Satoshi Nakamoto Lived In London While Working On Bitcoin + proof

[nutildah]

Check the date format ...



Bitcoin.org snapshot 3rd March 2009.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/

Is it possible Hal Finney coded that client?

In your 2nd bitcoin.org link, Satoshi writes the word "synchronising" in the entry from "01 Nov 2008". Americans never spell synchronizing as "synchronising" unless they are being cheeky (my browser spellcheck even underlines the British version as a spelling error). And then he uses the european date format.

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[Rengga Jati]

Although there are many such kinds of proofs about it, we can't still admit that the person that you are talking about is the real "Satoshi Nakamoto'. Whether it is true or not, in fact, Satoshi is not willing to discover. So, we will not know about him forever. He has convinced himself to remain anonymous regarding this. And we don't know whether he is 1 person or more than 1 person. And the location used does not necessarily imply that he lives there.

[maxreish]

Okay, so what if he lives in London and works at night time?
We all know, he left and wanted to stay anonymous so digging some datas like this won't change the fact that he was a great founder of this special and advanced technology.

I'm also wondering what if he used VPN and that direct his location to London? Since the purpose is not to trace and locate him so the data may also be possible that it can't be London or wheresoever. One thing, the article predicted it already as one person but in reality, no one still knew if Nakamoto is only one or a group of people, right?

[steampunkz]

Oh wow, this kind of interesting because. We have now little chance to discover Satoshi, what is he doing in London? Maybe he/she is studying at college while doing some work with bitcoin there?

[Paycoinzzz]

Satoshi really wants anonymity and he has the money to travel and work there. According to the chainbulletin article, most of the evidence is predictable according to vague data. So it will be difficult to be sure who Satoshi is, but no matter where he lives, the Crypto market still dump and pump like normal. Anyway, he really deserves the Nobel Prize if he shall appear. 

[BitcoinFX]

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Is it possible Hal Finney coded that client?

In your 2nd bitcoin.org link, Satoshi writes the word "synchronising" in the entry from "01 Nov 2008". Americans never spell synchronizing as "synchronising" unless they are being cheeky (my browser spellcheck even underlines the British version as a spelling error). And then he uses the european date format.

It is perhaps feasible that Hal Finney contributed to building these early wallet releases, however I feel it was more likely to of been 'satoshi'.

I somewhat err towards the Times quote in the genesis block and certain use of British English spelling by satoshi to be intentional misdirection.

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It is interesting to note that the 1st snapshot for bitcoin.org in the web archive did not seem to capture (or save) the wallet images ...

1st available snapshot ... January 31st 2009 ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20090131115053/http://bitcoin.org/

2nd available snapshot ... March 3rd 2009 ...

- https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/

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03/01/2009 =

3rd January 2009

or

1st March 2009

Obviously the latter date format is after the actual date within the screen shot, although it is perhaps likely a LAN 'testnet' or mock up.

Another interesting point is that the 1st snapshots unavailable screen shots are respectively labeled;

screen1.png and screen2.png

Whilst the 2nd snapshots available screen shots are labeled;

screen3.png and screen4.png

Do we, for example, assume that these are the same or different screenshots and/or why were they changed or relabeled on the server ?

Also see:

Date format by country
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country

 

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"It is the same and at the same time it is not the same.
It is different and it is not different"
- Zen saying

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"Stop talking, stop thinking, and there is nothing you will not understand.
Return to the Root and you will find the Meaning;
Pursue the Light, and you will lose its source ...
There is no need to seek Truth;
only stop having views."
- Seng-ts'an/Sosan (d. 600)

 

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Bitcoin would not be Bitcoin without Hal. Perhaps in many ways Hal was 'satoshi'.

However, Nakamoto is/was seemingly the originator of the code base.

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=382374.0

Satoshi already told us "I am not Dorian Nakamoto".

 

P.S. I can make these posts and folks no longer even bat an eyelid ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4359615.msg55605550#msg55605550

P.P.S. If you seek the source you might find him!

Finding satoshi's is half the fun, right ...

- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5165538.msg54950273#msg54950273

 

[Mrengage]

Pretty surprising research.

https://chainbulletin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-while-working-on-bitcoin-heres-how-we-know/

Seems consistent with Barely Sociable's youtube video.

Do you guys think that this is further proof of Adam Back being Satoshi, or would you consider someone else?

