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So I was going through YouTube and got suggested a video , I decided to watch it and thought I would share it with you guys. This video actually showed me why online ones are better.
I will try and sum up everything in my words , plus try and watch the video if you guys have time.

Tricks that casinos use :

 https://youtu.be/MZ1yhmhbucc (https://youtu.be/MZ1yhmhbucc)
•Casinos Have 1000's of security Cameras , they are looking at your every move , if they suspect any foul play you will be detained right at the moment.
•One needs to Choose Right Game , Right Bet , Right Casino and soon enough you can easily earn a descent amount of money . It's all about what you would choose .
•Black Jack might be a Game where you might think you can win , but unfortunately according to casinos Laws , now if you actually win , you will only get 2$ in return for a 10$ bet and that is quite low.
•The reason Casinos Don't like the full table is because they actually give players time to think and place the bet in a manner that they can actually win and therefore the House tries to avoid that .
•You can always get free stuff if you keep playing and give them their money .
•If One Wins a lot , casinos makes sure that the person doesn't come back though
• A happy person serves as a marketing strategy , he might come back and he might even tell others , therefore there are people who are gonna win and casinos won't hate it for sure .
• Fee that the ATM Machines Charge is ridiculously high in casinos therefore get your money out from outside.
• Casinos use your sense of smell the make people feel relaxed , their vents often sends out Lavender and stuff , to make you feel super relaxed
•The Police often take the side of the casinos , therefore one should always be very careful about getting caught.
•Dollar Slots have a higher return rate than penny slots , therefore if you want to try it out , you should always go for a dollar slot.
•Loud Sounds, smell , beautiful sparkling colours , makes user the impression that it's a happy place ' it's all non verbal cues they they are using .
•The reason there are no clocks and windows at casinos are because they don't want to let the users leave !Plus they often give free drinks to make your judgement bad and lavender of ofc Making you drowsy .
•If you want to eat or to go to restroom or to even cash out your Chips , you have to go deeper and which actually means , go through more games , that one last game makes people loose a lot of money.
•Casinos are designed like a maze so that the user might face problems in finding the EXIT , so you will play more ~

That is some tricks from the casino that won't allow the gamblers to stop or leave the casino. They do that by secretly, so we don't feel anything and don't know if they trick us. That is why we need to have control while we are playing gambling, and we need to determine by ourselves how long we can play gambling. When you play for a long time, there will be difficult for you to stop the game before your money runs out.

It seems you are talking about physical casino but I entered this topic with the expectation of learning something with respect to online gambling houses. (It would be good and may not mislead if you take time to edit subject line of this topic to add the term "physical").

I do rarely visit physical casino and after the pandemic panics I do not have any plan to visit them for next 2 years at least regardless of inventions for covid19 or not. So, I guess it would be much more interesting for the gamblers like myself if you got anything decoded on online casinos :P. I guess after provably fair mechanism and close interaction with admins and representatives of online casino, they might got nothing to hide from us.

I think that you talk about only one side of the medal regarding the happy person which is true.What is also true is that an unhappy person will tell to a lot more persons than the happy person will so it may be used as a boomerang against them.However offline casinos have a few extras which you can’t find online like free drinks.

I'm kinda familiar with the other things you have mentioned, and thanks for providing these facts here. But obviously, casinos are doing this to earn more revenue from its customers and it's not that surprising that they have this strategy. Of course, they have to show that they are providing a good service to satisfy customers because that's one thing to attract customers to keep going back.

Aside from providing a good service, they also consider the environment because that's one of the factors that customers are looking for. No wonder why a lot of gamblers prefer physical casinos than online because of the experience they can get in casinos, but little did they know, it's just the casino's way to make their customers spend more time and money.

To be honest most or almost of the tricks listed in the OP are not familiar to me rather than the free drinks and food that most known to all. By the way, I agree with TheGreatPython to change the topic title to physical casinos, not that of a big deal but just for education only. Thanks for this knowledge.

"•If you want to eat or to go to restroom or to even cash out your Chips , you have to go deeper and which actually means , go through more games , that one last game makes people loose a lot of money.
•Casinos are designed like a maze so that the user might face problems in finding the EXIT , so you will play more"

- Not defending casinos, but the reason are two folds:

Cashiers are located at the deeper part of the casinos. Why? early on the days of casinos the cashiers are put in front, robbers can easily jump steal money got in their car and escape. That's why security wise they put it in the deeper location so there will be no attempts or at least robbers will have to think twice because they will have to go to a maze before they can exit, too risky for them.

I never look at it that way, but the video may have helped people realize that it's designed to take your money, and no matter what you do, as long as you play, you could lose in the long run. All of it seems to be applicable, and no matter what you expose about the casinos, people are still going to play on them because they want to play.

I remember when I'm just strolling the mall (the casino is connected to that particular mall), then they ask if you want to be a member, and they are going to give you free stuff just to register. They are inviting people to play in the casino, not knowing the possible outcome if the person plays, like addictive or something.

Some stuff I believe it depends on the casino, but most of it is regular. Keep safe and play online is the best way for this new normal.

Interesting.


I wonder why this^ is so.
I guess it doesn't apply in all countries. I don't know much about guidelines for casinos/bettings where I live. People are given most of the things they win from what I can remember.

Funny!

•Probably part of what makes people addicted
•And this
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Those tricks are kinda obvious. Even I already knew those tricks before I enter physical casinos. Why? It's just the same as the fun and gaming parks in a lot of malls where kids and even adults (even I myself) are being addicted. It's not just the smell of the lavender that you've repeatedly mentioned, but it's the cold temperature that was relaxing. Also, as Yaunfitda had been mentioned, it wasn't a maze, but a safety precaution so that robbers would find a hard time entering and escaping the place.

Overall, it's not a normal tricks and exclusive for casinos, it's everywhere. Malls, parks, even bars.


Indeed. That's why I don't trust physical casinos as they only tend to make you feel you win until you realized you're there for almost 12 hours winning only 1% of your initial money.

nice fact tho i dunno if all of it was true .  i was only more intrigue on the camera thing , i didnt knew that we are being watch every time we placed a bet . what if the site is big and there are hundreds of thousands of users betting at the same time , how can they see that all  ?  still it was creepy as f but i feel embarassed at the same  time because im using a poor strategy from time to time and im also playing with a verry tiny bet   . now after konwing this ,  im going to correct my play now and try to not to be funny when betting   .

I don't think I would be able to stay in a casino for that long, I'm not land-based casino gambler after all. You are still lucky if you came out of the casino with a 1% increase you know. It might not be much but it can be worth something more if you have more capital, lol. The most important part of this is still risk management with your capital and the emotional aspect when you lose because I know a lot of people that keep on pouring out money from their bank accounts just to redeem their losses.

Casinos are created to earn money, to take money from their customers.

Given that all games in the casino have a negative expectation, all that is necessary for the successful operation of the casino is to keep the client in the building for as long as possible, and then the math will do its job.

Some casinos act ingeniously and treat their customers with alcohol for free, which leads to even more relaxation and greater losses, respectively.

Subtle way of preventing the customer to leave  ;D. That's why going into casino isn't a joke specially if you have loads of money you're protecting from recklessly spending. Much better to go there with the amount you knew that won't bother you, once you already ran out of spare money to spend with.

Am not sure but some certain malls are deliberately designed like this. Now I know  :o. Anyway, thanks for that long list, man. It will give more better insights and awareness.

On the contrary, if someone wins big, casino operators are going to pamper that player, even offering him/her at the hotel and given a ViP treatment. Why? Because casino doesn't want that player to leave with all his/her winnings. They will try everything in the book to let that player stay longer and still gamble. And we all know that odds, the longer you play, the higher chances that you are going to lose because of the house edge.


True, I still remember that one casino I played, not only that there are no windows and clocks, but dome of casino is painted with blue and clouds and clear sky, giving you the impression that it is still morning, losing your sense of time, unless you wear a watch.


It also designed to make it as narrow as possible, one person at a time, so that they can really monitor who is going in/out and can caught people who looks very suspicious upon entry/exit.

That's how good the casino owners plan everything, giving the luxuries to each gamblers who visited the place and let them to feel good.

If gamblers get the comforts they'll bring more gamblers with them and the house will again benefits with this gamblers money, the design
of each gambling house is to generate money. Only few lucky gamblers can go out with huge winnings.

I have it when somebody's watching you do what you do. The free stuff thing is basically a strategy to make their customers comfortable so that they'll get back to it feeling that they're been given a treatment that they're going to look again. In that case, they'll have a loyal customer and at the same time, the player shall feel at home and feeling VIP with those things not realizing that the return for the casino is going to be huge. Especially if the player is rich and big time.

Any proof for this?


Obviously, a happy client will refer people and keep using the good or will keep coming back. This is always the best trap.


Well, that is because the Casinos are the one reporting the incident and is the one who complain.


Of course higher bet yields higher rewards, though be careful in using this coz  your bankroll may deplete fast.


I don't find happiness on this impression though.


I have been in several casinos and I don't see it as a maze because exit and entrance is clearly visible in the vicinity.

Physical casinos are a billion dollar business. While online casinos have fewer revenue streams, offline casinos are actually enjoys a lot more revenue streams which can't be offered in online casinos.

1. ATM charges
2. Selling of booze
3. Selling of food and other consumables

So it's a business there and a very serious one. A lot of lives depend on that business. So they try to optimize every single revenue streams with maximum possible opportunities. Customer comform is definitely a part of that strategy.

However, none of these can conclude if offline casinos are better or online. Both have their own pros and cons and somewhat different customer base.

All in the list are in favor of the casino, that is why they are so profitable because they will lure you to gamble more and spend your money inside the casino. Therefore, when we plan of going into a casino, it's better to bring money that we can only afford to lose as most of the time, we get out in a casino with nothing, but with full of entertaining experience if we will just play for fun.

Gambling in a casino is more like an entertainment that we need to spend, and though we have some chance of winning but it's always wise to be realistic and accept that we will eventually lose them all as we stay longer inside the casino.

It's amazing how simple this is but actually a marketing strategy to earn and profit from drunk players. I've never noticed such mediocre things could actually mean something in gambling casino's.

That's i only spend the cash that i can burn because the ganes are just impossible to win or maybe rigged to milk the gambler.

   With gambling it's good to have just cash that you can bur Sadlife, if you bring more on the table, there is a
possibility to lose more. Gamble responsibly is a good advice for all gamblers, for new people who wish to try
to gambler this should be more important.
   I chose online gambling for it's simplicity, and I don't plan to go back to physical casinos ever again.

it's not surprising (at least for me) since there is an entire industry, or literally entire cities founded on casino games.
So they should earn a lot of money for building these kind of stuff, I mean these are not charities organization, they know very well what they are doing.
The same applies also for bookmakers/ sports gambling, they use some of the same trick like "highlight" big win, sharing history of success, asking people to bet more events in the same payslip.
I think this explain also why people are so addicted to gabling, it's a psychological condition and they are "forced" to play .

But all of the people in the world now either they have Wrist watches or even Mobile to check time though yeah i get the point,Not having Clocks viewing people about the exact time leads gambler to forgot the time a while and continues playing without noticing they are already staying so long ine ach casino houses.
what can we expect from the casino Operator?they will do anything for the gamblers to stay betting ang give them money by losing their bets.

Absolutely yes.
A lot of tricks are used, and a lot of people gamble each day . Plus not all people have the same behaviour and some get addicted.
About encourage people to gamble in a casino, just as reference, check this link.

https://www.casino.org/blog/what-tricks-are-used-by-casinos-to-make-people-gamble-more/#:~:text=Lights%2C%20Sound%2C%20and%20Action!&text=Wherever%20you%20look%20there%20are,flashing%20lights%20and%20booming%20sound.

"Do you see the light?" Lol. This factor really got me laugh. And it is true that illumination gives a player access to light to see the time whether to exit or stay and keep playing. Yes, if casinos take the lights and windows away, a player can be carried away, forgetting time.

That's true they want you to stay longer because you cannot keep up with winnings you maybe good at the start but as the hours go by, you may not some tiredness but some of your judgement in playing will be clouded, making you lose more, they know how to psyche you and estimate your capability, because you are playing in their turf.

As a rule, the one who is able to stop on time wins. Casino is a funnel in which it is very easy to make a mistake.

More precisely, the very fact of a person being there for too long can already be called a mistake, but here everything will depend on what exactly the person wants to get from the casino.

Most people crave a win and it pulls them to the casino, but the chance of this win decreases in direct proportion to the time spent in the casino.

So, where is this why online gambling is better?
My room also smells lavender.  ;D
The exit is difficult to find because I am lazy to stand up.  ;D

But all of what you said is true. Those are the characteristics of a physical casino.
They don't want you out until your pockets are dried up.
Loan management is also on the sidelines.  ;D If you want to add more problem in your life.

In some part, I agree with you but not on others. Every gambler has its own taste some prefer online and others like physical casinos maybe because they like the atmosphere and playing physically is really different and it adds some excitement but the pressure is much higher. In online you just need to push some buttons and that's is why it is more convenient. But both have their own advantages and disadvantages.

It is honestly interesting to know about how hardly those casinos are working in order to make us roaming around them once we enter  into their premises. Really surprising me on seeing after a casino built a casino with preferred games and all other required set up, they need to make lots of miscellaneous things to keep gaming with them. All of them are seeming like business tactics which are derived year long analyzes and observations.

One thing is sure, it is not that easier to run a casino in this highly competitive industry. Once we enter into this business, then we must need to copy all the practices of what existing leading house is doing otherwise there cannot be any assurance to be sustaining on the business successful.

Common factors on where these establishments do focus on and of course their are businesses which mean they would take all of sorts of way for them to make players stay as long as they can

until they do have empty pockets in the end of the day.This is their primary motive in the first place and i can say that it is really effective if we do base up on how these places are very successful

or profitable.We can say that it is way more better to play online to avoid these things but i can say that it is just the same in the manner that you would still lose up money in the end of the day

if you do just simply let your greed control you - Its all the same!.

The last ones are true in Macau. Most of their casinos in there are of labyrinthine nature that you'll easily get lost in the stream of arcade games and slot machines. While I was not really affected by that at all, I can feel that this is an elaborate way of inviting the players to play more and perhaps try their luck on other machines that might give them the jackpot. The lavender smell, however, that I cannot confirm since I only stayed on that casino for an hour or so before I called it quits since I don't like the smell of different perfumes and the noise inside the complex.

It was a fun experience for me for the first few minutes but it became boring later on. If you fall into these nasty tricks by casinos, it's that you're just hooked with the games and the idea of winning. Aren't we all at some point?

There's indeed a point on where we get hooked into these kind of things.What differs here is that our own experience do tell us and made up some realizations that we shouldnt really engage too much or do let ourselves being hooked.I do have the same behavior like yours where excitement and fun do only last for few minutes and maximum of an hour and later on it already feels boring and that the time i do get out and call it a day.
It matters on how self-aware you are into your surroundings and to the actions that you are making.Casinos will normally set up the best for their players for them to stay up even more longer since they do
know that they can really took advantage from it.

