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Economy => Reputation => Topic started by: marlboroza on May 25, 2020, 04:51:00 PM



Title: To all DT1 members, please exclude another abuser from DT system
Post by: marlboroza on May 25, 2020, 04:51:00 PM
Accounts in question: Zz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=318348), mhanbostanci (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=434984)

This user is trust abuser, manipulating default trust system, merit abuser, signature campaign cheater, giveaway cheater, liar, and...default trust member. Relevant posts:

3 Accounts Connected:

Zz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=318348), mhanbostanci (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=434984), altcoin_trader (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=559459),

Proof:

  • Zz posts the wallet address 19Aw9JN3ypHDrd9AA1LyYJjaTWHHGDhhDP on their profile page (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026162316/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=318348) and uses it in posts here: [1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160248/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587823.msg16091163) ( @yahoo62278 denys them entry (back in 2016 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027011147/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587823.msg16095817) - and is still banning Zz in 2019 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027010811/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188200.msg52861199))], [2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160248/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587823.msg16091163)], [3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160359/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2045388.msg20748810)], [4 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160248/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587823.msg16091163)], [5 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160359/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2045388.msg20748810)], [6 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160355/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=907271.msg16225903)], [7 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160403/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1545749.msg16261398)], [8 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160535/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.msg15807757)], [9 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1602465.msg16097790#msg16097790)], [10 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160520/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1595852.msg16026344)], [11 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027014357/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1420358.msg14779154)], [12 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160737/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1646868.msg16564689)], [13 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026160735/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1450807.msg15028344)],
  • mhanbostanci posts the wallet address 1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv on their profile page (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026162319/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=434984) and uses it in posts here: [A (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026161219/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=644220.msg13903511) (as quoted by @EFS )], [2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026161226/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=644220.msg13496523)], [3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027005550/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1564718.msg17534148)], [4 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027005722/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1212063.msg12718443)], [5 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027010110/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1776343.msg17820067)], [6 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027010309/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1749663.msg17803056)], [7 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027010412/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1368130.msg13920881)] [8 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026162058/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=644220.msg13496589)]to name but a few...
  • altcoin_trader posts the wallet add 1JZYPRKap4hTQm9dQQMWhWeivkSo5Y1iUT on their profile page (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026162332/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=559459) and uses it in posts here: [A (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026161219/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=644220.msg13903511)], [1 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027004813/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1220472.msg13040902) (Zz also posts)], [2 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027043404/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1362216.msg13863836)], [3 (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026161856/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=907271.msg13650307)],

Wallet [77c8711960 (https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/77c871196035420a/addresses)] contains just four wallet addresses:

Code:
1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv	0.00022383 	259	549263
19Aw9JN3ypHDrd9AA1LyYJjaTWHHGDhhDP 0.         83 467408
1GU2gN5s8ZWNjLto7JoMycMNGwpyPtzARr 0.         33 397713
1JZYPRKap4hTQm9dQQMWhWeivkSo5Y1iUT 0.         17 420332



In this thread: Yarışma: Bitcoin 2015'i Hangi Fiyattan Kapatır? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1239501.0) [Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027000657/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1239501.0)] posts # seven (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026161333/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1239501.msg12905693#msg12905693) and eight (https://web.archive.org/web/20191026162028/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1239501.msg12905732#msg12905732) both mhanbostanci and altcoin_trader post signed messages to compete to guess the price of BitCoin.

Quote
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
277$
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv
GyYb2nrqeRIZImovLB+Ok7HWqc/HjFGqeISmBBVQwN4iPWM0wmUSZjXpDkQsTgbYLjQTh0M8HU4np7QQjbcFVMw=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Code:
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
261$
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1JZYPRKap4hTQm9dQQMWhWeivkSo5Y1iUT
IPlxoKqq4WXqYCuSusJgxEOB4WsD1keCkl0+xFOlDeV/bJRzzKLlnUZ6+9xvB4zf0OCoDWy7LCnMlbkx1XxmxRk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

DanDan (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027002555/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=145569) goes on to win the prize in the thread started by cakir (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027002630/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=205338)...

