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Crypto gambling sites are notorious for allowing players in without any ID verification.
On its own, this isn't a disadvantage. Usually local laws can be restricting. Making it more expensive to run a casino and limiting certain geographies.

But now with eSports being a rising industry, many gambling platforms are quick to jump in the trend. Trying to incorporate more games and also more tournaments into their systems.
But I see this as something that could backfire.

First of all, as it's natural, games are played by younger audiences. Perhaps the majority of the player base in most games that are popular in eSports lately are underage even.
And this is accompanied by another trend. Parents also being more comfortable with letting their kids spend on games. Games like Gortnite and PUBG mobile are notorious for earning millions via microtransactions while being free to play. Even a free Call of Duty game was released to be monetized with micro-transactions.

The trend of free to play games with micro-transactions becoming popular is also gathering increasing attention from regulators. And these discussions often also discuss gambling. There have been discussions in several countries for instance to ban lootboxes and paid chance based drops in game.
So if gambling on crypto sites also somehow becomes popular to underage people thanks to eSports.
The concern of children developing unhealthy habits already exists against the games they play. Imagine if gambling becomes more accessible to them also. Both crypto and the platforms would be to blame in the eyes of many people. And then it'd be no surprise to see regulators trying to also regulate more against crypto and gambling in general.
In my view, underage persons should have the right to own crypto. They already have the right to own cash anyway. But allowing kids to gamble has questionable ethics.

This discussion already talked so many times, and everyone will can't control what's ever on the internet. Even they are the kids not play a gamble, their activity one of them is youtube and twice still can't control it. You can see, some of the content was contain gambling video and they could be watching the video even there has some description you should 18+ before doing a gamble on the video.

The creator only put that's description but not putting his video into 18+, so underage still can watch them. All back to the parents, if they don't want the kids watching this all content the best thing should not give them electronic like smartphone, laptop or other things.

Even the parent make the phone by limiting all the access with google kids or somethings, but sometimes your kids were more clever than you. So, discuss this topic will never getting an end.

It's not Crypto gambling that should be careful, it's the parents that should be careful. Though really tbh, I'd rather allow my children to be exposed to such scenes, especially if he likes games early on, but rather control him in a limited way. Maybe even join him, as long as funds are actually available and can be controlled that is. Back then, I used to buy a lot of microtransaction stuff, but most of it came from my allowance that I saved up. Now should parents be mad about that? When the child themselves saved up to buy something? Most would probably say yes, but I'm one of the others who would rather say no.

Not that I'm saying Gambling is good or bad, but rather letting them know of its existence should be rather positive instead, so at least, YOU yourself know that your child is exposed early on, and could guide him so that he could control himself, as well as to avoid making themselves fall too deep into the gambling game.

Indeed, it wasn't the gambling platform's purpose and safety measures to assure that all of their customers are at legal age, and any platform wouldn't mind whom their customers are as long as they profit and their system is commendable, satisfying, and fun, among the other platforms.

eSports nowadays are congested with a lot of ages, from kids aged 9 upto adults aged 50+. It isn't a bad thing as eSports' advantages are more likely better compared to its negative cons. And there's no importance if either the parent or the platform limits a kid or any age in engaging such gambling activities, as it would only lessen their clients and of course their profit.

See, what I'm saying here isn't trying to draw attention away from the responsibility of parents. But it's important to remember that under different jurisdictions, sites might be held accountable also.
So if a platform that doesn't geoblock and doesn't check ages is accepting bets on esports, its bound to receive some bets from minors. That's not the heard of the issue I'm trying to highlight here though.
What I'm trying to say is, that if too many minors get into eSports betting, then regulators are likely to start trying to limit it.

This did happen a few years ago with CSGO betting. Essentially a bunch of sites were aggressively marketing to kids to gamble with skins. This lead to regulators paying attention and starting to discuss about a potential blanket ban on transferable digital collectibles from games.
Now is a time to pay attention to this again, because a few bad apples could spoil the bunch and make crypto betting harder for everyone. I wouldn't want a couple of sites that are after a quick buck to try and lure in kids because this could lead to unforeseen consequences and restrictions that would affect everyone.

Agree on what you said, it's the parent's guidance that is needed to avoid this kind of situation where underage are gambling because of eSports. Actually, when I'm underage, I know many schoolmates that are betting because they want to support their favorite team and sometimes I'm one of those. I can't blame my parents because they already warned me about it and the school is teaching values about do's and don'ts. I already knew that it is bad but I didn't follow and just bet because of peer pressure.

The number one cause of many bad habits to a child is because of peer pressure, even the parents have full guidance, we can't still assure the good behavior of a child. In this matter, it's a big responsibility that we should put the child in a good environment to avoid these negative behavior. We should also teach them the importance of money at an early age to realize how hard to earn those things just to survive.

As long as they have access to the internet, I guess they would really know what gambling is.

As told in other threads in the past, the parents should be the ones doing their responsibility as the children's guardian, as their parent. It is not the crypto gambling sites that should be careful, parents should be aware of what their children are doing. There are a lot of gambling sites on the internet, and they can't filter all of those IPs to be children since as I said, they have access to the internet which can give them knowledge on how they could make accounts on these sites with or without KYCs.

It carries a much bigger threat message for future generations. I think the family is the first and foremost role in attracting children to gambling. Because at a very young age, parents are giving mobile phones to their children. On the other hand, those who have a little more power, they hand over the tabs and laptops to their children. As a result, not only are children more prone to gambling but they are also experiencing physical problems. So the first step is to take the parents of the children.

Kids should never gamble for sure , these sites unfortunately are trying to maintain privacy and at the same time if they ask users for ID verification most of the times it fails to attract most of the people who are in for the privacy part of cryptocurrencies.

I do believe we need to actually do something like :
Create an alternative where the age of people can be well documented, maybe the government can provide age pass for 18+ people. Some e-pass nothing else. Attached to your fingerprint.

This way they can use it for gambling , for sites which are adults only etc..

I do think this would even stop the illegal porn activities by youngsters.

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The age factor is very important to be controlled, they can fall easy into the gambling web and loose control.

If the gambling websites trying to attract kids to their site, and many of them playing gambling, the regulators will start to limit even they will ban the access. Maybe we will see one or two websites that get banned from the government while also getting warnings from the government if the websites are trying to attract the minors.

It is a serious matter for all governments because they can see that the minors will use their gadget to play gambling everywhere without any limiting. Restricting the access will work temporarily, but the kids will find out how to back to that site as in their ages, they are smarter than we can expect.

It never ends the story, but that will be hard jobs for the parents who will always guide their kids while accessing the internet.

It is the parent's responsibility to watch over what their kids are doing especially in the internet. There is nothing cryptocurrency or gambling platforms can do to control and to monitor whoever plays on their platform since most platforms don't have KYC, or even if there is, it is easy to ask for other people's document for you to pass the KYC.

That is the disadvantages of online casinos especially those casinos that didn't require any KYC's to their platform because anyone can play there even the
underage.

That is why most of the license requires the platform for KYC in order to prevent this kind of happenings or lessen it as much as possible. Though in my side, I
really hate KYC requirements.

KYC method is really important most especially in online activities because as what you have said there might be a major problem what will most likely occur if there is no KYC method one of best examples for this is if there is no KYC method the young ones may have the chance to enter the online casinos or any gambling sites which is really a big problem co'z it may lead to addiction for them or they might be a victim of scam or any other negative scenarios.

It is not within the gambling platform's responsibility to uphold this moral obligation; this should be done by their parents. While gambling platforms are bound to restrict people that are below 21 years old to play, one can still fake their identification and pursue whatever they want since there are no double checks that will happen once the initial KYC documents are in the clear--not unless if the account in question did something suspicious on the site that will prompt the operators to check their identity again.


Esports are a lot more strict and a lot more regulated than you might think. Most event organizers and tournament-regulating bodies are issuing permanent bans to teams that are caught fixing the outcomes of matches and intentionally disrupting the flow of tournaments. It's just that it's too young in the gambling scene that's why many people are still skeptical of its integrity and the way how they officiate such matches on tournaments.

While there's a possibility, match fixing becomes unlikely in the higher level where the rewards are much higher for all of the participating teams. And it's not worth for the players to destroy their career when they could potentially earn much more in the future as they could eventually improve year after year.

Only if there's too many minors but with no verification it's hard to tell.

One way I could see minors getting caught is if they start winning a lot from gambling and some casinos that don't have KYC at the start would eventually require them since they're cashing out a huge amount and if they give a fake information then they get punished for not following the rules/terms.

Yes, this is also a big concern. Many of the games that go into gambling for eSports are oftentimes from new and upcoming teams that have little to no reputation. It's hard to know if these groups will uphold their sportsmanship. This has been observed in Counter Strike: Global Offensive matches and it also gained the attention of regulators. Some say even that with popularization of open eSports league ladders this would become more widespread.

