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So look like faster we get loans the faster restrictions will be removed.

Vaccanices are just side money and I dont think anyone will force anyone to take vaccanices.
World is run as business as big corporation so its not make people in stress too much!!
The whole point is to make sure life is sustainable and people are productive.

All this fears and conspiracyy theories are not serious!
Its all about just money and business!
All what the bankers want most is just to Open economy and give out  loans so our economy can go 10x more!
The bankers the elite want bull run I dont think they keep markets dowm too long.

Will be all good you people worry about too much let our Masters the bankers take care of this.

I Trust them becouse they been running world long time so I guess they know what to do.
I dont ever think they will do vaccanices forcement That's Bad for their reputation if they make people Against them then its harder to Rule let the people be happy enought and all easy!


Give Middle class the Dream of wealth by giving them credit loans... So the option to borrow from future... All good all happy :)

So anyone who can think logically knows no Reason to worry about as covid wars Everything is just a part of the business as usual.

@OP, at least correct the spelling of vaccine in your post.  :P


There is no conspiracy behind having this covid pandemic. What we are experiencing is real. Of course, there will be business in between, but we can't avoid in this life. So to move on, we do need this vaccine to at least go back to semi-normal environment.

For every scenario or events there's always a conspiracy theory, even the landing in the moon is considered a conspiracy theory, it's easy to think that it's a conspiracy theory, when only a small groups are involved, but when you have billions of people exposed to it and involved I don't think you can think of that way.

Loan = good = happy is a terrible equation. The truth is more like loan = evil = sad.

As a matter of fact, loans are more or less a trap. Banks and other lending entities have been playing the role of loan sharks in the past decades. They've made enormous amounts of money out of borrowers. They've acquired assets from those who defaulted.

Middle income families are better off avoiding loans. I've personally witnessed families who are trapped in debts that they end up paying them all throughout their lives.

What country are you in? How much in loans are they giving out? What's the rate?

"Giving out loans" isn't usually how it works unless the bank is lending out the money for super cheap. OR...are you saying that this pandemic is causing people to go poor, therefore they have to take out loans?

What's the scenario you're seeing?

I don't think these scenarios are realistic, i don't see them happening...

(1) Banks don't like to give out loans for low interest rates...the rates are how they make their money, and

(2) People who don't have income don't get granted loans because, well, they don't have much income and can't pay back the loan.

The biggest fear of a bank is not getting the money they loaned out paid back.

So if this is a conspiracy there's a lot of people involved to generate some loans for people that aren't really capable of paying them back. All the people involved "keeping the secret". Seems like a lot of effort for a fairly risk proposition. Doesn't make sense to me. The right answer is usually the simplest answer, remember that.

The bank as the bogeyman is a tired cliche. Nobody forces anyone to take a loan. The reason consumers do it is because it's a benefit to them to do so. You could wait 20 years until you have enough money to buy a house without debt, or you could buy it now and pay it off over 30 years while living in it instead of paying rent to someone else that doesn't build your own equity in the property.  All loans aren't bad, it's lazy and wrong to present them as such.

To stabilize the economy governments have been providing loans to create good circulation of money. This way the covid-19 is related to the governments act. Right now the sufferers were the people who are with need, but weren't able to request help to anyone. What has happened in the world isn't pure business, but some are making money out of the covid-19 crisis.

That's nonsense.

Debt records have been broken every year around the world. There is more and more debt.

With the COVID, even more debt was taken on. The difference is that this debt is more difficult to pay, because many people have lost their jobs, companies have seen their profits reduced, etc. in other words, the ability to repay is lower.

And you say that when more loans are taken out the COVID crisis will be over? Taking loans never stopped.

Believe me Banks dont care if you Can't pay back!
Its even better they can take your assets

You guys need to undestood its business!
If more people struggle more profit can be made

If you study the US economy, the volume of the retail lending market exceeds 80% of the country's GDP. Most of the population is already under credit.
10 percent of Americans are confident they will die in debt!
https://zen.yandex.ru/media/creditblog/dolg-rossiian-po-kreditam-k-nachalu-2020-goda-5e002717118d7f00ad442a71

In America and most European countries, people live in credit slavery, and I am shocked by such statistics

Are you never read a news about bank arrested or sue a debtor? and it could also make him/her got jailed.

Anyway if bank don't care about that, we don't need to work since we can easily take a loan from bank. :D

Bankers make money out of giving loans.
If you have house car... They take it from you!
So Simple :)

The prosperty what we had its illusion!
Specially Middle class dont produce nothing dont really Help the society!
All those data entry office jobs the 9-5 data entry Middle class jobs must go If the debt bubble will pop!!