Physical casinos are always designed specifically to keep the customer more inside.  In particular, we can see that some of the items you have specified prove this.  On the other hand, to comment on the articles in general, I think that many casinos are legal and therefore will not cause any legal trouble to their customers.  Also, I would like to emphasize that all casinos are equipped with high level of security.  For this reason, it is almost impossible to cheat in physical casinos.

Thanks for sharing the valuable info with applied use cases. So you suggest betting more on online gambling platforms rather than physical casinos due to the mentioned possible cases. But I have the worst experience with live dealer Blackjack tables compared to the real physical casinos where I can sit face to face with the dealer and think about my next move. The cheating issues and rigged games are a big NO for me, unfortunately.

The security guards are supposed to prevent the cheating issues with physical devices but the success percentage is lower than what they expected in some rural areas. High-level security is also required to keep things easy for dealers when they win 45 hands consecutively on the Blackjack table, the emotional gambler can decide the unexpected behaviors, and the intervention will be necessary in such cases. I have seen worse cases on physical casinos, the dealer's face became red when on customer lost 32 consecutive hands-on Blakcjack table after changing 2 full decks.

Honestly, I haven't been to a physical casino but based on what my aunt used to tell me, once you have entered the casino there will always be a reason for you to return and play again. It is not just the casino who uses these psychological tricks even fast-food restaurants and other businesses. Colors, design, fragrance and a lot more triggers our brain unconsciously to be comfortable, relaxed, and happy. It is part of their business that is why being cautious and responsible when going to casinos is in your hands to avoid getting addicted to it. If you know for yourself you can't handle your self, don't go there in the first place.

Maybe you should at least try playing at the physical casinos to somehow prove what the OP and I had been mentioning. And no, 1% isn't luck after hours of playing. Yes, you would feel satisfaction that some jobs cannot give you, yet everything you have in gambling were just permanent that even doesn't last for weeks. Also, if you are a gambler or wanted to be one, emotional control must already been taken care of before entering such activities, so as the risks. Overall, you're right - that people keeps losing and losing. That's why I've hated playing in physical casinos from time to time as well.


You're quire right yet I think the OP have no intention suggesting a much preferable platform but rather just listing facts why such gamblers often have a hard time stopping at their gambling routines. LOL gambling wouldn't really be good and you can't really win (probably) if you wouldn't enjoy the game and focus only on it. Most online platforms have unfair games even on the physical one's that's why you must only enjoy the satisfaction and accept losing at the first place lol.

I never said I haven't been to a land-based casino, it's just that I don't prefer them just because of the number of people there and the smoking that happens there as well. It's not healthy and not good personally. Maybe I'm a little sensitive to that but I'm not comfortable with that.

I'm quite confused about what you said. You said "permanent" and doesn't even last for weeks. What are you pertaining to, anyway?

There's no big difference when it comes to the games and risks included in a physical casino or online. It's the person's characteristic of how they will handle it, both should have the emotional control or there will be consequences that result in loss of money.

It is true that casinos create a comfortable and happy environment for players to be in the place as long as possible. That is the key for Casinos to make money, it is a profitable business due to their visit. As good players we must know all these tricks and not exceed our limits.

No clocks and no windows is a strategy to make you forget about how much time you spend on a casinos that is why more people spend more time than they are supposed to be this strategy are also used on other places where they want people to stay longer.Counting cards is actually laws against blackjack so if you are keep winning using this strategy you will get caught with those security cameras. :D

Play safe in online gambling site but make sure you pick a legit one.

Psychological tricks for physical casinos are nothing new. There's a show on national geography (or discovery channel, I am not sure) called brain games. There you can see some good stuff about how easy it is to trick someone minds, how to lure people, how to create distraction and trick people to spend more money, to buy something they don't need, etc...
OP has a nice list of tricks that casinos use to lure gamblers and how to make those gamblers to stay there, from visual and sound effects to other tricks. Luckily I don't visit them, I play from home with crypto, so their tricks doesn't affect me!

The casino sites in Crypto are great When playing casino you have to be good both physically and mentally No one can guide their minds in the right direction unless the environment is pleasant and beautiful. That's why you need to know gambling strategies before playing casino If we can understand the techniques of gambling then we can easily gain the benefits of gambling.

Actually even in some  work stations Clock is also absent.

in my office there are no clocks on walls but of course we have our own watches and gadgets to check time but when you are busy working? time is not your priority and this scenario is applied also in gambling.

While you are playing and enjoying you have no chance checking time unless you are a responsible Gambler that knows limitations,this is different thing from addicted players.

The casino thinks that if you come to their place, it means you have much free time to spend, and you only want to search for the fun from playing many games. Even if we have watches and gadgets, that doesn't mean you will often check the watches and gadgets because you are too busy playing gambling. If you do that for a long time, you will lose the money, but you can not have a big chance to make money. It is normal to see there are no clocks in the office because the owner doesn't want to see their employees work in a rush if the clocks show the time to come home.

The reason to have the lavish ambience is that once the customers come to them then they should not leave quickly and wait for as long as possible. In such cases people will gamble as instinct of human behaviour is that what does do also we want to do so seeing others at time even if you do not want to gamble you get attracted to it and gamble and then once you win a bit or lose you want to play to recover etc and this continues and you get hooked to it.

Or the "tricks" shouldn't be allowed in the first place...  should probably be allowed for players/bettors who are experienced and consistently profitable. I guess the casinos could even turn off the tricks for the good bettors to prevent them from feeling too relaxed and winning too much :)

You should consider the casino not as a place to earn money, but as a place where you can spend money and have a good time.
You don't expect to hit the jackpot in a bar after a few beers. So in the casino you need to go with the amount of money that you expect to spend. If you win at the same time - be happy. Lose - remember why you went there.

Even if you are aware of all the points about Physical casinos you cannot fight the urge to continue gambling and continue losing, casinos are made to win if you play longer, the longer you play the chances that you could lose, all the structured of physical casinos was created for the disadvantages of gamblers without the gamblers being aware of it.

Nevertheless, now the players know everything and still continue to spend a huge amount of time at the casino.

The casino plays on the human needs for entertainment and excitement.

However, it was created in such a way that your desire and activity would lead you to lose money and come again and again in the hope of winning.

I doubt many casinos are legally allowed to detain you, even if you're caught cheating red handed. Is cheating in a casino even considered theft?


I've never been given free stuff to continue playing at a casino. Then again I only play on the roulette tables and the rake isn't that high.


How? It would be extremely bad business to ban a big winner. Big winners are an outlier and most casinos know this. Big winners are the best thing to attract more customers.


You just contradicted your earlier statement here.


Slots rarely have a good return in general, best to stick with CRAPs and other table games.


It's illegal for drunk people to gamble in most places. Any casino caught intoxicating its customers would be shut down quick and earn a bad rep.

I've been in a casino once, I didn't play I just watch my friend gamble his money luckily he wins. To be honest, playing in physical casinos are more interactive than playing online that's for sure but what the online gambling platform has is the comfortable that they've got just for playing in front of their computer or mobile phone. As of the moment, it is pointless to open casinos since we have alternative for it, no reason to attend in gambling activity physically.

And there's a pretty good chance the grand winner will continue to bet in order to multiply and earn even more - rising the chances of losing it all again so the casino is never really on a loss. Happens more often than not :)

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I guess every casino applies as many strategies to keep you addicted and to make you come back, online or not. If you owned a casino, you'd do the same as your only interest is making a profit out of it. Online casinos have their own tricks too. One thing that kept me addicted to PrimeDice years ago was their rainbot and the faucet. I spent too much of my time for a faucet of 200 satoshis (BTC was under $300 at the time) and yet at one point I did get convinced to deposit too.

Hence, you could write a "Online Casinos Decoded" thread too as there are a lot of tricks websites use to keep you in touch with them.

The "maze" trick is used in some shops too, if you've ever noticed. There are lots of shops out there created in such a way that you have to see everything in order to get to the exit. :)

There are no secrets, those listed have been with us when gambling exploded in recent times, maybe just some adjustments, but still, gamblers already know this 'strategy', it's just the question of are you willing to be screwed by casinos.

And to add to that list, casinos are using this so called privilege card, ranging from beginning to whales, it could be like silver to gold to platinum sort of promotional cards, you earn points everything to play and then you enjoy something in return like free hotel accommodations. But if you are going to sum up everything, you need to bet and lost so much money just to avail of this. Tricky casino marketing.

All the casinos I've been to have given out free alcoholic beverages to all patrons as long as you gamble. Of course, people who were in an inadequate state due to alcohol were not there. However, a lot of people had with burning eyes from alcohol)

The fact that they are offering free alcoholic beverages, they can't assure that no one will get drunk, but as long as they behave based on the rules of the casino, I don't think there is a problem with that. When we get drunk, we are more aggressive, if we are lucky we could win but since most of the time gamblers loses, it will give them the advantage so that kind of trick really works.

It happens all the time, inducing to "make the purchase", perhaps the most conventional practical example is that of supermarkets, music, hallways, light, you can have breakfast, lunch, dinner, eat a snack, a coffee, etc.
Corporations pay to access certain locations within the establishment with their products, and all this happens without people perceiving it.

The face-to-face casinos are not different, I recommend that when you enter one you know understand what you want to do, what happens when we go to the supermarket without clear shopping goals, we end up buying things that we do not need.

Another suggestion do not go to a casino only if you do not have experience in the game, in reality casinos are for fun and having a good time, a person who accompanies you in that fun is equivalent to knowing if you are really having fun or are just losing money.



 

I like the example of supermarkets. You intend to buy more also if you are hungry and haven't eaten any before going in. So if you are going inside a casino, at least make yourself prepared and plan what you gonna do inside. At least go inside with your tummy full so you are not in a hurry to get something to eat while inside. Casinos will do anything to make their clients stay as long as they can so be careful with traps everywhere.

It is still advantage for the casino, the more people get drunk, the more clouded their decisions are, and most likely will go all in or bet even more because of all the alcohol in their minds, win-win situation. And if ever they got unruly or something, it's simply, they are going to be thrown out of the casinos.

There are a lot of enforcers roaming around, and don't forget the eye in the sky, they can simply tell the people downstairs to watch for someone because he is drunk. Seen this before, just for a sign that someone is under the influence already, expect the 2-3 enforcers on that guy ready to pounce him if he went over board.

It's part of any business to make their customers comfortable. No one will visit a very dirty casino unless it's in a remote place or a place that's not so clean.
That's the reason why they like to stay and gamble with a good environment. It's part of what casinos are offering physically, the cleanliness and good service which will make every customer part of it.

Like all the online gambling casinos which they have an house edge that they are implementing, physical casinos, have all these to guaranty that they are going to make a profit and they will continue to run in profit in a long run, in fact they have done studies on these so they can assure themselves that gamblers will have more time to gamble in their place and gamblers will lose in the end.

I guess there is nothing there to be decoded as all practices are legal and we must need to accept these when entering them. It is our ignorance for not noticing how intensively they are working to keep us to stay with them. Only for those ignorant gamblers' these could sound like tricks hence decoding is required for them to understand physical casino's business model. No surprises for me here at all because even a shopping mall at my corner street is doing most of the things OP mentioned here :D.

If you notice, few of the things are being followed by casinos to improve our experiences and if we notice then we cannot really enjoy that. I mean if we start looking at pleasing nature of casino staff as a part of business then you never get yourself a good hospitality but you may feel like mere drama for money.

If there is something which is illegal by the jurisdiction then we must need to decode it and must make sure a casino as clean as possible in all means and decoding their basic business structure may lead not enjoying the minutes we do spend there.

Every type of businesses have their own strategy to market their business and how to attract more potential customers. Free beverages and other stuff is just a grain of salt for them once they hit the ROI and attract the potential customers. But when it comes to online casino almost everything is a bit far off although the strategy to make and attract more potential customers is always there since that is the most basic once their business is running.

Since I always plan the amount that I am ready to lose, I do not mind losing it, and therefore I can afford to drink even strong drinks, because I pay for them with my losses. However, I have not yet seen someone carried out under the arms in the casino because this person was very drunk.
Of course, houses give out free drinks for a specific purpose, but they do not do it so that you lose control of yourself, you in most cases and so give them your money. You'll just enjoy it)))

I can say that physical casinos would really have that more effective strategy since it can really be applied physically or directly towards a certain player which means they can basically feel out and experience on point which when human emotion and perception is already get involved then it would really be hard to resist thats why these places are too profitable due to this kind of normal behavior a person does.
Of course its just normal for any business to have their own strategy to hook up customers, it might be sound too obvious but hey, its an effective one.

casinos are designed in that way for one major reason - to earn and gain money from the gamblers! what else? so they will offer basically everything just to make them stay. the longer they stay, the more money coming in for them. also we dont need to decode these physical casinos, i think everyone knows that already. it is no secret in the gambling world. so it is all up to you if you want to be eaten by their system

I guess the only thing that is illegal in casino is that if you cheat the system and then get, otherwise, casino can go everything they want to attract gamblers.

Even card counting is not illegal per se, but every casino have the 'right' to ban a player if they suspect that they are counting cards in black jack.

I watched some of these in the movie but I never realize that they are that desperate.

Counting is one thing but do people actually caught those people counting? That is pretty hard to spot right? Still, I heard that casinos in Las Vegas employ retired counters so they know whether a gambler is counting or not.


I could agree with this.

The first one was told by my friend who usually visits the casinos and he always gave me this tip. The next one was theorized by my friends but I think he watched the same video with the OP.

Above all the psychological trick that physical casino did to the players just to attract in playing the games, there is only one thing that we can do to reverse them. If you win already, do not hesitate to go outside of the casino. Do not anymore look to the players that collecting tons of chips or converting their chips into dollar.

Bear in mind that casino will do their best just to earn money from gamblers since they are paying large amount of tax. And it is a business as well. Even it is not a literally cheating or deceiving the players, it is a way for them to make money. So, we have to reverse their psychological trick.

In other words, casinos are a trap.

That is why I didn't agree with another thread I responded to several days ago which says we should pay tribute and gratitude to casinos for giving us nothing but pure fun and entertainment. That simply isn't true at all.

Casinos and what they're offering could be likened to the land of the lotus-eaters where people would forget everything else including home and would just want to stay there forever. 

The very importance of knowing how to control your emotions, if you already have a decent earnings, there's no need for you
to keep pushing forward.
As it will only turned against you once you started to lose, your aggressiveness will hit you up so better to quit while
you are still in positive side.



It's a business where casino owners studied gamblers psychological behaviors, they won't engaged if they don't see any
opportunities to succeed.

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Control and good money management gives a gambler a chance to win while enjoying playing around.

