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July 01, 2020, 09:07:18 PM
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And who is to decide on what constitutes a conviction and what not, criminal or otherwise?

Right, it is the task for a court of law in any conventional jurisdiction. So it may or may not be enough, but no matter the circumstances and evidence, neither the casino nor the police can convict anyone on their own (unless we are in some dystopian future where "I'm the law"). Technically, in many jurisdictions police can give you a warning without going to court if you admit an offence, or impose a fine on you, which you are entitled to challenge before a court of law by claiming, for example, you were forced to make and sign the statement (or just want to throw a Hail Mary)

Only a court can convict a person, of course. However, the police or Prosecutor's office can evaluate the evidence and decide whether to open a criminal case. And whether there is enough evidence for a conviction

And this basically leaves out the casino

Which was the entire point. To sum it up, they can't arrest, convict, or punish anyone on their own (other than by firing them). All a casino can do is report on an employee who they think colluded with the gamblers. Indeed, this is only applicable to legal establishments as your adventures in an illegal one can end with a very different outcome (pun intended), both as a player and as a dealer (if it comes to that)

We only talk about legal casinos and only about legal methods of punishment. Naturally, they will hand over the violator of the law to law enforcement agencies.
I'm afraid to even imagine what can be done with a cheater in an illegal casino. Perhaps he will never be able to deceive anyone again)

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July 01, 2020, 09:58:26 PM
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And who is to decide on what constitutes a conviction and what not, criminal or otherwise?

Right, it is the task for a court of law in any conventional jurisdiction. So it may or may not be enough, but no matter the circumstances and evidence, neither the casino nor the police can convict anyone on their own (unless we are in some dystopian future where "I'm the law"). Technically, in many jurisdictions police can give you a warning without going to court if you admit an offence, or impose a fine on you, which you are entitled to challenge before a court of law by claiming, for example, you were forced to make and sign the statement (or just want to throw a Hail Mary)

Only a court can convict a person, of course. However, the police or Prosecutor's office can evaluate the evidence and decide whether to open a criminal case. And whether there is enough evidence for a conviction

And this basically leaves out the casino

Which was the entire point. To sum it up, they can't arrest, convict, or punish anyone on their own (other than by firing them). All a casino can do is report on an employee who they think colluded with the gamblers. Indeed, this is only applicable to legal establishments as your adventures in an illegal one can end with a very different outcome (pun intended), both as a player and as a dealer (if it comes to that)

We only talk about legal casinos and only about legal methods of punishment. Naturally, they will hand over the violator of the law to law enforcement agencies

They can't arrest anyone

And thus they can't "hand over" anyone either. If they try to pull off that thing, they may end up a violator even if the fact of the collusion gets confirmed in the court. So, as long as we are talking about legal methods, all they can do is call the cops. And this is what happens when you call the cops in America

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July 01, 2020, 10:31:56 PM
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We only talk about legal casinos and only about legal methods of punishment. Naturally, they will hand over the violator of the law to law enforcement agencies

They can't arrest anyone

And thus they can't "hand over" anyone either. If they try to pull off that thing, they may end up a violator even if the fact of the collusion gets confirmed in the court. So, as long as we are talking about legal methods, all they can do is call the cops. And this is what happens when you call the cops in America

I don't know how it works in America. In my country, if you see a crime committed, you call the cops. And you have the right not to let the criminal out of your establishment. In addition, you have a special security service for this purpose.
If you believe that the casino does not have the right to restrict the movement of a criminal - let it be so. They know the dealer's name, they know his social security number and residential address. They have a recording of his crime on the cameras, there are witnesses. They can just give all this information to the police.

