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Post by: BitcoinEXpress on March 25, 2014, 03:33:04 PM
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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 03:44:25 PM
Poor BCX,

He has been proven wrong. Reputation been torn to shreds.

Now his true intentions come to the surface.



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Post by: broken_pixel on March 25, 2014, 03:50:35 PM
BCX can we make little crypto babies together?  :-*

All jokes set aside, happy times, what is your take on MintCoin? Not trying to derail the thread just asking for your opinion is all and do not know if you would even answer a PM if I sent one?


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 03:57:30 PM
Poor BCX,

He has been proven wrong. Reputation been torn to shreds.

Now his true intentions come to the surface.




Hey moron, AUR hasn't hit block 5400 yet, KGW doesn't deploy until then.

You might educate yourself first before posting.


~BCX~

Haha...LOL.

Angry are we?

I'm implying that you were screaming scam from the beginning and your being proven wrong.

Go ahead, try to destroy the blockchain out of spite like the little baby you are.

Just remember, what goes around comes around.


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Post by: r3wt on March 25, 2014, 03:59:36 PM
hands up if you believe the AUR coin dev?


*cricket cricket*


well.. that was awkward


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Post by: broken_pixel on March 25, 2014, 04:00:25 PM
I never sent a PM, I figured it would be ignored.

Thanks or the reply.


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Post by: V8x8d on March 25, 2014, 04:00:55 PM
Poor BCX,

He has been proven wrong. Reputation been torn to shreds.

Now his true intentions come to the surface.




Hey moron, AUR hasn't hit block 5400 yet, KGW doesn't deploy until then.

You might educate yourself first before posting.


~BCX~

Haha...LOL.

Angry are we?

I'm implying that you were screaming scam from the beginning and your being proven wrong.

Go ahead, try to destroy the blockchain out of spite like the little baby you are.

Just remember, what goes around comes around.

Are you one of the many bagholders? I have no idea why anyone would invest in a 50% pre-mine (they deserve to lose their money).


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 04:05:28 PM
Poor BCX,

He has been proven wrong. Reputation been torn to shreds.

Now his true intentions come to the surface.




Hey moron, AUR hasn't hit block 5400 yet, KGW doesn't deploy until then.

You might educate yourself first before posting.


~BCX~

Haha...LOL.

Angry are we?

I'm implying that you were screaming scam from the beginning and your being proven wrong.

Go ahead, try to destroy the blockchain out of spite like the little baby you are.

Just remember, what goes around comes around.

Are you one of the many bagholders? I have no idea why anyone would invest in a 50% pre-mine (they deserve to lose their money).

Nope, not a bagholder.  Just an early adopter that made a nice profit and got out.


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 04:14:48 PM

Let's give the Auroracoin Devs some credit!

Without any plan of action or mechanism anywhere, even on the Auroracoin homepage, the devs were able to notify the entire population of Iceland, educate the entire population of Iceland on what crypto is in the first place, teach them to use crypto and distribute the coins with an astounding 2-3% already cashing in. All of this in less than 45 days after launch!

This has to go down as the most amazing logistics maneuver in the history of the planet!



~BCX~ 

Supposedly, the night before the airdrop one of the major news networks in Iceland had a story on it. 

Also, supposedly roughly half the population tuned in...so yeah Icelanders are being educated on Crypto. 

Connect the dots, it will eventually lead them to the almighty BTC.  I don't see this as a bad thing.


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Post by: eightspaces on March 25, 2014, 04:14:55 PM
BCX good job man, can u make a "BCX Questions & Answer thread"
so we can ask questions and then u answer?

that would be awesome I mean u are an icon here. u R like the god of shitcoin discussion, the Hitler of altcoins

I like the constant hatred u set, devoting ur time to crushing all these coins.

looking forward to ur thread man... ;)  ::)


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Post by: podizzle on March 25, 2014, 04:26:13 PM
bitcoinexpress is a scam he is nothing but a realsolid sock puppet


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Post by: kalus on March 25, 2014, 04:34:34 PM
I love how is BCshitpress lying and lying to try save his reputation. There was almost 1 000 000 USD trades one day, yea dev could make nice there moron. So much about liquidity.
some of this activity was from the inner circle exchanging currency themselves during slow times to stuff the order books.  a few people maintained the illusion of interest during the 2 dumpings this coin has taken in less than a month.  


