gambling sites like that and I don't think we'll have one like that it's like that they are going to limit their income, and if one gambling site does that, the gambler will just shift to a competitor gambling site he may even stop playing to a gambling site that limits his time and money that he can play with and go for a gambling site that does not implement such rule.

It is being tried by the government ; there are places where you are supposed to prove that you can take loss and such.

At the same time due to COVID-19 there have been many restrictions.

But when we talk about casinos which are involved with cryptocurrencies; there is much harder to imply these things.

Crypto casinos are harder to limit in regards to these things ; unfortunately privacy always comes in between but I do think a lot of positive things can come with things like these.

Physical casinos are actually all about making people gamble more ; all the senses are engaged and with the use of science . Therefore I don't think they will agree to these kinds of limitations. But it is for sure needed.

Exactly! No gambling business will really just set out that kind of restriction unless if they are mandated by the government to do so but doing it willingly? Its an impossible thing.
Who would be a gambling site owner will having that external limiting feature yet their revenue does depend into those people who do play into the site or on the actual physical place.
When we do talk about limits then this is already a responsibility on the gambler itself because it would really be still useless if they do impose such restriction yet
people would find a way or place on where they can play without having this kind of prohibition.

The same as what I'm thinking about this feature if it's gonna be requested to the casino. They won't allow this because they have reminders on their FAQ or any form of reminders on their platform.

This is more of a personal limit and control.

The adrenaline is higher when the gambler is on a winning streak and this is the reason why most of the gamblers are losing their money most of the time.

Limiting yourself in gambling isn't that easy like you said. Yes it is easy to say but if it is that easy to do then the number of gamblers who are losing in gambling must be much lower than it is right now. I agree with this that entertainment things especially in gambling must've a limit. As they always said, all things must have a limit always.

More on with gambler's side indeed. Casino operators will avoid such thing if there's no rules from the government.

Applying this will lessen the potential profits of the house, though it's  a good idea especially for people who don't know how to

control or to those who have aggressive types of approach when playing it will helps them to cool down and not to suffer a lot.

This is a very nice idea indeed. I couldn't agree more.

Having this feature would surely lessen addicted people or people to be addicted in gambling. However, there would be another way for them to cure their thirst. They could still play int other gambling sites if they've hit the limit on a certain gambling site, so on and so forth.

But still, implementing this kind of feature will help a lot of people, and I hope gambling sites are okay with it because all of them doesn't care about people's money, all they care is about making bankrolls every single day.

They can have their own measure for their players. But I haven't seen this kind of feature activated and initiated from them. The only thing that they can do is to give reminders.

And those reminders will depend to the gamblers if they will extract it or just ignore it as they gamble.

You've got a point there. In the house's defense, they might say that they do not have the control over those people gambling in their casino.

It's a good idea to have a limiting feature. I just don't think owners of casinos would really implement that. So if a person really want to limit himself from gambling, it's his full responsibility. Having an alarm would be good or having a friend or family member who would constantly remind you that enough is enough is better. It's up to the person, whatever he thinks that'll work best for him.

You cannot force the limiting feature in gambling as there are workarounds as you mentioned to bypass those limits. One has to first admit that these limits are beneficial for the gamblers and are in place to avoid big money loses. If gamblers understand this, they will always follow these limits.

This can help people not to get addicted to gambling. If strict rules are in place, people will only gamble within limits and will never face gambling addictions. However the question remain that who will make this rule and ensure it is being followed by all casino's and the players ?

For gambling site if they implement it then it is their loss as if people do not lose then how will they make money and they are here for business. So it is onus of each individual to know their limits and be in self-control rather than expecting other to make changes.

I think no matter how many alarms out there to caution a player who's on a winning streak and is about to lose every wins, he will continue to bet. This is where self discipline comes into account. We have to make a habit of not gambling beyond what we can't afford to lose. This comes from developing maturity and experience of facing consequences of losses occurred by gambling urgent and much needed funds. These consequences shape a person into how he will be able to handle it.

We can imagine if we are a gambling owner who has a popular gambling site. And suppose there is a regulation about limiting the gamblers not to become addicting. In that case, I think we will negotiate with the regulators about the amount that will be fair enough for us if we want to use it for our site.

We will need to search for a win-win solution that can works for our site and all gamblers, so we can still make money, and the gamblers can avoid becoming addicting to gambling. Perhaps, that can work well if the gambling owner wants to help people by solving the addicting problem, and the gamblers like to avoid the addicting.

It is not just as simple as that because that will need more discussion between the regulators, the gambling owners, and the people involved in that. Perhaps, we will see other things that will come out from each country, especially for the countries that allow gambling.

Same point as mine. Honestly, it's just a simple logic and self-realization, we don't need this limiting feature if only people know how to limit themselves in the first place, but it's the other way around. So the idea what OP has is somewhat like a theory to lessen gambling addicts. Gambling sites could push this and try it and remove it if it's effect is not good for both of them (players and gambling site itself) simple as that.

What would happen is basically just a trial and error.

It is difficult to prevent a gambling addict from having a limit on his gambling and this is another big disadvantage for the gambling house when they start to have a limit for gamblers. That is why it is still better for us to find a way to avoid gambling because we will also know our mistakes through our big losses. But let's see if the gambling house will do it because it will change big if it happens.

I agree since remember gambling is a total business the owners want their players to wager more so that they can earn more profits on their business and I really don't think there's a site will implement this since it could lessen up their potential profits if there's something like this will exist.

And also you are right we are the one who's responsible to control ourselves since if we have discipline we don't need those features and I really think even if that one exist for sure addicted gamblers will find ways to gamble more.

I don't think this will be favorable to a casino.

They are earning through these gamblers going to casinos and if they will be limiting these people, I think people would find a way to do something about it. Gambling might be even banned, people will still find a way to gamble, this will not happen but what I wanted to say is that these gamblers will find a way to keep on gambling no matter what.

This is the most questions if a person can limit their exposure to a gambling. Sometimes there's no self control and self discipline over and will do continues betting in a site. There’s a need of determination to avoid addiction since once a person has no limit it cannot be controlled anymore.

Agree with you OP.