OP you need to do some reworks on your post specially on spelling part. There are already many theories regarding the covid-19 and vaccine. We should not consider it over for now, because the vaccine need to be a completely effective on everyone without side effect or at lest with less side effect also they need to produce the vaccine in all over the world and this won't be easy, this will take time. Surly, taking loans is the best idea no matter if they find a real vaccine or not, since you know what do you want to do with the money and where to invest your money taking loan is profitable.

Vaccasines not imortant
The vaccasines are just Pocket money for bankers.
The real money is when people are productive and do more with less.

Loans ? Over ?
I really cannot get over the fact that the government is engaging people in taking loans for their business and their families, which inturn with no jobs will cause catastrophic instances. People won't be able to pay back loans , they will have to give higher interest, ( I am aware of the fact that some banks are giving 0% interest on loan but that's a few ) , now this will mean that without jobs people will keep accumulating it every year.
The government should engage people in taking up jobs and they should give more job openings. But I don't think there is any conspiracy theory since this pandemic have affected the government and the people alike , if they did have vaccination they would have used , since the faster the people recover , the faster will the economy recover. They won't for sure hold the vaccinations.

Don't try to blame the government when you're not in their place. Their job is to make the best of the economy, which is the most important thing that needs to be dealt with so that people don't live in economic crisis. When the country is attacked by the covid virus, that is something no one wants to happen, but we still have to unite to fight it.
Besides, banks are just doing their best so that people can get the money on time and they just want the economy not to be recession! Don't think too negatively, no one wants your country to be in crisis :)

Yes, the banks offer to people to get loans, but not all people want to take a loan because they realize that if they can not pay the loan, the bank can take over their assets, as you said. People are now suffering and many patients at the hospital need help from the vaccine. The government is still trying to get the vaccine. I don't think that the covid is over because the vaccine is not ready until now. Maybe it will ready in the month or next year. If people can survive in this pandemic, they don't need to take loans from the bank because they can make money in many ways, even if that is hard to do. Maybe some people will take a loan from the bank if they think that they can solve their problem financially, but not all of them will do the same.

Banks have suffered a lot due to the effects of the virus so they have now arranged low-interest loans is not a conspiracy but their economy is trying to rise again. As many loans as people take the banks will grow with saplings. Many people are suffering from a financial crisis in which they will start a small business and get a loan from a bank to restore their financial status. if the loan is not given on time will bring a lot of risk dealing with the situation will be according to ability.

You have yours and I have mine look what’s I have on the table

Conspiracy on DOW

Every time a company in US go broke and get bailout by the US, it add a little value into the DOW, because money are taken out from the DOW to rescue the company. In the other words more company go broke and crying on DOW the Save The World indices for bailing out, it add a little debt into the DOW account book.

Break down of DOW

D = debt
O = owned
W = Wall Street

Basically Debt Owned by the Wall Street to the company that go broke and accepted bailout.

The more company go broke the higher the DOW debt grow, currently the number of DOW are as high as the many company that go broke and needing bailout to rescue.

You bet on DOW going higher, you bet on more company going broke! That’s why DOW need to go to absolutely the moon, it’s inevitable all company goes broke eventually and add into the DOW tallies, a big number on DOW is a bench mark of sorrow, darkness and hopeless, the doom number.

Looks like this pandemic virus didn't affect your country, you wouldn't have make blind conclusions but let me be real with you buddy, covid-19 is serious as hell.
I'm really affected and the fear isn't just a conspiracy theory to joke with in the first place. We were locked down for six good months without access to activities outside which affected everyone and business. There was also  rise in general price of goods and services as inflation till today.
You think bank is still the solution? Centralization everytime, why don't you we allow and give chance to Decentralized environment and see if it will really workout.
The average man you are talking about, banks wouldn't consider because they lack networking and inexperienced in this field. You hardly see a free spot job that requires newbie. Why would an average person even take loan to start a business that he/she doesn't have experience about, just like digging a timing bomb for the first time.

While it is completely obvious that those at the very top will always try to get their way and to push the scenarios that benefit them I think it's a stretch to try to say that they had benefited from the coronavirus, no one really wins when something like this happens because even after the pandemic is over and the vaccine is applied to a great number of people many are still going to be afraid and are not going to spend the money as they used to.