Well, we are gambling on these players' performances and match results but they, the players of these eSports games themselves, are not gambling. I am not familiar with majority of the players of these eSports and whether or not there are minors among them, but does it matter?

Some players of DOTA II, PUBG, Fortnite, Mobile Legends, Call of Duty, and other eSports joining major leagues and other tournaments may be underage but they are certainly playing with the full consent of their parents or guardians.

And, again, they are not gambling. They're joining tournaments and it so happened that these tournaments are provided with gambling odds by sportsbooks on which gamblers could place their bet.

I agree, there is a lot of price money involved and the players want to win. There have been a few scandals about match fixing, but this happened in any sport with a long enough track record. Esports is evolving as more and more people are watching it. Gamblers should have the chance to bet on their favourite sport including Esports. Also even if some players are minors they are all atleast above 16 and have the consent of their parents to play in these games and tournaments. Personally I am glad the betting on esports is growing so much.

Micro-transactions. I don't know anyone who doesn't hate it (except the people who actually play the games and spend their money on it of course).

It's a really clear way of gambling for me, but to others it's just chance that they're not forced to pay for. Brilliant strategy and it's only a matter of time before this gets regulated.

yeah, it's an approach for soft gambling.
they spend diamonds/gems/or whatever they named it, to get a chance to win premium items such as skin, weapon, etc.
the funny thing is, sometimes it is more interesting than the gameplay itself.

but when the person earns a lot of money they immediately block the person's account and ask for KYC, I think that anyone who uses gambling sites that accept cryptocurrencies that person should not think that he will be safe that he will not to do KYC, at least otherwise you should always think that eventually you will be asked to do KYC. That is why I think that if a minor enters a gambling website where his TOS does not allow anyone under the age of 18 to use the gambling website then that minor should know that all his effort and profit belongs to the gambling site

In the end, cryptocurrency in esports is way better then skin gambling and scummy websites and kids throwing money on something like skins.

Much as I thought, parents are the true controllers of their hobbies and not those gambling platforms. Eaports will definitely surface and take over some good portions on the internet, the responsibility of parents are to ensure strict regulations among childrens while on the internet.

Good God: children are smarter than most parents these days and their possibility of controlling the children's won't be feasible. KYC can be override by these kids with the help of parents documents: e shock u?, few months ago a young and smart boy sold his father land and traveled to Russia. In conclusion, KYC won't be a hindrance to smart children.

I think crypto gambling sites without bringing esports in are widely known and accessed by underage kids.
So it is not only crypto gambling sites that must be careful, but parents are also more careful in watching
their kids. This problem will not find a solution as long as there is no regulation from the government, and
the internet is indeed difficult to control.
 

to be honest there are no stopping kids from going online and gambling unless the parents either ask their internet provider to block any adult website, gambling sites etc.. or the gambling site requires KYC upon registering from their website. but speaking from experience as a person who exposed to gambling at a very early age it never occurred to me to gamble money because of the game I play. I was more interested in actually playing the game than placing a bet of who would win from the game I play. the loot boxes became a problem because it was in the game while gambling sites are outside of the game.

Parental Guidance can only be the solution, it's hard to limit crypto gambling sites as they are operating in many countries and even with countries that have restrictions thru Internet it can still be access using some softwares.
Esports is indeed popular now that many gambling site may accept it and may be access by kids anywhere. In my country the solution can be limiting the money to give in kids to avoid them betting or using it in gambling, now where in Pandemic  and homeschooling parents were able to see what their children's are doing often.

The parental guidance is the real the solution too imho, and I think parents should focus on how they can really help their kids be a responsible one. I don't think not allowing them to play can help, it will just make them sneak from you just to play. You will just push them to keep a secret from you and it will be much harder to help them be a better person.

I think letting them play while making them understand the risk and the responsibility they have as gamers can do, they will bring it in any aspect of life too. Let them understand the idea of gambling not to teach them but the help them avoid it. They can play as long they know the limit of what they should do or what they should avoid. Kids can understand these things, as long as you explain it to them in a good way. I know it cause as a kid, I did keep a secret just because they are not allowing me to do a certain thing instead of explaining why I shouldn't do it or why should I limit it. It creates a gap between parents and their children.

I really appreciate what you said here. It is a indeed a good example how to nurture children.
In this trend, children are the most vulnerable and intensive parental guidance is a must.
If we follow them and guide them through whatever they do, it is easier for them to understand your points as a parent.

KYC is one of the best solution, but that also takes away the meaning of anonymity that most user enjoy. Well, i don't see any problem with underage kids betting in esports tournament because Cryptocurrency is partially anonymous then regulators wouldn't actually know who's, who. The only problem is children under that age shouldn't be addicted to it. But what about the law that prohibits teenager to visit porn sites? Isn't that much more urgent as well? Why not just censor those kinds of sites just like in China?

I think this is not just about the crypto gambling site, I mean even if they don't allow minors to gamble in their site if the person really wants it, he will do anything to enter or to gamble even if he's a minor. We can't blame the gambling site for having e-sports because they don't specifically offer that for minors so they don't have to adjust or what, it's always the guardian who should be responsible when their child gets into gambling at a young age.

This is one of the challenges today’s technological advancement made in the society. Children, the younger generations as a whole, are very keen with technology. In this circumstance, in particular, the gambling sites neither parents don’t have assurance that minors would refrain from gambling in their age, prohibited to gamble by the jurisdiction.

This is not an ending discussion with regards to jurisdiction of the kids so also I can say kyc could be the most solution indeed. Also the big contributions here is the parents should guide their kids in crypto gambling sites since some are being addicted into playing. There's so much to tackle in restricting the children because some kids are unstoppable and also the important to censor those sites that are not good to the users.

I think someday crypto casino will make a way to refrain minority to play in their casino, But as of now KYC is the best choice and on the legal side wants it. Kids today become lustful in playing casinos and crypto casino is one of their ways to play some gambling. Kids today are so much attracted to esports games and betting sides need some way to make minorities stay away from them. Parents should teach their children the limits that they can go in the internet before it is too late for them to be addicted to it.

Personally I have always thought that it is ridiculous that casinos allow you to gamble without having to go through know your customer policies but then if you try to withdraw your money that is when they try to make you prove your identity, in my opinion if a casino wants to implement those policies then they should do it before they even allow you to gamble that way we could avoid the scenario that you are presenting in which someone that is underage is able to gamble when in most jurisdictions this is considered to be illegal, however I will not blame eSports for this as most likely this is already happening.

Esports has no age restrictions on most of the games and the official tournaments giving huge reward for the players but about the esports gambling which itself can turns out into be a shady one like match fixings can happen.Crypto gambling sites aware of the age restrictions but it is not a big task to break the barrier if there is any on the internet world.So it should be self discipline related issue and nothing can be done from outside world.

   I see some games on television, not so often, when people play League of Legends, Counter Strike, Dota, and some other games.
I like to watch it, and I tried some of these games, they are really good, I understand why there is hype around them. I also read
about people who bet on these e-sport games and their stories are good, they say they win a good profit, they wrote it's easy
to spot favourites once you get more into teams and who is better.
   Even I am old I like e-sports and I think it's the future, I see many kids playing, and they like the games more than traditional
games. I will start paying more attention on e-sports in the future, and maybe I will start placing some bets.

Nobody here allows kids to gamble. It's the kids' decision to do that and none can stop them taking into account their stubborn nature. Control is in the hands of parents and so, they can decide where to stop their kids from entering. If parents are caring and they do have a watch on their kids, it is not possible for such kids to give any time to gambling. Yes, eSports does have underaged kids playing games like CS:GO, DOTA2 and the craze that's immensely rising these days is for PUBG. Speaking very frankly, I never played PUBG and I think I'll not play that game till my last breath. It is better to stop kids from playing these games so to give their valuable time in nurturing themselves through education and learning.

I do not think it is so specifically for what you say "eSports," is your perception, certainly not measurable from a precise statistical point of view, that is, we cannot say with certainty how many minors play the casino or gamble illegally , this is a great disadvantage to attack your approach that obviously exists.

I do not want to seem that I defend the industry, because we all want the benefit for our children and adolescents.

Online gambling and casinos exist on the Internet since the Internet appeared, not at the same rate but similar to what happened with the Blockchain. So minors have been gambling for years, it's not new.

In fact, in the Boom of online poker back in 2003, some data was handled, not precise, but because online poker in those years was allowed to track the winnings, it sometimes happened that some big prizes were cold because the winners were minors.

Many of those "maybe" online players will have problems but many of them are today's professional players, that is, the danger is always there, but not because you get a +18 banner, everything will change, the matter is the basic principles that as a family we must instill in our children, a child or adolescent must behave well, not only under supervision, so, what is really important is that they do so when they are not under the supervision of anyone.

