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November 16, 2020, 10:14:44 PM
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Conspiracy theories again and again, despite he fact that millions die everyday because of this stupid virus. But go ahead, exercise your patriotism, don't wear a mask, and become part of the casualties.

COVID-19 is bigger than the vaccines our government's been waiting for. New Zealand for exame had eradicated their cases and is already running stable even without the aid of a vaccine. That is what you call GOOD GOVERNANCE. So next time make sure you vote for someone who understands Science.
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November 16, 2020, 11:08:41 PM
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I'm always hearing a lot of them saying about the pandemic as a conspiracy theory. No to mention how this pandemic gave difficulty to those people who have experienced it personally and to those who have lost their loved ones. But as the vaccines are coming its trials and there were few who have said to be almost effective 100%, it is not for free so as usual we will think of it as a business. Business or not, buy the vaccine if you want to avoid the virus.
I will not say categorically, but it seems to be incredibly difficult and almost impossible to create a vaccine with one hundred percent effectiveness, especially in the case of coronavirus. About the free of charge of the vaccine itself. The vaccine cannot be free in principle, because you have to spend money on development and production, and no one will deal with such issues for free. Therefore, everything depends on the position of state authorities and how much they are willing to pay for such expenses. In theory, the widespread introduction of the vaccine will protect against unnecessary costs in health care and will allow for less losses in the economy.
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November 16, 2020, 11:12:10 PM
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Conspiracy theories again and again, despite he fact that millions die everyday because of this stupid virus. But go ahead, exercise your patriotism, don't wear a mask, and become part of the casualties.

COVID-19 is bigger than the vaccines our government's been waiting for. New Zealand for exame had eradicated their cases and is already running stable even without the aid of a vaccine. That is what you call GOOD GOVERNANCE. So next time make sure you vote for someone who understands Science.
We cannot be sure whether this is a conspiracy or not, which is clear in this case, which has been affected all over the world, even though the government has tried hard to implement health protocols in various ways, so it remains the principle of naughty citizens because they do not obey and go anywhere that's what keeps the spread spreading.

The mask is very important for us to wear because it is to maintain our immune system. I don't want to do stupid things like you say because in every country there are different ways to get rid of it.

With vaccines I'm also not really sure but I suspect there are trade practices between countries to generate more profits.

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November 16, 2020, 11:46:19 PM
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If after everyone takes the loan the virus will end then, i think ... you believe with conspiracy theories.  taking a loan without being able to return it then they will only lose.... not that simple this virus will end. because the impact is not only on the economic sector, but on health, education, and people's habits.

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November 16, 2020, 11:49:10 PM
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If after everyone takes the loan the virus will end then, i think ... you believe with conspiracy theories.  taking a loan without being able to return it then they will only lose.... not that simple this virus will end. because the impact is not only on the economic sector, but on health, education, and people's habits.
indeed when this virus spreads many conspiracy theories that might make sense but you have to be able to filter which ones are right and which are not, maybe you can find the truth first so that you won't be affected by bad things like other conspiracies, at least life will be better if not take a loan with an amount that exceeds our ability.

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November 16, 2020, 11:50:51 PM
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If after everyone takes the loan the virus will end then, i think ... you believe with conspiracy theories.  taking a loan without being able to return it then they will only lose.... not that simple this virus will end. because the impact is not only on the economic sector, but on health, education, and people's habits.



To take loan the banks want you to pay back at least  50%  to take credit you dont have to pay back nothing.
Credit is not real money!
Loans are there to create money so without loans we will not have any money!!
But credit is not real
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November 16, 2020, 11:59:46 PM
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Borrowing money from banks is not the best solution to recovering the economy in a pandemic situation like now.
Especially providing middle class credit loans, it can add to new problems if they can't take advantage of the loan money.
Then there is no guarantee that take loans will end COVID19, I still think vaccine is the most effective way to make COVID19 end.
Because it is very important to be able to stop the spread of the virus with vaccine, rather than restoring the economy with borrowed money.

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November 17, 2020, 11:53:42 AM
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You have yours and I have mine look what’s I have on the table

Conspiracy on DOW

Every time a company in US go broke and get bailout by the US, it add a little value into the DOW, because money are taken out from the DOW to rescue the company. In the other words more company go broke and crying on DOW the Save The World indices for bailing out, it add a little debt into the DOW account book.

Break down of DOW

D = debt
O = owned
W = Wall Street

Basically Debt Owned by the Wall Street to the company that go broke and accepted bailout.

