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Title: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: erikoy on August 15, 2020, 11:34:03 AM
It is known worldwide that russia had been into the last phase of the trials of Covid19 Vaccine. It already coordinated with other countries to participate in the last phase of trial and that is the mass vaccination of the said Vaccine for covid19. Some countries like Philippines is wiling to cooperate and even buy the Vaccine.

As I have read some articles about creating a Vaccine would take the usual time frame needed before it will be created and declare as safe could take up to several years like 5-25 years. In this case the Vaccine was being made rush and it could harm people especially in the plan for mass vaccnation. I can't imagine the devastating effect of the vaccine if found out later the bad side effects on human body. Like the Dengvaxia issue wherein most people get injected without dengue history will complicate dengue illness. The dengue will become severe when one injected with dengcaxia for those who had not been into dengue sickness before. The sad thing is that the vaccine effect will take up to 5 years. So, five years of being stress not to get dengue and a life threating vaccine being injected to the body is something awful.

Now, Covid19 vaccine could also be the same as with dengvaxia. I am not questioning the scientist or the russia tech and people doing their research on creating the vaccine. yes they are good but this is not about how they do the reasearch but the effect itself that is not still known and again vaccine making will take years before it can be declared as safe vaccine for the people.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

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Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Charles-Tim on August 15, 2020, 12:33:32 PM
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Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not
Even, if possible a dog can have covid-19, I can not even give such vaccine to my dog. There is a thread on Politics and Society board about this some days ago. There are comments from many medical experts and professionals from Europe and America included in the thread topic article. Check the link below.

Vaccine too early could be dangerous
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5268580.0

From the link, quoted:
Despite rapid progress, most experts think any vaccine would not become widely available until mid-2021.

So, I will wait untill such time. Or even more than months after mid-2021. Or wait until 2022.



Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: GDragon on August 15, 2020, 01:55:45 PM
Nope, I don't even want to call it vaccine already if its still in phase 3. A lot of vaccines are in phase 3, not only the one in Russia. Its dangerous, that's why it is still in testing phase. I hope people who will get it are volunteers, cause it will destroy the public trust if it has side effects and those people who got it didn't even want it in the first place. I've read that one side effect is  ADE (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6290032/), which make an illness worse.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Bttzed03 on August 15, 2020, 02:53:06 PM
The case of the Dengvaxia mess here in the Philippines will be different from Sputnik V because the public is now aware and more cautious. IIRC, the former hasn't completed testing phase yet (still in phase 2) but the previous administration hid that fact and proceeded with the mass vaccination. I bet it was also used as a political tool/PR to make them look good. The latter will undergo phase 3 clinical trial and timeline is from Oct. 2020 to Mar 2021. We'll have to wait and monitor its progress.

Many countries have already expressed their interest in purchasing the vaccine from Russia.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?
I wouldn't volunteer. I'm not a fan of vaccines even before the Dengvaxia scandal and I can't even remember the last time I was vaccinated.

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?
With a proven vaccine to deal with the COVID-19 virus, Governments will most likely lift all types of travel restrictions and all legal businesses will be allowed to operate at full capacity. With more mobility and businesses back to their normal operation, expect a faster economic recovery. The only problem I see here is if there's still money for people to spend and/for businesses to resume operation. Banks will have to be cooperative and help out smaller businesses.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: chip1994 on August 15, 2020, 02:53:28 PM
In fact, before mass production of vaccines, researchers have also tested a lot and then come up with results. So with only vaccines, the economy will be saved. Russia is also now receiving support from the US in its research institute to speed up the production of vaccines. In short, if vaccines come to us soon, the faster the economy will be saved. especially the crypto market will be to the moon by the Bitcoin halving.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Pamadar on August 15, 2020, 03:24:52 PM
In fact, before mass production of vaccines, researchers have also tested a lot and then come up with results. So with only vaccines, the economy will be saved. Russia is also now receiving support from the US in its research institute to speed up the production of vaccines. In short, if vaccines come to us soon, the faster the economy will be saved. especially the crypto market will be to the moon by the Bitcoin halving.

In related to vaccines, it's the only way for the economy to recover back, most businesses
 are still close and even there are establishments that are now open, the volumes of people
are not the same as before. With this vaccine.

It can change up the mindsets of people especially if this vaccines will really eliminates the virus.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: dothebeats on August 15, 2020, 03:56:42 PM
This is reminiscent of the Space Race back in the late 50s and early 60s wherein the USSR and USA are competing to be the first in this technological advancement and seal their name in the pedestal forever. Now, they are just racing on who gets the vaccine first, and even though the data is incomplete and no phase 3 trials were done, Russia rushed to register its vaccine and tagged it 'complete' nonetheless. This might even result to more deaths, most of which will be unrelated to the virus itself but rather to the complications brought forth by the vaccine. Countries who get this vaccine would surely suffer if they get their hands on this vaccine and inject it on their citizens.

If a complete vaccine should ever come @ Q1 2021, economic repairs would still take years due to the damage the pandemic caused on lots of industries. It has also caused a series of events that could turn into a full-blown recession, so I do not really put my hopes up that a vaccine would be the only thing we need to bring back things to normal.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: AniviaBtc on August 15, 2020, 05:20:36 PM
If this vaccine was found effective and it is proven for more than a year, then there is a possibility that we can somehow recover slowly and go back to normal.

Although this pandemic can really bring a permanent damage to us humans because of those loved ones that we've lost. It can somehow help the economy recover because businesses will possibly reopen and transportation will soon be allowed to operate and then workers can now go to their job everyday.

But that's not easy to predict because probably fear will still be there as it makes people think anxiously.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: audaciousbeing on August 15, 2020, 07:07:52 PM
If this vaccine can be effective, then the people that have caught the virus should be the first line of action in ensuring that they are administered to and then free them after which the world can go to the preventive mode by ensuring that anyone who is travelling from one country to another should presents evidence of the vaccine before being allowed to enter leave the country of departure with that the people in the country can be safe and the economy can quickly back to normal because people can be sure that outsiders or people returning from other parts of the world are not bringing in the virus.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: leyton11 on August 15, 2020, 07:29:45 PM
I don't think so negatively. Vaccines do take time to provide enough yield, but not quality anymore. Because when they make vaccines, they also test multiple units with human-like genes for analysis. So I feel very secure about the Russian vaccine, which is a medicine that saves the world from economic crisis as well as people's lives. Crypto market will also grow strongly, keep usdt now to look for new opportunities when the defi trend comes. Don't be too negative.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Quidat on August 15, 2020, 07:30:03 PM
Nope, I don't even want to call it vaccine already if its still in phase 3. A lot of vaccines are in phase 3, not only the one in Russia. Its dangerous, that's why it is still in testing phase. I hope people who will get it are volunteers, cause it will destroy the public trust if it has side effects and those people who got it didn't even want it in the first place. I've read that one side effect is  ADE (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6290032/), which make an illness worse.
Ive seen some of countries specially third world ones whom do really accept on whats been offered which i dont see for it to be right on making out a certain countries citizens to act as a
guinea pig but somehow we cant really able to tell if its effective to said virus if test wont really be done.It shouldnt really be that a mandatory for anyone to take those shots but rather
they do just done those test for those who do volunteer, where those people do know the risk involved when they do make themselves as test subjects.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Upgrade00 on August 15, 2020, 07:32:28 PM
With all the excitement about various vaccines being worked on, I fear one of them may be approved too soon. Vaccine preparation usually goes through many stages to ensure its effectiveness as well as the absence of side effects, this process occurs over several phases which would take months or years.

The novel coronavirus has been around for over 9 months, this has given researchers and laboratory scientists some time to understand the virus and come up with a viable protection, there was however little historic data as regards this virus as it's fairly new, potentially increasing the time it would take to have a vaccine created and approved.
We should also note that if a vaccine passes preclinical and clinical trials, there still needs to be a period for monitoring of the volunteers who showed positive improvements, this time however they would be watching for side effects.

Those who don't learn from history are bound to repeat it. The political pressure to restart and revive the economy while bringing life back to normal shouldn't be a reason to endanger the lives of people.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: hatshepsut93 on August 15, 2020, 07:38:26 PM
Russia is just bulshitting, they don't have a vaccine, and they certainly didn't test anything on Putin's daughter. It's just a PR move to make Russia seem to be cool, both domestically and internationally. The first real vaccine will be developed in the West, some half a year or a year from now. It might be bullish news when it will happen, and stocks would likely react positively, but the same can't be said about Bitcoin.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: NeuroticFish on August 15, 2020, 08:32:38 PM
The vaccine from Russia doesn't have all the safety tests made as required by international regulations. There are news even about doctors from Russia that are afraid to take it.

Of course, I'm not convinced that the western vaccine/s will be much better. They rushing it and this makes errors much more likely.

We'll have to have patience and see what happens next. One vaccine should be good sooner or later.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Yatsan on August 15, 2020, 09:01:16 PM
The reason why there is still no released report of the mass production and massive distribution of the vaccine made by Russia is because they are avoiding that the vaccine might have an after effect that can be bad to humans which is delaying the release of the vaccine even though Russia have already claimed months or weeks ago that they have already made the potential cure for the virus. Russian scientists are making sure of the effect that aside of killing the virus is of course it is safe for the human subject that is why they are still undergoing the last phase to prove its effectivity and not to create worst scenario.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If the clinical trial have been done and there is no side effect that is bad to human, then why not? We are all wanting to have the vaccine to end this pandemic once and for all. But the vaccine that I wanted for me to get injected is the one that have already passed all the tests and have proven to be a cure with no negative side effects on human and not just the trial vaccine.

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

We are all just waiting for the creation of the vaccine that will end this pandemic so basically once the vaccine made was proven to be safe and be the cure to this virus, surely all countries can now get back into normal lives and can restart their economy which can lead to progressive actions and economic growth to be fixed because of the devastating effect of the covid-19 pandemic.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on August 15, 2020, 09:02:39 PM
Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?
Vaccine trials don't work that way, but ultimately if your question is whether I'd get the vaccine for COVID-19 then my answer would be "yes".  I'm not an anti-vaxxer by any means.

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?
If somebody developed a vaccine that was 100% effective, it still wouldn't be a blockbuster drug that many people think it would be.  Vaccines never are, and they usually don't account for a huge amount of any given pharmaceutical company's revenue.  So no, I don't think a vaccine would have much of an effect other than putting people back to work when they feel that they're safe.  In that respect I think a vaccine would have an enormous impact on the global economy--but we'll see what the result is when one is finally brought to market. 

Of course, I'm not convinced that the western vaccine/s will be much better. They rushing it and this makes errors much more likely.
That could certainly be true, but I'm hoping if mistakes are made they're not serious ones.  I'm also hoping the time frame for getting a vaccine into doctors' offices is shorter than it usually takes in the world of pharma companies.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: verita1 on August 15, 2020, 10:06:34 PM
Mikhail Murashko, the Minister of Health of Russia, said that within the next two weeks the first packages of the Sputnik-V vaccine will be available to doctors.

It is true that there is skepticism by specialists in the USA, Germany, France and other countries about this vaccine.
But Russia is betting on everyone that the vaccine is effective.

Proof of this is that dates for massive vaccination have already been planned.
Hopefully the Sputnik-V vaccine will be a success. And we all have the opportunity to access it to be able to return to normality and recover the economy.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Twinkledoe on August 15, 2020, 10:11:53 PM
Mikhail Murashko, the Minister of Health of Russia, said that within the next two weeks the first packages of the Sputnik-V vaccine will be available to doctors.

It is true that there is skepticism by specialists in the USA, Germany, France and other countries about this vaccine.
But Russia is betting on everyone that the vaccine is effective.

Proof of this is that dates for massive vaccination have already been planned.
Hopefully the Sputnik-V vaccine will be a success. And we all have the opportunity to access it to be able to return to normality and recover the economy.

Before releasing it to the public, I believe it has passed all the necessary requirements of WHO. And if Putin's daughter received it (no red tape), then they are pretty confident with themselves.

https://fortune.com/2020/08/11/russia-covid-vaccine-approved-putin-daughter/

Right now, we can't assess its efficiency because it will take time if that vaccine will really do its job. Let us hope that they really observe all the necessary protocols before releasing it to public use.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: jademaxsuy on August 15, 2020, 10:34:27 PM
No, I will not get any members of my family get involve with the vaccine for it is still be needing a study of the possible effect to human. This could be agitate and I think it would be awful carrying vaccine inside the body knowing the possible effect and that could be life threatining. I will just going to wait for some time before getting injected with the vaccine.

Economy growth will depend on every country. I guess the fastest economic growth will goes to food production. This is somehow tha had been deppreciating due to constant consumption with lesser people doing to supply due to the pandemic.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Oasisman on August 15, 2020, 11:10:18 PM
Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?
Yes, why not? What's the least we can do? Are we just going to just look at each other getting infected by the virus? Or we're going to make a step forward and discover some vaccine to eradicate this pandemic.
We'll all gonna die anyway, If you don't die with Covid or the vaccine, sure you'll die to something not related with Covid.
I don't question the vax that will be developed in this dire situation, sure everything has undergone a thorough process before implementing clinical trials. In fact,  
Most of the medicines like Anti-biotics that will be injected to your body all have long term effect to your body and so does the vax.

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

Obviously, a big resounding YES.
Lives, Businesses, Physical classes, transportation, stocks, production, and etc. All back to their normal pace.
But who ever developed a legit vax first will surely have their economy recover back rapidly.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: jossiel on August 15, 2020, 11:39:52 PM
They are quick to have that vaccine and even pronounced to be the first vaccine but later, corrected that it's still on the last clinical trial phase. 1st quarter of 2021 could be the quickest timeframe for the actual vaccine.

We have modern technology so it's quicker this time, the 5 years or more timeframe for the creation of a vaccine is way quicker due to the upgrade of technology. It's safe to say that by next year we'll have various COVID-19 manufactured and made by several pharmaceutical companies.

And if I'm asked to volunteer, I wouldn't. Whilst the mass production of vaccine and proven to be effective, everything will turn back to normal and businesses will comeback just like the usual days.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on August 16, 2020, 12:27:38 AM
Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?
Seem like I won't do that, there will be many effect for my body and it could make me die if there is something bad happen. I decided to be a day trader and I have resigned from my real job so as I will just stay at home and never go outside until the situation is safe and the vaccine completely safe for human being.

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?
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That is the government's job, if they still dragged on in this problem, sooner or later the country will experience many crises, especially the financial crisis. But they won't let it happen, until now they always trying to build the economic back and make another stimulus to make their economic better.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on August 16, 2020, 01:26:15 AM
Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?
No, I am not willing to do it. Because we have an issue in our country where there is a free vaccine distributed to different part of our country, after a few years, a lot of children losing their life because of the said vaccine. They have become the victim as the test subject for that vaccine.

It depends on every country. The government itself will be the one to handle it. It is their job, so, the outcome will depend on how they will solve this issue.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Genemind on August 16, 2020, 02:27:04 AM
Most vaccines and medicine are up for trial and error. There are no other means for scientists to know if it will not be tested. Honestly, I am not willing to try something that might give complications to my body in the future. However, having a vaccine for COVID-19 is a big step for each country. We all know how devastated the economy became since the pandemic started. People might be able to get back to their normal lives and drastically the economy will recover.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: naikturun on August 16, 2020, 05:53:39 AM
Nope, I don't even want to call it vaccine already if its still in phase 3. A lot of vaccines are in phase 3, not only the one in Russia. Its dangerous, that's why it is still in testing phase. I hope people who will get it are volunteers, cause it will destroy the public trust if it has side effects and those people who got it didn't even want it in the first place. I've read that one side effect is  ADE (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6290032/), which make an illness worse.


of course it has to be tested otherwise how do we know if the vaccine is working, and also every side effect of the drug is mostly negative although some is not on a large scale.
at least the vaccine created makes hope that this virus can be fought.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bitgolden on August 16, 2020, 07:18:05 AM

People are forgetting that the country that said they found the vaccine is Russia and I seriously do not believe them.

