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September 16, 2020, 09:32:43 AM
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I heard that the vaccine from Russia has not gone through phase 3 testing...
claiming that a vaccine has been found too soon will only increase the number of corona positives and that is not good, it's better to wait until it passes the final stage before it will be announced to the public. the world is praying because only a vaccine can make our lives return to normal like before this epidemic struck.

People are running out of patience. No one want to wait for another 6 months. As far as I know, none of the potential candidates have completed the phase III trials. And the vaccine won't be available in the market immediately after the completion of trials. There are still certain regulation hurdles, which may take many months. Under these circumstances, I won't blame anyone if they prefer to take the vaccine even without the Phase III trials.

It is true though, except for Russia's Sputnik.

I am not saying that it is already a successful vaccine, I am saying that despite the lack of information since Russe is not leaking any of it said that it is fine and they already list it up as the first vaccine on the market. This is the reason why doctors are not suggesting this vaccine since it is still a risk, with a lot of vaccine being developed, most of them are still in phase III and it is true that people can't wait that long. They are starving, they need to get back to their jobs.
The world now is desperate to have our lives back to normal, they can't wait long for the vaccine and the only solution that they can see is vaccine but apparently there is such a nice and much easier solution which is to stay home most of the time and always wash hands because if we will just wait for a unsafe vaccine it can just make the pandemic worst if it turns out bad. Some countries have defeated the virus without the presence of a vaccine and if they can do it the world can and by that we don't need to desperately want a vaccine for the virus.
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September 16, 2020, 11:07:31 AM
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Even if there is a vaccines for Covid, I will not be able to inject it immediately, i will look first at what side effect it will have in the human body.

You should even do some searches about it or maybe ask someone about it since until now we are still not being given or being announced about a vaccine that went through phase III of its testings. We don't know how long will we wait for the vaccine, all we know that there are a lot of them being developed and in the tests now.

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September 16, 2020, 12:41:14 PM
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It is true though, except for Russia's Sputnik.

I am not saying that it is already a successful vaccine, I am saying that despite the lack of information since Russe is not leaking any of it said that it is fine and they already list it up as the first vaccine on the market. This is the reason why doctors are not suggesting this vaccine since it is still a risk, with a lot of vaccine being developed, most of them are still in phase III and it is true that people can't wait that long. They are starving, they need to get back to their jobs.

Sputnik is not the only vaccine available at the market right now. The Chinese army is vaccinating their soldiers with the Sinovac vaccine. And the WHO hasn't approved any of these vaccines. Some of the analysts are saying that the WHO is biased against non-Western pharmaceutical firms. I don't completely agree with them, but at this point we have only two options and they are from China and Russia. 
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September 18, 2020, 07:02:02 AM
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It is true though, except for Russia's Sputnik.

I am not saying that it is already a successful vaccine, I am saying that despite the lack of information since Russe is not leaking any of it said that it is fine and they already list it up as the first vaccine on the market. This is the reason why doctors are not suggesting this vaccine since it is still a risk, with a lot of vaccine being developed, most of them are still in phase III and it is true that people can't wait that long. They are starving, they need to get back to their jobs.

Sputnik is not the only vaccine available at the market right now. The Chinese army is vaccinating their soldiers with the Sinovac vaccine. And the WHO hasn't approved any of these vaccines. Some of the analysts are saying that the WHO is biased against non-Western pharmaceutical firms. I don't completely agree with them, but at this point we have only two options and they are from China and Russia. 

Yeah, that's the other one.

Time is really running out right now and that is why waiting for a more reliable vaccine is not another option but doctors and other people are not agreeing with this that why they are enot suggesting these two which I think makes them pick the option of waiting since it is for the best of their patients and for the best of the country as well.
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September 18, 2020, 05:53:20 PM
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Even if there is a vaccines for Covid, I will not be able to inject it immediately, i will look first at what side effect it will have in the human body.
we must not carelessly believe the vaccines that are claimed to be available because we do not know what side effects will occur in our bodies..  I heard an issue saying that the majority of corona positive patients died of kidney damage caused by the hard drugs they ate while being treated in the hospital.  I don't know whether this news is true or not but to be honest this makes me afraid of the emergence of a vaccine which is claimed to make the body immune to COVID 19..

