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I think it's time for bounty hunters to start claiming their right on this forum, I'm talking about bounties that wants hundreds to thousands participants on their spreadsheet but plan to pay bounty hunters 5$ each for their 8month work, this is getting more ridiculous every day, IQ cash bounty is over and with the current price per token you will be lucky to earn 10$ to 20$, if no one is ready to stand by me I will stand for myself, what I want is

Fixed bounty allocation or
Limited bounty participants

We can't keep helping new projects for pennies, we should take actions

We are are group of people who absolutely ignore the campaign that does not guarantee a predictable reward. I may have joined a few in past but for last two years, I haven't joined any campaign that does not limit the number of users or guarantee a fixed price of token that could be precalculated. They might be a difficult to find but there are plenty of them.

I understand your concern but there are so many bounty hunters compare to new projects, we cannot compare it to the year 2017 where there are as lot of projects and less bounty hunters, scammers also contributed to the demise of bounty hunters, because of to many scam projects, we now have less projects, developers prefer to do private sales than crowdfunding.

You are right, just like Ludena protocol bounty that you are currently promoting, some bounty managers still listen to their fellow bounty hunters when many people are joining, some of ARCS campaigns are closed due to many people joining but still it's better to make bounty managers realize that limited participants is better, most expecially now that we have too many hunters on this forum

I'm with you, we have too many bounty hunters on this forum now so the best solution is using limited participants, if BMs aren't ready to comply we should make them see reasons, someone talked to bubbalex about Cartesi campaign which already had low allocation and he (bubbalex) fulfilled their wishes

What rights? I think your mistaken abouy this forum. This is not a place to purposely earn money. This bounty campaign is just only a perks of having discussion here. If you are gonna complain about this then better stop doing bounty and why not try to find a real job that pays off real money.

Its not forum responsibility to fulfill the lack of those projects on paying your works. Why do you asking help at all? I dont think theymos or any admin here would listen to this. They will read but this topic will be ignored cause bounty is not part of priority here on forum.

As far as I'm consign this is something bounty hunters can talk about on this forum because OP is not asking this forum to pin point projects that aren't scam for bounty hunters, making projects or bounty managers see reason that limited allocation is better is no crime  >:(

Why won't you talk this way since you are wearing best change signature that pays with top coins like ethereum or bitcoin, bounty hunters have the right to stand for their rights, they have the right to nail a bad project or bad bounty managers too, what bounty hunters don't have a right on is asking moderators to pick reliable projects for them, new projects are risky and this post is not about the risk but about too many participants which results in too low payments for bounty hunters, try to understand

I am a bounty hunter too, we cannot expect good results to every bounties we are joining. Infact joining this forum is free. So to avoid getting $5 for the 3months work. Examine the bounty, do not join an over crowded bounty. Checkout their bounty allocation, it must be 3% to 5% of their ICO.

I understand the situation completely. Ive been there too, what Im saying is we have the rights to talk and discuss here about our opinion on campaign, but like what you said, moderators have different job than simply pick a good bounty for you. They have task more important than to monitor campaigns for users. Its on you which campaign to pick. If your tired of doing altcoin campaigns then shift to btc paid campaigns, but the chance will be hard due to competition. So I suggest be patience when finding and dealing with altcoins. No matter what we do the process will never improve for some new projects.

This isn't a very good point mate, you said to avoid not getting 5$ for your hardwork it's better to look how many bounty hunters have already join the campaign, well haven't you seen whereby you join a bounty campaign with low participants and after a week or two the number increase marginally???? Your point doesn't count

Not a bad something to hope for but the solution is on the bounty manager that's in charge of the projects we are promoting, some bounty managers don't care what you are going to get, for them if you don't like you should leave but we have few ones who listen to complains and make amend, it's definitely something worth fighting for

You're obviously standing alone as the forum has no interest in moderating signature campaign. Before you, many has tried but failed simple because the administrators of the forum doesn't want to showcase the forum as a platform where you're obligated to gaining instead the additional earning feature should be seen by its members as a privilege which it's since no one is entitled to earning.

The easiest protest you and other bounty hunters can do is to stop patronizing these worthless projects that pops up daily to leverage on your willingness to advertise anything you see for pocket change. They use the hunters like slaves and only pay them peanut if they want to look legit in other to avoid scam accusation and soul their reputation then blamed it in the market.

Build on your account and you'll be opportuned to join a bitcoin paying campaign which you're likely to recieve a weekly pay of what you should have received in the duration of your stay in those bounties you speak off.

What often happens is that the estimated price of tokens/coins when the bounty is running is always inappropriate so it makes the bounty hunter complain. the manager is very influential in managing the bounty to success and the hunter does not complain because it is in accordance with what is done. Managers should limit bounty hunters and filter only those that meet the fastest requirements or those with quality may participate. so of course the project wants, the right promotion and directed to investors. IMO

There are several options available and you should choose the one that you think suits you.
In my experience, joining a fixed reward campaign is low risk but you can't aspect more from it and you weekly rewards are much lower.
But when you go on stake and participants based campaign, you can hit a much better reward if the number of participants are low and the rewards are high as well the project turns to be a legit one.

I do agree with it. The decision depends on the team and they can't dictate them all. There must be cooperation between the hunters and the team.

We have no choice as the team is a party who has been holding the main key. So many times I have seen a lot of similar threads like this.

having many advertiser will help the project to get their target and have many investors invest, thats why they prefered having many participants.

If you really want to stand by it don't join in a bounty  that you see many participants already join.

Almost in all comments, I have read something that is true, so maybe let's summarize:

- of course, this is a great thing if OP would be able to unite enough bounty hunters to have the power to influence bounty campaigns or even the forum (why not if it could benefit everybody?), but TBH I have seen many attempts already made by more reputable members and nobody succeeded so far because bounty hunters are mostly selfish dudes  ;),

- everybody should do all that possible to evaluate, do the proper research of the bounty campaign he wants to join, this should be well-thought decision because you will be working at least 3 months for them and it is wise to choose the best one, there are many threads already published on this topic, so I will not repeat, just try to find them,

- don't complain only, of course, there is a lot of scams and bad managers out there, but also there are a lot of spammers and bad bounty hunters who still think it is "easy money", but we all know that this is for a long time, not the case anymore. One has to be active and write really good content to get a spot in one of the better-paid campaigns. Sometimes even this isn't enough and you will have to get the Hero rank or to be between 100 most merited to even think about a chance to get a spot there.

- moderators will never evaluate bounty campaigns or forum administrators, they are here not for this reason. Of course, they can help with scams or problems with CM, but only if they wish to.

Low quality, spam, scam this is what is killing bounties, we all know that only well thought and well-managed bounty campaigns with quality writers will give good results. Nobody will pump a few hundred thousand dollars in a campaign that does not bring any results, that could be investors for ICO or traffic for a casino website. Only scammy projects will offer you millions in useless and worthless tokens to scam investors because they know from the start that nobody will be paid. Everything has to be taken with a grain of salt.
 
It was like this, it is like this and in my opinion, it will stay like this. Nothing will change, it can be only worst and one day there will be only a couple of places for the best once.

TBH bounty hunters don't care, the moment you said you won't join a bounty because of too many participants or lack of limited participants rules from bounty manager many will still join the bounty, this will be so effective if bounty managers can become one but .........

Yes, but not everyone wants to listen to complaints from bounty participants even though we give better advice to everyone, and on average the project team and manager only carry out the initial rules that have been made without making changes for the better.

sighs you are right, but is not the fault of the manager they shared what they have to participant, what i see is that they are many participant. in the first round they have over 600 participant in each campaign compared to the reward have. but considering the second round campaign they have 250 plus as participant in each participant which will somehow makes the rewards little bit meaningful.
but the first round reward is too small.

That is why on my own way criteria in joining campaign in the bounty, as long as it is one of the potential and legit project.
I am much preferable for the participants who are listed below 100 participants because once their total number of bounty hunters
is more than 100 I know the rewards most of the time is just a bit of token only for each hunters. That will depend too for each rank of the
participants also.

Does anyone have a real-time calculator for each stake of IQ cash? I think the stake will be variety since each IQ cash bounty has a different allocation fund. 20% for each Hacking Campaign, Blogs/Video, Signature Campaign, and - 10% for Twitter, 10% for Facebook and only 5%  for Telegram.

Don't mind the hunters who don't care about this, maybe they still think their time is worthless, so they don't care about things like this, so look at the people who still care and support them so that there can be a change in the direction better, because things like this are also for the sake of mutual comfort.

It has always been difficult to assert their rights by bounty hunters. Indeed, participation in ICO bounty campaigns is not yet regulated by any normative acts. We only have the right to choose whether to join the campaign or not. However, if we see that our rights are being violated - unrealistically low pay, additional requirements are put forward that clearly do not correspond to the nature of the work we are doing, you can create a separate topic, website or something else where to discuss these problems and agree not to participate in certain projects ICO It’s okay even if some bounty hunters join in anyway. The effect will be all the same.

You can express whatever you think is right for your judgement but it can't assure you that there would be changes that will happen since you mentioned that the campaign was already ended. It's all in the hands of the team who held the bounty and with how the project will proceed.

