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Title: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Charles-Tim on October 14, 2020, 02:28:10 PM https://i.imgur.com/fVfZaQI.jpg
P&O Cruises Australia’s former cruise ship the Pacific Dawn has reportedly found a unique new life as a floating community permanently anchored in the Gulf of Panama. A company called Ocean Builders that is also developing “floating, off-grid seapod homes,” has reported entered into a deal to acquire the once pioneering cruise ship. The ship, which was built in 1991 and operated most of its career with Princess Cruises and P&O Australia, is being sold by P&O’s parent company Carnival Corporation as they work to rationalize their fleet accelerating disposals due to the impact of the pandemic on the cruising. According to Chad Elwartowski, COO of Ocean Builders and a key investor, the company is scheduled to take delivery of the cruise ship on November 4 in the Mediterranean. They are working with Columbia Cruise Services to take care of the management of the operations of the ship which will be renamed Satoshi. the name used for the smallest unit of bitcoin. The crypto cruise ship is named Satoshi after Bitcoin’s (BTC) pseudonymous creator, with Elwartowski claiming the vessel will host restaurants, casinos, medical services and a water park. Satoshi will anchor in the Gulf of Panama, home to many crypto exchanges, and BTC will be accepted for all on-board purchases alongside U.S. dollars. The first 200 of Satoshi’s 777 cabins will be sold via auctions scheduled for Nov. 5 to Nov. 28. The cabins are priced between $25,000 and $50,000. However, buyers must also pay ongoing monthly fees to acquire full ownership of the cabins. The cabins will be sold one deck at a time to give associated entrepreneurs the opportunity to purchase rooms adjacent to one another. https://i.imgur.com/sNIrPBT.jpg https://cointelegraph.com/news/cruise-ship-satoshi-to-house-crypto-companies-and-digital-nomads https://www.maritime-executive.com/article/former-p-o-cruise-ship-slated-to-become-floating-community-off-panama Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Fundamentals Of on October 14, 2020, 02:47:05 PM Every promotion of Bitcoin counts. If a Bitcoin logo on a lollipop wrapper is appreciated then a Bitcoin logo on a cruise ship must be much more appreciated.
This is another great addition to the worldwide marketing of Bitcoin. This especially goes out to the wealthier people out there who can afford to buy cruise ship cabins. I am 100% sure they can also buy a lot of Bitcoins. ;D Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Ucy on October 14, 2020, 03:14:46 PM Interesting.
Looks too centralized and heavy though. I'd prefer some sort of modular platforms with different sizes (from small, medium to large). In my opinion, a good crypto based project should adhere more to the ideals of Bitcoin as risk/uncertainty increase for safety reasons. Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: seoincorporation on October 14, 2020, 03:34:34 PM That's a really nice way to promote bitcoins, and for sure they accept bitcoin for all their services. Is like killing 2 birds with one shot, in one hand they promote bitcoin but on the other had they offer where to spend your coins if you have a nice amount of them.
I love the projext and hope to be able to ride on that ship at least once. Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: TedMosby on October 14, 2020, 03:55:08 PM According to google,
Lamborghini price range $200K - $5M. Cruise ship price range $200M - $400M. So, we should say "WHEN CRUISE SHIP?", instead of "WHEN LAMBO". "The cabins are priced between $25,000 and $50,000" is it the starting price for the auction or the range of the expected price? Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Mandarava on October 14, 2020, 03:55:15 PM Another attempt to attract attention on the wave of growing interest in bitcoin. It is not entirely clear to me why this ship should be renamed to Satoshi. This ship has nothing to do with either the world of crypto technologies or the identity of the creator of bitcoin. Looks like a regular publicity stunt to attract the attention of a new clients.
Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Bttzed03 on October 14, 2020, 04:27:16 PM So this is what a bitcoin whale should be huh? Own a Cruise Ship and name it Satoshi with BTC logo on it.
~ It is not entirely clear to me why this ship should be renamed to Satoshi. This ship has nothing to do with either the world of crypto technologies or the identity of the creator of bitcoin. Looks like a regular publicity stunt to attract the attention of a new clients. I think there's more to it than a publicity stunt. The CEO of Ocean Builders is a bitcoin trader who literally lives on the sea (15 miles off the coast of Thailand). It makes sense to venture in business that's also floating don't you think?You can find more information about the man here (https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/chad-elwartowski/) Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: carter34 on October 14, 2020, 04:31:22 PM I will not look at this with seriousness because the identity of satoshi has been in the daily discussion and taking over the public discuss. This might be another way of gaining attention around the bitcoin. People like to hear the bitcoin news and more will attach themselves to it.
Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: 7788bitcoin on October 14, 2020, 04:34:41 PM With the pandemic i am sure they are having a tough time doing business and they want to attract big players and they know that there are many millionaires in the bitcoin market and they want to attract those wealthy people from what i understand from this situation by changing the name of a cruise ship to Satoshi. I am sure they will be getting business as there are many who wants to support these kind of publicity for bitcoin.
Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Karartma1 on October 14, 2020, 04:38:48 PM A few clueless noobs don't have any idea what they are talking about.
Elwar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554 is a truly respected forum contributor and bitcoin early adopter who deserves a bit of respect. He's clearly putting his money where his mouth is since he is fighting hard to gain his financial sovereignty and freedom. I can't de-merit you, otherwise I would. Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: acroman08 on October 14, 2020, 04:57:15 PM Another attempt to attract attention on the wave of growing interest in bitcoin. It is not entirely clear to me why this ship should be renamed to Satoshi. This ship has nothing to do with either the world of crypto technologies or the identity of the creator of bitcoin. Looks like a regular publicity stunt to attract the attention of a new clients. the ship will be accepting bitcoin on all of the shops that are in the ship. although I get the sentiment you have about the name of the ship but this would be great publicity for bitcoin and not just the company. Looks like a regular publicity stunt to attract the attention of a new clients. and it is good publicity. the company CEO just used a strategy to maximize its publicity which targets people who use bitcoin/cryptocurrency and people who are not.The crypto cruise ship is named Satoshi after Bitcoin’s (BTC) pseudonymous creator, with Elwartowski claiming the vessel will host restaurants, casinos, medical services and a water park. Satoshi will anchor in the Gulf of Panama, home to many crypto exchanges, and BTC will be accepted for all on-board purchases alongside U.S. dollars. Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Bttzed03 on October 14, 2020, 05:25:17 PM A few clueless noobs don't have any idea what they are talking about. Admittedly, I don't have any idea about this man until this news but I went on to search and read who he is before posting. Elwar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554 is a truly respected forum contributor and bitcoin early adopter who deserves a bit of respect. He's clearly putting his money where his mouth is since he is fighting hard to gain his financial sovereignty and freedom. I can't de-merit you, otherwise I would. Don't demerit me ;D Thanks for the profile link btw, I see he's a long time WO Gang. Damn, he's been actively posting about his cruise ship here days before this news. Anyone interested with auction and other details can follow this thread - crypto cruise ship (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281589.msg55365364#msg55365364) Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Karartma1 on October 14, 2020, 05:34:32 PM A few clueless noobs don't have any idea what they are talking about. Admittedly, I don't have any idea about this man until this news but I went on to search and read who he is before posting. Elwar https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554 is a truly respected forum contributor and bitcoin early adopter who deserves a bit of respect. He's clearly putting his money where his mouth is since he is fighting hard to gain his financial sovereignty and freedom. I can't de-merit you, otherwise I would. Don't demerit me ;D Thanks for the profile link btw, I see he's a long time WO Gang. Damn, he's been actively posting about his cruise ship here days before this news. Anyone interested with auction and other details can follow this thread - crypto cruise ship (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281589.msg55365364#msg55365364) He contributed big time here on BTT when bitcoin was considered nothing but nerd's money. Look where he stands now ;) Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: 100bitcoin on October 14, 2020, 06:13:16 PM I had lots of hope regarding https://www.freesociety.com. But this has not been materialized yet. Nice to see that https://ocean.builders is ultimately materializing.
Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: sunsilk on October 14, 2020, 07:09:39 PM What a news! this is very much going to create an adoption and thanks to Elwar, he's sure really making his own steps for bitcoin and the same time make his business matters.
I will not look at this with seriousness because the identity of satoshi has been in the daily discussion and taking over the public discuss. This might be another way of gaining attention around the bitcoin. People like to hear the bitcoin news and more will attach themselves to it. Why look at that side? appreciate what the company has done. It's a cruise ship and that matters. This is a big business and a lot of money has been invested on it, this is a serious matter that you must consider and naming a cruise ship as satoshi - it's huge.Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Artemis3 on October 15, 2020, 12:13:03 AM Well this is a bit better than the other concept of sea stead with a home that can't move very well on its own...