And without a doubt this bad for the economy long term, and yes I know that the stock market has recovered already but that is not really a measurement of economic recovery because there are many circumstances in which the economy could be doing awful and the stock market is pumping and I think this is one of those scenarios.

The reason why banks want you to take out loans is the simple fact that we put our money in them and they give us money for it and they need to make it back somehow which is basically either own other companies or give out loans.

Now assuming there is a bank and people put 100 billion dollars into it, they give lets say 4% return on that so they need to have 104 billion by the end of the year right? How do they do it? If they end up giving back in loans at 10% a year, that means they will have 110 billion at the end of the year, and that extra 6 billion is their profit.

So, obviously if banks take your money, they also want to give you money, that is how the system works. The other option is to go out and buy another company, that way they could spend the money on something that will constantly profit them.

All loans aren't bad, I agree. But I don't agree that nobody forces anyone to take a loan. You are not physically forced to take a loan, of course. Nobody is pulling you out of your house and forcibly bring you to the bank to take a loan. But if you take a look at most people's circumstances, their dreams of a better life are seemingly attached to loans.

As you've pointed out, you need to take a loan if you want to build a roof over your head, that is, if you don't want to wait for decades to be able to build one yourself. People take loans to be able to send their children to college. People take loans to buy a car. People take loans to start a little business. Hell, in my country, which mirrors the situation in most countries in the world, people even take loans to be able to buy a television set.

I don't agree with the conspiracy thingy about COVID-19 but I do agree that it's all about business as of now to slowly raise the Economy.

Here in our country, every people that's been hospitalized are automatically will be a COVID-19 patient, especially if he dies, the hospital will insist to say that it was COVID-19 therefore they could get more money by cremating the corpse, and so many more scenarios. It's really funny what's happening to the whole wide world right now, humanity doesn't exist anymore. Riches only care about getting more rich, politicians only cares about stealing people's money, and people are taking advantages of the current situation we have right now to have fake donations to scam people.

But I'm still hoping we could still make it until the end. So many bad things happened in 2020.

I don't think covid will be over once we take loans from banks because until now, the government is still trying to get the vaccine by waiting for the scientist to finish their test for every phase before the vaccine is distributed to many patients. The banks now offer loans to people to start their business or do something with that money, so the economy in that country can rise again. But it is hard to take loans if we don't know what we will do with that money and how we can repay the money to the banks.

If you already have a plan, and you know what you're going to do with that money, you can take the loans and start with your plan, so you can run a new business that can give you hope to make money in this pandemic. But you don't have to force yourself to take the loans if you are not sure you know what you want because that can make you in trouble if you can't pay the money.

All this situation is harmful for banks too and several loans will not help them to save their business. These conditions are too risky to be made by bankers

Much better to find ways to help instead of pointing fngers who's to blame, this pandemic is not being expected by most countries
who are affected by this virus.

The government are trying to work on it and keep the state to survive, those who are blaming them needs to realize that government
can' handle this alone but they needed to be helped by everyone.

Loans are available to cope up with and try to move forward after this problem.

Loans aren't necessarily bad.The real problem is how do people use those loans.If you get a loan and use the money to invest and grow a successful business,there's no problem.
If you get a loan and waste the money on expensive goods,smartphones and things you don't need,etc. then of course loans are bad.
The covid pandemic has little to do with getting loans.I don't know from where did OP got the idea,that people,who take loans will face less restrictions?This sounds like nonsense to me.

Don't you guys tired about all of these conspiracies...

I do but thinking all of those makes sense correlation in each different situation makes me feel entertained! Thanks for providing these information, i just love to think about it but not to trust it , there's too much speculation in it with very limited data to provide .. make it more to a baseless conspiracy in my point of view to be honest.

Thats the problem mate! They run everything and they know how to trick everyone. The bankers are wild bull dogs who will scratch out every single penny from your pocket if you have gotten loans on you. Have you ever seen banks discontinuing the loans just because you can't repay it?? No man, they are devils in that field.

Also FYI: Covid is not over yet. There gonna be world's biggest second wave of corona on the way. Vaccines can't help so much easily! It will take more than 3 years to vaccinate each and every person on the earth. It's not so easy to speculate this way.

a lot of people think this pandemic is a conspiracy every major problem will always be associated with the global elite I don't really care what they do reduce the number of people who are no longer productive whether it's all real I think it's not and I think it's all purely and it's real if it's a pandemic This is made into a business, it has happened, everyone wants to survive in whatever way this pandemic is made to obtain wealth, it is certain that some people who want to get a lot of money will do everything.

