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Some people say that Avalanche has good potential and it offers something Unique. What do you say about it? its new features like Avalanche Ethereum Bridge can really attract new projects In its influence? Do you even think that in the market ethereum network has any real competition right now?

I assume Avalanche will not be able to kill Ethereum but it will be more like a chain that could support Ethereum even though it creates new smart contracts. What I am interested in smart contract related projects is how to create smart contracts easier and more convenient. Ethereum has the Solidity language and it looks bad as developers spend a lot of time fixing bugs and testing it. I am thinking about contracts written in older, more popular languages ​​like C +, Java, Python ... In the projects, I am observing there is Lamden that allows Python for programming and above all Provides policies for developer support as the 90% tx fee of DAPP they generate will flow back to their pocket. That means developers probably won't need to create their own project tokens, they just need to create a good project and pull users into it. Another thing is that Lamden has new technology with high-speed blockchain, low transaction costs, adjustable via votes. I see the plausibility in this blockchain, they now have a mainnet and are about to launch their AMM with the atomic swap.

few days ago i read few altcoins will replace ethereum including polkadot, eos and other
and now you write here if Avalanche can be an ethereum killer
i think not enough reason for Avalanche to kill the ethereum buddy, and for me ethereum will stay as the best altcoins

Not atall, even if any altcoins will kill ethereum any time soon, it can't be Avalanche, I don't see any altcoins killing ethereum for now. Ethereum will still stay at the top of all other altcoins.

I have heard this statement before for many projects and all those projects are still tiny as compared to ethereum so even if eth network has its issues and problems still it is the top and the preferred network by the market which make it the best.

I have the same sentiments here on this matter. Because they need to prove something first before thinking that they can compete with the popular platform used by many developers. Too early to speculate on this subject. Though Avalanche team seems to be solid, still their potential is yet to be uncovered.

sirer and his team really working hard. avax may not be an eth killeri but it will become in top 5 in 3 years. their prjest is really great.

Like some people were saying that BCH or XRP could be a Bitcoin killer.  ;)

Existing, successful cryptocurrencies have a number of advantages. First they already have a user base and people are lazy. To dump one good coin to get the other they'd have to see the second one beating the first one but how is that going to happen without thousands of investors ready to take a risk?

Also existing cryptos have a brand. Avalanche doesn't have one yet and will need years to build it.

Why avalanche has to be ethereum killer to succeed, it should only look to be avalanche first and prove their utility and worth in the market, such statements are just for seeking attention and have no backing and truth in my honest opinion. I want Avalanche to succeed alongwith Ethereum in a positive manner.

I think it's not that easy to say that somthing/someone can kill ethereum. He has to kill all the projects developped with ethereum

Ethereum was built since 2016 and still under developement with a strong team (one of the best ever) and a large community. Avalanche looks promising but it needs few years of experience to show how strong and solid it is and make it easy for Eth Dapps to migrate to Avalanche. It should be a long journey.

Too many projects aiming to be the ethereum killer. Ethereum has the network effect just like bitcoin.  
For technical superiority it is not easy to say. Some of the most technically promising designs many have not heard of.
For example there are projects not even in the top 400 that have developers that are as gifted as dan or eth team.  Both Bitbay (first smart contract design) and blacknet ( pos3 developer) are promising and brilliant projects. Blacknet is entirely new approach. Bitbay uses an older consensus mechanism pos3 but has plans for a hybrid design that is more decentralized than dpos but also very fast.
Cardano many said was the most technically brilliant design with the strongest team.

All of these projects are probably not ethereum killers but could be if they got the network effect behind them.
They can all be very successful without being eth killers.
Ethereum is a beast. Bitbay is a very elegant and simple design which if used as a base to build on top off could be vastly more efficient for certain tasks.
Blacknet I have not studied. But I noted the dev mentioned he thought it could improve upon eos.
That developer is not known for exaggerating and his pos3 design was the base most developers ( borrowed) for their projects for years here. You have to study this forum back to 2012 really to really study which developers have created original work that was highly effective.

The vast majority of projects are marketing hype and have no talent to implement many of their technobable.
The sad part is most amateur investors fall for the marketing hype time and time again.
Avalanche sounds impressive.  This means nothing. If you look back through the history there have been many bitcoin and ethereum killers.  I dont expect it to be an ethereum killer.

polka dots are often talked about, but I myself am not sure they will be able to shift or even move ethereum. I see now that ethereum has the best position among other altcoins and will not be easily killed by anything

Not one of this "Ethereum Killer" again! we've already had a lot of discussions lately about this kind of projects. NO, there's none  that is going to be Ethereum killer any time soon, at least not now that they have a strong support and a good overall performance.


You can pretty much say that to every project if that's your belief BUT that doesn't mean anything at all, Avalanche is just one of those coins. I've never even heard of Avalanche at all.

