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Bitcoin market become high volatility and unpredictable.
every trader use different skills make the market more complexity and increased risk.
trading need more wisdom and consistency.

At this time you may in these ways:

1. Copy trading (High Risk)
2. Bot trading (Not under control)
3. Trading by yourself (Emotional influence, wasted time)

you may got disappointed in this situation,
But if there have an service just notify for some most opportunity point and use reference in your trading that save a lot of time,
reduce your emotional influence in analysis. and never missed every quotes, make you trading relaxed.

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I don't need any signal provider.

And if there's one strategy that I will be used in trading, I'll stay with the common style through trading alone with my control. It's very effective on my end and I don't have to follow any other's advice although I listen and collect information that I see which will make the market possibly moved.

Copy trading is popular in etoro but I've heard that this isn't that effective, in the long term somehow it is but not for me.

Well we have our own kind of style and strategic plan when it comes to trading. We develop those skills and techniques while we are on our way in trading, realisations of what we should do, or when we were going to trade. I guess what have been emphasized by this thread was a sole experience in trading of our co member sharing its experiences, its realisation about its own trading experience. It was all depend upon us if we will adopt  those.

To be honest, I do not feel disappointed with the current situation because I know that it is what will happen to the crypto market. The crypto market will always fluctuate, and the price will always change every day. I already prepare myself for any situations that can happen with the market, and I don't expect too much right now. I only want to trade and try to profit in any situation, and I think I can analyze the market and make a profit, even for a small profit.

I make trading simple for me, and I don't chase the bigger profit if I think I can't get it right now. I prefer to keep trading and still hope that one day, the crypto market will rise again. If I get a trading signal from other people, I will not just use it to buy and sell the coin, but I will analyze more to find out if I can use that signal or I don't need it because we need to make our own plan to make a profit.

Some said copy trading and bot trading is somehow effecient in acquiring profits. But I still prefer self trading. Yeah, there's agreat emotional influence but it is all the matter of "emotional control and management".  And about that signal group you have mentioned, I've tried joining paid signal service and was just disappointed. If you are able to read technical/fundamental analysis by yourself, joining from those signal groups is not really necessarily.

This your idea is not something new, it's just like what's being done on telegram by most people; there are lots of signal groups on telegram that alerts traders on when to place trades, unless yours is going to be something different, maybe there wouldn't be any such thing as loss? Which to me is not going to be possible, because no one can be accurate at all times, there are times you're still going to be making wrong analysis, no matter how good you may seem to be in technical analysis and trading.

As for that copy trading: the platforms I know that offer this service/feature will list all the professional traders on their website and you will check their portfolio and see how good they are before you start copying them.

I've been wanting to try that copy trading. But still have some questions about it. How much is the probability of it to lose. Let's say in 10 trades how many on that will lose.
I'm also looking for suggestion on what's the best platform for that and is there a minimum amount of investment.

Then you left with no choice but to go in safer ways of trading / investing your money.

For example you can try for stable-coins and more recently uniswap. In the former one you can just safely buy these coins and get upto 6% of interests paid out to you. This is more or less like putting your money into the bank like fixed deposits. However in this case you get more liquidity and trusted income. Also it is unknown income as well. In the later one you can do the liquidation of your funds by trading your money for different coins at different rates.

Trading is bigger game. You need lots of study and tremendous luck to hit that particular jackpot. So yeah always try different way outs.

Yeah.

It's all about the experience that we have as we trade. And if those strategies that we have made along our trading career seem to be effective then it's okay to share it. It's just base in my opinion and I think that it's better if I should stay with that strategy because it works great for me.

The moment you start buying into the idea of receiving signals, you begin to rely on them and get distracted from working on your own trading strategy. With signals you gain nothing when the trades goes against you. The fact is they can't be right all the time so obviously the signals providers will get some trades wrong.

In such situations, you the signal receiver losing in both experience and funds, that's you lose the opportunity of learning from your mistake but assuming you used your personal trading strategy, it would had given you the opportunity of working to improve on your strategy.

Bot trading is more recommended provided the bots adhere to your comma and not trading based on the strategy coded into the system by the bot developers, if this was what you were referring to than they're no different to relying on signals providers which I don't support.

As a trader conceiving a dependability on signals is a very wrong step towards trading. Just that single idea of trying to prevent yourself from loosing on trades, you've already started loosing by depending on signals and I'll tell you why.

You have no idea of the signalers account size, the exert time the signaler enters the market, with what lot size he or she enters with, when he or she exists the market should the trades kick against them or goes into a consolidation. These are both a few where trading on signals can have adverse effect on a trader depending on signals. Not that signals could be wrong, you should have a means of verifying every received signal before you place trades on them so, you can be satisfied on both grounds being the signaler and yours.

As a trader, you should be grounded in risk management and analysis. Combine them indicators and know the direction of the market. It helps a lot.

I still want to trade by myself rather than use a signal provider for my trades. And I think some services like that have a fee. Instead of paying these signal provider services, I will use this amount in my trading account. I'd rather lose any amount in my own mistakes in trading than dependent on this service.

I sometimes make the use of distill browser extension to webscrape traders on binance futures who are sharing their trades, study the TA and modify to apply my trades. Not 100% effective but at least better than when I depended fully on signals, it was quite exhausting. There was no set time for signal alert, I always missed good entry points by the time I set my trade and was always checking my phone for signal alerts.

I like the third way, everything is decided by myself, it's not only emotions, time but also my own predictions, trading without confidence shouldn't be traded. Many people may need bot or signal provider, but cost and efficiency should be considered.

All that the author of the post wrote about, says for me personally only that trade is an area in which amateurs have no place. If you want to start trading, start doing it under the guidance of an experienced professional, so as not to join the ranks of those who have lost all their savings on this later.

Im using my own and I don't think a trader really needed a signal provider , every trader of course have different skills in trading or the startegy they use. Im haply of what Im doing in trading because I earn money and maybe when I change and use that signal I lose money I know how is suitable for me and for sure people get also they have . My own Ideas , techniques and even when to check the chart even without signal provider or help of the group.

As I trade, I keep on learning and learning even if I made mistakes because that's what keeps me on doing better day by day.

We have different skills, strategies, and discipline so we need to work on it no matter what happens if we really want to grow our assets in the market.

Technical Analysis is what really helped me a lot whenever I trade because it gives me a lot of sign when to trade depending on the market situation. Sometimes you need to look for something that will enhance your effectiveness in trading, especially that cryptocurrencies are volatile in the market.

The most important thing in trading is skill it's impossible to trade without knowledge and skills about trading skills also as trading strategies got to be followed trading must be viewed from a business perspective. As a business has income and expenses trading income is profit and expense is loss we must maximize our profits and minimize our losses if you discover that this has not been the case for a few time then you would like to vary the way you're trading.

I consider that trading by myself is not wasting my time. Even I always happy to make many analyst everyday and I don't get tired of doing that over and over. Many things that I learn everyday in any market condition and it is good for me.

I just compare when I take a trading signal it can be useless to me. I can't stand by myself and maybe I'll never make money when I just rely on it. Also, I will not do anything when I got lost from the signal, it will be different when I use my own strategy if I got lost I'll find the reason why I got lost and it can make as a learning for my trading plan in the future.

Signal group is also high risk . I though you will teach how to analyze the market but you are offering a signal group which members I'd  following your prediction, it is the same as copy trade. They need to also paid before they will notify for the signal which is mostly use only to earn money not to help traders.

If you are newbie in trading don't follow his suggestion its better to learn by your own and know how to handle  risk management, than following signal. there are many people already lost a lot with that.

I agree, signal trading now is not so reliable, I had join many signal group in telegram but none of them is real, I mean they will only let people to invest in some shitcoins maybe they are part of the devs of it, and then they will leave the group. In trading we need a deeper understanding in everything so that we can be able to analyze market growth and everything.

There's nothing wrong if you will use a trading signal provider if you can afford the paid membership on it.  Yeah, it's a waste of time for others but there are some traders who still using it due to lack of time of having their own research and also an automated trading tool that monitors their trading activity when they are away from the keyboard.  Because not all traders are can able to do their own analysis such as fundamental and technical analysis.

We had different strategies in trading, if you preferred to trade on your own, that's good for you.  But the best is the experience in trading will make your skills sharpen in trading and become profitable or even professional in trading.

There are many mistakes on this, to begin with bot trading is under your control, especially if you code your own bot the bot will do exactly what you want it to do, trading by yourself is a necessity before hiring the services of anyone as if you do not know anything about trading then how is it possible to tell if the person offering services is any good, and finally while copying the trades of others is a bad idea that is basically the service you are offering by giving these signals, so you are basically disqualifying yourself in the process.

Most of them are just a pumped and dumped group so it's   big no to relied with them, instead better to deal this out with your own understanding and capabilities.

Signal groups is for those who knows how to ride people who really can handle the risk, as the intention is to quickly grab your profits when you still have the opportunities

But always not to take the risk out of the equations, most of the time you'll
end up losing your money as you'll be trapped within the shit projects that you bought.

Absolutely, no thanks.  ;D

I've been approached by signal providers in Telegram before and all I can say is it's like a pyramid scam.
They provide insights on what to trade (buy or sell) but behind it is them also.  ;)
Well, luckily I have not been with them for a long time saving my hard-earned money for something better.
I am not saying every signal provider have the same goal, just please be careful for those who want to try it.

Sounds right to me. Don't let your thoughts controlled by others. Build up a framework that works for you, continue working your arrangement and rules. Start small with solid projects. Bitcoin should be number one in your buy list. This is how I trade, happy with little gains on a small account.

You can try to do that, but it's not something that you can relay on every time! Usually it's totally opposite, it's hard and harder, but in some moments it's going easy like you are born for that, in that moments you think how you can make millions from trading, but hard times gets you!
It's trading, it's risk! You can calculate risk, but not to that point to avoid it all the time! So there's risk and there's you and your decision to take that risk or not! Don't make drama out of that, don't overthink it, do your own research and believe in that!

You are just obviously trying to shill out
https://tradwra.com

How you havent included this on the list below that you had mentioned?
Depending your trades on signal provider? its just the same with copy trades.



1. Not preferable
2. Needs knowledge to control
3. Much better option and its not a waste of time. Gain everything while you do deal with it.

Unfortunately signal trading is not the way to go if you want to be a good trader. Someone keeps telling you "buy this at this price" or "sell this at this price now" and you keep doing that, how could that make you a good trader?

