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Title: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: BurgerCash on November 25, 2020, 08:12:49 AM Pretty surprising research.
https://chainbulletin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-while-working-on-bitcoin-heres-how-we-know/ Seems consistent with Barely Sociable's youtube video. Do you guys think that this is further proof of Adam Back being Satoshi, or would you consider someone else? It is also interesting that Craig Wright chose London when trying to scam people into believing he's Satoshi - do you guys think he knew more than the public, making his scam more elaborate? These are some pretty exciting revelations. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: yayayo on November 25, 2020, 08:32:21 AM That's really interesting to know but still his identity is still unknown after all. Does this proof shows that Satoshi Nakamoto lived in London?
Or maybe that was just a temporary residence when he created the Bitcoin? ya.ya.yo! Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on November 25, 2020, 08:44:19 AM Just interesting though that when bitcoin is going up and about to reach $20k, conspiracies about Satoshi also popping up. Of course there is quiet a majority believed that he is somewhat lived in London because of the genesis block’s message. But as I have said previously, he uses a Japanese sounding name, to keep everyone off track, then uses a German based free email provider, satoshin@gmx.com, so does it mean that he is German as well? So it's better to really rest the case and not any more attempts to unravel the mystery.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: YOSHIE on November 25, 2020, 08:44:40 AM Since I entered this Forum, maybe, I've seen a topic about Satoshi 100x, possibly more.
OP, I have a question for you. 1. Why don't you think for yourself, how can you buy Bitcoin as much as possible, which has been made by Satoshi for mankind in this world. 2. What's in it for you, if you find out that Satoshi lives in London. 3. If it is true that Satoshi lives in London, then what can you do, you want to tell the FBI or the king/queen of England. 4. Stop looking for Satoshi, enjoy and take advantage of what Satoshi left to the world today, Bitcoin. Hopefully in the future people will realize that Satoshi was never found. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: mardaed on November 25, 2020, 08:59:23 AM Looks like there's already a topic OP before you created it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293085.0
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: peter0425 on November 25, 2020, 09:10:54 AM Pretty surprising research. So this is really Bullrun?because here we go again as another Satoshi Nakamoto topic.https://chainbulletin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-while-working-on-bitcoin-heres-how-we-know/ Seems consistent with Barely Sociable's youtube video. Do you guys think that this is further proof of Adam Back being Satoshi, or would you consider someone else? It is also interesting that Craig Wright chose London when trying to scam people into believing he's Satoshi - do you guys think he knew more than the public, making his scam more elaborate? These are some pretty exciting revelations. Remember that for 10 years now the whole Forum and even outside this forum is seeking and looking for the founder/creator but is there any concrete proof? anyway at least another Phase of "Satoshi Hunting" is in the house .. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: BlackHatCoiner on November 25, 2020, 09:41:22 AM OP, I hope you understand how many people have tried to define anything about satoshi with 100% certainty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796.0). But no, there's no proof to do it. This man was like a temporary fume on a small period of time. No one knew him, but everybody focused on his project back in 2010. He wasn't considered anything mysterious back then, because bitcoin was just a developing "toy". Once bitcoin became valuable, people started querying if the owner still owns thousands of bitcoins. It was pretty weird that he left such great project to "work on others".
Since then, we've made him a visionary spirit. :P Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: uneng on November 25, 2020, 10:14:31 AM That's really interesting to know but still his identity is still unknown after all. Does this proof shows that Satoshi Nakamoto lived in London? Due to his writing style the author is confident he is really british:Or maybe that was just a temporary residence when he created the Bitcoin? ya.ya.yo! Quote ...all the clues that point to Satoshi being British, like his spelling of endings with -ise instead of -ize and -our instead of -or, e.g., analyse, organise, neighbour, colour, etc. Then there’s his use of the word bloody. More specifically, we not only think he is British, but that he also lived in London while working on Bitcoin. Just timezone argument doesn't convince me, but when we pick all the evidences presented and put together this article makes a lot of sense. A nice find indeed.From now on, I'm sure many others will follow this trail seeking for the real identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Vaskiy on November 25, 2020, 10:56:36 AM I have gone through the whole article but none of the information have impressed me that the speculation is correct. It’s possible that he lived in London but the proof inside isn’t satisfactory at all. Yes, a series of information has been briefed on the article. Different locations were associated and nothing is defined for any specific reason. Maybe I'm not that knowledged to understand their way of briefing. Only thing I understood is the first post of Satoshi made on the same month year 2009.Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Lorence.xD on November 25, 2020, 10:57:32 AM I have gone through the whole article but none of the information have impressed me that the speculation is correct. It’s possible that he lived in London but the proof inside isn’t satisfactory at all. Even if the article have a satisfactory findings, I do not think that it is worth it to look for the identity of Satoshi, no matter how many times someone looks for him/her it will be futile, you will not find a person/persons if they are do not want to be found out, in the case of Satoshi, the exit plan is perfect, he/she left a legacy that will spearhead a neo-economic revolution. Word of advice for Internet sleuths out there still trying to find Satoshi, respect his/her tacit wish to never be found. As the saying goes, never meet your heroes.Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: BitcoinFX on November 25, 2020, 11:00:27 AM London !?