I know that in order for the world to accept it as a vaccine the CDC of USA for example, or whatever your nation has or even WHO might have to accept it as a proper vaccine that could help right?

However how do we know that the ones they are sending out all the same, how do we know that the vaccine they said they found is actually the thing they are doing to you? Maybe there is a a million correct and trustworthy and actually helping people to recover or not get it type of correct vaccines but also another million that is something weird?

I am not an anti-vaccine person, I get that there are morons out there who are against all vaccines, I am just anti-Russia, there is a big difference, the moment UK or USA finds one, I will use it, not Russia or China.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Savemore on August 16, 2020, 08:05:09 AM
If we don't have a history of being exposed to the coronavirus, why are we willing to be injected with the vaccine and even though it's free but still, it would be better to refuse because basically we are still in good health, because it would be better to put those who need it more. There is still a lot of controversy about the vaccine itself due to the lack of clinical trials, but they will still campaign for vaccines, especially for medical workers and teachers. When a vaccine is still not found but the economic growth will still be carried out by implementing a new normal era but indeed, when the vaccine will really be accepted in the world then it is clear, Russia will take the lead from a more significant economic growth, but it is still not a guarantee for now.
Injecting vaccines are not mandatory after all, the health department of my country is finding a persons as a subject to try the vaccine that the russia invented. As of now, I do not heard in the news who became part of the 3rd trial of the vaccine. Even though there is now a vaccine, the economic growth is not yet fast as we thought. It will really take time in order for us to see the recovery of different economies. Millions of lives are been affected and thousands of business are now permanently close because of the pandemic. It is sad because a lot of countries enters recession but it can be fix if the experts conclude that the vaccine is safe.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Latviand on August 16, 2020, 08:59:18 AM
If that happens and after we got injected with that vaccine, we really don't know its side effect.

Probably it can affect our daily living even our health, like what you've said, we need more time to test the effectiveness of the vaccine for Covid-19. If this vaccine was found not effective for a long run then it can worsen our situation in this Covid-19 pandemic. This can also increase our inconvenience when it comes to operating businesses again.
Economic recovery is possible if people cooperated with the government to lessen the rate of transmission of this disease.

It really do need more time before we come back to our normal living, soon, this Covid-19 will just become a normal disease just like AIDS, HIV, and etc.



Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: plvbob0070 on August 16, 2020, 09:03:38 AM
Other countries are only depending on the creation of the vaccine because they can't fight the pandemic anymore. Just like the Philippines, the government is obviously just waiting and depending on the vaccine because if you will look at the current situation, they can't flatten the curve. Rushing the vaccine can be dangerous but in order to see the effectiveness of this vaccine, they need trials and it depends on people whether they join the trial or not. Personally, I won't participate in the trials and I will just wait until it is proven safe for the majority. For now, the best thing to do while waiting is to be cautious and always wash our hands.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: abhiseshakana on August 16, 2020, 09:46:01 AM
Most vaccines and medicine are up for trial and error. There are no other means for scientists to know if it will not be tested. Honestly, I am not willing to try something that might give complications to my body in the future. However, having a vaccine for COVID-19 is a big step for each country. We all know how devastated the economy became since the pandemic started. People might be able to get back to their normal lives and drastically the economy will recover.

To my knowledge, from different news in my country, there are 4 vaccines that have entered the mass trial stage around the world, namely Sinovac, Cansino, Moderna & Oxford. The one being piloted in my country is Sinovac. The corona vaccine is still in the trial phase but in the third stage of the corona vaccine, which is usually compared with similar vaccines that are already available. Because there is no Covid vaccine that has been circulated, then this third stage is likely to be passed by reason of a health emergency.

As for the corona drug, many have found that in China there are 10 drugs recommended by the Chinese government to treat Covid-19. Brazilian researchers also found a combination of the drug of hydroxychloroquine with the macrolide antibiotic Azithromycin which can 100% cure Covid-19.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Shasha80 on August 16, 2020, 09:46:52 AM
I agree with the finding of the COVID-19 vaccine that can create economic growth. Several countries are trying to do a vaccine trial
against it some volunteers. Hopefully the results are satisfactory and valid, then they can be produced in large quantities. But if
I am was offered a volunteer to get injection with trial vaccine for free I would refuse, not because it's free, but because it's related
side effects of the sample vaccine. I am not among those who dare to take risks with chemicals, such as a vaccine.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: rodskee on August 16, 2020, 10:37:08 AM
I agree with the finding of the COVID-19 vaccine that can create economic growth. Several countries are trying to do a vaccine trial
against it some volunteers. Hopefully the results are satisfactory and valid, then they can be produced in large quantities. But if
I am was offered a volunteer to get injection with trial vaccine for free I would refuse, not because it's free, but because it's related
side effects of the sample vaccine. I am not among those who dare to take risks with chemicals, such as a vaccine.

Me Too. Not because I don't support the government but I also not a fan of chemicals inside my body
though vaccine really the only solution for this pandemic.
The vaccine will help bringing  business back, means that it will reflect to countries economy pushing
it to rise  back and survive.
Only time will tell if this vaccine that are now available to fight covid-19 is a solution without any side
effects in coming years for those who will allow to take it.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 16, 2020, 11:40:17 AM
Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

I won't do it. First things first, I am not contaminated by the virus, I think we should prioritize those people so that the virus will be contained, right? A lot of things I've read says that the virus might still be dangerous. Also, I don't want to be the lab rat here. Saying that this is the vaccine but still using the "trial" seems very ironic to me.

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

The reason that a lot of leaders or government are willing to take the risks of being a lab rat for Russia is to immediately eliminate the virus and restart the economy, our country is one of those countries. I know that is for the good but being that desperate seems the worst for a lot of people.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: teosanru on August 16, 2020, 12:29:00 PM
It is known worldwide that russia had been into the last phase of the trials of Covid19 Vaccine. It already coordinated with other countries to participate in the last phase of trial and that is the mass vaccination of the said Vaccine for covid19. Some countries like Philippines is wiling to cooperate and even buy the Vaccine.

As I have read some articles about creating a Vaccine would take the usual time frame needed before it will be created and declare as safe could take up to several years like 5-25 years. In this case the Vaccine was being made rush and it could harm people especially in the plan for mass vaccnation. I can't imagine the devastating effect of the vaccine if found out later the bad side effects on human body. Like the Dengvaxia issue wherein most people get injected without dengue history will complicate dengue illness. The dengue will become severe when one injected with dengcaxia for those who had not been into dengue sickness before. The sad thing is that the vaccine effect will take up to 5 years. So, five years of being stress not to get dengue and a life threating vaccine being injected to the body is something awful.

Now, Covid19 vaccine could also be the same as with dengvaxia. I am not questioning the scientist or the russia tech and people doing their research on creating the vaccine. yes they are good but this is not about how they do the reasearch but the effect itself that is not still known and again vaccine making will take years before it can be declared as safe vaccine for the people.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

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Atleast talking about the economic growth. I think world economically has pretty much recovered from Covid. If you see the stock markets of every country they are at levels at which they were during beginning of Covid even the retail markets atleast in my area were flooded post lockdown opened. But yes if vaccine is proven to be effective we can see a big bull run in the economy as due to infused liquidity by almost every government there has been a lot of boost in the economies around the world. Rest it's too speculative to predict anything correctly as of now.

Talking about the vaccine part, I think it's somewhat choosing between the worse and the worse. Reminds me of a saying that harder choice is the choice between worse and the worst.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: LogitechMouse on August 16, 2020, 01:11:48 PM
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The shortest time possible to create a vaccine is 12-18 months and we saw the vaccine of Russia being created in less than a year and we all know that it skipped some of the clinical trials. Even though it has promising results in their country, it will not be the same in other countries.

Now regarding the Dengvaxia, I didn't tried to do some research on it but I only know that many people especially children are killed because of it. It can also happen again with the Sputnik V (Russian cure for COVID19) that is why they are doing some trials on it too and possible it will be used by public next year at least.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?
I'm not infected with the virus so I will use myself as an experiment tool and inject this vaccine to me.

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?
One effective vaccine can be a catalyst to the recovery of the economy of the countries. It can make the current economy reverse from down trend to uptrend but still it will take time. It can start for the economy to grow again for sure.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: JuSayCo on August 16, 2020, 04:27:21 PM
Its good to know that Russia is the first country who will soon released the covid-19 vaccine. But, I am not so happy at all. Yes, we all wanted the Cure, the most awaited vaccine to put an end with this devastating crisis that we are facing, but I have so much doubts because it was so obvious that this vaccine was made in a hurry.
So, my answer is no. I would never dare to try it unless I've seen more positive feedbacks. I just hope it will turns out well to everyone. Life now is very doubtful. Its either you will die with covid-19 or you will die with that vaccine. It really brought fear in me.
To answer the last question, if this vaccine will be successfully injected and the results are all good, then probably Russia will lead in the world's economic growth.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Kez1817 on August 16, 2020, 05:23:03 PM
It is known worldwide that russia had been into the last phase of the trials of Covid19 Vaccine. It already coordinated with other countries to participate in the last phase of trial and that is the mass vaccination of the said Vaccine for covid19. Some countries like Philippines is wiling to cooperate and even buy the Vaccine.

As I have read some articles about creating a Vaccine would take the usual time frame needed before it will be created and declare as safe could take up to several years like 5-25 years. In this case the Vaccine was being made rush and it could harm people especially in the plan for mass vaccnation. I can't imagine the devastating effect of the vaccine if found out later the bad side effects on human body. Like the Dengvaxia issue wherein most people get injected without dengue history will complicate dengue illness. The dengue will become severe when one injected with dengcaxia for those who had not been into dengue sickness before. The sad thing is that the vaccine effect will take up to 5 years. So, five years of being stress not to get dengue and a life threating vaccine being injected to the body is something awful.

Now, Covid19 vaccine could also be the same as with dengvaxia. I am not questioning the scientist or the russia tech and people doing their research on creating the vaccine. yes they are good but this is not about how they do the reasearch but the effect itself that is not still known and again vaccine making will take years before it can be declared as safe vaccine for the people.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

Edited -

I don't trust covid vaccine easily because i am afraid if it will like the dengvaxia before that caused death instead to cure. But if ever it will be proven effective against covid virus then it has a huge impact to the economy because through this vaccine ,the economy could recover again even not fast. People could go to work again without doubt and fear the virus because there is already a protection. Hoping that this vaccine from Russia has a positive result and could treat the covid patients easily even it is not yet included for the third and last phase trial of those tentative covid vaccine.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Reatim on August 16, 2020, 06:33:01 PM
Other countries are only depending on the creation of the vaccine because they can't fight the pandemic anymore. Just like the Philippines, the government is obviously just waiting and depending on the vaccine because if you will look at the current situation, they can't flatten the curve. Rushing the vaccine can be dangerous but in order to see the effectiveness of this vaccine, they need trials and it depends on people whether they join the trial or not. Personally, I won't participate in the trials and I will just wait until it is proven safe for the majority. For now, the best thing to do while waiting is to be cautious and always wash our hands.

The best thing to do is to prevent yourself being infected, there's no other options for third world country but to accept this challenged
and take the risk in taking this test trial. Only vaccines can help the economy as there are lots of people who continue suffering from both the
virus and lacking of foods to feed their families.
Government needs to find the quickest solutions and with people who are willing to take this test, they are moving towards hoping that
it will have the best results for them to live back and survive from this pandemic virus.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Emitdama on August 16, 2020, 06:49:59 PM
Things will not get back to normal right away just because there is a vaccine. Remember vaccine is something you get so that corona wouldn't hurt you as bad as it used to hurt people, so it is a prevention and not a solution. People who have it right now would not really be getting any good effects from the vaccination as far as results shows, they are still trying to recover the way we have been for months.

This vaccine would only allow you to be get a prevention shot, like if you are healthy and have no covid virus, you take the shot and if you end up with the virus you will not have this much bad results but something much smaller. Considering how easy it is to get infected the troubles are still there with probably less death, that is ALL this means.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Sanugarid on August 16, 2020, 07:32:08 PM
Most vaccines and medicine are up for trial and error. There are no other means for scientists to know if it will not be tested. Honestly, I am not willing to try something that might give complications to my body in the future.
But let us accept the fact the death for knowing the vaccine is inevitable though there are selective trials that are being made globally, still every one of us has different body composition, genetics and body reaction. We could not care less if there is a vaccine approved for all of us to use, or if we want to and honestly if there is known vaccine I would be willing to test it out myself, even the russian vaccine. Our scientists and doctors are just human, they don't know everything but let's hope for their enlightenment throughout this times. I feel like we are going to be in this situation for a couple of months more starting 2021.

However, having a vaccine for COVID-19 is a big step for each country. We all know how devastated the economy became since the pandemic started. People might be able to get back to their normal lives and drastically the economy will recover.
Every country now is making their move, testing every thing, studying the past coronavirus so they can get any information about it, once the formula is out it would be reproduce to be sold in other country for speedy take ins.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Savemore on August 17, 2020, 02:33:26 AM
Most vaccines and medicine are up for trial and error. There are no other means for scientists to know if it will not be tested. Honestly, I am not willing to try something that might give complications to my body in the future.
But let us accept the fact the death for knowing the vaccine is inevitable though there are selective trials that are being made globally, still every one of us has different body composition, genetics and body reaction. We could not care less if there is a vaccine approved for all of us to use, or if we want to and honestly if there is known vaccine I would be willing to test it out myself, even the russian vaccine. Our scientists and doctors are just human, they don't know everything but let's hope for their enlightenment throughout this times. I feel like we are going to be in this situation for a couple of months more starting 2021.

However, having a vaccine for COVID-19 is a big step for each country. We all know how devastated the economy became since the pandemic started. People might be able to get back to their normal lives and drastically the economy will recover.
Every country now is making their move, testing every thing, studying the past coronavirus so they can get any information about it, once the formula is out it would be reproduce to be sold in other country for speedy take ins.
The 3rd phase of is a large scale of testing which means that thousands of the individuals should be tested first before it get passed, the reason why the 3rd phase is important because the participants that will be tested should be different categories of racial and ethnic in order to know if this vaccine will be safe in all of the ethnic and races. After the phase 3 we will going to phase 4 which means that the vaccine is effected and passed the trial, in phase 4 the vaccine will be mass production and it will be marketed all over the world. This will be a life changing event in different countries because it is the way in order for us to see the bounce back of many economies.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Dorodha on August 17, 2020, 05:04:49 AM
The COVID19 vaccine is very helpful in economic development. Even though efforts for economic transition have already begun in the country everyone is realizing that the threat to the virus will not improve the business environment. That's why people are relying on the Covid-19 vaccine. Many times that has taken the form of conviction as a result lockdowns restrictions can be easily lifted and social distance restrictions can be relaxed.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Bezobraznike on August 17, 2020, 08:27:01 AM
The COVID19 vaccine is very helpful in economic development. Even though efforts for economic transition have already begun in the country everyone is realizing that the threat to the virus will not improve the business environment. That's why people are relying on the Covid-19 vaccine. Many times that has taken the form of conviction as a result lockdowns restrictions can be easily lifted and social distance restrictions can be relaxed.

   I assume you wanted to say that Covid-19 vaccines will be helpful. Nothing is clear with those vaccines, I read that Russia
finished their testing, other countries are close, but I think we are far from mass production. We need to be patient and that
will happen before the end of this year. I hope that vaccines will work, they can help all of us to get back in the normal!


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 17, 2020, 08:52:45 AM
The COVID19 vaccine is very helpful in economic development. Even though efforts for economic transition have already begun in the country everyone is realizing that the threat to the virus will not improve the business environment. That's why people are relying on the Covid-19 vaccine. Many times that has taken the form of conviction as a result lockdowns restrictions can be easily lifted and social distance restrictions can be relaxed.

