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May 09, 2020, 09:46:25 PM
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What is the point of the trust if everyone is trusting each other?
All you gonna achieve is gather more negative energy and probably get banned at the end.
You can't make revolution in a place like that with that structure . The admin is the Supreme Leader he makes the decisions, you can't change that.

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May 09, 2020, 09:49:04 PM
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I am trying to change something here, I want to change millions of members from static settings.

Do you think this is the right way to change something? If you have a real plan for change, why don't  you explain it in simple words opened for community to discuss it?
I don't know who you are or why you do this but i think there is more suitable ways to express reasonable ideas.

formula of change
profile> trust> trust settings> add the nick> update
I'm not saying "add me absolutely", add someone

What is the point of the trust if everyone is trusting each other?
All you gonna achieve is gather more negative energy and probably get banned at the end.
You can't make revolution in a place like that with that structure . The admin is the Supreme Leader he makes the decisions, you can't change that.

The Supreme Leader doesn't interfere with your trust list
you have a freedom zone, use it Wink

Kurtla beraber öldürüyorlar, çobanla beraber yiyorlar, sahibiyle beraber ağlıyorlar.
guzuyu zaten ipleyen yok Wink
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May 09, 2020, 11:05:38 PM
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formula of change
profile> trust> trust settings> add the nick> update
I'm not saying "add me absolutely", add someone

Well you did say that, or at least this is what one makes of this

Add me to your trust list and I'll add you
Give me feedback and I'll give you

You may have pulled this stunt to create some awareness about trust, inclusions, exclusions, DT etc but most of the users that have not altered their trust settings either don't care or don't know anything about it. And would guesstimate around 95% (that would be 140.000 out of 2.804.711 and probably would be optimistic)

If indeed that is what you were trying to do you had a hell of an execution  Cheesy next time think a bit more before going rambo style with your head first.
I can't believe this boils down to a/some feedback left on your account. Sorry guys but, at least imo, he doesn't look that dumb.

I might do a trade with you but regarding judgement might look trice before jumping to any conclusions.
And one more thing V... “Anarchy means without leaders, not without order." – V for Vendetta.
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May 09, 2020, 11:13:26 PM
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formula of change
profile> trust> trust settings> add the nick> update
I'm not saying "add me absolutely", add someone

Well you did say that, or at least this is what one makes of this

Add me to your trust list and I'll add you
Give me feedback and I'll give you

You may have pulled this stunt to create some awareness about trust, inclusions, exclusions, DT etc but most of the users that have not altered their trust settings either don't care or don't know anything about it. And would guesstimate around 95% (that would be 140.000 out of 2.804.711 and probably would be optimistic)

If indeed that is what you were trying to do you had a hell of an execution  Cheesy next time think a bit more before going rambo style with your head first.
I can't believe this boils down to a/some feedback left on your account. Sorry guys but, at least imo, he doesn't look that dumb.

I might do a trade with you but regarding judgement might look trice before jumping to any conclusions.
And one more thing V... “Anarchy means without leaders, not without order." – V for Vendetta.


people are funky about adding feedback and trustlist

reason: there are a few people who are constantly questioning

they do not query their own feedback and lists

I say: start by adding me, and I will add you
so a chain will start and those who use the system for their own benefit will disappear

If you don't add me, add others, don't be afraid
the same people are constantly chosen DT, they have taken over the system

When you take the system from them, it will have no effect

Kurtla beraber öldürüyorlar, çobanla beraber yiyorlar, sahibiyle beraber ağlıyorlar.
guzuyu zaten ipleyen yok Wink
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May 09, 2020, 11:32:27 PM
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people are funky about adding feedback and trustlist

I would assume this could change with more trolls (not talking about you)
Think about this: when is it more likely that an average Joe goes online and leaves a feedback about a product, service, person etc ? When they were screwed, when they were disappointed, when they can't stand/hate someone.
So feedback is mostly left due to a bad circumstance. And I do believe this applies to a grand majority in general, not only in this forum.
Maybe we need to hate each other more  Cheesy (just joking)

When you take the system from them, it will have no effect

In general you are right here. Use their weapons and you level the play field.

