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Aren't you tired of this order anymore?
Do you like someone to give you orders?

So let's revolutionize together

Add me to your trust list and I'll add you
Give me feedback and I'll give you

No we are not tired. Do you feel tired? Please visit your doctor.

Thank you Che Gevara. We were all waiting for you.

Are you just stupid or ridiculous!?
You may get nuked because of those two sentences.
I insist that you have to visit your doctor.

Btw, is this a Meta topic Mr Vandetta?

why not the subject of Meta?


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5117330.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226757.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095156.0
.......
really stupid is you, is the man of the system who is satisfied with the system

This is more cringe than what ever OP said  :o

Wouldn't be that considered as abusing the trust system?. I have something to ask you, will you add someone on your trust list when someone added you in his/her trust list?. Unless the person who add you know you or trusted you then it's okay but if not then I won't. Good luck with your idea.

doesn't the system work like that anyway?
somebody is using this system, but is abusing. it protects its own interests.
I'm calling everyone
use this system

Riot against Lauda and others like him

I hate it to admit but I think some are already abusing the trust system when theymos said that the trust system will be used to determine who will become the dt1 or 2 of the forum. If you are calling everyone to use the system then you will only make it worst as many will abuse it too.

No, if all uses it, no one can abuse it

blackmail, reward (bounty), scare with account ban

everybody should trust each other, otherwise the system will be monopolized in someone's hands.

A+ for bravery. Trust farming in public in Meta takes some balls.

But how about simplifying it into this:

~wolwoo

One simple step, solves the problem conclusively.

already so
the situation in me ~suchmoon  ;)
http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-09_Sat_05.05h/1003533.html

What are you trying to get here? Is it about the recent negative feedbacks you receive that you are trying to change something? Because you won't really gain anything here if you become a DT member just because you ask the people too. You will simply just break the system just because of your selfish desires, besides there is no point on being a DT member here being backed by normal members. Simply just by posting this requesting people to add you in their trust list will just make a lot of DT members involved and they will also put you into their distrust list.

dude, everybody has an agreement with each other
they do it privately with a private message
everybody knows this
most of them have multi accounts
i don't have multi account
I'm starting the chain "everyone trust each other"


"everyone trust each other" beautiful slogan :D

Possibly the most transparent act of trust abuse I’ve seen in 6 years here.

This guy would be fucking dangerous on DT - Definitely heading to my trust settings right now :D

~wolwoo

Edit - I already ~ him previously ;D

You don't have to go, you are already there :D

You have a point there. Now I understand it now, I think I have missed your point earlier. It is true that no one can abuse the system when everybody used it so, what's the point of abusing the system where everyone can use it. I can't imagine how many forum user will become dt.  ::)

Let everyone start using it without fear
then you have the freedom to update these lists again

Anybody who trusts you next week (in Loyce’s update on Saturday) I’m going to ~
You can’t start a bull shit thread like this & try to force yourself in to DT, it’s fucking weird & very untrustworthy. Anybody who plays along with this shit show is equally untrustworthy.

I am trying to change something here, I want to change millions of members from static settings.

who wants is free to do whatever they want
can give negative
can add distrust
ban who wants

Do you think this is the right way to change something? If you have a real plan for change, why don't  you explain it in simple words opened for community to discuss it?
I don't know who you are or why you do this but i think there is more suitable ways to express reasonable ideas.

Indeed! Trust farming in plain sight is something to appreciate and to bow down in front of wolwoo =))) Many do it, but in obscure places of the forum, thus wolwoo deserves a prize for being honest, at least. And, as a personal note, suchmoon has one of the greatest sense of humor here! I love it! :)

Coming back to the baboon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2615217) wolwoo: as I was saying a while ago,


So the last rant was on April 9th, and now is May 9th. So the month passed, and the baboon wolwoo had to perform his monthly duty :) Good job!