It won't help you get better at all, and that is just the start of things, if you are not a good trader you won't understand who picks what and for which reasons, and you would also never understand looking at things yourself, if you ever see a great opportunity to buy something you would probably not even realize you are looking at a great opportunity neither so at the end of the deal you should be learning to read signals yourself. Plus all people call signals are just some indicators hitting and that's it, not really a huge difference than copy trading.

I've tried to joined before copy and paid signals well the outcome for me is not good although there are some trades that you can earned but not all the time. We all know that market is always volatile and when we do trades we expect the trend is not always in favor on us. I don't expect that if I trade on my own I can earn profit right away. Above option, I prefer doing trade by yourself and it is not a waste of time, rather it is very helpful that you do on your own and the experience is worth it.

Yes. It would be more self satisfying if we learn to trade on our own based from our own experiences in the past. Although we always commit mistakes but it's a good sign to keep us motivated the next time around. There may be paid trading signals around but it won't give us an assurance that we can easily make profits knowing the market is very much volatile.

1. Copy trading is not a good idea because what good to others may harm you when you follow them so have your own knowledge and trade using your own formula.

2. BOT trading is good if you know how to use indicators and of course you have to pay the membership fee which I can suggest GunBot, this is good if you already have experience on trading.

3. Trading by yourself is not a waste of time, this is more effective and profitable, trading by yourself means you have the confidence to make money on your own and you really know how to the trading works, this is a must for every trader.

Let's make trading easy? If that so, then all signals subscribers must be reached by now.

Setting aside the legitimacy of your service, following signals might have resulted in more losses instead.

The market is unpredictable. Don't treat and consider trading as easy just to gather people.

Signal in trading is too risky because they can give you a false signal and if you are too careless on trading, you'll lose money for sure so it doesn't make trading easy.

In reality, trading is not easy because you have to do your best always and make a lot of sacrifices in order for you to learn trading, this is not easy but the moment you learn how to trade I'm sure its all worth it. Motivation, sacrifices this is what you need on your first step in trading.

Is this really helping a trader to learn and give them assurance?
I'll go in trading without relying on someone nor that kind of service. I'll make my decision and definitely, I rely on it on what is the result.

What you are trying to say that you and your team wanted to make trading a very simplified way which is absolutely not a case to happen. People who think that way has no chance to succeed but just a failure. People might be right saying there is no wrong asking for help but the point is that, you are not learning anymore if you keep relying on others and work for you on behalf.

unfortunately i am not man that interested with signal or copy trade. i will totally learn all about market when i am decided to invest in finance market. i will start from learning technical and fundamental and other knowledge that rellated. for me , all decision totally in my hand . i dont want give any risk to other people , moreover its about money.

Don't equate everyone's trading method, because everyone must have a different trading strategy. For me, I don't need to copy trades,
trading bots, and signal providers. All I need in trading are just a few applications to read trading charts and the latest news about the
crypto world, so I can analyze the market to be able to determine the buying and selling prices. After that I did manual trading, because
I like trading things that are simple and not complicated.

I am inclined towards trading manually too, I like  taking trading decisions and predictions based on my intuition disliked taking any signals or input from other sources to a avoid unnecessary contradictions, I trade with higher timeframe 4HRS or Daily thus giving me to do my analysis within the shortest period of time, I wouldn't have time to monitor paid signal alerts and I am not a fan of Bot or EA.

I really need fund and holistic approach when it comes to buy and sell. I have funds right now but it is not enough for me to be a full time trader. I just scalp and swing everytime I confront my PC. i want to add my experiences as well in trading. Most of the time, I gather some stories I learned in youtube tutorial just to incorporate it in my trades. I believe that even we have a lot of strategies to be used and our mindset is clear, if we don't have enough fund. Its useless.

I don't think trading by ourselves will be wasting our time because as long as we can have the skills to analyze the coin, we can get the right coin to trade. If you don't have trading skills, you can feel confused about selecting the coin because there are so many coins that seem profitable in the short, medium, and long term. You don't have to depend on the trading group signal because we don't know if they can provide the right signal or copy-paste from other groups and claim that the signal is from them.

If you feel that your skills are not good to trade, maybe you need to learn more about trading, especially to analyze the chart to find the time to enter the market. If you can have the skills to analyze, you will have a chance to trade bitcoin and altcoin, and you can make a profit with many coins. If you think that you want to try to use the trading group signal, you need to be careful after you got the signal, and you need to try to analyze for a while to find more signs.

Just like many have mentioned already before me, the best form of trading is trading by oneself. That way your losses and profits are dependent on how efficient you are.
I wouldn't advise copy trading. It isn't as effective as supposed and it involves high risk. Bot trading as mentioned by OP isn't under one's control and can be risky as well.
However, I also would not advise trading waiting for signals from a signal provider. One wouldn't be able to trade at one's pace and will be waiting for signals which most likely would not come at a particular time.

Everyone's trading style is different when it involves trading trading together with your own intellect is a smaller amount risky. Also the trading strategy will protect the downside of the business plan your business strategy in such how that there's no scope for unlimited losses. there'll be two gains and losses in trading so you've got to require losses from time to time and therefore the reasons for that ought to be analyzed. Your losses should be analyzed and in fact this factor should be taken into consideration within the trading strategy this is often how I follow the trading strategy.

I have tried various ways to be successful in trading, but only manual trading by ourselves has been effective so far.
It is true that manual trading wastes a lot of time and requires more effort, but if the results are satisfactory, I will
not be a problem. Because the experience of trading using copy trading and trading bots only depleted my capital.

It's up to one's strategy anyway. Some would prefer a bot so that they would trade systematically, while trading by purely yourself has freedom of your own choice. Don't want to sell or buy? You can do it with your own decision.
When I traded before, I didn't use a bot. Just me.

Side note: OP's kinda just promoting his own site.

Yeah, you’re right, but he’s just trying to promote his business I guess. Signal providers can never be right at all times, even you yourself, if you decide to be doing it by yourself you’re still going to be wrong at times. There is nothing wrong with making use of signal providers, it’s all about how professional they are and whether they are going to be reliable.

If you will be able to get a reliable source to be getting signals for trading, then you wouldn’t be running into much trouble. Then as for working on your skills and being independent, if you can do that too, it would be a good idea, but people find it difficult to develop their skills in technical analysis.

It would work for someone who has no idea how to trade and busy doing something else but for someone who wants control over the money they spend, I don't think they want trading signals because they already have learned how to read charts.

I haven't tried really getting some signals to trade. But if you are like the ones who just say "buy now and sell now" as a signal provider I probably just ignore you as signal provider.  Its much convincing if you have inside information including the fundamental news from big investment updates.

Copy trading and trading bots will indeed drain capital when the Bot is an error or the trading copy is wrong in predicting. But that's not all the impact, trading using a phak platform when it makes us dependent and not learning how to become a trader, we will never know the euphoria when trading, doing TA and FA analysis. We won't go anywhere just relying on bots and copy trading.

Trading manually or independently will have a more positive impact, even though a lot of time is wasted doing analysis, but that's the art of trading, it can't be achieved in an instant way.

I've come up to think like this, "if others can do, I can make it also". Trading is not an easy task but wondering why there are a lot of people would like to trade and some some of them had succeed. They don't have that signals before and most likely they are manual trading system but they even survive and become successful. 

Why we should have to rely others if those traders before us don't have, in fact, it all just the same, strategies are still the same? Could be the reason why they surpass such struggles is that because they have passion in trading, they never think about quitting, instead, they keep themselves hunger to learn, find a way to improve their trades without the help of others (3rd parties, trading signals, and etc..), and finally, they achieve what they aim for.

Im not into the use of trading bots and copy trading even there are a lot of people told me to use this, because for me I don't trust anyone I just trust myself. Also right now there are a lot of sources right there on the internet so don't worry if for information but how about having mistakes? this is part of the life you cannot learn if you didn't make a mistake also nobodies perfect. One thing too don't hesitate to ask other people just to have enlightened you for a mean time about the things you encounter.



this is the problem to the people today because they think with the use of the copy trading they can now easily earn money somehow there is a statement yes they really can earn but what if the man they followed made a mistake so they cannot blame them because they are being dependent on other people. There are a lot of pool of knowledge right there all you need is to swim and find what you want and not just stay at the side waiting for blessings.

I too like the third way of trading,
That's listen to your heart, your emotions.
But this too doesn't mean that i will go and blankly buy any coins.
Before buying anything we should must do a clean Research on whether you should invest or not, and if everything works fine, then go with full enthusiasm and energy.
These are the things that really help me while trading and yes this may vary from person to person.

Same way too, even it takes more time but the success rates is much higher then I'll go with it.

It's wise to work with your own research and your own ways of trading, strategy can be learned along the way, it's just a matter of how you take your risk and how you position yourself, there's patterns that you can follow it will helps you anticipating the next trends.
At the end of the day, traders are just looking for advancement and opportunities whatever path they've tried to take.

no need for any signal provider, Copy trading is popular in  but isn't  effective
The crypto market will always fluctuate, and the price will always change every day
Bitcoin is the most trusted platform for trading

Of course being able to trade for yourself without any outside help would be the greatest start you could have, not like many people would get that very quickly, but you could potentially have a start for it and that is where the real money starts trickling down. When you have only 1k dollars invested and barely make 20% a year you get 200 dollars, but if you keep that up for 20 years you are getting closer to retirement, this is not a get rich overnight system, this is a retire early system which is what you should focus on.

Do not worry about losses you could make along the way, you could lose some of that and I would say you could regain that just as quickly too if you know what you are doing. So my suggestion is to get started, make a little now, and try to be consistent about it.

Of course once you involved yourself here in cryptocurrency there are only two ways for us to earn, the first one is you need to invest to buy coin depending on which one do you like. And you shouldn't rely on copy trading because it is still much better to have your own way to make trade to earn here in cryptocurrency.

Bot trading is high risk, you firstly need to subscribe to the bot, never tried any trading bots but I heard these bots are not that profitable, maybe in the long run if you found a really good trading bot.
I heard about bitcoin revolution, but I never had the confirmation if this bot is legitimate bot, but based on the testimonies, they are.
Again I'm not sure, and never confirmed it myself.

Still, the best to do for trading is to self trade, invest on your own knowledge, so you won't be needing any bots, signals or any services just to take profit from trading (profit, still not guaranteed).

Indeed. You don't need to copy and rely on one person's strategy in trading because it is much better if you will make and discover your strategy and plan to see how fun and worth it trading. Trading independently is not easy because you first need to control your emotions for you to make the right decisions or make a successful trade. But once you get the hang of it, you will realize that trading on cryptocurrencies is not that hard.

