For DT1 members: mhanbostanci & alts

[Lauda]

The user mhanbostanci has left me the following rating:

mhanbostanci    2020-05-11   Reference   
The real reason for the negative feedback he gave me is that he is a Turkish enemy. In this regard, the flag was opened and the subject was discussed. zz and altcoin_trader are different people I know personally. This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret.
You are hostile to people you don't know.

I have tagged the user with the following before this has happened (therefore proving the above to be a retaliatory rating):

Lauda   2020-05-11 Reference   
3 Accounts Connected: Zz u=318348, mhanbostanci u=434984, altcoin_trader u=559459
Multiple alts claiming from the same bounties & also from different bounties during the same time-frame.

My reference is the discovery from Timelord2067:

3 Accounts Connected:

Zz, mhanbostanci, altcoin_trader,

Proof:

• Zz posts the wallet address 19Aw9JN3ypHDrd9AA1LyYJjaTWHHGDhhDP on their profile page and uses it in posts here: [1 ( @yahoo62278 denys them entry (back in 2016 - and is still banning Zz in 2019)], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13],
• mhanbostanci posts the wallet address 1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv on their profile page and uses it in posts here: [A (as quoted by @EFS )], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6], [7] [8]to name but a few...
• altcoin_trader posts the wallet add 1JZYPRKap4hTQm9dQQMWhWeivkSo5Y1iUT on their profile page and uses it in posts here: [A], [1 (Zz also posts)], [2], [3],

Wallet [77c8711960] contains just four wallet addresses:

Code:

1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv	0.00022383 	259	549263
19Aw9JN3ypHDrd9AA1LyYJjaTWHHGDhhDP	0.         	83	467408
1GU2gN5s8ZWNjLto7JoMycMNGwpyPtzARr	0.         	33	397713
1JZYPRKap4hTQm9dQQMWhWeivkSo5Y1iUT	0.         	17	420332

In this thread: Yarışma: Bitcoin 2015'i Hangi Fiyattan Kapatır? [Archive] posts # seven and eight both mhanbostanci and altcoin_trader post signed messages to compete to guess the price of BitCoin.

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
277$
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv
GyYb2nrqeRIZImovLB+Ok7HWqc/HjFGqeISmBBVQwN4iPWM0wmUSZjXpDkQsTgbYLjQTh0M8HU4np7QQjbcFVMw=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
261$
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1JZYPRKap4hTQm9dQQMWhWeivkSo5Y1iUT
IPlxoKqq4WXqYCuSusJgxEOB4WsD1keCkl0+xFOlDeV/bJRzzKLlnUZ6+9xvB4zf0OCoDWy7LCnMlbkx1XxmxRk=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

DanDan goes on to win the prize in the thread started by cakir...

(See also this thread: mhanbostanci & altcoin_trader (Split from: Yeni Çıkan Cryptolar, Fırsatlar) ) [Archive]


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Please click on the post to read the remainder if you are interested. Claims about their alt connection go back to 2015 with this thread in a trust rating on altcoin_trader.



I do not know how I missed that before. Not commenting on the linked thread from 2015, the wallet connection seems very solid. Opinions?

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[suchmoon]

I do not know how I missed that before. Not commenting on the linked thread from 2015, the wallet connection seems very solid. Opinions?

If the wallet doesn't belong to a shared service like an exchange (doesn't seem so) then the connection is solid. I haven't looked at the bounty abuse part of it.

Did mhanbostanci provide any excuse as to how "different people" used the same wallet?

[marlboroza]

If the wallet doesn't belong to a shared service like an exchange

There is signed message in that post, you know...I could probably check loyceV's trust viewer to see this user's trust inclusion and bpip.org for merit transactions:



Do I need to examine loycev's trust viewer?  
Edit: I countered both feedback on timelord's and lauda's profile for now and left few -ve, I hope this will be resolved within DT1 system, @lauda, can you edit topic with "for DT1 members:....."?

Of course, I am expecting retaliatory "you are racist" -ve  

Edit2: as for counter on timelord's profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239415.msg54442708#msg54442708

[suchmoon]

There is signed message in that post, you know...

LOL indeed.

And looks like the alt farm was busted a long time ago here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1247502.0

[Lauda]

There is signed message in that post, you know...

LOL indeed.

And looks like the alt farm was busted a long time ago here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1247502.0

Added that part too, an error on my side to snip out too much of the post.