   I assume you wanted to say that Covid-19 vaccines will be helpful. Nothing is clear with those vaccines, I read that Russia
finished their testing, other countries are close, but I think we are far from mass production. We need to be patient and that
will happen before the end of this year. I hope that vaccines will work, they can help all of us to get back in the normal!

Well, there are a lot of risks that sorrounds that vaccine and I don't think we should still be happy and contented at that. It may raise immunity to the virus but that would be useless if we are dead. I know that this is really important to countries especially those that can't stop the increasing cases and even breaking the records like our country but I hope it could save lives, you know, not save from the virus but results of many deaths.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on August 17, 2020, 09:15:09 AM
The COVID19 vaccine is very helpful in economic development. Even though efforts for economic transition have already begun in the country everyone is realizing that the threat to the virus will not improve the business environment. That's why people are relying on the Covid-19 vaccine. Many times that has taken the form of conviction as a result lockdowns restrictions can be easily lifted and social distance restrictions can be relaxed.

   I assume you wanted to say that Covid-19 vaccines will be helpful. Nothing is clear with those vaccines, I read that Russia
finished their testing, other countries are close, but I think we are far from mass production. We need to be patient and that
will happen before the end of this year. I hope that vaccines will work, they can help all of us to get back in the normal!

Well, there are a lot of risks that sorrounds that vaccine and I don't think we should still be happy and contented at that. It may raise immunity to the virus but that would be useless if we are dead. I know that this is really important to countries especially those that can't stop the increasing cases and even breaking the records like our country but I hope it could save lives, not just from the virus.
Testing the COVID-19 vaccine in Russia might not work and be a risk to cure COVID-19 patients and prevent the virus from spreading.  I assume the vaccine is not complete to defeat the virus, so this current vaccine might not be the solution for economic growth. I also heard that the Coronavirus has mutated in the Philippines, so we need to have patience and wait long enough for the vaccine to be complete to help us all to be back in our healthy lives.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 17, 2020, 10:17:27 AM
...I also heard that the Coronavirus has mutated in the Philippines, so we need to have patience and wait long enough for the vaccine to be complete to help us all to be back in our healthy lives.

This is the reason why our president is so eager and desperate to get the vaccine that he is accepting to make his people the lab rats for the vaccine Russia made. I think it is a really desperate move since we are really dropping the new cases and records in this pandemic. I don't know what is happening all I know is that we need the vaccine. I guess that the only answer.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: mezzaluna on August 17, 2020, 02:59:50 PM
It is known worldwide that russia had been into the last phase of the trials of Covid19 Vaccine. It already coordinated with other countries to participate in the last phase of trial and that is the mass vaccination of the said Vaccine for covid19. Some countries like Philippines is wiling to cooperate and even buy the Vaccine.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?


That would be a big step for both of the country since we can see that Philippines is now that has the most Active cases of Corona Virus in the Southeast Asia and Russia is willing to give them the vaccine for them to stop spreading the virus. That would make everyone feel glad but they must make sure that just because they have gotten the vaccine, that is not a reason for them to be carefree since they will need to reconstruct some of the Economical Damage that has been done during the lock downs and quarantine periods.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Inkdatar on August 17, 2020, 03:01:59 PM
...I also heard that the Coronavirus has mutated in the Philippines, so we need to have patience and wait long enough for the vaccine to be complete to help us all to be back in our healthy lives.

This is the reason why our president is so eager and desperate to get the vaccine that he is accepting to make his people the lab rats for the vaccine Russia made. I think it is a really desperate move since we are really dropping the new cases and records in this pandemic. I don't know what is happening all I know is that we need the vaccine. I guess that the only answer.
That’s true the President here in our country is really desperate to resolve this pandemic and even the economy status is in a bad shape. With regards to vaccines also our President here enacts to volunteered first to be vaccinated once it came out to our country given from Russia. There’s no true assurance for this vaccine as some are still in the trial phase and take more years to be tested. But let's do hope that this vaccine could produce good results to many people as we are really craved to be back into normal situations.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Kasabus on August 17, 2020, 03:14:19 PM
...I also heard that the Coronavirus has mutated in the Philippines, so we need to have patience and wait long enough for the vaccine to be complete to help us all to be back in our healthy lives.

This is the reason why our president is so eager and desperate to get the vaccine that he is accepting to make his people the lab rats for the vaccine Russia made. I think it is a really desperate move since we are really dropping the new cases and records in this pandemic. I don't know what is happening all I know is that we need the vaccine. I guess that the only answer.
That’s true the President here in our country is really desperate to resolve this pandemic and even the economy status is in a bad shape. With regards to vaccines also our President here enacts to volunteered first to be vaccinated once it came out to our country given from Russia. There’s no true assurance for this vaccine as some are still in the trial phase and take more years to be tested. But let's do hope that this vaccine could produce good results to many people as we are really craved to be back into normal situations.
I understand that the President is really in desperate right now accepting the offer from Russia because the economy is fastly moving down and some businesses are already struggling to remain open even if the funds is already running out. If this problem will not be immediately responded, there are chances that the country's economy will totally shut down. So we should hope for the best that this vaccine will be the answer to bring back the normal state of the country.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: The cure on August 18, 2020, 12:30:33 AM
Honestly, if that vaccine will offer to me or to my my family i will not accept it even though it's free. Because it has not been that long to observe or test and i think they still need more time to make it sure that it is safe to use as a good defense for covid19. I remember dengvaxia vaccine who killed many children's lives, it was so terrifying, it's so sad if the solution you can think of to resolve the problem will might have the harmful effect to you. Let's not rush things, we need to be patient and always take care of ourselves while the vaccine is not yet ready and fully tested.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: MCobian on August 18, 2020, 04:36:23 AM
The COVID-19 vaccine is currently in trials in several countries, of course this is good news. But for mass production and injection
to many people, I don't think it's a wise decision. Because the side effects are not known and can also be the biggest risk can cause
death. As happened with the dengvaxia vaccine, it has killed more than 600 people, most of them the victims were children. Based
on this, I would refuse the injection of the COVID-19 vaccine which is still in the trial phase, although for free. But if the COVID-19
vaccine proves to be effective, surely economic growth around the world will be go up soon.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: KnightElite on August 18, 2020, 04:54:13 AM
...I also heard that the Coronavirus has mutated in the Philippines, so we need to have patience and wait long enough for the vaccine to be complete to help us all to be back in our healthy lives.

This is the reason why our president is so eager and desperate to get the vaccine that he is accepting to make his people the lab rats for the vaccine Russia made. I think it is a really desperate move since we are really dropping the new cases and records in this pandemic. I don't know what is happening all I know is that we need the vaccine. I guess that the only answer.
That’s true the President here in our country is really desperate to resolve this pandemic and even the economy status is in a bad shape. With regards to vaccines also our President here enacts to volunteered first to be vaccinated once it came out to our country given from Russia. There’s no true assurance for this vaccine as some are still in the trial phase and take more years to be tested. But let's do hope that this vaccine could produce good results to many people as we are really craved to be back into normal situations.
I understand that the President is really in desperate right now accepting the offer from Russia because the economy is fastly moving down and some businesses are already struggling to remain open even if the funds is already running out. If this problem will not be immediately responded, there are chances that the country's economy will totally shut down. So we should hope for the best that this vaccine will be the answer to bring back the normal state of the country.
The good thing is, many scientists believe that the vaccine from Russia will be safe for all human races but still there is risk involved so it is not yet 100 guaranteed. I also heard from the news that the president is finding persons who want to volunteer in terms of subject for vaccine and there is a funny part because a lot of news outlet in my countries saying that they are finding "guinea" pig because the vaccine is not yet passed the phase 3 and for them it is unsafe. The economy is keep shrinking and a lot of stores and businesses are now affected, actually the unemployment rate is keep rising and it is so sad because millions of people are affected and keep worrying on how they will afford their necessities.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 18, 2020, 01:31:57 PM
The good thing is, many scientists believe that the vaccine from Russia will be safe for all human races but still there is risk involved so it is not yet 100 guaranteed. I also heard from the news that the president is finding persons who want to volunteer in terms of subject for vaccine and there is a funny part because a lot of news outlet in my countries saying that they are finding "guinea" pig because the vaccine is not yet passed the phase 3 and for them it is unsafe. The economy is keep shrinking and a lot of stores and businesses are now affected, actually the unemployment rate is keep rising and it is so sad because millions of people are affected and keep worrying on how they will afford their necessities.

Well, it is just a gamble for all of us now. We can see how the government are really struggling to contain the virus and I think the only way for them to stop these new high in terms of new cases is to gamble ourselves in what they say, Russia's vaccine. Being a lab rat is really bad to hear but I hope it is not worst than dengvaxia, that is really traumatic.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Raflesia on August 18, 2020, 03:35:32 PM
The good thing is, many scientists believe that the vaccine from Russia will be safe for all human races but still there is risk involved so it is not yet 100 guaranteed. I also heard from the news that the president is finding persons who want to volunteer in terms of subject for vaccine and there is a funny part because a lot of news outlet in my countries saying that they are finding "guinea" pig because the vaccine is not yet passed the phase 3 and for them it is unsafe. The economy is keep shrinking and a lot of stores and businesses are now affected, actually the unemployment rate is keep rising and it is so sad because millions of people are affected and keep worrying on how they will afford their necessities.

Well, it is just a gamble for all of us now. We can see how the government are really struggling to contain the virus and I think the only way for them to stop these new high in terms of new cases is to gamble ourselves in what they say, Russia's vaccine. Being a lab rat is really bad to hear but I hope it is not worst than dengvaxia, that is really traumatic.
Everything must be at stake to deal with new cases of the current pandemic even in my country have tested the vaccine test I don't know if this will work or not which is clear many experts still think that a vaccine has not actually been found and it will take a long time to test it out.
well, the government must be prepared to face this challenge where there will be more cases if it does not risk it to save.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: aioc on August 18, 2020, 03:53:37 PM


Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

Edited -

I know the issue about Dengvacia I have second thought on getting that injection coming from Russia I have second thought on any vaccine that was hurriedly tested just to address a particular virus, I just hope I will not get CoVid so I will not get shot of that vaccine, but I don't know I will cross the bridge when I get there.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bearexin on August 18, 2020, 06:49:55 PM
Honestly, if that vaccine will offer to me or to my my family i will not accept it even though it's free. Because it has not been that long to observe or test and i think they still need more time to make it sure that it is safe to use as a good defense for covid19.

But when the WHO has approved it, there is only psychological fear left among people like you said. I cannot think why people are so afraid of the virus in first instance when the dead rate is so low and then once a vaccine is approved after rigorous testing why are people just too worried about its authenticity.


Let's not rush things, we need to be patient and always take care of ourselves while the vaccine is not yet ready and fully tested.

But at the same time we need to have faith in the medical science and if they are making a vaccine after almost 6 months of the virus been openly killing people then surely they must have done their research, I heard in some countries people don't cooperate and even attack the doctors when they test positive for corona and try to run away as if the doctor are responsible for it.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: lixer on August 18, 2020, 09:05:05 PM
The COVID19 vaccine is very helpful in economic development. Even though efforts for economic transition have already begun in the country everyone is realizing that the threat to the virus will not improve the business environment. That's why people are relying on the Covid-19 vaccine. Many times that has taken the form of conviction as a result lockdowns restrictions can be easily lifted and social distance restrictions can be relaxed.

   I assume you wanted to say that Covid-19 vaccines will be helpful. Nothing is clear with those vaccines, I read that Russia
finished their testing, other countries are close, but I think we are far from mass production. We need to be patient and that
will happen before the end of this year. I hope that vaccines will work, they can help all of us to get back in the normal!
Even when the vaccines are made and registered globally, there will always be a problem of how to distribute the vaccine and what cost will it bear on the common man because in under developed countries you cannot expect people to afford a costly vaccine and the demand being enormous the vaccine might be out of stock almost all the time and hence the cost might be high.

I am not expecting the vaccine to be made available for everyone until the mid of next year because when the first wave of vaccines are rolled out, there will be high priority for VIPs and higher society initially while the covid-19 spreads highest among the rural areas.

But at least having a vaccine means that we are moving in the right direction if even too slow to be proud about.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: FanEagle on August 18, 2020, 10:06:13 PM
Russia is still claiming that they are in production but I think the lack of medical research and direct human experiments which proved that it works created a bit of trouble in the world. Did they find a vaccination for covid? They sure did and most places say it actually works as well, however how did they find it?

When you have a vaccination that you are not sure if it will work or not and give it to humans as an experiment that is a very very dangerous thing to do, which is probably the issue they are going through right now. When that is all cleared up and forgiven people will just say no matter how it was discovered, the thing that matters is it is discovered. When it becomes mainstream and hundreds of thousands of people gets it every day, we are going to see economy grow incredibly high.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: yohananaomi on August 20, 2020, 06:08:56 AM
Russia is still claiming that they are in production but I think the lack of medical research and direct human experiments which proved that it works created a bit of trouble in the world. Did they find a vaccination for covid? They sure did and most places say it actually works as well, however how did they find it?

When you have a vaccination that you are not sure if it will work or not and give it to humans as an experiment that is a very very dangerous thing to do, which is probably the issue they are going through right now. When that is all cleared up and forgiven people will just say no matter how it was discovered, the thing that matters is it is discovered. When it becomes mainstream and hundreds of thousands of people gets it every day, we are going to see economy grow incredibly high.

I have also read a journal about the discovery of a vaccine from Russia, where many other countries doubt what the country has done with the discovery of the vaccine. because they reasoned that no scientific journal could be provided from the results of this research. But from the debate, I myself really appreciate the speed with which their country is doing, because we know that we are chased by time to be able to quickly end this pandemic.

China has also made vaccines as well and has distributed my country to continue to be analyzed and adjusted to the country's culture which might be different. the good news is that the vaccine is already in the third phase, which has been tested in humans. And this is again the time that is really needed to be able to solve all of this, because the information obtained if the experiment is successful can only be produced in 2021. Of course, once again we are being chased by that time.

the latest news actually came from a university in my country that they have found the covid-19 drug so it is no longer a vaccine and it has been tested with 90% success, but now it is being registered with the department that is authorized to issue drug production permits, hopefully this is the most anticipated renewable news .


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: erikoy on August 20, 2020, 06:26:51 AM

the latest news actually came from a university in my country that they have found the covid-19 drug so it is no longer a vaccine and it has been tested with 90% success, but now it is being registered with the department that is authorized to issue drug production permits, hopefully this is the most anticipated renewable news .

That is indeed a good news for all to fight against Covid19. This is very interesting news actually knowing that we were being in a new normal for few months already and it is not really good to always do the minimum health prevention by wearing facemas, face shields and doing social distancing which I think it is difficult to follow especially in crowded areas like public market and malls.

If this drugs really created then hopefully it will be available worldwide. But for now I did not hear any news regarding to it. Is it a fakenews?


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Janation on August 20, 2020, 10:25:23 AM
Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

I wouldn't do it.

I know that it is a vaccine but there are no insurance that I would be able to take that vaccine without any side effects. I've been reading some articles that says that it is still not that proven so our country is taking the risks of being a lab rat because of the records of cases we are breaking. I will take it if it is proven safe.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 20, 2020, 11:02:55 AM
Russia is still claiming that they are in production but I think the lack of medical research and direct human experiments which proved that it works created a bit of trouble in the world. Did they find a vaccination for covid? They sure did and most places say it actually works as well, however how did they find it?

When you have a vaccination that you are not sure if it will work or not and give it to humans as an experiment that is a very very dangerous thing to do, which is probably the issue they are going through right now. When that is all cleared up and forgiven people will just say no matter how it was discovered, the thing that matters is it is discovered. When it becomes mainstream and hundreds of thousands of people gets it every day, we are going to see economy grow incredibly high.