I understand peoples approach towards bots, I have used them, I have used a lot of them and if someone tells me they love it I would get it, if someone tells me they hate it I would get it, even would understand not wanting to use as well, they are really all over the place.

For example there are moments when one bot makes you 10% profit in a month while other one loses you money, you assume that other bot is better because of this, you keep using that bot and close the other one and suddenly people who use the other one profits while you end up losing money with the one that made you profit before. So, bots are unpredictable and only do what you tell them to do, like a slave that works 7/24 hence why I think it all depends on the person and the market situation.

I want to run my own business. I learn from my mistakes. And I can comfort myself by forgetting myself. so I like the third way. I still want to trade myself without using any signal provider for my business. I am able to improve my business in stages.

For me, doing the analysis correctly is what I need right now for trading, because I don't trust other people signals and trading bots.
After all, if we do the analysis ourselves, will make our trading knowledge and skills increase by itself. I also need to increase my trading
practice, in order to improve my experience in the trading world.

Bot trading is not reliable, I prefer to trade with my own trading plans. There are many ways to turn losing trades into winning one and finding the perfect tools has common things. Some traders prefer to trade with arbitrage bots but the volatile crypto markets can destroy the winnings during a month in a day. Trading based on signals from random trading groups can turn into the dangerous games on social media because the signal group admins usually edit the trading call in case of loss. Paying money for both signal and loss sounds ridiculous, must be avoided at all costs unless it has been proven by pro traders.

I think all the methods you have listed there carries the same level of risk. Copy trading is risky , yes, and same is bot trading. Bot trading is not any less risky, if you are using the wrong bot or you don’t know how to set up the not in the right way, you will end up losing your money.

So there is risk, and 90% of the bots I have seen usually don’t make any sense, even the good ones needs to be properly set up. Copy trading is even good and I would prefer copy trading to bot trading. When it comes to copy trading you will have to go through the portfolio of the professional traders you want to copy, and choose the ones with the best performance. So, it’s even better.

With both copy trading and bot based trading, you are risking your capital with someone's knowledge. I am not seeing big differences between copy trading and bot trading. Copy trading may go for different strategy of trades when the source-trader switches strategies whereas bot in pre-defined set of trading instructions until you update the version.

If you consider generating your own signal as waste of time then trading is not for you.

When there will be an external resource which can be free or paid services to confirm our trading signals or to get start with crypto trading, why should we miss that. I mean you must focus on generating your own trading signal but at the same time, if you are getting third party signals then you may cross check your own signal with it and then you may go for trading with more confident.

Joining paid signal services could be just a waste of money if you think you can do it by yourself.
Just like you, I am not a fan of copy trading and bot trading because I heard the news that copy trading isn't that effective while I just really don't trust bot trading. I prefer to trade by myself knowing that I have enough knowledge and experience this would be enough to reduce the risk and earn through my own TA. However, emotion is a really great factor in making your own trade this could bring loss or better results.

You're right mate, those who tend to go after premium signals don't actually know the danger therein becasue most of these signals aren't good as we see them. Personally i have been a victim of this and almost lost my funds in the process, but, be able to analyze the market to get the accurate signal is the best and profitable. What i see in trade is, learning the skills and going practicals is the best approach to trade.

In other markets at least you know you are actually receiving signals and the owners of the signal group are not trading against you and trying to exploit you that way, but in this market I have yet to see a single signal group that is not a pump and dump group in disguise, so anyone that is interested in the markets need to learn how to trade by themselves otherwise just do not trade and be happy by just holding your coins and wait until bitcoin enters in a new bull market.

It will also be bad practice to rely on others for your trades. It seems like you are passing the responsibility of handling your funds to other people. Remember that it is your money and it is your responsibility. If you are a beginner of course there would be losses and it is inevitable. Even experts lose some trades. Although, It would not hurt to ask for some insight and opinions for your trades but don't just rely too much. It would be better if you will develop your individual skill.

Waste time and waste much money for joining paid signal group service because they always give late information when entry to some coin, I ever faced the moment like this when coin have break out more than 40% they give an information for entering, but what happen next we have late for buying coin because have touch higher price and then the owner of signal paid group sell their coin, repeat always the signal like this not only for spot trading but also future trading have the same cases, always late giving signal to entry short or long in future or spot market.

When you are dealing with something as severely risky as trading, you do not really need anything but luck because without luck you can't achieve anything. A coin could have charts that read profit and could show all the indicators, all the details, everything looks 100% perfect for a big jump and it could dump 50% by a huge whale who just wanted to get out right at the moment you buy.

That is why luck is the thing you need most in crypto trading, of course luck is the thing you need in real life as well, not like crypto is not real life but I meant the physical world. Which is why I highly suggest that if you could do all the study, all the research and all the data collection you could possibly do and still end up losing, do not be worried, it is trading and those things happen.

There are many things I need to make my trade successful:
1) Research: I don't joke with any time am trading my coins I always listen to the result I got from my research.
2) Change: I don't too be in a hurry to release my goods without I no check the condition of the market if it has change for my good.
3) Quality: I prefer to supply quality project than fake that will reduce my trade to low level if people get to know I deal with fake goods.

All these signals and technical stuff will be useless if you use them without any trading strategy. Besides, you can never become a successful trader until you get enough knowledge about the crypto market and make some trading mistakes (they also work for you).

In general, you are preparing yourself for a big fight. However, it is not only about having enough knowledge but most important is to have skills, make trained yourself help you to improve your trading capabilities. We can't ever be successful at first but having such a losing experience will give us a reason to think of a better and effective strategy.

Don't keep yourselves contented enough with what you have now, continue reading, searching, and collecting ideas from an expert will help you more to build better trading strategies. Yeah, it certainly takes a while before it guarantees that we are fully equipped but you can see positive results from this.

trading skills is not learned overnight. it is the accumulation of years and years in the market, gaining tips and tricks along the way. everyday is a new day to learn things. thats right, if you feel you have all the info that you need to battle this game, youre wrong. the market is changing and so are the factors involved. you need to be updated whats happening, else you will be left behind!

Yes i need to trade because i earn some money from trade. And cost this money in my real life. I know trading is high risky but i think if you have knowledge about alt coin you can earn.

I don't think I really need something like that it's true that in personal trades it may affect your trading with your emotion that's why it needs a lot of practice and experience in doing trading if you've managed to practice it and become a professional trader your analysis or statistics would best matter than your emotion.

Thanks for sharing such a great information friend. I have been trading on my own for a month and have so many losses. I wish I will get a good profit following the signals provided on that website.

I suggest you not to focus on making money, but the first thing you do is to make a habit of reading. Just be careful in choosing altcoins to trade, not all of them are worth that much which might only give you losses. Why have to choose Altcoins, instead of Bitcoin? Because if we take a look at their market performance, we can say that using Bitcoin in trading is potentially profitable.

Anyway, we all have different choices and it doesn't matter if we use Bitcoin or Altcoins but the most important is we are able to reach our goal.

I think copy trading is very low risk as compared to own trading. Because you copy trade what an expert in trading does so you are paying a fee to them. It's more like brokers who recommends when to buy and sell. If one is new to trading and needs to learn more on it, they should practice copy trading and learn more on it instead of just putting money on predictions!

Yeah, there is a group of people who need a provider signal as you mentioned in the thread to save more time in trading and may be more practical because it does not spend much time analyzing coins and the state of the market.

But from experience that already using signal trading without analysis turns out to be ineffective because the signal given is not all accurate. So if to use a trading signal, we have to have our own analysis in trading because a trader still has to have skills in trading. That’s absolute.

Using trading signals is a road to nowhere. You need to learn trading yourself and have your own good trading system. This is a difficult path, but the only true one. Experience comes over the years, there is no need to rush. This is the only way to become an elite trader 8)

Trading signals can be considered as the initial point, because we don't get to see which cryptocurrency is moving high and low. Once we get to know about particular coin, we need to do our own analysis and make our further move. Here we need to be careful, because certain coins were under bot trading where we cannot do complete our trade. As said it is good to master ourself than depending on other services and signals.

I won't trust site for trading signals as well even those free or paid trading signal groups.
It will bring you to much more losses. Maybe if you do really want to try following them, just follow those free groups first.
And check out if it will really give you advantage in trading.
But better learn trading on your own. Start small and study also the coin you want to trade with.
You can get hints from their social media channels on what's going on with their platform.
Along the way, you will gain tips and strategies that you can use in other coins.

Trading and a job where you should always be up to date on every price rise and fall etc. Technical charts, tables, updated news, etc. should be at hand which will help you to identify the market trends. Take a good look at the situation where you don't want to be in a situation where your trading instrument can't be completed due to some delay in the equipment of your business and because it is getting old it is very important for trading to use the latest updated technology with your own knowledge and skills.

Yeah true but there are actually some good groups on telegram but they are mostly paid and 98% are scam and only 2% are real so it is hard to find them but I do know a few good ones so I cannot agree that all are fake and worth it, some are worth it but you have to find them and no one shares their source either, with time you just get those if you are determined.

Having the right tools is as important as having the right news because I got the news from someone that Paypal is going to allow purchase of bitcoins and some major altcoins and I knew the price would be going high in coming weeks and so it went. But since I don't have money to invest, I didn't buy although that is how traders and investors work.

I always take all the possible signals from various free groups and then compare them to my own estimation so that is how I use the market signals instead of blindly following them and facing loss it is better to use them as a tool to estimate your understanding and if all the groups are saying DOWN and you are thinking UP then you might be wrong and it is better to take a pause, that is how I proceed. If my signals and analysis matches the signals from these groups I just go ahead and proceed with the trade.

I hardly ever trust these groups though, must be said clearly, most of these signal group admins will delete their signals if they are wrong and edit with wrong information so I don't know how good they are but to have my own analysis backed with something I use them.

What is really needed for trading ourselves is not the tools or any impact of anyone else. Considering trading is a job that requires high skills, continuous learning and updating, that is the most essential thing.

Definitely I do not need any such services :P. I am ready to spend all my time and efforts for my trading as long as I am profitable with cryptos. If you are not able to be profitable then why you stick with trading after all; I mean there will be no point of arguing about spending time on something which is supporting our life with extra income stream. So, trade cryptos if it remains profitable and then you never need to worry about all other consequences of trading.