We have seen that there are some customer service or consultation or support about such addiction but its impossible for them to set out restriction and as just said by others where this is a business
they can give some support for those who do get addicted but they cant just set out that limiting feature unless if they are told to do so.

As long the government doesnt ask out such changes or doesnt sees that it do really affect badly its citizens then they wont really impose such restriction or laws.

Some might agree into this feature but its really impossible or unlikely for gambling sites to grant such request.

Definitely it is since their main goal is to maximize their income, and they would not know if a gambler is addicted or not and they don't care anyway as that is something personal, the struggle is only between the gambler against himself, their motto is very simple, if you have bets you are welcome, that's it.


It's not the solution, why would you avoid something that is fun, maybe avoid being irresponsible in gambling.

Even after consecutive losses or wins it is impossible to stay within limits once the user has got triggered of gambling. Gamblers never stay within limit until the game goes as predicted. As mentioned, all that's necessary is the maturity. Only with maturity one can know his/her limits and the value of money spend unwanted in the urge of making more money.

Obviously! Never seen one either, and I don't think we will ever see a sign or a warning in a casino that will limit their visitors spending. Its like you are  doing things for them to not earn. All design, colors, vibe, free food, etc in a casino are just like that to encourage their visitors to spend and make them earn money. They won't do something like that cause it will just contradict to their objective in marketing their business.

If there's a casino just like that, its fake. It will never be true and I think they just made it up for compliance or whatsoever they needed to stay legal in law, for them to continue their operation.

It is good for the gamblers because they will not be allowed to spent over limit on gambling but casino will not be happy with this limiting feature. They want people to spent unlimited money on their casino's and they do not care if people lose all their money in gambling. If this rule is ever implemented, casino's will not agree to it.

It's not about agreeing or not but about common sense. If you set the limit it will always be too high for the averager player and too low for a high roller.

You set the limit at 10 thousand USD most people will never reach it but a high roller can go over it with a single bet and be forced to leave without a second attempt.

Well, the casino has nothing to do on this implementation if there is. The best thing they can do is to lure gamblers and let them visit a site that has a massive promo and other prize events. This is good if someone has this kind of mindset, --no one will suffer from addiction and no one will hungry and perhaps ask the government of financial assistance.

This is an excellent suggestion. Gamblers generally are stuck in that spiral of one more game or one more spin or one more wager and then I will be out for the day. But this spiral just never ends unless you are able to break that momentum. But I am pretty sure that no Casino would make such an arrangement because truth is that every casino starts to make money only when the people reach this hyper adrenaline stage when they start to make uncalculated wagers. A casino that alarms you when you reach this stage isn't going to survive a lot of days so such a thing you cannot really expect from a casino but yes you yourself can make such a step in your life to set up something like an alarm to warn yourself once you reach this stage.

Sincerely, this will actually work against the cryptocurrency gambling casinos if they went ahead to implement such features in their platforms. I can't see how this will work per se because they want money from gamblers which means restriction will make them to lose money. Gambling is for entertainment and also for fun but having this features on every gambling platform will help minimize gambling addiction, but none won't help with this feature. It will be better if we the gamblers set limits whenever we finds ourselves on these gambling casinos.

In their defense, it is their choice amd responsibility to stop, right? Well, an addicted gambler can't stop. As long as they have the money to gamble, they'll continue. I think this should really be a move for the government. If these gamblers can't stop, and it is being a problem, the government need to step in to that line to prevent these.

It's true that everything has limits, so we will not become addicted. Especially for entertainment which is a lot
happened over excited. Like watching movies sometimes we spend all day, or playing games can happen the same thing.
So addiction doesn't just happen to gambling. Therefore, we must have external limiting features in order to control it.
When we enjoy entertainment. I usually use an alarm on my watch, to remind me of the time limit for enjoying entertainment,
it has proven effective for me.

In most cases, the best bet to putting a limit to gambling so it doesn't result in an addiction is to tackle it mentally and emotionally . You might have a cute little alarm that reminds you of when you're getting past your limit but it's still easy to lose control.  ~ "This last time"  everytime to a point you lose everything. Getting addicted to something means that you're either emotionally or mentally attached to it. So my take on this is that, regardless of the limiting feature gambling sites (that's if operators and bookmakers implement it), people would still go past their limit if they don't have their addiction under control. They should be able to have some control on a personal level otherwise they might not respect those limits.

Good for you because that can help you to avoid addicting to gambling. You can know when to stop gambling by hearing the alarm on your watch, but you still need to have control for yourself because sometimes, we can forget to stop while we are too busy and enjoy the games. But you did a great thing for yourself to prevent and avoid the addicting to gambling. I hope you can still do that way, and you can still have fun and enjoy playing gambling with limitations.

So this can be the way for the gamblers that the gamblers must have limitations for themselves, and not just have control because, in gambling, we can forget everything once we can feel have fun.

I've mentioned this in a similar topic, there are casinos willing to help you stop your addiction (like self exclusion) but we rarely get to hear these features being used by gamblers. Online casinos could potentially lose profit by doing this but like i've said not many use the feature so it won't hurt the casinos that much if they add an alternative solution that could help a few gamblers stop their addiction at an early stage. Imo they can't go wrong with having such feature on their site.

While i hear something like similar offerings about casinos,This is very rarely to happen because the soul Purpose of casinos is to make money.

From whom?of course from gamblers who started to enjoy and engaged in more bigger betting.

How can they help you control your playing and betting when they are targeting your money to fill their bag?

It's a good idea actually, that's why you need to have someone by your side to remind you that a loss is okay and there's always 'next time'. The problem with gamblers is when they are too attached to the game, and the house is also providing them tons of offers to continue playing. If they lose, they strive to get the loss back as if there's no tomorrow. In addition, it was also good to join communities of gamblers where you could learn and accept the fact that we aren't always lucky. In some other countries, they have already passed a regulation to limit deposit amount of gamblers. That is for those who can't prevent themselves from losing their funds.

I think this is what happened to that person who lost everything in one night because of his greed. If you don't have someone to stop you from getting carried away to any kinds of games out there, then that's a problem. I think most of the people who has lost everything from gambling is either don't have anyone to tell them to stop or someone told them but they've choose not to pay attention with the warning. So the result is not really good where some people lost and never recovered until now.

