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Title: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: Slow death on June 04, 2020, 12:31:13 PM
Yes, Faketoshi returns to attract attention to the crypto world:

‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication (https://cointelegraph.com/news/no-message-was-signed-craig-wright-refutes-tulip-trust-fabrication)

Craig Wright maintains that he alone has access to the ‘Satoshi’ Bitcoin addresses filed in court, despite a message apparently signed by 145 of the addresses calling him “a liar and a fraud”.

Wright says anyone that thinks his credibility is now in tatters as a result “doesn’t understand digital signatures at all”.

When we watch a movie, no matter how good the movie is, we always know that the movie will come to an end, we just wonder what the end of the movie will be like: "we are curious if the movie will have a good ending or not". In the case of Faketoshi I don't know if this story will ever end, I wonder if the real satoshi reads these news and how will the reaction of the real satoshi be?


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: mocacinno on June 04, 2020, 12:36:44 PM
I don't think the real satoshi will ever step in... If he was interested/alive/available he would have stepped in a long, long time ago.

That being said, i don't think there'll be an end to the story any time soon... Most people actually stop talking when they are proven wrong, a small group just tries to deny they were proven wrong, they threaten the person who proved them wrong, or they just ignore any proof...

I'm not really interested in CW, nor in the politics around these forks... Meh...

(Mocacinno shugs and walks away.........)


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: The Cryptovator on June 04, 2020, 12:40:06 PM
Some peoples are trying to draw attention by passing some unrealistic comments. Faketoshi is one of them and I never care what he said. No need too much drama to prove real satoshi if he is alive. The movie or story will never end, always someone will popup to draw attention. The only way to end story by ignoring them, let them prove with solid evidence and come on media. Simple question why they didn't proved themselves before claim to be satoshi and come on front with evidence? Because they aren't real satoshi and drama is just to draw attention from community.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: iRaMMuS34 on June 04, 2020, 12:49:29 PM
Some peoples are trying to draw attention by passing some unrealistic comments. Faketoshi is one of them and I never care what he said. No need too much drama to prove real satoshi if he is alive. The movie or story will never end, always someone will popup to draw attention. The only way to end story by ignoring them, let them prove with solid evidence and come on media. Simple question why they didn't proved themselves before claim to be satoshi and come on front with evidence? Because they aren't real satoshi and drama is just to draw attention from community.

You're right, but why do you pay so much attention to this then?


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: 20kevin20 on June 04, 2020, 01:04:43 PM
Won't be long before I'm getting allergic to this subject. CSW isn't Satoshi, it's a 99.9% accurate fact and with every new piece of information coming up we only get about 0.0001% closer to 100%. It's all for nothing, honestly.

This man is more than pathetic and a piece of poop - and the price he had to pay for all the forged documents and utter bullshit he spread was nothing compared to what he deserves.

Just put an end to this man's fame. Please.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: stompix on June 04, 2020, 01:11:03 PM
I don't think the real satoshi will ever step in... If he was interested/alive/available he would have stepped in a long, long time ago.

Same feeling here, he either doesn't want to or he can't for different reasons.
Seriously doubt we will see the real satoshi stepping in, and even if he does there will still be people who will claim he is not the real one and he obtained the keys from somebody, pretty normal reaction, as you can't prove it was yours from the start and somebody didn't give it to you. Neverending useless drama

As for the moron, trying to prove a nut is nuts seems to be well above faketoshi's cultist.





Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: Lucius on June 04, 2020, 01:17:37 PM
I don't think the real satoshi will ever step in... If he was interested/alive/available he would have stepped in a long, long time ago.

Even if that happened, would Faketoshi stop claiming that he was actually the real Satoshi? Well of course that wouldn’t happen, because people like CW never give up, even if faced with indisputable facts in court. For such people there is the term pathological liar, and I don't think there's much more to say about it.

