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Title: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Jating on October 31, 2020, 11:19:48 PM
Warning, there is a fake https://dice2.win/ website out there, I wanted to put this on the Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0), but there might be few gamblers specially newbies who might not frequented that board and didn't see this warning.

I put them side by side for you to see that there's not much difference and you can easily fall for it specially if you are not checking the URL.

I can't find the ANN thread of dice2.win, but I got a few hits when I do some search, so definitely, this site is well known to many gamblers since 2019.

Fake Website:
Code:
http://dice2win.co/
Archive: https://archive.is/F5Cbo

https://i.imgur.com/JRkPl1x.png
https://i.imgur.com/h80CO7J.png

Domain Info of the fake site.
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Dates    155 days old
Created on 2020-05-29
Expires on 2021-05-29
Updated on 2020-08-13
   
 
Name Servers    NS3.DNSRACKS.COM (has 3,104 domains)
NS4.DNSRACKS.COM (has 3,104 domains)
   
 
Tech Contact    REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
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(p) (f)
IP Address    65.60.34.165 - 431 other sites hosted on this server

Domain Info of the real site:

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Dates    955 days old
Created on 2018-03-21
Expires on 2021-03-21
Updated on 2020-02-05

 
Name Servers    CARMELO.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM (has 18,868,014 domains)
RUTH.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM (has 18,868,014 domains)
   
 
Tech Contact    REDACTED FOR PRIVACY (DT)
REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
REDACTED FOR PRIVACY,
REDACTED FOR PRIVACY, REDACTED FOR PRIVACY, REDACTED FOR PRIVACY, REDACTED FOR PRIVACY
(p) (f)
IP Address    104.27.164.16 - 573 other sites hosted on this


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: coupable on November 01, 2020, 12:21:14 PM
Nice catch op. Thank you for sharing.
I have tried to report the fake copy to dice2.win but also failed to find official channel in different social media so i just went to telegram and report it : https://t.me/dice2win
In telegram, i found this pinned message in top-room of dice2.win group :
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🛑 https://dice2win.co/ IS A SCAM! DON'T FALL FOR IT!
🛑 Be aware of scams - our staff will never ask your private keys or passwords, especially in PM!
And this is the reply from manager :
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Hi, we are aware of the fake site - but sadly we cannot do anything as it is not under our control, all we can do on our end is remind users not to fall for any schemes.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Porfirii on November 01, 2020, 12:45:02 PM
Warning, there is a fake https://dice2.win/ website out there, I wanted to put this on the Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0), but there might be few gamblers specially newbies who might not frequented that board and didn't see this warning.

I put them side by side for you to see that there's not much difference and you can easily fall for it specially if you are not checking the URL.

I can't find the ANN thread of dice2.win, but I got a few hits when I do some search, so definitely, this site is well known to many gamblers since 2019.


Thanks for the warning @Jating, and thanks for posting it here so many new members can be aware of the fake website.

As you state, newbies and not-no-newbies don't often check the Scam accusations section of the forum, so better here for more visibility.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: stadus on November 01, 2020, 12:47:06 PM
Thank you, this is very helpful, I think we can dedicate one thread for this so we will see all the summary of the fake or duplicate gambling sites.

It would take some effort but it's very helpful and easy to find IMO.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Norkys.2020 on November 01, 2020, 07:11:58 PM
Thanks for sharing, I have come across a couple of sites of that style, when playing it says that you won around 0.03BTC and when you go to withdraw they tell you that you have to deposit to enable withdrawal, turning out to be a complete scam.

This type of scam often uses a phishing method to mislead the player. Since I have been playing casino sites I usually visit their ANN thread to verify its authenticity.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Jating on November 01, 2020, 09:55:32 PM
Nice catch op. Thank you for sharing.
I have tried to report the fake copy to dice2.win but also failed to find official channel in different social media so i just went to telegram and report it : https://t.me/dice2win
In telegram, i found this pinned message in top-room of dice2.win group :
Quote
🛑 https://dice2win.co/ IS A SCAM! DON'T FALL FOR IT!
🛑 Be aware of scams - our staff will never ask your private keys or passwords, especially in PM!
And this is the reply from manager :
Quote
Hi, we are aware of the fake site - but sadly we cannot do anything as it is not under our control, all we can do on our end is remind users not to fall for any schemes.