   
Addition could happen for anything and we cannot have everywhere this limiting feature just because somebody may get addicted if used excessively. We only will be responsible if that happens and no one else. So either we set a time or money for particular thing and ones it reaches maximum we should be out from it is the option we can exercise it.

true and the only one that can help you is your self always make a limit for your game play and stop if you already at lost don't ever think to have them back the money you lost do it again in another days maybe that day is not your lucky day. Gambling site will never help you with your addiction you should be the one who will know how to manage it.

Limiting our gambling time and even the money that we gamble is really up to us don't rely on other people or even in alarms you could always cheat it if you want it would all be on our self control.
It is useless if you can't even control yourself, You would set an alarm and tell yourself that you would stop after it rings but you are already losing or winning and you are being greedy to play more to win more or win back what you lose so the alarm would just be useless.

Actually there are others that can help us from addiction and that is our love ones,they can guide us to forget the eagerness to bet.
and help us move over to find more things that valuable and safe than gambling.
I once an addict in gambling but My family did not give up,from my wife and children to my parents and siblings,they never leave me behind instead they stayed in my side and thats why i won the struggle and back to real life.

its the same as setting an alarm clock before we sleep at night but ended up turning the alarm clock the moment it alarms in the morning and then we will sleep again .  i have done that many times , i dont know if that also happen to you or to others  . im not totally saying that alarm clocks are now useless but they are effective because they wake me up  .  if we use alarms on gambling we can also wake up from the hype or to the anger that we are experiencing compare to when not using any .

It is up to us,but we can also ask our friends or family to help us limit right?
i mean they can at least remind us from time to time as long as we wanted to remind us about the limit in time and money we need to spend in gambling.

This will result to our realization that at some point they don't need to tell you because you can handle the case in good manners.

Really useless if a gambling casinos has this feature but you refuse to be aware of it, when it comes to limitation in gambling it should be the concern of the gambler or get someone you trust that will stop you when you are going over time and losing money that is over your budget, we cannot get a gambling site to automatically do this for you.

I agree with others it's our own responsibility not to be addicted even their is a limiting feature or not in a certain betting site. We should not depend from others so we can't experience addiction and we can convey self determination, and discipline. However, a user should know his limits everytime in playing gambling

I just said it's an alternative solution I didn't say it's the best solution available while it doesn't help the majority of the gamblers that became addicted it can still help a few gamblers in some way. For others blocking their main gambling account could serve as a first step to know their priorities and eventually break their habit.

No I do not agree with it, take a look at where we are, this is a market that was conceived with the idea of giving freedom to those that did not had it and believe this is the right way to do things, does this means there are going to be some few addicted gamblers wasting their money? Yes, but the truth is those people most likely had a predisposition to be addicted anyway and they could have gotten addicted to anything if given enough time and they would have wasted their money anyway.

It can really be an alternative but it wont really be that much effective or cant still be used yet an addicted person would really always find a way to create a new account via vpn iftheir main gambling account had been blocked or restricted.

No business will really consider such step because we know that their primary aim or goal is to make money out of those gamblers and creating a blockage is just literally showing of that they are
are trying to stop their profit making opportunity.

So you wont see anything this kind of decision unless if theyre being required to do so.

It's good that you have that, but there's a lot of instances that you forgot that especially if you are winning and you want to strike while the iron is hot, because it's not everyday that the iron is hot inn gambling, so even if there is a limiting feature in a gambling site, gamblers will just ignore and will just go and keep on playing.

It is a great alternative solution.

But whether these online casinos have it or not, I don't think it will work since as you've said only some people are using it, that feature is rarely used by these gamblers. We can say the casinos are doing their part, we also know that these casinos wanted to earn money since at the end of the day, it is still a business, and we are gamblers.

Yeah i get your point,at least they can show some good deeds for their players i guess?though like what i said Casino operators will do this the very last in the list as they are to profit from our losses and drama is nothing for them.

At some point they might just advertising this for them to look concern and helping but the truth is?
Never that they will make this as priority.

In the end?it is our action being gambler that will save our asses and no one really cares.

Nothing is going to stop unless the user itself want to stop because gambling sites can make profits if gamblers play more and more so we can't expect them to stop us from over betting and other way could be locking our funds for a time frame in a website or in a wallet which also not feasible because no one really want to lock their funds.

I think the same, only you can stop and limit yourself in long run, everything else can be bypassed. There're good ways to limit yourself, to lock some funds where you don't have instant access, with strong character you don't need that, you just need a different wallet, and you will keep your fund safe.
Here we can't talk in general, some people can afford to lose more, some can lose less, some are alone and even if they get busted they will find a way to survive and make money, some have families, and they can't afford to lose a lot and leave family without food. And in all cases you can think of, there are exceptions... people who will do it anyway, without thinking about consequences. And you know what, that's life, some people learn in the easy way, some people learn in hard way, but imposing rules on all the people just because there are few idiots who do it their own way is not good, and this system is all about that, making more rules, more control, with that actions they make even normal people to find another way and to try to bypass those rules.

Well, we can't really believe or even expect these online casinos or gambling sites to make a way to stop us gamblers from betting. It is either the government need to interfere with their policies and regulation or if we realize ourselves that we need to limit or we need to stop gambling. Another thing is that if ever that a casino site would be adding a limiting feature for their accounts, would gamblers really use it?

Not all? I would say the great majority of them do not;) Even myself, with all my discipline for 99% of the time, I have 1% of events where I lose my head and chase losses down until I go bust. It is a terrible feeling to be in, but one not many people know how to manage. So that management starts right at deposit: only put in what you know you should by all logical explanations lose.

External limiting features help, and should be there, but they are almost completely useless if a gambler is adamant to deposit, since he goes elsewhere.

Same stuff, you just repeated it.

It's lucky for you if you're not addicted to gambling, I assume that is because you clearly do not have the funds or time to deep dive in the gambling world. You can't say you're not an addicted gambler just because you deposit a small amount of money and stop playing when you lost all the money you deposited, because you've just taste a sip of what gambling actually taste like.

If you spent most of your time in gambling every single day spending all of your money, and you still have the ability to stop in an instant once you think you're not in a good track, then I'll believe in you saying that you have 99% of self-discipline.