A lot of doctors still are not satisfied with the vaccine, some of them are still saying that they won't administer the vaccine in their hospitals, some says that it would be a risk. With this vaccine, safe or not, we are close on getting that economic rebuild though there are still those doubts and assumptions so I guess we will still wait until they successfully get through Phase III.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: nasipadang on August 20, 2020, 02:05:44 PM
Honestly, I have the same opinion with @OP because the vaccine was made in a rush, but if the vaccine is not made soon then it is likely to add more people to die. I believe the governments of every country are doing their best to prevent the worst because it has to do with human life.

For the question I don't want because I am not affected by the coronavirus and until now I am still healthy and have carried out health protocols from the government, so I cannot receive vaccines even for free though.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: ecnalubma on August 20, 2020, 04:02:00 PM
Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?
No way, I think its better not to get caught by this virus and boost our immune system. Honestly vaccines are more scarier than viruses, it could kill humans without warnings.

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?
Economic growth is not guarantee after this pandemic, thousands of businesses closed and millions of people lost their jobs but maybe in slow process we can all recover from this economic catastrophe.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: pragna on August 20, 2020, 04:29:34 PM
It is known worldwide that russia had been into the last phase of the trials of Covid19 Vaccine. It already coordinated with other countries to participate in the last phase of trial and that is the mass vaccination of the said Vaccine for covid19. Some countries like Philippines is wiling to cooperate and even buy the Vaccine.

As I have read some articles about creating a Vaccine would take the usual time frame needed before it will be created and declare as safe could take up to several years like 5-25 years. In this case the Vaccine was being made rush and it could harm people especially in the plan for mass vaccnation. I can't imagine the devastating effect of the vaccine if found out later the bad side effects on human body. Like the Dengvaxia issue wherein most people get injected without dengue history will complicate dengue illness. The dengue will become severe when one injected with dengcaxia for those who had not been into dengue sickness before. The sad thing is that the vaccine effect will take up to 5 years. So, five years of being stress not to get dengue and a life threating vaccine being injected to the body is something awful.

Now, Covid19 vaccine could also be the same as with dengvaxia. I am not questioning the scientist or the russia tech and people doing their research on creating the vaccine. yes they are good but this is not about how they do the reasearch but the effect itself that is not still known and again vaccine making will take years before it can be declared as safe vaccine for the people.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

Edited -

I will see it two different way like

01.  Powerful countries wants to show their merit power in vaccine like their ammunition.
02.  Secondly i will say they are thinking business with the vaccine that first come first serve basis.

Yes for vaccine 20-25 years needed that we saw previous vaccine. Now we are technologically updated but we can not come 25 years to 6 months for final deceleration of a vaccine. So there is clear that those who made deceleration, surely there is problem.

No doubt that if it goes effective economy will back its previous position and everybody will be gainer.

thanks.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: adzino on August 20, 2020, 04:59:58 PM
It is known worldwide that russia had been into the last phase of the trials of Covid19 Vaccine. It already coordinated with other countries to participate in the last phase of trial and that is the mass vaccination of the said Vaccine for covid19. Some countries like Philippines is wiling to cooperate and even buy the Vaccine.

As I have read some articles about creating a Vaccine would take the usual time frame needed before it will be created and declare as safe could take up to several years like 5-25 years. In this case the Vaccine was being made rush and it could harm people especially in the plan for mass vaccnation. I can't imagine the devastating effect of the vaccine if found out later the bad side effects on human body. Like the Dengvaxia issue wherein most people get injected without dengue history will complicate dengue illness. The dengue will become severe when one injected with dengcaxia for those who had not been into dengue sickness before. The sad thing is that the vaccine effect will take up to 5 years. So, five years of being stress not to get dengue and a life threating vaccine being injected to the body is something awful.

They entered the final phase? When did you even complete the first two phases? You won't find any data about how the first two phases went. We even doubt if they actually completed the first two phases.
And yeah, it is going to be dangerous. Read about the 1976 swine flu vaccine mass immunization and how it ended.


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Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

I doubt I would. Don't want to get paralyzed or fucked up for the rest of my life. I would rather wait for a well developed vaccine.
I don't think the vaccine itself will case huge changes to the economy, but once it helps to end the pandemic, the economy is going back to normal.



Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: el kaka22 on August 20, 2020, 05:21:11 PM
I feel like all of this will eventually happen. Think about it, the "common flu" was so dire that it was killing so many people, plus the technology wasn't that much improved at the time neither so it actually become something very deadly for the whole world and become something very dangerous. Right now it has a pill, a medicine, a vaccine to prevent it, basically everything you could consider to get better in a week without having any permanent damage in your body, you would basically recover like nothing happened.

Well, same will eventually happen to covid hopefully, a pill a drug a vaccine whatever happens but all of them will get together and basically fix everything. Economy is basically reacting to this situation because we are seeing things how it could recover.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: rodskee on August 20, 2020, 06:01:45 PM
Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

Edited -

I prefer to wait for the government update because I don't want to get injected with the vaccine. If that vaccine can help people and cure them, I think that will be good news because that means people can get their health again and get home and work again. If many people can get a cure, we will see people can get work as before. They can back to their office or continue the business. And with the vaccine available, we will see the economy will start growing.

Yeah right. Before taking any chance it's best to wait for any updates from those who already take the vaccine,
see the actual results before making your move.
There are still things that needed to consider about this vaccine and even it's already available you still have to
think twice or more if possible to have a much better results.
In terms to economy, there's no doubt that once the vaccine or drug to cure this virus will be available, it will
carry the economy to survive and try to comeback from the original state.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: panganib999 on August 20, 2020, 09:07:39 PM
Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

(1) I think this way is impossible to make happen for clinical trials are made out of hospitals and it is improper to ask door to doors of who would like to volunteer for the trial for it can make commotion in the community that such thing exists. Also, even if I would be asked to be one of the individuals to try that vaccine trial for human samples, I won't bother to make an agreement for I would just take the chance to get vaccinated once the trials have been done and proven to be a real cure with no bad side effects on humans. I do not want to be a little sacrifice for I do value my life the most.

(2) Probably once proven that the vaccine created by Russia is a real cure that would end this crisis we have with the covid-19 pandemic, for sure the economy will be back into normal once again but it will undergo a process for every country have experienced a great challenge most specially when it comes to financial. Once the vaccine have been available in the market, surely the country who have created the vaccine will grow its economy more and the other countries will follow but then at least all are heading towards an improvement in terms of the economic growth and development which is important.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: erikoy on August 21, 2020, 01:54:38 AM
What's the need of injecting the vaccine for free. Already the vaccines were on the human trials. Only the final decision outcome needs to be analysed, most were successful. Whether it has got any side effects needs to be analysed and the component change has to be done. This will take time, and this is the reason why people don't allow to inject the vaccine for free. Hope we'll get the vaccine before this year end.
The last phase of trial could take few months or even  years because the side effect might be feel later on when something will going to happen and the vaccine will just going to complicate things. This is why others had speculated that after the last phase of trial if it will be done in a rush higher chances if it will be given to the mass the result will either be good or relatively bad and make things worst.

So, if there are free vaccines in my place I'd rather not get it and instead will wait for some time before getting the vaccine.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: iyamoxjhian on August 21, 2020, 05:05:19 AM
well i think the third phase would be more crucial..because clinical trials usually will be tested massively. and we know that infected patience have different medical cases so if it would be tried to them, let say for example.. patience A response to the vaccine might be different from case B and C so therefore they have to analyze and study it again..especially that most of the common patience being affected by Covid 19 are those who have critical illness and especially senior citizens and there were babies and toddlers being affected too..so they have to look at it also..plus there were different medical histories especially for the senior citizens with critical illness.. it would be risky if there were side effects and it was being tested on them. but since they're catching up time to formulize the vaccines but they should consider the importance of life too...we only have 1 life and it can never be back again once you've made a mistake.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: shoreno on August 21, 2020, 05:59:18 AM
well i think the third phase would be more crucial..because clinical trials usually will be tested massively. and we know that infected patience have different medical cases so if it would be tried to them, let say for example.. patience A response to the vaccine might be different from case B and C so therefore they have to analyze and study it again..especially that most of the common patience being affected by Covid 19 are those who have critical illness and especially senior citizens and there were babies and toddlers being affected too..so they have to look at it also..plus there were different medical histories especially for the senior citizens with critical illness.. it would be risky if there were side effects and it was being tested on them. but since they're catching up time to formulize the vaccines but they should consider the importance of life too...we only have 1 life and it can never be back again once you've made a mistake.

so the phase 1 and 2 of the trials of the vaccine are already done ? until what phase could it take .  i have no idea on vaccines but if this is the only key to perfect it i will sacrifice and wait because you said its too dangerous if the vaccine is released on its early phase or when its not yet ready .

 they can test it on non humans and that will be much safer than taking the test directly to Humans  .


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Xanxus024 on August 21, 2020, 09:34:46 AM
It is known worldwide that russia had been into the last phase of the trials of Covid19 Vaccine. It already coordinated with other countries to participate in the last phase of trial and that is the mass vaccination of the said Vaccine for covid19. Some countries like Philippines is wiling to cooperate and even buy the Vaccine.

As I have read some articles about creating a Vaccine would take the usual time frame needed before it will be created and declare as safe could take up to several years like 5-25 years. In this case the Vaccine was being made rush and it could harm people especially in the plan for mass vaccnation. I can't imagine the devastating effect of the vaccine if found out later the bad side effects on human body. Like the Dengvaxia issue wherein most people get injected without dengue history will complicate dengue illness. The dengue will become severe when one injected with dengcaxia for those who had not been into dengue sickness before. The sad thing is that the vaccine effect will take up to 5 years. So, five years of being stress not to get dengue and a life threating vaccine being injected to the body is something awful.

Now, Covid19 vaccine could also be the same as with dengvaxia. I am not questioning the scientist or the russia tech and people doing their research on creating the vaccine. yes they are good but this is not about how they do the reasearch but the effect itself that is not still known and again vaccine making will take years before it can be declared as safe vaccine for the people.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

Edited -

Well before the release of the vaccine it has 4 phases as far as I know 1st phase animal testing which include if the reaction of vaccine is effective, 2nd phase is to human they will test it to hundreds of people and if its effective they will go to the 3rd phase which is a thousand of lives are in the line and it is critical then 4th phase the release of the vaccine in selected countries and for sure the economic growth of each country will rise little by little the worst case scenario if the vaccine is not compatible in different person it cause death which is the downfall.


Title: Re: COVID19 vắc xin và tăng trưởng kinh tế?
Post by: ilovealtcoins on August 21, 2020, 09:50:09 AM
I think 2020 is a failed year for the world economy. By the end of this year, there will be a lot of people going bankrupt. Facing the stressful epidemic situation, I have faith that the fact that Russia has successfully tested the vaccine and put it into production is a sign of joy. In 2020, maybe the world economy will be better. Currently, because of the epidemic, people can only spend money, not make money. It also means that the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. There are many more billionaires in this pandemic. They hold stocks and their value increases rapidly.
As for the free trial of the vaccine I don't think it should be because it poses a risk to your health. You should wait for official vaccines from such manufacturers to be safer.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: AicecreaME on August 21, 2020, 11:59:08 AM
The clinically approved vaccine would really take some time to be produced and it would undergo certain stages for it to be declared safe for use.

It's all over the news that Russia has approved a vaccine called Sputnit V and it was criticized by many including the WHO. It was said that the vaccine wasn't adequately tested and there's still no enough evidence of its safety and effectiveness that's why it's really risky to be administered to people. I've read that it's only tested to a two small scale studies and that's already alarming since they didn't even publish the results of those studies. If I were to be injected for it for free, I wouldn't risk it.

As of the moment, everything is still uncertain. Scientists all over the world are developing vaccines, but we know the time frame of producing such takes 5 years or more. We're actually taking a leap of faith right now because we really hope to prevent the sudden spike and surge of the virus.

If ever a safe vaccine would be produced, the economies of each country would rise again, but for sure it's not going to be easy and in an instant. The process of recovering pinned down economy will be difficult. It would take months and years to form again the stability of a country. So let's hope to have a safe vaccine to use sooner and everything will then follow.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: thesmallgod on August 21, 2020, 01:45:02 PM
numerous countries have been recording success with a country like china already patenting some of the vaccines. The issue of the vaccine can be related to the polio vaccine that was subsidized and is even given to infants freely by so many countries. It was recorded that Bill gate plays a major role in making the vaccine available freely. Even though many countries have already pre-order the Russian covid19 vaccine but as soon as there are many vaccines available, it will be subsidized and will even be available and given freely in many countries


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: 50 Cent on August 21, 2020, 05:02:11 PM
fod bless you all. stay safe
many countries are now struggling and battling to find a vaccine for COVID-19 as soon as possible. in my country (Indonesia), the beginning of 2021 Q1 will be the year of vaccine trials. I hope this pandemic ends soon.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: usekevin on August 21, 2020, 06:23:49 PM
fod bless you all. stay safe
many countries are now struggling and battling to find a vaccine for COVID-19 as soon as possible. in my country (Indonesia), the beginning of 2021 Q1 will be the year of vaccine trials. I hope this pandemic ends soon.


Now it's seems some vaccine will reach the market soon. Some are trying to sell it and earn more profit from it. Some trustees trying to make a vaccine free to reach all affected people. We will able to see which will happen only when it occur. The pandemic situation will end with this december and we will have a wonderful 2021.With this good hope, we will wait till get into normal life.


Title: Re: COVID19 vắc xin và tăng trưởng kinh tế?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on August 21, 2020, 06:59:11 PM
I think 2020 is a failed year for the world economy. By the end of this year, there will be a lot of people going bankrupt. Facing the stressful epidemic situation, I have faith that the fact that Russia has successfully tested the vaccine and put it into production is a sign of joy. In 2020, maybe the world economy will be better. Currently, because of the epidemic, people can only spend money, not make money. It also means that the poor get poorer and the rich get richer. There are many more billionaires in this pandemic. They hold stocks and their value increases rapidly.
As for the free trial of the vaccine I don't think it should be because it poses a risk to your health. You should wait for official vaccines from such manufacturers to be safer.
2020 is a failed year for 3rd world countries, all of those holes have been revealed that we aren't capable of handling things like this pandemic especially when you have corrupt politicians. China after 6 months of downfall, their economy is already speeding up. But I hope that all of the countries have the ability to recover very fast.

An official vaccine is better than using a vaccine without any trials, we are gonna be a lab rat if that happens.


Title: Re: COVID19 vắc xin và tăng trưởng kinh tế?
Post by: suvo05 on August 21, 2020, 08:11:39 PM

An official vaccine is better than using a vaccine without any trials, we are gonna be a lab rat if that happens.

This a great point of concern, any kind of vaccine takes years to measures all its effects and side effects but the current position of the world is such that the people/ Gov cannot afford to wait for that long procedure.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bits4books on August 22, 2020, 11:56:45 AM
For some reason, it seems to me that the economy will return to its previous indicators (beginning of 2020) much earlier than mass vaccination will begin. All charts are already almost at the same levels as they were before the total February drop - and this is assuming that all available vaccines are either still in testing or under development


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: wiss19 on August 22, 2020, 02:44:30 PM
Hmm, rushing towards this would be a risky thing. If they are to bring the vaccine where I live I don’t think I am ready for it, until they are able to prove that the vaccine can be reliable in the treatment of the virus and also prove that there is not going to be any bad aftereffects.

If not that, then I am not ready for it, I would prefer to stay clear from it. I once opened Facebook, and that was earlier this month, and they were doing a survey about the Coronavirus awareness, and one of the questions there was whether people are ready to vaccinated, I gave my answer as no, I wish I was able to see other people’s answers.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Emitdama on August 22, 2020, 04:43:28 PM
Hmm, rushing towards this would be a risky thing. If they are to bring the vaccine where I live I don’t think I am ready for it, until they are able to prove that the vaccine can be reliable in the treatment of the virus and also prove that there is not going to be any bad aftereffects.