Excerpts; "... On first glance, all three locations seem plausible. In London, he is a night owl, working until the early hours of the morning and sleeping until noon. On the east coast, he works all the way up until the end of the day and then sleeps until early morning. On the west coast, he is an early bird, going to bed early in the night, but also waking up very early. Looking at this data alone, we cannot determine, beyond reasonable doubt, which time zone Satoshi lived in. ..." ... "... In summary, Satoshi’s activity on Bitcointalk and SourceForge, and his emails, all set a clear pattern. Using that pattern we can make reasonable guesses as to where the mysterious inventor of Bitcoin resided while working on the project. The patterns laid out by all the charts above clearly confirm the three most probable time zones – Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), Eastern Time (ET), and Pacific Time (PT). ..." ... "... This translates to March 24, 2009 at 11:33:15 UTC-6. This date also falls into the DST period, but is obviously not Pacific time. It is Mountain Time (MT). States which fall into this time zone include New Mexico, Arizona, and Utah. ..." ... More like San Diego ... !? - https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/ ... Check the date format ... https://web.archive.org/web/20110410024734im_/http://www.bitcoin.org/screen3.png Bitcoin.org snapshot 3rd March 2009. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/ ::) Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: target on November 25, 2020, 03:50:10 PM Very interesting, I enjoyed reading it. It's not just OP that said Satoshi could be from UK. There was a thread here about it too where he just analyzed what SAtoshi had posted in the forum where he used the word mobile rather than phone. I'm not sure how different the two are but he also concluded that Satoshi could be from UK. Although it doesn't really prove anything solid, it's a good read. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Maestro75 on November 25, 2020, 04:31:59 PM The question of Satoshi has gone beyond where he was when he created Bitcoin to where he is at the moment, whether he is even alive now or not. I think it is more concern if he is alive or not even though knowing that may not affect the current price or direction of where Bitoin is heading to. anyway at least another Phase of "Satoshi Hunting" is in the house .. I hope this is the last. The whole Satoshi hunting thing is now boring.Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: tyz on November 25, 2020, 06:02:35 PM Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof That would make sense in that regard, as previous research has shown that some Bitcointalk posts from Satoshi contain typical British formulations. Which of course doesn't have to mean that he was really British or only lived there. My personal theory is still that several people are or have stood behind the psyeudonym of Satoshi. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: fauzan123 on November 25, 2020, 06:32:47 PM I have gone through the whole article but none of the information have impressed me that the speculation is correct. It’s possible that he lived in London but the proof inside isn’t satisfactory at all. Everything is still just a prediction, because until now satoshi is still a mystery. There are rumors that it is just a name and there are also those who say he doesn't live in Japan. Of course this will continue to be a mystery and may claim to each other. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: AhmadM on November 25, 2020, 07:20:17 PM In summary, it's just another hypothesis based on satoshi activities timezone and in my opinion it does not shows anything nor could be reliable to prove the actual location of satoshi even though there's the genesis block’s message there.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: DougM on November 25, 2020, 09:48:33 PM I concur with many it was nicely researched/documented and a good read, but I wouldn't call it 'proof'. Keeping digging and see what else you can find. 8)
Most of those points have been raised before in one form or another, but I did particularly appreciate the thought and effort put into the Genesis quote from the newspaper. Nicely done research with that even if it made some analytical leaps here and there. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: jerrison on November 25, 2020, 10:01:53 PM One thing about the blockchain space and the bitcoin network is that speculations controls everything. Firstly, people trade the coins based on speculations and the originator of the technology is speculatedd to be from china and also speculated to be a person or a grou of developers. I think the inventor of this technology is way too smart to leave tracks and every thing we see is mere speculations as well.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: MCobian on November 25, 2020, 10:30:21 PM To be honest, I expected the very high price increase in Bitcoin, making some people curious about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.
But many people have tried hard to find clues about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto in the end, finally found a dead end. Because Satoshi Nakamoto was too good at hiding his identity, no one could trace his whereabouts at this time. So my suggestion is to stop by wasting time looking for Satoshi's whereabouts, it's better to use our time to analyze Bitcoin's movements. That is much more useful, because it can help make profit from Bitcoin. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Asuspawer09 on November 25, 2020, 10:40:53 PM Very interesting to know these kinds of things about Satoshi Nakamoto," working until the early hours of the morning and sleeping until noon ".