Mixing up signals of signals which are from more than one source will lead to confusions some times. Because, there is a famous saying like all the price levels are good to enter and same is true to exit as well. It means some strategy will ask you to enter and some other strategy may ask to you exit around that price level and in the end of day both strategy may turn right and profitable.

What we need only learning from many lessons which can help us to improve our skills in trading. Once we can analyze better than before, it will not difficult to find the time to enter the market and select the right coin. We can not say that the lesson stop once we can be a pro trader because the pro trader must learn more to improve their skills. We need to learn many more lessons because the lesson will always change based on market situations.

1. copy trading can also be helpful if your going to copy best traders  . they know what they are doing to avoid the risk  of loosing .

2. bot trading can be helpful too if you will pick the best bot out there in the market . best bots are not faulty and are built to aid the trader . they will follow what you have set to them

3. to avoid feelings and time waste , you can use the number 2 in the list which is trading bot . this is the purpose of them and you can also use the number 1 together with a bot to get the best results .

Seeking info about trading signals is of course a must because in everything they say is also true but sometimes we don't believe me because they might be making a pump to throw away again because that's what they do for the premium signal community but for me that's not very convincing.

With what I analyze, of course there will be different views but the decision must be right where we correct in the trade that is being carried out, I know many are doing this but it is difficult to guess where the tokens we are trading will go.

Trading by yourself is not always fueled by emotional imbalance and it is also not just a waste of time. It is putting time and effort as well as developing your skill and strategy on your own that every trader have been doing for so long up until now. Even there is already existence of trading bots, still trading by yourself is my best choice to be done for it is a best feeling gaining through the efforts you have spent on doing your trades. Also, it depends upon the trader if he will put into trade the emotional drive due to pressure that will surely affect the way he conceptualize on how his trades will be going. Personally as a trader, I am just trading by myself always checking upon the market as well as the news for there is an affection between the market and the happenings within the society. A good trader is being developed by time and experience alone so trading by yourself is still the best option for me to be done.

I have heard that the promise of copy trading for you to get more profit is completely wrong. Read a review about it and most of the reviewers tell us that they lost money more than they did by themselves. Would not recommend copy trading by any chance because you won't learn anything from it.

You may lose more if you use bot trading, because it's not your under control.

This is not a road to nowhere. Trading signals from truly serious traders can be a great help for you to start your own training.
In addition, experienced traders can explain their actions to you, which will lead to faster learning. Always look at the cost of signals of this kind, it should not be expensive but not too cheap.

I have the same opinion but most people do not want to do this and this is because learning how to trade is hard, you will need to at least dedicate a year to learn how to trade and that is if you are dedicated if you are not you will need a longer amount of time and people do not want to wait that long, after all many of the ads they see over the Internet talk about all the money they can make in this market not understanding that money comes from other traders and the only way to obtain consistent profits is to outsmart other traders constantly and that can only be done if you know the markets better than they do.

Bot trading is one thing I never tried, and I don’t think I will be trying it in future, I have never been interested in it for once, because people who claim to make use of it are never open with their opinions as to whether it works or not, but a lot of people have said they are very risky and can even be worse.

Although I have also seen people who say that you have to properly set them before they work, and you don’t just set it once and leave it, you will keep on resetting it every time depending on the market condition. Then as for copy trading, I think if there are professionals around that you can copy, then it will probably be a good idea.

I think that knowledge and experience are all that is essential to trading or trading in the cryptocurrency markets. When the analysis is done in a knowledgeable and experienced way instead of using many signal algorithms or similar things while trading, there is absolutely no need for another auxiliary product. In other words, I think a good level of technical and fundamental analysis knowledge will be sufficient to trade and that this information can be successfully traded.

On the other hand, it will be worth noting that those who trade as I mentioned will trade with less stress. I don't think there is a need to copy other traders 'trades, use assistive algorithms, and trade with others' ideas.

In doing trade in cryptocurrency, it is much better to learn in our own experience rather than copying other style in trading although there's nothing wrong with it. But like what I said learning in our own experience is the best tools and way for us to improve ourselves to earn big in the future dude, just simple as that.

Signals has been Done years ago when they spread Shits all over the community and Giving BS Signals for their Telegram members and even those paid one?still brings nothing but BS.
and try believing your Instinct at some point.

I am having hard time staying calm with the actions itself, not the aftermath, which is really something rare and new because I wasn't like this. I have been involved with crypto for a long time now, and I have traded before, not a lot because I am mainly an investor but I have traded here and there time to time because it was fun plus I worked with a trading bot company before as well (sales) so I know one thing or two about trading.

However when it comes down to today, with all the uniswap and tokens and defi and many other trading using metamask, all of those scares me and confuses me and I can't stay calm. Unfortunately I have been doing not so well as a result. Hopefully I am going to keep insisting on learning, not focusing on profiting, and when I feel more comfortable I could maybe do better.

Since covid-19 came on board i find it difficult to make a good profit from my trade. Many investors are complaining about a particular project which is not too stable in the market since covid-19 came to collapse world economy.
Every trader want to be coming home with a good smile,that will show there is something good happen in the market. Market is on predictable sometimes, because most trader always think every day is a Christmas not knowing that,trading is either you gain or you loose.
Am still watching the market if the market will still increase more than this, for me to supply to market. According to my research bitcoin will still improve more than this soon. 

Only newbies might be tempted to get these signals not established traders, and this is the point made above.
When you don't know what you're doing it. makes sense to copy trading from others or use signals that people can subscribe to but when the market is so unpredictable can you even rely on others to pick up the right signals? I think not.

In my opinion, you can't call yourself a trader if you yourself don't have the ability to judge the market on your own, in this manner you'll never get it and wlil always have to rely on other at your own expense. Just doesn't make sense, specially if you're in for the long-term. Best to learn your own way, through good and bad.

become full time trader 4 month ago, write own bot with various strategy.
now i trading in part time, follow the signal as reference in my trading.
in that case i have more time to do other things.
Social
Travel
...
just thinking how to resolve out the heavy work of trader.
an opportunity signal like an team member to interactive.
you will not feel alone in this hard journey.

You would think so, but unfortunately I have seen a lot of veteran trades who do end up buying or getting involved with these type of signal places even if not for actually getting trading info, they do it because they want to see and "feel" what the market is thinking.

Some of them end up with getting too much emotions involved after few signals coming correct, you see people making 10-20% profits in a week back to back for like 3 weeks in a row and you think it is sustainable and you end up joining them as well which could turn out to be the week they start being wrong instead of correct, or maybe you do make few weeks in a row profits with them as well then go in even bigger with them and end up losing. All I know is, veteran traders are not exempt from making newbie mistakes, they just do it much much rarely.

We build up those abilities and methods while we are on our way in exchanging, acknowledge of what we ought to do, or when we planned to exchange. Which to me won't be conceivable, on the grounds that nobody can be exact consistently, there are times you're actually going to make wrong examination, regardless of how great you may appear to be in specialized investigation and exchanging.

Yes you can never be successful without trading skills this will lead to more damage you need to learn the different trends of trading over time and follow the strategies of the trade market need to start with a little capital trading signals help the most in trading. The risk is less here and it is easier to determine the price of a currency if you can analyze the trends of trading signals therefore one's own knowledge and experience is most applicable in trading.

What is needed is a process and the process takes a long time and cannot be done instantly, such as studying trading in order to understand where the market is going. Being a trader must be independent and not rely on other people. Although at the beginning of learning to follow other people's guidelines, we must have our own analysis.

Studying TA and FA is an obligation if you want to master the science of trading and it depends on the willingness and persistence to learn it.

I agree with you  but it depends on the source. Some signals are made to hype also,that is to sell.Though  they are good indicator but it is still better to know in your own way so that you can confirm those signal.

You need to start trading on a demo account. This is the most important rule, I know it for sure) :) :o You need to open a real account on the exchange only after 1 year of trading on a demo account. Then trading will be enjoyable and profitable.

What I need in my trading is patience. It's a virtue most persons and traders lack but then, if conceived, it could attract a lot of good fortune for the individual. I need patience in my trading in the sense that, after carefully doing an analysis, patience helps in guiding against loses as it enables you to identify key entry and exit signals or triggers before taking a position in the market.
It doesn't seem like a difficult task but, it has a way of playing with your emotions and before you realize what's going on, your fear is or greed is been laid bare and it's a problem. Developing so much emotions over a trade makes you so unstable in a trade and it's not an encouraged character at all.

1st reason : they only give a Long or Short signal but do not provide the price to order.
2nd reason : Their signal is not clear so traders can consult carefully before ordering.  I mean Tradwra does not give technical analysis signals to users.
3rd: Tradwra also does not guarantee the safety of traders and also has no insurance package for them.
So I think that Tradwra is not a reputable signal channel and the risk will be very high for traders if they use Tradwra signals.
** I only express my opinion and have no intention of criticizing Tradwra. Thanks ;)

Then you need to simplify your system, forget about all of those coins and go back to the basics, trade bitcoin and maybe a few good altcoins like ETH and LTC and forget about the rest, now some may criticize this as you are out of the coins that have been the big gainers during the last months but if you cannot focus on what you are doing you would not have earned money with them anyway, it is better to just concentrate yourself on trading a small number of assets and then once you get your confidence back you can go back to those coins.

I do not use any kind of signals in my trading system because I'm earning consistently with the system that I built. What traders need is not a signal but rather an education that will guide them in order to become successful in their trading journey. The learning process should not be skipped and many traders are doing that because they do not want to get stressed and to spend most of time studying the price action and also the chart. Those traders who keep believing in signals are for sure they are the one who keep incurring losses because they do not have enough time to study by their selves. The two suggestions in the OP are not good for traders because it teaching the trader to become dependent to other. Copy trading can be considered as profitable but the thing is will you learn if you keep copying someone's trades? Of course, not and for me trading by yourself is the best strategy that a certain trader can choose in order to become profitable.

even if you claim that trading alone affects emotions, then it is a waste of time. I think you better not have to trade. I know that the options provided with the bot are very helpful. However, the true spirit of commerce and mentality is to trade itself. where when experiencing advantages and disadvantages that will be perceived knowledge and used as lessons. there is a special point. somehow it is clear that it increases pervasive knowledge.

In essence, trading itself is a traditional technique that is still superior (in my opinion as a trader).
back again with the tastes of each trader.

How come that it is a waste of time when you are affected by your trades? We should not stop trading just because we are affected by our emotions. Psychological attacks always happen around trading world. You can't escape from getting stressful because no matter how you are numb, you always look for the funds you have. If trading does not affect by emotions, there are no lessons we will get from it. Besides, using emotions sometimes will help us to prevent the future loss.