They were made to receive bets, host a gambling platform, and you guys are thinking of an idea where casino to act to stop anyone from gambling. The only thing that the casino can do is to regulate what's going in and out of their platform walking just on the rules set by the state they were registered.

Limits should come from us, the gamblers ourselves coz that is a matter of discipline. Even if the government tells you to have $500 limit in a day/week, would that be enough for anyone to stop betting? besides I think that would be a racist and inequality for the government to do, imagine setting a limit on this guy coz his deposit total history is below a rich person requirement. Casinos on the other hand should always be wary of the people inside their regulations.

Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.

Very relative question. If you place this kind of rules how sure you are that the gamblers will stay?

There are always ways for such gamblers where they can find other places to continue without any restrictions.

It's a good idea for people who like being corrected, but to those who are not then then they are going to find alternative ways to continue.

We are not talking about the same thing. I am saying 99% of us do NOT have the discipline all of the time, and only 1% is the perfect person who stops when he should all of the time.

I would not dare to say I am not addicted or that it is lucky for me,,, I have tried to quit completely but it gets kind of worse if I somehow do not bet and then I come back after a while (real life betting, just buying lucky numbers). And here online I have accounts on several sites if you know me, you can see my same username and see my levels. What is your username on which sites?

Addiction does not automatically mean one stereotype as you describe though.

they will not use it since they don't want to have limit when they are playing. The only persons that can help you to stop is your self by giving your own limit  . If I remember some gamblers take a loan just to continue playing that ventually  will sink them  into debt. Government can also help of they can make a regulation that can help gamblers but gambling sites I don't think they will do it.

I totally agree that the only thing that can limit when playing gambling is ourselves. It is impossible for gambling sites to limit
users from playing gambling on their site, it is ridiculous if there are gambling sites that do that matter. Because for gambling
sites the longer we play gambling the more profitable they are, therefore gambling sites will be makes us users play gambling
until the capital we have runs out. That is how gambling sites get rich.

No, they will definitely stop gambling at that casinos.

That is the thing about gamblers, if they feel that they are being limited and being restricted to do things they wanted, they will go to other place where they could continue what they are doing in the past. I think casino owners are also aware of this that is why for a long time, they would not be accepting this idea. Gamblers themselves should step up, not the casinos not the government.

That's right, limitation is a bad thing in gambling, casinos would not want that either as that will also limit their profit.

If our country, there's a saying when gambling that goes "sky is the limit", so we can gamble whole night until the morning because gambling is fun.
Gamblers already have that kind of attitude, it's already in their system, they don't feel tired or bored even gambling for long hours.

Gamblers will never think about for sure, it much more if you are already addicted to it. And obviously, the gambling site itself never imposed this seriously, they'll be making money from gamblers, and why they should take such responsibility? Not a thing they should do, gambling owners will just to comply with what the regulations stated but actually they are not going to do it.

Nowadays gambling sites are not giving any warning for the maximum amount bet and lot of people claim they accidentally clicked the max amount while entering the bet amount so it is a stupidity to expect something from those sites and as you said its profit driven company so they want the gambler to keep playing.

If at some point this gets implemented it is going to be just to silence those that want that feature in the casinos, because it is obvious it is going to be completely ineffective, after all those that can gamble responsibly do not need something like that at all, and those that have problems with their gambling are not going to use it because they are in denial about their condition, this will only help the few addicted gamblers which are in the phase of recognizing their addiction and which are trying to do something about it.

They are an adult and they should be responsible for their decision. Others can't baby sit them forever. But, yeah if you see someone close to you is addicted to gambling, then you should help him. Though,  remember, you can't really help someone who truly doesn't want to help themselves. No matter how much you try, in the end they end up acting the same way they used to. You should help him when he realizes that he needs help and truly wants to change. Or else you will just be wasting your energy and time. I have learned this the hard way.
Those external limiting features won't help. They will eventually find a way to "bypass" those limiting feature.

I think those are some of the tricks performed by gambling establishments that take advantage of the mistakes of new gamblers who don't know how to gamble in that place, so at least you have to be careful when you are gambling, not to lose your assets immediately.

I can't agree with two people above, but Viscore close enough to my thoughts. Because of above reasons in his posts, we need some government regulations which will implement such "limiting feature", or it will be such "feature" itself. Casinos and sites don't care about gamblers, they just want to increase their profits, but in the same time, in the chain of "gambler-casino" it is they, which can be forced to stop gamblers from loosing everything they have. And limiting feature can be implemented very easy. Because most of people lazy, this will work fine enough with majority i think. (many people can't even use VPN, heh)

It is true that if someone does not intend to change related to addicted gambling, it will be difficult for us to help that person.
How hard our efforts will be in vain, if there is no desire to change from that person. It's a good thing we decide to help someone
who is addicted to gambling, but of course we can not help everyone, because we are only human beings who are full of limitations.
The person must first realize that addicted gambling is detrimental to him, so it will be easier to help that person. And I agree that
regarding the external features used by gambling sites, it will not be able to make people stop playing gambling. For addicted gambling,
they will definitely find a way to continue playing gambling.

It is not a trick.

Most casinos have their own disclaimer and reminder for their gamblers. It's common to know that casinos always want to profit from their gamblers.

But it's not a sort of trick.

Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.

   I don't agree that all entertainment things must have an external limiting feature. You can trust in external limiting features that will
learn what is good and bad for you, you need to learn that for yourself. You need to have a self-control, ability to manage your emotions,
your actions, you can't expect from others to live your life and to help you to not make a mistake, it's all on you!

well it is very unlikely if the money from gambling is used for any charity because I see it is bad behavior, so as much as possible not to do that, if you want to do charity then at least don't use the money from gambling. I think gambling developers are reluctant to do such a charity.

That's true, there's no way we can trust the external limits features if implemented on gambling casinos, even at that; with the use of VPN these features could be override easily. Basically the self-defense which gamblers can use is self-control which is a major tool for this rather than external limit feature. If at the moment restrictions doesn't work well with online gambling casinos how much more can external limit feature work If VPN is available?. Every gambler should be left to his or her own fate.