Joining this forum ain't assure you to be compensated it's just an additional rewards if you got lucky participating while learning more about this industry.

You are right and even if the bounty thread has an accusations of being a scam or whatever negatives issues it has bounty hunters still joining most specially newbies who do not care anything. And having fixed allocations for bounty participants don't guarantee hunters a profitable rewards cause it would still depends on the price value of the tokens.

You have a good points of view there and i understand your prostration about the bounty campaigns right now. But campaign managers and there teams want more participants as many as they could to help them spread there campaign to any social media platforms and forums. Most of them really dont care to bounty hunters if they earn 1$ for 8 months as long as there campaign is spread properly and earn a good reputation.

You have stated good reasons, very good reasons, but the fact remains that you or any other bounty participants do not lay down the rules of any campaign.
You can only suggest words, advices to bounty managers.

And for every bounty manager, there is a need to understand that the more the crowd, the less the quality of the campaigns, because it will end up being spammish across different social media outlet.

Lesser participants, leads to quality work done, because you get to track and ensure non spammy post.

You can only join bounties you feel like you have higher chances of earning more.

A few days ago I had calculated the IQ-Cash reward for the first round, and I saw the amount of the reward was very small and everyone seemed to be working in vain on the IQ-Cash campaign, because I personally also felt disappointed with the reward they gave in first round.

You have the right to complain or stop ar remove yourself as a bounty participants but you cAn’t force bounty managers and there teams to limit or put a higher amount for all bounty hunters because they mostly love a very crowded campaign to help them find investors.

The talking of this United only be successful in dream but if the reality is not impossible but very difficult to unite in one place. That would be required a proper platform here in the internet. Where every bounty hunters need to register and everybody should obey the admin.

Yes, I support the suggestions your have made above by fixing bounty allocation or limiting bounty participants because this will go a long way of giving value to bounty hunter's efforts. Project managers and bounty hunters are supposed to be partners in progress

First of all, not all of that 1000 bounty hunters are owner of one account.
I do believe some of them are using alt accounts in different bounties as long as they don't break a rule.

I say don't join them if you don't feel any profits coming out at a long span of helping them to advertise their campaign.
Just join those who you think is profitable.
The problem is some members still do join any ICO out there. They don't pick anymore.
1 facebook account, 1 twitter account joining 100 bounties.

You are right, right now the constraints of the project that pays are the small allocations and so many participants. so we will only see a little value that we will receive.

How hard to restrict the number of participants once it crosses a certain threshold that each stake becomes unprofitable compared to the effort waste? Not that hard right so why don't they just cut off or have a limit on it?

I feel lucky that i am not working in 2nd round of IQ.cash bounty. I hard too much in round 1 to promote this bounty but after round 1 when i calculate i was fully upset for my labor. Actually you are right that maximum campaign now doing same thing. After end of bounty we may not get tokens or got that kind of tokens is 10$ price. This is very panic situations for us. Yes i think limited bounty participants can be solutions here as fixed bounty allocation will not be accepted from team because of market situation.

thanks.

That's the problem now a days, previously it used to be pretty less number of participants in a bounty campaign which ultimately lead to much higher returns per campaign and as the popularity grew to participate in bounty campaigns the reward per stake shrinked and now people are getting pennies for a month of work. You should try participating in campaigns which have a limit as you proposed but the fixed bounty allocation in USD won't be feasible for the project owners.

Yes, what you said is very true, and I saw clearly the allocation of tokens in the first round was not much, but at that time I also did not have time to join because I was still bound by other projects, only when I saw the tokens that had been added to the the first round, I also felt sad even though I did not join the round, because the participants only got coins.

This is true. It's time for bounty hunters to speak out for their rights, we need justice and regulations that truly protect our rights.

Bounty managers, especially those who come from the project themselves, treat us arbitrarily, change the rules and make it difficult for us to get paid from work done.

This is a job. All must work hard to find solutions to those who commit fraud. I don't think KYC is right for cryptocurrency.

What we need as bounty hunters are justice rights, we work, and they must pay it. Bounty hunters are always victims and are always blamed when the project experiences a dump.

those are some of the risks that bounty hunters must face right now. maybe there used to be an aerys manager who always set limits on participants who could join in every campaign he held. but now there aren't many managers who make rules like that.

The bounty managers have their own decision for this problem. The fact that if the managers will be putting the purpose of the bounty campaign as the main aim and that needs a lot of promoters.

That's a good suggestion but we know that the reality is too far from your suggestion to be considered by the managers.

I support this statement. however, I think it all depends on the developer's strategy. it's not just an individual problem, and I think everything is very clear in the rules and information provided before supporting a project from a bounty.
even IQ.Cash, I do not blame when getting paid that is not much, because it is a risk when I see that this bounty has no participant limits. however, a project only wants the project to be known and attracts investors. so I think they need as many volunteers as possible. Well, that might be the reason why they don't limit participants.

It is not going to work, in order to pull off something like this you will need to create something like a syndicate and truth to be told most bounty hunters just want to do their own thing and earn a few dollars with their efforts, I know that the situation that we are seeing in the market is completely unfair to them but there is nothing you can do to change it, the huge number of scams and how easy it is to become bounty hunter suppress greatly the amount of profits that you could get.

Sad to say but the thing is it will be hard for the bounty hunters to be united for that matter unless the developer itself will dive into that idea or the bounty manager is the one who will be or have that rules already like bountyhive.

I already give suggestions there must be a telegram channel or BTT group where we can ask from the project which pays in pennies to hunters for there hard works over months and especially the project which goes live in the market but did not want to pay the hunters of their hard work rewards in term of tokens.

the manager should have the rules themselves. The developer must make additional rules, but regarding bounty hunter, I think the bounty manager is more entitled to make the regulation. there used to be managers who had the same rules for all projects held. such as the limited number of participants and it does make participants get a fairly decent payment.

I know where that emotions coming from. I am once a bounty hunter that experienced to join and participate one bounty for 3 months and  got $25-$30 I guess. Thats for three months. I never complained even they made the reward payments always delay because I know that the project I've joined can possibly be a success or not.
 
  You can look for a project's value before joining. Even you receive high rewards or huge allocation of token, if that token will cost no value then it will be useless

If there was unity among the bounty hunters, then a lot would have been achieved. But the problem is that there are too many of them around, and some of the bounty hunters (especially the inexperienced ones) are so desperate that they will agree to whatever terms and conditions, no matter how much exploitative they may be. So I don't think that unity can be achieved.. but bounty hunters can create groups to support each other.

Keep action, but nobody really cares about it. The situation is now bad for both sides and even that, bounty hunters will promote ICO projects even for less money, so you can´t be the one who will dictate the terms.  ;)

in fact in recent times the rewards of the various bounty campaigns have been ridiculous or even unpaid all the bounty hunters present here on the forum should gather in an association and not accept jobs under a certain minimum limit is absurd to work for months for a profit of a few tens of euros

The value of the tokens is what matters, do some calculations on the whole allocation first before joining any bounty campaign, many bounty hunters do research on the project and missed doing research on the token worth and bounty allocation Worth.

You are right. I totally agree with you on this and I am with you. So far no policy or appropriate authority has been created to protect the rights of bounty hunters. Many projects run away without honoring the bounty hunters.

I see few bounty managers are already implementing it with their campaigns. The latest examples are BAL, Sheng World, and SPYCE, ludena protocol.
Having said so, it is the sole decision of the project team to have such a condition of limited participation.
If any project is having a $10K budget, with limited participants they are still spending $10K but the project reach will be limited than having unlimited participation. Within the same budget, if the project is reaching to more users or investors, then this is the way project wants to spend its budget. So from their perspective, it's right.
What we can do from our side is to get upgrade ourselves to stand out among all other participants and by joining more campaigns and so on.

IQ cash yeah i hear that, when i check it, i leave that project because the time is limit.
i don't know how about it but i know what you feel.
all bounty hunter think like you and want to get nice paid but that is not real.

yeah we have to change this rules about bounty campain.

This is point right now no one can do any thing for this because this forum is only for link nothing else developers using many other methods as well and they are doing this all for their own sack no one care about bounty hunters and we cannot do any good and proper action against them.

I have now decided to be spending much of my time on trading and make some cool dollars rather than work for a project and pay peanut. Spend your time with profitable trades, do bounty at your leisure, when there is no leisure continue your core job.

I also think about the exact same thing as you have said above, to be honest I strongly agree on the issue of bounty (Fixed bounty allocation or
Limited bounty participants). if gift managers hear this complaint and can reconsider then the bounty hunter deserves to get the same reward again.

Unfortunately, this can only work if we have a group where all hunters can gather together, share ideas and agree on a united front. This is going to be difficult since everyone out there is fighting for their personal and often times, selfish interest. Some won't agree on this and will simply go about their normal way of doing things, making it almost impossible for others to have a say as to how they will operate going forward.

Actually limited bounty participate is better instead rewards pool.
If there was Fixed bounty allocation then lots of members do participate everyday, so after end of the bounty then hunter will receive 1$-2$. Otherwise limited participate never entry duplicate member and comfortable good profits everyone'' who are accept in limited bounty.