I guess we could assume that maybe Satoshi Nakamoto lived in London? but I guess most of the things about him doesn't matter anymore at this time. And it will be difficult to assume or prove that someone is Satoshi Nakamoto if he is still alive, and it would not change anything in bitcoin, I think he just made the bitcoin like this so that it would function even without Satoshi. https://chainbulletin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-while-working-on-bitcoin-heres-how-we-know/ Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: nutildah on November 25, 2020, 11:23:13 PM Check the date format ... https://web.archive.org/web/20110410024734im_/http://www.bitcoin.org/screen3.png Bitcoin.org snapshot 3rd March 2009. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/ ::) Is it possible Hal Finney coded that client? In your 2nd bitcoin.org link, Satoshi writes the word "synchronising" in the entry from "01 Nov 2008". Americans never spell synchronizing as "synchronising" unless they are being cheeky (my browser spellcheck even underlines the British version as a spelling error). And then he uses the european date format. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Rengga Jati on November 25, 2020, 11:24:57 PM Although there are many such kinds of proofs about it, we can't still admit that the person that you are talking about is the real "Satoshi Nakamoto'. Whether it is true or not, in fact, Satoshi is not willing to discover. So, we will not know about him forever. He has convinced himself to remain anonymous regarding this. And we don't know whether he is 1 person or more than 1 person. And the location used does not necessarily imply that he lives there.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: maxreish on November 25, 2020, 11:25:50 PM Okay, so what if he lives in London and works at night time?
We all know, he left and wanted to stay anonymous so digging some datas like this won't change the fact that he was a great founder of this special and advanced technology. I'm also wondering what if he used VPN and that direct his location to London? Since the purpose is not to trace and locate him so the data may also be possible that it can't be London or wheresoever. One thing, the article predicted it already as one person but in reality, no one still knew if Nakamoto is only one or a group of people, right? Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: steampunkz on November 26, 2020, 11:13:32 AM Oh wow, this kind of interesting because. We have now little chance to discover Satoshi, what is he doing in London? Maybe he/she is studying at college while doing some work with bitcoin there?
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Paycoinzzz on November 26, 2020, 11:34:47 AM Satoshi really wants anonymity and he has the money to travel and work there. According to the chainbulletin article, most of the evidence is predictable according to vague data. So it will be difficult to be sure who Satoshi is, but no matter where he lives, the Crypto market still dump and pump like normal. Anyway, he really deserves the Nobel Prize if he shall appear. ;D
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: BitcoinFX on November 26, 2020, 11:54:40 AM ...snip... Is it possible Hal Finney coded that client? In your 2nd bitcoin.org link, Satoshi writes the word "synchronising" in the entry from "01 Nov 2008". Americans never spell synchronizing as "synchronising" unless they are being cheeky (my browser spellcheck even underlines the British version as a spelling error). And then he uses the european date format. It is perhaps feasible that Hal Finney contributed to building these early wallet releases, however I feel it was more likely to of been 'satoshi'. I somewhat err towards the Times quote in the genesis block and certain use of British English spelling by satoshi to be intentional misdirection. ... It is interesting to note that the 1st snapshot for bitcoin.org in the web archive did not seem to capture (or save) the wallet images ... 1st available snapshot ... January 31st 2009 ... - https://web.archive.org/web/20090131115053/http://bitcoin.org/ 2nd available snapshot ... March 3rd 2009 ... - https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/ ... 03/01/2009 = 3rd January 2009 or 1st March 2009 Obviously the latter date format is after the actual date within the screen shot, although it is perhaps likely a LAN 'testnet' or mock up. Another interesting point is that the 1st snapshots unavailable screen shots are respectively labeled; screen1.png and screen2.png Whilst the 2nd snapshots available screen shots are labeled; screen3.png and screen4.png Do we, for example, assume that these are the same or different screenshots and/or why were they changed or relabeled on the server ? Also see: Date format by country - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country 8) ... "It is the same and at the same time it is not the same. It is different and it is not different" - Zen saying ... "Stop talking, stop thinking, and there is nothing you will not understand. Return to the Root and you will find the Meaning; Pursue the Light, and you will lose its source ... There is no need to seek Truth; only stop having views." - Seng-ts'an/Sosan (d. 600) :D ... Bitcoin would not be Bitcoin without Hal. Perhaps in many ways Hal was 'satoshi'. However, Nakamoto is/was seemingly the originator of the code base. - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=382374.0 Satoshi already told us "I am not Dorian Nakamoto". :-X P.S. I can make these posts and folks no longer even bat an eyelid ... - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg55605550#msg55605550 P.P.S. If you seek the source you might find him! Finding satoshi's is half the fun, right ... - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5165538.msg54950273#msg54950273 :D Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Mrengage on November 26, 2020, 12:34:30 PM Pretty surprising research. https://chainbulletin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-while-working-on-bitcoin-heres-how-we-know/ Seems consistent with Barely Sociable's youtube video. Do you guys think that this is further proof of Adam Back being Satoshi, or would you consider someone else? It is also interesting that Craig Wright chose London when trying to scam people into believing he's Satoshi - do you guys think he knew more than the public, making his scam more elaborate? These are some pretty exciting revelations. Nice findings, few newbies like you don't even know the Finder or the creator of Bitcoin talk less of to know what Bitcoin is used for. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: yazher on November 26, 2020, 02:00:53 PM To be honest, I expected the very high price increase in Bitcoin, making some people curious about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. But many people have tried hard to find clues about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto in the end, finally found a dead end. Because Satoshi Nakamoto was too good at hiding his identity, no one could trace his whereabouts at this time. So my suggestion is to stop by wasting time looking for Satoshi's whereabouts, it's better to use our time to analyze Bitcoin's movements. That is much more useful, because it can help make profit from Bitcoin. Satoshi Nakamoto has mastered the art of hiding without a trace maybe his ancestors were ninjas. back to the topic, there are lots of theories of his whereabouts the old man in google search has even clear his identity because lots of speculators has to suspect him for not telling the truth, poor old man though. The reason for this is people are looking for someone who is good at hiding. If those people don't stop, there will be lots of innocent people to be identified as Satoshi Nakamoto. https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/-TZsACLq0aA9-XOoOIdlcc69dTo=/0x0:2039x1359/1200x800/filters:focal(0x0:2039x1359)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/30208441/ap499078584510.0.jpg Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: 20kevin20 on November 26, 2020, 02:20:06 PM Speaking from personal esperience and thoughts: when you want to hide something, you will try to do and think everything out well before you start actually hiding it. Satoshi more than likely knew people would be going heavily after him if Bitcoin ever became a successful project, and so he more than likely planned his entire Internet existence very well.