Majority of gamblers in gambling casinos do not know this, all they know is how to prepare for their games and getting their best suit that brings them luck, but when it comes to the technical analysis they do not do research, they are familiar with the structure of the gambling casinos but do not know what is the point or the meaning behind those structures.

It's known that for Black Jack, it has the lowest edge in casino, and if you just stick to simple strategies, wait for comps and promos, then you can actually get even a slight positive return.

$2 for $10 is 20% though so I have no idea what the video means by very low returns! That's got to be wrong number anyway.

TBH it wasn't really bad not knowing these ideas not unless you can manage yourself from not spending that much other than the money you can afford to lose, and not unless you can manage yourself on getting your way out without getting tempted on playing once more. These casinos designed, and tricks, more often, effective for the individual who doesn't even have any kind of plan nor disciplined, IMO 'cause you won't bother yourself to play a little more when you already set your boundaries; time, and amount of money supposed to spend  :P.

The girls where I am absolutely think the opposite of casinos, they think it is unwholesome and to be fair I do not really blame them,,, it is usually dirty, everybody smokes and drinks cheap liquor and then they try and get cheeky with the dealers, so I totally get it.

That said I have never seen how it really is overseas. Is Las Vegas really as pretty as they show on TV?

SOme offers free foods also and of course those beautiful Girl that serves almost everything in live casinos  8).

and what we cannot find is the ambiance mate that Online casino cannot offer us.

But as time pass by gamblers starts to realize those things mate and i believe that sooner every gamblers will learn about these casino operator strategy.

This is really a helpful post so we can be aware next time. Its like the psychology behind getting addicted to casinos, or if not the science that makes you go back to those casinos. I am familiar with the ATM machines charging high, happy person, etc. There are still those that surprised me. The full table, I didn't think they will go that far just to earn more. The casino as a maze like whaaat, that's really the reason why? Cause I think it is effective. The clock and so on makes me feel the creepy side of casinos. They don't want you to go out without losing your money and so on.

This post makes me remember a thread that said casinos cares for us and so on, some didn't think we are being manipulated too spending money too.

PS. how will the casinos make sure the winner who wins a lot will not came back? I hope my brain is not thinking the right answer cause I watched too many mystery films.

Absolutely correct. Now where we have not come everything is done so that we spend as much money as possible. In stores, products are specially arranged so as to make us want to buy more. In a variety of leisure activities offer many related products and services. And so on. Therefore, the casino does not look unusual against the General background. They also try to make sure that we leave as much money there as possible and still want to come again.

This is the fact of physical casinos, gamblers are used as a source of money for the houses. Therefore several physical casinos
forced to reopen in a pandemic situation as it is now, because it wants to make money from addicted gamblers. Therefore
I mostly play gambling online, because we can stop playing gambling without any influence from the owners of gambling sites.
It's very different if we play gambling in physical casinos, it's very difficult to stop playing gambling. Many things make
we have trouble stopping playing gambling.

With restricitons on Blackjack profit by many casinos, the house edge on real casinos are above 5% for almost every games.
Real casinos are not the place to go if you are after profit. You can have much favorable environment on online casinos where you can gamble at your own pace. Real world casinos are for fun with friends and partners.

Besides there is no competition in casino. Unless if there is a tournament but I don`t think that most of us wanted to join. If we take profit in any game, we should convert our chips to fiat or cheque so that we would not be tempt again. However, only 1% of players remind that, even I. Specially if I feel that my hands are a bit of good luck in that day. Therefore, if you have been defeated by your greediness, either the physical casino does not have those psychological trick, you will lose.

You are right! and for those gamblers who are fully aware on how these things do affect their habit or actions towards their gambling activity then they should really make up  steps that wont really make them and addicted one.If they do know that they had past their limits then thats the time they should stop.They do know that theres no clock then they can anytime watch their phones or even smartwatches or whatsover.Great ambiance and noisy surrounding does really stimulate a human being to active.It is hard to control but if you do aware on what you are doing then
this wont really be an issue.

Any casino should be considered primarily as a place for entertainment. It does not depend much on whether it is an online casino or a regular casino. In order to constantly earn money from gambling, you need to play poker, bet on sports and be a professional in this. Because it is impossible to constantly win at the dice game, since everything depends only on luck.

Reading these makes me a bit of luck not gambling in a casino since that would really make a bad loss if that happens. Still, knowing these can really other people from being a victim. I guess it is far better if people are actually playing online. Not just because of the pandemic that is happening but also because of this things.

Physical casinos are also a place for business, most of the time, big businessmen visit casinos to enjoy and have fun while interacting mostly with others that is in the same financial status as they are, so they are building relationships and connections to expand their business while having fun.

While online casinos are for those people who really want to test their luck and have fun.

But right now with our current condition, most of the physical casino gamblers are also taking advantage of online casinos because they still miss the feeling of winning and testing their luck.

The more that we get drunk is the more that we are positive and being that our bets will be continues thinking that every rounds will favor us.
until we realized that we have zero money in our pocket and we have no choice but to Go home.
Sad but true and this is the main reason why we are being treated like that from freebies for us to stay longer and lose more.

I dont know what kind of perception or idea was that about big businessmen.If there were people who do intend to play then that would just basically talks about on having
fun and it would be rare if they would still mind about connections with other businessman into that certain place.We cant be sure if majority of them would really hang out
into these places for that kind of purpose.So i cant really much agree into that point.

Missing out gambling activity wont really matter if you are physical or online gambler.Its all the same when it come to system and do only differs with ambiance.

Constant win or earning money doesnt really fit out in gambling world even if you do involved yourself into sportsbet or poker.

When it comes to strategies of physical casinos regarding into their own ways on trying to retain their players then its just normal because thats how business works.

Each person behaves differently in a state of strong alcohol intoxication. Someone becomes more relaxed and sociable, someone falls asleep, someone loses control and becomes very generous, and there are those who become very aggressive and can start a row if they lose.
However, I have never seen such people in a casino. Perhaps the security guards control the process and do not allow such people to get drunk.

That's why there is security and CCTVs, to remove those people that are not thinking straight anymore. They want to avoid the mess as much as possible and not bother those players. Because if a fight or trouble escalates, that will be a loss on their side. Casinos don't want that as much as possible. The show must go on.

That is true.

If you were attacked by drunk or intoxicated people and the security is not aware of what is happening, then it will be the fault of the casino for not stopping that before it escalates. As far as I know, you can get a lawyer for that and the casino will be responsible for your medical expenses.

This means that the casino security services do it very efficiently or skillfully. I have never seen a very drunk person taken out of the hall. I only once saw a person who reacted aggressively to a big loss being taken out, but he was sober.

It's all subtle effects but once they are put together, they can actually bring about huge effects. This is what amazes me with Brick and Mortar casinos tbh. They spend much effort and actually take the business quite seriously, and they aren't even forcing anyone. They're just subtlety letting them know that they should spend more money on the casino.

It's not only the one getting beaten up that would get affected. No matter the situation, if something goes wrong one way or another, everyone inside would get affected. Especially, if it was a negative event such as a fight, with food and drinks being splattered all over the place. It gives the site of event look like a garbage dump, therefore reducing the over all reputation of the caisno, whether it be a result of an accident or not.
True, most Physical Casinos in my eyes are actually places to get to know other people. Sure, you'd sit down a table and maybe play but really, in the end, it'd boil down to you at least meeting a few people a day, getting to know them and maybe even getting closer.

There is nothing really wrong with having good betting centers for people to come try their "luck" and use their talent/skills for rewards. I believe doing it wrongly is the problem. You could have casinos or something similar to have only good/safe games people can play/bet on for rewards.  You also make sure your customers are betting responsibly/right, and not gambling with their money/time.
I would like to one day see betting centers where people could compete/bet on thing like stimulated farming, city building, animals raring, etc. They should mostly be games people could learn good things they can easily apply in their real environments/societies and be productive even when they lose bets on the stimulated ones. .

Yes, I also have noticed many time about overdrinking is not a problem there as long as not disturbing the funny mood of gamblers but if you complain about gambling in any manner then you will not be allowed to continue any more. Physical security officers need to be more proactive so that they can ensure about no big messy things are not happening.

I heard some higher officials including security people to mingle into gamblers like other gamblers to watch any kind of breach and then signal to control room if anything unusual happens. I have not seen any such people doing but I guess it could be another thing might be happening on physical casino just to ensure their environment go intact. From all these I just conclude running a physical casino is not a simple business rather than that, I may go simply owning an online casino.

Thanks for the heads up. I never knew such details and planning by Casinos were done. Anyways now, because of the pandemic, many have shifted to online gambling. Those things are not applicable when you gamble online. The list does make me believe that online gambling is far much safer.

So it means that those addicted gamblers will want to go physical casino to play gambling and will not care about their health. If they got infected by covid-19, whom they will blame ? This means that gambling addiction will be another reason for the cause of covid-19. Why not play gambling online and avoid visiting the physical casino ?

I think that the presence of such employees depends on the size and profitability of the casino. The larger the casino, the more serious and professional its security service is. I think the biggest casinos in Las Vegas and that's where the best security services in the world are.
For me, as a player, the main thing is that I can enjoy the game and no one interfered with it.

When it comes to gambling places then these kind of problems like rage, argumentation with co-players and other stuff does exist but only on a rare numbers.

Security is a must when it comes to these kind of establishments which is normal because we dont know on when do problem arise that do really needs security intervention

and the rest is just part of the norm on where it is just right for them to place out these personnel for anyones  safety.

Nah, the eye in the sky is already enough for casino operators to catch the cheater, we all know that there are a lot of cameras and for sure those who are going to attempt to cheat are being caught in the camera. But I would say that casino officials most of the times do talk and mingle to players, and specially if you are a long time player of a certain casinos, definitely you will be recognise from dealers to pit boss around. Maybe some of them are friends outside for all we know.

The bigger casino doesn't want to see their reputations damaged because of the small mistake, so they make sure that they can handle their environment. Maybe they are placing their employees as gamblers, making sure that everything can run properly and make money from their place. A gambler who only want to enjoy the game and having fun in the gambling will not want to think anything. They will let the casino handle everything.

Not necessarily. There are still gambling addicts even in Online gambling, and anyone wanting to go to physical casinos to gamble doesn't mean that they are addicts. A casino could also said to be similar to a meeting place which can be used to meet up with other people. It isn't as simple as Online gambling and Physical gambling after all. It's like how Mobile gaming differ from the immersion that PC gaming can offer.
What's the use of having employees pretend as gamblers? If they were found out, it could easily be seen as a way to manipulate the mindset of the customers that gamble. An easy example would be the employee pretending pushing the others to play with him and the like. Just let them be a normal employee, there are cams all over the place after all so any suspicious activity could easily be seen, as long as no blindspots are made that is.

I think that all casinos are concerned about their reputation and want players to feel safe and not cheat in games. However, not all casinos can afford high security costs. Therefore, casinos often compromise on security and the cost of providing it.

I've heard of another tactic. Major casinos have a database of undesirable individuals who have been caught cheating or are simply suspected of cheating. Such people will be denied access to the casino. II have also heard that major casinos exchange this database with each other. And if you get blacklisted in one Las Vegas casino, you may not be allowed in many others. This is also a good protection against cheaters.

It's not impossible, they are on the same business so they are into protecting their respective businesses, though they are competitors but when it comes to cheaters they are united with that. As the saying that I heard before, when you are a casino, they will love you when you keep losing money but if you keep winning, they will hate you and you are not welcome since you are a threat to their business.

I don't know, but is it also possible for a gambler to be ban in a casino even if he is not cheating because he is always winning?

You yourself wrote that casinos do not like those who constantly win money. And if you think logically, it is almost impossible to constantly win money from the casino in an honest way.
Most likely, such people will also be banned from the casino. The reason may be that their method of permanent winnings is unknown to the security service.

well the system will surely detect if they are using bad method but if not?then their strategy is really good and that is why they are winning continuously .

As long us there are no cheating that happens their games ar elegit and must not be questioned.

Also this pampering can't be found anywhere else other than physical casinos because you can't be given special attention in online casinos which also compliments the time you spend in physical casinos. In online casinos you only play some games and then close your computer but it isn't actually the same in physical casinos, their hospitality, their atmosphere can't be matched by anything else, you just feel like there isn't anything better than those in the entire world when you are inside a casino.

But I'm sure we cannot decode this part of casino. A casino's policy on consistently winning gambler is always hidden. If they believe they can make money out of a gambler then they will simply allow them to continue regardless of their short-term consistent winning. Because, houses will try in all possible methods to make them to spend/risk all their money before they will be leaving the house. So, in beginning they will not mind about continuous winning.

To get a complete clear picture of a casino and their policy on each and every aspect of gambling then we must need to watch them for years still there could be more possibilities for them to keep changing  their policies so that they could sustain on their business. We cannot blame them because it is their business model and we must need to agree with them before entering and playing.

Right. However, in this case, the presumption of innocence does not allow players to be accused of cheating. But the casino in order not to lose money constantly has to restrict such persons from entering its halls.


It's better not to think about it at all. The main thing is to know that you have a chance to win and maybe earn a little money.

With this, it comes to my mind if securities are also focused to scout the players especially those who are winning too much to somehow do an act to investigate if that player is doing something fishy why he wins. I just watched film like this and I wonder if the actual physical casino staff does check the player or observe someone that wins consecutively. Because believe me or not, it is also scary to win in a row even if your wins basically comes from luck.

Going back, Casinos in Vegas do really have big team of employees to ensure that they can provide the best service. That is why I think online gambling sites are the most efficient since their employees are limited to Cybersecurity experts, web dev, programmers and internal staff.

Phew, I am sure the employees can hiding their identity among the other gamblers. Or another scenario is the casino can hire some pro gamblers who will watch the games, and report it to the security so the cheater can get arrested. There are so many ways that the casino can do to protect their business from people who want to cheat, and maybe that is only one of many ways that they have.

The casino will know how to deal with the cheat, and maybe they don't have to hire or pay high-security costs, but the casino can use another way. But I am sure the casino can install a hidden camera on their place so the security can watch the activity on every table, and if they find someone trying to cheat, they can directly get that person.

The casino will prevent any unpleasant kind of experience as you say because the casino really thinks of that. The reputations will be the important thing that the casino will want to reach because that means they will have a more big player to come to their place and play the games.

I am sure that the movies do not show even half of what the security services of the largest casinos currently have in order to identify cheaters. Technology is constantly evolving and I think that the security services are armed with the most modern computer systems.

I think this still depends though. There are those online casinos that scam people, that take advantage of the people, and sometimes the provably fair is also not true. I think there should also be another thread like this but with the online casinos: decoded. Physical and online casinos have their own good sides and bad sides, it is just right now with the pandemic, it is much better to bet online.

All the casinos are Packed with cameras. The number of cameras per square meter is huge. And no matter how perfect the cameras are, as well as the many places where they are placed, I think there is nothing better than professional people in the hall who are usually looking for cheaters.