What is the point of the trust if everyone is trusting each other?
All you gonna achieve is gather more negative energy and probably get banned at the end.
You can't make revolution in a place like that with that structure . The admin is the Supreme Leader he makes the decisions, you can't change that.

formula of change
profile> trust> trust settings> add the nick> update
I'm not saying "add me absolutely", add someone


The Supreme Leader doesn't interfere with your trust list
you have a freedom zone, use it ;)

Well you did say that, or at least this is what one makes of this


You may have pulled this stunt to create some awareness about trust, inclusions, exclusions, DT etc but most of the users that have not altered their trust settings either don't care or don't know anything about it. And would guesstimate around 95% (that would be 140.000 out of 2.804.711 and probably would be optimistic)

If indeed that is what you were trying to do you had a hell of an execution  :D next time think a bit more before going rambo style with your head first.
I can't believe this boils down to a/some feedback left on your account. Sorry guys but, at least imo, he doesn't look that dumb.

I might do a trade with you but regarding judgement might look trice before jumping to any conclusions.
And one more thing V... “Anarchy means without leaders, not without order." – V for Vendetta.

people are funky about adding feedback and trustlist

reason: there are a few people who are constantly questioning

they do not query their own feedback and lists

I say: start by adding me, and I will add you
so a chain will start and those who use the system for their own benefit will disappear

If you don't add me, add others, don't be afraid
the same people are constantly chosen DT, they have taken over the system

When you take the system from them, it will have no effect

I would assume this could change with more trolls (not talking about you)
Think about this: when is it more likely that an average Joe goes online and leaves a feedback about a product, service, person etc ? When they were screwed, when they were disappointed, when they can't stand/hate someone.
So feedback is mostly left due to a bad circumstance. And I do believe this applies to a grand majority in general, not only in this forum.
Maybe we need to hate each other more  :D (just joking)


In general you are right here. Use their weapons and you level the play field.

Now about the reason, motive, if you are right or not I don't have enough info to come to a final decision of my own (ignorance is bliss). One thing I can say for sure, you definitely are a weird character  :P

Really, who's "they"? And what is the agreement about? You seem to know a lot about this "private" thing. Are you part of the agreement gang?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246495.20

I wish we could be gang like here but it's impossible, would be balance of power
everybody fears strong ones like you
decentralized balance of power is needed
so everyone should join the network

Thank for spelling it out (again) that you will reciprocate with inclusions/exclusions.



That whole thread is built on a flawed premise that you need to take the trust system over in order to get access to lucrative signatures/bounties. There is so much wrong with that and not a single person in the thread dares to question it. Impressive.

That's some of the worst advice I've ever heard, and if I didn't know better I'd say you'd just discovered bitcoin and bitcointalk within the past 12 hours.  For the rest of us who've been around a while, we know that scammers and various untrustworthy slime are lurking around every corner.  That's why there was originally a scammer tag and then the advent of the trust system.

I doubt you're trying to do any of that.  You're coming off more as a person who wants some power in the form of being on default trust.  Unfortunately for you, you've demonstrated your mental instability in multiple posts and it isn't likely you're going to rally people to whatever your cause is (it's hard to understand, because your English is so lousy).

So all this for sig campaigns? WTF?
You're more of a Don Quijote than Vendetta in this case!
Feel a bit sad to find out it's really about feedback and the benjamins.. ffs

actually nothing wrong
the situation in everyone
do the comparison below
How many people did you trust and how many returned to you?
you also have a fun audience
you can do the same for the distrust list