Limited bounty participants is way better than fixed rewards and obviously it is going to give fixed amount when a bounty has limited participants and capped at it.And also expecting the rewards in bitcoin will be a good choice so all hunters have to get united and make demand for yourselves.

But in reality it is not going to happen, sadly.

That is a risk that should have been realized from the start, no one can guarantee you to get big profits only from the bounty because even events like this I feel have been around for a long time and not only now. What's more, you promote the project when it's not in the crypto season but at least you still receive tokens by having a sale price I think that's good because it could be that holding it will be good in the future or more precisely when the crypto season returns, because even there is something worse than that where after a few months they worked but no tokens were even received by the participants and at least I experienced something bad like that in the past.

This is everyone's hope that bounty campaign should only have limited bounty participants for them to get higher rewards once a legit campaign is over. But this is not the scenario right now. We have to be more careful in joining bounty projects as scammed projects are flooding rapidly in the market. DYOR could be very helpful not to fall again in scammed projects.

You are right, there should be a minimum fixed reward amount for each task performed just like we get in real life jobs, it is really rediculous and unethical when these projects ask us to work daily, do our tasks daily with daily reports and after months of work they send us pennies, this should never be acceptable there should be minimum amount for each task otherwise it is not worth to participate or if a project has limited budget they should also limit the number of participants per campaign so that everyone ends up with decent reward for their time and efforts.

It is true that I participated in many bounties but only paid a few dollars, it was frustrating but that's the reality. And I support limiting
the number of participants to bounties, so bounty hunters can be paid more properly. Hopefully the new projects developers and bounty
managers hear this, I'm sure if Limited bounty participants are implemented signature campaigns can be of higher quality.

Before joining a bounty campaign, you as a bounty hunter is expected to read about the bounty details and distribution. Each bounty campaign always state out the total amount of tokens they will distributing in percentage to each campaign you joined. With the percentage you'll be able to know what will be given to the campaign you joined. Most importantly try and find out how long it will last and their exchange rate. With that you'll be able to know what your reward would be at the end of the bounty campaign

indeed currently there is no bounty campaign that can provide large allocations but you should be grateful if there are still bounty campaigns that can still provide some money because it is very difficult to find money from a bounty campaign, at least we all should be able to try to take advantage of the bounty campaign or airdrop.

What actions you are going to propose :P. No one is forcing anyone to promote anything here and if you want to add a signature or promote a project then you are free to do so and that is not a promise that they will pay you and it is the risk you take if you are hunting down bounties. Look for good projects where you are planning to invest and then consider this as a bonus and everything will be fine rather than thinking of this as a gold mine to make money :P.

Me too. I just think to get more chance to earn more money from the market and i was using bounty as a side job only and i personally putting more effort into the trade caused by that gives more guarantee to get profita rather than bounty.

problems like this can indeed be overcome by limiting participants. however, as much as whatever the allocation, but if the participants are not limited, it will only make everyone get a small fee. it's just that there is no compulsion in supporting a project through bounties, so I don't think we can blame a project on things like this. however, it is natural that a good project has the support of many people.

Yet another bounty hunters suggestion aim to get more money. Your suggestion is oppositing from the developers/team project goals, because they don't want to limited the bounty participants for get more traffic/promoters. Most campaign have limited participants if the project is succesful, popular and pay with valuable coin (e.g. BTC, ETH).

OP, since you're think participate in bounty campaign is not worth it and wasting your times. I suggest you to find a real job in your country or become freelancer on many online jobs platform (e.g. Upwork).

but didnt they fix the pay before they proceed on thier bounty ? i thought the payout structure was based on stakes and stake amount will also be based on your forum level .  also no matter how they fix the payment , that still not guarantee that you will get your desired amount based on your calculations because price do fluctuates too . about the limited participants ,this does not related to thier payment because even if they limit thier participant they can still be able to provide same payment . so what else do you want to know ?

You should protect yourself, conduct research and evaluate campaigns your way. If they have too little budget or too many participants, you can leave it. IQ cash is a good project so they have attracted a lot of participants. That is good for their project

I definitely agree with this. Since bounty campaign now isn't profitable as three years ago, i think there should be a limitation od participants in order to have a good reward in this bounty forum. Past bounties has only less participants such that they have a good value with their rewards.

It all depends on the decision of the bounty manager and the project. And I believe that they will not want to limit the participants because it makes their projects less likely to receive attention and it is difficult for their projects to succeed. And they cannot raise their budgets because, like you said, the market is not profitable like it was three years ago

The value will surely fluctuates once the rewards being distributed, the early birds will liquidate the share stakes and
if there are no real supports expect that it will fall hugely.
In terms of limiting participants it's another discussions and different opinions since each developers and BM have
their own views reaching more potential investors.

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Most of the time bounty hunters who experienced this kind of situations simply move forget about it and move to another
project, do more deeper research before participating.

How about Bounty hunters avoid such Bounties.
If you see an overcrowded Bounty, the best you can do is just avoid it.

Instead of doing free marketing for projects here and there.
Also, chat up Bounty admins and suggest ways to make Bounties better

Exactly if that bounty had too many participants. You should avoid it and participate in other bounty, it all depends on your decision and no one can give specific rules in this forum. The opportunity is for everyone and it's very fair

A bounty hunter is expected to make through research part of which by trying to avoid bounties with many participants with a small budget of course such bounties will pay less at the end of their promotion however a lot of newbies never bothered they kept on joining as many bounties as they can to ensure that at least they will earn as much as they can not minding how worthless some of tokens will priced when listed in an exchange.

As for the bounty listed in the exchanges, I think they should limit the participants to make it possible for the bounty hunters to get a good amount of money from the campaign. I recently saw the IQ cash campaign, they listed at major exchanges and made bounty. But their budget is too low and there are so many participants, eventually each person only receives 2-3 $ for 1 month of work

All of the decisions will be discussed by the team, arcs has been closing the form for new registrant caused by the dev has been discussing with the manager to do that. If the team didn't wanna do that and participants can do nothing for that. What the participants can to do to follow all of the rules that have already made

Definitely I stand with you fully on this, Bounty Managers should reduce participants so that at the end of the day people will see good results. Ludena campaign managed by Bounty detectives has limited number of participants. Next is for the coins to be listed in a good exchange for good return Value

With the long duration of time to complete a project it is actually not easy for a bounty hunter and we always hope that the team who manages the project can appreciate our hard work and can pay the time we have struggle, and many projects that have disappointed us, and as you said we should take action.

We have already seen a hundred times how everyone is dissatisfied with the conditions that projects provide. but the fact is that the project sets its terms and conditions and we can agree to participate or do not participate, but the biggest part of people agree and spend their time on poor projects and a small reward

You can't even know it's profitable or not while the campaign still ongoing. You can know it once it entered market and you sold all your token, maybe it takes months or years or even you don't get paid anything from altcoin bounty nowadays. If people already know whether the campaign is profitable or not, there won't be any person who yelling they don't get paid or scammed on scam accusation

The current project is very different compared to 2017-2018 where there are fewer projects and there are more bounty hunters, so we have to adjust the conditions and situations that occur with bounty hunters so far.

It's easier to suggest ways to make bounty promotions better but that is if the bounty manager is ready to learn, if the bounty manager said no then it's no, nothing can change that, if a bounty program is not satisfying you enough just find another

It's better to just find your taste, not all bounties will be able to use limited participants or fixed tokens, all you can do if find what suits you, some bounty managers can be so stubborn that your reasons won't be good enough for them, in this case nothing can change it

If you strictly adhere to the rules, then I don't think that the bounty campaign manager can deny you the reward using some flimsy excuses. But in some cases, they may change the rules when the campaign is about to end. Such scams happen all the time with bounties. In such cases, you can protest against it. If they refuse to roll back the changes, then you need to go for arbitration.

You say you are standing united but at the same time whenever there is a bounty where some project gives out 10 cents for 10000 people you still all fill that bounty. I mean sure stand together and ask for better bounties but at the same time unless you start to not really show any attention to bad ones, how are you going to get their attention?

I know right now if I start a project I can just give pennies on the dollar, hell just create some fake coin myself and make you work for it as well, yet there will be thousands of people that will apply from all over the internet if I do that. So, why do you think project owners who knows this will suddenly start listening to the needs and requests of the bounty hunters who are not united and who do not posses any threat?

Lol. I though the "allocation" and the total number of "participants" were fixed? I am sure they announce how much they will be spending on those bounty program.
You join the hunt knowing how much you will be receiving. You receive your promised amount. Now, if the value of the tokens of those shit project falls, there is nothing much you can do.
Those new project you are helping for pennies are shit projects that are just leaching away investors money. Try doing something else other than joining a bounty program.

I do not want to talk much about this issue, although I agree with your opinion, but the fate of a prize hunter depends on your own luck. I mean in this forum they have their own rules, including bounty projects, they also have rules. as a bounty hunter you have to follow any rules, if you like it then stay if not then leave. that's the point.

Fixed bounty allocation: it's just depends on the project team because if they're interested for extended bounty week then it's better step increase bounty allocation. Otherwise hunter do not agree extra week without increasing bounty amount.

Limited bounty participants: there are few strong project want small promote with limit hunter. Because there do not follow bounty work even their one of the first target investors profits.