I agree with you. there are enough CCTV in a casino and I don't think that professional gamblers will try to cheat in game, because they have enough skill and they know that very well, you cannot able to gamble in a casino for a long time by cheating, you have to be caught one day and you have to pay double the price for what you get by cheating.

In a sense, all casinos are fooling people.  
Negative expectation in most casino games is a legal way of cheating that is known to people and they themselves agree to it by participating in games.  

No one tells the casino what your chances of winning are, they just tell you how much your win is and how huge it can be.  
Most people become addict  first of all on the fact that their expectations are not met, and they have an acute desire to restore the balance of power at any cost in other words - to recoup and punish the casino for cheating.

We even have a saying among our people: "No matter how long the thread does not curl, and the end will be." And with the cheaters. No matter how much they cheat the casino, they will eventually get caught.
I have heard that cheaters prefer to play in small casinos, where the security system is much simpler.

I don't think your choice of words is proper

Fooling means deceiving, and in its ultimate form, scamming, i.e. making use and taking advantage of the victim's lack of knowledge, as well as trust abuse. However, the casino's house edge is always known beforehand, and you can easily see its effect in games like dice (read, you can check it). But if you know the house edge, it is no longer possible to rightfully claim that the casino is fooling you. Further, I wouldn't call it "a legal way of cheating", with respect to either legal or cheating (read, there's no such thing as "legal cheating")

Legal cheating? This is my first time on hearing out such claims because theres no legal thing about cheating hehe.

I dont know why they do call out house edge as legal way of cheating or do say that they do fool you yet this had been always part of this business

because on this way they do generate out profits.How the hell would someone doesnt consider this?

Maybe the second jobs are to watching the gamblers on every table, so they can know if any gamblers cheat, and they can do something to that gamblers. I guess if social distance still exists around us in the future, we will see more robots that will watch us playing gambling or other things.

I agree with that. But with the camera everywhere, that can help every security members in that place to get updated info from the office about the situations around them. The camera plus the security members will secure the place from the cheater.

If someone is keep winning more bets then casinos will intentionally ban them from playing there, this is biggest untold truth behind every successful casino.They offer lot of free perks for you to enjoy and make you guilty about not spending enough money.

I don't think that casino's will ban someone unless they are caught cheating or suspecting that they are cheating. Of course if you keep on winning, alarms will be raised and you will be put under the microscope. If didn't find anything suspicious then you are good, but we all know that  luck doesn't last. Sooner or later, the house edge will caught up on you.

HE is always there in casinos, so yes, it's not fooling the players as it does legally exist. If a casino has no HE, then it is for you to doubt about their intentions. I remember one casino here that was introduced with 0% HE, and a lot were hesitant about their true motives. Now, it is for the player to choose from these casinos where to play with, because the HE varies a lil bit from one casino to another.

If making use and taking of the victim's lack of knowledge is deceiving/scamming, then that is literally what casinos do. There are too many people who still fall for the typical trap of gambling businesses by thinking that casinos are out there to make you rich, and not to take your money.

Even this forum is filled up with "strategies" for different gambling games and that shows you just how easy a gambling business deceives you by making you think (i.e. Gambler's fallacy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler%27s_fallacy), credits to o_e_l_e_o for teaching me about it) a different session setup or seed would give you an advantage. If that's what deceiving is, then spike420211 has used the proper words.

If you play every day in casino and go home every night with some winnings, the casino security will definitely notice after a while. Security will first of all monitor and keep an eye on you if you are cheating or use any other other tricks like card counting before baning outright people from their casino.
And if you are just winning randomly big time on the roulette table there won't be any security coming to escort you out of the casino. Most of the times people who win big in casinos will gamble most of it away afterwards.

I guess the casino will not directly ban that person, but perhaps, they will watch closer on that person. And if he wins because of his luck, I think the casino will give something to stop him from playing another round because who knows, he can still win in the next round. That will make that person realize that he cannot continue playing gambling in that place, and that will be the right time to cash out his win money.

The casino will give you many things, so you can stay longer to spend more money playing many gambling games. And you will not realize that is the wrong thing that you do in the gambling games. But everything will be too late to realize when you lose a lot of money in gambling.

Right. The interaction of the surveillance and security services in the game area can be seen perfectly in the movie "Next" starring Nicolas Cage.


Can such a ban be written in the casino rules so that each player can read it?

Well, that instantly questions your own motives

If casinos are cheaters and swindlers, then why did you enroll in a casino signature campaign yourself? Or when money talks, bullshit walks? Is hypocrisy the right word to be used here? But seriously, how do you resolve these issues internally? How do you live with that?

They an't ban anyone simply because they are winning but in reality if someone make huge money from betting casinos won't let those people to play in their casino because if such players existed then casinos will go bankrupt.We can see lot of stories from gambler who were blacklisted for no reasons.

they do actually ban people for winning too much. if the casino keeps losing money to you they'll ban you and it won't matter if you are playing fairly they will simply claim that they find you in suspicion of cheating and will just escort you out the casino without properly checking if their claim is correct or not. there have been cases of gamblers that got banned just for winning too much.

So you're telling me that all those strategies casinos use aren't ways to bait customers and the ability of changing your session's setup doesn't almost always give you a false sense of having an advantage in the game? When you join a gambling session, you do so with an "I'm going to lose everything today!" mindset? I'm being realistic here.

I'm a gambler myself. This is basically why dice gambling is so entertaining: you are able to set your game differently every time to "change your outcome" when, in the end, it's either playing low chances with small amounts for a large outcome (which takes longer) or playing high chances with higher amounts for smaller but multiple outcomes (which takes shorter) but always gets to the same result: you either win or you don't. At least that's why it gets entertaining for me.

We both know that casinos are there to take your money. Realistically, it's likely that more people lose at the end of the day gambling but that doesn't take fun out of the equation. Without entertainment, gambling would've been grounded long time ago.

Following the same narrative I quoted from your reply, I shouldn't be talking about Bitcoin no more because most are deceived into thinking it's a constantly profitable investment or have absolutely no idea how to invest the right way, so in most cases it ends first in losses before they get to a profit.

If gamblers are always thinking casinos are places where you earn a lot of money or that different session setups give you an advantage, the reality is basically exactly the opposite yet a quick look over the Gambling discussion board gives you a very detailed view over how many have the "fallacy" mindset. Maybe saying it's a "collective deception" might've been more accurate than saying it's what casinos do. :)

Well, the only thing we have seen among many casinos when winning on their platform, is them monitoring your activities to find out the real secret behind your winnings. If they find you doing illegal stuff around the platform they will definitely get such gambler ban. Sometimes gamblers are lucky about their games, when this luck continue the platform always get some plans for such gamblers to override their luck to lost, this has happened to me in one of dice casino.

It seems to me that everything depends primarily on the amounts that these people win, as well as on how often they bet. Sometimes casinos may use such people's winning histories as an example for other players.
As it is, I agree with you. No casino will not glad from the fact that someone is always winning.

If we look at the life of people in those stories, most of them already lost all their money into gambling again or just left the gambling career and started investment career.

If people after a large number of losses left their gambling career and took up another business, this is a good result. It is much worse if people constantly lose and keep playing and playing.

That kind of person will be in deep debt later on. If a player has no self control in gambling, that's when he starts experiencing problems not only financially, but emotionally. There is no trick in casinos as their main objective is to really make money. So the choice is left to the player if he wants to be buried on that life or not.

If he can avoid taking a loan when he loses and run out of his money, then that will be no problem, although he still has the experience of losing big money. But it is hard to start a new business after losing a lot of money in gambling because we will feel desperate for some time, and we will not have something to help us to rise. But that will not take too long if he has someone that cares with him, so that person can suggest him do something to forget the losses and start to wake up. Every gambler needs to realize that gambling is for having fun, and stop before losing a lot of money will be necessary.

I think we can help those people.

I know that it is their fault being burned out or maybe being addicted to gambling(that I hope did not happen) but we should help them in some ways. We have long threads here about the negative effects of gambling and most of the people here knew how bad it is, it might be hard but in a way, we should help those people. It is not late for them to change.

Then thats the addiction will be present because we if we continue playing when the truth is we are not winning?That is addicting and needs to be cured/.

How many times do we need to learn the result of failure before we accept the fact that gambling is really made for fun and not for profit?
of the casino will find ways to cut the winning streak ,because banning is difficult to do if they cannot prove that you are cheating.

No, I'm not telling you this. It is your invention


You don't see the forest for the trees

Yes, it could be said that casinos are there to take our shekels and nickels. But it doesn't follow from this that they are cheaters, liars, and swindlers. For example, if they are rigging the odds or outright manipulating the outcomes, they would be, and we would be justified in saying so. However, if they are not, it is a far cry from:


When you register with a casino, you agree to the Terms and Conditions (under whatever name). It is there for a reason, and here's one (https://wolf.bet/terms) for your reading pleasure. So, if you agree to these terms without actually reading and understanding them, you can't really claim lack of knowledge, which your idea essentially comes down to. See, once you sign up, you may no longer plead innocent


I always advise against doing this in the way you mean it (Bitcoin as a profitable investment)

If a person has already been able to overcome their addiction on their own, then they can do it again.


Not everyone can understand this. Many people think that they will be lucky and they will become very rich thanks to the casino. People don't even try to calculate their chances of winning.

Hey, I agree with that. It is hard to realize the fact and accept the failure that we made before because if we regret and sad, we might think about how we can get the money back. We do not calculate the chances of winning if we play more, and we might be blind to realize that we need to take a break for a while. Many people already experienced that, and they still trying to get that lesson. In the end, when we can realize that gambling is not for making money, but for having fun, we can enjoy the game without thinking about making money from gambling.

Lol, a couple of players winning big in a casino won't mean that they will go bankrupt. Remember that it is a business and they have deep pockets to begin with. I'm not sure if you have been in a physical casinos, because everyday there are literally gamblers winning jackpot in slots but it doesn't mean that casinos will suddenly file for bankruptcy. And I don't think that you will get an outright ban if you win big. Casinos are more intelligent than that, they investigate first before banning someone, just not in their casino, but I'm sure that the word will go out in other casinos. So it will take time, unless as I have said you cheated your way.

This is the right approach to gambling. It is worth considering them only as entertainment that makes your nerves tickle. The more people think the same way we do, the better it will be for people's health. However, in this case, the casino will be much less popular and their earnings will fall.

If a gambler keep hitting too much jackpots on game like blackjack then they will be surely kicked out from the casinos and they will tell that you are cheating the game by counting cards which is actually impossible to prove by them but still they will ban you based on suspicious causes.

You can check forum like reddit to see how man people were kicked our from casinos for no reasons.

I read another story. Don't know whether it is real or just an urban legend of sorts but it goes as follows. Some extremely lucky dude in a brick'n'mortar casino hit jackpot three times in a row. Since it was too late to kick him out anyway, the dealer has been disposed of instead for not doing something to stop that lucky bastard halfway

Take this account of events for what it's worth, though

I think he did some study on the casino to able him to decode the casino like this guy, The only difference between them is this guy is playing on a gameshow and people are believing that he has extreme luck because of the game he's playing.

The management also tries to stop the game but unfortunately, it is too late, Also he was accused on cheating but they can't prove that this man cheated.

Here's the sauce:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rJw4BgPs4w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfOm7K8A0Pw

https://i.imgur.com/LqQn6Zw.png

When it comes to multiple big wins on a consecutive manner or lets say hitting up continuously  then im not surprised if those casinos would kick you out since you would be definitely

the culprit for their business to be on the unprofitable side.Making out alibis or reason for you to be cheating so that you wont able to play further but in most cases its already too late or the damage
had been done already.

There are lots of situations of this kind.

And isn't there a clause in the rules of most casinos that they can refuse to serve a visitor without explaining the reasons? I think on the basis of this, they can't allow to play people who often win, but their cheating is not proven.

You are right some addicted gamblers are forcing the casino organization to open casino which is not a good thing at all. Their addiction can cause danger for them so if we have a chance to gamble from. home why not take it. addiction to gambling can be fulfilled by anyway. So if you have the opportunity to gamble offline we should not go out as its much better to be careful than blaming later on anyone which is useless.

The addicting gamblers won't think too much because they want to play more and more. Sometimes, they will not realize or forget about the risk itself, and they still trying to gamble using many ways. And now, with some casino are trying to reopen, that can make them feel happy because they can back to gamble and meet their friend or opponent, and they can try to win some money. Perhaps, their reason to back to the gambling table is that they want to make money from gambling, but that won't be easy since they need to have the luck to win.

Yes they can, maybe not legally but still they can refuse any player from entering into their casinos because casinos owned by private has their own rules as well. The same thing also happens with online casinos as well when someone win bigger they will be accused for some kind of cheating and their funds will be on hold forever.

Well, in the latter case you can always complain here

Some tried, with their mileage varying. Regarding land-based casinos, most are located in special zones with "special" laws as well, which in many cases effectively stands for no-law territory (as in "I'm the law"), e.g. casinos located in native American reservations in the States. So don't get surprised when you get kicked out with no reason given, even if your wins don't amount to much on their own

That sounds pretty harsh. I don't think this will hold up in court and the dealer probably sued the casino for a nice payout. The dealer is there to take care of the game in a fair manner, not influence the game - if that would ever come out that the dealers are rigging the game, then the reputation would be over. Which whale would keep playing in such a setting? Also it should be the securities job to take care of such matters, not the dealers.

Is it not necessary to present evidence to accuse a player of cheating the online casino? After all, there is a presumption of innocence and until the guilt of a person is directly proven, he can not be considered a cheater. They can simply deny a person the opportunity to play, but they need strong evidence to block a player's money.

I never thought that it is hard to work in a casino. If that is happening, that is just cruel. The job of the dealer is to manage a table, not to stop people from winning but I guess that is how the casinos work really. Reality is just a cruel place. I have a friend working in the casino in the past but he never said anything about this, maybe this depends on the casino?

We should not rule out the possibility that it is just a myth

However, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if casino employees could be discharged if something like that happened in real life. You wouldn't really expect someone to win jackpot three times without leaving the table, would you? So the dealer shouldn't have let the gambler go on playing after his second jackpot even if for the simple reason there was something wrong with the odds of whatever game was being played. When you think about it, it kinda makes sense to stop the game at once to look carefully into what might have gone wrong

Blackjack is different though, there's no such thing as jackpot on them, and I do hope you know that blackjack has the highest odds of winning. If you are talking like slots games and winning jackpot then there's no way that you can simply be kick on ban just because you are lucky or really be rigging the machine itself which the mafia has done before but eventually they have been caught.

In one of the casinos where I visited, a barmaid told me that they can fire a dealer just because of one suspicion that he is playing along with a client. And if the fact of cheating is proved, then the employee will also face criminal prosecution.