Yeah, I forgot about their telegram group, I also search in this community because this is the best source of information out there, thanks as well for letting them know. Probably the best we can do is to report this site to Google: https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/?hl=en

@Norkys.2020 - there's a lot of that type of scams, even scam crypto exchanges ran like that, someone will message you in Discord and Telegram giving you this so called promo code to an exchange play the roulette win but when you are able to withdraw it, they will ask for deposit, do not fall for this trap. Yes, you can check the official ANN thread here just to make sure everything is legit.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: GeorgeJohn on November 01, 2020, 10:30:53 PM
Warning, there is a fake https://dice2.win/ website out there, I wanted to put this on the Scam Accusations (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0), but there might be few gamblers specially newbies who might not frequented that board and didn't see this warning.


Thanks op nice research, it's a courageous to everyone in forum not only for the beginners because people falls into victims of scamming due to lacks of information, and since the evidence is clear I don't really think such will affects bitcointalk users again since the information has circulated and well captured through op threads.



Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: logfiles on November 01, 2020, 10:37:49 PM
Nice catch, reporting impersonating domains to registrars is quite effective as well.  Their domain registrar is GoDaddy.com, I don't know if they are as effective in taking down fraudulent domains as namecheap.com but let me wait and see. I have reported the domain.
https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/AbuseReport#


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: samcrypto on November 01, 2020, 10:46:18 PM
I’m not into a dice game that much but this one is a great warning for everyone. You should not download anything from any suspicious source because we know what will happen next when you downloaded that file. Gamblers have to see this one, especially on those who are playing into this site, know that there’s a fake one.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: TimeTeller on November 01, 2020, 11:16:26 PM
I’m not into a dice game that much but this one is a great warning for everyone. You should not download anything from any suspicious source because we know what will happen next when you downloaded that file. Gamblers have to see this one, especially on those who are playing into this site, know that there’s a fake one.

They have been online for about 5 months now, so more than likely they screwed some players already.
They cloned the site and players who will not check the domain name will think this is legit site.
The fake site is not secured while the legit one is secured.

https://i.imgur.com/y1jWKNi.png

https://i.imgur.com/rxk89lF.png


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: btc_angela on November 02, 2020, 05:00:22 AM
Nice catch, reporting impersonating domains to registrars is quite effective as well.  Their domain registrar is GoDaddy.com, I don't know if they are as effective in taking down fraudulent domains as namecheap.com but let me wait and see. I have reported the domain.
https://supportcenter.godaddy.com/AbuseReport#

I have done my part:

https://i.imgur.com/eD7PtZB.png

Every gambler should have a consensus effort to report this to the domain registrar itself. I will update once I received any notification from GoDaddy.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: toast on November 02, 2020, 09:57:34 AM
at first glance it's they really looks the same so i think some people would really fall for this site. good thing you've shared it in the gambling community nice catch op.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: dimonstration on November 02, 2020, 01:03:21 PM
at first glance it's they really looks the same so i think some people would really fall for this site. good thing you've shared it in the gambling community nice catch op.
Hopefully many will be able to read it as it's really unnoticeable especially if we're using crypto and doing online transactions we should be very careful in checking the domain. It should be secured and will not ask for too much details like our codes, passwords and account number as casino only requires username in creating account.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: serjent05 on November 02, 2020, 01:26:31 PM
at first glance it's they really looks the same so i think some people would really fall for this site. good thing you've shared it in the gambling community nice catch op.