What will be your first action to protect penny rewards? This situation is very rare, from which project you got 5 USD for 8 months of work. I'm assuming that this is a scam project. Do your research because after paying you can't do anything. Fixed bounty or limited bounty nothing different in it, only matters is the real project.

Do you mean fixed amount bounties like Shengworld? Yes, such an idea is Good, and I think the reporting should only be in the forum. However, I think you should research bounties before joining, IQCash Bounty I don't like it from the beginning. hope you will get a good bounty soon that will benefit you.

You’re right about that. It is up to us, the bounty hunters, to stand for what we want. But the problem is that it’s not going to be easy; even if some of us agree that we are not going to join low paid projects, there will still be some people who are desperate to accept those pennies. It has been a long term demand for getting paid in BTC or on any other established altcoins but it seems no dev will be ready to accept that demand.

So, this is not going to really work. I would say it’s best that you just focus on you business and do the things that works for you, instead of waiting for others to do it with you. Stop accepting projects that are paying you pennies for your hard work, only accept the good ones that will be worth your hard work.

I joined IQ Cash bounty and the end result wasn't what I expected, that's the type of results you get from bounties with too many participants, I don't plan on making such mistakes again, I'd rather hunt for fixed allocation bounties or bounties with limited participants

fixed allocation will not solve all of the problems that happened between the hunters and the projects. it must be escrow that can solve all of the problems. It's also better to use native crypto to pay the hunters.
This is the best solution that can be taken. 

We really are bounty hunters on a very bad situation right now we have expectation on these projects from ICO that we are promoting only to get pennies after months of works, but what can we do there are bounty hunters that are willing to accept these pennies and there are so many of these bounty hunters, it's everyone for himself now for bounty hunters now.

Just take the best one among the good one.  Just focus on our actions in our projects. By finding the proper projects it will make us more comfortable dealing with it.  If we feel comfortable so we will get more confidence.  Confidence will help us in doing our job.

we have a lot of people in our bounty community why can't we start a new section on Bitcointalk about bounty where people can rate the project related to the bounty which increases transparency between bounty hunters and project.
its helps us to find us a shit project or legit one.

What I do believe that this forum is not just about having campaigns and earn from this projects, this forum serves as a space for learning too about crypto, I am a hypocrite if I say that I am here to learn, I am also here to earn but earning here is just an addition on this community and I do believe that when we are joining campaigns it doesn't mean that there is a fixed income, as this is not the same when we first started especially it is like 1 out of thousands of projects will give you a lot of money. This is just my take on this so meaning, I don't think hunters will be so special when it comes to OPs concern

Here Isn't A Place To Lay Your Anger In Low Rewards Gotten From Bounties, Meanwhile The Forum Is A Discussion Place And Exchanging Of Ideas. Bounty Stopped Paying Higher Reward From 2017 When Scam  Project Started Escalating In The Crypto Industry. As It Is Now,  No Bounty Payment Can Exceed More Than $20 After Spending Three Months Doing Some Tasks,  Isn't This Nonsense?  It was Like that, And Will Still Be Like That And Nothing Can Be Done About It. I Would Advised You To Patiently Rank Up Here To Start Participating In Signature Campaigns.

Whatever strong bounty is this members should be paid in tokens not by stakes. There should be strong terms and conditions to post on bounty thread. I don't think newbie should post on bounty.
Like minimum wage in Europe and America, blockchain project should pay at least minimum price in tokens. In case of scam accusation get some securities from Company who advertise bounty.

Technically this should not be the priority here I guess. Legit projects are just there waiting to be fish and only you have the responsibility to look and search for it. Why so many hunters are so dramatic here, as if they have been cheated and scam by projects? We dont invest money, yes it uses our time but if you pick a scam one? Whose fault is that? Forum staff, admin? Or theymos? Drop out the childish act.

Bounties have stopped paying high rewards to bounty hunters since 2017, let's stop expecting big rewards from bounties and do research on projects before promoting them, it's not bad to hope for bounties with limited participants but that's not up to us to decide

For small things like that, of course I always see it, so I did not join in the first round because I saw many participants who had joined at that time, and decided to join in the second round, because basically I did not sleep and always looked at the allocation before joining.

We will not be able to influence somehow this situation in any way. The forum is not a trade union organization that fights for the rights of participants in bounty companies. We ourselves indulge in dishonesty of relations, taking part in companies for scanty remuneration. It is necessary to carefully select companies, and discard all garbage. You need to start with yourself.

I like these two implemented but some projects here have greedy managers and developers and they want to have as many promoters promoting their projects at almost zero cost, some bounty hunters are even cheating so they can get more tokens, one of the hardest thing also is finding good projects to join because there are so many useless projects.

Bounty is now so bad, their budget is too low and after listing in exchange, the price continues to collapse. I recently saw the Dogdata project, they had a bounty with a budget of $ 50k. But in the past 2 days the price has dropped by more than 20 times and now the bounty budget is only about $ 2000. People work for 6 weeks and receive $ 1-2 for their work

The current bounty campaign setup here at Bitcointalk is very exploitative. The campaign managers and the promoters face hardly any penalty, even if he bounty hunters are cheated of their rewards or the project ends up as scam. On the other hand, if the bounty hunters make the silliest of the mistakes, they are punished severely and their account here nuked.

Dogdata project use case is meaningless, it's something that shouldn't be on blockchain in the first place, I don't know why people choose to promote such project, first time I saw the campaign I knew it will end up very badly

Believe me, not all bounty hunters will follow you on this journey, many bounty hunters don't care, it would have been great if we can all come together and start ignoring some bounty campaigns that want to take advantage of bounty hunters

No one would listen to your complained. As much as we wanted a system that rewards will be secure it wont happen. Forum is not created for bounty and we all know that. Good thing this section still here and they will not remove it cause its about altcoin and this forum is much focus on bitcoin.

But if I were to choose I like your suggestion but the sad truth will never happen and we must accept it. Just do your thing when doing research about projects.

Here are names of bounty managers that still likes listening to what their bounty hunters have to say,

Bubbalex
Bounty Detective

I trust these two bounty managers when it comes to too many participants joining their bounty, they instantly put restrictions to their bounty form to limit participants once bounty hunters start complaining. I hope many bounty managers will learn from them

No matter how stron the united bounty participants, the bounty managers will always take the decisions based on the total bounty allocation and the allocated bounty total pool. The whole bad scenarios have been happened due to the mentioned reasons by other forum members but this situation will not stay here forever. The managers have been managed the bounty campaigns with great dedication but the crypto market is in the recession mood, so never expect a big difference if we look at the current market circumtances.

They are the professional managers in this market, and their campaigns are the best and have a very high chance of success. Everyone should participate in their campaigns to be able to find successful campaigns in this market. Do not waste time with other campaigns

You are right, bubbalex and bounty detective are the most trusted right now, I have no luck following arteezy or wapinter bounties anymore, look at what happened to dogedata even when arteezy talked good of the project

because its really  hard for individual persons to follow other suggestions . The only thing they are thinking is how they can earn from bounties even how little it is .

I understand this complain to make this things happen you need to be the first to follow what's your suggestions  is.then hopefully  other will also do their job and stop prompting a project that they think they will only receive a less payment.

I'm with you all, limited participants is better, right now many people are sitting at home to make a living through online and crypto space have seen many new users within months, so presently we have too many bounty hunters in this forum, that's why many end up with 2$ for bounties that takes month to get through.

especially with Bounty Detective, I observe that some of the projects managed by this manager are good projects worth following like the ARCS project that I am currently taking, I also believe that this project will bring great success one day.

If they manage scam campaigns, then I believe they will also receive negative trust. I have seen a lot of bounty managers get red trust from DT members in this forum. And for the bounty to become a scam after the campaign ends, it is not the managers' fault.

Bounty managers also become scapegoats while managing the bounties. In most cases, a bounty manager may have zero information that that particular project is going to be a scam. If the project fails, or if the promoters are not keeping their promise, then all the blame is going to fall on the bounty manager. There are a few frauds among the bounty managers as well, but I am saying that more often it is the promoters who cheat.

I never join the bounty which has allocated small amount of tokens for hunters and has not limited the participants. I always join the bounty which has allocated above 3% tokens for bounty rewards. Joining bounties like Emirex,IQCash as at the end you will get just a small amount of tokens.

So before you enter a bounty you can try to do the maths by calaculating all current stakes and the take the total token allcoation and divide it by the number of total stakes of all the other users.

The problem is the team itself caused by the team was dumping the unsold tokens from the IEO as far as I know if the dog data team was not getting a good result on its crowdsale. That's they the price was getting dumped so hard.

I dont think theres issue here.  if you're not ok with the bounty rules.. simply ignore the campaign.. I dont participate in bounty campaigns longer than 2 months..  except for some cases.. I dont find it funny that you're asking for rights.. if you dont join the campaign others will.. theres no issue here.. and I find this topic very funny

I don't know why you are complaining about the iq cash bounty,  you shouldn't join in the first place if you find the allocation low, it's not like that you're forced to join in the campaign, there's just alot of users in this site.

I think when we become a bounty hunter like we do now, you can participate in all bounty campaigns that you can follow because you have to be able to use it, don't be afraid if you fail or don't get much from the bounty campaign, at least try and when you get it. any results must be grateful.