It is also interesting that Craig Wright chose London when trying to scam people into believing he's Satoshi - do you guys think he knew more than the public, making his scam more elaborate?

These are some pretty exciting revelations.

Nice findings, few newbies like you don't even know the Finder or the creator of Bitcoin talk less of to know what Bitcoin is used for.

[yazher]

To be honest, I expected the very high price increase in Bitcoin, making some people curious about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto.
But many people have tried hard to find clues about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto in the end, finally found a dead end. Because
Satoshi Nakamoto was too good at hiding his identity, no one could trace his whereabouts at this time. So my suggestion is to stop
by wasting time looking for Satoshi's whereabouts, it's better to use our time to analyze Bitcoin's movements. That is much more useful,
because it can help make profit from Bitcoin.

Satoshi Nakamoto has mastered the art of hiding without a trace maybe his ancestors were ninjas. back to the topic, there are lots of theories of his whereabouts the old man in google search has even clear his identity because lots of speculators has to suspect him for not telling the truth, poor old man though. The reason for this is people are looking for someone who is good at hiding. If those people don't stop, there will be lots of innocent people to be identified as Satoshi Nakamoto.

[20kevin20]

Speaking from personal esperience and thoughts: when you want to hide something, you will try to do and think everything out well before you start actually hiding it. Satoshi more than likely knew people would be going heavily after him if Bitcoin ever became a successful project, and so he more than likely planned his entire Internet existence very well.

I'd imagine he even went for some stuff such as using prepaid disposable SIM cards as his Internet connection, which today is quite hard to do considering the new (at least European) restrictions on purchasing prepaid cards. Faking your timezone is quite easy to do (and mostly doesn't even require intentionally faking it). Each of us has a different daily schedule, so he may be a night owl just as well as being an "early bird". His time activity doesn't say much, or at least nothing to rely on as an information imo.

One particular thing I've thought about is that he might've even used one of his closest friends (or co-workers) to write the Internet  posts and BTC Whitepaper for him. That makes it very easy for me to pose as a native American, British or whatever on the Internet.

Let's not forget something: Satoshi has created the banking system's Enemy. I am pretty sure he went all in and looked for the best and safest ways to keep his identity anonymous before he even leaked a single word about his project on the web. Hence, I really think trying to find his real identity will only end up as a now-even-larger mystery with even more questions than we had before.

What if he specifically changed his working schedule just to fake his timezone?
What if he used the British news specifically to make us believe he's British?
What if someone else actually wrote all those posts instead of him, and he was just the mastermind behind them?

It's all a mystery. He created it, he launched it, he wanted his privacy. Let us give at least that much back to him as a reward.

[serjent05]

What if he specifically changed his working schedule just to fake his timezone?
What if he used the British news specifically to make us believe he's British?
What if someone else actually wrote all those posts instead of him, and he was just the mastermind behind them?

It's all a mystery. He created it, he launched it, he wanted his privacy. Let us give at least that much back to him as a reward.

I agree..., this will then conclude that everything in that article is an assumption.  It is not 100% correct nor considered as a fact since, Satoshi wanting to hide his identity will surely use methods that will conceal his timezone, place, and probably even his Machine hardware ID.

The title of the article is way more convincing than the proof laid out on its body.

[Timmzzy]

Pretty surprising research.

https://chainbulletin.com/satoshi-nakamoto-lived-in-london-while-working-on-bitcoin-heres-how-we-know/

Seems consistent with Barely Sociable's youtube video.

Do you guys think that this is further proof of Adam Back being Satoshi, or would you consider someone else?

It is also interesting that Craig Wright chose London when trying to scam people into believing he's Satoshi - do you guys think he knew more than the public, making his scam more elaborate?

These are some pretty exciting revelations.

Back when I started learning crypto I was told that the founder of Bitcoin was just no where to be found. And the funniest part is when I asked if he died they said No that he just went missing in thin air. As time goes on am seeing different headlines on trying to know his whereabouts.

[Question123]

Until now there is a lot of people are looking for the real Satoshi Nakamoto there is a lot prediction or possible about that person and many people give some information but we did not know if it's legit or not. Because Satoshi want a private life so that they are hiding his/her self to the public because they know how it is dangerous once the people know their own Identity.

I would like to say the real Satoshi is very smart because even there is a lot of smart people try to track him/her they still not find it so it means the creator of the bitcoin is very intelligent person.