1. High risk indeed but some do see it a better way if they are lazy on studying up on their own.
2. Its for automation but there are some people do rely on it and just let the bot do its work.
3. Most suggested one but majority arent really that too patient on learning up things that can be worth for long term.

When it comes to tools needed then its already been supplied.It will only just differ on how people do make use of it for the sake of learning.

Most especially if you are in long term trading, patience will be measured, I remember last time I have a coin and got panic I sell it immediately and then after some hrs it pumps, so I missed the ATH because I'm too nervous or something like you called FOMO, so aside from proper knowledge about a coin, we should learn how to manage our emotions as well because trust me, it will be measured and if you too soft you will sell a potential coin in low price.

I don't think relying on bot trading or choosing AI-based trading will give a trader a big advantage within time. Maybe for short term trading using the trading bots is understandable but the long term traders don't care about the AI-based trading, in my humble opinion. Big institutional funds and hedge fund organizations actively use the bots and AI-based trading strategies for boosting the winning amounts because the traders on hedge fund organizations receive a yearly bonus depending on the profit/loss ratio.

Either myth or fact, many events after the coin was sold, the price immediately went up, especially when we panicked and sold without seeing the prospect of the coin in the future so that the coin was sold at a low price, but a few moments later the price of the coin rose again. I often experience things like this when trading when the coins that I sell prices continue to rise, but vice versa, sometimes when the coins I want to buy the price immediately dumps. In the future, I will be more careful in buying and selling coins, if the coins have good prospects I prefer to hold for a while until the price goes up again.

Nice try in promoting that signal provider but I don't think it's necessary for the traders to have a trading signal service. First of all they wouldn't be able to gain experience or knowledge to that signal provider also in practice you can control your emotions so it would not affect your trading strategy.

Demo accounts will not help you if you want to learn to trade,
because demo accounts can be manipulated, and not according to the direction of the market,
it's better to use real accounts and deposits, you can learn chart analysis in tradingview.

I think first step how to start trading is need salary, without have salary we can't trade although now with the best moment and altcoin to buy. Big or little salary have impact how much profit will you earn, if you have much salary looks easy how to earn much profit with your trading. Then after have salary you looking for channel or update news with new coin potential to higher price, after getting an update you can analyze by your self and check later how to get much profit with trading, when the moment for buying and getting with the moment when have to sell.

And those emotions are important sometimes because if you become a robot with no emotions and hence no learning you will quickly lose your bankroll. It is emotions that enable us to execute some trades at loss to avoid further loss and saves us from falling into a disastrous situation. I hold many altcoins and some in past become dust but when their price started to drop I actually was emotional or wise enough to sell them and although at loss I still saved much more than I would have if I was not emotional and stuck with those shitcoins.

I think one thing we all need in crypto market is sharpness and awareness because the market is volatile and you have to keep an eye on the news around the market and if you are able to do that effectively you will do good trades more than bad ones.

The point is people have to pay 0.03 ETH/month to subscribe but there is no guarantee and his disclaimer; we do not do any advice, use at your own risk.
Look at the signals, from 28 (2020-11-04 13:33:00) to 20 (2020-11-06 01:14:00), you'll know that his signal are; sell, sell, sell, always sell when the best thing to do is buying at low and sell at high.
If someone bought BTC1 in 2020-11-04 at $13,877 and sold it in 2020-11-06 at $15,945 which mean the profit is $2,068 in just 2 days.
That's the moment you know his signal is nonsense and make you lose your capital and monthly subscription fee.

In trading, you always have to focus on your experience and trading strategy. Instead of being frustrated by others' trading strategies and types, try to determine your own strategy. However, you can compile information from a variety of sources and match it with your trading experience and techniques. If they match your skills and experience, you can use them to make the necessary trading decisions. But in all cases you have to prioritize your own experience and skills otherwise success is not possible by trading.

Patience is important but a lot of times people confuse patience with inactive behavior or being too relaxed. I have seen traders who work in altcoins market often stay too relaxed and end up losing a lot of money while on the other hand people who are active sell the coins and tokens at the right time and made profit from the same investment.

Patience is important in BTC market because when it drops people panic a lot and start thinking about the end of Bitcoins which is funny to be honest because when the price is reaching next levels like it is now doing, no one talks too positive but if it drops by 1-2k everyone starts sweating, so you need some patience in those times.

In everything you do it's always best to keep things that you'll learn something out. Don't frustrate yourself it won't help anything, don't regret if you mised something.

Instead do your best to acquire more knowledge keep moving forward and don't stop learning, many traders failed thinking that it's just an easy access to succeed. you have to realized that you are inside trading where more big whales and sharks waiting for you. Without proper knowledge you'll just be wasting your money, you needed to extend your will to excell and be very competitive.

I can adjust signal very nice look, good buy, good sell. but that not show the really market. Also if one good entry point, only 10 people copy that totally changed.
In this case signal comes sell side multiple times in short times, that means market manipulated long a lot quickly.
The signal from algorithm is consistency, market is manipulated, trading need more wisdom.
You need find out the signal regularity with you knowledge before to use in real order.

tradwra can use in free but not got signal notify.

1. Copy trading (High Risk)
In this case, the risks do not depend on you. In fact, you entrust the management of your funds to another person, everything will depend on the quality of his trade.

2. Bot trading (Not under control)
There are different types of bot trading. Automatic where the bot does everything for you. And the type of trade where the bot helps you technically (open and close orders). In the first case, the risks are huge, the bot does not know how to adapt as humans can. In the second, the risks are less since you are trading and everything depends on you.

3. Trading by yourself (Emotional influence, wasted time)
It all depends on your experience and skill. The more experience you have, the lower the risks.

A very good recommendation, this can help many traders who want to trade instantly. But I trade so far it is not dependent on others or on paid trading signals.
Because as long as we depend on it all, I become stupid because it’s not my own skill set, and it makes me dissatisfied with relying solely on others.
I’m sorry about all this.
I learned to trade gradually, although it took a very long time. But it can all hone my knowledge and expertise in trading.
However, with paid trading signals, it doesn’t matter either, it’s just my opinion. If the trader wants to use a paid signal trading service, yes go ahead.
All decisions rest with each one.

Following a signal service is the same as copy trading (high risk), right?
To achieve success requires hard work and high struggle, so let them learn from their mistakes because then their experience will grow. So this case is about what is needed in trading so obviously, his knowledge and experience from his flying hours will make trading easy over time.

Signal providers are for the most part useless and it is not difficult to know why, if someone knew what the market was going to do then he could trade his own signals and make money that way, and in the case he was lacking money then all what he will need to do is to manage the money off other people with a lot of money and make money that way too, as you can see selling signals makes no sense and yet there are many people that still think that is their path to success.

People does have wrong perception towards these signals and as you mentioned where they do believe that this is indeed the path to success but actually those
traders are actually trying to milk out some money to other people by giving off those analysis which are actually can be done by you on your own without the need
on paying up someone for that.

All you do need is your own time and discipline plus your own effort on making trades.You wont need those signals or groups yet everything can be learned via online.
If you arent really that lazy then you would really enhance yourself in no time. Im also a self-taught trader.Yeah its hard but its attainable.

Sometimes trading by yourself is more reliable than someone  helping you to trade in the market which he will not know if you will be okay with the current price that is spreading every day by day in the market. It is better to trade your coins by yourself to know what you want and what you don't want in the market exchange not to make you cry I wish I know which is confusing some trader not to sell in the right time,hoping the price will still go up that later lead them to loss in their trade.

How it can be manipulated if demo account is also relying on real time market events.  I suggest to newbies to first try demo accounts before putting real money in exchanges because that demo account will help them to understand how the market works. Imagine if a certain newbie putted money in exchanges without prior experience wherein he do not understand how to execute a trade. For sure he will make a lot of mistakes because he do not know and used to it. Demo account for months are enough and a trader should get a lot of experiences first before putting real money in his portfolio.

Patience
Experience
Persistence

Once you discipline yourself to a certain level where other people's opinions like FOMO don't affect your emotions you're heading to be a great trader. Leverage on your mistakes and let them be your experience. Oftentimes people just want to trade and make profits whereas business is not always for the profit. You have to lose some to gain some.

I remember with my own friends who used their premium signals only to be fooled just to buy certain coins so that there was an increase when people bought more, someone admin sold deeper and it became the experience they experienced.

It is not the best thing we have to have experience in risk trading or whatever it will be a lot of lessons we will know which ones are corrected by ourselves because it was an unexpected mistake so we will not regret much compared to having to follow in a group trading signals.

I also thought that trading signals are the only way in order to become profitable in trading, but I am wrong because joining in trading signal is one of the fastest way in order to lose huge money in the market. I remembered last 3 years ago where I joined in a trading signal group where there is no payment or subscription fee, I'm so happy at first because I thought that I will able to achieve financial freedom but I found out that it is not possible when I experience to lose because of that shitty signals and tips. I do not blame them because I'm aware that it is my fault to be ignorant in the market that is why I'm lose but that experienced give me a lesson that I can use in my daily lives. Right now, I always tell them and saying a lot of warning to the newbies especially those who want to join premium signal groups. Actually 99% or maybe all of it are just scam where it can give you huge losses.

All I need is capital and knowledge.

Knowledge is important though because all the experience and strategies I knew and will know will be very important as I go by. It is hard being an amateur and doing it all on your own but that is where the capital is important, you could just learn from the mistakes you've made and stand again stronger and better than you are previously. Losses happen, it just depends on how you handle it and how you go from there.

Trading is tough way of earning in crypto .We can still earn a lot of from here if we get lots of experience behind it .You mention the three reason behind making of loss but i think we can avoid these three things .I can added here if i can control my emotions and greediness we can surely earn from trading .Besides we have to learn and follow up the news all time to get more profit as well .

Signals themselves are not bad in nature, they are simple things that does TA for you, check indicators and charts, and when something that "should be" good place to buy hits according to those indicators, they notify you to buy, and when it "should be good" to sell according to their indicators they tell you to sell.

It is just a regular method in every investment, normally when things are looking like they are going down or up you can see it in the charts according to certain patterns, doesn't mean it has to happen but there is a chance it might. However in crypto world things do not work that way, you end up with a lot of crazy volatile movements that you can't explain, which is why there is a big number of people who end up with not making any profit when they follow TA.

You can not do much good trade with only following news aspect. You need to balance the trade with technical analysis or chart that you draw. You need a good and well understandable chart that will help you in the market. If you stay with only the news, you will miss the trend that is either sustained from the old or formed from the new.