Shouldn't their parents be responsible in the first place? A parent shouldn't leaver their "underage" children with unsupervised internet access. Games like call of duty which you mentioned has PEGI rating of 18. Their parents shouldn't be letting them play it in the first place. And how is crypto gambling going to be popular among those kids? How are they going to start buying crypto currencies without identity verification (unless they plan to do it illegally)?

Indeed. No parents would allow their children to gamble because no parent would let their child to have a bad future or make them addicted in gambling, that is why it is a parents fault if they are irresponsible for letting their child gamble or any bad habit. But I don't think games like CS:Go, DOTA2, LOL, and other violent games would result a bad habit to an underaged child, as long their parents would limit them from using or playing these computer games. So they could not forget their studies and social life.

Anything that is too much can affect them or push them into addiction. These games were too popular in my country that some were able to earn from it through streaming and doing live. I don't if it already become a problem to other parents that they children that some children thinks that what they're doing can help them to earn as there are young children doing live also but proper time management is need to balance the things and parents can guide them.

these kids still need proper guidance from their parents. if they have solid foundation when it comes to handling money, then they have no problem even when they are not around with their kids. sometimes it is the attitude that you instilled with their minds that will keep them away from being a gambling addict. the very foundation of their youth. but even if you, as a parent, did provide them the foundation, you still need to watch out for them, because once they are alone in the internet, you don't know what they are capable of.

Anything can really be changed up thats why parenting and guidance would really be still needed.Not from time to time but at least you are checking them once in a while.

Parenting does really have a big role when it comes to these kind of issues because it all starts from home.If you do mold them up which they are aware on how gambling addiction can really mess out

then they would really be much be careful on dealing with it incase they do decide to gamble but they do have such control because they have been taught on what are its cons.

there are parents that are irresponsbile but there are kids that dont have an interest on gambling or computer games  , these parent are lucky and they dont judge but others  . there are also parents that are responsible but thier kids are uncontrollable and will still make a way to gamble  . these parent are also falsely being judge by others  .

if its a violent game , it can affect the childs attitude .  this is the reason why theres a number or age recomendation on every game title   . we can allow our kids as long as the games are kid friendly too

Yes, kids need their parents to guide them from making a mistake, so they don't go in the wrong direction.
Become parents need more responsibility to take their kids from kids into adults to think which is good and not good.
Many parents have let their kids play with their mobile phones, and they don't check what their kids are doing.
So when the eSports games are integrated with the cryptocurrency, I think that can make the kids easily ask their parent's money to buy equipment in their accounts.
But that can also trigger the kids from playing gambling without their parents know.

Actually, it hasn't been proven that violent video games lead to violence. This has actually been a notion pushed by conservatives and Christian lobbyists for some reason. This is the reason that age ratings on video games can be restrictive. Lobbyists being successful doesn't also mean that what they claim is true.

In terms of gambling though, it's not always as apparent to parents what the kids are doing. Most websites that allow underage persons in also take care of their payment methods being more covert. For example, when gambling was allowed with CSGO skins, parents would have had no idea their kids were gambling. It's just not visible in their receipts. All they would see was Valve software. Then the skins would be transfered to some shady unregulated websites with no reputation. In this case, if regulation is required to be more effective, it'd need more than a simple rating but enactment of more preventative measures. That's why I'm saying that if regulators start seeing this as a problem then all sites might start having problems.

The main point here is, they need to update their rules and regulations for those minor age. Those kids don't have patience when they use their Dad's card. they might get carried away and use all of that and the result when their parents found out about it, the site behind it will be closed and sued by the authorities and they can't help but follow because of what they have done to the kids.

Indeed. Younger people are the ones who can easily adapt technology that's why they are more prone to online gambling because they can easily explore various things on the internet. Without really the proper guidance of their parents, they can discover online casinos without their parents knowing it. Gambling sites have their responsibilities like prohibiting minors from their sites, but parents should be the ones to always monitor their children because gambling sites can't really stop minors if they really want to gamble.

As far as I know the ISP cannot just block a website just because the client say so, if that's the case then public wifis could have banned 18+ websites or any gambling platform. There are already restrictions given by the rules of the platform, I think that's enough for now. Parents should be accountable on their minors, parent's supervision is required until 18 years old isn't it?

As for crypto casino putting KYC procedure would just ruin the very essence of integrating the cryptocurrency as it offers pseudonymity.

I started with gambling when I was a kid, first it was football, of course with friends, we played football every day, we had passion for that. Now when kids are more into e-sports probably they will bet on their favorite teams, and they will discover the world of betting. It's not something you can control, kids will find the way if they want to, like most of us, so why not to focus on education, to not speak about gambling in negative way, let's try to
learn our kids how to gamble and how to control their urges for gambling, and all other vices, and there are other more dangerous vices than gambling is, from my point of view.
 

I agree with this. During the early days of Dota 2 when there's still dota2lounge. We gamble with items/skins and it's already giving that excitement to me and my friends when we bet. And just like any other kids during those times, we don't care how much we'll spend on it as long as we're happy.

If we want to exchange it for cash, we need to trade or sell them through P2P with any person that is interested in the items that we've won. Unlike this time, it's easier for any person even a kid to register and bet with any e-sports games and deposit even without KYC.

Technology is upgrading very fast and new innovation will really come out and on todays era where young minds can really be exposed into these things at a very young age and we have seen those number differences
on past years comparing to now where e-sports is really becoming big and known.To know that prize pools do even go beyond multi-million of dollars which means it does really have that kind of level of recognition.
Crypto gambling sites had already list out or include e-sports for a while now and theres no stopping of it if they do saw that demand is there.There are even solely dedicated e-sports fiat gambling sites.
No surprise if that would be clinging up to this market also.

I agree, no parent would allow their children to gamble.

But that would be a different conversation when we are talking about the parents not knowing their children they're gambling. There are a lot of children that are addicted to these games, and their parents wouldn't know most of them and they are even letting their children buy these loot boxes thatmaight make them want gambling more.

You can always lock players in a something like "glass ball"  for the duration of "Olympics" and thus solve the problem. It seems absurd but maybe the only solution?

It's true that loot boxes are currently viewed as a gateway to addiction and compulsive gambling. Many countries have banned them or are considering banning them. If there's a second wave of gambling among kids, even outside of games. Regulations might not be as relaxed this time. I'd argue that certain gambling sites catering to gamers are even more accessible nowdays than what microtransactions in games used to be like for. Back in the day you had to buy prepaid balance cards for games. Nowdays you can just deposit on gambling sites via debit card in seconds, and it's the same with crypto sites, they just integrate a payment processor that accepts cards.

This will be a major problem of most parents because the truth is, they can't supervise their kids 24/7.
There are a lot of kids gamers so going to gambling sites will be easy access for them.
So maybe what parents can do, is instill the discipline to their kids and inculcate the value of money.
Also, have open discussion when it comes to gambling. It is better to tackle it rather than avoid this kind of discussion.

There is no way a crypto-gambling site can monitor and implement an age limit requirement unless KYC is mandatory which is not the case for now or only possible at most fiat online sports betting sites. It's not their problem anymore if kids able to access the site.

Currently, lots of youngsters are addicted to playing Esports but I truly believed not purely on the point that they will register in a gambling site then place a bet.

They do gambling via P2P. Either:

a) Teams vs Teams
b) Betting on a specific event for Moneyline (the usual)

I've been there and as it was a hype here in my area.

Even it's possible and chances that kids will bet on a Gambling site soon, I found it not alarming. After all, if they behave wrongly, I trust their parents or friends will notice it and that's the time they will give advice and help.

Pretty well, there are multi millions that being yield into this gambling market, it's no longer stoppable indeed, as there are many participants and with young minds those youth who are exposed to this gambling will continue to participate.
If there are more exposed to this the adults with them needs to monitor them in order to avoid any bad effects to this people.

Our world has changed already. The digital technology is fast changing and if parents can't cope up with this fast pace in technology, these kids will explore things that their parents are not aware of. And to combat this potential problem, I guess one way to address this is to foster them about the importance of money and how to spend it wisely. As parents can't watch their kids all day long, they need to find a way how to give them life long lessons that they can keep.

In these 10 years, technology has grown fast. Many new technologies are invented to help people. And that technology for the new games also grow and evolve to the new interface. I am aware that kids now become smart, and they will easily use the mobile phone from their parents to play any games or browse anything.

If there are no responsibilities from their parents, I am afraid that kids will explore the internet from the mobile phone to visit any website. Usually, the kids will click the link that shows on the mobile phone, and they don't know what the links are.

And if you notice, the incoming parents will also be used to these technologies.

Most of them are from the Millennial generations, in fact there are already parents at that generation and their children are now being exposed to technology at an early age. In 10 years span I don't think we should be having a problem with technology, since most of these parents know most of the things about it, security, regulations and other sorts will be the ones we should be talking about.