[GazetaBitcoin]

The user mhanbostanci has left me the following rating:

mhanbostanci    2020-05-11   Reference   
The real reason for the negative feedback he gave me is that he is a Turkish enemy. In this regard, the flag was opened and the subject was discussed. zz and altcoin_trader are different people I know personally. This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret.
You are hostile to people you don't know.

Lauda, this crypto-era version of Vlad the Impaler, is now an official enemy of the baboons. If they will ever catch you they might impale you lol.

Being serious now, I see that things escalated a lot since wolwoo's revolutionary topic and I think we'll see more and more Turks involved in this war. Whatever their purpose is, I think none of them should have official positions on the forum anymore, no matter if we talk about being a mod on Turkish section, DT member or merit source.

[Lauda]

The user mhanbostanci has left me the following rating:

mhanbostanci    2020-05-11   Reference   
The real reason for the negative feedback he gave me is that he is a Turkish enemy. In this regard, the flag was opened and the subject was discussed. zz and altcoin_trader are different people I know personally. This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret.
You are hostile to people you don't know.

Lauda, this crypto-era version of Vlad the Impaler, is now an official enemy of the baboons. If they will ever catch you they might impale you lol.

Being serious now, I see that things escalated a lot since wolwoo's revolutionary topic and I think we'll see more and more Turks involved in this war. Whatever their purpose is, I think none of them should have official positions on the forum anymore, no matter if we talk about being a mod on Turkish section, DT member or merit source.

Ironic how all the claims of abuse always end up showing the true motives behind the accusers. To be called an abuser of trust, and then to get tagged by the same people for "racism".   Reminder: Turkey / Turkish people =/= race. The accounts mentioned in the OP mutually added themselves into DT2 via Vispilio and others.

[TheBeardedBaby]

Does mhanbostanci or the other accused came with explanation or anything, except this info they left in the negative feedback?
The signed message is pretty strong evidence, you can't go around.

I got a PM from mhanbostanci, quoting below:

I said I would say about this.
there is nothing to defend.
Do not comment without knowing the original thing.
zz and altcoin_trader are different people I know personally.  This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret.
You can query this situation from Turkish users you know.
also, this thread self moderated. therefore,
I can't write an answer.

I don't see anything stopping mhanbostanci from posteing an answer here.
I request Lauda to not moderate posts from the accused ones that are not off topic.

I got another PM, I'm posting them here, because I want everything to be cristalclear.

those signatures belong to different wallets.
they just assume it can be the same wallet.
and you believe!

Then mhanbostanci, please explain that link > https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/77c871196035420a/addresses
https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/77c871196035420a/addresses

[suchmoon]

Does mhanbostanci or the other accused came with explanation or anything, except this info they left in the negative feedback?
The signed message is pretty strong evidence, you can't go around.

In the Turkish thread from 2015 mhanbostanci claimed that one of those accounts belongs to a relative, they shared a computer, and accidentally posted from the relative's account. Unfortunately in some other thread mhanbostanci also pretended to not know the alleged relative and even attempted to do a lending deal with said relative. A classic busted sockpuppet story.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1247502

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206095

[marlboroza]

I got another PM, I'm posting them here, because I want everything to be cristalclear.

those signatures belong to different wallets.
they just assume it can be the same wallet.
and you believe!

I wonder which "different wallet" does this:



https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/cf3ea5bed78e14832d4e43665a607712c72e026edff0f256420e5e28c3c7defd

 
What is mhanbostanci still doing in DT, user is merit/giveaway/trust/default trust abuser and he is trying to convince people that blockchain proof is not solid one, which is malicious claim itself.

edit

Oh, more retaliations via trust:


edit 2 This address is snipped in quoted post, but timelord mentioned it:

#Join
Bitcointalk username: mhanbostanci
Telegram username: mhanbostanci
ETH address: 0xe011B678b2aD9bC8C39c1e5B7A9f32CCF7A300a4

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2838618.msg29226783#msg29226783

The same address is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=318348 , so eth and btc connection

[Lauda]

Does mhanbostanci or the other accused came with explanation or anything, except this info they left in the negative feedback?
The signed message is pretty strong evidence, you can't go around.
I got a PM from mhanbostanci, quoting below:

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I don't see anything stopping mhanbostanci from posteing an answer here.
I request Lauda to not moderate posts from the accused ones that are not off topic.