I also look at the two sites, they are almost identical except for that metamask option, the fonts size, the domain of the fake site being not secured, and not mentioning the domain name itself.  Also, there is no bet counter on the fake site though newbies won't probably notice these differences.  So it is a good thing OP did create this thread to warn us and not fall to this fake site's scheme.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: matchi2011 on November 02, 2020, 01:59:53 PM
This is very important as just like what you have said, scam accusation thread are not being watch by many. With this catch it will bring attentions to every gamblers to check this of information before sending their money.

Not just for this site but for sure it bring awareness and from time to time checking sites and all information will be taking place.
Better than nothing and cried out when certain scam already happened.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: BlackFor3st on November 02, 2020, 06:16:16 PM
I am not so sure why they cannot do anything about the fake website, is there any legal entities where they can report the fake website
so it will be penalize either it will be shutdown by the web host or any similar action that they can do.

Because not all the players can be reminded especially the new comers therefore they must do something about it if they are indeed serious
in taking out those fake websites aside from their statement that they can do is to remind only the users not to fall for any schemes. For OP,
you've done good so there will be less victims that will fall to this fake site.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Yaunfitda on November 02, 2020, 07:00:10 PM
I am not so sure why they cannot do anything about the fake website, is there any legal entities where they can report the fake website
so it will be penalize either it will be shutdown by the web host or any similar action that they can do.
I think they can do that, reporting it directly to the domain registrar as others are doing and it will put more weight and pressure on the domain registrar because the one that should report it is the original website themseves.

Because not all the players can be reminded especially the new comers therefore they must do something about it if they are indeed serious
in taking out those fake websites aside from their statement that they can do is to remind only the users not to fall for any schemes. For OP,
you've done good so there will be less victims that will fall to this fake site.
It's really hard to distinguished if you look at the fake and real website. Very very similar in design color and everything, 99% copycat except for the subtle difference that @serjent05 pointed out.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Lanatsa on November 02, 2020, 11:35:30 PM
at first glance it's they really looks the same so i think some people would really fall for this site. good thing you've shared it in the gambling community nice catch op.

I also look at the two sites, they are almost identical except for that metamask option, the fonts size, the domain of the fake site being not secured, and not mentioning the domain name itself.  Also, there is no bet counter on the fake site though newbies won't probably notice these differences.  So it is a good thing OP did create this thread to warn us and not fall to this fake site's scheme.
This hadn't been a new issue anymore yet there are already thousands of scam and including this kind of scheme where they do tend to phish out by using up
popular website by fooling people into same design and domain name with a little bit of alteration but not that noticeable.
For people who do love on google search then most likely be the victim of these.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: harizen on November 02, 2020, 11:47:50 PM

Looks like an abandoned site and just leaves it like that for scam attempt. The majority of the links aren't working and for a first-time visitor, they should have a question of why the site is like that and will result in not trusting it. Hopefully, while it stays abandon for long, there's no recorded scam happened before.

Somehow, the official and legit site should have an active community here for new notices such as these fake sites. Their official Twitter page isn't that active and I can't search their Telegram group.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Ayiranorea on November 02, 2020, 11:59:31 PM
Oh Man, the fake looks same as the original without any difference. The color pattern too is matched better. I've come across such fake sites being used to trap traders creating similar fake exchange websites. This is the first time with a gambling site replica developed to hack the gamblers taking their login credentials.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: seoincorporation on November 03, 2020, 04:08:45 AM
There are two ways to report this site:

Code:
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse@godaddy.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1.4806242505

The ones who have to report it are the owners of dice 2 win. Let's hope they can stop them before they scam some users with their phishing site.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: btc_angela on November 03, 2020, 05:00:03 AM
So far this is what I got from GoDaddy:

Quote
Thanks for submitting your report.

We can't guarantee any particular outcome, but we'll review your complaint and contact you only if necessary.