[tyz]

Check the date format ...



Bitcoin.org snapshot 3rd March 2009.

Source: https://web.archive.org/web/20090303195936/http://bitcoin.org/

Is it possible Hal Finney coded that client?

In your 2nd bitcoin.org link, Satoshi writes the word "synchronising" in the entry from "01 Nov 2008". Americans never spell synchronizing as "synchronising" unless they are being cheeky (my browser spellcheck even underlines the British version as a spelling error). And then he uses the european date format.

Interesting find. As I wrote a little bit earlier in this thread, there was a research project some time ago which examined all posts Satoshi has made on Bitcointalk.org (could not find the link quickly). In some posts he typically used British phrases a non-British wouldn't usually use. However, in other posts he used typical American English phrases and words. On the other hand, the timestamps of his posts suggest that he probably comes from the American continent, if one were to use the typical working hours as a basis. Nevertheless, many indicators also point to a European origin. In summary, I believe Satoshi were several people from (at least) the US and Europe.

[loopes]

this reasearch is amazing enough, nice idea to make a riset using scattergraph timestaps of many resources although there will still be some bias for defining certain timezone where Satoshi Nakamoto stay while working activities, another matching theory like analyzing about Bitcoin genesis block and the embedded message "The Times 03/Jan/2009 Chancellor on brink of second bailout for banks" give more confidence for london as big suspected speculation town where sathosi live

[lifeforcepools]

Even if we can assume that Satoshi lived in London, this does not affect the explanation of the riddle - " Who is Satoshi?"

[maartenhaha]

Great article, I really enjoyed this story in the rainy season and it was quite entertaining discussing it in our community. We have confirmed Satoshi Nakamoto as an anonymous and that is unique to cryptocurrency, just a waste of time if you are looking for his identity.

[MateoDoorbell]

Wherever or whatever placed Satoshi Nakamoto was not a big deal. Maybe he is hiding for his security purposes.Since I am engage in crypo last 2010 ,I am very curious who he is.I am sad also because I have no idea before that btc is special.If I know maybe i am bagging many btc.Nowadays,Its hard to locate the founder esp. the btc value is getting higher and keep soaring.All we have to do is to be thankful that there's a person who created digital money or btc for us to pay digitally that we used  during this pandemic.

[daarul50]

Leave satoshi alone!
If he willing to reveal about himself he will do it through the easiest way and undeniable.
The above proof clearly insuficient.

What if he specifically changed his working schedule just to fake his timezone?
What if he used the British news specifically to make us believe he's British?
What if someone else actually wrote all those posts instead of him, and he was just the mastermind behind them?

It's all a mystery. He created it, he launched it, he wanted his privacy. Let us give at least that much back to him as a reward.

I agree..., this will then conclude that everything in that article is an assumption.  It is not 100% correct nor considered as a fact since, Satoshi wanting to hide his identity will surely use methods that will conceal his timezone, place, and probably even his Machine hardware ID.

The title of the article is way more convincing than the proof laid out on its body.

People never tired digging/creating stories when it comes to breaking this satoshi mystery.
That is what makes satoshi special and bitcoin itself as a revolutional invention.
I am not convinced at all with this story.

[franky1]

sorry but the UK timezone . where the 'no post' majority is between 7am and 1pm does not prove he lived in a UK bodyclock regime.

its funny how people then try to twist the data into new context such as:
"all geeks/nerds/hackers dont have a 9am-10pm awake body clock, they all have nocternal body clocks"
or
"maybe he programmed to send replies at certain times of day to hide when he actually is awake"

yes his grammar was british english as oppose to american/australian english. but that is not any proof of location of living.

sorry but this post history and grammar research data has been discussed dozens of times over the last decade and the end conclusion is that its not new news and proves nothing
the only thing possible to deem is that the probability of him being japanese is low

[Cling18]

It's interesting analysis, but it won't help much to discover Satoshi identity since it's not proof, but mere possibility. Additionally the analysis uses assumption that Satoshi follow common sense.

Legit proof is what we really need to know who the real Satoshi is. However, wherever he is right now I believe that he still deserves peace and privacy because that's the path that he had chosen despite the existence of Bitcoin. These assumptions and conclusions still couldn't prove us anything. I'm sure that he has his own reason why he's keeping his life in private if ever he's still existing.