suchmoon Trusts these users' judgement:
1. dooglus (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (217 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. -ck (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (249 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. qwk (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (1556 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Vod (Trust: +28 / =3 / -4) (DT1! (17) 1533 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. kano (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (263 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. SaltySpitoon (Trust: +23 / =1 / -1) (1091 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. mprep (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (610 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 964 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. philipma1957 (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. KWH (Trust: +7 / =2 / -0) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Flying Hellfish (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (745 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. Stunna (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (154 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. Welsh (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (13) 942 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. NLNico (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (260 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. Blazed (Trust: +60 / =1 / -0) (119 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. minifrij (Trust: +12 / =0 / -1) (215 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. yogg (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (1427 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. TheQuin (Trust: neutral) (470 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. hilariousandco (Trust: +19 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (40) 781 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. EcuaMobi (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (429 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (183 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. whywefight (Trust: +4 / =3 / -0) (38 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. DaveF (Trust: +22 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 713 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. owlcatz (Trust: +40 / =0 / -1) (325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. minerjones (Trust: +103 / =1 / -0) (1118 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. tmfp (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (687 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. BitcoinPenny (Trust: +40 / =0 / -0) (672 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. yahoo62278 (Trust: +21 / =3 / -0) (1367 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. Zepher (Trust: +27 / =4 / -0) (96 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. xandry (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (373 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. RHavar (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (580 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. ezeminer (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (96 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
34. hilariousetc (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (1915 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35. sandy-is-fine (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 88 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
36. SyGambler (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
37. MaoChao (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (133 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
38. bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 820 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (59) 5259 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
40. actmyname (Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 902 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. The Pharmacist (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (2493 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. DarkStar_ (Trust: +50 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (33) 1333 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
43. SFR10 (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 408 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
44. TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. TryNinja (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (3) 1469 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
46. eddie13 (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 969 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
47. marlboroza (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (1480 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
48. HCP (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1956 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
49. AdolfinWolf (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (740 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
50. xtraelv (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1576 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
51. Steamtyme (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1577 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
52. BitCryptex (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1327 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
53. Veleor (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (21) 1400 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
54. o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (4089 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
55. chimk (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (703 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
56. iasenko (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1911 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
57. r1s2g3 (Trust: neutral) (388 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
58. DdmrDdmr (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (3739 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
59. Alex_Sr (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 937 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
60. morvillz7z (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1274 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
61. taikuri13 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1239 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
62. DireWolfM14 (Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 1656 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
63. mikeywith (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2378 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