Well, we have to understand that for every problem there will be opportunities attached to it. In this pandemic the whole world is into, this can be a big opportunity for many business entities to make money because of the heightened demands of many things, actually not just the vaccines. With the pandemic, things are turning upside down. Of course, there are losers but there are also winners. That can be obvious right now. By next year, the recovery phase will start and which economy can be leading the pack that is something to look forward to. As of now, it is China that is the big winner and many other nations still trying their best to get up.

I do not get it covid will be removed once we take loan? Maybe you are talking about the insurance that included in the interest rate tha you need to pay for it. If this happen then I am sure that insurance company are also taking advantage on the individuals taking loans. I do not like how the insurance work they can be easy to apply but when you need their insurance they are making it hard by asking many requirement or sometimes delaying their benefits to their members.

Debt is not something business' care about as much as you would think. Depending on the business, having debt would mean growing bigger and when you grow bigger you make more money or at least that is what your aim would be when you take out a loan.

For example, you are a company that makes 1 million dollar per month profit, you take out a 50 million dollar loan and suddenly you are making 2 million dollar profit thanks to it, that means you would be paying your loan back in 50 months with the extra profit you make but after the debt is cleared you would be now profiting 2 million and have no debt. Obviously if this works well for you, before you finish your first loan you will take another loan and grow your business even bigger and keep doing this forever to keep growing.

Conspiracy about this pandemic isn't convincing for people, government and economy have suffered.  First world or rich countries did suffer as well, but some were just able to recover easily from an economic recession, and considering that covid 19 as plotted by a few which makes banks beneficial by gaining more borrowers is hard to believe.  I may only consider this as speculation for not everyone can apply and get approved on loans.

Banks is also an industry and run as a business that needs to earn profit and if they just lend money to everyone without assurance of getting paid back then they will undergo bankruptcy in the end.  Vaccine IMO will remain the best solution for every individual because it can somehow bring back the norms that we get used to prior to this pandemic.

It is unlikely that the world government, or whatever they call them, would have created such a conspiracy that went to their own detriment. Today, HCE suffers and only an independent person has a chance to survive. And in this case, you need to live far from civilization.

Please correct if something is wrong with my statement.

In my opinion, in the Covid 19 case, it is actually a legitimate conspiracy, because in essence there are parties behind this, in order to fulfill the interests of certain groups, especially in the economic business sector.

second, it is true that COVID-19 is real and this is proven by the number of victims who have fallen and supported by hospital data. Even though there are several hospitals that manipulate data, for the sake of a vaccine business that requires everyone who wants to apply for a job, they must have a health certificate from the hospital that the person is free from the corona virus. and making the letter costs a lot.

Regardless of whether it is true or not, I personally tend to both, where Covid exists and it is made into an economic business conspiracy.

I'm always hearing a lot of them saying about the pandemic as a conspiracy theory. No to mention how this pandemic gave difficulty to those people who have experienced it personally and to those who have lost their loved ones. But as the vaccines are coming its trials and there were few who have said to be almost effective 100%, it is not for free so as usual we will think of it as a business. Business or not, buy the vaccine if you want to avoid the virus.

Conspiracy theories again and again, despite he fact that millions die everyday because of this stupid virus. But go ahead, exercise your patriotism, don't wear a mask, and become part of the casualties.

COVID-19 is bigger than the vaccines our government's been waiting for. New Zealand for exame had eradicated their cases and is already running stable even without the aid of a vaccine. That is what you call GOOD GOVERNANCE. So next time make sure you vote for someone who understands Science.

I will not say categorically, but it seems to be incredibly difficult and almost impossible to create a vaccine with one hundred percent effectiveness, especially in the case of coronavirus. About the free of charge of the vaccine itself. The vaccine cannot be free in principle, because you have to spend money on development and production, and no one will deal with such issues for free. Therefore, everything depends on the position of state authorities and how much they are willing to pay for such expenses. In theory, the widespread introduction of the vaccine will protect against unnecessary costs in health care and will allow for less losses in the economy.

We cannot be sure whether this is a conspiracy or not, which is clear in this case, which has been affected all over the world, even though the government has tried hard to implement health protocols in various ways, so it remains the principle of naughty citizens because they do not obey and go anywhere that's what keeps the spread spreading.

The mask is very important for us to wear because it is to maintain our immune system. I don't want to do stupid things like you say because in every country there are different ways to get rid of it.

With vaccines I'm also not really sure but I suspect there are trade practices between countries to generate more profits.