The emotion is important to check but difficult thing to do. Our emotion is unstable then our greed will increase. It need to be checked.

It seems to me that most of all there is not enough time and patience, because when you do scalping, the time period for transactions is constantly increasing and the activity smoothly moves from trading to short-term investing. Although it is possible that every time you want to get a little more and constantly increase or lower prices for sale and purchase.

I want to continue exchanging and still expectation that one day, the crypto market will rise once more. In the event that I get an exchanging signal from others, I won't simply utilize it to purchase and sell the coin. This is pretty much like placing your cash into the bank like fixed stores. Anyway for this situation you get greater liquidity and confided in pay. It is obscure pay too.

The crypto market will consistently vacillate, and the cost will consistently change each day. I as of now set myself up for any circumstances that can occur with the market, and I don't anticipate an excess of this moment. This is pretty much like placing your cash into the bank like fixed stores.

Since the year is approaching, every trader want to know how much they lose or gain through out  the year which is come to an end soon, that remain few weeks to enter 2021. Since bitcoin is rising that is causing many trader to make more profit from their trading in the market which is also making some crypto trader to start experiencing loss because of the falling of the cryptocurrency during the pandemic. Every trader want to make a good income out of their trade which is the major thing every trader want from their trade to achieve something good,at the end of their trade. Base on the way bitcoin is pumping since we enter pandemic that caused crypto to dump through out the season, where many crypto trader lose a lot profit, during the few months of the pandemic which was causing bitcoin to keep rising in the market which was causing other cryptocurrencies to reduce in the market.

We definitely don't need any signal provider, as most of them are just scam. Both copy trading and bot trading are also very risky. The current market situation is very volatile. So, you have to devise your own strategy how to trade. You can't learn trading overnight, as you start trading you will gradually learn it. At the same time, you have to master technical analysis, if you wanna be a professional trader in future.

I think in order to succeed in trading you don't need signal groups or any tutor to 'guide' you through your investments.

What you need is knowledge of the market, different strategies, information on what others are doing how are other investors acting etc - all of this is information. And in line with this you also need a network of people you trust and can share information about opportunities as well as dangers.

Thus, the two most important things that go beyond trading are:

• Information/knowledge
• Trusted network

If you are a trader the community reviews has a big part in preventing scams and reduce the risk of money loss due to investing in unknown tokens so if this trading signals are based on the community reviews than it can be helpfull to new inexperienced traders .

And all of these things does need a corresponding effort before you can able to achieve these things because if you are that lazy on learning then expect that it would really
be hard for you to proceed on.Relying on others signals and tips aren't really that ideal but somehow it can really be good as a preference and learn into it.
Everything can be found on net its just a matter of effort on how you do search and utilize those things up for your own benefit.
If you don't then you wont really move forward and just end up on relying from time to time.

I do not need bots or copy trading because what I need right now is books and thesis where I can study and do some backtesting for me to become a good trading. I do not even consider copy trading as good because it can help us to become a lazy trader wherein you are just following and waiting the trader to trade. What you need are the books about technical analysis, actually books about stock trading is also applicable in cryptocurrency market so I also suggest it if you are having hard time to find a trading that is purely about cryptocurrency market.

I agree that is all what they need in order to create their own signals, they just need to be disciplined, learn how to trade by reading several books, create their own strategy and now they can trade the markets way more effectively than any advice they could receive from signal providers, but for the most part I have discovered long time ago that is not what people want, they want to get great profits from the market without the efforts necessary to do so and it is because of this signal providers are so popular because they sell that very idea.

In general, if you think about copy trading, it doesn't make you a trader at all, you just copy, and not even yourself, but with the help of a third-party program.
Therefore, I don't think that this can make you a lazy trader because it cannot make you a trader at all. If you are already too lazy to trade yourself, but are ready to entrust your money to someone else, this option suits you.

The market situation can be low or high but your mindset up should be thought big. Because I believe that you have good knowledge and experience. Anyone really needs knowledge and patience. Without knowledge you can't make any single successful trade rather than you will lose your money. On the other hand, sometimes you have to wait more than you expect. So patience should behold regarding such situations.

Considering that luck may give you winning trade but in the long run without knowledge you'll lose it all over again. You need to continue doing your

study and research in order to get winning position. Much better to have bigger chance of success as your knowledge will guide you than keep trying

to place your bid without any idea on what you are doing.

Trading is for those who are open and willing to learn and together with good attitude you'll be able to convert a winning strategy.

Trading only requires capital and knowledge,
without trading knowledge you will not be able to trade in the world of cryptocurrencies,
trading here is very cruel, the volatility is too high, for beginners I am sure you will be hit by Rekt easily.

Salary first, without knowledge and you have much money you can trade and have possibility to get much profit, but what for have knowledge if you haven't money for trading, how to start trading and get profit? I think most important with trading is money, how much money we have will give feedback with how much profit earn, if you have little salary you only get little profit but if you have much money you sill earn much profit for your trading, always depend with money we have when trading, without money we can start trading any more.

Volatility is cruel but generous on the other side like right now the bull run is going on so even a bad trader can profit easily as he just needs to buy and sell his coins and even if he buys right now the price is going to inflate further so there is no way they can lose.

In general crypto trading or dare I say altcoin trading is very dangerous because there are new coins listed on exchanges every day and you never know which coin is good because from outside they all look good and seem to serve a purpose behind them. Once you have learned about the technical analysis it helps a lot as you at least start spotting brutal scams that are promising and promoting to the moon but they are not even working working on a solid model.

Some people are telling about the telegram signal group by which you will get a trading signal for being profit. Behind the scenes, almost one year ago I have followed a channel that was popular at that time and I joined their paid group by paying in BTC. But I didn't make any profit from that group rather I have lost my money by following their signal. So I don't need such things and stop suggesting those groups. I think your own strategy can make you successful if you have enough time and proper knowledge.

Tell us in more detail how long you used the signals, how often you opened trades, how many trades you had on average during the month, whether you used stop losses and stop profits correctly.
I participate in one of these groups, but in general I have managed to earn something so far.

But, patience should not mean waiting endlessly until the coin becomes dust and you can only look at it and laugh at yourself. As someone who has been into altcoin trading for years and collected many coins and invested into numerous projects I can confidently tell you that sometimes it is better to sell your assets at a lower price if the project has gone silent and there is no progress and the chances are bleak they will do something.

There was a time when I could have easily sold my assets and earned like 0.1 BTC without a doubt but I got greedy, waited too long and end up having to sell them at 1 satoshi and don't even know what those projects are doing now days. So patience is god with coins like BTC itself or maybe ETH but others you have to be careful if they are going down forever or just a routine drop as the dump and pump cycle happens with every other coin.

You don't your ideas.

You have a strategy, and I think that's what you mean as you trade.

It's better to have that expectation of low income than to have a huge expectation of higher profit.

The most important factor you need to have in trading is skills.

If you got these you can withstand anything, as you should be able to assimilate the information quickly and efficiently. In fact, I would argue that you don't even need to have money to start trading if you got the right mindset and skills as you can always borrow or trade on leverage and make a healthy profit  ;)

Even if it been long since he's using the signals, what I read is that cryptocurrency trading signals cant be trust because they are always a group used for the dump of their sock puppet coin so they can sell at a high price while their signal follower will make lost.

Even with borrowed and leverage trading you need to have your Capital backup. We don't know what will be the outcome end of the day. Everything made is out of prediction, skills play a big role and the same can't get us success everytime in the cryptospace. If the market fluctuates in the higher margin what will happen with the user getting into leverage trading.

True, my strategies could not also work in your situation as well. People will come up with their own strategies later on and they could also use other strategies blindly for hope to make it work on their own situation. If he wants to trade like that and good for him if he gets a return from it.

Yes, overconfidence is not a way.

Although, your link to tradinng guides may be helpful to a lot of poeole but
Actually, what is needed in trading are :
Patience and Nof being greedy.
If you know what you are doing. You don't need any help from anybody.

After losing my money in some trades then I understand they are a group and they are trying to dump a coin token for their own interest actually. Then they buy that and sell high after few days. The strategy is not a new but my experience with them was totally new for me. Without trading skills, it is difficult to catch them as fraud. Still trying to learn trading.

Yup.

Your strategy will work perfectly only for you but it may not work for others.

This will also make you confident that you can reach that small threshold. A little by little upgrade seems to be good.

To be fair, it is all about our comfort that should be taken into priority. And that is for me with a quality crypto exchange (https://timex.io/), as IF we have that then we will always be able to gain well and consistently. I do just that with help of TimeX, my comfort is very much here, as they are one of the best there is with excellent service along with several other benefits too, so it all combines rather nicely for one to do well.

By the looks of it, you are shilling your own signals which is something that the community cannot really tolerate these days. Never say that your service is the “best in the world”. There are no such guarantees in profits no matter what strategy you have, because no strategy is perfect and everything here in the world of cryptocurrency is automatically high risk. What we need to have these days is proper risk management, both time and financially.

Thats what they usually do and soon or later they will play the trick on you and others followers which is not part of the group executive. The best thing you can do is to improve your knowledge in trading and follow whales accumulation.

Basically, the platform where I will be trading must be safe. Then I want to trade on a trading site that charges a low fee. Another thing is that I don't need a signal provider.

Yeah, as his signal site isn't a good one for subscribing to, preferred to trade by yourself, by your own decision. The technical and mathematical analysis will provide a better explanation of the probability that will happen in the crypto market, and one more thing to observe, namely fundamental or trend analysis.
However, not everyone can do those things, so there is plenty of analysis out there to be observed, following 1-2 top authors is a good choice.

Actually, capital is not a problem because it can easily solve where you can easily borrow to someone or to get a sideline or job for you to save a money for a capital, the real obstacle in trading is the enhancing of our skills because it takes time and a lot of practice. You cannot become a skilled trader by just spending one-night studying charts.  It took time and for me you need to spend more than 6 months just to master the basic and have foundation. Acquiring knowledge is also a problem because not all of the information in the internet is useful wherein there are some information that can harm us and can lead us to have bad performance .

Indeed, there are no shortcuts when it comes to learning about trading and it needs extra time to make it good and works well. And the reason why many traders had a struggle is that because they even not committed to doing it and willingness to learn from others but rather have their own way and discovery, and wanted to cut it in short. This is an example of impatient individuals and most likely, these kinds of personalities won't be able to stay long but have to quit after suffering losses.