(See also this thread: mhanbostanci & altcoin_trader (Split from: Yeni Çıkan Cryptolar, Fırsatlar) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1247502.0) ) [Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027003839/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1247502.0)]



In the thread Adettendir az da olsa ilk 10 kişiye 1mbtc , totalde 10 mbtc veriyorum... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1491012.0) [Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027013626/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1491012.0)] that @designerusa starts both Zz and mhanbostanci claim just two posts apart:

19Aw9JN3ypHDrd9AA1LyYJjaTWHHGDhhDP
Gönder kardeş :)
Teşekkürler.

1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv
Hayırlı olsun.



In this thread Member Üye Olmam Şerefine BTC Dağıtımı [ Dağıtım Yapıldı ] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1567626.0;all) [Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027014603/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1567626.0;all)] Zz and mhanbostanci both claim four posts apart: (as does DanDan )

19Aw9JN3ypHDrd9AA1LyYJjaTWHHGDhhDP

Hayırlı olsun.

hayırlı uğurlu olsun :)

1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv



In this thread Bayramınız mübarek olsun ey ahali (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614634.0) [Archive (https://web.archive.org/web/20191027043849/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1614634.0)] both mhanbostanci and Zz claim five posts apart.

Quote
Re: Bayramınız mübarek olsun ey ahali
12 September 2016, 18:24:39

Bayramınız mübarek olsun.
para veren altın bulsun Smiley
1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv

Quote
Re: Bayramınız mübarek olsun ey ahali
12 September 2016, 18:55:30
   
Bayramınız mübarek olsun.
19Aw9JN3ypHDrd9AA1LyYJjaTWHHGDhhDP



21 April 2014, 08:06:52 Date Registered:    Zz
06 February 2015, 18:34:52 Date Registered:    mhanbostanci
04 October 2015, 23:47:05 Date Registered:    altcoin_trader
11 March 2016, 07:36:12 Last Active:       altcoin_trader
25 October 2019, 03:12:42 Last Active:       Zz
Today at 01:38:01 Last Active:          mhanbostanci

Related Addresses:

  • Zz also has the wallet address 0xe011B678b2aD9bC8C39c1e5B7A9f32CCF7A300a4 on their profile page

Miscellaneous:

Multiple alts claiming from the same bounties & also from different bounties during the same time-frame.

I got another PM, I'm posting them here, because I want everything to be cristalclear.

those signatures belong to different wallets.
they just assume it can be the same wallet.
and you believe!


I wonder which "different wallet" does this:

https://i.imgur.com/MfCZmXJ.png

https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/cf3ea5bed78e14832d4e43665a607712c72e026edff0f256420e5e28c3c7defd

merit/giveaway/trust/default trust abuser

I also have 2 eyes bro, how did he abuse the default trust system?
Seems you don't, you have loycev's trust viewer so you can check inclusions from both accounts. Here you go:

For account mhanbostanci http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-16_Sat_05.03h/434984.html and for account ZZ http://loyce.club/trust/2020-05-16_Sat_05.03h/318348.html

Quote
mhanbostanci Trusts these users' judgement:
1. theymos
2. TECSHARE
3. peloso
4. EFS
5. goraset
6. teramit
7. MorpheWQ
8. Lydian
9. LoyceV
10. cabsav
11. ekiller
12. onurgozupek
13. bobita
14. Vispilio
15. wolwoo
16. Blacknavy
17. AlyattesLydia
18. PHI1618
19. gospodin






Zz Trusts these users' judgement:
1. EFS
2. goraset
3. teramit
4. MorpheWQ
5. Lydian
6. cabsav
7. ekiller
8. onurgozupek
9. bobita
10. Blacknavy
11. PHI1618
12. gospodin