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 04:43:55 PM
I love how is BCshitpress lying and lying to try save his reputation. There was almost 1 000 000 USD trades one day, yea dev could make nice there moron. So much about liquidity.
some of this activity was from the inner circle exchanging currency themselves during slow times to stuff the order books.  a few people maintained the illusion of interest during the 2 dumpings this coin has taken in less than a month.  

Really, dumbass.  I'm certainly not an insider.  However, I can say that I had huge buy orders set at low prices and the price bounced off of those a few times, which prevented the price from dropping further.

Kalus, who are you?  BCX's fucking groupie?  You follow him around everywhere sucking his dick in every thread.  You're pathetic.


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Post by: BohemianStalker on March 25, 2014, 04:47:37 PM
I love how is BCshitpress lying and lying to try save his reputation. There was almost 1 000 000 USD trades one day, yea dev could make nice there moron. So much about liquidity.
some of this activity was from the inner circle exchanging currency themselves during slow times to stuff the order books.  a few people maintained the illusion of interest during the 2 dumpings this coin has taken in less than a month.  

Really, dumbass.  I'm certainly not an insider.  However, I can say that I had huge buy orders set at low prices and the price bounced off of those a few times, which prevented the price from dropping further.

Kalus, who are you?  BCX's fucking groupie.  You follow him around everywhere sucking his dick in every thread.  You're pathetic.

well said mate :D

I am just laughing how one of the "most feared altcoin hacker!" lost all his credibility .


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Post by: eightspaces on March 25, 2014, 04:48:59 PM
I am just laughing how one of the "most feared altcoin hacker!" lost all his credibility .

He's the Hitler of the altcoin world


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Post by: Tomatocage on March 25, 2014, 05:03:30 PM
ROFL thank you! It's about time someone starts wiping out these useless alts...


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Post by: r3wt on March 25, 2014, 05:04:37 PM
ROFL thank you! It's about time someone starts wiping out these useless alts...

please clarify for the peanut gallery who you were addressing?


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Post by: Tomatocage on March 25, 2014, 05:05:59 PM
ROFL thank you! It's about time someone starts wiping out these useless alts...

please clarify for the peanut gallery who you were addressing?

Danny.


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Post by: r3wt on March 25, 2014, 05:07:10 PM
ROFL thank you! It's about time someone starts wiping out these useless alts...

please clarify for the peanut gallery who you were addressing?

Danny.

Huh is that his first name? i always got the impression english was a second language for him.


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Post by: broken_pixel on March 25, 2014, 05:09:33 PM
bitcoinexpress is a scam he is nothing but a realsolid sock puppet

He is RealSolid..... Stay tuned.  :P


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Post by: BohemianStalker on March 25, 2014, 05:10:47 PM
bitcoinexpress is a scam he is nothing but a realsolid sock puppet

He is RealSolid..... Stay tuned.  :P

The fun fact is so far he destroyed some shit coins, today he wants to attacka coin with a nation behind it. Will be funny when they got to him because of this haha.


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Post by: r3wt on March 25, 2014, 05:14:52 PM
bitcoinexpress is a scam he is nothing but a realsolid sock puppet

He is RealSolid..... Stay tuned.  :P

i can see it.


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 05:22:13 PM
bitcoinexpress is a scam he is nothing but a realsolid sock puppet

He is RealSolid..... Stay tuned.  :P

Nobody is attacking his ability as a hacker.

However, I for one, am attacking his character and his morality.

He is being proven wrong.  AUR is not a scam.  

His original intent was to destroy the coin before the airdrop so as to prevent the scam from occuring.  

Now he wants to destroy the coin out of spite, in effect destroying any value of the coin for those who hold it, including many Icelanders new to crypto.

Cognitive Dissonance much?


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Post by: Watchy312 on March 25, 2014, 05:26:50 PM
He is not proved wrong in the sense it could still be a scam


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 05:35:27 PM
He is not proved wrong in the sense it could still be a scam

Really Watchy?

The price hit .16 AUR per bitcoin.  Liquidity at that time was quite high.  Dev didn't move a single coin at that time, however he could have and in doing so run off with millions.

Now he's going to do it now that the airdrop is underway and the spotlight is on Auroracoin at this time, as evidenced by all the news stories in Iceland.  I think not...