If, on the other hand, I were to think in the direction of some conspiracy theory, then I might think that this whole show might be aimed at actually trying to provoke the real Satoshi to react to the lies being spread by the CW. I wouldn’t be surprised if this annoying worm actually works for some three letter agency that uses it as bait to try to catch the real Satoshi.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: Pffrt on June 04, 2020, 01:40:10 PM
If the real Satoshi had intention of step in, we would have seen him earlier. Within this 10 years, we have seen a lot of drama regarding the Satoshi. If he was interested, he would appear long back to throw some shits on the face of such drama creator faketoshi.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: Tipstar on June 04, 2020, 01:55:40 PM
I am just tired of hearing his lies. If I were the judge I would have already jailed him for contempt of court.
How can a man lie straight multiple of times and still get a media attention? He is not even the president of US.
The case is also venturing away from it's intention and getting too long. There should be a judgement soon and make him liable for the klemein estates loss.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: hv_ on June 04, 2020, 02:12:52 PM
I am just tired of hearing his lies. If I were the judge I would have already jailed him for contempt of court.
How can a man lie straight multiple of times and still get a media attention? He is not even the president of US.
The case is also venturing away from it's intention and getting too long. There should be a judgement soon and make him liable for the klemein estates loss.

so  Kleiman is Satoshi now ?  I see some other guys now on the helper list - but more to help Satoshi to hide

Id read some docs from the court - even such Ira produced - (accidently?)  forgot to redact important stuff

There is much more true than you might ever dreamed of

>> but quite funny how much desparation is there to 'sign' such a dumb msg - and stay ano ?


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: mk4 on June 04, 2020, 02:18:32 PM
A new Craig Wright thread! How convenient. Some crypto interviewer dude on YouTube interviewed Faketoshi just yesterday. The Full interview is like 1 and a half hour long, so here's the short clip. Listen clearly to what the heck CSW was saying: https://twitter.com/BitcoinMemeHub/status/1268366834287312897

If you guys are interested in the full 1hr 27min inteview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHBrodzl5qY


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: taufik123 on June 04, 2020, 02:51:56 PM
again and again, Doesn't this CSW stop to continue to deny when a fact is revealed.
I understand what he does is just to get more attention and become someone who looks influential to Bitcoin.
When the original Satoshi saw the behavior of CSW, of course he would laugh with all his behavior.
The original Satosi will never appear to the public just because of the excitement of the CSW and is also called a liar and swindler by the 145 addresses that have been signed.

Currently Just waiting for the end of all these fictitious stories, will there be a new sequel or the end.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: kryptqnick on June 04, 2020, 05:07:35 PM
Yes, Faketoshi returns to attract attention to the crypto world:

‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication (https://cointelegraph.com/news/no-message-was-signed-craig-wright-refutes-tulip-trust-fabrication)

Craig Wright maintains that he alone has access to the ‘Satoshi’ Bitcoin addresses filed in court, despite a message apparently signed by 145 of the addresses calling him “a liar and a fraud”.

Wright says anyone that thinks his credibility is now in tatters as a result “doesn’t understand digital signatures at all”.

When we watch a movie, no matter how good the movie is, we always know that the movie will come to an end, we just wonder what the end of the movie will be like: "we are curious if the movie will have a good ending or not". In the case of Faketoshi I don't know if this story will ever end, I wonder if the real satoshi reads these news and how will the reaction of the real satoshi be?
I don't understand what's he hoping for here, apart from attention. The message was signed, and people verified that. So either Craig is a liar like the message says and most of us already know, or Craig wrote that about himself signing the message because he doesn't want to share tons of bitcoins with the Kleiman family (this is how my friend who thinks Craig is Satoshi explained this). As for the real Satoshi, this person might've stepped in already by signing the message, but I don't think we should expect Satoshi to ever reveal the true identity just because some impostors appear now and then.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: agf on June 04, 2020, 06:39:33 PM
Won't be long before I'm getting allergic to this subject. CSW isn't Satoshi, it's a 99.9% accurate fact and with every new piece of information coming up we only get about 0.0001% closer to 100%. It's all for nothing, honestly.

