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Title: Satoshi banned!
Post by: zasad@ on July 11, 2020, 10:06:39 AM
https://loyce.club/trust/2020-07-11_Sat_05.05h/
https://i.ibb.co/zPstFmL/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/CVBS6wX)
Do you think that he will appeal?
Is this a mistake or a joke? But today is not April 1.
In the Russian forum they say that: "Craig Wright found plagiarism at Satoshi"


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 11, 2020, 10:16:55 AM
AFAIK, his account got locked a few years ago as a security measurement, just in case it gets hacked.

In the Russian forum they say that: "Craig Wright found plagiarism at Satoshi"

He's joking :P


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: irfan_pak10 on July 11, 2020, 10:17:04 AM
But his bitcointalk account shows he is been inactive, No banned status according to bpip.

https://i.imgur.com/nINcCRU.png


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: Lucius on July 11, 2020, 10:19:29 AM
What I do know is that Satoshi profile is locked for security reasons, but I have to admit I don’t know how that reflects on the list you’re referring to. According to what can be seen on satoshi bpip (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=satoshi) there is no notification that the profile has been banned.

As for CW Faketoshi, he could not find this forum without the help of an assistant, let alone a plagiarized post by Satoshi...


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: OmegaStarScream on July 11, 2020, 10:22:08 AM
But his bitcointalk account shows he is been inactive, No banned status according to bpip.

What I do know is that Satoshi profile is locked for security reasons, but I have to admit I don’t know how that reflects on the list you’re referring to. According to what can be seen on satoshi bpip (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=satoshi) there is no notification that the profile has been banned.

That's because I gave @LoyceV an updated list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092983.msg54657928#msg54657928) (no longer accessible) a couple of weeks ago but @suchmoon hasn't updated his yet.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: TGD on July 11, 2020, 10:24:17 AM
What I do know is that Satoshi profile is locked for security reasons, but I have to admit I don’t know how that reflects on the list you’re referring to. According to what can be seen on satoshi bpip (https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=satoshi) there is no notification that the profile has been banned.

As for CW Faketoshi, he could not find this forum without the help of an assistant, let alone a plagiarized post by Satoshi...

You can see his ban status on his trust list page at BPIP.org. Typically it show the ban status on the profile of BPIP but this time its not. There some error on the founder account and maybe this the result of the temporary lock of the account due to the security issue.


https://loyce.club/trust/2020-07-11_Sat_05.05h/
https://i.ibb.co/zPstFmL/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/CVBS6wX)
Do you think that he will appeal?
Is this a mistake or a joke? But today is not April 1.
In the Russian forum they say that: "Craig Wright found plagiarism at Satoshi"


The founder is inactive since 2010 so there is no way he will appeal and also he will not risk his location just to access his forum account. He already made a great escape so why he will come back again after 10 years.  ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: cabron on July 11, 2020, 10:58:44 AM

Did presduterte cause this trouble to satoshi? He is the only person we know who distrusted satoshi. lol

I imagine there must be a lot of hackers going to try satoshi's account so before a hacker get his account and post something, I guess it's better to just disable satoshi's account. If it's going to be in the hands of a hacker it can be devastating but it shouldn't be labelled banned.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: LoyceV on July 11, 2020, 11:09:20 AM
Is this a mistake or a joke?
I answered this here:
The forum is so harsh that even satoshi has been banned.  :o  This is mistake?
I've known for a long time that satoshi's account was locked (I think I must have read it in a post from theymos) to prevent it from being hacked. If satoshi wants to come back, all it takes is a signed message to theymos and he can regain access.
@satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3): all it takes is one new post, and I'll send you 50 Merit :D

I didn't know "locked" also means he's banned though, until I added OmegaStarScream's list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092983.msg54747151#msg54747151) to my list of banned users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092983.0). Most of them have probably been banned for years already, I just didn't know about them until last week.

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Last week (https://loyce.club/trust/2020-07-04_Sat_05.03h/), 1019 users on my Trust list viewer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.0) were marked as banned. This week (https://loyce.club/trust/2020-07-11_Sat_05.05h/), it's 2122 users.



From Will "satoshi" ever login again? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186939.0):
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?
His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: UserU on July 11, 2020, 11:51:58 AM
Quite funny to think if the co-founder himself is no longer welcome here ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: Pmalek on July 11, 2020, 12:35:46 PM
Maybe satoshi participated in an altcoin giveaway and got banned.  ;D

I think it is better if the account stays this way. Imagine the panic if a hacker/troll were to gain access to the account and make some negative posts about Bitcoin or announce the imminent sale of all his Bitcoin.  