Furthermore, Icelanders on Facebook and Twitter are claiming they've received their coins. 

However, I'm sure the dev has profited from the AUR rise.  I'm sure he was one of the first miners when difficulty was low and made a nice profit already...DURRR...why is this so hard to believe?  Maybe he's still holding coin, who knows?

The point is, he hasn't scammed anyone and if he we're going to he would have done it before the lights got too bright.


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Post by: kalus on March 25, 2014, 05:49:08 PM
Really, dumbass.  I'm certainly not an insider.  However, I can say that I had huge buy orders set at low prices and the price bounced off of those a few times, which prevented the price from dropping further.
exhibit 'A'.

thanks for playing!

crass manipulation is what a national currency should be all about.


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Post by: kalus on March 25, 2014, 05:54:40 PM
attacka coin with a nation behind it.

what nation is this?  which nation has decided to back auroracoin officially?

not iceland.    it's a foreign currency imposed on iceland. 


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 05:55:33 PM
Really, dumbass.  I'm certainly not an insider.  However, I can say that I had huge buy orders set at low prices and the price bounced off of those a few times, which prevented the price from dropping further.
exhibit 'A'.

thanks for playing!

Nope. Sorry for your poor reading skills.

My point was that I'm not an insider.

Get back to your groupie work...LOL.  I'll be waiting for you to echo his thoughts on his next thread.


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 05:58:34 PM
attacka coin with a nation behind it.

what nation is this?  which nation has decided to back auroracoin officially?

not iceland.    it's a foreign currency imposed on iceland. 

Look out everyone. 

We got a real brainiac here.


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Post by: Watchy312 on March 25, 2014, 06:04:21 PM
He is not proved wrong in the sense it could still be a scam

Really Watchy?

The price hit .16 AUR per bitcoin.  Liquidity at that time was quite high.  Dev didn't move a single coin at that time, however he could have and in doing so run off with millions.

Now he's going to do it now that the airdrop is underway and the spotlight is on Auroracoin at this time, as evidenced by all the news stories in Iceland.  I think not...

Furthermore, Icelanders on Facebook and Twitter are claiming they've received their coins.  

However, I'm sure the dev has profited from the AUR rise.  I'm sure he was one of the first miners when difficulty was low and made a nice profit already...DURRR...why is this so hard to believe?  Maybe he's still holding coin, who knows?

The point is, he hasn't scammed anyone and if he we're going to he would have done it before the lights got too bright.
Indeed it is insanely surprising the dev have not cashed in because in today world very few people don't care much about money so...
the dev not being able to really cash in loads before, though being weak, is still imo the most solid possibility

Other possiblities are :
- the dev is an extremely nice dude or/and an insanely proud dude
- Auroracoin real goal is to wreck chaos across Iceland
- something else?


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Post by: hellscabane on March 25, 2014, 06:04:39 PM

I get that you suspected this coin to be a scam - I really do.  But being surprised with 1.59% national penetration(and counting) in under one day really means you don't know anything about Iceland.  If something hits the evening news(on BOTH channels) as well as (BOTH) online news outlets, it will spread like wildfire through literal word of mouth as well as online social media.  I not only got myself hooked up with AUR this morning, but also my parents, my roommate and 2 other close friends(and more to come tonight.)  I'm going to bet there are others going out of their way to help the less tech-savvy with the process as well.

Considering 1.59% of 330.000 is only 5247 - if early adopters help along people close to them using my own effort as the average, that's 874 tech savvy individuals acting as the backbone to help the effort along.

Is that really so far fetched?

So here's my appeal:

Could you at least let this play out for a while beyond block 5400(if the chain survives that long in its current state) and then with full right rub it in our faces if it becomes absolutely clear that this is in fact a scam like you've been saying all along.  Can't you just this once have a little bit of faith and not destroy what could in the long run end up as a good thing just because you have a personal vendetta against altcoins in general? Besides, if this is a scam, that baldur person won't be able to hide in a community as small as Iceland's.  He'll have a lot worse things coming his way than what you could ever accomplish just by breaking the chain if people find out he was dumping the premine.