That's not true here in our country profit from casinos are allocated to sustain the needs of the people who are in need, in fact even in the times of pandemic our casinos here continue to help those who are in need, that's because our casinos here are run by our government and they use the profit to augment the needs of the poor people. Casinos here are a big help to our people, that is why our government opened it in times of pandemic when the go signal to open the economy.

I would agree only if all gambling sites were synchronized, and the limiting feature were working on all of them simultaneously. I'm almost sure that this will be the case in the future, but for now by limiting the activity of a gambler on your site, you are just redirecting him/her to another one.

theres a thread on this board that talk about re opening and adding more casino's in times of pandemic and after the pandemic is over .

 the state of the gambling on your country purely applies to them but at first i wouldnt agree on that thread because i dont believe that gambling can help the people in need  . they only want to make sure that the people they help wont use the funds for gambling back to them because the money will just cycle  .

The whole gambling industry are developed and focused on you not leaving your chair. Why do you never see windows in a brick n mortar casino and no clock or watch in the building? (They want you to forget about the time, because the longer you are there, the more they win)

They will also host hourly giveaways or events to keep you from leaving ...(most online casinos host that in their chat screen in the form of Trivia questions or some kind of bet challenge)

It takes a lot of self discipline and also active awareness of your surroundings to break that influence on you.  ;)

Well, I don't think we should even talk about this since not all of these casinos are like that. In our country we have PCSO which is mandated to provide funds to be used in health programs, medical assistance and such for the people. 55% or 60%(Im not sure) of the allocated money will be the price and 30% will go to charity and the rest to the expenditures of PCSO. It is just different because it is a government-owned and controlled corporation than those other casinos we know but still, you get the point.

It is their business and gamblers need to know it. For watch people now have mobile or watch on their hand so knowing time should not be an issue. Yes, they do not put purposely and those who do not have much control on themself will in the end might lose the money and this is how the casino would keep making money, more people lose money more they make profits.

This is how they lure gamblers in their casino :D.

Unfortunately its like scammers scamming newbie investors. They are attracting the investors so they will invest in what the scammer is offering. With gambling, gambling owner is attracting the gamblers thru giveaways and gamblers are falling into it. The only difference between this is that what gambling owner is doing is legal while the other one isn't :D.

Overall, I agree with what you said that self discipline is the key whenever you are gambling. Just gamble for fun only and not for money because if you gamble for money, you will really get addicted into it that easily.

That's a scam if we don't see the risk or we lose control.

IMO, if you are having fun, time is not important anymore as that will only be a distraction and we can fo understand that casinos will do everythingr the gamblers to continuously gamble as that would give them better chances of becoming more profitable, the longer a gambler will play, slowly their winning chances reduces since the house will always win especially in the long run due to their edge.

Indeed. A gambler must set limits where, when, what time she/he has to take a break. A gambler must be dicipline enough to manage his happiness, frustrations, and other feelings that he is experiencing whenever he is playing on casinos. It's really fun to play there, extremely happy if most of the bets is winning. Signs of progression on your investment in casino gambling.

Friends, family, partner, anyone, or anything can be the external limiting feature on things that you are doing. But as long as you are happy that you are doing that thing, and it doesn't affect you negatively, it's fine.

But still, it isn't easy to make him realize he needs help without he realizes by himself. Maybe we can sit still beside him to watch him playing gambling, but we don't do anything until we can see the situations turn him to start to get many losses. If that happens, maybe we can begin to suggest he stop and don't continue playing gambling.
I think the same as you about the external limiting features because if that person can not control himself, I don't think that features will work for him. Otherwise, he will do it by himself.

Many gamblers get the negative effect of gambling and realize or not, and they are losing much money in gambling. The discipline will be gone for a long time, and the losses will be too high if he can not control himself to stop gambling. The happiness itself will be only temporary because the next thing that can happen is losses more money without he realizes.

I would certainly agree to the notion that you, as a gambler should control the amount of time you gamble on a casino. Much like kids are being controlled their video gaming times by their parents. It will be helpful with the financial and emotional health of the gambler to have a little control in his life by doing such alarm system. Whether by a phone call by the missus or an alarm system set on his mobile phone, anything that would make him aware that he needs to stop and go home.

for the kids its easy to stop because they wont get punished by thier parents if they wont obey but to the adults ? we arent kids anymore thats why we called as adults lol .

 i know there are still that are going to be concern to us if we have our family , friend , wife , etc but they cant say that they will also punish us because we can always fight back . as an adult we tend to break our own rules and much more others rule .

I think not, most of the successful person and even politicians does have someone acting as advisor to support them from their decision. Perhaps, in gambling, your wife could play a very big role to provide caution which help you to avoid losses in times that your emotions tries to make spend more. Also, having a family will help you allot since you have a reason to spend wisely and limit your gambling in order to have funds to put food your table.

That is why I also consider external limiting feature to reduce our losses in gambling. Especially if we don't have someone to provide advice for us.

Anyone that has dealt with an addicted person knows this is the truth, you cannot help them unless they want to help themselves, it could be extremely obvious for you they are destroying their life and you want to help them before they get to that point but if they do not want to listen then there is nothing you can do, which is why proposals like this are useless, most of those that are addicted will never limit their gambling activities willingly unless they themselves have taken the decision in which case they could just stop gambling instead of using a feature in the casino website to get this effect.

I learned self-control by having as much as many hobbies as my time permits me to do so and do an extreme time-management thing for myself. That, perhaps, is my limiting factor in gambling and it has been working pretty well I must say. I am living alone and I haven't been into a serious gambling spree thankfully and it seems that I wouldn't develop such an inclination towards an activity since I am always engaged in a lot of things.

Well I always lose $100 a month in dice. I am okay to forego the amount though if you think about it, that's $1200 in a year that could have been put into good use but whatever..

Im not really fan on totaling my loss in annual basis as long i havent able to spend such amount nor presume that it would really be a fixed amount because it would really be having some changes along the way.

It isnt really needed to have that external limiting feature because you can make yourself to be in controlled if you are really aware on what you are doing even if you do have lots of things to be done or not
as long you are aware that you are spending that much into things which arent really worth to spend on then thats the time you do make such immediate action.

If failed to do so then think back on whats the matter or mistake then try to realize and presume things on what would happen if you do let yourself do continue
to have this bad habit.