The accused members are free to post fully and whenever they want to. Self-mod is not for me to take away the power of the accused to defend themselves, but to protect myself from the usual trolls.

Reminder, all three accounts are apparently in DT2.

[TheBeardedBaby]

I would prefer to continue the conversation here instead of in PMs but... Let's try again to have a normal discussion.

those signatures belong to different wallets.
they just assume it can be the same wallet.
and you believe!

I don't beleive in words,I check myself and this is what I saw > https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/77c871196035420a/addresses

these pages try to associate bitcoin addresses that are traded between them. The information they provide is not precise. Transactions between those addresses does not indicate that those addresses are the same wallet.
they claim that these addresses are generated from the same wallet.
The way to prove that it is produced from the same private key is to run SHA256 in reverse. this is not possible.
lauda and her followers prefer to assume that they are the same wallet.


ignorance is bad.
The lie is the biggest sin.

[Lauda]

I would prefer to continue the conversation here instead of in PMs but... Let's try again to have a normal discussion.

The lie is the biggest sin.

Really, does he think he is the smart user around here and everyone else is stupid?

I wonder which "different wallet" does this:



https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/cf3ea5bed78e14832d4e43665a607712c72e026edff0f256420e5e28c3c7defd

[YOSHIE]

I do not know how I missed that before. Not commenting on the linked thread from 2015, the wallet connection seems very solid. Opinions?

There is no doubt between: altcoin_trader & mhanbostanci, they are one-person Alt accounts.
Transaction ever sent.

Archive: http://archive.is/wip/GbxHf
Archive: http://archive.is/wip/2n90a



TX; https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/c40a15b4226b52f48fe3233d95f5e489312f74f8fa35f1c31b65bf0fcd4970de

The address that both of them use.

altcoin_trader
1JZYPRKap4hTQm9dQQMWhWeivkSo5Y1iUT

mhanbostanci
1mhandh8J4uJx18sHhgeBJWZLKxMnuqGv

Nothing is 'not' solid, they are very accurate Alt Accounts.

[mhanbostanci]

Dear forum members,

I do not deny anything. I write openly.
I know these account holders.
altcoin_trader was once my nephew's account.
Zz  is a student I teach Linux system administration.
Everybody knows this in Turkish forum.

altcoin_trader
was once my nephew's account.
when I realized that this account is my nephew,
I forbade him to use the forum. (He was 13 years old at the time.)
This is known in the Turkish forum and it is no secret. You can query this situation from Turkish users you know.
my nephew did not use the account again. (Maybe it sold, I don't know.)

In a nutshell,
These accounts belong to different people I know.
these accounts are not my sub-accounts.

lauda and her gang may think they want.

yours sincerely,

mhanbostanci

[suchmoon]

when I realized that this account is my nephew,
I forbade him to use the forum. (He was 13 years old at the time.)

Did the nephew also use your Bitcoin wallet without your knowledge? And the Linux student too. Makes no sense.

[marlboroza]

altcoin_trader
was once my nephew's account.
when I realized that this account is my nephew,
I forbade him to use the forum. (He was 13 years old at the time.)

You forbid your nephew to use this forum? Wait, you forbid your nephew to make monez online? GTFO LOL!

Please scroll up and elaborate connected addresses from different wallets, I am in a good mood today and I want to hear more "dog ate my homework" excuses  

[mindrust]

I don't see anything stopping mhanbostanci from posteing an answer here.
I request Lauda to not moderate posts from the accused ones that are not off topic.

He has a point. I recently made the mistake of posting in a self moderated thread without knowing and It drove me nuts getting all my posts deleted.

I don't **usually** post in any self mod threads neither.

Tbh, theymos should remove that shit.

[marlboroza]

He has a point. [...]

The accused members are free to post fully and whenever they want to. Self-mod is not for me to take away the power of the accused to defend themselves, but to protect myself from the usual trolls.

[mindrust]

He has a point. [...]

The accused members are free to post fully and whenever they want to. Self-mod is not for me to take away the power of the accused to defend themselves, but to protect myself from the usual trolls.

Valid point.

Another thing attracted my attention.

Some of these guys keep telling that everybody in the Global forum and participate in the chipmixer campaign are multi accounters. This statement has been being pushed several times and in several topics. They keep telling it again and again yet of course can't provide a single evidence.

Yet... timelord, lauda and others keep busting these morons' alt accounts day and night.


Being half smart... Worse than being dumb.