I agree. Everything now is just one google away, and even kids with the age of 5 and up, they know how to use tablets and other devices, so it is inevitable for them not to know gambling unless parents would ban their children using google and other search engines.

You might say that there's a lot of way to search it on the internet and the solution for that is check their history always, and then you'll be able to know what stuff they are into. If it's bad stuff then talk to them nicely explaining they shouldn't do that again or they will be punish, simple as that.

i see . so gambling and esports are linked to each other  , i thought gambling sites are the one that can damage the reputation of esports but it looks like esports are .  because standard gambling casino do already have restrictions and so far its fine running but if esports are introduced there are chance that kids  can be found out gambling on them  .

this can also be the reason why esports betting isnt really that popular than sports betting because of the lack of support  .

The world is changing very fast and it is not possible to control the kids. One thing which we should do is to develop trust with our children so whatever they do, they should inform the parents. You really can't stop children when everything including gambling is accessible from computers and mobile phones.

i think some esports matches are usually used for gambling venues but that is only a few and only certain people and even though there are children, they don't do much gambling in esports, they prefer to enjoy the style of play of esports players which can be used as an example to be great person.

That is true, it's very hard to control children but that doesn't mean they don't need control.  Of course, you can't monitor them all the time and developing trust is very important but one of conditions for that is education. Children need to be well educated and informed how such websites are not designed for them and that they might get into problems.

Kids for the most part learn by imitation, if you see any kid that may seem to have some problem with gambling, alcohol or any kind of addiction at such a young age you can be sure you can track this to the family environment, this is why blaming casinos for this when they make all the efforts to not accept underage people on their establishments is wrong, however it is way easier than to simply accept there are people that are not good parents and they perpetuate their own problems on their kids creating a vicious circle that takes a lot of effort to break.

Its reality and does really happen on some families on where they cant able to guide up their children well but not all but there are families which is like this.

And later on they would really make some blame without even mirroring themselves if they are that responsible as a parent. Kids nowadays is much more expose

on such innovation and tech, its up to its guardian on how to guide them up on the right way.

Perhaps, what we can do for our children is watching them, and give the right information about the internet and something that they search, so they don't misunderstand, and they know the right. Developing the trust to them is necessary so between the parents and the children will have a bond to have a trust.

That is why we need always to discuss everything, including what they got in many ways. We don't want to see them get a problem while they access the internet.

In my opinion, crypto gambling and esports are related, so it is only natural that gambling sites want to join esports right now.
However, as explained in the opening post, esports users are mostly a younger audience, which is the majority of children are
underage. But most gambling site owners don't care about this issue, they think only profit. Therefore, the role of parents is very
important here, by monitoring the activities of their children, so that they do not have access to adult sites or gambling sites.

Very well said. The rules of parents and guardians are very important, young minds always find ways to continue whatever they've already been addicted with.

Sports gambling house are only after with money they'll not care about anything, they'll blindly ignore whoever brings money to their business. Better to make sure that your kids are being well guided/guarded.

This is a risk for all parents, we can't blame the gambling site or all platform who related to gambling. This is because the technology has been changing everyday, indeed in one side the development of the technology is really help for us. We can do anything with an easy way because the technology has helped us. But in another side, there is a bad affect that will arise because the development of technology. Like gambling and I just think that playing games (PUBG, Fourtnite and etc) are also bad for the children. They will be addicted in it, remember all the addicted thing is wrong right? So, this is about how parents take care and educate their children, if they do well the children will never fall to the bad thing and it is otherwise.

But if all addicted things are wrong, why not ban alcohol or cigarettes? A lot of people get addicted to them too. I agree with you that it's the job of the parents to educate their kids and not governement. The thing with betting is that it's not limited to online or crypto casinos. There are plenty of small betting stores in my city where everyone go in an start betting on sports. As kid I was already betting as no one was asking for my ID. It's not just the online gambling community who has a problem with minors using their services.
In my opinion if gambling sites would not allow any esports betting there will just be other sites opening to cover that demand. If people want to bet on esports we should let them, as long as it is responsible.

Gambling sites in my opinion can perfectly well be held liable for targeting an underage demographic knowingly.
Don't get me wrong, I do still believe that sites for gambling on video games and betting eSports should exist. They have a right to do so and if governments don't want to allow them there's still bitcoin to act as an alternative.

But the issue comes when legislators see young people excessively suing these sites. These stories can easily reach the ears of those in power, and their 'think of the kids' mindset could effect the entire industry if new regulations are brought forth. Such swift action against gambling platforms was moved by a boom that had many youtubers advertising gambling with CSGO skins for instance. It was obvious that these youtubers had a very young audience so the targeting of that audience couldn't have been but deliberate.

Long story short in my opinion, best for eSport gambling sites to stay a bit under the radar, at least for the time being. That's for the sake of the entire industry, because even a few sites after quick profit could spoil the bunch.

Teaching kids to gamble and exposed him with lots of funds is really not a good idea for me, because when they grow up they will spend money carelessly. They should first learn how to manage and how hard it is to earn money. So that, if ever they discover gambling they'll learn to limit themselves psychologically and to not get bankrupt because they couldn't handle the loss of bankroll.

It is not a good idea to teach children to gamble and there will still be bad effects after adulthood the current thinking is very different how to manage money properly even seniors still can't handle this, it would be nice not to introduce gambling to young children.

Even adults have a lot of addiction, especially children who are taught to gamble, oh really unethical for me.

It carries a much bigger threat message for future generations. I think the family is the first and foremost role in attracting children to gambling. Because at a very young age, parents are giving mobile phones to their children. On the other hand, those who have a little more power, they hand over the tabs and laptops to their children. As a result, not only are children more prone to gambling but they are also experiencing physical problems. So the first step is to take the parents of the children.

The possibility of a children to learn gambling that is just through borrowing/using his/her parents or guardians smartphones/computers is actually very low. Mostly that he can see on their phones are just what us normally see on social media. Most of the children with young age, prefer to just watch on youtube, that scenario, what should be watch on the children is what he is watching, if it is appropriate.

Gambling will not be access very easy with that young age children.

Well yeah, possibly but I don't think kids will be interested on this industry. I mean, the vast majority do not like too much work as they had to think where they would get money, learn on how would they transfer it to such platform let alone learning how to bet with crypto. It might be a threat but I don't see any plausible reason for them to go such length aside from liking the game so much. Yeah, they maybe had already crossed gambling stuff particularly in eSports already, however, I am pretty sure they would instead watch somethin' else related to a certain game they like that would entertain them rather than gettin' themselves stress out over the things about gambling; odds, etc.

Agree, as long as kids don't have money to be used in gambling, there's nothing to worry about it. That's the reason why parents are the ones who saving their child's money to avoid spending on useless things. Also, kids are afraid to lose money because even a penny, they're already happy with it. So definitely, they won't spend it on gambling that doesn't have good results to them because they are always hoping to get something that will make them happy. Kids aren't techy enough to bring themselves in a crypto betting platform even it is related to games because there's a complexity.

I think there are still some children who like gambling even though there are not many kids who do it, only the children of the rich who might be able to gamble because only a few children get such privileges, because for the children of the rich like that money not a problem for them and make the child happy with what he is doing.

No matter if they are children or adult people, gambling will try to tempt them and invite them to play gambling at least once in their lives. But yeah, some children still playing gambling, whether their parents know or don't know, because once they learn to gamble and enjoy the games, they can make them play again in the next days. It's like an adult people playing gambling, and if they can make money from gambling, they will try to play more and more.

It is not just a rich kid, but other kids play gambling too, especially if their friend asks them to follow playing gambling. We need to concern about that, and still watch closer to what they do so that parents can explain the details to their children.

This is what I thought too, kids will still learn about gambling in their life anyway. I've learn to gamble my marbles when I was young, my allowance at school too, my other toys as well, they will learn it in every aspect. So what we can really do is inform them right away about it, make them understand as soon as possible why it is prohibited. Be open to them and make them really understand it.

It ain't a talk about being poor or not, bot will learn it anyway, especially when they are playing. Gambling is all around, we may not notice but there's always a part where we gamble something when we are playing too. Parents should supervised their kids, not too strict. Just don't create a vibe or a wall with them that will make them be secretive to you.

I don't see what the problem is with eSports, they help casinos gain more customers, and potentially help new casinos open up.

For us, as players, that's a good thing. We want increased diversity which will come from increased competition.

Plus, the younger generation doesn't really follow real sports as much, which means if casinos want to stay relevant, they pretty much need to get with the programme.

Years do really pass and there would be changes when it comes to that which they would really need to consider to add up so that they would really be still be on the game.

I dont see for these youngsters nowadays doesnt involved with e-sports yet gaming industry had become big and do gradually get that recognition.Come to think that

tournaments do generate multi-million dollar prize pools which really indicates on how many do really get involved or do know about e-sports.