Self-control or to hold back yourself can be done by every gambler. But the will itself for each individual is hard to defeat especially if you're too eager to recover with the losses you've made within the day, a week, or even a month.

That is one reason where it is starting and having yourself a limit can reduce that implication if you're too curious and worried about yourself. And as you pursue, you will improve from it.

You know that is not easy, right?

Gamblers that are addicted to gambling can't even realize that they are already addicted to gambling. They can't learn it without someone or anyone making them, that is why people should really be open with their family, the more reason that the government needed to step up to help these people. They will not help themselves unless they realized they are helpless.

That's the worst thing that could happen to us, getting addicted without knowing is like having a disease that would kill us in due time without us knowing. Damn, I don't want to be in that situation and I'm glad when I had some addiction it didn't get worst.

Government? maybe they can help but banning gambling is not good, maybe making rehab facilities for addicted gamblers would help.

The will to stop gambling would not stay for a long time for that person, especially if he can win some money, and it will erode from time to time with the passion for getting more winning.
If that person can not hold himself by stopping from gambling, that will not take too long to see, and he will lose more money. The limiting that we applied will be broken if we lose control.

I don't even know how will they do it.

If they will be doing some regulations or create a law that limits gamblers or even maybe like what they did on UK about proving yourself in front of an ombudsman, people might think that the government is restrictive and it might cause for those gamblers to find a way or a hole for them to gamble without those restrictions or limitations.

Exactly. Actually, it's a big question, what is a "good use" for our money, but let's put that philosophical question aside. :) If you can afford losing $100 a month in dice, it means you are making good money overall. And to be able to carry on on this path you need to relax from time to time. We are not robots, after all!

Btw, limiting your gambling activity by having lots of other interesting hobbies is a great idea. Too bad I odn't have sMerits at the moment.

Yes I do have things that can limit my addiction to any things that describe it as an addiction. First I have my pets, one way of getting pre-occupied that will consume much time keeping away from getting addiction but still have some time to get entertain but not really getting addicted to something. Another way that feel like I should not get addicted for example in gambling was my wife. Literally she is the manager in our house and obviously the law maker and has over power over my rights. Well, I can't argue to it because you know it is very difficult to win an argument against women because that is their specialty.

Yes they can, but they chose not to. Every gamblers are always having thought on stopping after a loss but after a while, they will still decide to give it a try having in their mind that they could win, sadly they mostly don't. It is hard to resist your urge to gamble especially if you have a lot of money on your pocket or the other way around because you badly want to make it multiply.

This is more likely a disease for me. It's a habit from yourself in which you can't control even if you have, you'll still make stupid decisions that will make you suffer even more aside from your loss.

That is greediness ;D

The greediness will come to us, especially if we have a lot of money, as you said. We will feel hard to stop gambling because the sound to continue playing gambling will beat in our ear. But that will not happen if we have the power to say no, it is enough to win this money, so I need to get out of this place before it's too late. Yes, it is a habit from us, but we can learn how to minimize the habit to have more control over ourselves.

Or better that whenever you wanna play,make sure that Wifey is around to check you if already Lose the limit funds so you need to stop playing.
it sounds awkward but we need guidance in gambling because this is addicting and really hard to control by one self .
Let people around us be the instrument for us not getting deeper in this supposedly for entertaining purpose.

Indeed. Guidance from your family members or a friend is sometimes a good help, so you could limit yourself from playing too much in gambling or for someone to say that you should stop. It is why I always asked or invite my friend to go with me to the casino because he is the one who says if we already reach our limit, so it is a sign that we should go home and not try to bet again.

If you have such a dominant life partner but still have the urge of going into gambling then it could worsen your addiction because you might hide your gambling habits from her which could boom at some point if your life.But if you are not addicted to gambling yet then you may never think about it because she will be in your mind when you think about gambling. :D

Good suggestion, you should find someone that can help you not to be addicted to much in gambling addiction. It's not awkward because your relationship and family are on the line once you get addicted on gambling. A character of an individual can also change and can affect his approach to his family so it's better to have someone beside you where you're doing stuff like gambling. If you have a tolerance on getting addicted then it's fine since you can control yourself especially the emotion.

From a moral stand point they should have, but this is an online company that also tries to make a profit because there is cost in running a gambling site and it's not always win for the gambling sites, sometimes there are lucky players who made huge amount from their gambling site, so they need to keep the revenue coming and they are not going to let one button to stop that, some gambling programs may have that feature but majority of gambling sites do not want it.

Man, the same thing will happen to you if you're gambling for fun also, if you don't have strong self control. It's like computer games: you're playing for fun, but you can spent a lot of time in nowhere. Or donate to the game, for fun. The same will be with casinos, but of course you will "donate" and play at the same time.

Steel will is the only way to not be addicted to such things. If you can't say "no" to yourself, when it's a bad idea to start to gamble.

As long as it is within your budget and you can pay for it there is nothing wrong with it, think about all the money people spend on cable, video games, music, software, restaurants and many other activities for leisure and yet they never think of themselves as being addicted to them or as if they have a problem, however as soon as you put a number to the amount of money you lose gambling each month suddenly people think you have a problem, but as I said as long as you are paying your bills and you have enough for your other expenses then what you are spending on your gambling habit does not seem like a lot of money to me.

Since most gamblers are addicted and they have no control over themselves so if such rules of limitations exists, this will force the gamblers not to play more than they can afford to lose. This will also impose restrictions on them and eventually many gamblers will be saved from losing a lot of money.

If most gamblers were addicted, gambling would be banned everywhere, and harsh punishments would be  imposed on those who disobey the ban. According to stats, around 25% of the world population gamble online, and around 50% gamble here and there from time to time. Think of it. If most of those people were addicted, it would lead to grave consequences for society.

Yes mate because being a former gambling active i must say that experiences teaches me about that if you want to really stay safe,
be with someone that you follow and respect whenever you gamble
because in this case,the chance of extending the play after the budget being loss will be preempted and you will be safe for the next round.
Good that i have a supportive and loving wife that allows me to do such with the promise that i will do the same as what she does.