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July 02, 2020, 08:35:59 AM
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We only talk about legal casinos and only about legal methods of punishment. Naturally, they will hand over the violator of the law to law enforcement agencies

They can't arrest anyone

And thus they can't "hand over" anyone either. If they try to pull off that thing, they may end up a violator even if the fact of the collusion gets confirmed in the court. So, as long as we are talking about legal methods, all they can do is call the cops. And this is what happens when you call the cops in America

I don't know how it works in America. In my country, if you see a crime committed, you call the cops

This is likely the best course of action in almost any circumstances

You never know what's actually going on in a situation that you are a casual witness of. The point is, you may end up involved in the crime if you try to take justice into your own hands as had been the case with your example until you changed your stance. So if you call the cops and they do nothing, it is their problem from now on. If you don't, you may become complicit through negligence, i.e. not reporting

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July 02, 2020, 12:44:17 PM
Last edit: July 02, 2020, 12:54:40 PM by bitcoinst
 #185

They will not have a forced manner to the gamblers, but they will use a smooth way without any hard feeling anything. The casino knows how to treat the rich gamblers, so they don't decide to stop quickly, but they will only spend more money to play other gambling games. Maybe they will also offer a girl to that rich person to join with them or sit beside them because the casino will do anything to make that person comfortable with their services.

This is how any adequate business behaves.

It is important for business to sell you its services. It does not matter whether it is a casino or a restaurant or a clothing store. All of them are united by one goal - to sell you services.
The more you are within their environment, the higher the chance that you will spend more money.

You, in turn, allow yourself to be there only on condition that you will be comfortable. This is what any business should do - create comfort for its customers.
Casinos in these things have gone much further than some areas of ordinary business and they have something to learn.

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July 04, 2020, 05:20:13 PM
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That is some tricks from the casino that won't allow the gamblers to stop or leave the casino. They do that by secretly, so we don't feel anything and don't know if they trick us. That is why we need to have control while we are playing gambling, and we need to determine by ourselves how long we can play gambling. When you play for a long time, there will be difficult for you to stop the game before your money runs out.
Those tricks are very old but that does not mean they are not effective, another trick that I have seen casinos employ is that if you are betting large sums of money they will offer you all the drinks and food you may want, with the idea to keep you in the casino and in the case of the drinks to lower your ability to think in a rational way, that way you are more likely to lose money in whatever game you are playing, this is why when you go to a casino you should never carry with you more money than what you are willing to lose otherwise you could wake up the next day lamenting all the money you lost.

I think not just food and drinks, and they will offer other bonuses to us so that we will stay for a long time in their place. When you get drunks, it will be easy for them to keep you playing gambling without thinking that is enough for you. You can not deny what they want if you are drunk because they make you drink so many glasses or bottles. They will know that you still have money to spend on gambling games, and even if you lose your money, they will offer you to take a loan from them.
This is probably the most dangerous aspect of all of this, even if you are cautious enough to not bring a lot of money to the casino you can take loans there which means that a person that is completely intoxicated and that has lost control of his betting could easily lose all what he has if he is not careful, while I have not seen people losing as much money I have seen many times people that came to the casino after being paid on their job and lose all of it and now they had to explain to their wives they lost their money and figure out how to pay for the expenses of the month.
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July 04, 2020, 10:44:40 PM
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That is some tricks from the casino that won't allow the gamblers to stop or leave the casino. They do that by secretly, so we don't feel anything and don't know if they trick us. That is why we need to have control while we are playing gambling, and we need to determine by ourselves how long we can play gambling. When you play for a long time, there will be difficult for you to stop the game before your money runs out.
Those tricks are very old but that does not mean they are not effective, another trick that I have seen casinos employ is that if you are betting large sums of money they will offer you all the drinks and food you may want, with the idea to keep you in the casino and in the case of the drinks to lower your ability to think in a rational way, that way you are more likely to lose money in whatever game you are playing, this is why when you go to a casino you should never carry with you more money than what you are willing to lose otherwise you could wake up the next day lamenting all the money you lost.

I think not just food and drinks, and they will offer other bonuses to us so that we will stay for a long time in their place. When you get drunks, it will be easy for them to keep you playing gambling without thinking that is enough for you. You can not deny what they want if you are drunk because they make you drink so many glasses or bottles. They will know that you still have money to spend on gambling games, and even if you lose your money, they will offer you to take a loan from them.
This is probably the most dangerous aspect of all of this, even if you are cautious enough to not bring a lot of money to the casino you can take loans there which means that a person that is completely intoxicated and that has lost control of his betting could easily lose all what he has if he is not careful, while I have not seen people losing as much money I have seen many times people that came to the casino after being paid on their job and lose all of it and now they had to explain to their wives they lost their money and figure out how to pay for the expenses of the month.