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: hd49728 on July 11, 2020, 12:42:38 PM
Maybe satoshi participated in an altcoin giveaway and got banned.  ;D

I think it is better if the account stays this way. Imagine the panic if a hacker/troll were to gain access to the account and make some negative posts about Bitcoin or announce the imminent sale of all his Bitcoin.  
Maybe satoshi did set up a smart contract and time lock to activate the ban on the time he want for it.

Interesting question is: If the satoshi account is banned, who click on the button to ban him? All admins and moderators do know who is satoshi and which account is his. They will do due diligent thinking and in-depth investigations before the ban is applied that is nearly never will be applied on satoshi.

Ban the person who created the forum and gave it to others to operate and control it till now.  ::)


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: UserU on July 11, 2020, 12:46:38 PM
Maybe satoshi participated in an altcoin giveaway and got banned.  ;D

I think it is better if the account stays this way. Imagine the panic if a hacker/troll were to gain access to the account and make some negative posts about Bitcoin or announce the imminent sale of all his Bitcoin.  

Of all altcoins, it had to be the BSV one ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: Shimmiry on July 11, 2020, 01:09:25 PM
From Will "satoshi" ever login again? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186939.0):
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?
His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.

So basically satoshi's account is inaccessible unless he contacted the forum administrator theymos while ironically satoshi is the Founder of the Bitcoin and the forum itself?

But TBH I think satoshi's inactivity for years that have passed seemed to answer one common question which is "Who is Satoshi?", and the answer is I think Satoshi and his account were just a front to whom really is the Founder. I don't say it's theymos nor whatsover. I guess it's just a codename or a username which most of us think of since we started in the forum (while satoshi is the smallest amount of Bitcoin like penny in dollars).

But it is also kinda scary as there are still a lot of bitcoins that aren't used and in hold by Satoshi. If ever he's mad at us he might dump it lol  ;D


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: Daniel91 on July 11, 2020, 01:24:43 PM
From Will "satoshi" ever login again? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186939.0):
Do you think "satoshi" will ever just randomly log in one day and post something?
His account is locked, so no. If he wants to claim his account, he'll have to contact me with a PGP signature.

So basically satoshi's account is inaccessible unless he contacted the forum administrator theymos while ironically satoshi is the Founder of the Bitcoin and the forum itself?

But TBH I think satoshi's inactivity for years that have passed seemed to answer one common question which is "Who is Satoshi?", and the answer is I think Satoshi and his account were just a front to whom really is the Founder. I don't say it's theymos nor whatsover. I guess it's just a codename or a username which most of us think of since we started in the forum (while satoshi is the smallest amount of Bitcoin like penny in dollars).

But it is also kinda scary as there are still a lot of bitcoins that aren't used and in hold by Satoshi. If ever he's mad at us he might dump it lol  ;D

Satoshi is just a name chosen by the person or group behind bitcoin, nothing more than that.
Whether other members of this group may still be active in this forum will we probably never know, nor is it so important actually.
Satoshi of course can follow this forum even if his profile is locked, and if he doesn't want to use his profile here because of his privacy and security, it's his decision that we should respect.
Finally, if Satoshi ever decided to use again his profile here, I'm sure he will be able to prove his identity to the administrators without any problem.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: FIFA worldcup on July 11, 2020, 02:33:11 PM
https://loyce.club/trust/2020-07-11_Sat_05.05h/
https://i.ibb.co/zPstFmL/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/CVBS6wX)
Do you think that he will appeal?
Is this a mistake or a joke? But today is not April 1.
In the Russian forum they say that: "Craig Wright found plagiarism at Satoshi"


He is the founder himself and founders don't appeal.  :)
The account was inactive from 2010 and therefore it does not matter much if is banned. However it can be unban anytime by the admin if they ever feel the need to enable it.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: nutildah on July 11, 2020, 02:33:19 PM
Whether other members of this group may still be active in this forum will we probably never know, nor is it so important actually.