If after everyone takes the loan the virus will end then, i think ... you believe with conspiracy theories.  taking a loan without being able to return it then they will only lose.... not that simple this virus will end. because the impact is not only on the economic sector, but on health, education, and people's habits.

indeed when this virus spreads many conspiracy theories that might make sense but you have to be able to filter which ones are right and which are not, maybe you can find the truth first so that you won't be affected by bad things like other conspiracies, at least life will be better if not take a loan with an amount that exceeds our ability.

To take loan the banks want you to pay back at least  50%  to take credit you dont have to pay back nothing.
Credit is not real money!
Loans are there to create money so without loans we will not have any money!!
But credit is not real

Borrowing money from banks is not the best solution to recovering the economy in a pandemic situation like now.
Especially providing middle class credit loans, it can add to new problems if they can't take advantage of the loan money.
Then there is no guarantee that take loans will end COVID19, I still think vaccine is the most effective way to make COVID19 end.
Because it is very important to be able to stop the spread of the virus with vaccine, rather than restoring the economy with borrowed money.

That’s actually partly correct, making thing complicated, confusing, and FUD has always been a tactic used to win a battle, although nobody can fully agree indexes are completely honest, they’re too another player in the battling room, there is time indexes make sense but that’s already no longer true after the market crashes, since then indexes has been manipulated to confuse, for a reason to win the battle at all cost, it is too big to fail too costly to fail, a horrible outcome ensured when indexes fail, if the indexes is honest from the beginning, bitcoin wouldn’t existed, because why? Who know there is even a truth, thing are just too confusion yet the profit are great, just make sure the profit keep coming, nobody care it’s misleading, spreading FUD is profitable, being honest is quickly resort to getting abused, can we blame the elite for being too smart to profiting on confusion?

I will be soooo disappointed and angry if I find out that "Big business" and "Bankers" are behind this whole "Covid" epidemic. There are a lot of people with conspiracy theories, saying that this virus was created in a lab and distributed by large Pharmaceutical companies and also countries to generate income for these people and also a form of population control.

Also, the idea that this virus was part of a grand scheme to create panic and fear and force citizens to stay indoors and to cripple the economy, sounds more realistic every day. (Stock exchanges was saturated and there was little opportunities to make a profit and now these shares and stock prices has virtually collapsed and left more opportunity for traders to make some more profit again)

The catch.... only the people in the inner circle, would know what was going to happen and they sold their shares and commodities before it happened.    ::)

Bro what you have to know is that every situation has people that it benefits. There are people who are going to use it as a business opportunity, but that doesn’t mean that the situation is not real. Coronavirus is not a fake news, it’s something real and it has wasted a lot of lives, so it’s real.

Just because you’re seeing people doing business with it and all that is happening doesn’t make it fake, it’s real man. Same thing you’re saying here, I have seen a lot of people that are saying it in my country, some of them are saying that it’s just the government that is lying to the people. But that’s totally wrong, this is not a situation that we should be making fun of.

Don’t we think the world has changed too much since 2008? In today society, everybody resort to collusion at some point which is not usual, I remember the time internet was primitive the internet is rarely full of collusion, political crap, sexist, racist, hackers, whatever, it’s all about collusion today, the economy didn’t crash the life goes on, people are not turn back to start a nuclear war, but people are too smart with money, anybody can count how much money in their wallet, they can count 1 to 10, because anybody is too smart with money, bank run keep happening, people keep money in bank then they take out the money from bank, and bank faces a huge cash flow problem because they’re unable to dispense cash at will, all are given out as loan to business, but people continued to pump money in and out of the bank which make the entire banking unable to run their business as loan provider, and this shit has been going on for 50 years people continue to pump in and out of bank, today people non stop pump in and pump out of crypto, because the same people are smart they can count money precisely, financial system has a reason to make people dumb, dumb people are more willing to apart with their money, but too bad all people are smart with numbers, all can count from 1 to 10, can count the dollar bill precisely without fail, every kid can know what colour is the 1 dollar bill, too smart, bank run won’t stop, economy won’t fail, life goes on, collusion follow, new world order follow, and virus come together in collusion based economy.

Indeed. This COVID-19 is not all about politics or about the government raising money. Many people are struggling and having huge loans just to save their businesses and to provide the daily needs of their family during the pandemic, that is why it is not a joke or not taking it seriously. If this pandemic will continue next year of 2021, only huge companies will last long such as Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon, etc because other companies will have huge debts and will not be able to pay all of it.