This man is more than pathetic and a piece of poop - and the price he had to pay for all the forged documents and utter bullshit he spread was nothing compared to what he deserves.

Just put an end to this man's fame. Please.

Yeah I agree, I'm getting fatigue from seeing so much about him in the media and just generally speaking online. He's a fraud, a liar and an idiot, and the more we bring him up (which I know I'm doing now) the more he's pleased because he just wants to be notorious. He's making us all look stupid by being associated with him.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: SiNeReiNZzz on June 04, 2020, 07:12:27 PM
I wish for Satoshi he will never be exposed.
From that point on, he would no longer be able to live a "normal" life...

Many people want to see him dead!

After all, we are talking about extremely large sums of money and a danger to the business of very powerful people...


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: DeathAngel on June 04, 2020, 07:56:21 PM
This guy just doesn’t give up, does he?

;D

Sometimes in life you just have to admit defeat, take your ball & go home. It seems like we’re never going to be rid of this buffoon.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: snipie on June 04, 2020, 08:07:34 PM
When we watch a movie, no matter how good the movie is, we always know that the movie will come to an end, we just wonder what the end of the movie will be like: "we are curious if the movie will have a good ending or not". In the case of Faketoshi I don't know if this story will ever end, I wonder if the real satoshi reads these news and how will the reaction of the real satoshi be?
Nah Craig Fake News Wright will end trolling once he will launch "Bitcoin CW" also know as Craig Wright bullshit edition. Once it will hole-rocketing, he will end his trolling.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: electronicash on June 04, 2020, 08:26:56 PM

its not just him that claimed satoshi but what about the others why are they not in the news anymore? we still keep putting CSW on the online news even when he can't provide proof that he is Satoshi. issue about CSW could have died already and he receives no attention anymore. and so his lies will all be buried to the ground but somebody is really making him like he is the most important in crypto.

almost all of the people connected to satoshi to years ago are dead, except theymos i guess. now i'm not sure if theymos is willing to be interviewed by the media about satoshi nor about CSW but why is there no media even asking questions about satoshi to theymos?



Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: BitcoinFX on June 04, 2020, 09:31:39 PM
This guy just doesn’t give up, does he?

;D

Sometimes in life you just have to admit defeat, take your ball & go home. It seems like we’re never going to be rid of this buffoon.

"Currently the trial is scheduled for July 6, 2020. A default judgement might hit before that date, a delay (for example Corona virus related) might push that date further into the future."
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1237373396180250626

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESwIiihWsAU3Amr?format=jpg&name=large

...

" ... Interviewer: "Hey Craig, how do you explain the 145 addressed that signed "Craig is a fraud" last week ?"

Craig: " No message was signed, you can't sign anonymously - you have to have an identity to sign....key don't count..I gotta go...be" ... "

- https://twitter.com/BitcoinMemeHub/status/1268366834287312897

- https://youtu.be/PHBrodzl5qY?t=5103

...

Craig Wright says anyone that thinks his credibility is now in tatters “doesn’t understand digital signatures at all”
- https://twitter.com/Cointelegraph/status/1268395563042701312

‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
- https://cointelegraph.com/news/no-message-was-signed-craig-wright-refutes-tulip-trust-fabrication

 ::)

...

"Dear @Cointelegraph
I've updated the thumbnail art to your recent article. Kindly update the article with this on your website and social media channels.
Thanks,
BitcoinMemeHub"

- https://twitter.com/BitcoinMemeHub/status/1268404628019798016

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZpGzntU0AAvEgx?format=jpg&name=large

 :D

...

"... Get tomorr' on the phone ..."
- https://youtu.be/5JhKWFxLhKo?t=182

EDIT: 7th June 2020 ...

...snip...

"Currently the trial is scheduled for July 6, 2020. A default judgement might hit before that date, a delay (for example Corona virus related) might push that date further into the future."
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1237373396180250626

...snip...