The more company go broke the higher the DOW debt grow, currently the number of DOW are as high as the many company that go broke and needing bailout to rescue.

You bet on DOW going higher, you bet on more company going broke! That’s why DOW need to go to absolutely the moon, it’s inevitable all company goes broke eventually and add into the DOW tallies, a big number on DOW is a bench mark of sorrow, darkness and hopeless, the doom number.

Don't you guys tired about all of these conspiracies...

I do but thinking all of those makes sense correlation in each different situation makes me feel entertained! Thanks for providing these information, i just love to think about it but not to trust it , there's too much speculation in it with very limited data to provide .. make it more to a baseless conspiracy in my point of view to be honest.

That’s actually partly correct, making thing complicated, confusing, and FUD has always been a tactic used to win a battle, although nobody can fully agree indexes are completely honest, they’re too another player in the battling room, there is time indexes make sense but that’s already no longer true after the market crashes, since then indexes has been manipulated to confuse, for a reason to win the battle at all cost, it is too big to fail too costly to fail, a horrible outcome ensured when indexes fail, if the indexes is honest from the beginning, bitcoin wouldn’t existed, because why? Who know there is even a truth, thing are just too confusion yet the profit are great, just make sure the profit keep coming, nobody care it’s misleading, spreading FUD is profitable, being honest is quickly resort to getting abused, can we blame the elite for being too smart to profiting on confusion?

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November 17, 2020, 12:26:44 PM
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I will be soooo disappointed and angry if I find out that "Big business" and "Bankers" are behind this whole "Covid" epidemic. There are a lot of people with conspiracy theories, saying that this virus was created in a lab and distributed by large Pharmaceutical companies and also countries to generate income for these people and also a form of population control.

Also, the idea that this virus was part of a grand scheme to create panic and fear and force citizens to stay indoors and to cripple the economy, sounds more realistic every day. (Stock exchanges was saturated and there was little opportunities to make a profit and now these shares and stock prices has virtually collapsed and left more opportunity for traders to make some more profit again)

The catch.... only the people in the inner circle, would know what was going to happen and they sold their shares and commodities before it happened.    Roll Eyes

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Bro what you have to know is that every situation has people that it benefits. There are people who are going to use it as a business opportunity, but that doesn’t mean that the situation is not real. Coronavirus is not a fake news, it’s something real and it has wasted a lot of lives, so it’s real.

Just because you’re seeing people doing business with it and all that is happening doesn’t make it fake, it’s real man. Same thing you’re saying here, I have seen a lot of people that are saying it in my country, some of them are saying that it’s just the government that is lying to the people. But that’s totally wrong, this is not a situation that we should be making fun of.

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I will be soooo disappointed and angry if I find out that "Big business" and "Bankers" are behind this whole "Covid" epidemic. There are a lot of people with conspiracy theories, saying that this virus was created in a lab and distributed by large Pharmaceutical companies and also countries to generate income for these people and also a form of population control.

Also, the idea that this virus was part of a grand scheme to create panic and fear and force citizens to stay indoors and to cripple the economy, sounds more realistic every day. (Stock exchanges was saturated and there was little opportunities to make a profit and now these shares and stock prices has virtually collapsed and left more opportunity for traders to make some more profit again)

The catch.... only the people in the inner circle, would know what was going to happen and they sold their shares and commodities before it happened.    Roll Eyes

Don’t we think the world has changed too much since 2008? In today society, everybody resort to collusion at some point which is not usual, I remember the time internet was primitive the internet is rarely full of collusion, political crap, sexist, racist, hackers, whatever, it’s all about collusion today, the economy didn’t crash the life goes on, people are not turn back to start a nuclear war, but people are too smart with money, anybody can count how much money in their wallet, they can count 1 to 10, because anybody is too smart with money, bank run keep happening, people keep money in bank then they take out the money from bank, and bank faces a huge cash flow problem because they’re unable to dispense cash at will, all are given out as loan to business, but people continued to pump money in and out of the bank which make the entire banking unable to run their business as loan provider, and this shit has been going on for 50 years people continue to pump in and out of bank, today people non stop pump in and pump out of crypto, because the same people are smart they can count money precisely, financial system has a reason to make people dumb, dumb people are more willing to apart with their money, but too bad all people are smart with numbers, all can count from 1 to 10, can count the dollar bill precisely without fail, every kid can know what colour is the 1 dollar bill, too smart, bank run won’t stop, economy won’t fail, life goes on, collusion follow, new world order follow, and virus come together in collusion based economy.