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September 19, 2020, 10:05:08 AM
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Corona had gave both positive and negative impact to the economy. Both to the country and world economy. It increased the unemployment in many country by the corporates, to reduced the workforces. It surely had fall the flow of money in market.
Yes unemployment rate increases which teaches most of the people especially in every provinces to live in a simple way. Planting or plants becomes viral. Barter community also arises. Another, the pandemic also teaches the people to become resourceful. Since everybody is online, people uses social media to sell different products. But these kind of earning does not directly give benefit to our economy that is why our Government demands that online sellers must have tax.

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September 19, 2020, 04:22:16 PM
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Covid vaccine has been under development. More and more phases of testing is going around the world. The pandemic caused by the virus, and the lockdown around the globe has made a big economic decline. As of now the vaccines into testing isn't that affordable to all levels of people. Our government have revealed statements of providing affordable vaccine at a price around $25. Have been waiting for more than few months, because our government announced the vaccine to be on use by 15th August.

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September 19, 2020, 05:39:20 PM
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Russia is just bulshitting, they don't have a vaccine, and they certainly didn't test anything on Putin's daughter. It's just a PR move to make Russia seem to be cool, both domestically and internationally. The first real vaccine will be developed in the West, some half a year or a year from now. It might be bullish news when it will happen, and stocks would likely react positively, but the same can't be said about Bitcoin.
How can you know the Russian government lies? Do you have evidence to convince us?
I read and read the vaccine news and it all had pictures and proof. Besides, the US also pre-ordered hundreds of millions of dollars and I think this is no joke.


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September 19, 2020, 06:01:01 PM
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Even if there is a vaccines for Covid, I will not be able to inject it immediately, i will look first at what side effect it will have in the human body.

I agree with you. It's difficult to trust immediately for that vaccines that we really don't know the side effects of that. I'm afraid of that vaccine. Maybe I will wait first the result of other people that will accept that vaccine and see what is the effect to their body.

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September 19, 2020, 06:44:29 PM
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Covid vaccine has been under development. More and more phases of testing is going around the world. The pandemic caused by the virus, and the lockdown around the globe has made a big economic decline. As of now the vaccines into testing isn't that affordable to all levels of people. Our government have revealed statements of providing affordable vaccine at a price around $25. Have been waiting for more than few months, because our government announced the vaccine to be on use by 15th August.
Waiting on the government which was to be in a clinical trial for more than 3weeks would be an unreasonable conclusion when already know that Vitamin D and boost our immune system through exercise and eating balance diet is enough to combat the COVID 19.

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September 19, 2020, 11:25:21 PM
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Is a country that is fast in producing vaccines the one who will win the war against Covid? not necessarily. because this virus is growing ... I am afraid that when the time comes for Coronavirus to evolve into a virus that cannot be fought using vaccines. like the HIV virus, because they are the same, namely weaken the immune system.
maybe thanks to the presence of vaccines the economy will grow? yes this can happen if the vaccine is safe and can have an effect.

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September 20, 2020, 07:40:37 AM
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Almost every country try to make vaccine of covid 19 but until one year or corona virus still not have good way which one country have success launching their vaccine, will be just drama like developer making when their coin dump or wanna launch? How the development more than one year after covid first time show in Wuhan until now still not have vaccine how to make many people keep stronger with covid 19. I think we have fight and give more reason why and how to protect many people keep away from covid 19 and make all country healthy.

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September 20, 2020, 12:37:07 PM
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Russia is just bulshitting, they don't have a vaccine, and they certainly didn't test anything on Putin's daughter. It's just a PR move to make Russia seem to be cool, both domestically and internationally. The first real vaccine will be developed in the West, some half a year or a year from now. It might be bullish news when it will happen, and stocks would likely react positively, but the same can't be said about Bitcoin.

That's not true. Because the results have been published in one of the leading medical journals (The Lancet). They will not publish anything without verifying it many times. Putin's daughter may or may not be vaccinated against COVID 19. But it is true that Russia do have a vaccine and they have some promising results from the initial phases. But from what I have heard, a lot of volunteers are complaining about side effects.
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September 20, 2020, 01:46:05 PM
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Covid vaccine has been under development. More and more phases of testing is going around the world. The pandemic caused by the virus, and the lockdown around the globe has made a big economic decline. As of now the vaccines into testing isn't that affordable to all levels of people. Our government have revealed statements of providing affordable vaccine at a price around $25. Have been waiting for more than few months, because our government announced the vaccine to be on use by 15th August.
Waiting on the government which was to be in a clinical trial for more than 3weeks would be an unreasonable conclusion when already know that Vitamin D and boost our immune system through exercise and eating balance diet is enough to combat the COVID 19.
So, it is certain that with vitamin D we can increase immunity with a balance of eating and exercise rather than waiting for a vaccine that is not clear when it will be mass-produced which only they continue to test without any clarity when it will be finished.
Still, we have to be immune and follow the applicable protocols to avoid Covid-19. I am sure that with the immune system people can survive with makeshift drugs instead of having to wait for vaccines that are not clear and even expensive if there is one.