Damn coronavirus ...

"CORONAVIRUS PUBLIC EMERGENCY

Chief Judge Moore’s Administrative Order 2020-33:

"All jury trials in the Southern District of Florida scheduled to begin on or after March 30, 2020, are continued until August 31, 2020."

So the counsels in Kleiman v Wright start rescheduling..."

- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1269044210285654016

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZyL9u-XgAUa-h-?format=jpg&name=medium

 ::)


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: BitcoinFX on June 04, 2020, 09:36:27 PM
I am just tired of hearing his lies. If I were the judge I would have already jailed him for contempt of court.
How can a man lie straight multiple of times and still get a media attention? He is not even the president of US.
The case is also venturing away from it's intention and getting too long. There should be a judgement soon and make him liable for the klemein estates loss.

so  Kleiman is Satoshi now ?  I see some other guys now on the helper list - but more to help Satoshi to hide

Id read some docs from the court - even such Ira produced - (accidently?)  forgot to redact important stuff

There is much more true than you might ever dreamed of

>> but quite funny how much desparation is there to 'sign' such a dumb msg - and stay ano ?

What? This msg ...

"Now, repeat all, very fast, please ..." - SWIM

 ;D

Craig Wright is NOT Satoshi and BSV is NOT Bitcoin.

you know what?  If you tell children NOT to do sth - what happens exactly?


Lol

grow up

Seems like you just missed that piece of information:
100 2009 addresses have all just signed the same message.

"Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud. He doesn't have the keys used to sign this message.

The Lightning Network is a significant achievement. However, we need to continue work on improving on-chain capacity.

Unfortunately, the solution is not to just change a constant in the code or to allow powerful participants to force out others.

We are all Satoshi"


https://paste.debian.net/plain/1148565


Does anyone know if any of these addresses are on his fanfic address list? I certainly hope so.

You're welcome.

Yes - welcom to ya funny group who accepts all sorts of fabrications to desperately derail from real evidence ?

na

thank ya - that was the plan

"Oh. My. God.

Not just one... but a freaking 145 addresses of the Tulip Trust list have been signed!
Love-you gesture

"Craig Steven Wright is a liar and a fraud."

Amen.


https://twitter.com/Zectro1/status/1264867307546800130 "

- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1264868284266094592

...

"Someone just signed a message calling Craig a fraud from 145 addresses Craig claimed were his in the Tulip Trust.

I verified the first few addresses on the list, and their signatures and presence on Craig's list checks out.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bsv/comments/gq8ao1/more_than_100_addresses_with_unmoved_bitcoin/ "


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY21r-2UEAAczVR?format=jpg&name=large

- https://twitter.com/Zectro1/status/1264867307546800130

...

GAME OVER BSV

GAME OVER BCH

Bitcoin = BTC

 ;D


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: Wexnident on June 05, 2020, 02:25:58 AM
When we watch a movie, no matter how good the movie is, we always know that the movie will come to an end, we just wonder what the end of the movie will be like: "we are curious if the movie will have a good ending or not". In the case of Faketoshi I don't know if this story will ever end, I wonder if the real satoshi reads these news and how will the reaction of the real satoshi be?
It was supposed to be already over tbh. The various facts and claims that counter-argue him being Satoshi was already all said and done, but this dude has the gall to continue on and on for how long is it now? A story ends when the two sides actually reach an ending. We were supposed to end with him being Faketoshi but this dude refuses to acknowledge it even with the numerous hilarious things that he's done that fails to show he's satoshi. It's like we're driving a car in a wall, not going forward because this dude is the driver.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: hatshepsut93 on June 05, 2020, 07:04:18 AM
It's quite entertaining to watch CWS make more and more outlandish claims, he already sounds like a flat-earther or an anti-vaxxer who denies reality that is obvious to everyone else. But I doubt this will end anytime soon, even if we imagine the best case scenario when the scammer gets sent to jail, the scam will continue for as long as there are morons who give him their money. It will all end only when he'll no longer have resources to support his shitcoin, hire shills, organize conferences, etc.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: hv_ on June 05, 2020, 07:08:19 AM
It's quite entertaining to watch CWS make more and more outlandish claims, he already sounds like a flat-earther or an anti-vaxxer who denies reality that is obvious to everyone else. But I doubt this will end anytime soon, even if we imagine the best case scenario when the scammer gets sent to jail, the scam will continue for as long as there are morons who give him their money. It will all end only when he'll no longer have resources to support his shitcoin, hire shills, organize conferences, etc.

