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September 11, 2020, 11:58:08 PM
Last edit: September 12, 2020, 12:08:43 AM by Shasha80
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Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.
They are an adult and they should be responsible for their decision. Others can't baby sit them forever. But, yeah if you see someone close to you is addicted to gambling, then you should help him. Though,  remember, you can't really help someone who truly doesn't want to help themselves. No matter how much you try, in the end they end up acting the same way they used to. You should help him when he realizes that he needs help and truly wants to change. Or else you will just be wasting your energy and time. I have learned this the hard way.
Those external limiting features won't help. They will eventually find a way to "bypass" those limiting feature.

It is true that if someone does not intend to change related to addicted gambling, it will be difficult for us to help that person.
How hard our efforts will be in vain, if there is no desire to change from that person. It's a good thing we decide to help someone
who is addicted to gambling, but of course we can not help everyone, because we are only human beings who are full of limitations.
The person must first realize that addicted gambling is detrimental to him, so it will be easier to help that person. And I agree that
regarding the external features used by gambling sites, it will not be able to make people stop playing gambling. For addicted gambling,
they will definitely find a way to continue playing gambling.

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September 12, 2020, 12:10:11 AM
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I think those are some of the tricks performed by gambling establishments that take advantage of the mistakes of new gamblers who don't know how to gamble in that place, so at least you have to be careful when you are gambling, not to lose your assets immediately.
It is not a trick.

Most casinos have their own disclaimer and reminder for their gamblers. It's common to know that casinos always want to profit from their gamblers.

But it's not a sort of trick.



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September 12, 2020, 06:53:40 AM
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I think those are some of the tricks performed by gambling establishments that take advantage of the mistakes of new gamblers who don't know how to gamble in that place, so at least you have to be careful when you are gambling, not to lose your assets immediately.
It is not a trick.

Most casinos have their own disclaimer and reminder for their gamblers. It's common to know that casinos always want to profit from their gamblers.

But it's not a sort of trick.

Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.

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September 12, 2020, 07:01:32 AM
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   I don't agree that all entertainment things must have an external limiting feature. You can trust in external limiting features that will
learn what is good and bad for you, you need to learn that for yourself. You need to have a self-control, ability to manage your emotions,
your actions, you can't expect from others to live your life and to help you to not make a mistake, it's all on you!



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September 12, 2020, 07:38:38 AM
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I think those are some of the tricks performed by gambling establishments that take advantage of the mistakes of new gamblers who don't know how to gamble in that place, so at least you have to be careful when you are gambling, not to lose your assets immediately.
It is not a trick.

Most casinos have their own disclaimer and reminder for their gamblers. It's common to know that casinos always want to profit from their gamblers.

But it's not a sort of trick.

Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.


well it is very unlikely if the money from gambling is used for any charity because I see it is bad behavior, so as much as possible not to do that, if you want to do charity then at least don't use the money from gambling. I think gambling developers are reluctant to do such a charity.

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September 12, 2020, 08:03:20 AM
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  I don't agree that all entertainment things must have an external limiting feature. You can trust in external limiting features that will
learn what is good and bad for you, you need to learn that for yourself. You need to have a self-control, ability to manage your emotions,
your actions, you can't expect from others to live your life and to help you to not make a mistake, it's all on you!
That's true, there's no way we can trust the external limits features if implemented on gambling casinos, even at that; with the use of VPN these features could be override easily. Basically the self-defense which gamblers can use is self-control which is a major tool for this rather than external limit feature. If at the moment restrictions doesn't work well with online gambling casinos how much more can external limit feature work If VPN is available?. Every gambler should be left to his or her own fate.

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Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.



That's not true here in our country profit from casinos are allocated to sustain the needs of the people who are in need, in fact even in the times of pandemic our casinos here continue to help those who are in need, that's because our casinos here are run by our government and they use the profit to augment the needs of the poor people. Casinos here are a big help to our people, that is why our government opened it in times of pandemic when the go signal to open the economy.


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September 12, 2020, 11:03:16 AM
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~ So, get back to your time of present, you must need some limiting feature in terms of hours. It can be from a mobile alarm or a friendly warning from family members but a perfectly working one should be what that casino itself not letting you to continue, agree?
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I would agree only if all gambling sites were synchronized, and the limiting feature were working on all of them simultaneously. I'm almost sure that this will be the case in the future, but for now by limiting the activity of a gambler on your site, you are just redirecting him/her to another one.