suchmoon's judgement is Trusted by:
1. dooglus (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (217 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. CanaryInTheMine (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (DT1 (-4) 42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. qwk (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (1556 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Vod (Trust: +28 / =3 / -4) (DT1! (17) 1533 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. DiamondCardz (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (90 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 964 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Xian01 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. philipma1957 (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. subSTRATA (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (43 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Bicknellski (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Flying Hellfish (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (745 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. bitserve (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (901 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. TMAN (Trust: +27 / =1 / -1) (1302 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. Lauda (Trust: +33 / =6 / -3) (1604 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. mOgliE (Trust: neutral) (225 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. peonminer (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. Deathwing (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (324 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. vizique (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 504 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. alani123 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (122 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. wwzsocki (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (974 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. monbux (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (19 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. Nestade (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (330 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. allyouracid (Trust: neutral) (165 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. yogg (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (1427 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. TheQuin (Trust: neutral) (470 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. Swordsoffreedom (Trust: neutral) (65 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. dbshck (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 376 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. TheNewAnon135246 (Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (931 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. Bitze (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. stompix (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (997 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. hilariousandco (Trust: +19 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (40) 781 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. Avirunes (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 332 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
34. mindrust (Trust: neutral) (DT1 (-4) 979 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35. vit05 Banned! (Trust: neutral) (425 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
36. ChuckBuck (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (163 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
37. guigui371 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (257 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
38. cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (183 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. Rizzrack (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (165 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
40. JayJuanGee (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1679 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. NeuroticFish (Trust: neutral) (598 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. whywefight (Trust: +4 / =3 / -0) (38 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
43. DaveF (Trust: +22 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 713 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
44. dothebeats (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (201 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. owlcatz (Trust: +40 / =0 / -1) (325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
46. examplens (Trust: +1 / =2 / -0) (184 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
47. nutildah (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 2197 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
48. pixelpowered (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
49. tmfp (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (687 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
50. yahoo62278 (Trust: +21 / =3 / -0) (1367 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
51. Kashif009 Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -5) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
52. Royse777 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
53. LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2175 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
54. lotfiuser (Trust: +0 / =0 / -5) (30 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
55. AverageGlabella (Trust: neutral) (543 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
56. sandy-is-fine (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 88 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
57. mocacinno (Trust: neutral) (1295 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
58. SyGambler (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
59. worthyou (Trust: +1 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
60. klarki (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 183 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
61. MaoChao (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (133 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
62. kken01 (Trust: neutral) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
63. psycodad (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (174 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
64. bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 820 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
65. LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (59) 5259 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
66. actmyname (Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 902 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
67. Last of the V8s (Trust: +8 / =1 / -1) (2952 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
68. Kalemder (Trust: +3 / =0 / -1) (1109 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
69. The Pharmacist (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (2493 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
70. DarkStar_ (Trust: +50 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (33) 1333 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
71. asu (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 629 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
72. SFR10 (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 408 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
73. BitMaxz (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (427 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
74. TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
75. JaredKaragen (Trust: neutral) (156 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
76. DeathAngel (Trust: neutral) (251 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
77. TryNinja (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (3) 1469 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
78. bob123 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (1433 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
79. eddie13 (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 969 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
80. johhnyUA (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (784 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
81. Nagadota (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
82. Jet Cash (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1414 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
83. condoras (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (171 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
84. bL4nkcode (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
85. Slow death (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (302 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
86. Lafu (Trust: +9 / =1 / -0) (963 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
87. panganib999 (Trust: neutral) (33 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
88. cInfiniteBtcLetsShare Banned! (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
89. Hhampuz (Trust: +73 / =3 / -0) (1771 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
90. blurryeyed (Trust: +1 / =5 / -1) (18 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
91. mk4 (Trust: neutral) (1061 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
92. xtraelv (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1576 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
93. Csmiami (Trust: neutral) (241 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
94. Alone055 (Trust: neutral) (176 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
95. cctothemass (Trust: neutral) (33 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
96. hosseinimr93 (Trust: neutral) (514 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
97. Scheede (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (576 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
98. khaled0111 (Trust: neutral) (827 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
99. aundroid (Trust: neutral) (1061 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
100. JollyGood (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 617 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
101. roycilik (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (1435 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
102. Removed CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1121 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
102. allahabadi (Trust: neutral) (51 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
103. Twentyonepaylots (Trust: neutral) (164 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
104. tweetbit (Trust: neutral) (12 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
105. KTChampions (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 842 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
106. amishmanish (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (442 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
107. Steamtyme (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1577 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
108. Untold (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (54 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
109. Coin-1 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 811 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
110. BitCryptex (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1327 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
111. Veleor (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (21) 1400 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
112. sheenshane (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 696 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
113. theyoungmillionaire (Trust: !!!: +6 / =0 / -20) (1012 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
114. o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (4089 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
115. JeromeTash (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (248 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
116. akhjob (Trust: neutral) (311 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
117. Rengga Jati (Trust: neutral) (357 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
118. masulum (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1032 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
119. Jaran goyang2712 (Trust: neutral) (49 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
120. tvplus006 (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 1194 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
121. coinlocket$ (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (1219 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
122. dkbit98 (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (829 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
123. mole0815 (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1164 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
124. witcher_sense (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 1390 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
125. bitmover (Trust: neutral) (1343 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
126. Heisenberg_Hunter (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (914 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
127. asche (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1078 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
128. DdmrDdmr (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (3739 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
129. cabalism13 (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 892 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
130. MeEsH BaCcA (Trust: neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
131. boorocktworule (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
132. Alex_Sr (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 937 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
133. Hellmouth42 (Trust: neutral) (323 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
134. Kriptopsina (Trust: neutral) (139 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
135. morvillz7z (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (8) 1274 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
136. fillippone (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 3103 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
137. taikuri13 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1239 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
138. madnessteat (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1012 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
139. Coolcryptovator (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (15) 1219 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
140. lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1146 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
141. cryptobenn (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
142. kawetsriyanto (Trust: neutral) (668 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
143. DireWolfM14 (Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 1656 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
144. mikeywith (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2378 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
145. MO-COIN (Trust: neutral) (53 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
146. TalkStar (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 551 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
147. 1miau (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 2093 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
148. DIKUL (Trust: neutral) (149 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
149. Nikisa (Trust: neutral) (216 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
150. Harkorede (Trust: neutral) (273 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
151. ICOEthics (Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (882 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
152. alanst (Trust: neutral) (53 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
153. MagicByt3 (Trust: neutral) (365 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
154. 3dOOm (Trust: neutral) (31 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
155. Little Mouse (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (212 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
156. funnychain Banned! (Trust: neutral) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
157. Debonaire217 (Trust: neutral) (295 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
158. Upgrade00 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (403 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
159. twiki (Trust: neutral) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
160. Removed elmanchez (Trust: +1 / =3 / -0) (61 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
160. The-One-Above-All (Trust: # +0 / =0 / -15) (56 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
161. ScamViruS (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (268 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
162. NEW Chlotide (Trust: neutral) (85 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
163. NotATether (Trust: neutral) (173 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
164. bullrun2020bro (Trust: neutral) (424 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
165. Removed blue Snow (Trust: neutral) (105 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-09_Sat_05.05h/234771.html