If not that, then I am not ready for it, I would prefer to stay clear from it. I once opened Facebook, and that was earlier this month, and they were doing a survey about the Coronavirus awareness, and one of the questions there was whether people are ready to vaccinated, I gave my answer as no, I wish I was able to see other people’s answers.
Yeah, I’m afraid of taking any vaccine if there is no proof that there wouldn’t be any side effects and that it actually works. Then another question I do ask myself is that if everyone continues to be afraid of the vaccine how are we going to know that it actually works and that there are no side effects? Lol okay I am asking this because I don’t really know the process that goes into creating vaccines, but I’ve heard that they test it on animals (not really sure of that), but is that enough to validate the vaccines? ??? Damn, this is going to be a big issue, but seriously I am not ready for any vaccine if there is no proof.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: smyslov on August 22, 2020, 05:25:06 PM


Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?



Our country is in fact made an agreement To Russia to participate in their testing stage and Russia promised us to give their vaccine to us when they finally released and approve it for commercial I don't know it's hard to made a decision you know your country needs a vaccine and your country needs to go back to work, but there is some risk if the vaccine did not go through the right testing phase, I may have to decide which one to choose if the time has come.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Eternad on August 22, 2020, 05:28:18 PM
Yeah, I’m afraid of taking any vaccine if there is no proof that there wouldn’t be any side effects and that it actually works. Then another question I do ask myself is that if everyone continues to be afraid of the vaccine how are we going to know that it actually works and that there are no side effects? Lol okay I am asking this because I don’t really know the process that goes into creating vaccines, but I’ve heard that they test it on animals (not really sure of that), but is that enough to validate the vaccines? ??? Damn, this is going to be a big issue, but seriously I am not ready for any vaccine if there is no proof.
I prefer not to have vaccines too as there is also a previous misuse of vaccines in my country regarding dengue. Many fears having vaccines now. If covid vaccine will be proven effective and already tested in different countries that maybe the only time my country will procure a lot as we almost lose our budget now and I don't think mass vaccine is in the budget yet. We're still on the process of recovering or starting to recover in economy as we were still in lockdown.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: k@suy on August 22, 2020, 06:27:47 PM
For some reason, it seems to me that the economy will return to its previous indicators (beginning of 2020) much earlier than mass vaccination will begin. All charts are already almost at the same levels as they were before the total February drop - and this is assuming that all available vaccines are either still in testing or under development
Yes I believe in that as  well. As soon as the vaccine will take place in the market, we can expect that the economy will rise again and everything will go back to its place slowly and the economy will recover but the whole recovery will be on 2022 I think. This pandemic creates a large impact in everything especially in our market.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: oHnK on August 22, 2020, 06:51:12 PM
If the vaccine has been made, I'm not interested in volunteering to try it.  I thought the first vaccine must have had a lot of flaws and I didn't want to take big risks and risk my life.  but I believe that with the covid-19 vaccine in the future, world economic conditions will soon improve.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: oHnK on August 22, 2020, 07:14:14 PM
If we don't have a history of being exposed to the coronavirus, why are we willing to be injected with the vaccine and even though it's free but still, it would be better to refuse because basically we are still in good health, because it would be better to put those who need it more. There is still a lot of controversy about the vaccine itself due to the lack of clinical trials, but they will still campaign for vaccines, especially for medical workers and teachers. When a vaccine is still not found but the economic growth will still be carried out by implementing a new normal era but indeed, when the vaccine will really be accepted in the world then it is clear, Russia will take the lead from a more significant economic growth, but it is still not a guarantee for now.
Injecting vaccines are not mandatory after all, the health department of my country is finding a persons as a subject to try the vaccine that the russia invented. As of now, I do not heard in the news who became part of the 3rd trial of the vaccine. Even though there is now a vaccine, the economic growth is not yet fast as we thought. It will really take time in order for us to see the recovery of different economies. Millions of lives are been affected and thousands of business are now permanently close because of the pandemic. It is sad because a lot of countries enters recession but it can be fix if the experts conclude that the vaccine is safe.

I agree with your opinion even though Russia has announced they have made a vaccine for Covid-19. Until the vaccine is declared completely safe to use and proven to cure and prevent. The world economy will not improve as quickly as expected. There will be many stages that each country must go through to improve the economy in the country. There must be many social safety nets to improve the economy in that country.  This will take time to resolve the devastating effects of the spread of Covid-19.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: jossiel on August 22, 2020, 09:06:41 PM
If the vaccine has been made, I'm not interested in volunteering to try it.  I thought the first vaccine must have had a lot of flaws and I didn't want to take big risks and risk my life.  but I believe that with the covid-19 vaccine in the future, world economic conditions will soon improve.
There will be certain clinical trials or several tests before it's going to be approved as a working vaccine. They are working on it but it doesn't mean that they will supply it to the world or countries who wants to order it without the proper process of testing it.

AFAIK, the vaccine race is on and most of those countries that are into it are now in the clinical phase 3 trial which is likely the last test of verifying if the vaccine works. Then if it's approved by higher governed bodies of WHO or the health agency particular to that country, they will be in the phase 4 which is the registration of it to market.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bayu7adi on August 23, 2020, 01:31:18 AM
even though a vaccine is available, I believe it will only be consumed by the closed-minded few. for people who are aware of the bad vicious circle of high-ranking world and country leaders, they are more likely to pay attention to what will happen to this covid

honestly I really hate this pandemic, because my sleep time is getting more and my main job is hampered. I hope that with the vaccine, the economy can recover, even though I would prefer not to use the vaccine


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Janation on August 23, 2020, 02:50:00 AM

An official vaccine is better than using a vaccine without any trials, we are gonna be a lab rat if that happens.

This a great point of concern, any kind of vaccine takes years to measures all its effects and side effects but the current position of the world is such that the people/ Gov cannot afford to wait for that long procedure.

And they need the vaccine desperately.

People and the Government here in the country are so dependent on the vaccine that the government even accepted that they may be the lab rats of the vaccine of Russia. As far as I know the vaccine are still not done with Phase III, China's vaccine also started its Phase III trials in Argentina so it is really a matter time for the vaccine to be produced. Maybe next year, it will be easier.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 23, 2020, 11:07:01 AM
I don't believe in a vaccine at all. Virus is mutating all the time. During the Spanish Flu they introduced many vaccines that turned out ineffective.

It is not that it is ineffective, the virus is mutating means the virus is finding a way or developing themselves to be immune to the created vaccine. There is a lot to be considered and creating a vaccine is not that easy. There are a lot of phases that it needs to undergo, testing it is really hard especially at those times. Hope we don't reach that record Spanish Flu's holding.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: GDragon on August 23, 2020, 11:14:13 AM
Hmm, rushing towards this would be a risky thing. If they are to bring the vaccine where I live I don’t think I am ready for it, until they are able to prove that the vaccine can be reliable in the treatment of the virus and also prove that there is not going to be any bad aftereffects.

If not that, then I am not ready for it, I would prefer to stay clear from it. I once opened Facebook, and that was earlier this month, and they were doing a survey about the Coronavirus awareness, and one of the questions there was whether people are ready to vaccinated, I gave my answer as no, I wish I was able to see other people’s answers.

Same sentiments, I may wish for a fast vaccine but I wanted it to be done through all the right process, all the vaccines in trial are just in Phase 3. Some authorities in my country even suggest not going through phase 4 just to get it to the people as fast as possible. They are open to take the risk cause they can't solve the pandemic without the vaccine. Some countries do it, we are one of the country who have an incompetent government officials, their hope is the vaccine only.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 23, 2020, 01:19:15 PM
I don't believe in a vaccine at all. Virus is mutating all the time. During the Spanish Flu they introduced many vaccines that turned out ineffective.

Spanish flu occurred more than a century back. The medical science was not that advanced back then. That said, inventing a vaccine or a medication against a virus is not as easy as doing that against bacteria or other pathogens. One of the major issues is that there can be several strains for the same virus. So a particular vaccine may not be effective for 100% of the population. But an anti-viral vaccine can be successful in slowing down the spread, even if it is not 100% effective.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: dondonk on August 23, 2020, 05:26:03 PM
During this pandemic I took care of myself as best I could by keeping my immune system good. If I am offered the vaccine for free in the near future, I will refuse it. something rushed will present problems that will arise in the future. It would be better if you wait for the right time at least 5 years.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Leviathan.007 on August 24, 2020, 11:02:29 AM
The crisis effected economy hardly in all over the world. Now and in this time, any country who create and produce the vaccine will become one of the most powerful countries economically. Also, since during the crisis gold price touched a new ATH I guess after a  vaccine came out we can see gold price doing a retracement. Just like a few days ago Russia officially announced about producing vaccine and gold price fallen, also the RUB rised up. However, in the other hand in bitcoin market, producing the vaccine can make the bitcoin rise instead of falling down.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: SANihal02 on August 25, 2020, 04:51:32 AM
Effective and safe vaccines against coronavirus are being discussed around the world. People’s expectations on the magical solution of the vaccine are now more than necessary. But the battle to defeat the virus has a long way to go.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: leyton11 on August 25, 2020, 04:56:19 AM
It is known worldwide that russia had been into the last phase of the trials of Covid19 Vaccine. It already coordinated with other countries to participate in the last phase of trial and that is the mass vaccination of the said Vaccine for covid19. Some countries like Philippines is wiling to cooperate and even buy the Vaccine.

As I have read some articles about creating a Vaccine would take the usual time frame needed before it will be created and declare as safe could take up to several years like 5-25 years. In this case the Vaccine was being made rush and it could harm people especially in the plan for mass vaccnation.


Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

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Although they know that vaccines take a long time to be safe, with the current situation they need it urgently. they must choose 1 of 2 paths. If they do vaccines in a safe way, then surely the economy will be in crisis and the people will be even more rebellious like the previous times. If they do it in a way that accelerates progress and only experiments for a short time, they could save the world economy and the lives of so many people. So I asked you, if you were you, which option would you choose?


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Janation on August 25, 2020, 08:29:40 AM
During this pandemic I took care of myself as best I could by keeping my immune system good. If I am offered the vaccine for free in the near future, I will refuse it. something rushed will present problems that will arise in the future. It would be better if you wait for the right time at least 5 years.

That would be unbearable.

To people, to the country and to the economy. 5 years is so long that nobody knows what will happen at that time, the virus could evolve, economies could crumble and the country's debt might also blow up. That is the reason they are doing what they cand to finish the testing of the vaccine. Right now we are Phase 3 on the Chinese vaccine, as far as I know, it is the same with the Russian vaccine.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Furious 7 on August 25, 2020, 08:57:29 AM
During this pandemic I took care of myself as best I could by keeping my immune system good. If I am offered the vaccine for free in the near future, I will refuse it. something rushed will present problems that will arise in the future. It would be better if you wait for the right time at least 5 years.

That would be unbearable.

To people, to the country and to the economy. 5 years is so long that nobody knows what will happen at that time, the virus could evolve, economies could crumble and the country's debt might also blow up. That is the reason they are doing what they cand to finish the testing of the vaccine. Right now we are Phase 3 on the Chinese vaccine, as far as I know, it is the same with the Russian vaccine.

In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.

If it is an economic problem, of course the government will do its best and maintain their economic stability and now I see it well, I am not like at the beginning of the pandemic.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: FlightyPouch on August 25, 2020, 12:19:29 PM
In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.
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As far as I know, that might be a part of the testing since most of the vaccines in the test are in phase 3. Some of my countrymen are also included in those tests and it makes me worry since that is a huge risk being taken by these people. The effects are still being observed and once we finish all of that testings, the productions time is the next problem.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Furious 7 on August 26, 2020, 06:10:18 AM
In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.
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As far as I know, that might be a part of the testing since most of the vaccines in the test are in phase 3. Some of my countrymen are also included in those tests and it makes me worry since that is a huge risk being taken by these people. The effects are still being observed and once we finish all of that testings, the productions time is the next problem.
Indeed, at this time it is still in the testing stage, but for me it still has to be watched out if it is true that the test has not been completely successful, I am afraid that it will worry many people with this trial and this is still a polemic as well as whether the vaccine has actually been found. the world news also has no such statement yet so it is better not to have the need for people who do not believe in vaccines.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: yohananaomi on August 26, 2020, 10:03:02 AM
In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.
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As far as I know, that might be a part of the testing since most of the vaccines in the test are in phase 3. Some of my countrymen are also included in those tests and it makes me worry since that is a huge risk being taken by these people. The effects are still being observed and once we finish all of that testings, the productions time is the next problem.
Indeed, at this time it is still in the testing stage, but for me it still has to be watched out if it is true that the test has not been completely successful, I am afraid that it will worry many people with this trial and this is still a polemic as well as whether the vaccine has actually been found. the world news also has no such statement yet so it is better not to have the need for people who do not believe in vaccines.

everyone also knows that it is no longer news that can be covered, about vaccines have been discovered by the Chinese state, and have been distributed to several countries for clinical trials that are adjusted to the culture of each given country. and I also know that the vaccine is already in the third phase, which is just one step away because the third phase is testing it already on humans. and this test is also strictly controlled.

If it has been successful, there are still several more stages, namely the permit that must be issued and after the mass production permit and all of these periods it will take time but at least there are improvements.
because we are chased by time and we have to act fast and not verbose because it could cause another pandemic that could occur if there is no certainty with vaccines, let them work and we pray that a vaccine can be found soon.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: kotajikikox on August 26, 2020, 11:42:37 AM
In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.
...

As far as I know, that might be a part of the testing since most of the vaccines in the test are in phase 3. Some of my countrymen are also included in those tests and it makes me worry since that is a huge risk being taken by these people. The effects are still being observed and once we finish all of that testings, the productions time is the next problem.
Indeed, at this time it is still in the testing stage, but for me it still has to be watched out if it is true that the test has not been completely successful, I am afraid that it will worry many people with this trial and this is still a polemic as well as whether the vaccine has actually been found. the world news also has no such statement yet so it is better not to have the need for people who do not believe in vaccines.
World has no choice but to try everything to find the cure to this Virus,either this test will succeed or not who knows and who cares?
What do you want we just expect the perfect cure instantly?there is no such thing because the medicine must be tried out for People and not for animals so this test must happen,if it is not the right cure then scientist will still seek for the right one and this is must happen.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on August 26, 2020, 12:24:15 PM
World has no choice but to try everything to find the cure to this Virus,either this test will succeed or not who knows and who cares?
What do you want we just expect the perfect cure instantly?there is no such thing because the medicine must be tried out for People and not for animals so this test must happen,if it is not the right cure then scientist will still seek for the right one and this is must happen.

Some of the experts actually asked the vaccine manufacturers to speed up the Phase 3 clinical trials, by deliberately infecting the vaccinated individuals with the Coronavirus. But the medical community rejected this suggestion, because they argued that it was unethical and immoral. I still believe that if this was done, then we may be having a working vaccine against COVID 19 now.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bits4books on August 27, 2020, 05:28:17 AM
Yeah, I’m afraid of taking any vaccine if there is no proof that there wouldn’t be any side effects and that it actually works. Then another question I do ask myself is that if everyone continues to be afraid of the vaccine how are we going to know that it actually works and that there are no side effects? Lol okay I am asking this because I don’t really know the process that goes into creating vaccines, but I’ve heard that they test it on animals (not really sure of that), but is that enough to validate the vaccines? ??? Damn, this is going to be a big issue, but seriously I am not ready for any vaccine if there is no proof.
I prefer not to have vaccines too as there is also a previous misuse of vaccines in my country regarding dengue. Many fears having vaccines now. If covid vaccine will be proven effective and already tested in different countries that maybe the only time my country will procure a lot as we almost lose our budget now and I don't think mass vaccine is in the budget yet. We're still on the process of recovering or starting to recover in economy as we were still in lockdown.