So nothing concrete as of this time, our goal is to take this down, regardless if this is abandoned or not.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: VanityWallets2015 on November 03, 2020, 06:34:44 AM
Nice catch! I visited the fake website and it looks like it is similar to the original if the player was not really careful they could be easily victim by this fake website.
I've seen that we can report it to godaddy. I think I should do my part and send them a message maybe if we all do this they would be able to prioritize this.
It's still operating, we should be very careful to this kind of fake gambling sites.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: sempak on November 03, 2020, 07:49:22 AM
Also funny to see that they are just using a Gmail account and haven't even bothered to use a decent domain for their email traffic. It is a form of scamming / phishing, but a really badly executed version.
See screenshot
https://i.imgur.com/rFa4vbk.jpg


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 03, 2020, 07:51:53 AM
In relation to fake online gambling related websites: I have found 2.

[Scam]: Another fake bustabit site (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275042.0)
[Scam]: A fake Bustabit website (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5270613.0)


Maybe we just scratch the surface here, as there could be a lot of fake online gambling sites that cyber criminals are emulating. In any case, this is a good catch, maybe we can used this thread to bump or update it if we find another similar looking and phishing sites.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: reliable on November 03, 2020, 09:55:50 AM
OP - This is well done because it does look so similar and infact anybody would easily fall for it as an original site itself. But exposing such fake sites is so much necessary because they could just spoil the entire image of the original site and can just scam the people. This just make us now more aware regarding it.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Darkelf11 on November 03, 2020, 12:00:54 PM
Thank you for letting us know. I already encountered other website with same concept like that. We really can't tell the difference of both sites if we will not look closely and check its url. Most of the fake websites offer you promo codes then let you play and win. It is already set to let you win and before you can withdraw, you will be asked to deposit some bitcoins or any other coins to the site. Don't fall for these traps. Always make sure that you are entering the real site.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: jossiel on November 03, 2020, 09:07:21 PM
Thank you OP.

The fake website is not secure as per browser and that's already one factor of doubting it.

Also funny to see that they are just using a Gmail account and haven't even bothered to use a decent domain for their email traffic. It is a form of scamming / phishing, but a really badly executed version.
I have also noticed their email, it should be their companies domain email not just @gmail.com.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: DabsPoorVersion on November 03, 2020, 10:20:54 PM
Well done OP,

Since not anyone can determine a fake website, this will probably help a lot to avoid being scam. And btw, there are some flaws on this fake website like they are using gmail which can be seen by any users, in that case, we should actually be suspicious enough and start avoiding it.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on November 03, 2020, 10:32:57 PM
This is very usefull for us as a gambler, especially for those who like dice gambling.

The gambling is really same, for me I can differentiate where a real site and where a clone/scam site because I have no experience to play dice in that site.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: CaVO32 on November 03, 2020, 11:35:38 PM
Well done OP,

Since not anyone can't determine a fake website, this will probably help a lot to avoid being scam. And btw, there are some flaws on this fake website like they are using gmail which can be seen by any users, in that case, we should actually be suspicious enough and start avoiding it.

You're right, and the first thing that you will see on their webpage is install your metamask if you haven't yet. The legit one, they will not ask you to.

Also, if you will check at the bottom of the page, they have slight difference. They are using the infodice2win even with their telegram and twitter accts. You can check the difference if you will check the links in both sites.

The fake one -

http://dice2win.co/
https://i.postimg.cc/MZs4DwfJ/Screen-Shot-2020-11-04-at-7-34-08-AM.png


The legit -

https://dice2.win/
https://i.postimg.cc/vHkNJvvP/Screen-Shot-2020-11-04-at-7-34-55-AM.png


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Chikito on November 04, 2020, 01:12:39 AM
The gambling is really same, for me I can differentiate where a real site and where a clone/scam site because I have no experience to play dice in that site.
1 (one) thing you should know, whatever (gambling or any website). Phishing always asks you to input a mnemonic seed or private key where you don't need it on a real website.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: michellee on November 04, 2020, 06:21:21 AM
This is very usefull for us as a gambler, especially for those who like dice gambling.