You can see the count from the convenient numbering LoyceV implemented: ~160 trust me and I trust 60-ish. Not sure what's your point. I've never asked anyone to add me to their list. Or to give me a positive trust rating. On the contrary, I would insist that anyone who thinks I'm doing something wrong with regards to the trust system should exclude me. I'm not the reciprocal type and quite stubborn too, so attempting to change my opinion absent solid facts is a waste of time.

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Back to your little trust farm - someone's getting smarter on page 3:

this is what i say:
nobody adds the person who added himself to the distrust list to the trust list
and yes, everyone sympathizes with the person who added him to the Truslist

Your translation is way off, we can't expect you to study languages while you are busy destroying a forum with your nepotism clique and enjoying a lazy existence by milking 2-3k USD / month from the forum with your friends whilst repulsing thousands of well meaning members away from this place every month, so I'll help you out.

The correct English translation for your quote:

" As most of us know very well, Bitcointalk has become a place where a group we can qualify as 'salaried employees' are actively engaging in reputation destruction operations to prevent new valuable members from participating in lucrative activities like bounty and signature campaigns.

To preempt these completely disclosed and documented nepotism activities in the global forum, it is important that local section users also participate in the Default Trust elections every month to insure their just and fair existence on this forum. "

Provably false. LoyceV made it easy to see: if the words "Trust List" are green then the inclusion/exclusion is mutual, if blue - only one side includes/excludes, and if red - one side includes and the other excludes. There are some red and many blue ones if you look around. Your list of inclusions is almost completely green with one exception.

Also that's not the same as your trust farming proposition in the OP. You literally offered reciprocal trust lists and trust ratings regardless of anything else. That's dangerously irresponsible to say the least and not something a DT1 member should be doing.


It's not my translation, it's Google and clearly labelled as such. Your version is still riddled with the same fallacies and doesn't change the meaning. You're still implying that fiddling with DT will give you a better shot at those lucrative bounties. Please attempt to deny that.

Loycev? Who is Loycev? a member! like me and u!

Ok. He's also the guy who made this: http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-02_Sat_05.02h/1003533.html

Try to read my post once again and maybe you'll get it but I'm not holding my breath.

I know he's the man who did it, but that doesn't give me the right to interfere. not authorized to make rules

As a result of the applications up to now, this system has become a trump card in someone's hands.

I say, add each other, let's build a big chain of trust, otherwise the system is doomed to stay that way

if we don't have the authority to create a trustlist, let's hand it over to Loycev and he'll prepare the lists

You added 39 mutual trusts in 63 (if i didn't count wrong-check please) %61.9

1 dooglus
2 qwk
3 Vod
4 Foxpup
5 philipma1957
6 Flying Hellfish
7 ibminer
8 yogg
9 TheQuin
10 hilariousandco
11 cryptodevil
12 whywefight
13 DaveF
14 owlcatz
15 tmfp
16 yahoo62278
17 sandy-is-fine
18 SyGambler
19 MaoChao
20 LoyceV
21 actmyname
22 The Pharmacist
23 DarkStar_
24 SFR10
25 TwitchySeal
26 bones261
27 TryNinja
28 eddie13
29 xtraelv
30 Steamtyme
31BitCryptex
32 Veleor
33 o_e_l_e_o
34 DdmrDdmr
35 Alex_Sr
36 morvillz7z
37 taikuri13
38 DireWolfM14
39 mikeywith

Loycev
LoyceV's choices were interesting 11 in 19 %57 mutual trust addition rate
1. dooglus
2. gmaxwell
3. Vod
4. SaltySpitoon
5. mprep
6. philipma1957
7. Cyrus
8. Stunna
9. guitarplinker
10. NLNico
11. Blazed
12. hilariousandco
13. cryptodevil
14. suchmoon
15. RHavar
16. The Pharmacist
17. DarkStar_
18. marlboroza
19. coinlocket$


@marlboroza >> I don't know why list deleted!