I will argue that you also need experience, if you have capital and knowledge you are way ahead of the game but if that is all what you need it then many newbies should be able to become successful because they have those two tools, but since they do not have any kind of experience they tend to make mistakes that reduce their capital and reduces their confidence but once they have the experience necessary they will trade the markets just like the best.

Personal research make any trader to last long in the area of profit making. Many trader find it difficult to understand the way market work, for them to know when and where to trade in the market to make a good profit from their trade in the market.
Many traders are still holding bitcoin because they are not okay with the price in the market which many traders are satisfied with the point of the price are now, that is helping them make a good profit from their trade. Since bitcoin is still rising in the exchange market show that it is good to supply to market to enable you make a good income.

Trader try how to get much profit but always wrong when have to entry buy coin and should sell, they always looks busy when getting coin have raise higher price and brave to buy although this situation is very risk to entry for trading, but always looks panic for selling when getting price was dump and anything do it to sell without waiting few days later for altcoin back to higher price again. Maybe this situation faced many trader right now and they need the way how to control their self with this situation to get much profit.

The crypto market will consistently vary, and the cost will consistently change each day. I as of now set myself up for any circumstances that can occur with the market, and I don't anticipate a lot of this moment. In the previous one you can just securely purchase these coins and get up to numerous interests paid out to you. This is pretty much like placing your cash into the bank like fixed stores. Anyway for this situation you get greater liquidity and confided in pay.

Trading requires everything, from capital to techniques,
without trading techniques it is like someone who is blind, therefore before trading learning analytical techniques is very important,
we know what the risks of trading in cryptocurrencies are, right? so don't be blind

Trading is a risky thing anf you can't do anything quickly until you accept the risk easily. You may lose your money in trading. On the other hand, you will make double or more money by trading. So for making such things, you must have to hold trading knowledge and patience which can help you to go a long way.

Losing has a higher chance of trading.

High risk but the reward is higher than the usual source of income that we know. It's lucrative if you're an experienced trader and you can read charts and apply it to your trading method.

Patience is needed and it's part of the discipline as a trader.

Signal provider is a joke and just a waste of time,And having low fee exchange saves us a lot but sometimes Minimal fee is normal specially  if the Exchange is proven safe and legit so yeah choose the perfect exchange that will Fit our trading habit.
Good sharing mate but i will stay in my fav exchange.

There are a lot of risks in trading so it is possible to make a profit by reducing the amount of profit and loss patience is the biggest tool for trading Trade investment will have to wait patiently for any job. If you become more greedy and increase the amount of risk in trading signals need to be followed in order to make double the money by looking at the state of the market otherwise it will be difficult to survive for a long time.

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Signals are a total waste of time and money, how do these signal groups or websites know if a coin/token is going to increase in price anyway?, if it is based on technical analysis it means it's going to be at least 30-40% of the times wrong, and if the signals are just giving out randomly and they hope that these people that bought the Premium/VIP are going to get the signal and buy and therefore increase the price and cause a pump then how are they going to make sure everyone gets profit this way and some of them won't left out with some shitcoin couldn't sell fast enough while the pump is over?, I believe at the very least 50% of those who pay for such signals are going to end up with less money at the end.

I think for me personally; i need a mentor that can guide me through interpretations of charts correctly; because i believe if i can fix charts and fundamentals correctly; interprete the charts easily; then i can take up a strategy for trading; and follow the process until perfection. Trading is never easy; one has to keep trading, learning, correcting mistakes until perfections. I am ready for that.

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And even after you get all of that it would have been for nothing if you do not have control of your emotions and just when you need it the most you do not apply those techniques whether because you are afraid or because you are too greedy, this is one of the many reasons why trading is so hard for people to understand and to profit from, they know what they need to do but when the times comes they decide to not do it even if their system tells them that is the right move, and as long as people keep that mentality they will never become successful traders.

Well I don't need a signal provider, but I want very detailed analysis for trading, because I think analysis keeps alive a trader. Detailed analysis is the key of trading.

The signals are only for those who are lazy and will not use their weight to make money. A lot of people are already using the bots and such services and as a result they always lose money. Simply because this is a financial market, people who do not know how to use money will be eliminated.
In our trading career, we should only believe in our own analysis and create the trading strategy that works best for us. This is the real key to success in trading.

Exactly, people do not want to make the effort that it takes to become a good trader and they want to take shortcuts instead of relying on their own knowledge, they prefer to rely on the knowledge of someone else and this may work for a time but eventually they will begin to lose money as they do not know what they are doing, what if you are told to keep holding your coins when the market seems like it is crashing? Could you keep holding your coins in that case not knowing why you are doing it? Most people are not going to be able to do it and then they will doubt the signals they are receiving and lose money that way.

Most of the time those who use trading signal without knowledge lose their investment, you can only benefits from this kind of service if you also have

ideas regarding to what project the tipster are providing. Most of them are just pump and dump project if you have an idea which to place your money

you can ride with it quickly and take profits before it dumped down.

And this is precisely the issue with signals, not only they make no sense at all for the one that is giving the signals but they also make no sense for the one that is receiving them, after all how are you going to know if the signals that you are receiving are any good if you do not know anything about trading? You could be receiving signals that leads you to a pump and dump scam and you will not know it, but if you know about trading and you are able to know if the signals are good or not then why do you need the signals at all?

You don't need analysis too, just learn how to use the indicators and make your own technical analysis because analysis from others depends on their indicators used which is not goi5to be same with any other analysis reports.

There are some free quides and courses available to learn TA for free.

I need a really trading to the very good marketplace. so I really sale and buy with good environment. the first is the cannot be right all the time. so obviously the single and I will you there are times you are still going to be marketing. wrong and licence no matter how good you may seem to be in technical eyes and trading .I will not just used to to buy and sell the coin. but I will analyse more to to find out if I can use that signal what I don't need it because we need to make our own plan to make a profit.

Own trading strategies are quite profitable in trading because many people like traders , didn't want to take risks because of their money issues and having problems at all. And I want to say one more thing that trading can be beneficial only following and enjoying own trading strategies with the powerful thinking.

Crypto market follows one strategy at a time. So the chances of copy trade here are very low. If you want to make a profit from here, you have to follow your own strategy. And to follow your own strategy, you need to have proper knowledge about trading. You don't have to rely on trading signals alone.

Greed is the core of why we are here, without greed we can't get richer, the only reason why humans ever want to get rich is greed and wanting more and better. Don't get me wrong, you could be living a very poor and bad life and want to get rid of the bad life you are in and want to get back into a good life, that's still called greed because you want more and more that you do not have and some other person has.

So, the stigma that "greed is bad" hurts a lot of people, even the people who are not rich at all and work hard to get to a level they want to, hard work in life results with money most of the time and just because they are richer now doesn't mean that they are bad people. There are also rich people who are bad as well, do not mix them two together, just because one person is greedy and gets rich that doesn't mean they are bad, but it also doesn't mean they are good neither.

I think the main thing is control of emotions and risk management. But I would put risk management first because of its incredible usefulness.
When you manage your risks, you very quickly understand where you can lose money, which means you will lose less on your own training, which is always associated with mistakes and therefore with losses.

Professional trader will never follow both of bot trading and copy trading because it's a artificial, And based on these way you never sustain long time in trading field. Own trading strategy will help to survive and to make profit either today/tomorrow.

As you say there are many things that a trader is going to need if they really want to become successful, however I will say that the very first thing newbies need is to reduce the expectations they have out of this market, when I see the forum I see a bunch of newbies that want to get rich quick, and I get it, after all who would not like the possibility of getting rich in a few weeks? But that is the exception rather than the rule, they need to reduce their profit goals, because by doing so then they can reduce the risks they take, and for newbies this is critical as that is the point in your trading career when you have the highest chances of making silly mistakes and you do not want to lose all your capital because of just one mistake.

There are traders that use bot because it's helpful to them but for copy trading, this is just another feature but it is unlikely effective for most.

True with copy trading because if the person you copy is dwelling in losses, then you have no choice but to dwell on it too as you copy.

they tend to believe in themselves when trading, so that whatever happens, be it profit or loss, they can enjoy it. from several sources they get, will be poured into a graph so that it becomes a work area, and after that they will wait for opportunities to enter the market, and the final result no one knows, they will use their experience to respond to the market

Don't trust others blindly. Don't blindly follow the order. Maintain good patience. Trading is an adventure game.

I think I need to understand the macro economy and the flexibility of the news side. In many cases, I find that it is affected by the news side when it rises or falls. The influence of the news side is very common in Bitcoin transactions.

I think i need the strategy not to depend on signal provider before trading in the market. Signal provider has made many investors to miss their reward from their investment. It can change negatively base on the wrong network that occurred at the moment that make many customers that believe on the signal provider to lose profits.
When you are trading with strategy and experience, it help to go a long way in profits making in the market. Trade when the demand are surplus in the market, it will enable you to make so much profit from your trade in the market. It will help you to know the right time to buy coins and hold for future Profit making. Through the strategy you can identify wrong signal in your trade and how to avoid to enable you to achieve your goals.

Copy trading is becoming more popular but the concept is flawed, think about it those that have a winning strategy and that they know they can make profits on their own will never accept for this information to be leaked, after all they probably spent a huge amount of time trying to find that strategy and they will not allow this to be leaked so easily, so we need to ask the question who is letting himself to be copied in this way? And the only answer I can find are the manipulators of the market which want to pump and dump some coins.

When you start trading then you need to be control yourself ans control your emotion.I Think, you also need to keep patience. You need to know about trading skill and good experience. For me,I Don't do copy trading and bot trading. i think own trading strategies quite more profit in trading business.

Which ever route you choose to go with the risk will always remain with you as the trader and can never be transferred to someone else for providing the wrong signal and  we at the end of the day we want to put the blame on others No that's not trading.

Before choosing to use other people's signals or copy trading or or trading own our terms let's first get to learn risk management first , so that should there be any draw down,our account can take this market move and if market turns we can move stop loss to breakeven to trade risk free and enjoy the profits.

The factors like risk management, emotional trading, consuming more time etc. These all factors are related to trading and controlling them will give a trader much profit, as compared to being controlled by them. Some of the top trader take control of these factors by making their trading strategies better and helpful for themselves.

Right now the market is good for traders. This means there is regular price fluctuation in large margin. This can't be expected to happen every time. Even the person who hasn't got much of knowledge about trading will make good fortune out of the market. For this reason at present users who has the affordability/capital will make use of the market.