Dogdata is no longer a good project, its price has been consistently collapsing from the past two days. As a bounty hunter, we have to more responsible for selecting the bounty campaigns. Because often many hunters join the project without researching it and after that, they get regretted about it. Therefore as a bounty hunter, we have to work more carefully by choosing a project with good potential.

Can we add bounty escrow TheGeomadao project has done that the token was escrowed by a trusted manager and bounty hunters are all happy to received their bounty even though the IEO sales is not yet starting, the manager's reputation is at stake if he failed to distribution the stakes of the bounty hunters, I hope those new bounty campaign will be escrowed by a trusted manager so the the interest of the bounty hunters are protected.

Rights?? Maybe you posted in the wrong forum. Who said that bounty hunters has rights here??
Bounty hunting isn't compulsary that you must join forcefully. It is a choice of the user if they want to join or not. Bounty hunters doesn't have any rights here especially with the rewards that the campaign gave to you. You can reject the campaign if you want. They don't force the users to join in their campaigns.

Just stand for yourself and no one cares about your agenda. You are like rallying in the middle of the street with no companions or anything. If you don't want to be paid 5$ for your work then don't join. If you want your work to be paid correctly then find another job where you can spend your time with.


None of the 2 will happen as the bounty campaign will depend on the campaign manager or the developers of the team themselves. What can you do as a bounty hunter is either accept the bounty reward and join the campaign or just simply ignore it. Like I said, its like you are rallying in the middle of the street without any companions. Go find another job and don't waste your time in bounty campaigns and if you know that they aren't paying you bounty hunters correctly then FUCKING STOP!!!!.

There is no honor among bounty hunters, we can't all come into same conclusion to make bounty managers and project teams see reasons, I'm sure that many bounty hunters are fine with the pennies they are making, all I can say is to pick bounties according to your taste

You are so right, while some hunters try to fight for fair treatment of hunters others will  act so cowardly and accept  whatever pennies is handed out to them believing that is what they deserve, so in this case, each hunters should choose whatever they feel will be rewarding and if nothing good comes from it, you accept it and move on.

I agree with you guys' point. Say even we have the kind of union for bounty hunters, there are always some bounty hunters willing to take any amount and because of that, project and its bounty manager could stand with their point in terms of paying.

It's better for you to discuss about the payment with the developers directly whether they wanna try to deal with the hunters or not. I guess if they will not try to follow what we have already expected before. It's a difficult thing for them too.

That's right, every hunter has different thoughts and choices in bounty hunting, they have clearly chosen or participated in the campaign according to their own desires, so to draw conclusions in this case is to follow the campaign according to their respective tastes.

that's true because right now there are very few bounty that have a chance of success while bounty hunters are increasing day by day so we get fewer tokens than in 2017

many good projects now, don't worry if you lose the project, you can look for it, Bounty will always be there,
because the project and the bounty have become marketing strategies

True, bounty is a marketing strategy of new projects. They just need to provide a small budget and then they will get a great community. Just by working hard and doing research, I believe we will see good projects in this market.

This is so painful honestly, and it has been been for a while now.  Some bounties pay meager amount while some did not even pay at all for works of several weeks.  I think we need to be highly selective in the kind of bounties we join.  The bitter truth is that, hardly will you find a medium to high paying bounties now, very few.  So it is better to search carefully and find that only one bounty that rewards our efforts than participating in multiples that amount to waste of resources.

Obviously we can reseach this campaign from the start. They have a fixed budget and are listed in the market, just by performing a calculation, we can see its budget will be very low.

It would have been OK if they were getting at least the pennies. But the vast majority of the bounty campaigns nowadays are not even paying those little rewards. From what I have seen, up to 80% of the bounties end up either as scams or failures. Even among the remaining 20%, at the most 2% or 3% may pay the bounty hunter good rewards that can be converted to either fiat cash or ETH/BTC.

I also don't understand why there are so many people complaining about this bounty. There are many people involved in this campaign but their budget is only about $ 15,000. That's why people only get $ 10-20 for a month of hard work. For me this is a good campaign and its price may increase in the future, hold it and wait for a better price to sell it.

So many people are complaining about it because the payment is very low. Even if they promise $10 per month, the actual rewards may be much lower than that. Because I have seen tokens losing their value by up to 99% once they get listed. Actually they could have limited the number of bounty participants, and this could have benefited the bounty hunters and the campaign manager.

we cannot blame what happens after they are traded on the market. not all tokens that we receive are like that. can you see cartesi? they pay with their tokens registered with binance. the price of their tokens does not decrease, instead, they experience an increase even after the first stage bounty is distributed. that means all depends on our ability to choose the project.

I would like to mention the same message I wrote in similar headlines that have been opened before.  Bounty campaigns are created for project promotion.  For this reason, projects prefer to make payments with their own products.  We know that almost never such payments are made with BTC, ETH or USDT in such campaigns.  Of course, this is not an obstacle to limited participant acceptance.  Just like I said in their previous messages, such campaigns should continue to pay with their own products, but the payout rates should be fixed weekly or daily.  In addition, they should accept limited participants and create a pool specifically for these participants.  If the campaigns accept limited participants with a certain budget as I mentioned, this will be better for the participants and will be heard more easily in the project.

The bounty allocation is very small and more and more participants join, this is different from the previous year where the allocation could reach millions of dollars. this makes the participants sometimes only get $ 5- $ 20 for months, I will be with you if you have to force the bounty manager to limit the number of participants

Actually we are all on the same side. Limited bounty participants have some problems if this project has fixed high allocation. Take as an example, one project offered big rewards for limited bounty participants than these people can price dump easily. Per person fixed rewards could help bounty hunters.

Because in 2017 and 2018 ico easily succeeded and attracted a lot of money from investors. Now the ico is dead and investors are no longer interested in the ICO. That's why the bounty budget at the present time is very low and often fails

I definitely agree on that one. I mean it really does not matter whatever rank you have, if you are being paid low then you are being paid low. The value of 10000 coins or token for 10 months work really would show once the deed is over the work is done and you were not going to find ways to monetize the said token. I have a friend who was so happy he got 110 thousand tokens for 5 months work, and waited 2 years only to be told that the project the token represented failed and the project is now working on a new project. That really hurts for my friend and he swore not to do any bounties ever.

While this may seem like a good idea it is simply not possible, almost any bounty you will find has a rule that allows the manager to change all the rules as he wants which means that a bounty could begin with a limited number of slots and you may decide to join thinking you will get good profits, but after some time they could increase the number of members accepted and even if you protest there is nothing you can do since you accepted that rule from the beginning, in my opinion there is no way to fix this and bounty hunters should try to find another way to make money on the markets.

I understand how this feels, imagine working for several months and at the end the reward is just about $5 or less for some campaigns that too bad, reason most times is because the bounty participants are too many and the bounty didn't close form for new entry, bounties should have limited bounty participants.

If earning $5 after working for 6 months is not bad enough, you need to go through the tedious KYC process in any cryptocurrency exchange, just to convert this small amount of tokens to fiat cash or ETH. Life is tough as a bounty hunter. Especially for the newer ones. 2017 was really great year for the hunters. Now it is getting worse, year after year.

Is very annoying the way some Bm choose to handle projects this days, instead of allowing few hunters to join the bounty campaign so that hunters can earn meaningful reward at the end of the bounty, they will rather open the form for thousand of hunters to join a bounty of $10k total pool, I just hope hunters will stop joining this type of bounty and fight for their right anytime soon.

It is really a concern which i believe affects every bounty hunters on this forum. It is a known fact now that most team do roll up bounty campaigns with such a little payment allocation that will show any sane person that this is a slave work. For some time now, I've made it a habit to always pay attention to bounty token allocation because it's most important factor that will guarantee how profitable the campaign will be on the long run

that's true and the decrease of the price caused by the inconsistently of developers itself. This is something that must be avoided to create a good ecosystem. the bounty should have limited but it needs a lot of consideration from the various factors.

but it is very rare for bounties to limit participants, most of them gather as many participants for their promotional purposes, but the allocations they provide are very few, now and in the past are very different, because in the past there were only a few people who knew bounties and crypto.

Fixed bounty allocation? Yes, I agree with that because the reason the hunters do not want to participate is the number of tokens they get is very small and the price is not necessarily appropriate after being registered in the market. very a lot of bounty hunters complain about the payment they get because actually that is a risk that must be accepted.

Bounty hunters are in a bad situation right now, there are so few bounty campaigns right now, and there are so many bounty hunters in the forum and many more are coming for every new bounty project there are new hundred bounty hunters coming so the ratio is in favor of bounty campaign he can have so many bounty hunters working for a few cents.

You should be aware that Participate in bounties more even thousands I think no matter if it was paid or not for something that you naturally have a lot going on the project scam, do not pay the bounty hunter, gifts were small and not fit for the work they do try bounty looking better and make you're to evolve to seek bounty/project very nice. better look for a signature that pays bitcoin if you want to get paid accordingly.

The bounty hunter had already experienced a crisis when at the end of 2017, many bounty campaigns failed and were unsuccessful and made many bounty campaign participants disappointed because they did not get the results of what they had done. campaign cannot be made as the main income.