POLKADOT was doing the same like avax. AVAX ether bridge just like a crosschain. I remember polkadot was offering the same feature like avax and DOT gives the opportunity for the projects that used ethereum's insfrastructure to use polka but the result was not so good. So many projects are still prefering to use ERC20 as their tokenization. AVAX will have the same result as DOT.
So many news assets are issued on ether chain. No more ethereum killer. ethereum killer is dead

I invested in Avalanche once i saw the team behind the project, they are blockchain experts and they've been around before Ethereum and even bitcoin, when I saw this I knew this is exactly what  looking for, a new project with professional teams and I don't regret investing on this project, Avalanche is a new project, how ever it's future is going to be it's never going to catch up with ethereum just like that, for ethereum it's been a long time coming.

i dont know why im thinking of a real avalanche after reading the title , silly me but i remember that were was really a project called avalanche before .

afaik that was also a good project with full potentials and still relevant till now as i still see some threads of it on this forum but avalanche was not that lively as before . in conclusion , that coin cant kill etherium  . there were now many new released coins after avalanche and are also have a better potentials but eth was still standing strong to re claimed its position  .

I don't think so, Ethereum is different and it's old, it will take many years for any new smart contract project to get to where Ethereum is today, even both Polkadot and Avalanche combined can't kill ethereum right now, as good as Bitcoincash is for payment solution and faster transaction speed why can't BCH killed Bitcoin till date?

Currently other platforms in this market i find are even better than Avalanche, but also cannot surpass eth. So it's hard for Avalanche to get that chance, i think all the intensity that shouldn't continue here.

I've been following Avalanche for a very long time, almost from their inception. This project really has prospects of becoming an Ethereum killer, but even if not, it will at least stand next to it.

NEO was an Ethereum killer. And look at where NEO is now and how much it has achieved. And NEO have a much stronger team than Avalanche, as well as more resources (both human and financial). Also, consider that Ethereum has collected enough for Stacking program to start. They plan to start it on December 1. December 1 will a small moon launch will start. Does Avalanche have something to counter all this?

Stop dreaming there is never going to be any Ethereum killer, haven't you had enough? From NEO, EOS, Stellar, TRON, to Polkadot, RSK and Avalanche, these new smart contract projects did pretty well on their own, they are well patronized by developers that have interest in them but kindly go to https://coinmarketcap.com/new  and see yourself how many projects been released almost every week running on Ethereum ERC20 smart contract, why? Developers prefers ethereum blockchain over the rest, no matter what Ethereum stands alone and nothing can shake the project.

Even if good projects appear on the cryptocurrency market that will have functions similar to ethereum, this still means little.  Three years ago, EOS was also said to be the main competitor to ethereum.  Since the inception of EOS, this coin has also had better functionality, but we never saw real competition.  Let new projects like Ethereum appear.  Competition is always good, it forces teams to work to improve their creations.  In the meantime, the Ethereum coin has nothing to fear.

So what happens to the project now? does the project still intend and attempt to kill Ethereum at this point? because you must know that currently Ethereum is being developed further and is experiencing a good price increase, plus there are already very many enthusiasts.

No project has ever surpassed Ethereum in the past few years. Ethereum's community and ecosystem are evolving day by day. At this point, they will upgrade Ethereum 2.0 and this could make Ethereum able to expand their blockchain for faster processing and cheaper costs. I have seen Polkadot, TRX getting too much PR but they cannot take away the private users of Ethereum.
Only when Ethereum stumbles when their source code has a fatal error that cannot be fixed will other projects have a chance to replace Ethereum in the future.

Avalanche can do better on its own without affecting ethereum, investors are the one coming up with their idea of new smart contract projects overtaking ethereum, this isn't what's on Avalanche team mind right now, Ethereum have become a grand master already, no new project can take it's place, even if they try it will take years to get to where ETHEREUM is right now and Ethereum isn't going to stay at one spot.

Yeah .... how many Ethereum killers are there already? Isn't DOT another one? Or EOS? Or Tezos? Fact is that there are so many projects that try or better have tried to overcome Ethereum. But ETH is way too far ahead of their competetion in my opinion.

The only thing that makes AVAX really interesting for me is that it fully supports the EVM. So it would not replace Ethereum but coexist with it and devs could also build on AVAX. 

I'm surprised that you guys are still bringing this type of posts up, other top smart contracts are successful and they keep existing side by side with Ethereum but you want a new project to take over Ethereum? That's forever going to be a dream because no new smart contract will be capable, Ethereum got the strongest community love so far, not even EOS which is china's Ethereum is capable of dethroning ethereum

It's like we got stucked within ethereum. Despite the great decision in Ethereum are made by a centralised entity but it seems that this actually mainting the progress of developement in they way to be fully decentralised.

Avalanche in the other side is doing a great job. It's more convenient to compare it with EOS.

The smart-contract use is getting larger day by day. I think other players will appear.

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maybe Avalanche is more convenient than EOS, but i still believe if Avalanche will never beat ethereum my friend
because ethereum have a strong community and will always support ethereum to be the best altcoins in the market

How long have you been following avalanche? avalanche just getting launched by emin gun sirer a few months ago. did you think it has been running from a few years ago?
that doesn't make sense. I have been following the various projects that started to declare themselves as ethereum killers.
The declaration to be ethereum killer just a marketing trick only.