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September 12, 2020, 11:13:09 AM
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Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.
That's not true here in our country profit from casinos are allocated to sustain the needs of the people who are in need, in fact even in the times of pandemic our casinos here continue to help those who are in need, that's because our casinos here are run by our government and they use the profit to augment the needs of the poor people. Casinos here are a big help to our people, that is why our government opened it in times of pandemic when the go signal to open the economy.

theres a thread on this board that talk about re opening and adding more casino's in times of pandemic and after the pandemic is over .

 the state of the gambling on your country purely applies to them but at first i wouldnt agree on that thread because i dont believe that gambling can help the people in need  . they only want to make sure that the people they help wont use the funds for gambling back to them because the money will just cycle  .
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September 12, 2020, 12:21:22 PM
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The whole gambling industry are developed and focused on you not leaving your chair. Why do you never see windows in a brick n mortar casino and no clock or watch in the building? (They want you to forget about the time, because the longer you are there, the more they win)

They will also host hourly giveaways or events to keep you from leaving ...(most online casinos host that in their chat screen in the form of Trivia questions or some kind of bet challenge)

It takes a lot of self discipline and also active awareness of your surroundings to break that influence on you.  Wink

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September 12, 2020, 12:48:43 PM
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Gambling sites/Casinos exists for their own profit and not to do any sort of charity to people. This is the truth and people should not ignore this fact. Its fine if you are gambling for enjoyment and to have a good time rather than just for one purpose that is you can make very easy money from it which may not happen as house has an edge than you.
well it is very unlikely if the money from gambling is used for any charity because I see it is bad behavior, so as much as possible not to do that, if you want to do charity then at least don't use the money from gambling. I think gambling developers are reluctant to do such a charity.

Well, I don't think we should even talk about this since not all of these casinos are like that. In our country we have PCSO which is mandated to provide funds to be used in health programs, medical assistance and such for the people. 55% or 60%(Im not sure) of the allocated money will be the price and 30% will go to charity and the rest to the expenditures of PCSO. It is just different because it is a government-owned and controlled corporation than those other casinos we know but still, you get the point.

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September 13, 2020, 08:47:35 AM
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The whole gambling industry are developed and focused on you not leaving your chair. Why do you never see windows in a brick n mortar casino and no clock or watch in the building? (They want you to forget about the time, because the longer you are there, the more they win)

They will also host hourly giveaways or events to keep you from leaving ...(most online casinos host that in their chat screen in the form of Trivia questions or some kind of bet challenge)

It takes a lot of self discipline and also active awareness of your surroundings to break that influence on you.  Wink

It is their business and gamblers need to know it. For watch people now have mobile or watch on their hand so knowing time should not be an issue. Yes, they do not put purposely and those who do not have much control on themself will in the end might lose the money and this is how the casino would keep making money, more people lose money more they make profits.

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The whole gambling industry are developed and focused on you not leaving your chair. Why do you never see windows in a brick n mortar casino and no clock or watch in the building? (They want you to forget about the time, because the longer you are there, the more they win)

They will also host hourly giveaways or events to keep you from leaving ...(most online casinos host that in their chat screen in the form of Trivia questions or some kind of bet challenge)

It takes a lot of self discipline and also active awareness of your surroundings to break that influence on you.  Wink
This is how they lure gamblers in their casino Cheesy.

Unfortunately its like scammers scamming newbie investors. They are attracting the investors so they will invest in what the scammer is offering. With gambling, gambling owner is attracting the gamblers thru giveaways and gamblers are falling into it. The only difference between this is that what gambling owner is doing is legal while the other one isn't Cheesy.

Overall, I agree with what you said that self discipline is the key whenever you are gambling. Just gamble for fun only and not for money because if you gamble for money, you will really get addicted into it that easily.

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September 13, 2020, 12:56:49 PM
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The whole gambling industry are developed and focused on you not leaving your chair. Why do you never see windows in a brick n mortar casino and no clock or watch in the building? (They want you to forget about the time, because the longer you are there, the more they win)

They will also host hourly giveaways or events to keep you from leaving ...(most online casinos host that in their chat screen in the form of Trivia questions or some kind of bet challenge)

It takes a lot of self discipline and also active awareness of your surroundings to break that influence on you.  Wink
This is how they lure gamblers in their casino Cheesy.

Unfortunately its like scammers scamming newbie investors. They are attracting the investors so they will invest in what the scammer is offering. With gambling, gambling owner is attracting the gamblers thru giveaways and gamblers are falling into it. The only difference between this is that what gambling owner is doing is legal while the other one isn't Cheesy.

Overall, I agree with what you said that self discipline is the key whenever you are gambling. Just gamble for fun only and not for money because if you gamble for money, you will really get addicted into it that easily.

That's a scam if we don't see the risk or we lose control.

IMO, if you are having fun, time is not important anymore as that will only be a distraction and we can fo understand that casinos will do everythingr the gamblers to continuously gamble as that would give them better chances of becoming more profitable, the longer a gambler will play, slowly their winning chances reduces since the house will always win especially in the long run due to their edge.

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September 13, 2020, 04:17:47 PM
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Indeed. A gambler must set limits where, when, what time she/he has to take a break. A gambler must be dicipline enough to manage his happiness, frustrations, and other feelings that he is experiencing whenever he is playing on casinos. It's really fun to play there, extremely happy if most of the bets is winning. Signs of progression on your investment in casino gambling.