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Bro what you have to know is that every situation has people that it benefits. There are people who are going to use it as a business opportunity, but that doesn’t mean that the situation is not real. Coronavirus is not a fake news, it’s something real and it has wasted a lot of lives, so it’s real.

Just because you’re seeing people doing business with it and all that is happening doesn’t make it fake, it’s real man. Same thing you’re saying here, I have seen a lot of people that are saying it in my country, some of them are saying that it’s just the government that is lying to the people. But that’s totally wrong, this is not a situation that we should be making fun of.
Indeed. This COVID-19 is not all about politics or about the government raising money. Many people are struggling and having huge loans just to save their businesses and to provide the daily needs of their family during the pandemic, that is why it is not a joke or not taking it seriously. If this pandemic will continue next year of 2021, only huge companies will last long such as Microsoft, Apple, Google, Amazon, etc because other companies will have huge debts and will not be able to pay all of it.

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November 17, 2020, 06:24:04 PM
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I will be soooo disappointed and angry if I find out that "Big business" and "Bankers" are behind this whole "Covid" epidemic. There are a lot of people with conspiracy theories, saying that this virus was created in a lab and distributed by large Pharmaceutical companies and also countries to generate income for these people and also a form of population control.

Also, the idea that this virus was part of a grand scheme to create panic and fear and force citizens to stay indoors and to cripple the economy, sounds more realistic every day. (Stock exchanges was saturated and there was little opportunities to make a profit and now these shares and stock prices has virtually collapsed and left more opportunity for traders to make some more profit again)

The catch.... only the people in the inner circle, would know what was going to happen and they sold their shares and commodities before it happened.    Roll Eyes

If you want proof of that, then wait for the time to come soon where there will be a list of names of human beings who have a drastic increase in wealth after this pandemic ends.  Indeed, whatever happens, it will not be separated from the existence of a conspiracy theory.  It naturally looks realistic to us because we are only pawns of every event unless we have a position and power so maybe we can be part of the conspiracy.
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November 17, 2020, 08:43:09 PM
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I'm always hearing a lot of them saying about the pandemic as a conspiracy theory. No to mention how this pandemic gave difficulty to those people who have experienced it personally and to those who have lost their loved ones. But as the vaccines are coming its trials and there were few who have said to be almost effective 100%, it is not for free so as usual we will think of it as a business. Business or not, buy the vaccine if you want to avoid the virus.
I will not say categorically, but it seems to be incredibly difficult and almost impossible to create a vaccine with one hundred percent effectiveness, especially in the case of coronavirus. About the free of charge of the vaccine itself. The vaccine cannot be free in principle, because you have to spend money on development and production, and no one will deal with such issues for free. Therefore, everything depends on the position of state authorities and how much they are willing to pay for such expenses. In theory, the widespread introduction of the vaccine will protect against unnecessary costs in health care and will allow for less losses in the economy.
I agree. There is a process that these vaccines are created and they spend money for its creation and mass production. I'm not expecting it to be free unless your government will do it for you but for individuals that can avail to buy one once it's out of the market, buy it for your own sake. As long as the success rate and percentage of the vaccine is above 50% which the news said it was around 90%-94% then that's considerably working and a relief.

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November 17, 2020, 08:54:44 PM
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This is such a backwards way to look at how economies work and is yet another conspiracy theory type idea that makes no sense. The world (and individual countries) go through a constant cycle of boom and bust. It has been working this way for decades, if not centuries, and will continue into the forseeable future. When times are good, money flows easily and people also spend it because credit is cheap. When the economic cycle reverses or in extreme stress situations like a global pandemic, it can shock the economy into a recession - where businesses want to protect their money and credit becomes much harder to acquire. In actual fact, in direct contradiction to your claim, it is actually much harder to take loans out in the current climate and this changed shortly after the effects of Covid were clear. Banks only want to lend to people who they know can pay it back, it is totally against their interests to extend a loan to people who are losing their jobs - which is happening on a mass scale right now.