Anyway, if I add 3-5 multiple accounts to the trust list, the rates will be almost the same or add those that are in higher positions. :D ;D non-mutual trustlist like this ::)


why is the person adding more?
because people choose to follow the general trend, He-She says "I have to do this because everybody did it"

Looks like, wolwoo is just trying to make users aware about using trust list to participate more around the activities here, and that is what most of the other prominent members are promoting right from the creation of the new DT system. Make your own custom Trust list !

If you drag me into your drama, at least make sure the data you're presenting is correct. I worked hard on adding BBCode for Bitcointalk (http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-09_Sat_05.05h/BBCode/459836.txt) on each page of my Trust list viewer. Use it, so you don't make silly mistakes in your color coding:
I count 42% (8 out of 19) Trust list backscratchers.

Case Exhibition 1:


Case Exhibition 2: Maybe it is time to revive Vlad for some impaling (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vlad_the_Impaler). ::)

Case Exhibition 3:

You can get into DT for all you like, but forget about real signature campaigns.

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He is just a sad third world pajeet. No revolution. Nothing. Just petty greed and dumbass nationalism. That is all.

you should be able to speak without insulting
I don't know what these codes mean
I looked manually from your page to the last situation http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-09_Sat_05.05h/459836.html




wooaa I heard there was 2 free places in chipmixer  :D

don't worry i will not apply

Solved. Thanks for the heads up:

you can't scare me with bounty
Also, there is Darkstar in chipmixer, as far as I know, will you make the decision?

https://66.media.tumblr.com/11e4b6d39cf378ed507812345adab69b/tumblr_mqhog031ne1rtljjxo1_500.gifv

How did the monkey mr. Kalemdar get kicked out? :D

Indeed. I don't see any firm and solid arguments and proofs with those arguments. Though he may have a point that trust can be abused by a group or "gang" in here, yet he cannot justify his statements with valid evidences. The revolution attracted many attention, but no one's affirmation.

And the bottom line here is, the trust system is already perfect. It simply shows that if you are worthy of someone's trust, then you must be also trusted by the others. It's just a matter of one's morality if he would cheat in it. And a dumb and immature mindset if one could not accept the fact that there would always be a hierarchy in anything in this world, from government, to a simple household. OP shows mere impertinence, and a person whom couldn't comprehend and accept that one must work hard to reach the top. No wonder why a red-tagged user wanted to have a revolution.

One thing I've learned in my experience, if you wanted to change the system, work hard, climb up top, then change it from within. Not forcing yourself to be heard and be followed.

Looks like you can't read:


He said the same in the Turkish thread and even there some users didn't quite agree with that. How dumb do you have to be to defend this sort of thing?


Ignoring the fact that you have no clue how percentages work, the problem is your reciprocal offer, as quoted above. You're a DT1 member and you're literally saying that you will include anyone who includes you (the second part about feedback doesn't quite apply as long as your DT1 membership is inactive and I hope it stays that way). So you end up supporting other trust abusers like peloso, and farming up your own inclusions.

Yes because this system is unfair, everyone adds to the list mutually


i love forum
ı love people
goodbye :D ;)

Unfortunately, the conclusion results in the trite observation: if everyone is trusted, nobody is trusted.

If we're doing this in the scope of the entire sample then I don't see the use of individualizing trust. One important thing to note is that the idea of a grouping of individuals in DT1 is inevitable and can always be construed regardless of the distribution of trust and distrust throughout the system.

Any time there is mutual trust, one could claim (without any astoundingly explicable reason, mind) that there is a conspiracy, a gang, et al. To forgo sensibilities and leap towards asinine "revolutions" in a privately-owned forum with administrators is to have a childlike fit the likes of the Reputation board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247453.0

the childlike trust system itself
"I trust this"
"I don't trust this"
"Who are you and how much do you know me?" I said this publicly

If you ever spent a few minutes reading stuff instead of spewing whatever comes to your mind you might learn awesome things. For example you might find out that the thread you linked to was a misunderstanding at most, which has been resolved and there was no conspiracy.