I think that everything will be completely normal by 2022, or even later. Now all vaccines are still at the stage of testing and development - so in 2020 if someone releases it, then a lot of distrust will be caused to such an invention (Hello Russia). And given the new trend to refuse vaccinations (I know a lot of people who live like this) then in 2021, nothing breakthrough will happen for sure.
I wonder if there will be any sanctions against anti-vaccinators


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: kolbalish on September 01, 2020, 09:57:05 AM
In this pandemic situation, people are worried about their life, economy, and future. Among them, life is the most important thing that should have been secure. If life is secure then we can concern about our earnings. But if we are not fit then no means to create a fund for the future. COVID-19 vaccine is highly needed for our life world wide but it is a complex process. Maybe it will take some more time. if you get it then the economy can grow rapidly.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Ronaldcoin2017 on September 03, 2020, 12:53:34 PM
We are all worried about the situation during pandemic because everthing is now limited and we cannot really easily go to work everyone is afraid, but i believe that the pandemic will soon end because the vaccine is almost there and i think economy will rise again. All we need to do is to wait for the vaccine and live a normal life without fear.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 04, 2020, 06:45:26 AM
We are all worried about the situation during pandemic because everthing is now limited and we cannot really easily go to work everyone is afraid, but i believe that the pandemic will soon end because the vaccine is almost there and i think economy will rise again. All we need to do is to wait for the vaccine and live a normal life without fear.

Nope. Vaccine is not "almost there". Not even the third phase trials have been completed for vaccines from AstraZeneca and Moderna. It may take at least 6-7 months for these vaccines to appear at the market and even more time to make them available for any mass-immunization programs. Then you have the Sputnik V vaccine from Russia which is already available from the market. But the WHO hasn't given approval for this vaccine.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Sapphire915 on September 04, 2020, 07:08:54 AM
Several countries were in the final phase of Vaccine trials for covid-19. Whichever of them may release the cure first, i still have some doubts and won't try to participate the trial. Some people are willing to, though a lot are still cautious because of what happened with Dengvaxia vaccine in the past. But, if this vaccine which is being made in a hurry will have positive and excellent feedback then its great. The economy then will grow eventually.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: jademaxsuy on September 04, 2020, 08:03:16 AM
Several countries were in the final phase of Vaccine trials for covid-19. Whichever of them may release the cure first, i still have some doubts and won't try to participate the trial. Some people are willing to, though a lot are still cautious because of what happened with Dengvaxia vaccine in the past. But, if this vaccine which is being made in a hurry will have positive and excellent feedback then its great. The economy then will grow eventually.
yeah china too were a bit hasty to announce that their vaccine is in the last trial and that is by testing it to the huma body. Whoever volunteers to be injected by this trial and get side effect then we still have to wait for another vaccine to effectively fight the transmission or stop the pandemic.

However, there should be responsble in this pandemic. Someone should pay the damages brought and to blame with the result of huge number of casualties and sickness because of covid19 all over the world.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: GDragon on September 04, 2020, 02:09:25 PM
We are all worried about the situation during pandemic because everthing is now limited and we cannot really easily go to work everyone is afraid, but i believe that the pandemic will soon end because the vaccine is almost there and i think economy will rise again. All we need to do is to wait for the vaccine and live a normal life without fear.

Nope. Vaccine is not "almost there". Not even the third phase trials have been completed for vaccines from AstraZeneca and Moderna. It may take at least 6-7 months for these vaccines to appear at the market and even more time to make them available for any mass-immunization programs. Then you have the Sputnik V vaccine from Russia which is already available from the market. But the WHO hasn't given approval for this vaccine.

That sputnik V vaccine is only available for phase 3 testing tho! It wasn't even a confirmed and safe vaccine as of now. There are news that once it pass the phase 3, they want to mass produce it asap, but nope! It still requires phase 4, we cannot rely on vaccines that are created without the proper testing.

There are more than 10 vaccines that are trying to be tested for phase 3 in our country, I just hope no side effects would emerge from the people who are trying these vaccines, I am hoping for a vaccine too, but a vaccine that has gone through the right process of course!


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 05, 2020, 05:30:29 AM
That sputnik V vaccine is only available for phase 3 testing tho! It wasn't even a confirmed and safe vaccine as of now. There are news that once it pass the phase 3, they want to mass produce it asap, but nope! It still requires phase 4, we cannot rely on vaccines that are created without the proper testing.

There are more than 10 vaccines that are trying to be tested for phase 3 in our country, I just hope no side effects would emerge from the people who are trying these vaccines, I am hoping for a vaccine too, but a vaccine that has gone through the right process of course!

There is good news for Sputnik V. Yesterday a report from The Lancet (one of the most reputed medical journals in the world) confirmed that Sputnik V was 100% successful in producing antibodies against the Coronavirus for those who participated in the Phase 3 testing. But these trials involved only 38 individuals and more people may need to be tested before the WHO would certify the vaccine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54036221


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Salauddin1994 on September 05, 2020, 10:30:41 AM
The discovery of the coronavirus vaccine will boost the human body's immune system which will fight the virus and prevent it from getting sick. But there are many differences between vaccines and improving the economy it is a matter of time before the economy is damaged by the epidemic. Although efforts at economic transition have already begun in the country there is a lot of controversy over whether the vaccine will be successful, given that the threat of virus infection will not improve the business environment.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: proscratcher on September 06, 2020, 02:56:47 AM
More than 150 coronavirus vaccines are in development across the world—and hopes are high to bring one to market in record time to ease the global crisis. Several efforts are underway to help make that possible, including the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed initiative, which has pledged $10 billion and aims to develop and deliver 300 million doses of a safe, effective coronavirus vaccine by January 2021. The World Health Organization is also coordinating global efforts to develop a vaccine, with an eye toward delivering two billion doses by the end of 2021.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: GDragon on September 06, 2020, 11:54:01 AM
That sputnik V vaccine is only available for phase 3 testing tho! It wasn't even a confirmed and safe vaccine as of now. There are news that once it pass the phase 3, they want to mass produce it asap, but nope! It still requires phase 4, we cannot rely on vaccines that are created without the proper testing.

There are more than 10 vaccines that are trying to be tested for phase 3 in our country, I just hope no side effects would emerge from the people who are trying these vaccines, I am hoping for a vaccine too, but a vaccine that has gone through the right process of course!

There is good news for Sputnik V. Yesterday a report from The Lancet (one of the most reputed medical journals in the world) confirmed that Sputnik V was 100% successful in producing antibodies against the Coronavirus for those who participated in the Phase 3 testing. But these trials involved only 38 individuals and more people may need to be tested before the WHO would certify the vaccine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54036221

I just read the article and yup there are only 38 participants, we have to wait for the results of the 40,000 participants. The first trial are age 18-60 for 42 days, and those are healthy. We should know the complications it has for older people and who are sick and other medical conditions. I hope this vaccine will prove itself with that. I'm hoping this is it, but really, Sputnik V has a long way to go.

Also read that the most common side effects of this vaccine trial are joint pains and headaches. Is there any side effects for other people who has underlying medical conditions? We need an answer for that.

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Experts say the trials were too small to prove effectiveness and safety.



Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on September 06, 2020, 01:23:22 PM
@ GDragon, I understand that your concerns. There may be additional side effects for this vaccine, in population groups which are outside the 18-45 age group and also those who have underlying medical conditions (diabetes, hypertension or even obesity). But why can't we vaccinate the others? I am talking about those in 18-45 age group, who doesn't have any comorbidities. That will slow down the spread of the pandemic, right?


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: jossiel on September 07, 2020, 05:25:57 AM
More than 150 coronavirus vaccines are in development across the world—and hopes are high to bring one to market in record time to ease the global crisis. Several efforts are underway to help make that possible, including the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed initiative, which has pledged $10 billion and aims to develop and deliver 300 million doses of a safe, effective coronavirus vaccine by January 2021. The World Health Organization is also coordinating global efforts to develop a vaccine, with an eye toward delivering two billion doses by the end of 2021.
The news about vaccines in the US like with the Pharmaceutical Company, Pfizer. As the news says, they'll likely give the result of the clinical trial by the end of October.

It's not that long wait that we need to. Some of the news is misleading as they are already expecting that it's the actual vaccine but, most of the news says that it's the late-stage result for the trial of the vaccine that they are developing.

Once this vaccine is approved and proven, economic growth will start to be back again.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: aiguy on September 07, 2020, 05:44:05 AM
I think we should inject this vaccine because we have no option, by the way, people are dying, so take a chance. Maybe it will be good.

And about the economy, no one can say anything because there are 50/50 possibilities.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: kotajikikox on September 07, 2020, 06:08:16 AM
I think we should inject this vaccine because we have no option, by the way, people are dying, so take a chance. Maybe it will be good.

And about the economy, no one can say anything because there are 50/50 possibilities.
The vaccine created intended to Cure this Corona Virus so why bother
 about the using?

and besides everything that might will be considered,even whatever it takes because we are now in despair on how to prevent this
killing more and more when we can find solution.

There are animals that can be used as testing material but of course there will also humans that willing to be tested first and they are
heroes for letting them try first before the whole world will be cured.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: ArIMy11 on September 07, 2020, 02:45:52 PM
As I have read some articles about creating a Vaccine would take the usual time frame needed before it will be created and declare as safe could take up to several years like 5-25 years. In this case the Vaccine was being made rush and it could harm people especially in the plan for mass vaccnation. I can't imagine the devastating effect of the vaccine if found out later the bad side effects on human body. Like the Dengvaxia issue wherein most people get injected without dengue history will complicate dengue illness. The dengue will become severe when one injected with dengcaxia for those who had not been into dengue sickness before. The sad thing is that the vaccine effect will take up to 5 years. So, five years of being stress not to get dengue and a life threating vaccine being injected to the body is something awful.

Now, Covid19 vaccine could also be the same as with dengvaxia. I am not questioning the scientist or the russia tech and people doing their research on creating the vaccine. yes they are good but this is not about how they do the reasearch but the effect itself that is not still known and again vaccine making will take years before it can be declared as safe vaccine for the people.

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?

If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?

Edited -

As of now, I am hearing different vaccines from different countries are about to test in humans but I am afraid and of course hoping that it will not be like dengvaxia that has bad side effect.
If there will be a trial phase in our area, I will say no for now. I am not sure if it is safe. The word "trial" itself already explains everything. For now, to be able to avoid covid I will just eat healthy foods, follow the Governemnt to wear mask especially surgical mask, use fave shield, avoid crowded places , and always wash the habds properly bacuase prevention is better cure.

Now if the vaccine becomes effective, it will help the economy of the country whose vaccine is really effective. The vaccine will also bring back the way of living of the world. Factories, business will continue to operate again.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: aiguy on September 07, 2020, 03:03:40 PM
If this vaccine was found effective and it is proven for more than a year, then there is a possibility that we can somehow recover slowly and go back to normal.

Although this pandemic can really bring a permanent damage to us humans because of those loved ones that we've lost. It can somehow help the economy recover because businesses will possibly reopen and transportation will soon be allowed to operate and then workers can now go to their job everyday.

But that's not easy to predict because probably fear will still be there as it makes people think anxiously.
yes we should to use this vaccine, and should take a risk. if we don't take a risk then there is a big danger(COVID-19) at front of you.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Renampun on September 08, 2020, 08:07:01 PM
In fact, before mass production of vaccines, researchers have also tested a lot and then come up with results. So with only vaccines, the economy will be saved. Russia is also now receiving support from the US in its research institute to speed up the production of vaccines. In short, if vaccines come to us soon, the faster the economy will be saved. especially the crypto market will be to the moon by the Bitcoin halving.
I heard that the vaccine from Russia has not gone through phase 3 testing...
claiming that a vaccine has been found too soon will only increase the number of corona positives and that is not good, it's better to wait until it passes the final stage before it will be announced to the public. the world is praying because only a vaccine can make our lives return to normal like before this epidemic struck.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: BrewMaster on September 09, 2020, 02:28:28 PM
I heard that the vaccine from Russia has not gone through phase 3 testing...
claiming that a vaccine has been found too soon will only increase the number of corona positives and that is not good, it's better to wait until it passes the final stage before it will be announced to the public. the world is praying because only a vaccine can make our lives return to normal like before this epidemic struck.

in some ways the announcement itself could give hope to people and businesses to keep going and with that view it was not such a bad announcement in my opinion.
besides people don't just get reckless just because of the announcement either so i don't think the cases are going to grow just because of this.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: pokeronlinestatus on September 14, 2020, 03:25:43 PM
I don’t know about this for sure and I don’t whether I will be accepting to be vaccinated, but I do know that whenever a vaccine is released, before it’s being released it will go through a lot of process and testing to prove if it’s really going to work, and after that they will release the vaccine. So, if they are going to release any vaccine I believe that the world Health organization will look into it and say whether it’s approved or not. So, till then maybe it’s best to wait and see what’s going to happen.

But, I do hope that anything that happens next will be for the good and not for the bad.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on September 14, 2020, 05:57:10 PM
I heard that the vaccine from Russia has not gone through phase 3 testing...
claiming that a vaccine has been found too soon will only increase the number of corona positives and that is not good, it's better to wait until it passes the final stage before it will be announced to the public. the world is praying because only a vaccine can make our lives return to normal like before this epidemic struck.

People are running out of patience. No one want to wait for another 6 months. As far as I know, none of the potential candidates have completed the phase III trials. And the vaccine won't be available in the market immediately after the completion of trials. There are still certain regulation hurdles, which may take many months. Under these circumstances, I won't blame anyone if they prefer to take the vaccine even without the Phase III trials.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: CODE200 on September 14, 2020, 09:22:00 PM

Now, if the trial of this vaccine will come to your place and ask you to get injected by the vaccine for free would you do it? or not?



If the vaccine have already been proven safe after all the clinical and first human trials and no bad side effects found to state that it is really the cure for the covid-19 and would be given it for free, then why not? I am willing to be one of those lucky people for there are many people wanting to get vaccinated and it is said that such newly discovered vaccine would be expensive, then I guess it would be a privilege to acquire the vaccine for free if it was already proven safe.


If it could be proven effective what do you think about the economy of all country which will going to lead now in the economic growth?


Surely not just my country would lead to a recovery and economic growth once the vaccine have been proven safe. It would be a blessing that the vaccine to end up the pandemic have already been found if ever because such health protocols being implemented are just to control the inflation rate but still that won't serve as permanent solution. If ever the vaccine was safe, surely all countries around the world would undergo recovery and economic growth after couple of months suffering from the effects of this covid-19 pandemic.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bocyaj on September 14, 2020, 11:57:02 PM
Corona had gave both positive and negative impact to the economy. Both to the country and world economy. It increased the unemployment in many country by the corporates, to reduced the workforces. It surely had fall the flow of money in market.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: erikoy on September 15, 2020, 12:08:26 AM
I think we should inject this vaccine because we have no option, by the way, people are dying, so take a chance. Maybe it will be good.

And about the economy, no one can say anything because there are 50/50 possibilities.
Not really the covid19 is fatal in fact 95% of people getting covid recovered only few actually are having mild- severe symptoms. And the vaccine could also be dangerous to the effect of the human body. Why not make it utilize to the severe cases to which i think even if it is one percent to the total.number of cases to the covid19  patient I think it will still do.

Now, the best thing to do is to actually being more careful. Getting covid vaccine would be good if the vaccine has proven to be no side effect.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 15, 2020, 05:41:11 AM
indeed for now Covid is paralyzing many sectors, especially global finance. and vaccines are the only way that can be taken to solve the problem of this deadly virus, but before the vaccine actually circulates it would be better if each person keeps his own hygiene and health so as not to catch this terrible virus.