If you want proof of that, then wait for the time to come soon where there will be a list of names of human beings who have a drastic increase in wealth after this pandemic ends.  Indeed, whatever happens, it will not be separated from the existence of a conspiracy theory.  It naturally looks realistic to us because we are only pawns of every event unless we have a position and power so maybe we can be part of the conspiracy.

I agree. There is a process that these vaccines are created and they spend money for its creation and mass production. I'm not expecting it to be free unless your government will do it for you but for individuals that can avail to buy one once it's out of the market, buy it for your own sake. As long as the success rate and percentage of the vaccine is above 50% which the news said it was around 90%-94% then that's considerably working and a relief.

This is such a backwards way to look at how economies work and is yet another conspiracy theory type idea that makes no sense. The world (and individual countries) go through a constant cycle of boom and bust. It has been working this way for decades, if not centuries, and will continue into the forseeable future. When times are good, money flows easily and people also spend it because credit is cheap. When the economic cycle reverses or in extreme stress situations like a global pandemic, it can shock the economy into a recession - where businesses want to protect their money and credit becomes much harder to acquire. In actual fact, in direct contradiction to your claim, it is actually much harder to take loans out in the current climate and this changed shortly after the effects of Covid were clear. Banks only want to lend to people who they know can pay it back, it is totally against their interests to extend a loan to people who are losing their jobs - which is happening on a mass scale right now.

My government announce already that the vaccine will only be free to the poor and those middle class and rich person have to pay for that vaccine so they can be healed but of course we know how corrupt government works so for sure there’s still an exception for this one. If you have a business now is a good time to take loans since the interest is low and maybe its easy to apply for a loan with so much consideration from the banks.

If you need the money, take the loan. But if you don't have anything to spend it on, that will only sum up to your debt which isn't good. It sounds good to loan because interest rates are way lower than it is before.
But if you don't anything important to use it on, I don't think that doesn't make sense. Although taking the loans will also help the economy recover but for my sake, I've never thought adding debt.

Taking loans is sounds good because you can get money instantly from a loan shark or a banks and other government agency but what is the purpose of your loan? If you just take a loans and spend it without valid purpose then you still have no good job because of this covid then I think you just make another trouble in your life finding a way to pay your loans with high interest. That's not a goad way to move on unless you have a great plan for your loan like using for investment or to put up even a small business , but it is still not a guaranty that you can earn a lot, it is still full of risk. So, much better to avoid taking loans if not necessary.

What happened to us is not just a fabrication or a joke, many lives have been wasted because of the virus that has greatly damaged the economy of many countries. It's easy to say that it's a conspiracy theory and there's so many speculations behind it, but take a look at it there are millions of people are affected and even high profile people are affected too. They offering loans because they want people to recover and build their livelihood again, and if you are planning to have some loan make sure you will spend it wisely or put it in a business that will give you profit.

Its better to be decisive in these trying times. Covid-19 is real and millions are dying and adding more daily. Though its seems new cases are declining but still millions are suffering. Conspiracy stories are there we cant control that, and I hope government will be guided scientifically  and can render decision base on facts and what's happening. I am okay with loans as long as it is necessary and badly needed to curve the spread of these virus.

What?! So you are trying to say that the current pandemic and its effects on our life and economy are all hoax? Nah, I don't think so. How ironic that you tell it a conspiracy, how about your conclusions lol? Dude try to watch news and you will see the truth. My advice tor you is to have a reality check :).
Indeed. Getting loans should be everyone's last resort in these hard times. If you can get part time jobs, do it. If you can sell handicrafts, do it. If you can sell your talents then much better. Find other ways of earning first before going to loaning because that would only be a temporary solution. Your debts will go bigger and bigger if you depend on such way.

Since the beginning of Covid, the media have always exaggerated so that it seems everyone is scared and it has happened everywhere it seems that it has made people think that this coronavirus is very dangerous and does look like a very deadly virus, many people are afraid of all this and time has passed people tend not to really care about conspiracy theories to be a big question mark to believe things like that I more believe that this coronavirus really exists and this disease is real.

Wow, the way of explaining is pretty cool and the reality is already explained. Yes this is happening to us and we are the victim for taking loans from the bank and you can find out some case study about their behavior on searching in Google.

But everything has two sides and I believe that in this time no one will show such bravery to do this things with the vaccine as we are losing our favourite things for it in regular life.