Maybe what he means about most gamblers is people who know to gamble. But I think many gamblers are addicted, and they are spreads in many countries. I don't know how many percentages of the people who gamble online, but I think the number will be big since we don't know the real number. Most people don't mean people in all of the world, but people who play online gambling and offline gambling ;)

Such limiting features could be more suitable for frequent "big" bettors who aren't consistently profitable in their bets. It could also be used to prevent people from betting what they can't afford to lose aka gambling, or better still prevent people from taking too much betting risks

Actually that would be a good idea to limit gamblers most specially now that most gamblers are at home playing at online casinos, limiting features if agreed could be a great help for those gamblers that are taking way too far on their limitations not knowing or not aware they are being struck into getting addicted. Though I doubt online casinos would do such for it is unfavorable for their part for they only concern obtaining money, having a limiting feature will be their great help for the sake and welfare of their players. Self-discipline if hard to be attained would be helped if ever a limiting feature would be set because he would have no choice but to stop for a while and try quite some other time to minimize game plays and to prevent getting addicted on playing gambling games.

So they are just exclusively choosing those big bettors who do lost big time?I do rather believe on the other side of things if thinking off that they can make big bucks if those whale players would lose even more.How the hell they would care for such players specially on online casinos that they dont even know on whose playing in back of the monitor?
For physical casinos then there might be come consideration from the house owner that someone do really spend up that much but its hard to believe that they would completely
stop their profiting moment unless if they do really care for a person but its unlikely eh?

That's right, but the thing is that from all people in the world 26% gamble online and around 50% can be can be called gamblers, to some extent. You can check out the figures yourself by googling "how many people gamble". Here's just one example:


You see, those are big numbers. If most of those people were addicted, it would be a catastrophe.

Yes, I got that. But still, that can not be used for the real data. Okay, maybe you are right, and the statistic is also correct. The things that matter here are how we can protect ourselves and prevent the addicting as you have the internet data. We can learn from the data, and we can also have a chance to select what we want to be if we wish to be part of that percentage or want to be a person who doesn't gamble or limit our time in gambling games.

it is hard to deny the call of gambling specially when you are at home and doing nothing but under quarantine,So the chance of playing everytime we
have Money is there.

Those people that supposedly at work and busy doing something in their computer,now having nothing to enjoy so converting to
gambling is what they do..

So limiting them from playing is a best way to prevent them from losing more and from addiction also.

Yes, sure, all we need to have is a good self-control, and if we don't have it, gambling can be not our biggest problem. If we can't restrain ourselves when it's needed, we can encounter much bigger troubles than just losing money. That's why I'm against external limiting, as OP suggested. Gambling can teach us about self-policing, which can be useful in other fields of life too.

Agreed, obviously there are people that get addicted to gambling but the same can be said about video games, smart phones and many other activities and yet those activities are not forbidden or are look upon with suspicious eyes, most gamblers can control themselves and they know when to stop gambling and while maybe a few gamblers may lose control once in a while this is not enough to categorize them as being addicted, if anything if we are to be worried about a behaviour that is common place in this day and age I will put smart phone addiction at the top of that list.

Any, and by that I mean ANY type of addiction is always wrong. Too much of something is always detrimental to someone, whether it be physically or mentally or emotionally, and that's a fact imo. Addiction isn't too prevalent in casinos, yes, but casinos don't get banned mostly due to the amount of income they get, and the amount of help it does for the economy. Remember that most famous casinos have bigshots playing on them, playing amounts on tens of thousands, or maybe even hundreds of thousands per play.

Plus, imo, if the best for all were taken into account, they'd put more emphasis on preventing addiction instead of letting it happen even the minority. After all, it's always better to fix the negative than admire (or improve) the already positive factors.

From gambling, we can learn to control ourselves because controlling ourselves will be needed in gambling, but it is also required in many aspects. I agree that gambling can teach us about self-policing because that helps us survive in hard situations out of gambling. Gambling is just a place to learn many things that we don't get in real life. That if people can learn something from gambling. We need to think about the positive than to just think about the opposing side.

We can learn means we make mistakes first? Control is a must, that's what you called being a discipline gambler, if possible we don't learn from our mistakes as sometimes that is too costly, believe me I've been there.


Everything can be learn if we are willing to learn, it's just that there are people who doesn't want to learn, they make mistakes but still doing the same mistakes over and over again and that's the reason why they become addicted in gambling, and there's no entertainment anymore as anyone who are addicted in gambling, can't feel the entertainment anymore.

Yes, but if your bets, combined during a certain period of time, are not higher that what you can afford to lose, then the price you pay for your learning is affordable, and you can save much more in the future thanks to your learning from gambling. So, it depends on your purpose: if it's winning a significant amount, then surely it can be too costly, but if it's learning how to restrain yourself from making high bets(which it should be), then it will not cost you much, compared to the value of the acquired knowledge.

I guess that must be done. To have an external limiting feature so that we will be informed on when we should stop on anything we do most specially on playing gambling. But I think that must be done not at all sorts of entertainment things for we must be enjoying some times because we will feel annoyed and feel being controlled if all sort of entertainments will be inputted with an external limiting feature. Better we must be trustful with our own capacity as well to do make control of ourselves and not because something is limiting us to do so. Having an external limiting factor is fine as if it is really in need like for therapeutical procedures of addicted cases on playing gambling to let those individuals better know their limit not to exceed on the usual so they can be able to control themselves on playing too much.

We always make mistakes, but we never learn from those mistakes. Some people can learn from their mistakes because they want to fix that, and they hope that they don't make the same mistake in the future. I also have that experience, and even I almost lose much money if I don't stop. But I learned from that, so that makes me careful.


That is right. It is very difficult if we become addicted to gambling because we never see anything clear. We will see that playing gambling is only the passion that we must do every day. We don't care about the other, and if we win the money, we will stop and celebrate the money.

Even if we all speak out, create a petition, I see no reason for casinos to listen to us. They make money, why should they think about the mental health of their clients? The worse it is, the more money the casino gets.
In addition, no one forces people to become addicted, we do it ourselves. Our health, including mental health, is our responsibility, there is no point in asking third parties to help us be healthy.
We either do what is necessary to be so or we do not.