Coronavirus spreads through air. Preventive measures, such as masks and social distancing can only reduce the risk. Even if you take all the necessary precautions, you can still get infected. So the only way forward is mass-vaccination. And there have been hardly any progress on this front, for the last couple of months. Oxford University/AstraZeneca recently suspended their Phase 3 trials. I would be surprised if an effective vaccine is made available during the next 12 months.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Dorodha on September 15, 2020, 07:24:31 AM
Even if the vaccine is made it will take a long time to get it in the market. Although Russia has taken steps to develop the vaccine it has not yet been able to do so. If it is tested with another person's body then it is berth no one has given up yet everyone is trying to make a vaccine. The country's economy will not be fully controlled until vaccines are available even though the health rules are followed a little less later the infection is appearing again.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Furious 7 on September 15, 2020, 07:57:49 AM
I think we should inject this vaccine because we have no option, by the way, people are dying, so take a chance. Maybe it will be good.

And about the economy, no one can say anything because there are 50/50 possibilities.
Not really the covid19 is fatal in fact 95% of people getting covid recovered only few actually are having mild- severe symptoms. And the vaccine could also be dangerous to the effect of the human body. Why not make it utilize to the severe cases to which i think even if it is one percent to the total.number of cases to the covid19  patient I think it will still do.

Now, the best thing to do is to actually being more careful. Getting covid vaccine would be good if the vaccine has proven to be no side effect.
I conclude that vaccines always have side effects on the human body, try to explain which vaccines have been successful in trials with everyone, there must be a concern that it will be worse than now, Covid-19 cases are now increasing and I think the symptoms are not so severe and only mild symptoms that we have so even though we are handled with drugs that are available to maintain the body then I think it can be cured 80% I am sure of that.

I am always tired of seeing a lot of news about vaccines being sent from various countries, but still a country will not buy it in large quantities even though there are many cases in their country but there are concerns that occur.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: kotajikikox on September 15, 2020, 08:03:11 AM
Corona had gave both positive and negative impact to the economy. Both to the country and world economy. It increased the unemployment in many country by the corporates, to reduced the workforces. It surely had fall the flow of money in market.
So what is the Positive about this?you Only mentioned the negative but none are positive?

for me what is the Good thing that happens from this virus?this is the World at least healed for a Mean time.
When the Lockdown happens?in the first days i can smell the fresh air and the air goes very light since i am living in the center of the city since birth so this is the first time that i notice the air surrounds me that clean.
and also the Bonding of families becomes more tighter and close.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: reliable on September 15, 2020, 08:28:35 AM
Even if the vaccine is made it will take a long time to get it in the market. Although Russia has taken steps to develop the vaccine it has not yet been able to do so. If it is tested with another person's body then it is berth no one has given up yet everyone is trying to make a vaccine. The country's economy will not be fully controlled until vaccines are available even though the health rules are followed a little less later the infection is appearing again.

I am not expecting the vaccine now in this year as its being long where claims were coming it would be finalised shortly but nothing yet. So now in next year once the vaccine is available and creating for the whole world would be a huge task so may be in 2nd half people might start to get it.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on September 15, 2020, 10:00:10 AM
indeed for now Covid is paralyzing many sectors, especially global finance. and vaccines are the only way that can be taken to solve the problem of this deadly virus, but before the vaccine actually circulates it would be better if each person keeps his own hygiene and health so as not to catch this terrible virus.

Hmm.. don't get too much excited about the vaccine. From what I have heard, vaccines against viruses are seldom 100% effective. Because there are so many strains of the virus and they get mutated quite quickly. That means that even if everyone is vaccinated, people would still get infected from the virus. But in the medium-to-long term, the number of new infections may decline with time and eventually we may reach a point where there are no new cases.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: desticy on September 15, 2020, 12:16:27 PM
If they come to me with an offer to make a vaccine for free, I'll fuck them. I would rather have natural immunity from this disease than inject myself with any vaccine. Neither Russian nor American nor any else.
I will be satisfied with being in quarantine for 14 days for any signs of a cold. Vaccines are too dubious for me, I believe in biological immunity.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 16, 2020, 05:08:48 AM
If they come to me with an offer to make a vaccine for free, I'll fuck them. I would rather have natural immunity from this disease than inject myself with any vaccine. Neither Russian nor American nor any else. I will be satisfied with being in quarantine for 14 days for any signs of a cold. Vaccines are too dubious for me, I believe in biological immunity.

I don't think that anyone is going to forcefully inject you the vaccine. It is purely voluntary. And as per some of the opinion polls, almost 50% of the population in various countries are saying that they will refuse to take the vaccine. So in any case, you will get plenty of company. And there is no need to go ballistic over this virus. The mortality rate is extremely low, if you are below 30 years of age and doesn't have any comorbidities such as obesity, hypertension and diabetes.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Wawa2013 on September 16, 2020, 08:03:25 AM
I think that no one knows the side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine which is in this trial period, which definitely won't be good for the body.
I was too scared become volunteer for the COVID-19 vaccine, so let alone it was free, if I was offered some money. I will refuse to volunteer
for the vaccine trial. For me the risk is big enough, I really appreciate those who have the courage as a volunteer to try the trial of this vaccine.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Janation on September 16, 2020, 08:42:50 AM
I heard that the vaccine from Russia has not gone through phase 3 testing...
claiming that a vaccine has been found too soon will only increase the number of corona positives and that is not good, it's better to wait until it passes the final stage before it will be announced to the public. the world is praying because only a vaccine can make our lives return to normal like before this epidemic struck.

People are running out of patience. No one want to wait for another 6 months. As far as I know, none of the potential candidates have completed the phase III trials. And the vaccine won't be available in the market immediately after the completion of trials. There are still certain regulation hurdles, which may take many months. Under these circumstances, I won't blame anyone if they prefer to take the vaccine even without the Phase III trials.

It is true though, except for Russia's Sputnik.

I am not saying that it is already a successful vaccine, I am saying that despite the lack of information since Russe is not leaking any of it said that it is fine and they already list it up as the first vaccine on the market. This is the reason why doctors are not suggesting this vaccine since it is still a risk, with a lot of vaccine being developed, most of them are still in phase III and it is true that people can't wait that long. They are starving, they need to get back to their jobs.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: CoinChili on September 16, 2020, 09:06:16 AM
Even if there is a vaccines for Covid, I will not be able to inject it immediately, i will look first at what side effect it will have in the human body.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Maroons on September 16, 2020, 09:32:43 AM
I heard that the vaccine from Russia has not gone through phase 3 testing...
claiming that a vaccine has been found too soon will only increase the number of corona positives and that is not good, it's better to wait until it passes the final stage before it will be announced to the public. the world is praying because only a vaccine can make our lives return to normal like before this epidemic struck.

People are running out of patience. No one want to wait for another 6 months. As far as I know, none of the potential candidates have completed the phase III trials. And the vaccine won't be available in the market immediately after the completion of trials. There are still certain regulation hurdles, which may take many months. Under these circumstances, I won't blame anyone if they prefer to take the vaccine even without the Phase III trials.

It is true though, except for Russia's Sputnik.

I am not saying that it is already a successful vaccine, I am saying that despite the lack of information since Russe is not leaking any of it said that it is fine and they already list it up as the first vaccine on the market. This is the reason why doctors are not suggesting this vaccine since it is still a risk, with a lot of vaccine being developed, most of them are still in phase III and it is true that people can't wait that long. They are starving, they need to get back to their jobs.
The world now is desperate to have our lives back to normal, they can't wait long for the vaccine and the only solution that they can see is vaccine but apparently there is such a nice and much easier solution which is to stay home most of the time and always wash hands because if we will just wait for a unsafe vaccine it can just make the pandemic worst if it turns out bad. Some countries have defeated the virus without the presence of a vaccine and if they can do it the world can and by that we don't need to desperately want a vaccine for the virus.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: FlightyPouch on September 16, 2020, 11:07:31 AM
Even if there is a vaccines for Covid, I will not be able to inject it immediately, i will look first at what side effect it will have in the human body.

You should even do some searches about it or maybe ask someone about it since until now we are still not being given or being announced about a vaccine that went through phase III of its testings. We don't know how long will we wait for the vaccine, all we know that there are a lot of them being developed and in the tests now.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on September 16, 2020, 12:41:14 PM
It is true though, except for Russia's Sputnik.

I am not saying that it is already a successful vaccine, I am saying that despite the lack of information since Russe is not leaking any of it said that it is fine and they already list it up as the first vaccine on the market. This is the reason why doctors are not suggesting this vaccine since it is still a risk, with a lot of vaccine being developed, most of them are still in phase III and it is true that people can't wait that long. They are starving, they need to get back to their jobs.

Sputnik is not the only vaccine available at the market right now. The Chinese army is vaccinating their soldiers with the Sinovac vaccine. And the WHO hasn't approved any of these vaccines. Some of the analysts are saying that the WHO is biased against non-Western pharmaceutical firms. I don't completely agree with them, but at this point we have only two options and they are from China and Russia. 


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Janation on September 18, 2020, 07:02:02 AM
It is true though, except for Russia's Sputnik.

I am not saying that it is already a successful vaccine, I am saying that despite the lack of information since Russe is not leaking any of it said that it is fine and they already list it up as the first vaccine on the market. This is the reason why doctors are not suggesting this vaccine since it is still a risk, with a lot of vaccine being developed, most of them are still in phase III and it is true that people can't wait that long. They are starving, they need to get back to their jobs.

Sputnik is not the only vaccine available at the market right now. The Chinese army is vaccinating their soldiers with the Sinovac vaccine. And the WHO hasn't approved any of these vaccines. Some of the analysts are saying that the WHO is biased against non-Western pharmaceutical firms. I don't completely agree with them, but at this point we have only two options and they are from China and Russia. 

Yeah, that's the other one.

Time is really running out right now and that is why waiting for a more reliable vaccine is not another option but doctors and other people are not agreeing with this that why they are enot suggesting these two which I think makes them pick the option of waiting since it is for the best of their patients and for the best of the country as well.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Chrystora123 on September 18, 2020, 05:53:20 PM
Even if there is a vaccines for Covid, I will not be able to inject it immediately, i will look first at what side effect it will have in the human body.
we must not carelessly believe the vaccines that are claimed to be available because we do not know what side effects will occur in our bodies..  I heard an issue saying that the majority of corona positive patients died of kidney damage caused by the hard drugs they ate while being treated in the hospital.  I don't know whether this news is true or not but to be honest this makes me afraid of the emergence of a vaccine which is claimed to make the body immune to COVID 19..


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: ArIMy11 on September 19, 2020, 10:05:08 AM
Corona had gave both positive and negative impact to the economy. Both to the country and world economy. It increased the unemployment in many country by the corporates, to reduced the workforces. It surely had fall the flow of money in market.
Yes unemployment rate increases which teaches most of the people especially in every provinces to live in a simple way. Planting or plants becomes viral. Barter community also arises. Another, the pandemic also teaches the people to become resourceful. Since everybody is online, people uses social media to sell different products. But these kind of earning does not directly give benefit to our economy that is why our Government demands that online sellers must have tax.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: AjithBtc on September 19, 2020, 04:22:16 PM
Covid vaccine has been under development. More and more phases of testing is going around the world. The pandemic caused by the virus, and the lockdown around the globe has made a big economic decline. As of now the vaccines into testing isn't that affordable to all levels of people. Our government have revealed statements of providing affordable vaccine at a price around $25. Have been waiting for more than few months, because our government announced the vaccine to be on use by 15th August.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Harriti on September 19, 2020, 05:39:20 PM
Russia is just bulshitting, they don't have a vaccine, and they certainly didn't test anything on Putin's daughter. It's just a PR move to make Russia seem to be cool, both domestically and internationally. The first real vaccine will be developed in the West, some half a year or a year from now. It might be bullish news when it will happen, and stocks would likely react positively, but the same can't be said about Bitcoin.
How can you know the Russian government lies? Do you have evidence to convince us?
I read and read the vaccine news and it all had pictures and proof. Besides, the US also pre-ordered hundreds of millions of dollars and I think this is no joke.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Blackrain13 on September 19, 2020, 06:01:01 PM
Even if there is a vaccines for Covid, I will not be able to inject it immediately, i will look first at what side effect it will have in the human body.

I agree with you. It's difficult to trust immediately for that vaccines that we really don't know the side effects of that. I'm afraid of that vaccine. Maybe I will wait first the result of other people that will accept that vaccine and see what is the effect to their body.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: posi on September 19, 2020, 06:44:29 PM
Covid vaccine has been under development. More and more phases of testing is going around the world. The pandemic caused by the virus, and the lockdown around the globe has made a big economic decline. As of now the vaccines into testing isn't that affordable to all levels of people. Our government have revealed statements of providing affordable vaccine at a price around $25. Have been waiting for more than few months, because our government announced the vaccine to be on use by 15th August.
Waiting on the government which was to be in a clinical trial for more than 3weeks would be an unreasonable conclusion when already know that Vitamin D and boost our immune system through exercise and eating balance diet is enough to combat the COVID 19.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: inoes on September 19, 2020, 11:25:21 PM
Is a country that is fast in producing vaccines the one who will win the war against Covid? not necessarily. because this virus is growing ... I am afraid that when the time comes for Coronavirus to evolve into a virus that cannot be fought using vaccines. like the HIV virus, because they are the same, namely weaken the immune system.
maybe thanks to the presence of vaccines the economy will grow? yes this can happen if the vaccine is safe and can have an effect.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Xxmodded on September 20, 2020, 07:40:37 AM
Almost every country try to make vaccine of covid 19 but until one year or corona virus still not have good way which one country have success launching their vaccine, will be just drama like developer making when their coin dump or wanna launch? How the development more than one year after covid first time show in Wuhan until now still not have vaccine how to make many people keep stronger with covid 19. I think we have fight and give more reason why and how to protect many people keep away from covid 19 and make all country healthy.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on September 20, 2020, 12:37:07 PM
Russia is just bulshitting, they don't have a vaccine, and they certainly didn't test anything on Putin's daughter. It's just a PR move to make Russia seem to be cool, both domestically and internationally. The first real vaccine will be developed in the West, some half a year or a year from now. It might be bullish news when it will happen, and stocks would likely react positively, but the same can't be said about Bitcoin.

That's not true. Because the results have been published in one of the leading medical journals (The Lancet). They will not publish anything without verifying it many times. Putin's daughter may or may not be vaccinated against COVID 19. But it is true that Russia do have a vaccine and they have some promising results from the initial phases. But from what I have heard, a lot of volunteers are complaining about side effects.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: $crypto$ on September 20, 2020, 01:46:05 PM
Covid vaccine has been under development. More and more phases of testing is going around the world. The pandemic caused by the virus, and the lockdown around the globe has made a big economic decline. As of now the vaccines into testing isn't that affordable to all levels of people. Our government have revealed statements of providing affordable vaccine at a price around $25. Have been waiting for more than few months, because our government announced the vaccine to be on use by 15th August.
Waiting on the government which was to be in a clinical trial for more than 3weeks would be an unreasonable conclusion when already know that Vitamin D and boost our immune system through exercise and eating balance diet is enough to combat the COVID 19.
So, it is certain that with vitamin D we can increase immunity with a balance of eating and exercise rather than waiting for a vaccine that is not clear when it will be mass-produced which only they continue to test without any clarity when it will be finished.
Still, we have to be immune and follow the applicable protocols to avoid Covid-19. I am sure that with the immune system people can survive with makeshift drugs instead of having to wait for vaccines that are not clear and even expensive if there is one.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 20, 2020, 02:18:27 PM
So, it is certain that with vitamin D we can increase immunity with a balance of eating and exercise rather than waiting for a vaccine that is not clear when it will be mass-produced which only they continue to test without any clarity when it will be finished.
Still, we have to be immune and follow the applicable protocols to avoid Covid-19. I am sure that with the immune system people can survive with makeshift drugs instead of having to wait for vaccines that are not clear and even expensive if there is one.