You are right that rising up competition will really be good for us since this will really create more options for us to choose or when it comes on selecting a wide variety of games.

So we have the same things when we were young because I am gambling my marbles too, using a card with money for the winner, guess what type of the next car that we've met, and else. But I stop when my father caught me gambling my marbles, and he scolds me. But then my father explains to me why I should not gambling with my marbles. Kids learned by themselves, and they have full of ideas that we never thought.

That is why parents need to watch their kids when they grow up because without giving them attention, they can become anything that we never expect. I don't like too strict in a watch or take care of them because that can make them not feel comfortable, especially when they are with their friends. So no matter if they visit online crypto gambling or fiat gambling site by coincidence, they will know that they should not try because they know the risk.

As a parent mate, we need to be more watchful on our kids and what I see on your insights that's the best mindset to consider. Because most people these days doesn't value this kind of parenting, they'll making their kids more liberated without knowing the bad effects on their future lives. Gambling is good when times of winning entertainment but it's a stressful thing once you're drowned in debt so it's very important that our kids will be educated with positive and bad sides of it.

Many parents don't watch their kids, especially when they are in the public area, and they busy with their mobile phones to chat, telephone, or playing games. They think that when they are in public areas, they can let their kids play around with their friends, but that is not what their kids want.

And when their kids play with their friends, parents don't know what they played to make their kids try to know gamble with their money. Soon, if their kids are still curious about winning from the games, they will try to play other games, but with money involved. Become parents is not easy because it needs more attention from the parents themselves, and they need to responsibilities to their kids.

The idea of young people being exposed to vices in order for the to understand better isn't something new. It's been around for ages. But gambling online is an incredible nuance. Many parents didn't even have the chance to experience it to know what it's like. And it's often hard to make the distinction between game and gambling. Oftentimes the casinos make it deliberately ambiguous. And it's also oftentimes very hard for parents to spot the difference unless they're actively involved. I think bitcoin has some legitimate market uses even for children.

But if giving bitcoin to a child is risking making them addicted to gambling then it's also a bad look for the currency itself.

I think it's not just about the age but also due to the nature of esports. It's totally technology based and not everything is as visible as on other sports. You can easily fake of not looking and something or somewhere and no one can capture every players and characters. The people involved in esports are mostly expert in technology and mostly don't have a social sporting environment as other sports players does. They are not generally accompanied with other staff. But again a gambling company do profit from margin and not the win or loss. It's the gamblers who need to be aware of it.

I understand what you guys are trying to confer between the regulations on gambling sites that advertise e-sports and the discipline taught by the parents on their kids.
The hard reality is, even with the necessary discipline given by the parents, as long as the kid is exposed to technology and has access to different kinds of gaming platforms, these type of problems are often inevitable. When kids engaged into playing, they seek knowledge from the game so they sought to search it on the internet. Even if gambling sites do not have any regulation or KYC functions before betting, if the kid has access to the site then it would depend on his discretion if he wants to bet or not.

I do agree that parents should be held accountable for the actions of their kids but they also need to understand that the present age of technological advancement makes it inevitable for kids to experience these. It is kinda relatively difficult where to draw the line on regulating gambling sites and having to discipline the children.

I don't think underage players from eSports are trying to play gambling. They were just there to play online games that they like but for some players who do know what is gambling and does know how to play must be stop from playing if he's just gambling. We all know how dangerous gambling games is in the long run.

This is the wrong logic (i mean OP). All these good intentions on the one hand are fair and on the other they call for what? To KYC/AML, to canceled transactions, total control and other delights of the fiat world. I believe that teenagers are a zone of responsibility for parents and not for those who develop games or cryptocurrency.

OP seems to think that mostly young people play games so young people will also bet on them, but young doesn't mean underaged.

Most of us knew how to play card games when we were young and we played but how many of us played for money? Not many because we had very little money when we were kids and games were meant to be fun.

If a 12 year old plays playing CS hears about esports betting he won't start to gamble all of a sudden. If he had money he could gamble buying keys and trading skins.

When gambling operators integrate or include eSports they did not think or consider that those who will be playing are kids they included it for their matured players, so it's not their fault, they can post parental guidance on the homepage, but the responsibility of restricting kids from playing in gambling sites are the parents.
The parents should know what their kids are doing online what sites they are browsing and they can restrict gambling sites on their browser.

I think that is the worst there.

For them, they are just having fun, they are just trying to get stickers, skins, guns, heroes, or whatever that could make them the game interesting for them but what they don't know is that they are already gambling. I think that could mainly affect these children and might influence them to do gambling since they are used to taking these risks buying loot boxes.

This is an interesting point of view, I agree with you. If we compare the attractiveness of different games for young people, then gambling is likely to be an outsider, like chess) It is very difficult to compete with entertainment content, the majority of young people are looking for entertainment and not earnings.

Those who play gambling are more concern about the earnings rather than the entertainment. Also gambling is played mostly by the young and middle aged people. They do find it entertaining as well and of course there is nothing more entertaining than earning the money while playing.

It is not possible that they can play gambling and yet they do not know it is gambling. You have to deposit money before playing. From whom these children take money ?

There is difference between online games and gambling because most of the online games are free of cost while money is involved in gambling.

They could get their money from playing these games as some of them have a reward system and if they're lucky enough to get one of the rare drops they could easily earn $10-$20 by putting those items on the market or trade them to another site before the value goes down heavily.

If it's only for casino i'd agree that one of the entertaining part in gambling is winning money but it depends on what you're betting on because on sports betting it can still be entertaining even if you're losing.

This is what I meant. And I conclude that young people make a choice in favor of ordinary entertaining games where they spend money without any hope of earning money (buying games, equipment in games, etc.) because they prefer entertainment and do not think much about making money. Therefore, I think that ordinary games are more dangerous for young people (if we are talking about addictions) than gambling.

Well, you should've decided that before you bet though it is really disappointing sometimes to bet in sports and esports since even though you are deeply analyzing the team and the possible things that would happen in the game, there might be some things that could affect the result and let the other team win. Still, we are betting so we should really expect losing too. That is why parents should really be careful on these things for their children.

It is very difficult to identify users of gambling sites without KYC procedures, it is very difficult to prevent underage users from
accessing gambling sites. So actually the gambling site provides esports betting options or not, it still doesn't prevent underage
users from accessing the gambling site. The best way should be from parental supervision, by limiting their kids from accessing
the internet.

Seeking new things is part of human nature. No way we can't totally control it.

Gambling sites aren't responsible if there's an underage using their site. That's beyond their control so even with lots of notices that they should be at least legal, there will always a way for these minors to gamble there.

Esports is taking the spotlight and many minors love the game. We just hope they will not go into a worst path when they gamble.

For the most part the government has lost the battle against the people which is why things like alcohol and cigarettes are legal, the governments gave up knowing the costs of combating the consumption of those products will cost them a lot more and they will lose the taxes they bring to their coffers so they were pragmatic about it and decided to make them legal, and now we are seeing the same process happening all over the world with the legalization of cannabis consumption for recreational use.

Crypto-gambling sites are doing business. Bringing eSports to their platform might increase their bettors. They shouldn't stopped nor be careful just because of kids involvement in gambling.

No one can really control if these kids will be introduced to gambling especially that most of them are enthusiast of playing and following E-Sports games.

Restricting them will just force them to think of a way how to gamble, even by illegal way. There will really be a time that they will be involve in gambling even without these eSports betting as gambling industry is vast.

It is more on how the kids are raised, how they can tackle this potential problem. As we are going digital, most of these kids have the access that their parents don't know about. So if they have good foundation, they will know how to handle these things and what to do with their money. If they have no access with funds, how can they spend much in the first place? And if they work just to earn money, then they will know the value of the money and should not be wasted in gambling.

It is not easy to prevent the kids from accessing a gambling site because when they can use their mobile phones, and we are not beside them, they can free to visit websites. They can visit gambling or porn websites from the advertisement because they will see other websites' ads.

The kids need to be watched, and parental supervision will be needed and necessary, so we can suggest the website that they can visit. Sometimes, when they are playing games, they will see the ads about playing gambling. Or when they use social media, they can see any ads inside their account.

That's true we cannot be with them all the time, we can restrict the gambling sites from our ISP but it's different when they are out of home and they carry their phone, what the parents can do is to educate their children about the risk of gambling at a very young age, if you have discipline your child, you don't even have to guard him.

I am worried when seeing the kids playing with their friends because we never know what they will play. Sometimes, even if we watch closer of them, we might miss something from our kids, so they can feel free when we don't' watch them.