There's no such thing about perfect time in trading because market is really way too unpredictable on which anytime could really be a good chance for you to get in thats
why it isnt really that precise that you do wait up for a certain period or chance because you wouldnt know on what comes next on the line.When you do trade
then prepare yourself into things which you arent really expecting. Be versatile on adjusting up your own analysis whenever certain conditions might come.

When I am to trade, I don't really need someone to provide me with trading signal or copy other people way of trading. All I need is an in dept knowledge on trading and cryptocurrency in general, then I look for perfect time to make a research on a particular token I wanted trading, study it to the depth and start trading if your mindset tell you its the right time. Following signal provider is always at high risk because if there is too much trust, one can even borrow to trade thinking of getting high profit but will end up losing the entire money.

I think everyone has their own preferences in trading and whether a signal provider would be beneficial for them or not depends on their trading style and knowledge. I think that trading indicators are also useful since crypto currencies are highly volatile.

It should never be that way, we are held responsible in any action that we take while dealing with trading.

Never to put blame to anyone, you should learn how to accept mistake and learn on it to much better future trade you'll going to deal with.


Correct, make sure first that you set everything and you are willing to lose the amount that you are going to use for copying someone,

there's no assurance that the call will make you succeed, risk is always behind you so consider your trade as unpredictble outcome.

Trading indications are yes really needed, besides this, one must be updated on news and updates of the coin he/she has invested, so that one will know when the coin will spike up or fall down in the market. Choosing the right and the best coin to invest is really must. Need to choose the best exchange where the trading volume of the coin you wish to invest is really high. Besides all these, never ever panic or fall into market manipulation which will lead you to loose. Be patient enough always

I think for those who choose coins and markets are a must where traders can choose comfortably, perhaps the Binance exchange that is still becoming popular to trade there.
And many other trusted exchanges.

On the other hand, indicators and chart analysis are very important things to determine where the coin will go, usually traders always use this method and also other references as additional options and some even formulate it more than this, so the technique in trading is very broad and we have to be able to combine them.

What I really need. How I wish I can always predict the market when to buy or sell cryptocurrency 😄 this is really what I need in my trading.

Copy trading in my opinion is less effective. I prefer my own trading style. It will be much more able to develop my trading style slowly and I can correct what is wrong and right. Although I still need information from other parties to analyze the coin and this is only a comparison, the rest is my own decision.

Don't live in antiquity and keep to such a traditional path, asserting our skills and style is a good thing but very few people can go to the top based on such tradition, more precisely, when we have not been outstanding in talent and cannot break old styles to develop new styles, copy trading is a shortcut for us. Like many shark bosses in the market, they only use other people's talents, their attraction is only their eyes and ability to give opportunities to others, honing skills is very little but honing the subtleties of eyes is a lot

For me copy trading is not a good advise to anyone to do this thing to tell you honestly.
Then, second I don't use Bot as well because if this is accurate, why all traders here in cryptocurrency
didn't use this bot trading. Meaning, it is still you can face loss of your assets even you use this bot.
just as simple as that.

I think that one of the things that you should take into account the most is security and the strategy that should never be changed for anything in the world when it is in progress. Many traders when they are in their early days tend to change their strategy when they are in the process of trading.

Also the signals in my way of view I do not see it as something correct, the signals will always fail, in fact if the signals were so perfect then those who dedicate themselves to this would not give them, because it is simply technical analysis, many times without take into account the fundamentals that are being experienced.

Agreed. Having good, reliable information before hand or even as soon as it hits the market is important in helping to strategise on ones' investment decisions and thus market position. This is because the market can move within seconds.

Besides knowing how to trade there is nothing else more important than having access to information. Intel these days is everything.

Copy trading will only be effective if you have the same confidence and capital as the trader you are copying
signal is certainly necessary but not a priority that must be heard

hone your own trading skills to how to manage emotions when trading is the best thing and also easy to apply in order to become a good trader

Before trading, one should know that the crypto market is highly volatile and you need to take risks as well. Remember to learn all you can about the crypto market and then start trading.

And be ready emotionally because most of the beginners are falling short with that. They think that it's easy to make money through trading but they still haven't seen and dived the reality that it's hard and more prone to losses. And you'll get a decent profit through your experience, knowledge, strategy and as well as with the good amount of capital. There are a lot of things to learn aside from knowing how volatile the market is because that's the reality that others don't tell about how hard it is.

I think for you there is something in between the first (copy) and the second (own style), and that is mirror trading. It is selectively following a particular trading strategy used by another trader. Here, you can keep to a few different strategies from multiple traders. It turns out to be a little more effective and more individual.

IMHO, trading is very and highly unpredictable and at the moment we cannot say that AI's can with a 100% accuracy predict and make one rich from trading. Apart from you devising and updating your trading strategy by staying at the forefront of information, you also really need "divine help" to assist you in making profitable trading decisions.

At the beginning of starting trading, of course, we are still being toyed with by our emotions where we can't see the market logically. especially after we experience a loss, then we want to recover quickly, as a result, we get a deeper defeat. therefore we must be able to set the rhythm to look for opportunities logically

Concentrate on the way with which your success is absolutely sure. Learn more and more and get it well so you will surely make income. Be calm if you are engage in trading as your calmness has great impact on your trading. Without patience it will be more hard because you will make your decision in impatience and you will face a great defeat.

When it comes or talks about success then there would be no assurance with that it would happen because everything could really happen along the way and even if you have done the best then there would be still no sureness that it could result into profits.

Of course you would really be sticking out on things which you do know that it could really give out advantage on you but this would really involves lots of trial and error
and also those mistakes would really be your learning stones on making yourself way more better.

Resources is there and the rest would really be varying or depending on your effort.

Signals could also be deceptive too. For me cooperate analysis where you have a team of traders  come together make analysis together get a good entry point after the analysis everyone hold on a position setting their stop loss and take profit at the right point that way everyone would pay close attention to the market together and it's more risk free as atleast two or three would have to see the market from the same point of view following the market trend

As market move can not be predicted, the technical analyses, trading courses, money and etc might not 100% help you to be successful in trading. Only the patience and satisfactions from small profits would lead to be successful. Yes indicators might be 100% right to follow it. But yes to the max it supports. So just invest on the right coin and set up a minimum percentage profit so that you can jump from one coin to other with a reasonable profit. At times the turn around time would be less but not often. 

Personally, I think that for good and productive trading, you need the most accurate forecast and impeccable peace of mind, since trading loves only the patient and persistent. And also trading on the stock exchange always foresees its own individual strategic way in order to get a positive result. So successful trading comes only with experience.

In my journey as a trader, of course I used all the strategies like what the OP said. I use a different strategy for each condition, such as today when the market is uncertain, I prefer to use data analysis techniques, based on my personal data of course, I also adjust the amount of purchases to minimize risk.
Of the three points mentioned by the OP above, I just don't like the Bot trading option because it tends to get out of control and cause me losses.

To be honest, everyone certainly has their own strategy in trading because a strategy in trading is really needed. Of the several types of trading that have been mentioned, each has its own advantages and risks. For now, I'm more focused on my own training because we can be more flexible and we also have full control over our assets. but the risk is that we have to really think about the trade ourselves, especially the ups and downs of the crypto market that will certainly affect our emotions. That's why traders who can't control their emotions will rush and panic when the market doesn't match with their expectations.

Proper education with the business that you will going to participate,

it's good that you think wider not to rush things out and make sure to have the proper knowledge in order to adjust in each trading situation the market will bring, we know that there are many strategies that we can follow, but doing one that we really understand gives us enough confidence to make things workable and a possibility to bring a decent amount of benefit.

We build up those abilities and methods while we are on our way in exchanging, acknowledge of what we ought to do, or when we planned to exchange. Which to me won't be conceivable, on the grounds that nobody can be exact consistently, there are times you're actually going to make wrong examination, regardless of how great you may appear to be in specialized investigation and exchanging.

It's utterly different from having a trading experience and doing it with a demo account. Well, that would be a good start when someone wants to trade.

But don't be limited to start with demo accounts. Go with the actual money play in trading into exchanges to feel the pressure and the experience that it has to be in.

Nice write up and I think you are on point here. Trading is not something that we will just be copying other people's trades without learning it ourselves. When one start trading, there's a lots to learn when it's come to emotions, placing trading, using indicators and price action, using the fundamentals to analyze your trade so you can get what you want from the market.

trade is about forecasting, the person uses technical analysis to try to predict the price, in this process it is normal to make a lot of mistakes or never get it right and lose a lot of money and give up, just see that even the guys who consider themselves trade professionals have given up trading and stay selling courses and creating youtube channels


do you trade as a full-time job? have you had good results?

I think that what is needed in any operation is to be certain that the analysis that is done coincides with some analysis of articles or something on the web, very few times it has happened to me that my analysis coincides with that of articles, since I analyze the market using Wyckoff's theory, I certainly combine it with Jesse Livermore's teachings and lastly do the technical analysis based on my final analysis of where the market will go. Obviously this past year failed me because I got carried away by the emotions that BTC was going to increase to at least $ 100k, I think that now it will go up, maybe at the end of January or if not in the first quarter of this year.

The emotion you would be dealing with demo trades and real trade is totally different because in demo you would be totally confident since you arent risking anything or something
which means that you wouldnt really be that serious on taking such step unlike when dealing with real funds then you would definitely be careful on what you are doing.
You would definitely feel up the difference in terms of stress and chills when making out trading decisions.Real experience could be attained with real deals.

The biggest difference between real trading and demo trading lies in the psychology of a trader. without the burden of demo trading, a trader can carry out his analysis well, but this will not be the same if they trade on a real account, of course the psychological burden will affect in carrying out the analysis

Everyone has their own trading strategy based on his or her knowledge and skills. Your experience will also help you with your trading to become successful. It will be your learning method rather than relying on different trading signals, just my opinion. I didn't use any signals in my trading, just learned about the market movement and trading graph which very useful and effective.

Precisely.

Demo trading is not a serious task or no one will take it seriously, even if they take it seriously, real trading will always get into their system, they'll have second thoughts because of being afraid on losing their capital. For me, there's no point on doing demo trades, go straight ahead on the real thing and experience how Trading really feels.

Be straightforward, don't waste your time, therefore you could tell right away if you want more or you've had enough.

All you need in trading is understanding . Trading requires knowledge for one to be able to come out with good outcomes.  Learning trading is not what is done for some time and stop believing  that all what you have learn is okay and would be able to sustain you in your days in trading. Trading requires consistency.