Now about the reason, motive, if you are right or not I don't have enough info to come to a final decision of my own (ignorance is bliss). One thing I can say for sure, you definitely are a weird character  Tongue
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May 09, 2020, 11:42:44 PM
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dude, everybody has an agreement with each other
they do it privately with a private message
everybody knows this

Really, who's "they"? And what is the agreement about? You seem to know a lot about this "private" thing. Are you part of the agreement gang?
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May 09, 2020, 11:52:00 PM
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dude, everybody has an agreement with each other
they do it privately with a private message
everybody knows this

Really, who's "they"? And what is the agreement about? You seem to know a lot about this "private" thing. Are you part of the agreement gang?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246495.20

I wish we could be gang like here but it's impossible, would be balance of power
everybody fears strong ones like you
decentralized balance of power is needed
so everyone should join the network

Kurtla beraber öldürüyorlar, çobanla beraber yiyorlar, sahibiyle beraber ağlıyorlar.
guzuyu zaten ipleyen yok Wink
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May 10, 2020, 12:06:55 AM
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246495.20

I wish we could be gang like here but it's impossible, would be balance of power
everybody fears strong ones like you
decentralized balance of power is needed
so everyone should join the network

Thank for spelling it out (again) that you will reciprocate with inclusions/exclusions.

-Trustliste ekleyeni eklerim
-Distrust ekleyeni distrust eklerim

Quote from: Google Translate
-I add the adder in Trustlist
-Distrust adder add distrust

That whole thread is built on a flawed premise that you need to take the trust system over in order to get access to lucrative signatures/bounties. There is so much wrong with that and not a single person in the thread dares to question it. Impressive.

Çoğumuzun bildiği üzere Bitcointalk'un bugün geldiği noktada "maaşlı çalışan" olarak niteleyebileceğimiz geçiminin önemli bölümünü forumdan sağlayan bir grup, imza ve bounty kampanyaları gibi gelir potansiyeli olan etkinliklere yeni değerli kullanıcıların katılmasını engellemek adına itibar zedelemeye yönelik art niyetli bazı operasyonlar düzenliyorlar.

Global forumda artık tamamen deşifre olmuş bu tarz nepotizm (adam kayırma) faaliyetlerinin önüne geçebilmek, lokal bölüm kullanıcılarının da forumdaki adaletli ve hakkaniyetli varlığını garanti altına alabilmek için her ay yapılan Default Trust seçimleri büyük önem arz etmektedir.

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As most of us know, a group that provides the most part of Bitcointalk's livelihood, which we can qualify as "salaried employees" from the forum today, is organizing some malicious operations to prevent new valuable users from participating in events with potential for revenue, such as signature and bounty campaigns.

The Default Trust choices made every month are of great importance in order to prevent such nepotism (favoritism) activities that are completely deciphered in the global forum and to guarantee the fair and equitable presence of the local section users in the forum.
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May 10, 2020, 12:12:00 AM
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everybody should trust each other, otherwise the system will be monopolized in someone's hands.
That's some of the worst advice I've ever heard, and if I didn't know better I'd say you'd just discovered bitcoin and bitcointalk within the past 12 hours.  For the rest of us who've been around a while, we know that scammers and various untrustworthy slime are lurking around every corner.  That's why there was originally a scammer tag and then the advent of the trust system.

I am trying to change something here, I want to change millions of members from static settings.

I doubt you're trying to do any of that.  You're coming off more as a person who wants some power in the form of being on default trust.  Unfortunately for you, you've demonstrated your mental instability in multiple posts and it isn't likely you're going to rally people to whatever your cause is (it's hard to understand, because your English is so lousy).

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May 10, 2020, 12:13:00 AM
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So all this for sig campaigns? WTF?
You're more of a Don Quijote than Vendetta in this case!
Feel a bit sad to find out it's really about feedback and the benjamins.. ffs
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Last edit: May 10, 2020, 12:34:03 AM by wolwoo
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That whole thread is built on a flawed premise that you need to take the trust system over in order to get access to lucrative signatures/bounties. There is so much wrong with that and not a single person in the thread dares to question it. Impressive.


actually nothing wrong
the situation in everyone
do the comparison below
How many people did you trust and how many returned to you?
you also have a fun audience
you can do the same for the distrust list