Taking loans with a proper plan is good and safe way of tackling the virus but if you are indeed going to take loans without prior planning of how to pay the loans then it is even worst than getting infected with the corona virus. You will start feeling the heat with time when the borrowers will start troubling you for the repayment and I have been through such times when I had loans on my head so really don't take loans if you are not sure how you are going to repay them.

True, taking loans is like delaying your problems so how long can you delay the troubles? Maybe 1 year if you are lucky but life is long and you really cannot rely on delaying your problems or running away from them.

You need to get the facts right because the total deaths because of corona virus are around 1.3 million. So, if you are saying millions are dying daily then you are clearly wrong. I agree with you though that people are making conspiracy theories and some believe the virus is nothing but the government is spreading this hoax but the truth is that the virus is indeed deadly.

Yeah, but you need to agree to the fact that their population is really low and a country with small population is easier to control as compared to a country with dense population and specially Asian countries where slum areas are higher in density and the virus spreads much easier in such areas.

I have always thought that the top of a country is a representation of what the people is about and it is obvious that if there are presidents out there that believe that this is some kind of conspiracy or that the virus doesn't even exist that is a reflection of their population at large.

The coronavirus crisis that we are going through without a doubt has become a great challenge for people and governments alike however it could have been contained way more easily if people made the conscious decision of trying their best to not spread the virus even if they did not know if they had it, this is why we have countries in which they have not been that affected by the virus and we have other countries that have been severally affected by it and the only explanation that we can give for this to happen is the different attitude that people had when facing the virus.

I agree with you, we all could have managed to contain the corona virus much better. With a one time lock down of 4 weeks, with almost not social contact and following all the social distancing rules and safety measures. We should have stopped the spread of the virus. It's on all of us who didn't follow the rules. For example, in my country was one girl going out to party during the pandemic lockdown and making out with a lot of different guys over one weekend. Of course she tested positive in the end and spread the virus to a lot of different guys. If we would have contained these super spreaders we would have been much better off.

Countries like Vietnam, New Zealand, and a bunch of asian countries where we believe they would have trouble eradicating the virus are now well off and is in stable economy. Whereas countries that are way "well-off" than these countries are struggling to stop the pandemic on their end. It's all in good governance and proper education on the part of the public. If one doesn't agree, there will become a problem. And stop with these conspiracy theories telling COVID-19 is a hoax. It can be a weapon for all I care, but you can't say it's fake in front of the millions who are suffering from it and the hundreds of thousands that have already died across the globe.

Yes, COVID isn’t real because big companies, banks, and the govermments are collaborating about it. The numbers on dead and affected individuals are also padded and unreal, too, because it’s one giant symphony of lies orchestrated by the puppet masters.  ::)

We have been ignoring scientists and epidemiologists for far too long now, and forgot that viruses, pandemics and epidemics exist. Governments and banks are handing out loans like crazy because the governments were the ones enforcing the lockdowns in the first place, plus the fact that if they don’t do it, no money would circulate thus the economy is crippled. It’s basic cause-and-effect relationships really, and there isn’t any conspiracies that could be proven as to why spme random Chinaman decided to eat that bat shit soup in the first place.

COVID is real, our economy has taken a beating due to lockdowns and loans are one of the band-aid solutions to mitigate further damage to the economy.

There are several things that needed to consider since not everyone is capable to sustain their daily living if lockdown will be impose since not everyone is rich and can sit in their house in 4 weeks without worrying their foods in their tables. But if government can support his citizen for the said lockdown period then maybe this plan will happen.

As of now pfizer vaccine is at 95% working and I think they are finish with the test and doing a mass production. Hopefully they can distribute the vaccine so that everything will be back to normal.

Nah, I don't think covid was created for corporations to make profit and such. It was a natural disasters and spread globally, causing deaths of many highly rich people as well! There can be many conspiracy claim regarding this but so it can be for most other things, including life itself!

I agree there's no concrete evidence that will show that a particular corporation is making a profit from this pandemic, it's a worse kind of business making profit from the death and deterioration of the people, some companies are making profits, but these are not intentional, these are face mask maker, oxygen manufacturer, it's just so happen we need these in this pandemic.

I originally believed that COVID-19 was a human creation, because it spread very quickly throughout the world.
Unlike other viruses, but after seeing many people died and there were several surroundings affected by this virus,
COVID-19 is becoming more and more real to my eyes. I also just realized that COVID-19 is nature's way to improve
this world. because there has been a lot of evidence during COVID-19 that air quality has improved, humans also
live healthier.