I'd imagine he even went for some stuff such as using prepaid disposable SIM cards as his Internet connection, which today is quite hard to do considering the new (at least European) restrictions on purchasing prepaid cards. Faking your timezone is quite easy to do (and mostly doesn't even require intentionally faking it). Each of us has a different daily schedule, so he may be a night owl just as well as being an "early bird". His time activity doesn't say much, or at least nothing to rely on as an information imo. One particular thing I've thought about is that he might've even used one of his closest friends (or co-workers) to write the Internet posts and BTC Whitepaper for him. That makes it very easy for me to pose as a native American, British or whatever on the Internet. Let's not forget something: Satoshi has created the banking system's Enemy. I am pretty sure he went all in and looked for the best and safest ways to keep his identity anonymous before he even leaked a single word about his project on the web. Hence, I really think trying to find his real identity will only end up as a now-even-larger mystery with even more questions than we had before. What if he specifically changed his working schedule just to fake his timezone? What if he used the British news specifically to make us believe he's British? What if someone else actually wrote all those posts instead of him, and he was just the mastermind behind them? It's all a mystery. He created it, he launched it, he wanted his privacy. Let us give at least that much back to him as a reward. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: serjent05 on November 26, 2020, 04:13:00 PM What if he specifically changed his working schedule just to fake his timezone? What if he used the British news specifically to make us believe he's British? What if someone else actually wrote all those posts instead of him, and he was just the mastermind behind them? It's all a mystery. He created it, he launched it, he wanted his privacy. Let us give at least that much back to him as a reward. I agree..., this will then conclude that everything in that article is an assumption. It is not 100% correct nor considered as a fact since, Satoshi wanting to hide his identity will surely use methods that will conceal his timezone, place, and probably even his Machine hardware ID. The title of the article is way more convincing than the proof laid out on its body. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Timmzzy on November 27, 2020, 10:36:52 AM Pretty surprising research. https://chainbulletin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-while-working-on-bitcoin-heres-how-we-know/ Seems consistent with Barely Sociable's youtube video. Do you guys think that this is further proof of Adam Back being Satoshi, or would you consider someone else? It is also interesting that Craig Wright chose London when trying to scam people into believing he's Satoshi - do you guys think he knew more than the public, making his scam more elaborate? These are some pretty exciting revelations. Back when I started learning crypto I was told that the founder of Bitcoin was just no where to be found. And the funniest part is when I asked if he died they said No that he just went missing in thin air. As time goes on am seeing different headlines on trying to know his whereabouts. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Question123 on November 27, 2020, 12:12:27 PM Until now there is a lot of people are looking for the real Satoshi Nakamoto there is a lot prediction or possible about that person and many people give some information but we did not know if it's legit or not. Because Satoshi want a private life so that they are hiding his/her self to the public because they know how it is dangerous once the people know their own Identity.
I would like to say the real Satoshi is very smart because even there is a lot of smart people try to track him/her they still not find it so it means the creator of the bitcoin is very intelligent person. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: tyz on November 27, 2020, 12:17:32 PM Check the date format ... https://web.archive.org/web/20110410024734im_/http://www.bitcoin.org/screen3.png Bitcoin.org snapshot 3rd March 2009. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/ ::) Is it possible Hal Finney coded that client? In your 2nd bitcoin.org link, Satoshi writes the word "synchronising" in the entry from "01 Nov 2008". Americans never spell synchronizing as "synchronising" unless they are being cheeky (my browser spellcheck even underlines the British version as a spelling error). And then he uses the european date format. Interesting find. As I wrote (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5293099.msg55681201#msg55681201) a little bit earlier in this thread, there was a research project some time ago which examined all posts Satoshi has made on Bitcointalk.org (could not find the link quickly). In some posts he typically used British phrases a non-British wouldn't usually use. However, in other posts he used typical American English phrases and words. On the other hand, the timestamps of his posts suggest that he probably comes from the American continent, if one were to use the typical working hours as a basis. Nevertheless, many indicators also point to a European origin. In summary, I believe Satoshi were several people from (at least) the US and Europe. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: loopes on November 27, 2020, 01:19:04 PM this reasearch is amazing enough, nice idea to make a riset using scattergraph timestaps of many resources although there will still be some bias for defining certain timezone where Satoshi Nakamoto stay while working activities, another matching theory like analyzing about Bitcoin genesis block and the embedded message "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" give more confidence for london as big suspected speculation town where sathosi live
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: lifeforcepools on November 27, 2020, 01:47:24 PM Even if we can assume that Satoshi lived in London, this does not affect the explanation of the riddle - " Who is Satoshi?"