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September 20, 2020, 02:18:27 PM
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So, it is certain that with vitamin D we can increase immunity with a balance of eating and exercise rather than waiting for a vaccine that is not clear when it will be mass-produced which only they continue to test without any clarity when it will be finished.
Still, we have to be immune and follow the applicable protocols to avoid Covid-19. I am sure that with the immune system people can survive with makeshift drugs instead of having to wait for vaccines that are not clear and even expensive if there is one.

In my country, this "immunity booster" business has got a big spike. Everywhere, you will notice adverts and testimonials. The sales of multi-vitamin tablets have increased by manifold. Even fruit juices are now advertising, claiming that they contain certain "immunity boosters". Unlike the vaccines, they don't need any clinical trials to support such advertisements.
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I am sure that with the immune system people can survive with makeshift drugs instead of having to wait for vaccines that are not clear and even expensive if there is one.

Unlike the vaccines, they don't need any clinical trials to support such advertisements.

Weirder phenomenon in my country.  People believe more in traditional medicines, fruit, or natural ingredients that contain substances that are said to increase immunity than vaccines developed.  Even my own mother forbade me to get the vaccine if I had the chance.  How strange, right?
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Weirder phenomenon in my country.  People believe more in traditional medicines, fruit, or natural ingredients that contain substances that are said to increase immunity than vaccines developed.  Even my own mother forbade me to get the vaccine if I had the chance.  How strange, right?

One of my seafood buyers in China informed a broadcast obtained from a well-known virologist in China, namely doctor Zhang Wenghong that to avoid exposure to the coronavirus and increase the immunity needed are: consumption of lots of water, drinking milk, eating boiled eggs, rest who are sufficient and do not leave the house.

Pandemic, made the majority of supplement products in my country sold with a marketing strategy, increasing immunity and warding off covid 19, ranging from multi-level marketing products, herbal concoctions to alternative medicine with relaxation therapy to plasma therapy. The majority of people in my country also consume red ginger to increase immunity, and this condition makes the price of red ginger had jumped 100%.  Cheesy

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Weirder phenomenon in my country.  People believe more in traditional medicines, fruit, or natural ingredients that contain substances that are said to increase immunity than vaccines developed.  Even my own mother forbade me to get the vaccine if I had the chance.  How strange, right?

Actually people should consume more fruits and green vegetables, as their consumption is going down these days. If the pandemic causes an increase in the consumption of these items, then it is good news. The only thing I would recommend is to go for organic products, as a lot of this stuff available in the market contain traces of chemical fertilizers and pesticides. Traditional supplements are also good, but don't consume them without doing proper research.
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October 09, 2020, 03:59:28 PM
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If they come to me with an offer to make a vaccine for free, I'll fuck them. I would rather have natural immunity from this disease than inject myself with any vaccine. Neither Russian nor American nor any else. I will be satisfied with being in quarantine for 14 days for any signs of a cold. Vaccines are too dubious for me, I believe in biological immunity.

I don't think that anyone is going to forcefully inject you the vaccine. It is purely voluntary. And as per some of the opinion polls, almost 50% of the population in various countries are saying that they will refuse to take the vaccine. So in any case, you will get plenty of company. And there is no need to go ballistic over this virus. The mortality rate is extremely low, if you are below 30 years of age and doesn't have any comorbidities such as obesity, hypertension and diabetes.


It is not known what the authorities will do. In some countries it will be voluntary, in others, where the mortality rate is higher, it may be made mandatory.
It is not known what the future will look like, especially in those countries where quarantine measures will be introduced for people who come from abroad. They will all need to have their Covid test results, but probably a vaccine, probably.

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Every country is in a hurry Invent the vaccine, not just to fight the virus, But there is economic value in this finding. Because those who can find first can recover their country's economy earlier, Apart from that they can sell and make a profit.
Creating a vaccine in a hurry without standard regulations can make a new problems if those vaccine are gives bad side effects.
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