The gambling is really same, for me I can differentiate where a real site and where a clone/scam site because I have no experience to play dice in that site.
As long as you don't try with the new site you don't know, you will be safe from the scam. Remember not to try big money on a new site if you don't want to risk losing the money. But you can search for the welcome bonus on that new site to try the site. It will be better to test the site first before you use your real money to playing gambling. We already have many recommended gambling sites, which do not scam us into playing gambling, but we still need to be careful to use your money to play gambling.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: bunglor on November 04, 2020, 08:06:02 AM
if you are the guy who doesn't do some checking and not too careful you would not really notice the difference of the two sites, good thing there are users like the OP who shared it here for the our good and safety. nice catch OP


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Kemarit on November 06, 2020, 03:08:21 AM
if you are the guy who doesn't do some checking and not too careful you would not really notice the difference of the two sites, good thing there are users like the OP who shared it here for the our good and safety. nice catch OP

Yeah, that's why we need to have a security practice so that this kind of scheme could be avoided. Although for sure, majority are not doing any kind of check until it's too late, because it's hard to differentiate the fake site just be looking at it visually because the UI is very close to the original.

There are just small difference, and again, for experts or who have at least some experience, like no SSL certificate, it could raise an alarm. Nevertheless, this is very interesting catch by the OP and it's good that he share it here.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: nakamura12 on November 06, 2020, 03:37:01 PM
Nice thinking op that you posted it here. I think some new gamblers didn't check in the scam accusations that much so posting it here will help them be careful with this fake site. Well, some might say that you should move this thread to the right board but newbies knowing this fake site is much better as long as you are helping others.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Chikito on November 07, 2020, 01:02:00 AM
if you are the guy who doesn't do some checking and not too careful you would not really notice the difference of the two sites, good thing there are users like the OP who shared it here for the our good and safety. nice catch OP
As I mentioned above, if the website needs to connect to Metamask it only needs a password, it doesn't need to input a mnemonic phrase where scammer can access your wallet, It's that's a big difference between a fake and a real website (i.e dice2.win).

In real Metamask, a fox will follow your cursor also. You have noticed it if you find it similar to this.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Twinkledoe on November 07, 2020, 11:59:31 PM
if you are the guy who doesn't do some checking and not too careful you would not really notice the difference of the two sites, good thing there are users like the OP who shared it here for the our good and safety. nice catch OP
As I mentioned above, if the website needs to connect to Metamask it only needs a password, it doesn't need to input a mnemonic phrase where scammer can access your wallet, It's that's a big difference between a fake and a real website (i.e dice2.win).

In real Metamask, a fox will follow your cursor also. You have noticed it if you find it similar to this.

Asking to input your mnemonic phrase is very clear the site is scamming you. I reported this site to google also. But they are still up. Wonder how long they need to act on the report and how many people should report this site.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: Yamifoud on November 08, 2020, 10:47:15 AM
Nice catch! I visited the fake website and it looks like it is similar to the original if the player was not really careful they could be easily victim by this fake website.
I've seen that we can report it to godaddy. I think I should do my part and send them a message maybe if we all do this they would be able to prioritize this.
It's still operating, we should be very careful to this kind of fake gambling sites.

Scammers are very smart enough in regards to copying. They look ultimately similar to the original and if we are not familiar with the legit one or hearing this warning, it for sure there's a lot of gamblers will fall into this trick. I might consider myself one of them but thankful to OP have this catch before worse had come to others, especially for newcomers.

This serves as a lesson for everyone. Not all have that kind of detection especially when they are that kind of smart doing. And this urges gamblers to spend more time digging for information before using their site.


Title: Re: FAKE dice2.win
Post by: worldofcoins on November 19, 2020, 08:15:06 AM
I visit the comparative site last night and won 0.0005 btc and guess what they request to store some cash so as to pull out your triumphant sum.
First I planned to store my cash however I figured it should better in the event that I do some exploration by survey the audits and I came to realize these sites are only a Ponzi plot that depends on your store cash.

So I get familiar with one thing that you ought to consistently do some research prior to placing your cash in any betting site