Maybe he already came Back (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=101601) and left again.

ps Its kind of ironic - I got emails from Satoshi in 2008/2009 about
hashcash & inviting comments on his paper, and to try the alpha
software; the irony that I invented the hashcash function all the
CPU/GPU and ASIC miners are burning 40MW on and yet I dont own (nor
ever have) a single bitcoin.  What a foolish person :) Surely I
should've tried it out mining at the beginning like Hal Finney did.
Well I'm going to fix that via mtgox & an asic miner but there's no
way I'm going to get to Satoshi's $100m genesis hoard level as a late
late player :)


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: NeuroticFish on July 11, 2020, 02:52:26 PM
I see quite a lot of strange comments here. Satoshi is clearly not unwelcome here, but most probably he will not come back. So having an account available for hackers would be clearly be a mistake.
So locking the account is the best move.

Now, if the only way of locking is banning, then maybe BPIP and LoyceV tools (and maybe others available) should add an exception and for Satoshi account write "locked for security reasons" instead of the ugly looking "banned".


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: UserU on July 11, 2020, 03:20:07 PM
I see quite a lot of strange comments here. Satoshi is clearly not unwelcome here, but most probably he will not come back. So having an account available for hackers would be clearly be a mistake.
So locking the account is the best move.

Of course, we're only kidding about the unwelcomed part. Should satoshi make a re-entrance, provided we're still alive by then, we'll welcome him back with open arms and wallets probably.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: virasog on July 11, 2020, 06:38:09 PM
I see quite a lot of strange comments here. Satoshi is clearly not unwelcome here, but most probably he will not come back. So having an account available for hackers would be clearly be a mistake.
So locking the account is the best move.

Of course, we're only kidding about the unwelcomed part. Should satoshi make a re-entrance, provided we're still alive by then, we'll welcome him back with open arms and wallets probably.

I wished satoshi could come back in our lives and we know who exactly is satoshi  :)
Only Craig Wright  will be happy to see this and will try to make drama out of it. Rest we all know the account is banned for security reasons as stated by many.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on July 11, 2020, 07:46:16 PM
Now, if the only way of locking is banning, then maybe BPIP and LoyceV tools (and maybe others available) should add an exception and for Satoshi account write "locked for security reasons" instead of the ugly looking "banned".

I second this thought as it doesn't look nice seeing those  ugly tagged associated with his (Satoshi) account. At first when I saw the topic title of this thread I was curious to read what has happened since alot of controversial when satoshi is mentioned.

Some noobs might misinterpreted this and go on to spread the misconception of Satoshi no longer been welcome on the bitcoin he created (co-founderd) and probably bitcoin in general since his account is banned lol.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: andreibi on July 11, 2020, 09:13:45 PM
In any case, if the real Satoshi were to want his account back, he would message the forum admin with a signed BTC address known to belong to him.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: YOSHIE on July 12, 2020, 03:14:20 AM
Even though it exists, it's very rare to find a "suicide boss".

@Satoshi, founder of this Forum, today he is banning himself, maybe, tomorrow he will do something else to his own account, it is not surprising if @Satoshi does something strange for himself.

There are no bans, the exact rules for @satoshi, here permanently, it is just a 'joke'. Very funny.

thank you @Satoshi, everyone was amazed, quite funny.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: LoyceV on July 12, 2020, 02:03:32 PM
Now, if the only way of locking is banning, then maybe BPIP and LoyceV tools (and maybe others available) should add an exception and for Satoshi account write "locked for security reasons" instead of the ugly looking "banned".
All he has to do is post :P

Seriously though, it turned out it wasn't a good idea to share this data (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092983.msg54657928#msg54657928), so I'll remove satoshi (and 400,000 other users) from my list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092983.0). I'm currently still processing the data. I'll use my original data again for future updates. I won't edit this week's "glitch" in my Trust list viewer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5102296.0), but it will be a one-time thing.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: nutildah on July 12, 2020, 02:10:35 PM
Seriously though, it turned out it wasn't a good idea to share this data (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092983.msg54657928#msg54657928), so I'll remove satoshi (and 400,000 other users) from my list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5092983.0).

Why was it not a good idea? Maybe just remove satoshi?


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: LoyceV on July 12, 2020, 02:14:14 PM
Why was it not a good idea?
I didn't ask, but if I have to guess: it's supposed to be for Mod eyes only.


Title: Re: Satoshi banned!
Post by: UserU on July 12, 2020, 03:53:13 PM

I wished satoshi could come back in our lives and we know who exactly is satoshi  :)
Only Craig Wright  will be happy to see this and will try to make drama out of it. Rest we all know the account is banned for security reasons as stated by many.

That guy sure did, but it fizzled out ;D