I think the parental guide will be a must thing that every parent needs to do because we are too busy with what we did, and we might leave them for just a while, but they can do anything. I agree that every parent needs to educate their kids to know which is good and bad to think by themselves, and if they are curious about something, they can ask us.

and this is sometimes becomes the reason why they will change attitude and the worst is suicidal because of their activities
that they cannot open to us parents.
that is why i really don't want my Son to use internet without our permission and mostly with our side so we can see
what he is doing.
i Let my Wife stays in the House and i am the only one who will find funds for out family,so She can watch Him closely and guide for the bright future.
Though i Let Her do some online stuff to add some funds but with assurance that She will check Him from time to time.

Minors are very prone to this game as they are the one who really loves and enjoy playing Esports.
And same with your statements gambling house even they've provide lots of warnings minors are good in bypassing
such rules, even sometimes there's kyc this millennial can still find the ways.

Mostly children learns gambling either from their Own family e.g parents,brothers,relatives or community,some are from the influences of School mates or class mates and the modern and popular now are internet,they can be attractive in all of this and might follow the steps that is why very important is the guidance and continues reminding about the badness of gambling and what this can bring them if not controlled.

That can happen if they can't open their problem to us, and I see many young ages end their life by suicide. The problem is not difficult, and perhaps, it's simple, but that person is not told to their parents about that, so they end their life while they left a letter to explain why they kill themselves.

Yes, when it's related to our kids, we must protect it but don't overprotective because they need space. We can try to be their parent, friend, and someone that they need.


Many of us let our wife stays at the house to teach, guide, and protect our kids with a purpose our kids will know things that good and bad. A lesson from moms will give them an understanding of life and something that they will use when they grow up. We can check their mobile phone periodically to know what they browse, and they did.

Like all the other here I agree that the parents should be in control on what their children are doing online, there are a lot of good E-SPORTS sites that kids can play and not those who that are integrated into gambling sites, parents should not introduce gambling to their kids at a very young age, or they will have problem when they aged as they will be hooked to gambling.

Parents can at least set their mobile phone protected content, privacy, and payment methods, so the kids can not use for something that their parents don't know. The parents need to explain that playing gambling is not good for them because once the kids become addicting, they can use their parent's money to gamble. The parent's control always needed to prevent the kids from browsing on the gambling or the other thing that they should not visit in their ages.

I agree, controlling the money is a good way to enforce strict no gambling rules. But there are also a lot of apps having casino games with play money. And the kids could still use their monthly allowance to gamble. It's better to supervise the kids more closely in my opinion. I remember when I was younger I was using various apps which where instantly added to my monthly phone bill. So my parents didn't really notice at first where I was spending my money. And only after a some months they noticed.

The backfire must not be against on the crypto gambling sites and any platform but should be on the parents side for the fact that the regulation with regards to what their children should play, watch, and learn must be under their guidance and not to be reliant from the restrictions coming from any platform that is present on the internet. We cannot control how the advertisement, gaming videos run on the internet on a random occasion so the parents must be the one guiding the kids on what they should and should not be in. There are certain restrictions that crypto gambling sites as well as other platforms put into that is stated for 18+ but such can still be boycotted by young minds for their own curious reasoning and that case must be up into the parents to take into control. Over all, the responsibility of restricting what the children would do will entirely be dependent on the parents guidance.

You are right that it is very important to teach your child to avoid problems on their own. And one of these ways can be a negative experience - if a child loses his pocket money in an online casino, then most likely he will not go there anymore. And I see that the majority of young people have an extremely negative attitude towards casinos. Still, now in the information age, few people believe in "easy" money.

If those kids download those games, they will slowly become addicting because I am sure that the games will be attractive, and they will play repeatedly. I am a bit worried if they use their monthly allowance to gamble because that can make them addicting too. There is no other way that we can do except explain to them how dangerous gambling is for kids to think by themselves, and they will not try to play gambling.

Actually it is not Casinos that younger generation got involved these days but local gambling.they tend to play in groups somewhere that no parent will see them.

and they even sometimes create their own gambling just to make money easily.

i admit that i entered casino house late when i was graduated in college but back in secondary?we have lots of gambling games
 and yeah i also once lose all my allowance because of gambling but that did not stopped me from coming back,instead i start selling some
of my knowledge in School just to make money for gambling.

They will not if they have responsible parents who will look at their kids activities online, kids will just play and do whatever they fancy to do, they have no control yet and thinks like e sports betting are part of the game, this is where the parents should come in to supervise and guide the kids on how to react on this things, parents should be aware that everything online are not all good for kids.

Agree, the only solution to this is proper guidance. Betting platforms can't do about it so we should rely on this problem on the parents and besides, it's their responsibility to guide their children to the right path. It's not the gambling platform's fault if many kids are using their platform because how can they discover a betting platform if their mindset is just to play games, maybe they're influenced by the parents and it's not a good thing. They shouldn't blame eSports and the betting platforms, they should be responsible for their kids.

In my opinion I think parents are delegating the upbringing of their kids to the technology around them and that is a mistake, now is more and more common to see kids that are not even three years old make use of smart phones or tablets and in my opinion that is wrong, at that age they do not have developed enough to understand the dangers they are facing online and unrestricted access to the Internet to them is a bad idea and until that is the case we need to protect them from gambling and online predators.

Bottomline, the responsibility is really on their parents.
The discipline and mindset that they ingrain within their kids will be significant even if when they are not around.
As these kids can have access with those sites anytime, it is their upbringing that will guide them whether they are still on track or not.

I cant really took the blame all to the parents yet im a type on whos been always not been guided by my parents but as i aged i do become mature and do able to learn up things on my own with my own will but of course there are still some little bit words from my parents but since theyre busy from their own works then its unlikely for them to monitor on what im doing until i do reach a certain age where i do have grasp on something.

Its up to your own will and decision making as a person or individual when dealing with things.Its up to you if you see it that it would be beneficial or not or
completely can influence you and put you into the other path.

We do have our own decisions in life and it isnt just right that it would all took blame on parenting issues.

Parenting is really hard. A growing person wants to try all things so it is not a surprise if he will venture in gambling at some point of his life. But as he grows older, he will realize things on his own. A parent can only give so much and the rest will be on his own accord. All of us have our own realizations in life, and those will not be influenced by our parents. It is our experience that taught us about life.

It's hard as it is and if the kids are already well-versed with technology especially with technology, computers, smartphones and other gadgets. The chance that they might get into an online casino is high. With the growing esports industry, it's very possible that they may get into it.

This is a big issue, when there's something wrong with the activity that the kids have discovered, it's all in the cargo of the parents. It can be wrong or not to blame the parenting but there's a big part to play for the guidance.

I agree with you, good parenting should be about understanding a subject and its risk involved,ratger than just prohibiting everything without a good reason. There are different levels of gambling and betting and under supervision it's much better to get a feeling for it. There is also a risk that if everything is mir allowed by your parents, that you will try everything at once when turning 18.

The only issue I can see with this is the possible effect of esports for minors to gamble. Most of the systems and gambling sites at this time have good regulation already to avoid this kind of scenario to happen. In addition, minors have their parents to remind and supervise them to avoid gambling.

Though, minors IMO even without gambling sites could already be expose to gambling through the game itself. Most of the games uses credits for skins and usually, good skins comes from the raffle. Thus, exposing them to implicit gambling already.

While this is true and kids each year get access to technologies that did not existed before and the parents struggle to keep up with the times, as long as you teach them from the beginning the dangers of gambling at an early age they should be fine, the real problem as you say begins when they claim their independence and as a parent your influence over your kids gets reduced significantly, but by that time parents are no longer responsible for the actions of their children and can only hope they did a good enough job for them to not fall in any kind of addiction.

But still, the gambling site has a problem to detect their visitor, whether they are kids or they are adult people.
Kids can visit on the gambling site without their parents know what they do, and the kids can play gambling secretly.
That is a job for the parents to watch out their kids before it's too late.
So besides parents need to take care of their kids, they also need to check on the kid's mobile phone to see what game they played.
If the kids want to buy something from the game, we should remind them that they don't have to buy anything.

The skins were so thrilling that many really wants it, but now there are many ways to avail free skin thru FB live and some events in the game still depends on which game. To limit children to gamble too much, parents should only give their enough allowance or monitor their money spendings. It will be hard to control and monitor but still looking on how they spend will teach them how hard it is to earn so they should spend it Wisely.

It is true that it is very difficult for gambling sites to know the real age of the users without KYC procedures. Even some gambling sites
have brought esports in, which I am afraid of children who used to play esports so they can access gambling sites. Moreover, millennials
are now smarter than their parents in terms of technology, so if not supervised and restricted by parents when accessing the internet and
playing games, it allows children to access and play gambling secretly. The role of parents is very vital, usually, as a parent, I accompany
my child when they access the internet, to ensure that my child doesn't access gambling sites.

^ Probably you guys talking on the mobile games which are also had a tournament that also users can place their bet using diamonds that you can buy it only on crypto and or in fiat cash. These kind of games are the most commonly players are kids, they purchase skins on that game for their account and even place a bet to the tournament using probably their parents credit/debit cards. This is not good for them, they need to supervised by their parents and monitor their money where to spend, especially these days that most of them stayed at home and probably looking some interesting events is on internet.