The developers were putting the main intention to create a bounty campaign above the hunters itself. in fact that this will never happen until there will be a good consolidation between the team and manager at least some hunters were giving the suggestions too.

First of all you must remember that nobody is forcing you to participate in any bounty it's totally depends on you if you don't find benefits in any bounty simply don't involve in it and the second and important thing which we must not forget we are here not for condemning bounties and its rules the main purpose of this forum is to gain knowledge and sharing idea about cryptocurrencies and many other things that's why we are here.

True! Bounty campaigns are now paying too little while the bounty hunter society is getting bigger. The competition between hunters is too hard while the campaign pays unreasonably. To be honest, right now signature campaigns are the one that we should follow even though we need to put hard work into it!

Well, basically there is no compulsion in this matter. maybe you can wait or find a bounty that suits you. I honestly support this, it's just that this is not something we can determine. however, there are terms and conditions that are submitted before entering a bounty. support it or not, that is our own decision.

right now I see conditions that are not good like this, in fact there is no bounty campaign that can be good, although there are some bounty campaigns that still exist and are still willing to make very small allocations, at least try to participate and as much as possible can still produce something from the bounty campaign .

If you are not happy with possible rewards, it is the responsibility of the bounty hunter not to join. You can't oblige the project to follow what the participants wanted to because it is their own project. What the participants can do, is suggest to the BM or the project owner, but the final decision is still on them. So up to you if you will join or not. You can't expect them to follow bounty hunters' wish or request.

Nah! Bounty Hunters aren't going to be United on this one, some bounty hunters are so satisfied with the results they are getting from bounties, while you walk away from projects others don't mind joining

They require more posts but have a much lower budget than before. Now that the budget allocation of the signature campaign is only 10-20%, I still remember that in 2018 2019 the bounty budget of signature would be 30-50% depending on the different campaigns.

Yes because most of the bounty hunters are satisfied already once the bounty campaign paid them, they find it much better than not being paid. Aside from the said reason, I don't think that this will reach anyone. No one is responsible to filter the bounty projects and their allocation for the bounty participants.

There are many bullshit projects in this market, but there are also many good bounty projects for you to join. Just do the research very carefully and I believe you will be satisfied with it

I agree with you there are many bullshit projects in this market, but I don't see any really good projects this year. There are a few bounty that have successfully IEO and listed in the exchange, but its price quickly collapsed many times before they made distribution bounty.

That's a very reasonable thing, because every bounty hunter certainly works for himself using his own time, so the problem of being satisfied or not with the payment he receives has nothing to do with other people.

I, myself also joined the round 2 bounty campaign of IQ cash but for a week only. I can tell that there are many participants who joined bounty campaign and the allocations is very few compared to other bounties out there. It seems like there are too many participants to share with few allocated tokens for that campaign. With that kind of system, it would really be disappointing to join bounties even though it's a legit one. Months of work will be useless if the received alloacation is not even enough to pay for the internet and electricity cost for a month.

Since many bounty hunters are available on this forum now I think it's the perfect time to start fighting for limited participants bounties instead of the old ways that allow unlimited participants, I knew project team want unlimited participants but the truth is few hundreds of bounty hunters are enough to send the message about a project out

Bounty hunting is legal, although state laws vary with regard to the rights of bounty hunters. Bounty hunters have been arrested for killing the fugitive or apprehending the wrong individuals, mistaking innocent people for fugitives. Unlike police officers, they have no legal protections against injuries to non-fugitives and few legal protections against injuries to their targets.

My advice should start more carefully in participating in the campaign, the reason is that the payment can be more balanced with the work we do. Actually the manager has also informed that there is no compulsion when they will follow the campaigns they provide. But at least we can know more about which bounty managers who really provide proper payment for the work we do, and vice versa we as bounty hunters can provide good quality work in order to get decent payments.

Yep this is really problem for hunters that their rewards is too little because of not limiting the participants. It would better if there is a rules in this forum for limiting the participants. :)

I further agree with the limitation of participants in the bounty and the distribution can get a lot of results it depends on the allocation given if the number of participants is not limited then the distribution will be distributed to many people so that the amount obtained will be small

The reason some people are not getting satisfied is that they are putting in much effort into what they do. In stated of stay there and be complaining that they are not getting enough from bounty, they should widen their tentacles, get engaged in more activities and commit more time, they will see the result. There will even be an improvement. You might have a all account here, but there are other things you can do that would get you more pay. Develop yourself, get more skills and you will be fine.

Actually, earning money doesnt really only limit out with bounties yet there are other things which are outside on the scope of this field
on where it do talks about skills and knowledge just like on what we have seen on services section.It doesnt really limit out people since
they can do task aside from bounties.In topic answer about taking actions then its pretty useless because no matter how hard you do fight
for your right, only the project team behind would have to decide in the end of the day.

Again I started my work at the wrong time but I noticed that the signature budget was huge compared to now. Now the bounty budget is very low even though all investors think that bounty hunters dump the price. Fixed bounty allocation or limited bounty participation won't help the United stand. Wait for a market pump or next year.

i think by now those who have been in this forum for quite a while already know those BMs that are really doing their job and only accepting quality projects. if you follow them, the chance of getting paid is always high. because guess what? most of these reputable BMs in this forum are only accepting BTC paying campaigns.
so there's no need for the bounty hunters to be united because it is useless. every project has their own rules and they can do what they want. so the decision is left to the bounty hunter. stick to those reputable BMs or join those token paying campaigns that mostly ended up trash!!!

I think is not important about limited participants but how trusted of bounty campaign manager publish their campaign and give good reward for bounty participants, most important thing bounty campaign manager could guarantee with their bounty management and how trusted will listed on exchange market and have value.

It's quite unfortunate that issues pertaining to payment for bounty hunters have been ongoing for a long time without any sign of review by projects. Its much more ridiculous when after participants are promised payments after a very long period and at the end of the day are sent out without any compensation for job done. I've been bitten severally by these projects and would love to see a change. Bounty hunting is getting worthless by the day and it's not a good idea.

Bounty hunters of ICO are treated cheap, these developers and bounty managers  can because people still join bounty that are already full with  so many participants and the allocation is just to small, as loan as bounty hunters accepts and joined campaign that are already full the cheap price in bounty will go on, because bounty hunters  want to receive token however small, hoping that the price will be better in the market.

but in reality, the token consideration obtained by the bounty hunter will be cheaper than the initial price on the market. at present, there are very few projects that pay participants in their campaigns handsomely.

to be honest, I feel that the rewards given are quite large. however, the problem is when the price of a token does not match the initial price. this makes the reward that initially $ 300k worth $ 50k or even less than that. one of the solutions to this is the dev that keeps the price of the coin.

I understand you, right now we have less bounty projects and many bounty hunters, unlike 2017 when we have many bounty projects with less bounty hunters, limited participants can't hurt a project but I'm no so sure that many BMs will accept this, some will still say 'No' and there is nothing we can do to change this.

no one can keep the price of coins in the market, because the one who has an important role here is a trader. Dev and the team can only develop products well

There's a great need for bounty hunters to unite and see an end to this issue of repression by project owners. Payment for task carried out are based on luck because we aren't sure of payment until it comes to our wallet. Most times, hunters are made to work for several months and after the task are being carried out, the project owners starts shifting tables on when payment would be made. I personally waited for over 6 months for XDB (Digitalbits) only for my hopes to be dashed.

Actually joining bounty campaign to earn massive profits is not trustworthy... especially those campaign who have a bunch of participants like there's no limit . . :D
 In fact in the first place if you really cares about the efforts you always put in such work , probably you will always notice it that it's not worth it to join such overload campaign  ;D.   And for sure there's already a doubts in your self before joining,, Wherein "if they can really guarantee such award each participants at the end of the day? ".  Will for me that's impossible .. It's possible only but not the exact amount what they promised since the very first start... You know find some real work where you can gain real money instead relying in bounties cause its just wasting time.  Since mostly bounty nowadays wants more participants to join in there campaign..  just to save their projects from drowning . Lol

 Imagine 5$ in 8 months?  Wtf is that!!?.  Lmao

It is absolutely right that there must be an improvement to the bounty campaign, if it continues like this it will continue to harm
the bounty hunters. There are so many bounties that I have follow, and end up with a very low payment. If fixed bounty allocation
seems difficult to realize, that makes more sense with limited bounty participants. So the amount of payment received by bounty
hunters can also be feasible. Hopefully the bounty manager can start immediately limited participants from joining the bounty campaign.

The main thing that must be improved is the trust of an ICO. because right now ICO itself is no longer attractive to people. if we see that people like ICO there should be a lot of projects developing, but in fact what happens is the opposite right now so many scam projects

No one will save your stupidity,You are the one who's letting yourself to be scammed and fooled.

You already know that they are scammer yet advertising their project and if you did not received payments you will cry.

now the cost we get from the bounty project is very little compared to 2017-2018 due to various factors caused by scammers, so the bounty project is now less and the bounty hunter is increasing.