And as for exclusions:
Quote
mhanbostanci Distrusts these users' judgement:
1. ~Foxpup
2. ~Lauda
3. ~Timelord2067
4. ~klaaas
5.  ~mindrust
6. ~owlcatz
7. ~Last of the V8s
8. ~termo$
9. ~nullius
10. ~JollyGood
11. ~GazetaBitcoin
12. ~rehberistan






Zz Distrusts these users' judgement:
1. ~Lauda
2. ~bobmarley650
3. ~termo$
4. ~rehberistan


June 07, 2016. mhanbostanci has tried to sell account (http://archive.is/RZzMr):

Quote
1 adet Hero member hesap (Seconds trade kampanyasında)
~

Quote
hesapla ilgili özet bilgi :
Activity: 770 (Hero Member)
Potential Activity: 770 (Potential Hero Member)
~
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1502215.msg15114155#msg15114155

I did some research about Hero member in Second trade's campaign and I have found not-his-alt account Zz (hero member, activity 714) posting few months earlier:

i want join and sig add
name: Zz
postcount: 1118
rank: Hero Member
bitcoin address: 19Aw9JN3ypHDrd9AA1LyYJjaTWHHGDhhDP
http://web.archive.org/web/20160420003345/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=907271.5140

https://i.imgur.com/RMmWq4q.png


altcoin_trader was once my nephew's account.
Zz  is a student I teach Linux system administration.
And, there is niece, of course:
When I banned the forum to my niece
There is probably a dog and cat as well.

This user belongs nowhere near DT system.


Title: Re: To all DT1 members, please exclude another abuser from DT system
Post by: marlboroza on May 25, 2020, 04:56:31 PM
reserved

TECSHARE and other trolls AKA peloso and cryptohunter and altsTM are not allowed to post here!


Title: Re: To all DT1 members, please exclude another abuser from DT system
Post by: mhanbostanci on May 25, 2020, 10:21:48 PM


I,m repeating.
Believing their own lies is a psychological condition.
I will pray to God for your recovery.
my nephew is not in the forum. Zz is not my nephew.

I should have done this long ago
https://i.imgur.com/J5YkbYQ.png




Title: Re: To all DT1 members, please exclude another abuser from DT system
Post by: marlboroza on May 26, 2020, 07:31:02 PM
DONE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust)

~marlboroza

Seems moderators don't want to remove your post, but I will tag you for lying and maliciously trying to move this topic into different direction, unlike you, I care about default trust system and I don't want abusers and abuser supporters in it, let this "DONE" serve as reference:

https://i.imgur.com/J5knJfH.png

@TECSHARE I am asking you again to leave this topic. You are not allowed to post here.


Title: Re: To all DT1 members, please exclude another abuser from DT system
Post by: nutildah on May 30, 2020, 11:23:21 AM
There's no more clearer cut evidence of BTC addresses belonging to the same person than through the transaction highlighted here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247998.msg54429250#msg54429250).

In addition to the above evidence, it looks like he was talking to himself while mhanbostanci was banned in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1200081.msg12602108#msg12602108).

Also caught doing it in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1247502).

Here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1567626.0) both mhanbostanci and Zz entered the same lottery.

While I don't have a problem with people having alt accounts, it isn't cool to use them to enter the same bounties, sig campaigns or giveaways/raffles, or even giving yourself loans... Since most of these instances happened years ago, I don't see the need for punitive punishment.

However, as pointed out there is a lot of overlap between the trust lists of these users and both higher ranking accounts are having some influence on DT selection, which is indeed trust abuse.

Pre-edit: I see that LoyceV just updated his weekly lists and the problem seems to have taken care of itself as all 3 users are now firmly excluded from DT.



Wonder why TS is trolling this thread...

9/7/2019 3:50:44 AM   TECSHARE (0) trusts mhanbostanci (2)
9/7/2019 10:13:59 AM   mhanbostanci (2) trusts TECSHARE (0)

Maybe this has something to do with it.