With a lot of teenagers on the internet right now, that would be hard to do. Let's be honest, you could go in a lot of platforms and there is no way that there is no kid in there. Not all of the parents can supervise their children especially those with their own rooms and own PCs they could use. Some of them are even streaming and you could see their behavior is not that appropriate to begin with. And with a lot of people to influence them online, that would make it harder.

I see your point here, and regulators are quite skewed in judging since they can't really blame the parents now can they? Other than that really I don't think there's any solution to Kids accidentally going into gambling. Regulators should most likely just put a limit into it, or the sites themselves that is, so that even if they gamble, at the very least it won't turn into something worse. To prevent new accounts, you can just link the gambling account to the steam account itself (or the game itself on other platforms).

There's a difference between gambling and gambling addiction here. It may be a thin line, yes, but teaching them about that thin line early on could prove to be quite helpful imo. Plus, let's be real here, we gamble ALL the time, not just in games, we do that in everyday decisions, examinations, etc., and making a kid learn about the consequences of something that he leaves on to LUCK should prove to be quite helpful in their upbringing. Teaching someone about gambling doesn't mean you teach him TO gamble, it's ABOUT.

Even if gambling sites use KYC to verify their members, the kids will find other ways to get verified.
They can ask adult people around them to verify the members, and if that person doesn't become aware of that, the kids will have their account verified.
That is what happens if the kids somehow access the gambling site without the parents knows.
Sometimes, the parents don't even know what is about the site, and they just follow what their kids want without searching for other things.
I don't know why kids can smarter than the last 10 years ago, but I realize that the internet helps someone learn something they don't know.

This will only work as long as the kids are small, once they get smarter they could try to hide their activity from you by gambling on other devices or by deleting the history on their browsers, this is why it is not enough to supervise them and forbid them to gamble you need to explain to them why this is a bad idea and let them internalize those facts, if you can do that then the chances they gamble while young will drop dramatically and you will not have to worry about that subject ever again.

Yes, that is the possible issue but on the other hand I don't see why would e sports be a bigger threat to minors than the other types of gambling. Yes, it's hard to control them and today everything is available on much easier way to minors and children than it was to previous generations. That is why prevention is very important and how these children are raised. When something bad happened is very often too late to react.

Because kids right now have easy access on these things. They can play without the knowledge of their parents. But they will learn their lessons in their own way, if parents are not there to guide them. Since parents can't attend their kids 24/7, the kids themselves should be responsible on their actions.

There are different cryptocurrency gambling platform which is supporting the use of betting/wage of e-sports and there many players out there would like to have and a fan of this kind of gambling games, I'm with this too because  I have capabilities and sources about e-sports and I'm a fan of dota2, and csgo gameplay most of the time I make a montage on their team fight which gives me more idea what are the advantage and who are the possible players and teams could win a game. Recently I made a wage with the match of the Team secret on their finals because they have a good record with of 0:3 on most of their matches and this gives you already a hint what are the possible may happen to the next games. And after the match as I predict easy win.

KYC could help to minimize youngsters to go gambling but the fact that not all gambling sites require such a thing, below 18 years old could gamble. They have their phone, laptop/PC, online gambling is very accessible to anyone and sites can't hold them nor to stop youngsters to gamble unless KYC is required. But that is not the case, it probably gambling site owners will allow them, they are making money from it.

These youngters are not that stupid though.

They will find a way to get through that KYC without them showing their age on these sites. They also have an access to the internet that they could use efficiently so they could get informations they wanted to maybe make an account or bypass that KYC. It is not that these gambling sites owners earned from it, it is just that it is hard to filter their users.

KYC does not actually determine that the user betting is the original owner of the documents. How much time do you think a kid needs to capture the ID of his/her parents on their mobile and enter the details on the website to complete verification. There are many other ways to trick the system, moreover these websites are least interested to thoroughly go through the details.

There are many other ways to clear KYC and todays kid are much smarter than we were in our days.

That's mainly because kids at this time are exposed in technology earlier than we are so they are smart enough to get pass the KYC and start gambling especially if it's esports betting. I even know someone who tell his parent that it is for gaming but the truth is it's for doing buying and selling game items but the site ask KYC.

This may hit back on them because many gamblers would move out if KYC get compulsory to sites where no KYC is required. So, no one want to lose their business and also today's kids are very smart they would take somebody else KYC and still play it and no one will know as well. So, this is not the perfect solution. Somebody from their family would have to keep a watch.
 

Of course parents would not be ther 24/7. But it's helpful for the kid to know about how it from the supervision of the parent. Cause you know some kids can do well without someone supervising them but some kids need the supervision of their parents, even though its just a one time talk, it will help the kid be knowledgeable about it. To know what's right from wrong. Kids are kids and they need supervision.


This KYC will never be a solution, years ago I'm just a kid, and I remember fully well when I easily entered sites with KYC with it. It's too easy. And you are right, owners doesn't really want to put KYC, they were just following the rules from the authority to continue their operation. As long as they're earning from the customers, or gaining customers, they don't care what the outcome is to other people.

I do not see this as an issue for the casino in terms of their profits vs investments on putting e-sports on their systems. This decision or strategy of casino is fine, it is actually one of the best strategy to attract even more players. It is a way of marketing where the business is going into what it currently trending. Some casinos aren't requiring KYC because other gamblers also wants to be anonymous.

If you are worried to the kids that are playing on casinos, that's good, but it's the responsibility of their parents/guardians to take them away from gambling because their age are not appropriate to play on gambling sites. It's fine playing online games, but it's not good if they will associate it with gambling.

Indeed, and some of casinos would not want it if they will lose some loyal gamblers to their site in just by implementing the KYC requirement. From my personal standpoint, requiring to fill up the birthdate is working, it is reducing those kids that wants to play on the casino regardless if they are aware that they will use real money or not. If the system found out that they are not in the right age to play casino, then it will automatically disable using real money, not allowing the kid to play there.

This is the thing, a kid that is determined to gamble will always find a way to do it thanks to our current technology and the fact that most likely they are better than their parents on their understanding and usage of it, this is why it is important to explain to them from the beginning why this is a bad thing for them since they are not mature enough to take decision when it comes to their money and that over the long term this will teach them lessons that will not be good for them.

The modern world has grown beyond what reality is, children's now get used to the technology than we the parents. My child has the ability to use any of my device even though she's new to such device. So, such a child needs serious monitoring while online not to go off the riff. Guiding the children mostly when online should be well encourage among parents not to have or raise gamblers addict. Never allow the child surf the internet without parents guide.

But then as a parent you should let children play around it is just that the toys these days are more in technology and we can't monitor then 24/7. We don't wanna have a gambling addict in our family, that's a black sheep that might just ruin the whole family's asset. The best we could do is to teach them what is right and wrong, what has to be done just enough, let them experience things and if something is happening off the track that's the time you should interfere.

This is something parents can't easily do. It's not that easy as kids nowadays are mostly techy.

Instead of monitoring their kid's activity regularly, concerns about gambling can be brought by parents during a talk on their kids, either during breakfast, lunch, dinner, bedtime, or any time of the day.

And E-sports gaming is mostly involved by youth. Therefore, there will always be a time that these kids will play those games and their parents won't know it. So the best thing to do is to include it in the daily discussion between parents and their kids to always remind that playing such games should be treated moderately (don't prevent them from playing these games).

KYC is a slight impediment, its most of all a discouragement to legitimate usage then actually stopping anyone underage gambling.  If they want to they will like alot of things like smoking or drinking, obviously its better to educate then expect to eliminate the idea.   Teach kids maths and probability analysis is a greater help then putting up a sign saying no its adults only, thats almost an encouragement and thats been true probably forever.

I agree that this is simply impossible, we cannot be there supervising everything that  they do and see if they are not doing something wrong like gambling, if we want that kids do not gamble then we need to explain to them why this is a bad idea and why if they want to do it they need to wait until they are of legal age since they are simply too young to understand the consequences of their actions and they may start to gamble thinking it is just another video game not realizing they are losing money in the process.

Kids nowadays tries more to do things that are not allowed for them and knowing how popular esports now, there's really a chance that they will enter into gambling sites due to betting, that's why parents need to guide them in a way of limiting their money or teaching them how to be smarter in betting or to limit themselves since sooner or later if they  really want to they will soon to do it anyway, parental guidance is only needed as their are the one who gives money and sees the activities of their children.

Parenting or Guidance is mainly needed when raising up your children but when the time comes where they do decide things on their own into particular things then
even how strict you are when it comes to monitoring then you cant totally say that you will able to stop them thats why it is really much better if you do explain to them on whats the risk of gambling and the possible unfortunate things that will give out to you if you do let yourself involved with it too much.
For in talks of gambling sites on bringing esports in then this had already been done and of course as a business you will really choose or add up things that
will bring out more revenue knowing that esports is getting bigger as years passed.