If you dont like to experience to consequences then you should be at least aware nor sensible towards into your action because after enjoying to gamble and when you lost it all and used the money which are intended for living or other expenses and if you are a family man then your surely be fucked up when you get home by your wife since you have spend it all and also what would you eat for the entire month if the budget allocated had already been spent? Actions should really be done carefully but doesnt mean that you have no rights to play thought but be sure that everything is under control.
Casinos of course would do all sorts of things for them to let their players stay longer into the site and suck up money all they do had in the end of the day.

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July 04, 2020, 11:15:48 PM
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That is some tricks from the casino that won't allow the gamblers to stop or leave the casino. They do that by secretly, so we don't feel anything and don't know if they trick us. That is why we need to have control while we are playing gambling, and we need to determine by ourselves how long we can play gambling. When you play for a long time, there will be difficult for you to stop the game before your money runs out.
Those tricks are very old but that does not mean they are not effective, another trick that I have seen casinos employ is that if you are betting large sums of money they will offer you all the drinks and food you may want, with the idea to keep you in the casino and in the case of the drinks to lower your ability to think in a rational way, that way you are more likely to lose money in whatever game you are playing, this is why when you go to a casino you should never carry with you more money than what you are willing to lose otherwise you could wake up the next day lamenting all the money you lost.

I think not just food and drinks, and they will offer other bonuses to us so that we will stay for a long time in their place. When you get drunks, it will be easy for them to keep you playing gambling without thinking that is enough for you. You can not deny what they want if you are drunk because they make you drink so many glasses or bottles. They will know that you still have money to spend on gambling games, and even if you lose your money, they will offer you to take a loan from them.
This is probably the most dangerous aspect of all of this, even if you are cautious enough to not bring a lot of money to the casino you can take loans there which means that a person that is completely intoxicated and that has lost control of his betting could easily lose all what he has if he is not careful, while I have not seen people losing as much money I have seen many times people that came to the casino after being paid on their job and lose all of it and now they had to explain to their wives they lost their money and figure out how to pay for the expenses of the month.

If you dont like to experience to consequences then you should be at least aware nor sensible towards into your action because after enjoying to gamble and when you lost it all and used the money which are intended for living or other expenses and if you are a family man then your surely be fucked up when you get home by your wife since you have spend it all and also what would you eat for the entire month if the budget allocated had already been spent? Actions should really be done carefully but doesnt mean that you have no rights to play thought but be sure that everything is under control.
Casinos of course would do all sorts of things for them to let their players stay longer into the site and suck up money all they do had in the end of the day.

If you are a responsible gambler, you will separate first the funds for your basic necessities.
Make sure that you can't get it if in case you need more money for your gambling.
Or just simply pay all the bills first and give the money for your monthly budget.
So you are practically safe once you are inside the casino, as you know the money in your hand is ready to be spent and be lost.
As a gambler, you already know that once inside the casino, all your money is deemed to be lost.
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July 05, 2020, 07:54:39 AM
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This is how any adequate business behaves.

It is important for business to sell you its services. It does not matter whether it is a casino or a restaurant or a clothing store. All of them are united by one goal - to sell you services.

Perfectly said. It's a business and the goal is to keep you inside and continue patronizing them, they'll give you special treatments making sure that you'll going to keep coming back.

The more you are within their environment, the higher the chance that you will spend more money.

And that's where their business will earned a lot from you, the more you spend the more they'll collect and bank profits.

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July 05, 2020, 12:41:09 PM
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The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

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July 05, 2020, 02:09:10 PM
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The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.
Unless you have like millions to spend with casinos, of course, they will treat you like royalty, LOL. And that is the job of the staff, make you feel comfortable, very friendly, giving you free drinks and food, but behind they are laughing their ass off because you have been suckered by the system already. You will only feel like going home when your pockets are already empty.  Grin

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July 05, 2020, 02:12:25 PM
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They will not have a forced manner to the gamblers, but they will use a smooth way without any hard feeling anything. The casino knows how to treat the rich gamblers, so they don't decide to stop quickly, but they will only spend more money to play other gambling games. Maybe they will also offer a girl to that rich person to join with them or sit beside them because the casino will do anything to make that person comfortable with their services.