But where's the fun in that.

How did you come to the conclusion that the most reasonable and accessible resolution was not to address the members that you believe are dismantling the trust system, but rather to double down on your oppression olympics and try to reduce the system itself to dust?

Anarchy is totally fine - you can go to forums that don't have usernames for that. :)

See the problem is that the dismantling members turned out to be wolwoo, Vispilio, et al, and they're deservedly excluded, at least for now. You can't expect them to reflect on that like adults, so scorched earth it is.

Yes, I know you didn't ask for my opinion but when has that ever stopped me...

I say with the simplest logic
You accuse me of abuse of this system, but one of the users of the system is me
How do you know and trust the people you trust in this virtual environment when you can't even recognize them in real life?
Perhaps the person you trust most is the murderer, thief, pervert. The person you don't trust is perhaps a very good person.

Perhaps we're all in a matrix. What does this have to do with your trust farming?

Very simple! Your (and me-others) judgments don't matter. Because unproven judgments without foundation ...
The decisions made according to these judgments are not fair. It is also used purely for personal-group interest. Anyone with an eye can see this.

But when most of the current DT are undeniably scammer supporters, then any action to force change should be considered no worse or positive.

I think it better that you all join the objective standards guild.

If everyone who recognized that most of DT is corrupt and scammy were united and organised then positive changes could be enacted quickly.

I support nearly any efforts to oust the current crop of DT leaches.

Join the objective standards guild. It will result in scammers and their supporters being kicked out. The last thing they want is a fair and consistent set of rules they have to work with.

Merit is the real cancer but if you reduce the financial leverage of merit via reducing the financial advantages of having subjectivity in the form of red tags then it will help.

First you need a united core. Then you need a set of goals.

Better though to simply have a set of transparent immutable rules then selection of DT is less important.

The DT members all collude with merits and PMs discussing who should be allowed to include who are crying to theymos to raise the 250 limit.  The tears roll if others start to collude haha

Actmyname is not as bad as most of DT.

LOL at trust farming ...they all send each other merits and include each other
Look at all positive trust they send each other and nothing to do with trade in many cases

I think wolwoo deserves more positive trust than all the other DT supporting scammers.

Yes you should get positive trust for having courage to stand up to scammers in DT and trying to boot them out when all the other spineless wretches say nothing at all.

See here, the tRu$T j€di of the forum

*He's targeting someone else because he's angry with me (after all I'm already negative)
*Being Turkish is enough to be a target
*Meanwhile, the wall is knitting around me, the wall of fear
** On the dark side of power but it shows different



The area we are discussing
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247427.msg54414240#msg54414240

Cool story. You forgot to mention bullshit trust ratings you're sending around:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=1003533;page=sent

non bullshit, it's mutual! "I cut the tree that breaks my branch" Turkish proverb

Suchmoon is such an obvious scumbag.

Which of those trust ratings are you wishing to dispute? Friend of lauda, malboroza, tman , nutildah.

But when suchmoon proven scammer pals red trust people for telling the truth about them he has no problem with it ?

I would advise the reader of this thread to research thoroughly before believing a word suchmoon chipmixer spammer says.

I think the revolution is one way forward. Anything to crush the status quo would be an improvement for this forum
Better though an organised union that forces transparent objective standards for all members.

What about suchmoons bullshit trust inclusions they are likely more worrying.
Probably some proven scammers in there and if there are not they will have only been removed recently.

Great to see that subtle sneaky scumbag loycev mr chpmixer spammer and foxpup avatar Milker getting a red tag.
Slimeball that's is always backing and supporting scammers whilst screaming troll at those presenting evidence of scamming he dare not tackle.

Good for the revolution. Just dont forget the scammer supporters. They enabled and facilitated these greedy scamming and trust abusing cretins whilst attacking real whistleblowers.

Scum.

wow.. how did I miss this nonsense thread?

that's right.. more important things....    but i finally decided to see what it was about.


It was about me clicking the ignore button on Wolwoo.   Imagine that.