In my country, this "immunity booster" business has got a big spike. Everywhere, you will notice adverts and testimonials. The sales of multi-vitamin tablets have increased by manifold. Even fruit juices are now advertising, claiming that they contain certain "immunity boosters". Unlike the vaccines, they don't need any clinical trials to support such advertisements.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: oHnK on September 20, 2020, 03:26:00 PM
I am sure that with the immune system people can survive with makeshift drugs instead of having to wait for vaccines that are not clear and even expensive if there is one.

Unlike the vaccines, they don't need any clinical trials to support such advertisements.

Weirder phenomenon in my country.  People believe more in traditional medicines, fruit, or natural ingredients that contain substances that are said to increase immunity than vaccines developed.  Even my own mother forbade me to get the vaccine if I had the chance.  How strange, right?


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: abhiseshakana on September 20, 2020, 11:25:08 PM
Weirder phenomenon in my country.  People believe more in traditional medicines, fruit, or natural ingredients that contain substances that are said to increase immunity than vaccines developed.  Even my own mother forbade me to get the vaccine if I had the chance.  How strange, right?

One of my seafood buyers in China informed a broadcast obtained from a well-known virologist in China, namely doctor Zhang Wenghong that to avoid exposure to the coronavirus and increase the immunity needed are: consumption of lots of water, drinking milk, eating boiled eggs, rest who are sufficient and do not leave the house.

Pandemic, made the majority of supplement products in my country sold with a marketing strategy, increasing immunity and warding off covid 19, ranging from multi-level marketing products, herbal concoctions to alternative medicine with relaxation therapy to plasma therapy. The majority of people in my country also consume red ginger to increase immunity, and this condition makes the price of red ginger had jumped 100%.  :D


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on September 21, 2020, 04:54:02 AM
Weirder phenomenon in my country.  People believe more in traditional medicines, fruit, or natural ingredients that contain substances that are said to increase immunity than vaccines developed.  Even my own mother forbade me to get the vaccine if I had the chance.  How strange, right?

Actually people should consume more fruits and green vegetables, as their consumption is going down these days. If the pandemic causes an increase in the consumption of these items, then it is good news. The only thing I would recommend is to go for organic products, as a lot of this stuff available in the market contain traces of chemical fertilizers and pesticides. Traditional supplements are also good, but don't consume them without doing proper research.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: desticy on October 09, 2020, 03:59:28 PM
If they come to me with an offer to make a vaccine for free, I'll fuck them. I would rather have natural immunity from this disease than inject myself with any vaccine. Neither Russian nor American nor any else. I will be satisfied with being in quarantine for 14 days for any signs of a cold. Vaccines are too dubious for me, I believe in biological immunity.

I don't think that anyone is going to forcefully inject you the vaccine. It is purely voluntary. And as per some of the opinion polls, almost 50% of the population in various countries are saying that they will refuse to take the vaccine. So in any case, you will get plenty of company. And there is no need to go ballistic over this virus. The mortality rate is extremely low, if you are below 30 years of age and doesn't have any comorbidities such as obesity, hypertension and diabetes.


It is not known what the authorities will do. In some countries it will be voluntary, in others, where the mortality rate is higher, it may be made mandatory.
It is not known what the future will look like, especially in those countries where quarantine measures will be introduced for people who come from abroad. They will all need to have their Covid test results, but probably a vaccine, probably.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Apes on October 10, 2020, 11:11:19 AM
Every country is in a hurry Invent the vaccine, not just to fight the virus, But there is economic value in this finding. Because those who can find first can recover their country's economy earlier, Apart from that they can sell and make a profit.
Creating a vaccine in a hurry without standard regulations can make a new problems if those vaccine are gives bad side effects.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: (o)(o)ilikeboobs(o)(o) on October 10, 2020, 01:20:21 PM
I think that with the current rate of virus spread, the emergence of vaccines cannot change the economic situation. It takes more effort and effort. The release of the vaccine only changed the numbers on the exchanges. We need real manufacturing and operational services because they are what create values ​​and jobs.
It will take more time to vaccinate all of them.
I am thinking about an economic recovery with a major stimulus package that will bring great leverage and pull the world economy back.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: TheGreatPython on October 10, 2020, 01:34:37 PM
Is a country that is fast in producing vaccines the one who will win the war against Covid? not necessarily. because this virus is growing ... I am afraid that when the time comes for Coronavirus to evolve into a virus that cannot be fought using vaccines. like the HIV virus, because they are the same, namely weaken the immune system.
maybe thanks to the presence of vaccines the economy will grow? yes this can happen if the vaccine is safe and can have an effect.
Vaccine will be an immediate stop to the virus because while the virus is deadly and very dangerous but it is static. I mean the virus is not growing itself rather just spreading quickly which is the biggest problem with the virus.

Once a vaccine is developed there will be absolutely no problem at all because there have been really bad viruses in past but only until the vaccine is found and made available for everyone. So rest assured that while it is taking some real time to make the working vaccine but once it is made there is no way corona virus can ever again be as dangerous again.

In fact people are recovering so quickly now that the real corona virus thread is now limited to old age people only.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: imstillthebest on October 10, 2020, 01:35:26 PM
Every country is in a hurry Invent the vaccine, not just to fight the virus, But there is economic value in this finding. Because those who can find first can recover their country's economy earlier, Apart from that they can sell and make a profit.
Creating a vaccine in a hurry without standard regulations can make a new problems if those vaccine are gives bad side effects.

selling vaccine and making a profit leads to recovery of ones economy . creating vaccine too early is not enough or cant make that countrys economy recover but they need to do something , i already said it earlier on my post .

 they hurry but they also hurry not because of the profit and fame but because the virus spread so fast and they need to catch up before many lives and economy are going to damage but creating vaccine in a hurry is also not good  

. the best thing they can do is to work in equal intensity , not fast and not too slow  .


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: finaleshot2016 on October 10, 2020, 06:39:07 PM
Every country is in a hurry Invent the vaccine, not just to fight the virus, But there is economic value in this finding. Because those who can find first can recover their country's economy earlier, Apart from that they can sell and make a profit.
Creating a vaccine in a hurry without standard regulations can make a new problems if those vaccine are gives bad side effects.
This makes sense, the one who will be able to create a COVID-19 vaccine that undergoes in different trials will surely hit the market and increase their economic growth. But I hope they take the making of vaccines seriously and forget about the profit they will get on it because the lives of the people are on the line if they made mistakes on creating a vaccine.

The worst part of vaccine failure is the economy will surely go down and hit the bottom rock. It's a win-win situation for the one who will create the vaccine, that's why most of the countries who have good facilities on creating medical things are in.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: jossiel on October 10, 2020, 11:20:19 PM
Every country is in a hurry Invent the vaccine, not just to fight the virus, But there is economic value in this finding. Because those who can find first can recover their country's economy earlier, Apart from that they can sell and make a profit.
Creating a vaccine in a hurry without standard regulations can make a new problems if those vaccine are gives bad side effects.
Yes. There's economic value on it whoever goes first.

But after that, everyone will start to see various vaccines that came from different manufacturers, pharma labs and other medical societies who have proven their vaccines to be effective.

The next of it is the sales of their vaccines which will be giving if not hundreds of thousands of doses but, millions of it.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: $crypto$ on October 10, 2020, 11:33:15 PM
Every country is in a hurry Invent the vaccine, not just to fight the virus, But there is economic value in this finding. Because those who can find first can recover their country's economy earlier, Apart from that they can sell and make a profit.
Creating a vaccine in a hurry without standard regulations can make a new problems if those vaccine are gives bad side effects.
This makes sense, the one who will be able to create a COVID-19 vaccine that undergoes in different trials will surely hit the market and increase their economic growth. But I hope they take the making of vaccines seriously and forget about the profit they will get on it because the lives of the people are on the line if they made mistakes on creating a vaccine.

The worst part of vaccine failure is the economy will surely go down and hit the bottom rock. It's a win-win situation for the one who will create the vaccine, that's why most of the countries who have good facilities on creating medical things are in.
Every country must have serious goals in facing vaccine trials that are made for Covi-19 and if this is traded as a whole, I think they only think about profit, not the interests of the people who are now dying from vaccines, but what I know is a vaccine is coming. from china is that right? I wonder why he always makes trades more challenging because of course I think China will take advantage of the trade and grow its economy.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: rk8814719 on October 11, 2020, 05:02:53 AM
Experts have said vaccines were likely to reach the general public in the March April 2021 drugmakers have been more ambitious with their calculations, with some firms like Moderna Inc eyeing the emergency use authorisation route to launch their shots by year end.182 vaccine candidates in pre-clinical or clinical trials across the world.36 are in clinical trials and nine in final states of human trial.best part is Some Country Covid 19 Recovery Rate Growth Like India Recovery Rate approx 80% and deat ratio 1% this good news.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Vishnu.Reang on October 11, 2020, 12:59:28 PM
Experts have said vaccines were likely to reach the general public in the March April 2021 drugmakers have been more ambitious with their calculations, with some firms like Moderna Inc eyeing the emergency use authorisation route to launch their shots by year end.182 vaccine candidates in pre-clinical or clinical trials across the world.36 are in clinical trials and nine in final states of human trial.best part is Some Country Covid 19 Recovery Rate Growth Like India Recovery Rate approx 80% and deat ratio 1% this good news.

By March-April 2021, almost a dozen different vaccines will be available in the market. It is going to be tricky for the governments, as they need to chose one out of this large number of potential candidates. The cost is also not uniform. For example, the price of a single dose of vaccine from the Serum Institute of India is less than $3. On the other hand, the vaccine from Moderna reportedly has a price tag of $37 per dose.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: gabbie2010 on October 11, 2020, 01:17:23 PM
Experts have said vaccines were likely to reach the general public in the March April 2021 drugmakers have been more ambitious with their calculations, with some firms like Moderna Inc eyeing the emergency use authorisation route to launch their shots by year end.182 vaccine candidates in pre-clinical or clinical trials across the world.36 are in clinical trials and nine in final states of human trial.best part is Some Country Covid 19 Recovery Rate Growth Like India Recovery Rate approx 80% and deat ratio 1% this good news.

By March-April 2021, almost a dozen different vaccines will be available in the market. It is going to be tricky for the governments, as they need to chose one out of this large number of potential candidates. The cost is also not uniform. For example, the price of a single dose of vaccine from the Serum Institute of India is less than $3. On the other hand, the vaccine from Moderna reportedly has a price tag of $37 per dose.
The most developed nations will get the vaccine by March- April 2021 all things being equal whereas other developing nations might not get inoculated until 2014 after all vaccines trials there is going to be a mass production while a special designated jumbo jets will be needed to airlift it to different countries which will takes time to be accomplished globally https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54067499  it will takes some few years before the economic growth bounce back globally, but I am quite sure we will get out of the woods within the shortest period of time.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 11, 2020, 04:28:24 PM
The most developed nations will get the vaccine by March- April 2021 all things being equal whereas other developing nations might not get inoculated until 2014 after all vaccines trials there is going to be a mass production while a special designated jumbo jets will be needed to airlift it to different countries which will takes time to be accomplished globally https://www.bbc.com/news/business-54067499  it will takes some few years before the economic growth bounce back globally, but I am quite sure we will get out of the woods within the shortest period of time.

I don't think that it will be that delayed. Donald Trump was saying that he expect the vaccine to be available in the United States from this month onward. He also said that by December, the vaccine should reach the majority of the citizens there. Various European nations were also giving similar timelines. So by mid-2021, I expect most of the world population to be vaccinated.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: jossiel on October 11, 2020, 08:53:06 PM
Check this news, it's the most recent in UAE about COVID-19 and vaccine. They took the vaccine from China as part of the trial.

More frontliners in the UAE given Covid-19 vaccine (https://www.khaleejtimes.com/coronavirus-pandemic/more-frontliners-in-the-uae-given-covid-19-vaccine)

UAE healthcare professionals who have received COVID-19 vaccine optimistic about trial results (https://gulfnews.com/uae/uae-healthcare-professionals-who-have-received-covid-19-vaccine-optimistic-about-trial-results-1.74494039)


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Ayiranorea on October 17, 2020, 04:50:40 AM
In recent days more fund is being allocated in large sum for the research and development of covid-19 vaccine. Compared to most other flu and virus attacks in the past, the impact of covid-19 on human beings is low. In terms of economy it is a big blow, because the economic structure and growth of the period of previous virus attacks weren't that progressive as the present.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: iamsheikhadil on October 17, 2020, 04:52:13 PM
I think this is not a disease that can really harm anymore. The virus strain has become weaker over the course of time. Herd immunity is the necessity these days and I would prefer to get infected with the virus so that I can develop a natural immunity towards it and recover it from so it never happens to me again. Hence, I think I would refuse a not very well tested vaccine because it can have devastating effects. That's why I won't prefer it on myself.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 19, 2020, 06:25:19 AM
You cannot know how the governments of different countries will actually behave in the event of a complication of the situation with covid.
Educational institutions can stop accepting children without a vaccine, so you have few choices for action. Either the vaccine and society, or its absence and isolation.

There can be coercive steps from the government, such as the one you posted. But I am not sure whether it is legally valid or not. Can the governments ban children from their classes, just because they are not vaccinated? Can they do that, especially when the side-effects of the vaccine are not well known? Legal challenges will be thrown and it will get complicated for the authorities. At the most, they can segregate the two groups and conduct teaching separately for them. 


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: culuuton on October 19, 2020, 07:00:03 AM
Mass-produced vaccines after hasty tests are extremely dangerous, I will refuse to get vaccinated even though it is free. Once the vaccine is confirmed, the economic benefits are undisputed, promoting economic resilience and increasing employment for workers. During the covid-19 pandemic, many people faced too many difficulties, hoping to get a quick and safe vaccine.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 20, 2020, 04:46:44 AM
I don't think that it will be that delayed. Donald Trump was saying that he expect the vaccine to be available in the United States from this month onward. He also said that by December, the vaccine should reach the majority of the citizens there. Various European nations were also giving similar timelines. So by mid-2021, I expect most of the world population to be vaccinated.
Still uncertain that if in the first quarter of 2021 also we may have the vaccine available in the world, so till then there is no question of anyone getting it till the time it is confirmed the vaccine is being approved. Also once being approved how will the distribution happen will be the key.

WHO is not going to approve the vaccines unless Phase 3 trials are complete. And the issue here is that these trials involve tens of thousands of people and any indication of negative side effect reported from even one of these participants stalls the whole process. I believe China and Russia are doing the right thing, by approving the vaccine even before the Phase 3 trials are completed.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: Buttermellow on October 20, 2020, 01:50:47 PM
Vaccine basically means any person who takes it of any age, gender, any climatic conditions etc should be cure the disease and should not have any side effect. So, this is what is taking time and as you mentioned that till all this condition are to fulfil WHO is not going to approve it. Hoping soon things turn out to be better for the world. 

Yeah, it is not really good to stay in this kind of situation for long. I could not do things I want to do outside because our area has high numbers of recorded cases and person under monitoring. Staying home for safety would be ideal but it would be better if we can go ourside without the threat of getting virus and probably get sick because of it.

If the vaccine will be approve hopefully it will be near enought to solve this crisis and for people to live normally again.


Title: Re: COVID19 VACCINE AND ECONOMIC GROWTH?
Post by: bryant.coleman on October 21, 2020, 04:36:42 AM
Vaccine basically means any person who takes it of any age, gender, any climatic conditions etc should be cure the disease and should not have any side effect. So, this is what is taking time and as you mentioned that till all this condition are to fulfil WHO is not going to approve it. Hoping soon things turn out to be better for the world. 

I don't agree with the first part. Vaccine does not cure any medical condition. It is a preventive medicine. There is no point in taking the vaccine, in case you have already become infected. In that case, you need to take the medicines. The normal vaccine approval process takes anywhere from 10 to 20 years, as there needs to be studies for long-term side effects. In the case of COVID 19, they are going through a hastened approval process. Even after all that, it can take up to 2 years for the process to be complete.