We all know that bounty campaigns are not as good as before. There are lots of drama, rules are suddenly changed, distribution is delayed, allocation is cut, reward is locked, and so on. Before deciding to join the campaign, we should know that this is a risk, and protesting is just a waste of energy and is useless.
We should be more tolerant, because the situation is like this. Projects that look good can end up being scams, projects that look just plain, turn out to be of great benefit. Sometimes I think that the luck factor plays a big role.
The only way we can make peace with this situation is to accept all failures as a risk, if you don't want that then don't join.
Or choose a project that gives BTC rewards, weekly payments, like those managed by Hhampuz, it gives guarantees. The rest we bet on two possibilities, paid and not.

Your suggestion is very good, where we can avoid the bounty project that is crowded with participants because the more crowded the participants, the allocation of funds we get will also be less and we also have to see bounties that have a chance of success later

Limiting participants will be the best way to protect bounty hunters. Currently there are too few good projects but too many bounty hunters in operation, and this situation makes every good campaign have a lot of participants. And at the end of the campaign each person receives only $ 5-10 for many months of work, because the number of participants is too crowded. So the new bounty needs to limit the participants to ensure the benefits of the bounty hunter

As a hunter, I do not tend to join on bounties that I know will not reach my expectations, Most of the bounties out there doesn't really give me that satisfaction. So I tend to really do my research until I found a decent one. But, This doesn't mean that bounties should not change. Well if there's something you learned about this is that Bounties should raise their stakes if they don't, Hunters will get tired on doing labor for the for of an hour in McDonalds.

In general, a good campaign is always a lot of followers, because every bounty hunter is obviously always looking for a good bounty campaign not a bad one, so in this case what must be considered is the number of token allocations given to the campaign, apart from the number of participants, because many bounty campaigns whose followers are lonely because they are not qualified, do you want to follow a campaign that is not qualified ?

all of that is indeed very influential on traders who can move the price of the coin where the coin is listed on the exchange market itself. but investor interest also has an important role so the success of promoting related projects can influence the amount of investor interest so that they are interested in putting their money into the projects they have chosen that have been run by the project developer itself, and the role of the developer and prize manager must certainly be able to maximize the program promotion, so that later it can attract more investors and people who will sell related tokens so that the price of tokens can be maintained after entering the exchange market

the allocation to the bounty hunter has been determined from the first, and the bounty conditions now are also different, where there are more participants than the ongoing project, so we can only choose and follow the bounty that meets our expectations.

It's really sad and disheartening that these project owners and their bounty managers keep getting away with all these time wasting of a thing. But sometimes I really don't blame them, I blame the hunters who will always rush to register in any campaign they see without even bothering to peruse the project. My advice to hunters is to avoid any bounty with a duration longer than 8weeks. Secondly, look at the payment structure. Thirdly, they should check the BM before participating in their bounties.

The most prominent thread i have noticed about bounty hunting is usually about payments, number of participants; or perhaps number of exited bounties. When are we going to address the influx of participants into fraudulent bounty programs? We need to indulge and educate all bounty hunters to do the most minimum basics before joining any bounty program. Do your research, figure out the principles of the program, and make it tick.

After which, we can then worry about the no of participants or allocated token.

Not the number but the quality, always, always, always.

You want to see bounty campaign type with bounty hunters? Go look at the bounties threads and join Telegram. 30k per channel filled with ppl asking "wen distribution"?

I've seen channels with 50 people and everyone's so active and knowledgeable. I want that one.

previously the hunters had to estimate the total prize to be received, not just join and not know how many prizes were allocated and ultimately blame the project for the incident.
the total participation received by stakeholders and others, I think that is the basic thing that must be considered.

I agree with you when it comes to having a cap or fixed payment for bounty hunters not because it's our right but because our efforts should be worth something because we're working for it and should gain a better payment from months of work done. If bounty managers can hear us and cap their campaigns it will be to our own interest and those who found the project on time because many late comers will not have any campaign to join.

sometimes it happens that some project will not bring the expected reward, as hunters its more of the reward after much effort but for the project its more of the work for little little payment. not all projects will want to cap their participants because its of more benefit to them for much crowd and also with respect to the BM handling the campaign. it will be good to see more capped project nevertheless, some good projects will still pay no matter the crowd of participants.

Dude, you can't know how exactly and the amount that you will be received it consider about all of the result depends on the how much price for each of token after it has already traded on the exchange site.
That means if all are still random.

Yes this is true. Well, on their part they want to have thousands of participants because they want to spread their project widely. But due to so many of the participants, it cannot be truely monitored. Some are not worth it to receive stakes which is unfair to dedicated participants. I agree to limited bounty paticipants. Well I am already seeing a campaign that have limited participants in signature campaign. Yes it is a good thing. I just hope that is applicable in every allocation of a campaign.

Too many participants will definitely ruin the reward from a bounty campaign and there is nothing you can do about it if the bounty manager decides to keep allowing people to join the bounty, larger quantities of bounty hunters is exactly what many project team wants

We all hope that there is a small policy that can help Bounthy Hunter in obtaining their rights. I am sure the parties in this forum will also sit down to discuss your questions.

It is true that Bounty campaigns become less and less profitable with time and the only solutions are fixed bounty allocation or limited bounty participants, just as you said. Unfortunately, the most projects are not interested in Bounty hunters earnings, they just want to get an advertisement for as cheap as possible.

not all projects mate. because some projects have decided to limit participants from joining, in fact, it is the job of the bounty manager to negotiate with the team before running the bounty. I mean the bounty manager must say if participants will be limited. if the team agrees then proceed with the launch of the campaign

Actually it is not damaging the bounty campaign if there are many bounty participants, only the number of rewards received by bounty participants will be less, so this becomes a complaint from bounty participants and the solution is clear to the manager, namely by limiting the participants who enter the bounty campaign.

If the price will be the same like what already promised and the hunters will actually received a good amount of reward but that depends on the manager because the manager will be focusing to reach the main aim to create a bounty campaign to create a massive awareness to the public.

It all depends on the project and the manager. If they want to ensure the rights of participants, I believe they will set the appropriate rules. But until now I don't see such projects, they are only interested in how to get more people involved and promote their projects.

All that is true. But for the new projects, there is no other options available. If they want to advertise to the investors, then there should be a good bounty campaign. Cash rich projects can opt for advertising using Google AdSense or similar services. But how many of the projects can afford to do that? With the bounties, they are getting advertisement almost for free.

as far as I think, we might be able to demand payment, but before making a project, they have written allocations and participants at the limit or not. we can't sue after that. other than that, you are free to join the project or not. Well, we all want to be paid using coins that are already on the market. but, I think, it's a difficult thing especially since it's been pushed for a long time.

You know what is the best part of cryptocurrency - be anonymous. Not all of the of the investors wants to be anonymous, but some definitely do. Using Google AdSense was never anonymous (as your connect your bank account/card to it and verify it). It might be not obvious, but insiders could spread the info about all the transactions and money movement to others.

If a projects announce that "Company A" is their investor, this company's competitors could also invest in this project. For the project is not bad, but for investors means loosing possibility to get more profit or control.

Imagine that you know that Apple stocks will go up next week, you buy some and plan to buy more, but your neighbor finds that out and buys all available stocks :)

I think the days are still very fr when bounty hunters will unite to fight any course or project on payments. The way they fight each other is just something else. If only we can remove envy of seeing others prospers, then we will have one mind to fight.

This is right, however, there is no one who can demand the project team to do what bounty hunters want. Even bounty manager are just following the instructions/orders from the team because they are the one who gives us the payment. They are free to choose token for the payment of bounty participants even if we don't want to, they are also the one who make rules, not us.

The actions you take should follow the project and read the rules first. Many projects have different rules, some projects have also implemented participation limits for each campaign.so you just choose to follow it or not.

I believe that today there is no working method to influence the management and project developers, to fix the real reward for bounty hunters. In addition, Bounty Hunters themselves must act accordingly and not advertise all those projects that are not even worth a cent, and subsequently deceive all Bounty participants by the company.
I also want to note the fact that in most cases, limiting the number of Bounty Hunters in a certain Bounty company will not have the desired effect, since in most cases developers from the air think over the initial cost of their token, and in fact after listing this token has a thousand-fold price less and may never rise to the value that the team claimed.

The project always pays the bounty with their own coins so that more and more holding or investing in allocations is not a problem as long as the coins are already in the market so the hunters will feel happy if the coins are worth the results of the promotion.

Most of the projects have a fixed allocation for bounty, and this can range from 0.4% to 2%, depending on the project. I don't think that they are going to increase it significantly, as there is no shortage of bounty hunters right now. However, my suggestion is to pay 10% to 20% of the bounty in either BTC or ETH. This can boost the morale of the bounty hunters, and in turn the project may get good exposure and advertisement.

What about campaigning for your co Bounty Hunters to Stop joining them?
You have already idea how this company runs Business,and i'm sure these projects are run by same company continuously .

They have been doing this for long time,Knowing some managers aren't care about the Hunters meaning all
 they care is the payments given by the Dev,so even if the first project scams,they
 will still managed the next one and the other next.

Actually this is something that does not need to be told, because basically every participant who has joined the campaign will definitely follow the rules, and for those who do not participate, obviously they do not have to follow the rules of the campaign.