This is how any adequate business behaves.

It is important for business to sell you its services. It does not matter whether it is a casino or a restaurant or a clothing store. All of them are united by one goal - to sell you services.
The more you are within their environment, the higher the chance that you will spend more money.

You, in turn, allow yourself to be there only on condition that you will be comfortable. This is what any business should do - create comfort for its customers.
Casinos in these things have gone much further than some areas of ordinary business and they have something to learn.

That is absolutely right. As users, we will not move to any place if we can find a comfort zone, and we will stay for a long time without wanting to leave the place. When the user can get their comfortable, that is a guarantee to any business that their product or services will always be at the top in their eyes. Not many of the business field which can give comfort to their users instead disappointed the user itself, which can lead them to leave as soon as possible.

I think not just food and drinks, and they will offer other bonuses to us so that we will stay for a long time in their place. When you get drunks, it will be easy for them to keep you playing gambling without thinking that is enough for you. You can not deny what they want if you are drunk because they make you drink so many glasses or bottles. They will know that you still have money to spend on gambling games, and even if you lose your money, they will offer you to take a loan from them.
This is probably the most dangerous aspect of all of this, even if you are cautious enough to not bring a lot of money to the casino you can take loans there which means that a person that is completely intoxicated and that has lost control of his betting could easily lose all what he has if he is not careful, while I have not seen people losing as much money I have seen many times people that came to the casino after being paid on their job and lose all of it and now they had to explain to their wives they lost their money and figure out how to pay for the expenses of the month.

That is what will happen if someone loses control of himself, and he will end without any money left. We need to stop as soon as possible if we are almost run out of the money so that we can leave the gambling place in the right time, and we don't have to take loans in that gambling place. When we take loans, that will be like a time bomb for us to end sooner or later, and we will not making money. If they don't want to think about the negative side that they can get, they will not realize that the money will be worth and useful if they give to their family, so their family can use it to buy the daily needs than to play gambling.

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July 05, 2020, 02:28:23 PM
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The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

It's just a good casino, man. This is their job so that you can comfortably spend your money and enjoy the game. Time flies in the casino. That is why it is much more pleasant to play in a regular casino than in an online casino.

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July 05, 2020, 03:24:46 PM
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The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

It's just a good casino, man. This is their job so that you can comfortably spend your money and enjoy the game. Time flies in the casino. That is why it is much more pleasant to play in a regular casino than in an online casino.

It's a job that raking them good money, so they will do everything on their power to put everyone as comfortable as you can get inside a casino, specially a good and well-known land base casinos. And this is what gamblers wanted to see and feel when they are inside, the atmosphere and the sounds of slot machine, people shouting when they hit big. But at the end of the day, you could be losing money in exchange of this experiences.

 
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July 05, 2020, 03:56:49 PM
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The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

It's just a good casino, man. This is their job so that you can comfortably spend your money and enjoy the game. Time flies in the casino. That is why it is much more pleasant to play in a regular casino than in an online casino.
More time you spend then more money you are going to spend, this is just the tactics of casinos.Maybe you actually don't want to spend that much time and money there but you did just because you feel something relaxed.Who knows meanwhile you are going to spend everything what you had in that case online casino is way better because we may not spend much time and also we don't feel guilty about betting with small money.
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July 05, 2020, 09:31:16 PM
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If you dont like to experience to consequences then you should be at least aware nor sensible towards into your action because after enjoying to gamble and when you lost it all and used the money which are intended for living or other expenses and if you are a family man then your surely be fucked up when you get home by your wife since you have spend it all and also what would you eat for the entire month if the budget allocated had already been spent? Actions should really be done carefully but doesnt mean that you have no rights to play thought but be sure that everything is under control.
Casinos of course would do all sorts of things for them to let their players stay longer into the site and suck up money all they do had in the end of the day.

If you are a responsible gambler, you will separate first the funds for your basic necessities.
Make sure that you can't get it if in case you need more money for your gambling.
Or just simply pay all the bills first and give the money for your monthly budget.
So you are practically safe once you are inside the casino, as you know the money in your hand is ready to be spent and be lost.
As a gambler, you already know that once inside the casino, all your money is deemed to be lost.