Hehe, everybody has two choice, they either listen to conspiracy or listen to government propaganda, if they’re government guy they surely will hate bitcoin to the maxxx.

not all banks make such policies, I get information that in the Asian part of the country, almost all banks provide relief on debt repayments, they issue policies for pandemic mass, where debt deposits are given relief during the pandemic. and this at least provides relief for those who have already borrowed money. so during the pandemic they are not required to pay interest on the money borrowed, they simply pay the principal debt without exceeding and adding interest every month.

We can come into any conclusions based on the assumptions so all we can do is to apply our common sense and make most out of the current economic status because we are not alone in this here.

Covid vaccines are still a long way from the reality because mass production take years until that the fear will exists.

You are right and your speech is absolutely right. I appreciate with you. I wanna tell about my country. In my country Bitcoin is not legal. I think those people know about Bitcoin they are fan of it. If any government guy know about Bitcoin then they also will be a fan. They must be loved it.

I'm pretty sure that there are going to be books written about the subject, because it seems very counterintuitive, how is it possible that in many countries the virus seems to be under control and there are many other countries in which it is completely out of control? One possible explanation that they could give is that in those countries where the pandemic seems to be out of control there is a lot of testing for the virus and this gives the impression that are more people infected by it when in fact they are being affected like every other country, they just have more data.

However this argument does not hold up because there are many countries in which very heavy testing has taken place and yet they have control of the pandemic and the only explanation that I can find is that the people in those countries took the virus seriously and this reduced the strength of the pandemic significantly while in those other countries many people thought that it was a joke or a conspiracy theory and now they are paying the price of doing so.

Many people never still believe that covid-19 is real in the country with so much envidence we have see concerning covid-19 cases in the country.  Some people think the governor and president are trying to use the system to loot more money from the government account to enrich their self in the country. Many investors lost their life, during the pandemic that was causing many countries economy collapsing every day by day in the country, that is making the government, to reason how to bring the citizens out from hardship before the end of the year.
The government just discovered the vaccine to cure covid-19 is around the country, which is giving the citizens more joy in the country, hoping that soon they can return back to their business activities in the country. With the strategies the government has put in place in the country show Development has arrived in the country which will really help the citizens to live well in the country not to experience fear of covid-19 that is spreading all over the country.

I don't want to say that this thing is conspiracy because we have already seen many people died due to coronavirus. I only feel sorry for the poor people out there, they only rely on a courage to survive. They do not have a shield to fight, all they do is trying hard to find money to meet their daily needs.Yeah it will be different with for those rich people or at least the middle person they still comfortable to face this thing until now. They're just trying to hide yourself so as not to be exposed by the virus. If this virus involved with a business then this is the greatest genocide I have ever seen.

The poorest people within the society are most suffering from the virus while the center class are going to be ready to control everything after the top of Kovid, it'll take an extended time to recover the damage done to the poor. it's difficult to urge obviate this debt but if used properly are often good without risking. even as debt has put thousands of individuals on the road many became much richer and more advanced in life by using it wisely and intelligently. Now traders cannot go far without loans it's better to stay them hidden so as to measure in peace.

Yes making loans sometimes can help you earn if you used it properly and wisely but most of the time it will make your life more miserable. I already tried it but instead of profit it turned to my loses. That's why before making some loans you need to think it very well and think how you can use it. If you put it on trading then then you should know about trading very well. Remember it's easy to get loans but difficult to pay back specially if the amount you get is just bankrupt and you don't have other business or work to get money.

It is true that covid 19 has made our lives miserable but it would be better to take out a loan trade or invest to increase one's own capital and solve problems if you don't have much knowledge about trade it is better to invest and hold on. There will be no high risk of taking a loan here banks charge high interest rates for their own benefit which makes people very frustrated there is no interest here even if you have to wait a long time to invest it is possible to earn all the profit.

This is pointless to me because the bank and government is always looking for ways to mortgage the freedom and independence of the people and at that they seize every opportunity to enslave the middle class. Load can never improve the economy 10× as you said it rather plug the whole system into economy crisis.

I was very confused when I was reading your post at first because you kept saying vacancies, and I never realized that you meant vaccines until I went through the comments. I don’t really agree with this, if you put it this way, that means you’re trying to say that the government were aware and planned the Coronavirus or you’re trying to say that the coronavirus news is fake and was just fabricated by the government to put fear in people?

The virus is real and has killed a lot of people, a lot of people being ignorant because they have not experienced it yet so they feel it’s all lies. Don’t be one of such people. Of course things will get better now that the lockdown has been lifted.