Those tricks are very old but that does not mean they are not effective, another trick that I have seen casinos employ is that if you are betting large sums of money they will offer you all the drinks and food you may want, with the idea to keep you in the casino and in the case of the drinks to lower your ability to think in a rational way, that way you are more likely to lose money in whatever game you are playing, this is why when you go to a casino you should never carry with you more money than what you are willing to lose otherwise you could wake up the next day lamenting all the money you lost.

I don't really think it makes up a criminal offence

More likely, the casino could demand financial compensation according to civil law, and the dealer could do essentially the same if he thinks their claims are unfounded and unjustified. In other words, it is a dispute between two parties to be resolved in a civil court, and there is no crime which would entail criminal investigation, proceedings, etc, and inflict punishment on the dealer according to criminal law if proven guilty

Of course, the casino will recover its losses in the course of civil proceedings.

Fraud is the deception of those who trusted you in order to extract benefits.
If it is established that the player and the dealer colluded. Wouldn't that be considered fraud?

Who established that, the casino?

If so, they don't even need an investigation into the matter, as in this case they can be the law unto themselves as well as the law enforcement agency. If we are talking about legal institutions, though, the fact of collusion can only be established in the court of law after the plaintiff reveals all of their evidence to that effect and the judge finds this evidence convincing and sufficient

With such action the gambler who are betting huge amounts of money will be more aggressive, alcohol affects how he treats the game. It's really common inside the casino house they've wanted to make sure that gamblers will feel the comfort and think that they are giving them special treatment without noticing the real intension.

They've wanted to make sure that the person will continue and stay inside the table and keep betting.

Here is one case in the Philippines wherein the card dealer was colluding with his friends and has raked a total of 5 million PHP or roughly $100K. They did some investigations, and then called NBI (local FBI) and the police made the arrest on the casino floor itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhXNj87TNiE

I think not just food and drinks, and they will offer other bonuses to us so that we will stay for a long time in their place. When you get drunks, it will be easy for them to keep you playing gambling without thinking that is enough for you. You can not deny what they want if you are drunk because they make you drink so many glasses or bottles. They will know that you still have money to spend on gambling games, and even if you lose your money, they will offer you to take a loan from them.

thats so desperate if what you were saying is true but i feel no . a casino offer drinks or bonus but they dont do it on a forced manner like its obvious for you to see it  .  they wont offer strong alcoholic drinks but those are just light wines like what we saw on formal ocassions . if players got drunk , players can do silly things and they dont like that to happen.  havent heard a casino that offers loan but thats risky because they can hire someone to beat you up once you cant paid on time , just like i see on movies

It actually proves my point

That many casinos are a law unto themselves. You wouldn't really be surprised to find out that a casino is oiling local police's palm, would you? I wouldn't, either. Anyway, you intuitively expect such things from these extremely shady operations. Legally speaking, it is the police who should do the investigations, and then a judge should order an arrest warrant. Indeed, there are different jurisdictions with different laws (as well as lack of any, while we are at it), but then we are back to square one, i.e. walk away from brick'n'mortar casinos and spare yourself a lot of trouble

We can read huge wins from slot machine but its rate to find high consecutive wins so the probability of people keep winning on slot machine is rare so we can't find those gamblers were kicked from casinos. ;)

Getting kicked in a casino would only happen if a gambler are caught cheating, it's very clear, you can cheat but don't get caught so you'll not pay the prize.

We all know that casinos are into profit, but there are also gamblers who are winning most of the time but I don't think casinos would not mind that as long as they'll be profitable in overall. When there are winners that means casinos are legit, they only win because of their advantage and that would attract gamblers as well.

Gambling casinos are like a house of prey once inside they want you to shelve out cash, they make feel very special, and because of that you are obliged to play and to shelve out, you won't even notice that you are already losing a lot of money, because they provide you with everything including loan shark and credit line.

You'll know when you are losing when you are borrowing money already and those loan shark won't lend money to a gambler if it's not regular or does not have a collateral, what you are talking is another level already. For most gamblers, all they want is just to have fun and win, but they know that winning is just a bonus as most of the time when gamblers are into a casino, they lose all their money.

The security service may find that the dealer deliberately lets a particular player win. This will be recorded by surveillance cameras. Various adaptations can be found.
Casino employees will call the police, provide them with video footage, physical evidence, and witness statements.
If collusion fraud took place, wouldn't that be enough for a conviction?

They will not have a forced manner to the gamblers, but they will use a smooth way without any hard feeling anything. The casino knows how to treat the rich gamblers, so they don't decide to stop quickly, but they will only spend more money to play other gambling games. Maybe they will also offer a girl to that rich person to join with them or sit beside them because the casino will do anything to make that person comfortable with their services.

And who is to decide on what constitutes a conviction and what not, criminal or otherwise?

Right, it is the task for a court of law in any conventional jurisdiction. So it may or may not be enough, but no matter the circumstances and evidence, neither the casino nor the police can convict anyone on their own (unless we are in some dystopian future where "I'm the law"). Technically, in many jurisdictions police can give you a warning without going to court if you admit an offence, or impose a fine on you, which you are entitled to challenge before a court of law by claiming, for example, you were forced to make and sign the statement (or just want to throw a Hail Mary)

I guess they are refusing certain people to avoid losing too much to them. Well, this will be somewhat justified if they are doing thesame to people who are vulnerable to taking big risk and losing hugh part of their weekly/monthly earnings to their casinos.
They seem to love themselves more

Only a court can convict a person, of course. However, the police or Prosecutor's office can evaluate the evidence and decide whether to open a criminal case. And whether there is enough evidence for a conviction.

Casinos will start noticing if you are winning in a streak on luck-based game and if you are cheating then it won't take too long to identify it from their side.But chances of cheating in luck based game is less to none that is why gambling sites are in profits for their lifetime.

Yes, it was sensationalised here in the Philippines when that news came out and if I'm not mistaken, that casino is Resorts World Manila, one of the big three here. 5 Mil PHP is already a big amount that those group try to milk the casino itself. Haven't heard what happened to that group, but I would certainly say that those people are going behind bars for what they did to the casino itself.

And this basically leaves out the casino

Which was the entire point. To sum it up, they can't arrest, convict, or punish anyone on their own (other than by firing them). All a casino can do is report on an employee who they think colluded with the gamblers. Indeed, this is only applicable to legal establishments as your adventures in an illegal one can end with a very different outcome (pun intended), both as a player and as a dealer (if it comes to that)

We only talk about legal casinos and only about legal methods of punishment. Naturally, they will hand over the violator of the law to law enforcement agencies.
I'm afraid to even imagine what can be done with a cheater in an illegal casino. Perhaps he will never be able to deceive anyone again)

They can't arrest anyone

And thus they can't "hand over" anyone either. If they try to pull off that thing, they may end up a violator even if the fact of the collusion gets confirmed in the court. So, as long as we are talking about legal methods, all they can do is call the cops. And this is what (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlY9C6pzxKc) happens when you call the cops in America

I don't know how it works in America. In my country, if you see a crime committed, you call the cops. And you have the right not to let the criminal out of your establishment. In addition, you have a special security service for this purpose.
If you believe that the casino does not have the right to restrict the movement of a criminal - let it be so. They know the dealer's name, they know his social security number and residential address. They have a recording of his crime on the cameras, there are witnesses. They can just give all this information to the police.

This is likely the best course of action in almost any circumstances

You never know what's actually going on in a situation that you are a casual witness of. The point is, you may end up involved in the crime if you try to take justice into your own hands as had been the case with your example until you changed your stance. So if you call the cops and they do nothing, it is their problem from now on. If you don't, you may become complicit through negligence, i.e. not reporting

This is how any adequate business behaves.

It is important for business to sell you its services. It does not matter whether it is a casino or a restaurant or a clothing store. All of them are united by one goal - to sell you services.
The more you are within their environment, the higher the chance that you will spend more money.

You, in turn, allow yourself to be there only on condition that you will be comfortable. This is what any business should do - create comfort for its customers.
Casinos in these things have gone much further than some areas of ordinary business and they have something to learn.

This is probably the most dangerous aspect of all of this, even if you are cautious enough to not bring a lot of money to the casino you can take loans there which means that a person that is completely intoxicated and that has lost control of his betting could easily lose all what he has if he is not careful, while I have not seen people losing as much money I have seen many times people that came to the casino after being paid on their job and lose all of it and now they had to explain to their wives they lost their money and figure out how to pay for the expenses of the month.

If you dont like to experience to consequences then you should be at least aware nor sensible towards into your action because after enjoying to gamble and when you lost it all and used the money which are intended for living or other expenses and if you are a family man then your surely be fucked up when you get home by your wife since you have spend it all and also what would you eat for the entire month if the budget allocated had already been spent? Actions should really be done carefully but doesnt mean that you have no rights to play thought but be sure that everything is under control.
Casinos of course would do all sorts of things for them to let their players stay longer into the site and suck up money all they do had in the end of the day.

If you are a responsible gambler, you will separate first the funds for your basic necessities.
Make sure that you can't get it if in case you need more money for your gambling.
Or just simply pay all the bills first and give the money for your monthly budget.
So you are practically safe once you are inside the casino, as you know the money in your hand is ready to be spent and be lost.
As a gambler, you already know that once inside the casino, all your money is deemed to be lost.

Perfectly said. It's a business and the goal is to keep you inside and continue patronizing them, they'll give you special treatments making sure that you'll going to keep coming back.

And that's where their business will earned a lot from you, the more you spend the more they'll collect and bank profits.

The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

Unless you have like millions to spend with casinos, of course, they will treat you like royalty, LOL. And that is the job of the staff, make you feel comfortable, very friendly, giving you free drinks and food, but behind they are laughing their ass off because you have been suckered by the system already. You will only feel like going home when your pockets are already empty.  ;D

That is absolutely right. As users, we will not move to any place if we can find a comfort zone, and we will stay for a long time without wanting to leave the place. When the user can get their comfortable, that is a guarantee to any business that their product or services will always be at the top in their eyes. Not many of the business field which can give comfort to their users instead disappointed the user itself, which can lead them to leave as soon as possible.


That is what will happen if someone loses control of himself, and he will end without any money left. We need to stop as soon as possible if we are almost run out of the money so that we can leave the gambling place in the right time, and we don't have to take loans in that gambling place. When we take loans, that will be like a time bomb for us to end sooner or later, and we will not making money. If they don't want to think about the negative side that they can get, they will not realize that the money will be worth and useful if they give to their family, so their family can use it to buy the daily needs than to play gambling.

It's just a good casino, man. This is their job so that you can comfortably spend your money and enjoy the game. Time flies in the casino. That is why it is much more pleasant to play in a regular casino than in an online casino.

It's a job that raking them good money, so they will do everything on their power to put everyone as comfortable as you can get inside a casino, specially a good and well-known land base casinos. And this is what gamblers wanted to see and feel when they are inside, the atmosphere and the sounds of slot machine, people shouting when they hit big. But at the end of the day, you could be losing money in exchange of this experiences.

More time you spend then more money you are going to spend, this is just the tactics of casinos.Maybe you actually don't want to spend that much time and money there but you did just because you feel something relaxed.Who knows meanwhile you are going to spend everything what you had in that case online casino is way better because we may not spend much time and also we don't feel guilty about betting with small money.

Not at all because some gamblers doesnt really think of that way which they are already accepting their fate to lost up but rather they are somewhat got pumped and believing that they can make big money out of those
funds that they do had into their pocket.Its really just sensible thing to be done for us who do think of most when it comes to responsibilities but there are people who do let themselves go along into their addiction
and made out foolish decisions like this one and its not really that rare to happen but quite common to be seen for some who got involved on gambling.Everything should really be undercontrol but
due to greed and addicted they do lost track on the path they should take.

Exactly. Many people leave a lot of money there and therefore they want to be treated as benefactors. Of course, everyone understands that these smiles are artificial and goodwill is feigned, but in such an atmosphere it is much more pleasant to play than when everyone is sullen and angry.


This is the reason why I always take the amount of money I am willing to spend at the casino and not a cent more. I advise my friends to do the same.

We might not have a chance to win if we spend more time playing gambling, but we have a big opportunity to lose money. We need to realize that we are better to take a break and stop gambling for a while if we already lose some money because that means we will run out of the money without a chance to recover the money. Playing in online gambling will make us forget about how long we already play games. And only we who can control how long we should play online gambling, so we don't have to lose much money.

The simple thing to do is to "stay disciplined", when you have a limit, you need to strictly follow it, whether you win or lose.

Not, if you have the discipline, and this is what gamblers should learn as the reality will happen which is the longer we gamble, the lesser our chance of winning has become. I'm not saying this based on what I read, but also based on what I experienced as a gambler.

yeah the ambiance  is really priceless thats why i really wanted to play in real casino ever since.

though sometimes i am losing my mood specially when the pandemic started and i have no chance to go in those places .

So the ending?now i only play Online and having no plan on going to any of these casino houses unless the cure for Covid19 already in market.

Let's see how the opening of a casino in Las Vegas will affect the situation. I draw conclusions based on my country. We have a lot of people on the streets now without masks and no one is afraid of anything)
I hope the vaccine will be ready soon. And all of us will be able to enjoy the atmosphere of a real casino without fear of getting sick.

Right. However, in the case of the casino, we do not have a situation - Win\Win. Although everything always depends on the person.
Casino, if I may say so, gives emotions in exchange for money, with the opportunity to win money.
But most people go to the casino and spend the money that they need there, which causes them to be very frustrated, leaving them with the feeling of losing.

The chances of stay long on a gambling platform has two side effect, is either the gambler win or lose out his or her games. But, here is a typical exampl, a gambler who was by play long and steadfast got a huge profits from the gamble. Here is the thread:  1.1 BTC in 35 Days on Sportsbet.io  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260317.0) as the thread said, he gamble one month and three days to achieve some fantastic reward. So, stay long could either help the gambler gain profit or lose.

It is good when a person understands what casinos are for. That these are the best recipients of money in exchange for emotions. Many people perceive casinos as an opportunity to earn money on a regular basis, and it is they who most often have problems related to spending a large amount of money and gambling addiction.

Staying discipline is difficult, and I guess many gamblers have that experience. I am sure that we can remain disciplined in the first 30 minutes, but after we play more about 30 minutes, I don't think that we still have discipline because the tension and the pressure will be there. Only a few gamblers can still have discipline on their plan, and perhaps, pro gamblers will still have control although they play gambling for a long time.


That two side effects will always be on every gambler, and the gambler should know what he needs to choose. If that gambler can win much money, that is because he has luck at the right time that can help him to get huge money. Only you will decide how long you will stay on the gambling games, and before you choose, you better know what the consequence is.

I wonder if they will continue to treat customers very nicely if lots of them are successful/profitable bettors. I guess they will not be bothered if it's purely PVP kind of game. They just get parts of the winners profits whether they are good or not

Players who cannot be disciplined during the game, as well as can't keep calm and stop in time - no place in gambling. Such people are at great risk of losing all their money, as well as becoming addicted to gambling.