Yes it's becoming popular and people are getting panicked to catch those tricky things. By the way, some people are suggesting KYC program for crypto gambling but it won't work a lot to prove legitimate usage. Because we have already seen that KYC program can't verify a person or people often use fake things but system verify them as valid participation. Need proper guidelines and strick monitoring policy like parenting to the children's.

I think that makes kids become smart and seems to know many things than their parents. Their passion for learning something is bigger, and they are still trying to find out by searching in more sources. We don't know if they are playing games only or playing games with the money involve because sometimes, they played with their friends in someplace.

We don't have to guide them to know about betting because that can make them have a big curiosity. And if that happens, they will try to learn more about betting, and in the end, they can become addicted to betting. We'd better advise them about the danger of playing gambling, and we always remind them not even to try to gamble with their friends.

In my opinion a more troubling tendency for those that are worried about kids gambling are loot boxes, for years games have included random elements in which you could gamble with the currency of the game to obtain more of it or exclusive items and that was fine, but then loot boxes appeared and you could purchase them with real money and you had no way to know if you will get what you want, that is a form of gambling which is why several countries are now trying to regulate the practice, but still I am sure some unscrupulous developers will find their way around those new laws.

You cant run away from the reality that sooner or later, kids will interact with gambling website. It is hard to avoid this. The internet gives us so much power and the ability to do anything we want. Therefore, you cant expect a kid to understand what is good and what is bad for himself. Why dont you just think of a good side which has been providing by the internet for years since it has been created

Regulations can be made so as to stop online casinos from operating arbitrarily. However, I believe that education is more important than any other factor. If a kid is not well-educated, he will soon become addicted to gambling or some sorts of irresistible illegal activities.

This has also raise a concern in my mind. How decentralized are bitcoin and other digital assets in this moment when every websites using them requires users to provide their ID. KYC is good to prevent criminals and underage gamblers. But on the other hand, it is ruining the decentralization of the blockchain. People willing to show their identity for faster and more convenient services. This will make use weaker and vulnerable to the authorities and whoever are holding their private data

The parent and the business share the responsibility in prohibiting minors into gambling sites. I wouldn't worry that much when it comes to crypto gambling sites, the chances that a child would go to a pornsite is higher than the chances of going to a cryptogambling sites. Besides the fact that there are more things that you need to do before you can play, a child with low attention span will be bored filling those necessary requirements. If it ever comes to worst, I think the fault falls into the parents of the child.

dont worry mate because even not in gambling sites teens or youngsters now are betting against their friends or someone they are playing with.
so with this proves that it is not a Gambling sites concerns who will bet in eSports because the truth is ?gambling is happening around their world(the Younger generation)
but at least it is good that you mentioned these issues so parents must be aware and may restrict their children from playing those games that can be involved betting.

Since crypto gambling sites do not have KYC, it is very easy for underage kid to access crypto gambling sites. So it doesn't matter
whether the gambling sites bring esports in or not, still underage kid can play gambling online. This is a serious problem where an
effective solution must be found to prevent underage kid from playing online gambling. For the time being, it is necessary to have
supervision from parents of their children, especially when accessing the internet. But most of the younger generation today are
smarter than their parents when it comes to technology. Therefore, parents must learn technological developments as well, so as not
to be left far from their children.

If the youngsters don't know about the betting, they will use the other way to gamble. I know some young people watch football in one of their houses, and they gamble for who will be the winner. It is fun to gamble with each other while we can gather in one place and hang around and talk to each other about the game.
The gambling sites will be like that, but some people will change, and even young people will try to gamble because they will know that playing gambling is fun.

I am hands on about bringing the children in ourfamily to growing thats why even the Online games they are engaging must be in my knwoledge.
So in any way they will never be involved in young age gambling specially eSports when this is really in every sides of the community.
lucky in our family the children are really trusting the decision of elders and they have no chance to be in wrong ways.
KYC can be faked that's why i don't trust them for the age limit in making bets in gambling sites.
It is our own diligence for what will happen to our young.

The way you bring your children up that matter in crypto gambling. All my children have ideas in all different sports Local and international sports. Most of my children are doing well with the idea I gave to them concerning crypto gambling that too me so much time and energy to make them  understand all types of games, Local and international sports.
I guess is a good thing to bringing sports issue into families which it can bring more development to the family and  young ones  will have ideas in sports.

The thing is that e-sports is massively popular among children and when they see an opportunity to bet on it that makes them vulnerable to that. I mean a kid watching tennis would not be as tempted to bet on it as he would be in a game which he plays himself and then see watches his favorite players playing and having a chance to bet on it.

Sportsbooks are always going to welcome such kids because let's be honest these sportsbooks are made to juice out as much money possible and if they see a option to attract even more gamblers if even they are kids they will always add such games and bring that audience and if one sportsbook doesn't the other will so it is impossible to expect gambling sites to show ethics.

its not a joke to teach all the sports and you also include local and international .

 no wonder why your complaining for the efforts that you gave but atleast all are worth it because your kids are now equiped with knowledge that they can use to do whats right  .

 solving issue gives you a bonding to your kids and they are lucky to have an ubderstandable parent like you because parent usually are busy and no time to bond with thier kids .

It is inevitable that kids will come across a gambling website which is why their parents need to explain to their kids that gambling at their age is simply wrong and whether the opportunity presents itself online by surfing the web or it comes on their everyday lives from their friends they need to refuse because they do not have the mental maturity to take responsible decisions when it comes to their money and what is best for them, however this can be difficult if the parents are absent from the life of their kids as it is happening more commonly all over the world as people dedicate more time to social media than their own family.

Underage persons have their own right, but it is not a proper time for them to join gambling. Of course, eSports have many younger audiences, we cannot deny the fact as the game is a children's world. As long as the purpose is for fun, it is no really a problem. However, there should be a limit for underage persons, we mustn't let them be early addicts in gambling. IMO, the solution is to let them play with some limitations.

Allowing the underage person to gamble on crypto esport site with some limitation seems to be an unreasonable idea because they will sooner or later abuse it and we see a previous situation of addict among the young people just like before when restriction law was not implemented, as the OP said crypto and the online gambling platform will be blamed for it literally the regulator will step in just how the SEC did when there was a lot of ICO scam.
With that been said, it good that non of all the online gambling Master license operators allow the underage to play on any gambling site.

For Fiat casinos or website/platforms then they can somewhat stop this one yet it does really need verification first before you can proceed but for crypto? Its totally impossible on stopping it
no matter how licensed or legal your platform is but on the way on how you do accept registered players then you wouldnt know on whose the one is minor and which is not.
About bringing e-sports then this had already been available for a while now.E-sports became big already and been included in most sports book which
players or bettors would already have their option to make bets.

What do you mean by letting them play with some limitations?

At first, you said that it is not the proper time for them yet, and underage should not gamble and must not let to be an early addict in gambling. How can we stop them from that addiction, even if they have some limitation, it is still not proper for underage to gamble.

No doubt about the fact that it will be hard to stop minor from gambling on crypto gambling site but in the long run if the minor will be figuring out by the gambling site the moment he wins big or wants to withdraw above $2500 and something like this has happened before on this forum where a minor was accusing the sport of declining him his withdraw whereas he has broken booker rules and regulations.

Exactly.

Most kids are smarter than many people think. If a kid is smart and his parents taught him/her some basic math, he'll understand that trying to make money from gambling is almost always a dead end and a stupid idea.

If a dumb kids decided to gamble however, there is no power to stop him from doing it as long as he have any access to the internet.

It is the duty of parents actually to educate their children not the casinos so I agree with you that with more evolution in technology there will be more and more underage gamblers in the crypto scene. Parents should monitor activity and restrict any such sites and I also wonder how kids will have the money in crypto to bet in first place.

And no matter how many regulations and rules are made to restrict I have seen people selling fake ID proofs and even accounts on various casinos and sportsbooks so it is nearly impossible to stop in-eligible gamblers from gambling but yeah such restrictions can certainly lower the number.

It is just a bad idea, the moment you allow minors to gamble that is when they will do everything they can to find ways against those limitations, it is better to not allow them to do so, after all I could argue that gambling for a minor can be even more dangerous than something like alcohol, after all alcohol has a limit of how much you can consume and as such spend on a single day but when it comes to gambling you could literally lose all your capital on the single roll of a dice so it would damage young people even more quickly than something like alcohol.

It would be difficult to impose sanctions on sites that aren't under the governments jurisdiction I mean the place of the gambling site that has been created.

Hence, the only thing rhat can do with the government to regulate with the gambling site is to ban itnor block the site. This is not really a problem to us since we know how to access it just by using vpn. But as long as the government is concern being careful to visit block sites must be observe not to get caught in it.