Except they are providing the small cabins for people to live in them permanently. Yes you should in theory do your eating using the ship's restaurants, it should be similar to living in a hotel or rather a building with small apartments? The ship is 30min away from land. Not sure how well that goes for someone who needs or wants to do something not available in the ship. For certain type of lifestyle, say, a non family, single internet focused person, it could be more than adequate. Panama does have a bit more lax laws. At least the famous Nordvpn is headquartered there for that reason; but its not like the USA hasn't bombed Panama before (last time 1989). I guess if the situation ever deteriorates they can always move the ship, assuming its engines are in working condition. For foreigners, living in the tropics even if inside a cruise ship, might be appealing. The weather is essentially perfect all year around, sometimes it rains a bit but that's about it. It never gets cold to worry about winter or heating. Since this ship is (now) registered to a port of Panama, for all intent and purposes, the laws of Panama apply. And I'm guessing this includes immigration law; which shouldn't be terribly problematic for people coming from wealthy countries. Does this sound appealing to you? They do accept bitcoin, but its nor like they reject fiat. Renaming the ship "Satoshi" makes me wonder if they wanted to appeal to bitcoin holders at the last minute? It might be even better to just buy an apartment on land, and you could choose from many other places in the Caribbean, some are even english speaking countries (or French or Dutch if you prefer). Did you know that Barbados is friendlier to Bitcoin than Panama? You can also literally purchase citizenship in Antigua & Barbuda (using Bitcoin!) for USD 200k, or invest 400k and get the citizenship plus (eventually) your money back. I mean its not a bad idea, it might be even better if they actually moved the ship around, like an actual cruiser, around the world. Satoshi is actually just a japanese common name, but its obvious they want to attract bitcoin holders, maybe people wanting to live their gold retirement in the tropics... According to google, Lamborghini price range $200K - $5M. Cruise ship price range $200M - $400M. So, we should say "WHEN CRUISE SHIP?", instead of "WHEN LAMBO". "The cabins are priced between $25,000 and $50,000" is it the starting price for the auction or the range of the expected price? Hmm boat cabin in the tropics, or a Tesla Model 3... Decisions, decisions... Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Darker45 on October 15, 2020, 02:54:42 AM Does this sound appealing to you? They do accept bitcoin, but its nor like they reject fiat. Renaming the ship "Satoshi" makes me wonder if they wanted to appeal to bitcoin holders at the last minute? It sounds very appealing to me if I were a rich man. Well, the owner himself is a very old yet active member of this forum with a 554 UID, a long time trader and a hodler. So I wouldn't think this renaming to Satoshi and the printing of the Bitcoin logo is a last minute decision. If he were able to integrate Bitcoin payments to his wife's women clothing boutique and his very own gadget business way back in 2011 when Bitcoin was still relatively unknown, he must have arrived at the decision to accept Bitcoin very easily in 2020 when Bitcoin has already hit the mainstream.[1] For your other questions, I guess you may raise them directly to Elwar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=554) himself, especially if you are considering owning a cabin there. [1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=23701.msg297723#msg297723 Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Gotumoot on October 15, 2020, 03:01:58 AM This is a great news every publicity counts specially this big one.
I hope that they would give out some discount or any advantage for those who would pay in BTC since people would rather spend their Fiat rather than their Bitcoin. Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: budi691 on October 15, 2020, 02:14:03 PM people who ride cruise ships are definitely rich people, and it's a great idea to promote Bitcoin to rich people around the world, and I hope rich people will buy Bitcoin to use on cruise ships,
and later we all in this forum can enjoy satoshi cruises ;D ;D Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: CarnagexD on October 15, 2020, 03:19:17 PM Okay now let's change the phenomenal phrase " When Lambo?" to " When to ride SatoSHIP?" ;D from reading the news that was out days ago, it is not confirmed yet, it is still a plan for now which will make sense in the future since cryptocurrencies are being in demand now especially for wealth people. If this cruise ship will be a floating community for crypto, all amenities will accept crypto as payment, onboarding pass is encrypted and all you need is phone to ride it then it will definitely become a new dream of all of us!
Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: TedMosby on October 15, 2020, 05:02:33 PM For people who are interested on this cruise ship, you can go to this link
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5281589.0 The CEO of Ocean Builders (Elwar) are there and made his comment to addressed some questions regarding the cabins prices, fees, and more. I will just quote it here, I would like to see them consolidate multiple rooms (if someone was to buy multiple perhaps this could be an option) then the ship would be less crowded. Also, the cost might be down because not everything would be free like a typical cruise ship - you wont eat free all day long for zero cost - yes, they can have the food available but instead you now have to pay for it. They might not do all the room cleaning for free, you might have to do it yourself or pay them. I see it less and less like a cruise ship and a instead like a small floating city idea. Hey guys, yes it will not be so much like your typical cruise. We're even trying to come up with another term than "cruise ship" since it will be stationary. You will need to pay for the things you utilize on the ship (electric, water, food, entertainment, etc.). I agree, it is more like a very small town. Many people think they would get bored quickly but you have to remember that when you are on a cruise, you're not working and you're scrambling to do every little thing during your one week that you can hardly take a break leaving you needing a vacation after your vacation when you get home. But if you're working every day, busy, etc. things will become a lot less boring. As most people were stuck in their apartments for the past 6 months, if they were able to go out and go to a restaurant that would be a step up from the isolation. I like to think of each cabin as your bedroom as suchmoon mentioned. The rest of the ship is your living space. It will likely not be for everyone. That's why we're targeting young folks, perhaps fresh out of college or around there. When I lived in my first apartment it was just big enough for my bed. But I lived next to campus where I spent my day. It is certainly not a 3000 sqft McMansion so we're not targeting people that need that to be happy. My goal is to keep the prices down. We want this ship filled quickly so we can buy our next one while the prices are low. We are likely selling way below what they can go for but we're more enthusiastic about making this work than making big bucks. Every one of the investors could lose the money they put into this and not be too affected. We are in this for the bigger picture. As for the idea of joining 2 or 3 rooms. We're working with the insurance company and will consult with the engineers but I am all for customers buying 2-3 adjoining rooms and opening some walkways. Our main engineer said it mainly depends upon if there is a bulkhead between the rooms, and we need to look into it more but at the very least, a door between rooms should be possible for most cabins. There are already several with that feature. For monthly maintenance fee. That is something I am working with our ship management company, Columbia Cruise Services, to determine the monthly cost to maintain it. They have given me an estimate which is quite high but it is based upon a normal cruise. We are running the numbers and I believe we can get the number down to a reasonable amount so people can live there without needing to be super rich. Part of that monthly maintenance will be covered by the rent we charge for the commercial areas. Bars, restaurants, shops, etc. Again, I want to keep prices down because I want people to live there so if you have to pay $50 for every meal it's not viable. To make up for no kitchens in the rooms we're giving all residents 20% off at the restaurants. This passes some of that cost on to tourists. We'll have each restaurant have buffet options if people want to pay for a meal plan. My wife plans on opening a small Thai restaurant in the food court which will have a few items that would be on the buffet plan which she would be compensated for with her share of the meal plan payments. She would choose some more common foods as "all you can eat" while keeping some specialty/expensive items as optional pay-as-you-go items. The ship is currently in the Mediterranean. Our engineer just left here (Panama) on Friday and will finally be able to board the ship in 2 days after a lot of travel and quarantines. He will stay on until we finish the purchase November 4th, then work with the new crew to sail it here to Panama where it will be anchored. I hope Bitcoin enthusiasts come live on the ship and test out new tech in a micro economy where we can try new things to see how well it works in every day life. Register online, auction begins November 5th. https://ocean.builders/cruiseship Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: DooMAD on October 16, 2020, 03:07:37 PM Looks too centralized and heavy though. I'd prefer some sort of modular platforms with different sizes (from small, medium to large). They tried a floating platform already. It didn't end so well (https://eu.freep.com/story/news/world/2019/04/22/thailand-michigan-seasteader-elwartowski/3536860002/). I suspect they feel a portable vessel, which they can sail away, is far safer, given their experiences. ;) Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: Ayiranorea on October 17, 2020, 11:27:04 AM Now it's the time for promotion. Till date it has grown without much of promotion, but through the word of mouth spread. Now more people have known about bitcoin, and there is massive growth in the demand for bitcoin during the pandemic. Now we can see the slogan bitcoin accepted here, and the logo. Everything contribute to the growth and what we see with the cruise ship company is a large scale enterprise promotion for bitcoin. Probably these companies will be having there investment on bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: masyari on October 17, 2020, 11:30:01 AM Finally we found satoshi in our world. Who would have thought that Satoshi is a ship
Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: glowing10 on October 17, 2020, 11:42:26 AM people who ride cruise ships are definitely rich people, and it's a great idea to promote Bitcoin to rich people around the world, and I hope rich people will buy Bitcoin to use on cruise ships, and later we all in this forum can enjoy satoshi cruises ;D ;D Perfect way to get the Bitcoin promoted among the sea as well. It is nice to see that a ship is being named as Satoshi and also can see that Bitcoin label on the ship. Hope to see many other follow this trend and keep on promoting the bitcoin and its acceptance keep on increasing around the world for better future. Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: STT on October 19, 2020, 02:12:13 AM Hmm boat cabin in the tropics, or a Tesla Model 3... Decisions, decisions... Or to entirely own a long barge in the canals of many countries and have full control of your location and destination. Think I'd prefer full control rather then this apartment type idea but could be ideal for anyone already interested in living in this area. The main thing with the name I'm wondering is that regime especially friendly to crypto and so its relevant, I know Puerto Rico is one place a few crypto whales moved to as it has benefits with taxes. Title: Re: Former P&O Cruise Ship now named 'Satoshi' Post by: sunsilk on October 19, 2020, 05:39:15 AM Elwar just made a thread 2 days ago about suggestions for the payment processor for this project/business. If you guys have any suggestion you can go through the thread he made and suggest what you think suits well for their business.
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