Yeah I agree, going to onsite casinos is all about the atmosphere and flair. For me it's more about having a good time than actually winning big - I prefer games like poker and black jack. The upsite is fairly limited if you only play a few hours. Sure you can have a good streak but in the end I just end up spending most of the money for a 5 star dinner and a some expensive drinks. Playing online in a casino however it's more about winning. I am focusing more on my bankroll and always try to save some winnings. It's hard to compare playing online in your living room to being on a huge gambling floor with many people around you having a good time.

You have clearly noticed the difference between online casinos and regular casinos. Really playing people in online casinos want to earn more than to relax and unwind. I hadn't noticed it before.
Perhaps when online casinos start using virtual reality glasses, they will be able to convey the atmosphere of a real casino.

Gambling is all about discipline and control and if people cannot do this then there is a high risk of they getting addicted in the future. For people who play occasionally or just for fun will be able to control as they may not play juts to earn money from it but for other is highly important that they learn to control their instinct and gambling daily.

These are the right words. Unfortunately not all people can control themselves in gambling and perhaps we will soon come to the point that in most civilized countries people will be forced to limit their games in casinos. For example, as it is now done in Finland, where they have introduced restrictions on the amount of money that can be lost by a person in a casino.

Your discipline can counter the tricks of the gambling house, gamblers who understand the nature of this business
knew when to quit both when already achieving good profits or already losing decent
amount of money from his pocket, even there's a lots of tricks to entice you to keep on
playing if you have good discipline you will go out without losing a huge amount
of money.

Right. Because they are initially dependent on their money that they carry in casinos.


If you delve even deeper, we will find the roots of the problem in that people cannot and cannot control their thoughts and emotions. Everything inside them happens spontaneously.

It is this lack of control that leads to a lack of control in all other areas of life, no matter whether it is gambling, drinking or the constant expression of negative emotions.
It is always necessary to start with simple things within us, because without the control of the small, we cannot control the large.

All casinos play on the absence of control.

Discipline has been studying for years. This is the most difficult skill to acquire, because it is based on willpower.
The casino plays on our weaknesses, on our desires. The best casino will do so that we succumb to all our desires as often as possible in this its essence.
Only discipline can save you from this, but for this you need to become a truly professional, a similar path is not for everyone. We are too emotional "animals."

I dont know if i would agree that we are emotional animals.  ;D

But i do hardly agree on the fact that have you said that discipline will be easily be put up if we do really have that will power which can really be obtained if we do have somewhat experience
into this thing because you wouldnt know if you havent tried it in the past.

Of course they will do all sorts of things for you to stay and thats their primary motive since from the beginning.

So no matter what, the discipline is the important thing that we need to have in gambling. Such people will not realize even if they play longer because they don't think that discipline will help them to keep their money. That will be worst if they become addicted because if they get addicted, they will only want to play more and more, and don't stop if their money is gone.


Somehow, the casino will find out our weakness. They will give something that can tempt us to stay longer and back to the games so that we can spend more money. That means they will make more money from us. The discipline will save us from the loss of all of the money, so we can stop the game and leave the casino.

Yeah you have a very good share OP. It make sense now that online gambling platforms are worth it than having the physical Casino. It has really disadvantage on the contrary online casino had made it possible and easy for the gamblers to enjoy at the same time to remain anonymous as online casino were being design like this.

Besides, If one goes to casino pretty sure one can loss money a lot but with online games one can spend little by little depending on how you want to play since you have the control over your bet and most of gambling platform had no minimum bet even cents could dovin betting.

Pretty controversial moment. When you go to a physical casino you have a certain amount of money on hand, after losing that you will either have to go for a new amount or stop the game.

When you play in an online casino, all your money is with you, and in theory you can gamble until you spend it all. Being at home is too great a temptation to recoup, and making a deposit will take all a couple of minutes.

It's almost the same, and it's just really up to you.

Even if you are not in a land based casino and you are just gambling at home, you can still lose millions of dollars if have access to your bank account.

When you play alone, that's where you will easily get tempted especially if you don't have the discipline, but if you are in a casino, at least some people might be watching you and can give you some advise.

I doubt if people from casinos or even your companion will be able to stop you once you are in the zone of gambling. Our emotion, especially greed when it comes over while gambling, even if you have self-discipline you will always convince your self to play more or even put your hope in luck to win more or to chase your losses. Once you entered the casino it is either you go home with some winning or go home penny less.

It might not or it might help you, at least there's someone that would tell you to stop, unlike when you are just gambling alone where you can do everything you want without consulting others or getting their suggestions.



Based on your statement, there's no self-discipline anymore, because if there's a self discipline, you would not do some stupid things that would only result to bigger problem, self-discipline will make you stop not matter what.

They will, they are workers and it's part of their job to treat each of their customers nicely. That's one feeling why many still want to go back there because they are treated very well like a VIP. The feeling of being special is very considerate whenever you have been there.
You'll always think of getting back there whether you win or not, as usual if you win, you'll be wanting to get back there because you're thinking of winning back again.

I like the opinion of Stanford Robert Sapolsky regarding our background and features.   :)

Discipline is not something that can be acquired easily. If you have 1 inch of will today, then when you train it tomorrow you will get 2 inches, then 3 and so on.
Discipline is one of the most difficult things because you have to learn not to do what you are used to doing, and our habits hold us very hard.
Although difficult, it is possible. It all depends on what goal you are pursuing, and how you are willing to pay for its achievement.

Many qualities you need to possess in order not to become dependent on gambling. This is of course the same discipline and calmness and the ability to limit yourself. Also, the main thing in gambling is to understand that you can't constantly try to earn money from gambling. Everything is arranged so that for a long distance, players lose the casino.

It is better to keep in mind the idea that you can’t earn money at all in gambling, and the win that you have is a fluke, an accidental reward for your labors.
The realization that casinos are designed in such a way that you lose in the long run can help people to be more conscious about what happens to them during games.
But people, as a rule, become aware of their situation after everything has happened, for example, after a big loss, a person “wakes up” and realizes that he was like in a dream.
The job of a casino is to lull a person so that he plays without stopping.

We need to search for another way to make money, so we don't depend on gambling, as you say. Gambling will only for having fun and enjoy every game inside the website or casino places, but there is a limit that every gambler should have. We should not spend more money to make money from gambling because we don't have more chances to get it. Perhaps, only gamblers who can control themselves and skills that can be a pro gambler and succeed from gambling.

We define gambling based on our ability, if we are not that good in gambling where we can't make a living to it, then better look for a job and just treat gambling as fun, however, it's a different story for people who have skills in gambling as they can be a professional gambling and they can rely on gambling as their means of living, it's very rare to see that but it's possible.

Yeah online casinos have both advantages as well as disadvantages so it all depends on the people who is handling their emotions while gambling online.That is why we should avoid chasing our losses whether it is physical or online casino or we will lose more money.

But when we are in physical casino we will return back to home at some point but while playing we can bet 24/7 so chance for more addiction.

Would have been ok if those they get to stay longer are benefitting positively while spending their time on games. The benefit should be mutual, and not one way thing or just for the casinos. This is one of the reasons I think most games should be redesign in such a way that the players benefit positively while spending longer time than is necessary on them

As I suspect, physical casinos are actually more dangerous in this regard

The harsh truth is, you can lose more in a land-based casino. In fact, you can lose all that can be potentially lost. Basically, you assume that you can't lose more money than you have with you. But that's not necessarily the case as no one can stop you from borrowing money right in there

Somehow, I have an intuition you won't have any problems with taking a loan in a brick&mortar casino, at least as long as you have some property to be used as a collateral for it. And here things get more onerous and tragic than with online gambling as with the latter you can only lose your money, not your house or anything to that effect

I think that most people who gamble in casinos for the purpose of earning money understand that the advantage is on the side of the casino. However, they are convinced that they can win at the casino. Perhaps they have some game strategies, ways and methods that players mistakenly rely on. There are very few people who don't know the truth about casinos.


Nicely said. It is when you play for fun that it is especially nice to win and leave the casino with more money than you came in.

Not really,,, some offline casinos give a line of credit to their regular customers, either formally through electronic card which I have seen,,, or informally where the guy busts and asks if he can "borrow" a bit. Double owed or nothing. That is worse than crypto casinos which give you zero credit.

Yes, possibly the worst thing always happen in casino. Owing usually happen but of course it come also with collateral like car bikes or cellphone. This is how I always seen in the offline casino.

Preferrably online casino would be a better choice. Onlinen casino provide more fun and a better way of betting away from fraud near you in the offline casino.

Unfortunately those that have lost control of themselves do not have a way to exercise their will into their actions anymore, and when you add special circumstances like being under the influence of alcohol or losing so much money to the casino that you fell like you deserve to get your money back, then it is not weird to find out this happens to many people all over the world so even the strategy that you bring of giving your money to someone else to try to protect it will not work as an addicted gambler will get a loan just to keep gambling.

nice share but nothing new casinos track everyting to make more money

We cannot know for sure. Millions of people play casinos, and we don’t know what each of them thinks about the casino, our selection is too small.
Some of my acquaintances, some until recently, thought that playing roulette betting on a red or black chance of winning 50 \ 50.
I am sure that everyone guesses that something is wrong with the casino, but far from everyone realizes and thinks about it.

We will always suggest searching for another job to make money because gambling is not the way to make money. If there are people who can make money from gambling, I am sure they have another thing that helps them to be able to make money. We cannot follow their step because it will be too difficult for us to learn every step they have to make money from gambling. Some of them can be professional gamblers who can live from playing gambling, and they can make money from gambling. But the number of them are not too big because the other gambler will not have that chance to make money.

Of course, we don't know what all the people who have ever played in a casino think. Personally, I make my conclusions based on the opinions of my friends and acquaintances. They all understand that the business of casino owners is based on the fact that the casino wins much more often than the players. This is why my friends and I never try to build our income based on casino gambling.
As for the chance of getting red or black in roulette, many people do not know that it is not 50/50.

It should be and must have always in mind when you do deal up with things rather than forcing this gambling activity as a main source of income will surely fucked you up along the way.

Lots of perception or beliefs will really push you hard to play since you do know the odds into your mind then its just normal for you to act or trying to enforce it.

Houses will surely do all lots of stuff for them to retain out their players on longest time as possible until they do put up a hole into their pockets in the end of the day.

That's the main goal of casinos, to rekt the players as much as they can. They even offer loans just for the player to go on. So if the player is not smart enough and just go with the flow, he will find himself in deep trouble even before he goes out of the casino. As a gambler, you should know your limits before you go inside. Don't be tempted with offers and other bonuses because that's their job, to keep the player as much as possible.

You said it right, this is a gambling business where the house needs to be profitable so they can operate the business continuously.

I've seen that most in movies but actually I have no idea what are the terms or anything related on why and how casino would offer a loan to its gambler.
There are loan sharks in a casino AFAIK, but are these people work with the casinos directly or they could be a separate entity? Either way, I don't think they would just easily lend a gambler without knowing the capacity to pay, so if a typical gambler plays in a casino, and lose and try to borrow, he can't expect to get approved.

As for me, I'm just lucky that I gamble at home most of the time, or... I think all the time.  ;D

I've heard before that there are loan sharks operating on casinos. Their target are those big time players who are losing. They let the player borrow huge amount of money in exchange of their cars, property's, etc. I've read that its a 2 percent per day interest in one of the casinos in my country, its really illegal and a problem for the authority. It will make the borrower really lose all his belongings if he will continue to lose.

I think, the casinos knew it, they are part of it, and they already knew who will be the person before they let them borrow a huge amount, they will be the one to offer so I guess they will get ID or just like what I've said before, any belongings the gambler can give for the borrowed money.

2 percent per day interest? That means 730% interest per year. Is that much even allowed legally? In my country, there is an upper limit on the interest level that you can charge. If I am not wrong, it is around 18% per year. If the interest rate is above that level, then you can't legally create a loan agreement and even if you create one, it won't be valid in the courts.

Personally, I don't think this is a viable business model

Casinos are interested in a sustainable cash flow, first and foremost, and that means retaining their customers (as the poster you replied to hinted at). I don't think you are going to come back after having been rekt. Therefore, casinos are not in fact interested in you losing all your money. Instead, they are interested in you receiving satisfaction in exchange for your precious shekels, as any other legit business out there

In fact, when I play in a casino, I never count the chances of winning. Beer and beautiful butt girls do not give time to think about it.  ;D I understand that my chances of winning at the casino are very small. That's enough.
Of course, there is an opportunity to win. It is necessary for us to play in the casino, but the percentage of winnings is much less than the percentage of losses.

Gambling do always mean on losing your money in the end thats why it is just a good mindset for you to have that you already anticipate that you do lose all of your funds in the end of the day.

which would really make you not frustrated in the end of the line because you are already expecting it and i do agree on what you had said that i did love those beer and beautiful butt girls when

i do come to these places.

I quoted these points, as I find it quite biased to the side of casino always winning. Casinos not having clocks and doors might really affect the psychological thinking of a gambler to spend more time in gambling thus, we should be more aware of the situation before we enter a casino. I don't believe that you should likely spend more time in order to cash out, as it takes your rights to decide if they will push you to play more before allowing you to cash out your funds. If some casinos are like that, I would rather choose another casino. But thinking about it logically, you cash in to play, so why to cash it out without even playing? That is for emergency reasons whenever you need to leave. Lastly, Casinos actually have a personnel who will guide you through the casino, if ever you can't find the exit, you can always ask them because it is their job to walk you through.

Well tips and tricks are well known, if you ever watched brain games on national geography you could see that how can someone play with our minds on some levels. Just that games are games, strong character always wins in the end, as you said who wish to find exist will ask, who wish to cash out will do that anyway, nothing can stop them.
These tricks are for big casinos in big cities, for example the biggest casino in my town is not so big at all, they can't put a maze there, from every spot in that casino you see the exit!

Managing your expectation in gambling is very important. But it all breaks down to what you want to do. If you want to spend a hole evening and try to have fun, it's likely you will lose your funds. But if you want to make money there are decent chances. Like this one guy a long time a go who sold his house just to bet everything (I think it was $150k) on one roulette spins. The odds of close to 50% are fairly okay for a one time try to double up, or lose everything. For making money I would always prefer higher risks and just hope to be lucky. With following a system for the hole night I always end up losing.

Indeed, it's all about expectations and how you manage to escalate everything. If you have strategy or you are just playing for fun.


If you know how to control there's a decent chance to win, it's mostly about how you deal with your stay.


Result is just between winning or losing, it's how you accept everything and willing to take the risk.


That's the case, as you can also try using other strategy and check the chance to win.

hahaha,you made me smile there lol,Because i can feel you when i am playing those beautiful girl and their Butts and Boobs took my attention sometimes it distracts me from my betting strategy lol.
great Out view seems like you gamble for fun most of the time and not just to win at all?
Winning is part of Gambling but if we will only focus on this part then maybe failure is what we mostly got,Better enjoy the game and just let the winning flows.