Not at all because some gamblers doesnt really think of that way which they are already accepting their fate to lost up but rather they are somewhat got pumped and believing that they can make big money out of those
funds that they do had into their pocket.Its really just sensible thing to be done for us who do think of most when it comes to responsibilities but there are people who do let themselves go along into their addiction
and made out foolish decisions like this one and its not really that rare to happen but quite common to be seen for some who got involved on gambling.Everything should really be undercontrol but
due to greed and addicted they do lost track on the path they should take.

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July 05, 2020, 10:16:26 PM
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It's a job that raking them good money, so they will do everything on their power to put everyone as comfortable as you can get inside a casino, specially a good and well-known land base casinos. And this is what gamblers wanted to see and feel when they are inside, the atmosphere and the sounds of slot machine, people shouting when they hit big. But at the end of the day, you could be losing money in exchange of this experiences.

Exactly. Many people leave a lot of money there and therefore they want to be treated as benefactors. Of course, everyone understands that these smiles are artificial and goodwill is feigned, but in such an atmosphere it is much more pleasant to play than when everyone is sullen and angry.

The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

It's just a good casino, man. This is their job so that you can comfortably spend your money and enjoy the game. Time flies in the casino. That is why it is much more pleasant to play in a regular casino than in an online casino.
More time you spend then more money you are going to spend, this is just the tactics of casinos.Maybe you actually don't want to spend that much time and money there but you did just because you feel something relaxed.Who knows meanwhile you are going to spend everything what you had in that case online casino is way better because we may not spend much time and also we don't feel guilty about betting with small money.

This is the reason why I always take the amount of money I am willing to spend at the casino and not a cent more. I advise my friends to do the same.

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July 06, 2020, 06:54:02 AM
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More time you spend then more money you are going to spend, this is just the tactics of casinos.Maybe you actually don't want to spend that much time and money there but you did just because you feel something relaxed.Who knows meanwhile you are going to spend everything what you had in that case online casino is way better because we may not spend much time and also we don't feel guilty about betting with small money.

We might not have a chance to win if we spend more time playing gambling, but we have a big opportunity to lose money. We need to realize that we are better to take a break and stop gambling for a while if we already lose some money because that means we will run out of the money without a chance to recover the money. Playing in online gambling will make us forget about how long we already play games. And only we who can control how long we should play online gambling, so we don't have to lose much money.

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July 06, 2020, 07:19:44 AM
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More time you spend then more money you are going to spend, this is just the tactics of casinos.Maybe you actually don't want to spend that much time and money there but you did just because you feel something relaxed.Who knows meanwhile you are going to spend everything what you had in that case online casino is way better because we may not spend much time and also we don't feel guilty about betting with small money.

We might not have a chance to win if we spend more time playing gambling, but we have a big opportunity to lose money. We need to realize that we are better to take a break and stop gambling for a while if we already lose some money because that means we will run out of the money without a chance to recover the money.
The simple thing to do is to "stay disciplined", when you have a limit, you need to strictly follow it, whether you win or lose.

Playing in online gambling will make us forget about how long we already play games. And only we who can control how long we should play online gambling, so we don't have to lose much money.
Not, if you have the discipline, and this is what gamblers should learn as the reality will happen which is the longer we gamble, the lesser our chance of winning has become. I'm not saying this based on what I read, but also based on what I experienced as a gambler.

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July 06, 2020, 01:02:02 PM
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The first time I went to a casino, it feels like I don't want to go home and stay for a longer time, the lounge is very cozy , the staffs are very accommodating, there are a lot of freebies, feels like home to me,you are treated like a king especially if you are with a high bettor and high roller.

It's just a good casino, man. This is their job so that you can comfortably spend your money and enjoy the game. Time flies in the casino. That is why it is much more pleasant to play in a regular casino than in an online casino.
yeah the ambiance  is really priceless thats why i really wanted to play in real casino ever since.

though sometimes i am losing my mood specially when the pandemic started and i have no chance to go in those places .

So the ending?now i only play Online and having no plan on going to any of these casino houses unless the cure for Covid19 already in market.

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