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1. dooglus (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (217 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. -ck (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (249 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. qwk (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (1556 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Vod (Trust: +28 / =3 / -4) (DT1! (17) 1533 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. kano (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (263 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. SaltySpitoon (Trust: +23 / =1 / -1) (1091 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. mprep (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (610 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 964 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. philipma1957 (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. KWH (Trust: +7 / =2 / -0) (45 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Flying Hellfish (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (745 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. Stunna (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (154 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. Welsh (Trust: +5 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (13) 942 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. NLNico (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (260 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. Blazed (Trust: +60 / =1 / -0) (119 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. minifrij (Trust: +12 / =0 / -1) (215 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. yogg (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (1427 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. TheQuin (Trust: neutral) (470 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. hilariousandco (Trust: +19 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (40) 781 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. EcuaMobi (Trust: +17 / =0 / -0) (429 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (183 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. whywefight (Trust: +4 / =3 / -0) (38 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. DaveF (Trust: +22 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 713 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. owlcatz (Trust: +40 / =0 / -1) (325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. minerjones (Trust: +103 / =1 / -0) (1118 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. tmfp (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (687 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. BitcoinPenny (Trust: +40 / =0 / -0) (672 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. yahoo62278 (Trust: +21 / =3 / -0) (1367 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. Zepher (Trust: +27 / =4 / -0) (96 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. xandry (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (373 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. RHavar (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (580 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. ezeminer (Trust: +24 / =0 / -0) (96 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
34. hilariousetc (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (1915 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35. sandy-is-fine (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 88 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
36. SyGambler (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
37. MaoChao (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (133 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
38. bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 820 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (59) 5259 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
40. actmyname (Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 902 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. The Pharmacist (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (2493 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. DarkStar_ (Trust: +50 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (33) 1333 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
43. SFR10 (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 408 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
44. TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. TryNinja (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (3) 1469 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
46. eddie13 (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 969 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
47. marlboroza (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (1480 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
48. HCP (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (1956 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
49. AdolfinWolf (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (740 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
50. xtraelv (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1576 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
51. Steamtyme (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1577 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
52. BitCryptex (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1327 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
53. Veleor (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (21) 1400 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
54. o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (4089 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
55. chimk (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (703 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
56. iasenko (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1911 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
57. r1s2g3 (Trust: neutral) (388 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
58. DdmrDdmr (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (3739 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
59. Alex_Sr (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 937 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
60. morvillz7z (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (Cool 1274 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
61. taikuri13 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1239 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
62. DireWolfM14 (Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 1656 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
63. mikeywith (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2378 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