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November 17, 2020, 09:13:48 PM
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I'm always hearing a lot of them saying about the pandemic as a conspiracy theory. No to mention how this pandemic gave difficulty to those people who have experienced it personally and to those who have lost their loved ones. But as the vaccines are coming its trials and there were few who have said to be almost effective 100%, it is not for free so as usual we will think of it as a business. Business or not, buy the vaccine if you want to avoid the virus.
I will not say categorically, but it seems to be incredibly difficult and almost impossible to create a vaccine with one hundred percent effectiveness, especially in the case of coronavirus. About the free of charge of the vaccine itself. The vaccine cannot be free in principle, because you have to spend money on development and production, and no one will deal with such issues for free. Therefore, everything depends on the position of state authorities and how much they are willing to pay for such expenses. In theory, the widespread introduction of the vaccine will protect against unnecessary costs in health care and will allow for less losses in the economy.
I agree. There is a process that these vaccines are created and they spend money for its creation and mass production. I'm not expecting it to be free unless your government will do it for you but for individuals that can avail to buy one once it's out of the market, buy it for your own sake. As long as the success rate and percentage of the vaccine is above 50% which the news said it was around 90%-94% then that's considerably working and a relief.
My government announce already that the vaccine will only be free to the poor and those middle class and rich person have to pay for that vaccine so they can be healed but of course we know how corrupt government works so for sure there’s still an exception for this one. If you have a business now is a good time to take loans since the interest is low and maybe its easy to apply for a loan with so much consideration from the banks.
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November 17, 2020, 10:48:16 PM
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My government announce already that the vaccine will only be free to the poor and those middle class and rich person have to pay for that vaccine so they can be healed but of course we know how corrupt government works so for sure there’s still an exception for this one. If you have a business now is a good time to take loans since the interest is low and maybe its easy to apply for a loan with so much consideration from the banks.
If you need the money, take the loan. But if you don't have anything to spend it on, that will only sum up to your debt which isn't good. It sounds good to loan because interest rates are way lower than it is before.
But if you don't anything important to use it on, I don't think that doesn't make sense. Although taking the loans will also help the economy recover but for my sake, I've never thought adding debt.

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So look like faster we get loans the faster restrictions will be removed.

Vaccanices are just side money and I dont think anyone will force anyone to take vaccanices.
World is run as business as big corporation so its not make people in stress too much!!
The whole point is to make sure life is sustainable and people are productive.

All this fears and conspiracyy theories are not serious!
Its all about just money and business!
All what the bankers want most is just to Open economy and give out  loans so our economy can go 10x more!
The bankers the elite want bull run I dont think they keep markets dowm too long.

Will be all good you people worry about too much let our Masters the bankers take care of this.

I Trust them becouse they been running world long time so I guess they know what to do.
I dont ever think they will do vaccanices forcement That's Bad for their reputation if they make people Against them then its harder to Rule let the people be happy enought and all easy!


Give Middle class the Dream of wealth by giving them credit loans... So the option to borrow from future... All good all happy Smiley

So anyone who can think logically knows no Reason to worry about as covid wars Everything is just a part of the business as usual.




Taking loans is sounds good because you can get money instantly from a loan shark or a banks and other government agency but what is the purpose of your loan? If you just take a loans and spend it without valid purpose then you still have no good job because of this covid then I think you just make another trouble in your life finding a way to pay your loans with high interest. That's not a goad way to move on unless you have a great plan for your loan like using for investment or to put up even a small business , but it is still not a guaranty that you can earn a lot, it is still full of risk. So, much better to avoid taking loans if not necessary.

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November 18, 2020, 01:53:22 AM
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What happened to us is not just a fabrication or a joke, many lives have been wasted because of the virus that has greatly damaged the economy of many countries. It's easy to say that it's a conspiracy theory and there's so many speculations behind it, but take a look at it there are millions of people are affected and even high profile people are affected too. They offering loans because they want people to recover and build their livelihood again, and if you are planning to have some loan make sure you will spend it wisely or put it in a business that will give you profit.
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November 18, 2020, 02:59:34 AM
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If after everyone takes the loan the virus will end then, i think ... you believe with conspiracy theories.  taking a loan without being able to return it then they will only lose.... not that simple this virus will end. because the impact is not only on the economic sector, but on health, education, and people's habits.
indeed when this virus spreads many conspiracy theories that might make sense but you have to be able to filter which ones are right and which are not, maybe you can find the truth first so that you won't be affected by bad things like other conspiracies, at least life will be better if not take a loan with an amount that exceeds our ability.

Its better to be decisive in these trying times. Covid-19 is real and millions are dying and adding more daily. Though its seems new cases are declining but still millions are suffering. Conspiracy stories are there we cant control that, and I hope government will be guided scientifically  and can render decision base on facts and what's happening. I am okay with loans as long as it is necessary and badly needed to curve the spread of these virus.
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