We have NEO, EOS, Stellar, Tron, Polkadot, Avalanche... All of them are "Eth Killers". We don't know why op chosed Avalanche in expect.

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Your analysis reveals two great results:
1) None of the competitor projects succeeded to defeat Ethereum. "Eth Killer" is the trend for those project.
2) "Eth Killer" will have to first kill all the Dapps built in EVM.

I agree with you that Avalanche is really amazing, what you mentioned is that the features on Avalanche are doing better than ETH, but looking at the whole Ethereum ecosystem, i don't think there's a chance for Avalanche.

Ethereum has become the strongest altcoin and has a lot of trusts, from traders, project developers to big investors. Some of the articles and threads I've read have covered Alts killing Ethereum. But in fact, Ethereum is still under bitcoin. In my opinion, it is very difficult to replace Ethereum in other altcoins.

I like Avalanche project and I'm sure that it will be successful but I don't understand why Ethereum needed to be killed by a new project when they can just co exist for the public sake, Neo and EOS never aimed to kill Ethereum, they are old smart contract project too and they are still alive till today

I never believe there is a project that can take the place of Ethereum now, what Ethereum has done so far has created a platform with a rich ecosystem, i also know Avalanche is a good project and great potential in the future but that is not enough to kill Ethereum, look at the strong platforms that are on the market, you can see that no project can surpass Ethereum.

Honestly we don't need a Ethereum killer but a project that will be as good as Ethereum, thousands of new crypto projects have been launched since 2018 and only very little climb up to top 20 on coinmarketcap and that's pretty bad, we need more new projects to be successful just like old crypto projects. 

It is not likely, due to ETH has a large family now, lots of people release new token on the Ethernet network during these years.
You can imagine how hard is to shake such big family,  and not mention the supply of AVAX is more than six times ETH.

that are the same because when there is a project that as good or much better than etherium , etherium user will fly from this new project leaving eth as a worthless coin . only the etherium haters wish that there was an etherium killer but that didnt happen . it was true that bad cant win with good .

its the year 2017 is the peak of all cryptos and this was also the year where creating of coins became a thing because every creator wants to take advantage of the crypto season thanks to ico . reaching the top ranks isnt easy because of the tight competition and not all can join the top 20 but only the best 20 coins .

You are comparing a project with a top 2 position and a project that is out of the top 100 on CMC, Avalanche is very good at what it has come up with is a solution that i think will be accepted a lot, but the problem Here Ethereum really has a rival in altcoin. There have been a lot of projects created to replace Ethereum, but look at everything that happens and ETH is still number 1 in altcoins.

Every competitor will make something more attractive and will impact for something useful, there is no need to drop one another if you want to stand out. if both can support each other, why not.

Yes, it was the ethereum killer candidate two years ago and still a candidate now. LoL
I still couldn't believe that Emin Gün Sirer is a shill considering he is a professor.

Cardano,Polkadot,EOS.AION,NEO,TRON,ICON.. who will be next?
The most interesting news in 2021 will be talking about the Ethereum ecosystem. If the launch of Ethereum 2.0 is successful and the launch of Phase 1 accelerates,
then the other coins will have no chance of even getting close to Ethereum.
Have you noticed that "Ethereum killers" are getting smaller every year?

Over the years, many projects has been tagged or regarded as Ethereum killer but yet Ethereum is where it is. Many projects or platforms believes Ethereum speed is low, transaction fee is high etc, but yet Ethereum is where it is, the second best coin. So what does that mean? It means all these projects saying they want to do this or that to Ethereum are only looking for recognition, I mean, if really you have what it takes to beat a platform, just go ahead and work on it, make it happen then let the users be the ones to decide.
About this project, I do not know much about it, however, I do not think any platform can beat that of Ethereum, because Ethereum has grown so much while having many users and projects on its blockchain, even a good number of upcoming projects are still leveraging the Ethereum blockchain to kick off their developement. My humble opinion is, invest in whichever platform you want because you believe in it, and not because it is going to beat one platform or the other, you might end up being disappointed.

Their Ethereum Bridge but I honestly don't think it's gonna kill ETH. The fact that they created this feature still means that they are heavily dependent with Ethereum.
There are many coins out there that more worth to kill ETH and that has quite big market cap suifficient to take down ETH at any moment but unfortunately Avalanche is not one of them.
Maybe wait until many people use it then we'll talk again.

I can relate to the this, EOS was regarded as ethereum killer ever since it was lunched, has a different features and hardly to understand, over the years some many altcoin coming out their respective features seems to have outsmart ethereum protocol but they all not getting their target.
Now, ethereum is full of new innovations, bringing in opportunity for project to access into their blockchain and create something new, that's why DeFi projects can be able to come up because they are basically built on ethereum, so however I see no reason why other altcoin can kill down ethereum, ETH remains where it is now.

Avalanche is a very good tech with a lot of promises, but the issue with all these projects is lack of community, they think one they sold their tokens to VC's they would help them build up their market share forgetting the organic growth that project need to succeed. No matter how good your project is, if people are not interested in it, then good luck. I just hope they correct this mistakes and engage their community more