It all depends on us and its not their obligation to teach us on what are the things we gonna do yet they had just give out some entertainment and people would do the rest.

They wouldn't listen out no matter how we do make argumentations about that limiting feature which is totally dumb for a house to consider for it to be created.

We are all responsible for out money and they don't care on how we gonna spend it through those games.Its up to us people to took the blame not on the house itself.

Casinos will have nothing to do in this because they run, they’re as a business and not as a medical help and if people who do not know or understand about it then nothing can be done about it. For young I can understand they are quite innocent and may not know the difference between right and wrong or its addiction. But what about adult who is very much matured but still can’t stay without gambling inspite of knowing every risk involved if do not remain in control and still we see people becoming addicted to it.

That is why external limiting feature is needed. Even those matured people playing gambling could be addicted because of their wins and losses in gambling. Thus, they could spend more than their allotted funds for gambling, and might borrow funds from other people. Basically, these kind of addiction could destroy one's peoples live so Government is already taking action about it. Perhaps, implementing rules about limits in deposits and withdrawal would be the best way to help the gamblers. But one suggestion I can give is to base the limits depending on the wealth of a person.

If an adult person can not stay without gambling, it will be a mistake because they should know that gambling is not the way to make money.
Gambling is just for searching for the fun thing and spend their time, and if that adult person still playing gambling, they must have the responsibility for what they did because they can think that gambling is an activity that they can do in their free time.
But I am sure that young people will have their control of gambling, and they can take care of themselves and their money.
We must limit our time and money in gambling, so we don't have to lose money while we can enjoy the game only.

sometimes those who have already made a profit will be addicted but when you lose then you just want to try to return the profit you have earned but this way will be wrong, gamblers should be able to control their emotions or if they really intend to gamble for pleasure then they don't will think about whatever money has been spent on gambling.

There could be no wong it they just seeing gambling as a pleasure to them as long as they have the capability to accept whatever happens to their gambled money.
Also as long as they have the extra money to use. What wrong it that they see and use it as pleasure but in reality gambling make them be made them drown in huge debts.
If you are not wealthy enough to throw away money, then you should moderate yourself in gambling.

But government can push them to do so right?we as individual has nothing to do but if we will let government or authorities to take over the issue(as they are also their concern) for sure they will do what is needed to.

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Physical or social Distancing must be implemented and also lessen the allowed people to enter the area to prevent more contact .

I strongly disagree with this. First off, if you think that casinos are so evil, stop working for them. But I have a good news for you, they are not interested in worsening of the mental health of their clients. Quite the contrary, they want as many as possible of healthy clients playing on their platforms, and losing only what they can afford to lose. In that scenario casinos can keep profiting from the house edge. But if the percentage of addicted gamblers crossed a certain threshold(it is below 5% currently), gambling would be banned by the legislation of most countries. And casinos definitely don't want that to happen.

People who use gambling as a pleasure and use more money will not see that gambling can ruin their lives. They will drag themselves into deep gambling without think that spends too much money and time in gambling is not worth doing. Many people finally ruin their lives and their family, which is not knowing anything about what they did in gambling. Before everything is too late to realize, maybe we need to know ourselves better, and having control in gambling will be important.

What a lame excuse. Even if you've earned profits in gambling, keeping on playing hoping to make more profits will never be valid if you're an adult person, especially when you have your own family to raise. Responsibilities always comes first, and it's a shame if a certain individual won't prioritize his family first but gambling.

We might earn profits the first time we tried gambling but let that be only one time, because the next will be always losses and we'll end up giving our family headaches on where should they get money to spend in their everyday needs.

The pattern that most gambling addict wants is impossible to achieve. We all know we always want to win always. But it's not possible. So we want to win "majority" of the time. I've myself lost so much money and time in gambling because of not able to limit myself. And it has ruined many relationship with my friends. These severe consequences has forced me to limit my addictions. Because only with consequences (punishments) we learn it in the most effective way.

I do not blame or say that casinos are to blame for all the troubles. It is a fact that most of all profits are brought to them by dependent players, otherwise you would have significantly fewer people going to the casino than we see now. The question is about the mental health of an individual, not how casinos affect it.


Yes, it can, because it usually happens. The state dictates its own rules for casinos. But there is one nuance. The state will do what is beneficial to it.

You would really learn up things in the end of the line when you already experienced hardship in life and thats the only way i do see for people to learn for most but there are people who do still keep coming back
inspite of the situation that they had experienced, as long they do already have the money to spend on then they do continue even though they are aware on where it would go in the end of the day.
Failures are the best teachers but it depends on how you do gonna realize it because there are people are just making themselves blind and doesnt really care on what they are currently experiencing until
the do already come to a point where everything had lost and do hardly able to recover up.

A very unpleasant story. However, there is little that can be done here. Everyone chooses for himself how to live, how to act, what kind of future will be. Your friend's actions in the past have caused him to become unhappy in the future. It is his choice, one way or another, whether someone likes it or not. In his example, you began to show more resistance to gambling, and this will also affect your tomorrow.

I think as long as we can control ourselves when playing gambling, it will prevent us from becoming addicted. Because we can know
when to stop playing gambling, in fact it is very difficult to control ourselves when playing gambling. Especially when we experience
defeat, we will be more and more curious to try to keep playing until our capital runs out. I have experienced this several times, from
this now I have found a solution, so that I can limit myself when playing gambling. Usually I limit the amount of capital I will use to play
gambling, so when my capital runs out, that's the time for me to stop playing gambling.

Are you sure this is a fact? Because I'm not. I think it is a myth created by media, TV series, books and movies. Why do they try to sell it? Because it sells! People love stories about villains, who profit of the misery of others. So they make up such stories even when there is little to no factual ground for that.

I think it is more likely that most of the profits comes from most of the gamblers, and most gamblers, about 95% of them, are not addicted.

That's 100% accurate, I agree with it, because if we think casinos are making money from people who suffers from their loses, them simply casinos or gambling industry will not grow as our government will ban it.

Thank you! That's exactly my point. Any government, even an evil one like in North Korea, needs healthy citizens. And even if all casinos were owned by them(the government), they would close the business if it harmed too much people. They can easily reap the benefits in other fields(in any field, actually), when people in their country are in good physical and mental health.