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: maartenhaha on November 27, 2020, 02:05:13 PM Great article, I really enjoyed this story in the rainy season and it was quite entertaining discussing it in our community. We have confirmed Satoshi Nakamoto as an anonymous and that is unique to cryptocurrency, just a waste of time if you are looking for his identity.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: MateoDoorbell on November 27, 2020, 02:10:36 PM Wherever or whatever placed Satoshi Nakamoto was not a big deal. Maybe he is hiding for his security purposes.Since I am engage in crypo last 2010 ,I am very curious who he is.I am sad also because I have no idea before that btc is special.If I know maybe i am bagging many btc.Nowadays,Its hard to locate the founder esp. the btc value is getting higher and keep soaring.All we have to do is to be thankful that there's a person who created digital money or btc for us to pay digitally that we used during this pandemic.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: daarul50 on November 27, 2020, 02:25:51 PM Leave satoshi alone!
If he willing to reveal about himself he will do it through the easiest way and undeniable. The above proof clearly insuficient. What if he specifically changed his working schedule just to fake his timezone? What if he used the British news specifically to make us believe he's British? What if someone else actually wrote all those posts instead of him, and he was just the mastermind behind them? It's all a mystery. He created it, he launched it, he wanted his privacy. Let us give at least that much back to him as a reward. I agree..., this will then conclude that everything in that article is an assumption. It is not 100% correct nor considered as a fact since, Satoshi wanting to hide his identity will surely use methods that will conceal his timezone, place, and probably even his Machine hardware ID. The title of the article is way more convincing than the proof laid out on its body. That is what makes satoshi special and bitcoin itself as a revolutional invention. I am not convinced at all with this story. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: franky1 on November 27, 2020, 05:03:03 PM sorry but the UK timezone . where the 'no post' majority is between 7am and 1pm does not prove he lived in a UK bodyclock regime.
its funny how people then try to twist the data into new context such as: "all geeks/nerds/hackers dont have a 9am-10pm awake body clock, they all have nocternal body clocks" or "maybe he programmed to send replies at certain times of day to hide when he actually is awake" yes his grammar was british english as oppose to american/australian english. but that is not any proof of location of living. sorry but this post history and grammar research data has been discussed dozens of times over the last decade and the end conclusion is that its not new news and proves nothing the only thing possible to deem is that the probability of him being japanese is low Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Cling18 on November 27, 2020, 06:21:57 PM It's interesting analysis, but it won't help much to discover Satoshi identity since it's not proof, but mere possibility. Additionally the analysis uses assumption that Satoshi follow common sense. Legit proof is what we really need to know who the real Satoshi is. However, wherever he is right now I believe that he still deserves peace and privacy because that's the path that he had chosen despite the existence of Bitcoin. These assumptions and conclusions still couldn't prove us anything. I'm sure that he has his own reason why he's keeping his life in private if ever he's still existing. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: bitpotter on November 27, 2020, 08:07:57 PM It's interesting analysis, but it won't help much to discover Satoshi identity since it's not proof, but mere possibility. Additionally the analysis uses assumption that Satoshi follow common sense. Legit proof is what we really need to know who the real Satoshi is. However, wherever he is right now I believe that he still deserves peace and privacy because that's the path that he had chosen despite the existence of Bitcoin. These assumptions and conclusions still couldn't prove us anything. I'm sure that he has his own reason why he's keeping his life in private if ever he's still existing. Here I also want to know who Satoshi Nakamoto is and where he is now. One thing is for sure, he has created a digital currency technology that is now being adopted by many people and many companies. Of course it also makes our lives easier without having to bother carrying paper money everywhere, because all we have to do is scan the barcode, fill in the amount, send it to the address and it's done. So I am very grateful to this person named Satoshi Nakamoto. We wish you good health and a long life! Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: usekevin on November 27, 2020, 08:43:58 PM Santoshi identity has always remain a controversy as some individual has tried to steal his identity to scam people into believing them and they projects, I know the great santoshi anonymousity has given room to so many claims. You are right brother.All the time people try to share they was a Sathoshi. Not only for the proud, but also for the controversy to the market.But the original sathosi will not show they indetity for sure.Because they will have nearly 1 million bitcoin and he will sell that happily. Surely he will live their life like a king without a kingdom. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: omone1 on November 27, 2020, 08:54:00 PM All these are just still guessing and remain so. The identity of Satoshi will remain anonymous and people will keep laying claim to the name. Where is BCH "BSV" king who always claimed he was the real Satoshi? and deceived a lot of his followers, they should be regretting today, having held BSV and missed the BTC moon.