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1. dooglus (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (217 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. CanaryInTheMine (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (DT1 (-4) 42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. qwk (Trust: +15 / =1 / -0) (1556 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. Vod (Trust: +28 / =3 / -4) (DT1! (17) 1533 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. DiamondCardz (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (90 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 964 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Xian01 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (20 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. philipma1957 (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. subSTRATA (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (43 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. Bicknellski (Trust: +0 / =1 / -1) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Flying Hellfish (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (745 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. ibminer (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. bitserve (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (901 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. TMAN (Trust: +27 / =1 / -1) (1302 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. Lauda (Trust: +33 / =6 / -3) (1604 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. mOgliE (Trust: neutral) (225 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. peonminer (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (27 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. Deathwing (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (324 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. vizique (Trust: +30 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 504 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
20. alani123 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (122 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
21. wwzsocki (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (974 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
22. monbux (Trust: +32 / =0 / -0) (19 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
23. Nestade (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (330 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
24. allyouracid (Trust: neutral) (165 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
25. yogg (Trust: +29 / =0 / -0) (1427 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
26. TheQuin (Trust: neutral) (470 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
27. Swordsoffreedom (Trust: neutral) (65 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
28. dbshck (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 376 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
29. TheNewAnon135246 (Trust: +21 / =0 / -0) (931 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
30. Bitze (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (42 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
31. stompix (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (997 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
32. hilariousandco (Trust: +19 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (40) 781 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
33. Avirunes (Trust: +11 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 332 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
34. mindrust (Trust: neutral) (DT1 (-4) 979 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
35. vit05 Banned! (Trust: neutral) (425 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
36. ChuckBuck (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (163 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
37. guigui371 (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (257 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
38. cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (183 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
39. Rizzrack (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (165 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
40. JayJuanGee (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1679 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
41. NeuroticFish (Trust: neutral) (598 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
42. whywefight (Trust: +4 / =3 / -0) (38 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
43. DaveF (Trust: +22 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 713 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
44. dothebeats (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (201 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
45. owlcatz (Trust: +40 / =0 / -1) (325 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
46. examplens (Trust: +1 / =2 / -0) (184 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
47. nutildah (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 2197 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
48. pixelpowered (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
49. tmfp (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (687 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
50. yahoo62278 (Trust: +21 / =3 / -0) (1367 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
51. Kashif009 Banned! (Trust: +0 / =0 / -5) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
52. Royse777 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (4) 774 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
53. LFC_Bitcoin (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (11) 2175 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
54. lotfiuser (Trust: +0 / =0 / -5) (30 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
55. AverageGlabella (Trust: neutral) (543 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
56. sandy-is-fine (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 88 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
57. mocacinno (Trust: neutral) (1295 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
58. SyGambler (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
59. worthyou (Trust: +1 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
60. klarki (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 183 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
61. MaoChao (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (133 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
62. kken01 (Trust: neutral) (9 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
63. psycodad (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (174 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
64. bones261 (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (18) 820 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
65. LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (59) 5259 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
66. actmyname (Trust: +20 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 902 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
67. Last of the V8s (Trust: +8 / =1 / -1) (2952 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
68. Kalemder (Trust: +3 / =0 / -1) (1109 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
69. The Pharmacist (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (2493 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
70. DarkStar_ (Trust: +50 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (33) 1333 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
71. asu (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 629 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
72. SFR10 (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (1) 408 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
73. BitMaxz (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (427 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
74. TwitchySeal (Trust: +6 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 602 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
75. JaredKaragen (Trust: neutral) (156 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
76. DeathAngel (Trust: neutral) (251 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
77. TryNinja (Trust: neutral) (DT1! (3) 1469 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
78. bob123 (Trust: +1 / =1 / -0) (1433 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
79. eddie13 (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 969 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
80. johhnyUA (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (784 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
81. Nagadota (Trust: +0 / =0 / -2) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
82. Jet Cash (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1414 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
83. condoras (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (171 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
84. bL4nkcode (Trust: +12 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 463 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
85. Slow death (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (302 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
86. Lafu (Trust: +9 / =1 / -0) (963 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
87. panganib999 (Trust: neutral) (33 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
88. cInfiniteBtcLetsShare Banned! (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
89. Hhampuz (Trust: +73 / =3 / -0) (1771 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
90. blurryeyed (Trust: +1 / =5 / -1) (18 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
91. mk4 (Trust: neutral) (1061 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
92. xtraelv (Trust: +7 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1576 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
93. Csmiami (Trust: neutral) (241 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
94. Alone055 (Trust: neutral) (176 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
95. cctothemass (Trust: neutral) (33 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
96. hosseinimr93 (Trust: neutral) (514 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
97. Scheede (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (576 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
98. khaled0111 (Trust: neutral) (827 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
99. aundroid (Trust: neutral) (1061 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
100. JollyGood (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 617 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
101. roycilik (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (1435 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
102. Removed CryptopreneurBrainboss (Trust: +2 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (Cool 1121 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
102. allahabadi (Trust: neutral) (51 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
103. Twentyonepaylots (Trust: neutral) (164 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
104. tweetbit (Trust: neutral) (12 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
105. KTChampions (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 842 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
106. amishmanish (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (442 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
107. Steamtyme (Trust: +8 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (6) 1577 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
108. Untold (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (54 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
109. Coin-1 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (6) 811 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
110. BitCryptex (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (1327 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
111. Veleor (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (21) 1400 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
112. sheenshane (Trust: +3 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (3) 696 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
113. theyoungmillionaire (Trust: !!!: +6 / =0 / -20) (1012 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
114. o_e_l_e_o (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (4089 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
115. JeromeTash (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (248 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
116. akhjob (Trust: neutral) (311 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
117. Rengga Jati (Trust: neutral) (357 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
118. masulum (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (1032 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
119. Jaran goyang2712 (Trust: neutral) (49 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
120. tvplus006 (Trust: +13 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (15) 1194 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
121. coinlocket$ (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (1219 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
122. dkbit98 (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (829 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
123. mole0815 (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (5) 1164 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
124. witcher_sense (Trust: +14 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (19) 1390 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
125. bitmover (Trust: neutral) (1343 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
126. Heisenberg_Hunter (Trust: +2 / =0 / -0) (914 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
127. asche (Trust: +7 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (4) 1078 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
128. DdmrDdmr (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (3739 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
129. cabalism13 (Trust: +11 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (7) 892 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
130. MeEsH BaCcA (Trust: neutral) (10 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
131. boorocktworule (Trust: neutral) (0 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
132. Alex_Sr (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (16) 937 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
133. Hellmouth42 (Trust: neutral) (323 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
134. Kriptopsina (Trust: neutral) (139 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
135. morvillz7z (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (Cool 1274 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
136. fillippone (Trust: +8 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (10) 3103 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
137. taikuri13 (Trust: +4 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (10) 1239 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
138. madnessteat (Trust: +5 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (9) 1012 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
139. Coolcryptovator (Trust: +16 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (15) 1219 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
140. lovesmayfamilis (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (17) 1146 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
141. cryptobenn (Trust: +0 / =0 / -1) (1 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
142. kawetsriyanto (Trust: neutral) (668 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
143. DireWolfM14 (Trust: +18 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (19) 1656 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
144. mikeywith (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (2378 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
145. MO-COIN (Trust: neutral) (53 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
146. TalkStar (Trust: +8 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (7) 551 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
147. 1miau (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 2093 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
148. DIKUL (Trust: neutral) (149 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
149. Nikisa (Trust: neutral) (216 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
150. Harkorede (Trust: neutral) (273 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
151. ICOEthics (Trust: +21 / =1 / -0) (882 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
152. alanst (Trust: neutral) (53 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
153. MagicByt3 (Trust: neutral) (365 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
154. 3dOOm (Trust: neutral) (31 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
155. Little Mouse (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (212 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
156. funnychain Banned! (Trust: neutral) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
157. Debonaire217 (Trust: neutral) (295 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
158. Upgrade00 (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (403 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
159. twiki (Trust: neutral) (4 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
160. Removed elmanchez (Trust: +1 / =3 / -0) (61 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
160. The-One-Above-All (Trust: # +0 / =0 / -15) (56 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
161. ScamViruS (Trust: +1 / =0 / -0) (268 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
162. NEW Chlotide (Trust: neutral) (85 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
163. NotATether (Trust: neutral) (173 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
164. bullrun2020bro (Trust: neutral) (424 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
165. Removed blue Snow (Trust: neutral) (105 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