Its not 'outlandish'

He speaks as a finacial auditor with legal background

Signing is a legal act - and make no sense without identity

Just that u can sign technically digital also txs doesn't make such legally compliant - cause many reasons



Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: Slow death on June 05, 2020, 09:28:27 AM
This guy just doesn’t give up, does he?

;D

Sometimes in life you just have to admit defeat, take your ball & go home. It seems like we’re never going to be rid of this buffoon.

the main point that I ask myself is that I assured him that the real satoshi will not show up and sue him or make faketoshi go through the biggest shame of his life? for faketoshi to be so insistent on this lie that he is sastoshi, faketoshi would have to know something about satoshi that we don't know

The only way to end story by ignoring them, let them prove with solid evidence and come on media.

it seems that it is difficult to ignore it because faketoshi always comes up with something surreal and the news channels love things like what faketoshi is doing

I am just tired of hearing his lies. If I were the judge I would have already jailed him for contempt of court.
How can a man lie straight multiple of times and still get a media attention? He is not even the president of US.

probably the judge must be thinking: "why did I go to judge this case? I can't take this anymore" and the judge's patience will be tested a lot because bitcoin is something new and he is facing a chronic liar who seems to have been possessed by at least more than 1000 liars from some another world. The guy can be very calm when he's lying, it looks like he believes his lie Is truth



Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: DooMAD on June 05, 2020, 01:18:39 PM
He speaks as a finacial auditor with legal background

Faketoshi speaks as a charlatan with a criminal background.


Signing is a legal act - and make no sense without identity

Just that u can sign technically digital also txs doesn't make such legally compliant - cause many reasons

You can trust the fallible and ever-changing concepts of "law" if you like.

I'm going to trust the comparatively indisputable laws of physics and mathematics. 

Mathematics confirm Wright is a fraud.  No court of law on the face of the planet is going to convince me otherwise.  The numbers don't lie.  That's Faketoshi's speciality.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: Fundamentals Of on June 05, 2020, 01:36:19 PM
It is surprising how he denies even this.

It is about time for CSW topics and discussions to end once and for all. This is pure madness.


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: BitcoinFX on June 07, 2020, 09:37:31 AM
...snip...

"Currently the trial is scheduled for July 6, 2020. A default judgement might hit before that date, a delay (for example Corona virus related) might push that date further into the future."
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1237373396180250626

...snip...

Damn coronavirus ...

"CORONAVIRUS PUBLIC EMERGENCY

Chief Judge Moore’s Administrative Order 2020-33:

"All jury trials in the Southern District of Florida scheduled to begin on or after March 30, 2020, are continued until August 31, 2020."

So the counsels in Kleiman v Wright start rescheduling..."

- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1269044210285654016

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZyL9u-XgAUa-h-?format=jpg&name=medium

 ::)


Title: Re: ‘No Message Was Signed’: Craig Wright Refutes Tulip Trust Fabrication
Post by: DooMAD on June 07, 2020, 11:58:17 AM
"Currently the trial is scheduled for July 6, 2020. A default judgement might hit before that date, a delay (for example Corona virus related) might push that date further into the future."
- https://twitter.com/MyLegacyKit/status/1237373396180250626

It's just more time for Faketoshi to dig himself a deeper hole.  The longer it drags on for, the greater the quantity of perjury he'll be guilty of, since he just can't keep his big dumb mouth shut.  Another day, another lie to make up.