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: verita1 on November 27, 2020, 09:18:32 PM Satoshi has an unknown identity because he wanted it that way. He has been a genius from the get-go while creating Bitcoin. It is still impressive and a mystery to talk about Satoshi today. The reading is still interesting, however I prefer to appreciate the legacy that Satoshi left us and the beginning of the disruption of money.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: sayaya17 on November 27, 2020, 09:32:13 PM Uncovering the mystery of Satoshi’s figure is still a debate and a conspiracy theory. For those who want to investigate and prove the truth of Satoshi figure is not easy, because accurate evidence must accompany the claim. But so far I don’t think there have been any investigations or conspiracy theories confirming that Satoshi Nakamoto has been found. Russia, London, America or wherever Satoshi, this is not enough to prove
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: NelfiNovita on November 27, 2020, 11:53:48 PM I still doubt this news, I don't think he's Satoshi Nakamoto because so far his whereabouts are still a mystery. So a question for me, why is Satoshi Nakamoto just announcing his whereabouts now? I think there is an element of deception.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Gotumoot on November 28, 2020, 09:06:34 AM That's really interesting to know but still his identity is still unknown after all. Does this proof shows that Satoshi Nakamoto lived in London? I agree to this even if we found out where Satoshi was located at the time Bitcoin was being created we wouldn't know the real identity of the creator.Or maybe that was just a temporary residence when he created the Bitcoin? ya.ya.yo! Who knows maybe Satoshi is already a millionaire before the BTC was created and doesn't really have a permanent address that loves to go to different places or country. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: BitcoinFX on November 28, 2020, 11:35:27 AM Speaking from personal esperience and thoughts: when you want to hide something, you will try to do and think everything out well before you start actually hiding it. Satoshi more than likely knew people would be going heavily after him if Bitcoin ever became a successful project, and so he more than likely planned his entire Internet existence very well. I'd imagine he even went for some stuff such as using prepaid disposable SIM cards as his Internet connection, which today is quite hard to do considering the new (at least European) restrictions on purchasing prepaid cards. Faking your timezone is quite easy to do (and mostly doesn't even require intentionally faking it). Each of us has a different daily schedule, so he may be a night owl just as well as being an "early bird". His time activity doesn't say much, or at least nothing to rely on as an information imo. One particular thing I've thought about is that he might've even used one of his closest friends (or co-workers) to write the Internet posts and BTC Whitepaper for him. That makes it very easy for me to pose as a native American, British or whatever on the Internet. Let's not forget something: Satoshi has created the banking system's Enemy. I am pretty sure he went all in and looked for the best and safest ways to keep his identity anonymous before he even leaked a single word about his project on the web. Hence, I really think trying to find his real identity will only end up as a now-even-larger mystery with even more questions than we had before. What if he specifically changed his working schedule just to fake his timezone? What if he used the British news specifically to make us believe he's British? What if someone else actually wrote all those posts instead of him, and he was just the mastermind behind them? It's all a mystery. He created it, he launched it, he wanted his privacy. Let us give at least that much back to him as a reward. I despair. "... as we know, there are known knowns; there are things we know we know. We also know there are known unknowns; that is to say we know there are some things we do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns – the ones we don't know we don't know ..." - Donald Henry Rumsfeld You all know we know the following, (right!?) ... Excerpt; - https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/ "... Debug Log In the initial days of Bitcoin, the software used IP address to send and receive bitcoins. For this reason the debug log becomes crucial for the investigation. It reveals IP’s of 3 users who were connected to the IRC. This happened on 2009-01-10. Satoshi and Hal were the only two people working on the project during that time. ..." [citation's needed] I have researched these IP addresses extensively against old Tor exit node lists, old proxy lists and old GeoIP (maxmind) database lists. Whois Satoshi? Known Satoshi IP addresses? ... - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.msg51497775#msg51497775 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5155191.msg55065045#msg55065045 ... How can I put this ... the true satoshi candidate had an internet presence before the creation of Bitcoin. He (seemingly) later increased obfuscation and went pseudonymous, before disappearing after Bitcoins inception was considered successful (even unsuccessful!? See: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Value_overflow_incident)) and/or because he got spooked. The most likely satoshi candidate is in fact hidden in plain sight, if you know where to look. He quite literally moved onto other things. Who told you Satoshi Nakamoto did not want to be found ? Media mythopoeia and 'community' hearsay ? It's now a complete farce! A total media circus! Why would the real satoshi even want to return? London ... :D ... Take Me Back To London (feat. Stormzy) [Official Lyric Video] - https://youtu.be/ehQcuKhO5n0 Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: DougM on November 28, 2020, 01:53:17 PM includes some more related musings on the timestamps