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May 10, 2020, 12:29:58 AM
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How many people did you trust and how many returned to you?

You can see the count from the convenient numbering LoyceV implemented: ~160 trust me and I trust 60-ish. Not sure what's your point. I've never asked anyone to add me to their list. Or to give me a positive trust rating. On the contrary, I would insist that anyone who thinks I'm doing something wrong with regards to the trust system should exclude me. I'm not the reciprocal type and quite stubborn too, so attempting to change my opinion absent solid facts is a waste of time.



Back to your little trust farm - someone's getting smarter on page 3:

Bu durumların açık açık konuşulması doğru değil evet ama eğer birisi bana guvenmis ise ve beni eklediğini görmüş isem. Hemen olmaz belki ama bunu usturuplu bir şekilde 2-3 hafta sonra gereken neyse onu yaparım. Twitter gibi takibe takip olmaz ama bunun yolu yöntemi vardır. Herkesin öyle ya da böyle destek olması lazım birbirine.

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It is not right to talk about these situations openly, yes, but if someone trusted me and I saw that he added me. It may not happen right away, but I will do it decently after 2-3 weeks. There is no follow-up like Twitter, but there is a way to do this. Everyone should support each other one way or another.
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snip

this is what i say:
nobody adds the person who added himself to the distrust list to the trust list
and yes, everyone sympathizes with the person who added him to the Truslist

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May 10, 2020, 12:49:22 AM
Last edit: May 10, 2020, 01:10:02 AM by Vispilio
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~~~That whole thread is built on a flawed premise that you need to take the trust system over in order to get access to lucrative signatures/bounties. There is so much wrong with that and not a single person in the thread dares to question it. Impressive.