Friends, family, partner, anyone, or anything can be the external limiting feature on things that you are doing. But as long as you are happy that you are doing that thing, and it doesn't affect you negatively, it's fine.
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September 15, 2020, 06:19:38 AM
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Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.
They are an adult and they should be responsible for their decision. Others can't baby sit them forever. But, yeah if you see someone close to you is addicted to gambling, then you should help him. Though,  remember, you can't really help someone who truly doesn't want to help themselves. No matter how much you try, in the end they end up acting the same way they used to. You should help him when he realizes that he needs help and truly wants to change. Or else you will just be wasting your energy and time. I have learned this the hard way.
Those external limiting features won't help. They will eventually find a way to "bypass" those limiting feature.
But still, it isn't easy to make him realize he needs help without he realizes by himself. Maybe we can sit still beside him to watch him playing gambling, but we don't do anything until we can see the situations turn him to start to get many losses. If that happens, maybe we can begin to suggest he stop and don't continue playing gambling.
I think the same as you about the external limiting features because if that person can not control himself, I don't think that features will work for him. Otherwise, he will do it by himself.

Indeed. A gambler must set limits where, when, what time she/he has to take a break. A gambler must be dicipline enough to manage his happiness, frustrations, and other feelings that he is experiencing whenever he is playing on casinos. It's really fun to play there, extremely happy if most of the bets is winning. Signs of progression on your investment in casino gambling.

Friends, family, partner, anyone, or anything can be the external limiting feature on things that you are doing. But as long as you are happy that you are doing that thing, and it doesn't affect you negatively, it's fine.
Many gamblers get the negative effect of gambling and realize or not, and they are losing much money in gambling. The discipline will be gone for a long time, and the losses will be too high if he can not control himself to stop gambling. The happiness itself will be only temporary because the next thing that can happen is losses more money without he realizes.

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September 15, 2020, 11:47:08 AM
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Gambling is capable of enabling you to time-travel. Yes, you will forget all your stress of your family problems and your work pressures. So, get back to your time of present, you must need some limiting feature in terms of hours. It can be from a mobile alarm or a friendly warning from family members but a perfectly working one should be what that casino itself not letting you to continue, agree?
I really agree with this, I also experienced gambling with my friends which made us happier and to bond more while gambling.
But if we will get to use with this and always losing our money on gambling while we entertain, it's not healthy anymore. Since there are some gamblers who treat gambling for entertainment and do not care even they lose their money, we should be aware of this kind of mentality.

I would certainly agree to the notion that you, as a gambler should control the amount of time you gamble on a casino. Much like kids are being controlled their video gaming times by their parents. It will be helpful with the financial and emotional health of the gambler to have a little control in his life by doing such alarm system. Whether by a phone call by the missus or an alarm system set on his mobile phone, anything that would make him aware that he needs to stop and go home.

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September 15, 2020, 01:24:52 PM
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as a gambler should control the amount of time you gamble on a casino. Much like kids are being controlled their video gaming times by their parents.
for the kids its easy to stop because they wont get punished by thier parents if they wont obey but to the adults ? we arent kids anymore thats why we called as adults lol .

 i know there are still that are going to be concern to us if we have our family , friend , wife , etc but they cant say that they will also punish us because we can always fight back . as an adult we tend to break our own rules and much more others rule .
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September 15, 2020, 01:33:39 PM
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  I don't agree that all entertainment things must have an external limiting feature. You can trust in external limiting features that will
learn what is good and bad for you, you need to learn that for yourself. You need to have a self-control, ability to manage your emotions,
your actions, you can't expect from others to live your life and to help you to not make a mistake, it's all on you!

I think not, most of the successful person and even politicians does have someone acting as advisor to support them from their decision. Perhaps, in gambling, your wife could play a very big role to provide caution which help you to avoid losses in times that your emotions tries to make spend more. Also, having a family will help you allot since you have a reason to spend wisely and limit your gambling in order to have funds to put food your table.

That is why I also consider external limiting feature to reduce our losses in gambling. Especially if we don't have someone to provide advice for us.
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September 15, 2020, 05:38:28 PM
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Maybe most gamblers don't have a limit and lose their control to manage their money, but I am sure some gamblers can stop gambling immediately because they realize about gambling is just for fun things. Maybe we all have experienced losing all of the money in gambling, but from that experience, we realize that we must control ourselves to manage our money and our time in gambling.

External limiting features can be added, but the gamblers need to take responsibility for themselves, including to avoid becoming an addiction to gambling. No matter how good the features in gambling websites, if the gamblers don't control themselves, it will be useless for them because they will lose more and more money.
They are an adult and they should be responsible for their decision. Others can't baby sit them forever. But, yeah if you see someone close to you is addicted to gambling, then you should help him. Though,  remember, you can't really help someone who truly doesn't want to help themselves. No matter how much you try, in the end they end up acting the same way they used to. You should help him when he realizes that he needs help and truly wants to change. Or else you will just be wasting your energy and time. I have learned this the hard way.
Those external limiting features won't help. They will eventually find a way to "bypass" those limiting feature.
Anyone that has dealt with an addicted person knows this is the truth, you cannot help them unless they want to help themselves, it could be extremely obvious for you they are destroying their life and you want to help them before they get to that point but if they do not want to listen then there is nothing you can do, which is why proposals like this are useless, most of those that are addicted will never limit their gambling activities willingly unless they themselves have taken the decision in which case they could just stop gambling instead of using a feature in the casino website to get this effect.

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