Researcher Publishes Never Before Seen Emails Between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney https://www.coindesk.com/satoshi-nakamoto-hal-finney-emails Quote Researcher Publishes Never Before Seen Emails Between Satoshi Nakamoto and Hal Finney by Jamie Redman https://news.bitcoin.com/researcher-publishes-never-before-seen-emails-between-satoshi-nakamoto-and-hal-finney/ Just recently three previously unpublished emails from Bitcoin’s inventor, Satoshi Nakamoto, have been made public. The emails reveal the correspondence between Satoshi and the early Bitcoin developer Hal Finney. The communications between Nakamoto and Finney stem from November 2008 and January 2009, the very month Bitcoin was launched. On November 27, three emails that have never been seen before were made public in an editorial written by Michael Kaplikov, a professor at Pace University. According to Kaplikov, the emails derived from the New York Times contributor Nathaniel Popper. The NYT journalist also wrote the book “Digital Gold” and Hal Finney’s wife Fran Finney gave Popper the emails at this time. Kaplikov published the emails alongside his editorial after confirming that the emails were indeed legitimate, and stemmed from the now-deceased Hal Finney’s old computer. ... The very next day, Hal Finney took to Twitter and told his followers he was “running bitcoin.” It seems Finney did get a chance to look at the code after his recent correspondence with Nakamoto. In addition to the three unpublished emails, Kaplikov also discussed the email correspondence between Finney and Nakamoto that was given to the Wall Street Journal back in 2014. The reason for this is because Kaplikov discusses discrepancies with the email’s timestamps. Kaplikov stresses that the January 2009 emails appear to be roughly eight hours ahead of Greenwich Mean Time (GMT). Just recently, new research from The Chain Bulletin contributor Doncho Karaivanov tried to pinpoint Satoshi’s home location by leveraging all his activity and scatter charts of all the timestamps. Karaivanov’s study assumes that Satoshi Nakamoto lived in London (GMT) when he/she or they created the Bitcoin project. However, studies from the past show that Nakamoto could have also resided in California on the west coast and some have asserted he lived on the eastern side of the United States. Moreover, it is also assumed in a few of the studies that Satoshi Nakamoto pulled a lot of ‘all-nighters’ and crammed his work before he left the project. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: wiss19 on November 28, 2020, 06:59:20 PM How sure are we about these claims? Though I will agree that I have seen theories that said Satoshi Nakamoto writings are mix of British and American English and some say it’s only British English, but there have also been claims that he’s from Japan.
Even on Wikipedia it says that he was born in Japan, and his nationality is Japan. Then just today I have seen another forum member that posted a theory that claims that Satoshi Nakamoto is from Russia and that the Russian government must be aware of it and are covering it up, and this website also have their own “proof”, lol you all have proof. You know what? I am just tired of all these theories, I will just wait till Satoshi is ready to reveal his identity with proof. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Silberman on November 28, 2020, 08:26:29 PM Since I entered this Forum, maybe, I've seen a topic about Satoshi 100x, possibly more. While I agree that we must enjoy and take advantage of the legacy that he left behind him at the same time it is simply too tempting for people to keep speculating about who he is, after all if bitcoin really becomes as big as we think it can get then the mystery and the interest about his identity will only increase, think about it, the story of the creation of bitcoin is almost legendary, and unknown person created something that changed the world and we have no clue who he was, this ignites the imagination of people and this will keep being the case for generations to come.OP, I have a question for you. 1. Why don't you think for yourself, how can you buy Bitcoin as much as possible, which has been made by Satoshi for mankind in this world. 2. What's in it for you, if you find out that Satoshi lives in London. 3. If it is true that Satoshi lives in London, then what can you do, you want to tell the FBI or the king/queen of England. 4. Stop looking for Satoshi, enjoy and take advantage of what Satoshi left to the world today, Bitcoin. Hopefully in the future people will realize that Satoshi was never found. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Shasha80 on November 28, 2020, 10:22:25 PM I still doubt this news, I don't think he's Satoshi Nakamoto because so far his whereabouts are still a mystery. So a question for me, why is Satoshi Nakamoto just announcing his whereabouts now? I think there is an element of deception. Yeah, many have identified themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto before, but none of them can prove it. And people don’t believe it because no one meets the criteria as a satoshi. When bitcoin is growing in popularity, it is only natural that there are people who want to be popular as well by recognizing themselves as Satoshi Nakamoto. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Ridwan Fauzi on November 28, 2020, 10:39:06 PM I have no interest with satoshi conspiracy anymore, whoever he is and whereever he is I don't care with it. I just focus on myself to buy bitcoin as much as I can and even it would be better if I learn more strategy about trading for provisions, yeah I think it more useful rather than looking for an information about satoshi nakamoto.