Çoğumuzun bildiği üzere Bitcointalk'un bugün geldiği noktada "maaşlı çalışan" olarak niteleyebileceğimiz geçiminin önemli bölümünü forumdan sağlayan bir grup, imza ve bounty kampanyaları gibi gelir potansiyeli olan etkinliklere yeni değerli kullanıcıların katılmasını engellemek adına itibar zedelemeye yönelik art niyetli bazı operasyonlar düzenliyorlar.

Global forumda artık tamamen deşifre olmuş bu tarz nepotizm (adam kayırma) faaliyetlerinin önüne geçebilmek, lokal bölüm kullanıcılarının da forumdaki adaletli ve hakkaniyetli varlığını garanti altına alabilmek için her ay yapılan Default Trust seçimleri büyük önem arz etmektedir.



Your translation is way off, we can't expect you to study languages while you are busy destroying a forum with your nepotism clique and enjoying a lazy existence by milking 2-3k USD / month from the forum with your friends whilst repulsing thousands of well meaning members away from this place every month, so I'll help you out.

The correct English translation for your quote:

" As most of us know very well, Bitcointalk has become a place where a group we can qualify as 'salaried employees' are actively engaging in reputation destruction operations to prevent new valuable members from participating in lucrative activities like bounty and signature campaigns.

To preempt these completely disclosed and documented nepotism activities in the global forum, it is important that local section users also participate in the Default Trust elections every month to insure their just and fair existence on this forum. "


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May 10, 2020, 12:58:27 AM
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this is what i say:
nobody adds the person who added himself to the distrust list to the trust list
and yes, everyone sympathizes with the person who added him to the Truslist

Provably false. LoyceV made it easy to see: if the words "Trust List" are green then the inclusion/exclusion is mutual, if blue - only one side includes/excludes, and if red - one side includes and the other excludes. There are some red and many blue ones if you look around. Your list of inclusions is almost completely green with one exception.

Also that's not the same as your trust farming proposition in the OP. You literally offered reciprocal trust lists and trust ratings regardless of anything else. That's dangerously irresponsible to say the least and not something a DT1 member should be doing.

Your translation is way off

It's not my translation, it's Google and clearly labelled as such. Your version is still riddled with the same fallacies and doesn't change the meaning. You're still implying that fiddling with DT will give you a better shot at those lucrative bounties. Please attempt to deny that.
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this is what i say:
nobody adds the person who added himself to the distrust list to the trust list
and yes, everyone sympathizes with the person who added him to the Truslist

Provably false. LoyceV made it easy to see: if the words "Trust List" are green then the inclusion/exclusion is mutual, if blue - only one side includes/excludes, and if red - one side includes and the other excludes. There are some red and many blue ones if you look around. Your list of inclusions is almost completely green with one exception.

Also that's not the same as your trust farming proposition in the OP. You literally offered reciprocal trust lists and trust ratings regardless of anything else. That's dangerously irresponsible to say the least and not something a DT1 member should be doing.

Loycev? Who is Loycev? a member! like me and u!

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Loycev? Who is Loycev? a member! like me and u!

Ok. He's also the guy who made this: http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-02_Sat_05.02h/1003533.html

Try to read my post once again and maybe you'll get it but I'm not holding my breath.
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Loycev? Who is Loycev? a member! like me and u!

Ok. He's also the guy who made this: http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-02_Sat_05.02h/1003533.html

Try to read my post once again and maybe you'll get it but I'm not holding my breath.

I know he's the man who did it, but that doesn't give me the right to interfere. not authorized to make rules

As a result of the applications up to now, this system has become a trump card in someone's hands.