Hahaha, the girls will always distract our attention and make us can not focus on the games. Maybe the girl is hired by the owner to give another pleasure to the customer, and yes, they did that ;D


If you can focus, it doesn't give you much chance if you don't have luck. You can hope that when you can focus on the game, your luck will come to you to win the game.

That's a huge interest charge on a daily basis, but I am not sure if its illegal because no one could arrest a lender even if they offer a high interest rate since they are not forcing a person to borrow the money, they are just taking advantage but lending money instantly comes with a huge risk also, so it's justifiable to give that rate, in the end it's up to the borrower if he will take it.


Like you said in above post, "their target are big time players" so they definitely know the gambler well before they release the money.

You correctly noticed when you said that I have no illusions when going to the casino. When I go to gamble I understand that I will most likely lose my money, so I do not get upset when this happens. And when I win (which is rare), I am doubly happy)

But setting your mind as well on positivity will improve how you play and I guess it's better we have both; we may win or we may lose that's gambling literally.

Though most really of the time it's not lucky as it seems but as what others say "gamble/trade what you can afford to lose".

If we have the right knowledge about gambling then we can easily reduce the risk but before that we have to think positively keeping our mindset right Negative puts everything at a loss I also believe that gambling depends on luck but don't despair even if you face losses. Because only if we make a mistake can we move on to the next step.

Also in some games customers get the opportunity to bet directly against each other and the casino house takes some commission from here. This is called rack In addition various offers are offered by the casino to keep the customers interested That's why it's so easy to make a profit.

I agree, casinos are like any business, would you return to a restaurant that you know is ripping you off? The answer is obviously no and soon enough that restaurant will go out of business as it gets a bad reputation, and the same is true for casinos, most of the profits of casinos comes from repeat customers, obviously they want to beat the player but not so much that he gets frustrated and vows to never come back, in fact it is in the best interests of casinos that some players win from time to time so they can tell their stories of their good nights in the casino and bring even more players.

I have long noticed that everything is better done with a good mood. It works much better this way.
I don't understand why I should go to a casino and feel sad about losing money. After all, you lose money, roughly speaking, pay for the game, drink and atmosphere, and you still lose a good mood.

There's definitely a certain optimum point on the profit-generating curve

For simplicity's sake, we could basically agree that this curve takes the form of house edge values as a variable. If the house edge is, say, 5%, this is an onerous rip-off indeed. However, making it too low, e.g. below 0.5% would (allegedly) hurt the casino's profits without a sufficient increase in their client base (whether it is actually true remains to be seen, though). So, the house edge went down over the years to some optimal value established experimentally, which seems to be around 1%, with some options like rakeback pushing it even lower

mode only detemine by the things that trigger it and not just by deciding to be in good even things go bad. I do not know how you made a conclusion for that but I guess that you have master your mode by yourself or probably you just don't know how feelings being made. Anyway, i just thought also that you know how to motivate yourself when things go wrong. But this is not all about mode instead it is all about motivation.

Casino are creates for the purpose and fun with excitement through betting. This should always be on their logo to keep all the users aware that they are just there to make some fun socializing with other users.

It's simple. When you go to a bar you know that you will spend money there. In return, you will get good emotions from socializing with friends and drinking. I go to the casino the same way. However, in the casino, I still have a chance that the "bartender" will return my money and in a larger amount than I gave him)

That is how a professional gambler might think but frankly speaking no matter how many times you have lost and you know that you will end up in loss, there is always a feeling like today I am going to walk out as winner and that is what makes you enter a casino. It is right that one is basically paying the fees to casino to entertain them and have fun but at the same time it is not so easy to shrug off the loss you had.

Not everyone is well versed with casinos and players would always feel unhappy with they loose no matter if they already knew it. It is like you are addicted to drugs and you know that once you take them you will have fun for a little while but eventually you gonna loose (health in case of drugs)  but you still do it.

Very clever explanation, I think that's only good if you have the discipline, otherwise you are not going to enjoy if you get addicted or you were too emotional that led you to gamble all your money, this is the risk why some can't see it as a way to socialize with people, its just too risky.

what kind of bar ? not all bars need money but some are free and not all times your the one that spend money but your friends too  . a casino is different , you go on it for different purpose  and why will you expect that a bartender will give you a return for your tip ? lol i find it funny sorry  . they are poor too and wont likely gamble and they wont be allowed to gamble even if they wanted too because their only purpose is to work on that establishment . tip real gamblers instead because those were the one that will gave you a good return when they win

That's the point, if you have good mindsets and you are willing to take what it takes, accepting that the money that you are going to use
are already considered as gone before you even started the stress is much lesser, you can keep moving forward
as you are only aiming to enjoy while inside the casino.

The point that you are eager to win and worrying to lose is due to this emotions
it's stressing you especially when greed comes your way and start moving you
from how it wanted you to proceed. End point, losing without enjoying.

There are no free bars, maybe you can enter for free but you will still have to pay for drinks one way or the other. Being a night out in a bar without spending any money doesn't seem very realistic. In a casino however the money is made through gambling, so offering free drinks is alright for the casino as they will earn their money back another way.

You're wrong, I'm not a professional gambler. I just understand the essence of the casino and have no illusions about earning money from playing at the casino.


I used to only take a certain amount of money at the casino. Now I have the nerve not to spend more than I planned, even with a full wallet.

i've read about most of these tricks. however, i prefer online casinos mostly because of convenience

Dude, you don't understand humor. In my example, I compared a casino to a bar where you can have a drink with friends. Some casinos give out booze and you pay for it by placing bets. Therefore, a comparison with a bar in a joking form can be made)

The problem with spending money to have fun in casinos (rather than being profitable) is that it can become habitual if you don't have any place to have thesame level of fun. It becomes a disaster spending alot of money and time in casino just to have fun... this is basically what betting/gaming addiction is... you keep losing money and refuse to quit due to the fun. Now imagine you're having the  fun while being consistently profitable in your bets/games, that will be tolerable

This year I think it would continue to be online itself, as the cases have not stopped and still continue to rise leading to fear among people to just go out and gamble in the casinos. Though you can wear mask, maintain physical distance but when it can be done online at your ease people may prefer that for the time being before everything gets normal and casinos would work the full fledge. Also, tricks this could be done in online as well in the casinos as well with the machines which we may not know about it.

I wouldn't call that fun

Rather, it looks more like a rush (as in getting high from drugs or weed). When you are losing money and start to chase losses, this can hardly be construed as fun anymore. And that should be used as a fine line to distinguish between real entertainment and when it turns into an obsession (read, you mustn't cross it)

Not every casino will give you such a loan. Where are the guarantees that you will return them? Obviously, such services will be provided only to VIP customers who have been using casino services for a very long time.
The casino will make a loan only if it is sure that the client still has money, somewhere else. But this kind of customer rarely runs out of money.
People are often in a desperate state in a casino, which means borrowing money to such people is an extremely high risk, which would involve a very small number of casinos.
An “unofficial” loan from a security guard or casino employee is likely, but the question is how much is safe.

Well I guess something that makes one happy, or gives enjoyment can be considered fun. That's basically what alot of games or casinos give their customers. This is why some or many get hooked for a long time to keep enjoying the games even though they may not be profitable.    The problem with this is that if those kinds of games aren't developing people the right way, or making them to be profitable/productive, they become problems...one of the problems this casuses is addiction.

actually they are Blinding players with more fun and freebies just to stay focus in gambling and soon become addicted.
Thats why we must always  consider checking our self first before engaging in gambling because for sure?you will be addicted if not ready on what will be the outcome.

Drugs can also make one happy

Even though the effect wouldn't be lasting, and in the end you will have to continually use them just to feel more or less normal again. Would you call it fun? I guess, no. In this fashion, we can't consider being high as being happy or offering true enjoyment. Yes, casinos can offer fun and enjoyment but that depends on you and your attitudes. Put shortly, when you get hooked, it is no longer fun

If the casino can make their customers happy and satisfy, that means, the casino succeeds to bring pleasure to their customers, and they will come again and again.
Yes, many people become hooked because of the services from the casino, and sooner or later, that person will become addicted to gambling, and he will always gamble in that casino.
Gambling will not make them productive or profitable, but maybe that will work for a few people who got luck from playing gambling.
And when that person becomes addicted, it will be too late for them to leave the casino unless they have somebody else who can help them to get out of the casino.

What more likely to happen is most physical casino will get web developers to design their own online casino, money would not be a problem for them as they don't pay electricity that much these past months. So I think there will be more of competition among these casino to attract players, more bonuses and more promotions to expect. Gambling won't stop.

New normal may do but that does not avoid them from the virus, virus can easily attach to surfaces, they are playing cards or slots there are still a high chance of them getting the virus from any thing in physical casino.

I agree with you. You can be kicked out of the casino even if you play fair but you are lucky to win. Just like reinsurance. After all, it is not known how you manage to do this, maybe you are cheating, and maybe you are just lucky, but there are no guarantees. If at least something is suspicious, they can easily expel you, and even deprive them of money. Often, you’ll be allowed to withdraw money anyway, but they won’t let you in at the casino.

That may actually be the next project of these physical casinos, create their own online sites and setting up/managing it would not be hard on their end. So yes, online gambling will boom in no time. They can get their players easily as they already have their own patrons so they will just send a message to these loyal patrons that they have online site and they are on the way.

However, this is a rather laborious process. Just as when moving from one place to another, we risk losing some things, so when moving customers offline to online there is a risk that they will be lost. When a large casino announces the creation of an online cell, a lot of scam clones appear that will disorient and lure some customers to themselves. And given that the level of preparation for working with web applications is different for everyone, the percentage of trapped clients can be quite high.

I don't think most people will be trapped into clone sites if the casinos create their official online site and invite everyone from their physical casino itself but it is not going to happen in near future so there people might already moved to fiat or crypto online gambling sites to tackle lockdown boredom.

Not really because the clone site can look like the original site that can make them confusing to play gambling.
I think online gambling is already booming because I see in some advertisement which promoting the gambling website, but I think that the gambling website is accepting fiat.
But I think the crypto gambling website already appears in some advertisement, so that can make people curious, and they can join because crypto is a new thing for them.
When there is more advertisement about crypto gambling or fiat gambling, people will be excited to join because that will be entertainment for them in the lockdown or the new normal.

Dude, I don't go to the casino every weekend. I do it well if once every few months. Thank you for worrying about me. But I assure you, I am in control of the process and do not suffer from a casino addiction.

If the owner will announce it as official gaming site online, those regular offshore gamblers will surely follow it and begin to play inside.


Some of those gamers might already doing this to kill boresome, people who really loves playing will find it ways to continue to gamble.

I don't really find any crypto gambling related ads on social media or Youtube like platforms from the official ads only I had seen poker sites and apps on various youtube ads that is why I said people already moved to online casinos with fiat so physical casnios will take time to establish their online community and get advertise them.

There's no problem for establishing there casino online if they have existing users on physical world since everything will follow once their past user settled and knows them very well it just they need to promote them self to gather new players but I don't think it will take look especially if they offer good bonuses and promotions to their gamblers.

I disagree, if you don't bookmark your favorite online casinos, and just used Google to search or type it, chances are you might end on a clone site that looks like exactly the same as the legit one. There are people who fall for this one and hackers or criminals are really that good creating this fake site with attacks like typo squatting and puny code attacks.

So everyone should be very careful as online gaming is booming and so is the criminals targeting us. And gamblers should know how to protect our account as well and practice safe security.

I am always aware of new Online Casinos, it is preferable before playing in one of these casinos to ensure that it is a legal Casino and to take all possible security measures, hackers are always on the lookout.
I ask myself, don't antivirus protect us from these malicious websites?

https://www.businessinsider.com/casino-tricks-make-you-spend-money-2019-6

nice read about casinos

I don't say that the crypto gambling site is shown on social media or Youtube because I am sure that any gambling material will be banned in that site, and there is no chance for the gambling site to appear.
But if you browse on the other website, you will find some crypto gambling will show as the advertisement, so there is a chance for people to visit on the crypto gambling site.
There will be more crypto gambling sites that will appear because the site can promote on many websites, there is a chance for them to get more members.

This is about perspective, if you play a game with low house edge and you play the basic strategy then you can play there for a long time without losing too much money and yet get some perks like free drinks, as such the fun you get out of the casino is way higher than what you are paying for, however this makes several assumptions, you can play a gambling game with high enough skill and you can control your emotions when a bad streak happens and for the most part this is not true for most players and that is when the fun goes away very rapidly.

The chance that you will become more aggressive than you think, at first it's true that you can handle risk and you can continue enjoying your game.

But in some instances, there's still situations that losing streak will comes up and hit you much deeper, those who are really good in controlling emotion

can skip this but those who are not, expect to lose more than you think that you can let go.

I guess there could be nothing there in physical casino to decode because when you're seeing all their activities from their business point of view then you can understand their business model and we cannot do anything about them unless they are not breaching any of legal thing.

Probably the term "decode" is being used here with different sense like we can go for studying what a physical casino is doing to make their customers to be playing with them rather than just assuming like they are trying to deceive gambler for the sake of profit making. When a physical casino is being operated as per government law and then I guess we do not have anything to decode with them, right?

Casino regulars do exactly as you say. They are in no hurry to spend all their money. They make small bets, often move between tables, and drink free alcohol. In a word, they have fun spending their time.

Ofcourse.
I think it depends on whether what makes you happy is good or bad. That's why it's important we derived our happiness from good things alone. There are certain fruits and vegetables that lighten ones mood and create a happy feeling. Fruits/vegs are generally good for our bodies especially when consumed the right way.  They do other good things to our bodies beside creating that happy mood. Or they have more advantages than disadvantages/side-effects. The disadvantages are normally very little or very negligible

This is unlike lots of synthetic drugs and other bad things that create the happy feeling. They typically have more disadvantages than advantages, and most likely killing their users gradually.  They are bad.

Becoming a vegetarian was a big missed steak

I think we can make it even easier to see the difference between the good and the bad. The good is everything that makes you happy or at least happier in the long term (preferably, for lifetime). On the other hand, the bad is anything which undermines your long-term wellbeing (and happiness). In this way, drugs are bad even if they can make you happy for a while. Casinos (since we are talking about them here) can be both depending on our personal inclinations and attitudes. They can ruin one's life, but they can also make one happier for offering enjoyment and fun (with a bit of adrenaline)

Experienced and wise offshores gamblers really enjoy this perks with freebies while playing inside their favorite land based casinos.



If you do know how to control yourself then you are good to go enjoying your stay, but when something bad happened and you
are not good handling it, that will add risk to your bankroll. It's always best to keep in mind
that enjoyment will be filled up if you honestly can control yourself while inside the house.