There may be two type person to respect his service, first like you who keep finding more information about satoshi nakamoto. And two, respect what he makes and use it as if he can't escape and for me I belong to the second type, I like bitcoin because it has given me many thing especially teaching me how to be a person who have financial freedom. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Mr.sprin on November 29, 2020, 12:15:57 PM The question is whether the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto has been revealed. Many people have been digging for information on Satoshi but no one has found it yet, and now there is news that Satoshi is in London, can I believe it? I am personally not sure about this news.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: so98nn on November 29, 2020, 01:29:43 PM Since I entered this Forum, maybe, I've seen a topic about Satoshi 100x, possibly more. OP, I have a question for you. 1. Why don't you think for yourself, how can you buy Bitcoin as much as possible, which has been made by Satoshi for mankind in this world. 2. What's in it for you, if you find out that Satoshi lives in London. 3. If it is true that Satoshi lives in London, then what can you do, you want to tell the FBI or the king/queen of England. 4. Stop looking for Satoshi, enjoy and take advantage of what Satoshi left to the world today, Bitcoin. Hopefully in the future people will realize that Satoshi was never found. Pretty awesome thought by this guy. We all should be mature enough to understand that it doesn't matter if we ever found out whose Satoshi and who isn't. It won't change anything in the world if we ever came to know whose that guy. He did his job, and looking at the success of blockchain one can say that he loved doing his job. Whether he is alive or into the heavens doesn't matter anymore. It's public ledger, people will keep contributing to Satoshi's workflow. They will re-develope it as and when required. The serious question is, how are we doing with the crypto space that was invented by someone unknown? Just consider the whole crypto is Satoshi himself and move on. Conspiracy theories would be built on and on to claim the fame and nothing else. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: BitcoinMoses on December 01, 2020, 01:21:26 AM London !? Excerpts; "... On first glance, all three locations seem plausible. In London, he is a night owl, working until the early hours of the morning and sleeping until noon. On the east coast, he works all the way up until the end of the day and then sleeps until early morning. On the west coast, he is an early bird, going to bed early in the night, but also waking up very early. Looking at this data alone, we cannot determine, beyond reasonable doubt, which time zone Satoshi lived in. ..." ... "... In summary, Satoshi’s activity on Bitcointalk and SourceForge, and his emails, all set a clear pattern. Using that pattern we can make reasonable guesses as to where the mysterious inventor of Bitcoin resided while working on the project. The patterns laid out by all the charts above clearly confirm the three most probable time zones – Greenwich Mean Time (GMT), Eastern Time (ET), and Pacific Time (PT). ..." ... "... This translates to March 24, 2009 at 11:33:15 UTC-6. This date also falls into the DST period, but is obviously not Pacific time. It is Mountain Time (MT). States which fall into this time zone include New Mexico, Arizona, and Utah. ..." ... More like San Diego ... !? - https://whoissatoshi.wordpress.com/2016/02/20/satoshi-in-california/ ... Check the date format ... https://web.archive.org/web/20110410024734im_/http://www.bitcoin.org/screen3.png Bitcoin.org snapshot 3rd March 2009. Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/ ::) BitcoinFX, You know that I lived in London and still I am living in London. I cannot keep silent anymore. It is too much for me. Just leave me alone please. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: oktana on December 01, 2020, 01:29:27 AM Hey OP, he lived in my country. Nothing's gonna change. Even the it's his identity, if it gets revealed to you right now, you'll definitely see that knowing him or not, you still have to buy your bitcoins
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: FinneysTrueVision on December 01, 2020, 01:34:47 AM Analyzing timestamps is far from being definitive proof. It is just speculation. There have been other studies that came to a different conclusion. Unless Satoshi decides to come forward we will never know who he was. It does not matter to me if we ever find out his true identity because the project belongs to the community now and not a single person. That is what differentiates Bitcoin from other cryptocurrencies where the creator is treated like a king.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: BitcoinFX on December 01, 2020, 10:22:24 PM ...snip... BitcoinFX, You know that I lived in London and still I am living in London. I cannot keep silent anymore. It is too much for me. Just leave me alone please. @BitcoinMoses - I don't know you at all. Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Walterhank on December 16, 2020, 06:41:02 AM It could be true as a matter of fact there are 90% chances that it is true. But still, who knows his real identity, he hasn't made any contact with the world and a lot of time has been passed since his first contact.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: jademaxxiss012 on December 16, 2020, 06:58:56 AM It is difficult to speculate about the true event in the making of bitcoin except if the founder itself will disclose everything he made. However, I doubt that he will going to show up. The bitcoin system is relatively huge now and if it happen that there will be a ground for imprisonment for something then possible that they can get into jail for creating something to which it did violate.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Mike Mayor on December 16, 2020, 07:57:26 PM Someone, please explain this fascination that's really just a bog waste of time with Satoshi. So he lived in London? So what? What will you do with that info? Does it somehow satisfy some curiosity you had? What exactly are you hoping to find. Why not just waste your life away trying to find the holy grail. It's just as pointless.
Title: Re: Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof Post by: Renampun on December 16, 2020, 08:03:52 PM Satoshi's existence doesn't prove anything, if satoshi wanted to be recognized and known then he had been doing it a long time ago...
satoshi is a pure anonymous who doesn't care about fame at all, I really admire his principles of life, what an extraordinary person. no one will ever know where the real satoshi is. |
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