I say, add each other, let's build a big chain of trust, otherwise the system is doomed to stay that way

if we don't have the authority to create a trustlist, let's hand it over to Loycev and he'll prepare the lists

You added 39 mutual trusts in 63 (if i didn't count wrong-check please) %61.9

1 dooglus
2 qwk
3 Vod
4 Foxpup
5 philipma1957
6 Flying Hellfish
7 ibminer
8 yogg
9 TheQuin
10 hilariousandco
11 cryptodevil
12 whywefight
13 DaveF
14 owlcatz
15 tmfp
16 yahoo62278
17 sandy-is-fine
18 SyGambler
19 MaoChao
20 LoyceV
21 actmyname
22 The Pharmacist
23 DarkStar_
24 SFR10
25 TwitchySeal
26 bones261
27 TryNinja
28 eddie13
29 xtraelv
30 Steamtyme
31BitCryptex
32 Veleor
33 o_e_l_e_o
34 DdmrDdmr
35 Alex_Sr
36 morvillz7z
37 taikuri13
38 DireWolfM14
39 mikeywith

Loycev
LoyceV's choices were interesting 11 in 19 %57 mutual trust addition rate
1. dooglus
2. gmaxwell
3. Vod
4. SaltySpitoon
5. mprep

6. philipma1957
7. Cyrus
8. Stunna
9. guitarplinker
10. NLNico
11. Blazed
12. hilariousandco
13. cryptodevil
14. suchmoon
15. RHavar
16. The Pharmacist
17. DarkStar_
18. marlboroza
19. coinlocket$


@marlboroza >> I don't know why list deleted!


Anyway, if I add 3-5 multiple accounts to the trust list, the rates will be almost the same or add those that are in higher positions. Cheesy Grin non-mutual trustlist like this Roll Eyes


why is the person adding more?
because people choose to follow the general trend, He-She says "I have to do this because everybody did it"

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formula of change
profile> trust> trust settings> add the nick> update
I'm not saying "add me absolutely", add someone

Looks like, wolwoo is just trying to make users aware about using trust list to participate more around the activities here, and that is what most of the other prominent members are promoting right from the creation of the new DT system. Make your own custom Trust list !
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Loycev
LoyceV's choices were interesting 11 in 19 %57 mutual trust addition rate
1. dooglus
2. gmaxwell
3. Vod
4. SaltySpitoon
5. mprep

6. philipma1957
7. Cyrus
8. Stunna
9. guitarplinker
10. NLNico
11. Blazed
12. hilariousandco
13. cryptodevil
14. suchmoon
15. RHavar
16. The Pharmacist
17. DarkStar_
18. marlboroza
19. coinlocket$
If you drag me into your drama, at least make sure the data you're presenting is correct. I worked hard on adding BBCode for Bitcointalk on each page of my Trust list viewer. Use it, so you don't make silly mistakes in your color coding:
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Trust list for: LoyceV (Trust: +29 / =2 / -0) (DT1! (59) 5259 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-05-09_Sat_05.05h)
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LoyceV Trusts these users' judgement:
1. dooglus (Trust: +16 / =0 / -0) (217 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
2. gmaxwell (Trust: +15 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (22) 2611 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
3. Vod (Trust: +28 / =3 / -4) (DT1! (17) 1533 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
4. SaltySpitoon (Trust: +23 / =1 / -1) (1091 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
5. mprep (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (610 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
6. philipma1957 (Trust: +23 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (20) 1305 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
7. Cyrus (Trust: +12 / =0 / -0) (DT1! (23) 166 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
8. Stunna (Trust: +27 / =0 / -0) (154 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
9. guitarplinker (Trust: +9 / =0 / -0) (6 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
10. NLNico (Trust: +4 / =1 / -0) (260 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
11. Blazed (Trust: +60 / =1 / -0) (119 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
12. hilariousandco (Trust: +19 / =3 / -0) (DT1! (40) 781 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
13. cryptodevil (Trust: +9 / =0 / -1) (183 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
14. suchmoon (Trust: +14 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (37) 4112 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
15. RHavar (Trust: +6 / =0 / -0) (580 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
16. The Pharmacist (Trust: +26 / =2 / -0) (2493 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
17. DarkStar_ (Trust: +50 / =1 / -0) (DT1! (33) 1333 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
18. marlboroza (Trust: +13 / =1 / -0) (1480 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)
19. coinlocket$ (Trust: +10 / =0 / -0) (1219 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

Trust list: backscratchers: users agree, they trust or distrust each other.

Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.
I count 42% (8 out of 19) Trust list backscratchers.

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