A bounty should limit its participants otherwise too manay participants participate but payment is too low. Every bounty should be paid in escrow before start so that participants will get their payments after the bounty end. Now maximum project don't pay to the hunters after the bounty ended.

Or Bounty Manager should be more selective who he selects for campaign. Just imagine what will be the total response from campaign, if all the signature campaign slots will be taken by Jr. Members-Members (dont want to offend these ranks, there are people who makes good posts even in low rank) and all the social media campaign slots are filled with bots with 100-500 friend/followers, who are also bots.

But I agree that funds must be escrowed from project to BM or other trusted person. This will be the first bridge of trust to these project.

Its an advantage for the project to have many participants it means many hunters will spread awareness for their project to be known not just here in the forum but in social media platforms as well. In return, the rewards are low for months of participating its not worth it but much better than having nothing at all or ended up in scam projects. Paying upfront is good but I think the dev wont do it.

that's true and this is not a problem that can be solved instantly. There just be solid cooperation between the manager to deal with the team but it will never happen if the team has a really harsh hand with their opinion to keep all in their hand, .

Bounty hunters have no reputations to protect themselves, while they are been treated unfair why can't we just come together and make decisions before promoting useless valued bounty campaigns? Anyway using limited participants should work fine but still not all bounty managers and project teams will accept this.

Unfortunately, it’s hard to get a good payout for bounty hunters, because companies dont care about bounty hunters and they use them till the maximum, so we just need to turn a blind eye to such companies and move on or gather a huge number of people and start spamming in social networks about such companies, that they are cheaters, scammers and so on like that.

I like the fact that you are trying to motivate bounty hunters to start standing for themselves, I respect that but honestly not all bounty hunters cares about their lost reputation, its like they are satisfied with the pennies they are making

It is difficult to gather bounty participants to make a decision before promoting a bounty campaign, because each bounty participant has different thoughts in terms of promoting bounties, even though the aim is to get paid more, but to unify the thoughts of bounty participants is certainly not easy and very difficult to do by anyone.

Some of them just come here and post whatever is being asked by the team and they keep doing it without reading what the project is actually about and whether it is feasible. In the end, they were doing things without getting paid for it because the project end up as a scam. There is more to investigate than just grabbing more bounty coins.

Without doing further investigations regarding to project/bounties that you'll going to participate, your
chances is slim expecting decent value of rewards.
There are so many available projects and the team are all competition with investors, they wanted to
maximized the promotions / advertisement
to the point that they'll going to accept everyone, with such kind of mentalities it will results to a lesser
amount of money if the project succeed being listed.

In majority of the cases, it is extremely difficult to find out whether a project is feasible or not during the initial phases. The clear picture will emerge only after the bounty campaign is over, and by then it may be too late for the investors and the bounty hunters. For the investors, the chances are that they will get back the amount. But the time and effort put in by the bounty hunters is wasted.

I understand every bounty participants frustration, rewards nowadays are very ridiculous that’s why its better to limit participation by choosing what you think is profitable but its a very rare to find specially now that most new projects are failing.

In my opinion, if you are looking for a big amount of money for rewards, it would be best to look for a job. It is not good to demand here in the forum especially that this is a forum for discussion about the situation of crypto-world.

Mate, your points are so logical. Fixing allocation is not possible cause bounty manager can't do again about it but yes, he can limit perticipation 200 to 300. It will help bounty hunters, to have their proper reward and inspire them to work properly with joy

   Managers can't do much, they are just managers, they get instructions from the team. And for the team and for the project
it's better to have more people for marketing than just a few of them. Here we can't discuss quality, maybe for the quality
they would give more money and pay for some expert advertising, not for random people on the forum who wish to support
the project for few dollars in their token.

You are right!Managers are just employees or just being hired by the team and they would just follow on what they had been ordered to do so and we know that when it comes to bounty
then maximum exposure would be the main goal or target.

They have nothing to do with projects success nor price up movements of tokens received thats the part of the risk on doing bounty hunting which should people who are engage
on this one should really be aware about.

Theres nothing you can do but to deal with the terms.Take or leave it!

I have seen this same thread on altcoin discussion board, why did you repeat it here. Or you really need fighting squad?.  Actually, you don't own a project, so they decide on what to do to bounty hunters. Some clearly stated before joining, that the project teams and BM has the right to change rules and regulations of campaigns. So you have nothing to do.

Either it fixed bounty allocations or limited participants, every project need vigorous participation, except one that would be listing on good exchange like Binance would consider those expectant you listed. 

I want to think bm are independent bodies providing services for this teams or various project teams, and as such, a good manager should have some terms and conditions laid out on how he/she carry out his management services this way no team can take advantage of both manager and the hunters who they managed,

Even if team the ones calling the shot about how they want the campaign to be run, a manager should equally have his/her conditions so that the team won't go against their initial agreement (which is part of the problem hunters are facing,  team changing rules and conditions at the very end) to protect the hunters as well, but how many managers actually do this! They are more about their pocket than building a reputation or caring about hunters.

Sure enough, I always followed a bounty project that provided limits for participants because in my opinion this indicates the burden of a project to pay participants in the future, but maybe now it's more difficult to find a good project in my opinion because even though the system is like that still the volume is different from before

I prefer joining in bounty campaigns with limited bounty participants and heres why.

Fixed bounty- unlimited participants, after the campaign ended they will only get 20$ or even lower,
Limited participants- bounty will be divided to few participants were they can get 100$ or above for the high rank members.

These rules should have been implemented a long time ago, I fully support, it is better to get $ 100, rather than$ 5 approximately, without restrictions

It sounds better, but is there a real way for us to get there anytime soon.
Feels like most of the bounty hunters are not even here, I mean they won't hear this watchword

the hunters look divided into two type, the first type shouts and requires that the award was divided into 3+ parts, the second type of screaming that doesn't want to work for such pennies, one thing unites you that all just want to get normal money for their work, but this question is not only to the bounty Manager, and in the most part specifically to companies that vistawall such a small amount, but the problem is that even with a very small budget will still be people who will take part, sometimes I think that even if the company say that will not pay, but many will still take part

bounty allocations are almost fixed for every project. true that limiting the participants would be very helpful for bounty hunters, the number of participants makes the allocation obtained to be small. when viewing the final results in a spreadsheet that is very painful. So limiting participants is wise idea for this issue

Yes, the restriction is a good job, but we must first of all still solve the problem with bots those who use 5-6 accounts, they take up almost all the space in just 1 day, while BM checks everyone, frees up space, it may already take 1 week, and this is not so small

I have no problem with rewards, the problem is it's hard to find a good project to join I have a friend who gave up bounty hunting because out of 20 campaigns he joined not even one gave him a profit, they either did not get into the market or the project is a scam, Dfinance is my first campaign hopefully I will be lucky in my first bounty campaign.

Limit perticipation isn't going to possible even in future because CEO and team members are greedy. they just want to promote their project so cheaply when they raise so much fund by the help of hunters. even sometimes they start hypocrisy so that to avoid distributing payment among hunters

And some of those bounty with low bounty allocation sometimes do not pay they keep saying spreadsheet is not ready, until 1 month have pass they give another reason not to distribute the rewards

I think your mixed up abouy this discussion. This isn't a spot to intentionally win cash. This abundance crusade is simply just an advantages of having conversation here. In the event that you are going to grumble about this, at that point better quit doing abundance and why make an effort not to get a genuine line of work that takes care of genuine cash. I don't think theymos or any administrator here would tune in to this. They will peruse yet this point will be disregarded reason abundance isn't important for need here on gathering. The supervisor is exceptionally persuasive in dealing with the abundance to progress and the tracker doesn't whine since it is as per what is finished.

Bounty was so great before, i dont know if it was because bitcoin reach all time high or the project itself are really good and so many of them are legit. I remember bounty like eidoo, they pay $3,000,000 and they even limit their participant. Now, they pay $50,000 without participant limit. I think you or we need to stop joining bounty like that, we all know it's not gonna worth the time and the task.

You have a good point OP, making fixed allocation for bounty rewards may sound good.

Yet, we cannot deny the fact that most of the team bringing up project are doing it for their own interest. This is usually a way for them stealing money as easy as possible in the sense of crowdfunding but it does not really mean a crowdfunding instead this is more like crowdsfunding and stealing activity. Usually they promise heaven but will brought you to hell.

Due to the popularity of Cryptocurrencies, the population of this forum are getting bigger and bigger cases of scamming and plunders are increasing.
Developers have no choice but to be on guard from the people that may ruin their project so they required KYC.
I still remember year 2017 that there are plenty of campaigns that accepts newbie, few scam campaigns, no merit system, no KYC needed, and most of all the high value of most of the Altcoins, tokens and other cryptocurrencies.

In reality, hunters are totally helpless as they can't do anything about this matter. some bounty project come to promote themselves, have very low reward. I asked project manager for limit the perticipate, but he denied cause team need to promote their project with low reward, no matter if hunters received $1 or $2 as reward. that is really bad & have nothing to do in our hand except avoid those project

It is better to allocate a fixed bounty compared to limiting participants because there are millions of members of this forum who have the same goal. The limited bounty participants do not give forum members something in common, although this is a good part of a person. The criteria for forum members have become part of the participant restriction, for example, the minimum rank is full member, or has + merit.