If you look carefully, the game is not so free. You will not drink a lot of free drinks, and to play normally you will need to bet often. And no matter how much you save money, you will spend at least a few hundred. Only with experience can a person learn to reduce their spending on the game.

If you look globally, casinos can be attributed to bad things, because as you said, it ruins the lives of some people, and as we know most people are not successful in casino games. In addition, here you can add the fact that people who lose in a casino become temporarily unable to provide for themselves, their family, as well as pay for services and taxes, of course, everything depends on the degree of wealth of the individual. All this leads us to an even greater degree of deterioration of affairs locally around each individual, and globally between all of them within the framework of a separate state and, if you look above, the world. Add money laundering and other delights with which it is connected here, we will get a far from unambiguous result.

Google is now approving crypto related ads for sure even they approve crypto giveaway scam ads. >:( SO the gambling sites are not yet decided to promote them on Google I guess.And random banner ads on websites is really not secure, it might end up into a scam/clone site of legit ones so if someone wants to try gambling crypto site then they have to enter from search engine directly to the official website.

There are many things that destroy people's lives and do it very quickly. For example, if you become addicted to alcohol, you can stop being a normal person. Everything is good in moderation. You need to know this and strive for it. Many people have lost their property and families due to their addiction to casinos. However, this does not mean that the casinos should be closed and denied access to all people.

Well said, but it seems impossible to me. The casino must make a profit, it comes from the loss of players. If players win, the casino will not make a profit, which means that it will not be able to pay taxes, rent, staff, and so on. In this case, the entire casino system should be redesigned, say, into food delivery. In that case, everything wins, but then it will no longer be a casino.

That is right. Usually people would just ask why not just close casinos when there are a lot of people addicted to gambling. There are a lot of reasons for that but the main one is that it gives huge taxes to the government that they can use to improve or develop a country. Another thing is that they are always warned to do things moderately, to be responsible so they should not blame it on casinos.

The casino ^ Includes online casinos.
 I think it's possible. Games like dice could be resigned alittle to include very educational/beneficial/good materials. Maybe build the dice in an educational way and use it as a reward/incentive system to get players to learn and win random gifts while learning. This is one of few examples

It's easy to make a decision and ban something. However, you should keep in mind that if you ban official casinos, underground illegal casinos may soon start appearing.
An excellent example is the time of prohibition in the United States. Then, too, they tried to ban alcohol and we all know what it led to.

Taxes play a big role in such cases due to which government would not like to stop earning from it by not allowing the casinos to operate. It is upto every person to know their limits and contain themselves because there are many other things as well from which we can get addicted to it. But gambling is quite easy to get addicted because people look at it as an easy money-making machine.

In fact this is a way to distinguish an experimented gambler from someone that is not used to play at the casino, when I frequented physical casinos I noticed that those that were regulars there took a very slow approach to betting and were very methodical, why? Because they had no rush, they wanted to get the most out of their experience at the casino, but when you saw someone making big bets and moving from game to game at a fast speed more often than not it was someone inexperienced that thought that losing a lot of money at the casino in the fastest way possible was the way to get the most out of their casino experience.

all the rules, security strategies, player movements can certainly be watched closely in physical casinos so there is no cheating in gambling and also requires us to continue playing until our money is drained. In my opinion, if someone who is not accustomed to entering a gambling house or physical casino mentioned by Op to play, is the same as being trapped into the red zone must come into play and must have the courage to spend the money he has. except for newcomers who are looking for fun and entertainment with the situation and facilities available in it without hoping to go home with a victory

To be honest, this video is nothing special, and most of things mentioned are common sense, and not stuff that "casinos doesn't want you to know". Like it is obvious that there are bunch of camera in casinos, they don't hide that at all, and bunch of stuff are just generalizations, like high ATM fees or releasing lavander smell to relax the gamblers (honestly never experienced that and I visited quite a few casinos).

While I do like online casinos too and they do have some advantages (they usually have higher RTP), I still prefer brick&mortar ones, simply due the atmosphere there, it's more fun, especially if you are there with a couple of friends.

There are casino regulars who make big bets often and many times. They just have a lot of money and they can afford it. They also have a lot of alcohol in their veins and they decided to show that they are rich. I've seen people like that, too. They can easily lose a good new car in one night. However, most casino players do not bet much and try to stretch their bets for a longer period of time.

Well, if they really wanted to gamble I guess they will really find a way to do so. People should really manage the money they are spending especially if that is in gambling since casinos will be happier spending their money there. Some of the people here are even doing cockfighting outside arenas which is illegal here and since it is pandemic but people are srill doing it.

It’s not really about courage. When you come to a casino, you are not operating with money, but with chips that you receive in exchange for money.
This is done solely to make it easier for you to part with the chips. When you hold cash in your hands, you understand its value, when a chip is on the table, you treat it more leniently.

You have spoken well about the human need for gambling. If a person likes it and is used to this feeling, then even during the ban of games, as now due to the pandemic, they will look for a place to play. So it is very good that there is an online casino otherwise such people would have to play in underground casinos.

Indeed the scary fact of physical casinos is that they will do all kinds of ways so that we spend the money we have there.
And go home without bringing anything, then makes us more addicted and want to continue playing in the physical casinos
without us knowing.Unfortunately I realize this after losing all the money I have, for that reason I think online casinos are better.

They will really go beyond laws so that they could just gamble. I think this is the reason why other people are taking advantage of it and making places they could meet. I guess that is the reason why the government are just allowing casinos to function so that they could also get taxes from their vices.

This depends on how much you've won really.

You can still go home with your winnings  but if they knew you've won a lot, they would offer you lounges or rooms sometimes drinks to stall you in the casino or to get back some of it. This is just their tactics since at the end of the day, it is still business.

It's not just casinos giving free drinks, snacks and various other stuff to their high rollers to keep them playing, but high rollers themselves expect those kind of things, and if not given, they will see that a mistreating and might not wanna come back and move their "business" elsewhere.

I experienced that many times when working in casinos, gamblers explicitly asking for more drinks, and even getting violent if you refuse.

Smart governments understand that banning something is bad for people, because people will do it illegally. It is much easier to resolve this and establish strict controls. Of course, it is bad when dependent people appear because of casinos, but let them play in regular casinos rather than play in illegal ones.

Most of the casinos have high security system where you can find guards everywhere, its not a bar or club so people who seems misbehaving will be kicked out or even will be completely banned from playing in that casinos.So the people who get violent with any workers unless they wagered huge amount in that casino have high chance of getting kicked out.

They would really invest on that since they do know that in the end of the day they do really have that smiling face and a full pocket. They would set out all of the possible

factors that would give out the extreme comfort and convenience for those people who do play into the place which do really makes them feel welcome and cozy but

they didnt know that its just part of the plan to extract on every penny that they do had.  ;D

That is one of the reason why most of the gamblers are still preferring physical casinos, that is to have physical interaction with their friends, and the vibes that they could feel when playing is boosted if they also have drinks to enjoy. I just want to highlight that not all gamblers are violent when they are asking for drinks, maybe there are some that is frustrated because of their losses. If that is the case, maybe these gamblers who turns out to be violent could enjoy gambling at home, they can also buy drinks to enjoy playing without even hurting bartenders and creating chaos inside the casino.

I guess so. The owner will prevent people who want to mess up the casino by hiring security. Usually, the security will warn people who want to try, but if they don't want to follow the rule, that will be the time for them to be kicked out. No matter how much they wagered on that casino, if they don't follow the rule, they will not allow coming to that place again.


Maybe that is what they feel when they still come to the physical casinos. They can get that experience with their friends, and they can playing the games together while they can also drink and eat something. Yes, I agree that not all gamblers are violent because they know that they come to the casino to playing gambling games and enjoy the games. The casino itself will always watch the gamblers and trying to secure the place from the violent.

That's not always the case

Drugs are strictly illegal and for the right reasons, even if some people are using them anyway. Moreover, if they were not made illegal while their sale wasn't a severe criminal offence, the majority of people would be using them with devastating consequences. In this way, banning something is not always bad for people. Casinos are borderline in this regard, and that's also the reason why they are banned in some countries and only allowed in special zones in other countries

Those waiters are also observing if the gambler is either consistently betting or slowly getting tipsy.
thats the reason why they are controlling the delivery of drinks.

Not unless the gambler will go to the bar in which they need to pay per drinks then that would be another case.
as they have the rights to ask as much as they want because they will pay for it.

That's very clever in the casino, that's why once you are in a casino, you are expected to drink while you gamble, and most of us when we get drunk, we are so aggressive and we don't think clearly, so the chance of losing is very high, but then at the end of the day, we still enjoy if we go their to just have some fun.

Well, It'll be hard to ban something you can't even define properly in order to avoid creating more confusions and problems in human laws.
If governments simply focus on banning immoral or bad things, making laws will be much easier for them. The problem is that if they try focusing on banning things that are actually immoral, heaps of hypocrisies will be exposed in most national laws.

Just simply call it betting (instead of gambling) and it will be much easier to prevent gambling in the betting market.  It actually a good thing to prevent everybody from gambling but not a good thing to prevent everyone from betting. Betting is good if not abused.
It's part of alot of moral activities allowed by many societies. We throw coin at the start of football game to reward a team with starting the football match. We bet on national lotteries, bet on foreign currencies, bet on stocks etc.. They have lots of advantages if not abused.

In short, you don't go to the casino if you don't want to lose your money, it's advisable to be realistic all the time so you'll not end up losing more than you can afford to lose, majority of people go in a casino to enjoy and spend money, though the motive was to make money.

I hope you haven't forgotten about the legalization of marijuana and other light drugs for "medical purposes" in many countries of the world?
Of course, casinos cause much less harm than drugs. But in some countries, especially Muslim ones, casinos are also banned along with alcohol.

That is the waiter's way to control the gamblers who drink because they don't want to see the gamblers will get drunk in the end. Besides that, if they can control it, the gamblers will not make a mess in the gambling place.

But still, the waiters will not allow the gamblers to drink too much, even if they have much money and can pay the drink. It is not easy to handle the drunker, and that is why they always need to control the drink.

They can only have extra treatment in case they are wagering high amount of money, but if they are not for sure guards will keep
them out and banned them from the casino. There's only considerations if the owner see that gamblers who have some behavior like this are big gamblers who are willing to lose huge amount of money during their stay.

This is one of the oldest tricks on the book and yet it is one of the most effective, casinos exchange your money not only to allow you to more easily part with it as instead of looking at the cash that takes you so much to earn you are looking at plastic chips which look very cheap and it makes them easier to bet and lose, but they do this as well to know exactly how much money is coming in and out and also because in the heat of the moment a gambler may forget to exchange their chips for money again and many casinos have the policy to change their chips every few months, which means that if you forgot to exchange your chips for a few months most likely you will not get your money back if you try to exchange them after so much time has passed giving some extra profit the casino.

This is not just because of the alcohol, in any part ofethe world men will be men. This is the reason why people are getting more and more drinks and making problem. It is true most of the elite people consider it a place for discussion and for fun, while the normal man can't afford and spend on those activities same as the wealthy one's.

In the second half of the 19th century morphine was sold freely in pharmacies, and so what?


Casinos can be as dangerous

If you had participated in the gambling section before you put on the Wolf.bet signature, you would have known that there was a thorough, in-depth discussion on this matter. And to say that opinions varied would be an understatement of the century (of this century already). The only thing in which casinos are better than drugs is that their negative impact even in the worst of cases doesn't destroy your body beyond repair unless the damage is deliberately self-inflicted, of course (read, there is always an opportunity to reverse the damage)

It is what they called socialization. Drinking alcohol is also part of it. Besides the drink is the key to better understanding to one self and to others. It is the feeling that could not be feel if not one is not drunk. This is why a place like traditional casino are having this so that one can make socialization and not only to alcohol but also to gambling.activity. The place is creates for the sole purpose of having fun and winding up.with friends from the stress outside or from work and or business if onr is a business owner.

Dude, you're trying to get everyone to agree. And you do it so that you are right and the others are wrong. There are a lot of people, each of them is a person with their own mind and experience. And everyone can have their own personal opinion, which they adhere to.
Personally, I believe that most things in our lives can harm you if you use them excessively. Even vitamins with excessive use can cause beriberi.
Also with casinos, there are people who just have a good time, there are those who are trying to earn money, and there are people who are sick of addiction to casinos. It is very difficult, perhaps even impossible, to make sure that everyone's interests are met, but this does not mean that you should immediately ban casinos.

If you don't want to sound patronizing (smells like a lot of irony), avoid using the word dude in your posts when speaking to a fellow member (mate seems to be a good substitute, just in case)

But you may choose to disagree, of course

Traditional gambling will not be spared from drinking alcohol in front of the gambling table because it is part of the men according to them, but if it can not control our control then this will be a problem for us while having fun with gambling is not a good thing especially with mediocre money for the addict will do it to begin with.
For people maybe yes, socialization and discussion with alcohol are used.

That is why Las Vegas is called the entertainment capital of the world and every casino are treated like leisure and entertainment center, they don't only have casinos they have bars, hotels concert halls and everything associated with casinos, this what makes casinos a very successful business it is a business that creates a business, and you are always on the go here unless you run out of money.

It is better if we don't have to drink because once we drink, sooner or later, we will get drunk without we can stop if we are not lost all of the money. Controlling ourselves will be necessary for gambling and drink at the casino so that we can prevent the worst situations, and the important is we can back to our home with some money. Having fun in gambling and drinking can give us pleasure, but without control, that will be useless.

There are many reasons why casinos offer drinks, some people like to drink while they are gambling in order to lose their inhibitions a little bit and have more fun, some like to drink in order to forget about their problems or about the losses that they have suffered in the casino, but there is a lot of social drinking as well, for example where I live is very common that when a business deal is closed successfully people go to the casinos to celebrate and people do this in order to create a bond with each other and maybe make business with each other again.

Is this really true? I thought the other way around, which is to invite the same player to come and play again, this time, his luck will be tested again, and with his experience of winning big, he might try to bet higher than his winning bet. In this way, the house or casino could have a chance to win back their losses in a legal way.

But if casinos are making sure that the person will not come back to play again, is that a matter of fact that they are accepting losses?

Yeah ideally should not be doing that because not every time the luck will be remain the same, so if that guy comes back again it will be his greediness and will play big for sure next time. So, a good chance for the casinos that he might end up losing and this will help them to get the money.  If it happens multiple times or so then one might investigate it but not before that.

Do you mean casinos are chasing losses too?

Aside from that, I agree with the poster who claims that you you won't be a welcome guest anymore if you keep on winning. Luck or otherwise, you are generating negative cash flows for the operation, and the best way to stop it is to get rid of you, i.e. to prevent you from entering the premises. I've heard a story about some mathematician who had been traveling from one casino to another and milking them all until the rumors spread and casinos started to ban him in advance. But maybe it's just a legend or a myth