Evening news on RÚV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCMsSdMo2ME
Evening news on Stöð 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyz_zFcuhDw

Visir.is news article: http://www.visir.is/nyr-rafeyrir-ad-nafni-auroracoin-er-ollum-islendingum-faanlegur-fra-midnaetti/article/2014140329388
Mbl.is news article: http://www.mbl.is/vidskipti/frettir/2014/03/25/byrjad_ad_utdeila_auroracoin/

Facebook page with 2700 likes(as of this writing): https://www.facebook.com/auroracoin.org

Edited for clarity


Thank you for making this post. I was really interested in finding articles on this. I think it is intriguing that the website had traffic problems shortly after the start of the airdrop.

I will say that I'm still on the fence regarding the veracity and legitimacy of the airdrop. I think there needs to be more compelling evidence regarding the distribution. Sure the buzz via Facebook/Twitter is great and so forth, but does it mean that the redemption has so far gone according to plan? If this news has permeated the entire country, wouldn't there be more of a clamor to get their coins? Since this is tied with national identifiers, is there any way to show which parts of the country has had a higher percentage of redemption or something to that effect? Just curious.

It still boils down to proving that this isn't some sort of elaborate scheme using multiple wallets to launder funds. After all, with more coins being distributed, liquidity is much higher which would increase the maximum of possible cashout despite a lower exchange rate.


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 06:20:43 PM
Really, dumbass.  I'm certainly not an insider.  However, I can say that I had huge buy orders set at low prices and the price bounced off of those a few times, which prevented the price from dropping further.
exhibit 'A'.

thanks for playing!

Nope. Sorry for your poor reading skills.

My point was that I'm not an insider.

Get back to your groupie work...LOL.  I'll be waiting for you to echo his thoughts on his next thread.

Really, dumbass.  I'm certainly not an insider.  However, I can say that I had huge buy orders set at low prices and the price bounced off of those a few times, which prevented the price from dropping further.
exhibit 'A'.

thanks for playing!

crass manipulation is what a national currency should be all about.

Way to edit your post to make yourself look better.

Not only are you a brainless follower, but also a huge douche.


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Post by: illodin on March 25, 2014, 06:20:47 PM
Other possiblities are :
- the dev is an extremely nice dude or/and an insanely proud dude
- Auroracoin real goal is to wreck chaos across Iceland
- something else?

- honest
- crazy
- already wealthy
- mined early like many others who saw the potential
- wants to make a difference

The answer however is probably a little bit of each.  :D


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Post by: Azeh on March 25, 2014, 06:26:04 PM
Other possiblities are :
- the dev is an extremely nice dude or/and an insanely proud dude
- Auroracoin real goal is to wreck chaos across Iceland
- something else?

- honest
- crazy
- already wealthy
- mined early like many others who saw the potential
- wants to make a difference

The answer however is probably a little bit of each.  :D

Forgot a couple of other possibilities:
-loves his country
-hates the banks


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Post by: numbl on March 25, 2014, 06:38:51 PM

I will say that I'm still on the fence regarding the veracity and legitimacy of the airdrop. I think there needs to be more compelling evidence regarding the distribution. Sure the buzz via Facebook/Twitter is great and so forth, but does it mean that the redemption has so far gone according to plan? If this news has permeated the entire country, wouldn't there be more of a clamor to get their coins? Since this is tied with national identifiers, is there any way to show which parts of the country has had a higher percentage of redemption or something to that effect? Just curious.


Well, there are currently two ways to verify nationality; both of whom work sporadically, I'm sad to say.  I had problems claiming my coins at first because the system is too anal comparing data between systems and I had to actually contact one institution to change my public information in order to get the authentication to work.  But essentially, they are verifying data against the national registry, Facebook(don't like that one in the least) and Mobile SMS authentications. They seem to also be trying to work an official govt backed login system into the mix as well(which would almost completely seal the deal on legitimizing claims to the premine.)  But as to visualizing the data; from what little they expose to the public, I can only guess they are logging social registry data to keep track of claims as they give out a nice warning on the website that the same social id can't claim their share more than once if you try to double-claim it :)  So with that data in hand they could most certainly come up with a graph of some sort - but I'm not sure as to the legality of publicizing such a chart.  Then again, they might also just be hashing the data for security reason... So I can't say for sure.


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Post by: BohemianStalker on March 25, 2014, 06:38:59 PM
bitcoinexpress is a scam he is nothing but a realsolid sock puppet

He is RealSolid..... Stay tuned.  :P


http://twitter.com/zarquonsknees

This is realsolid. It has to be. Look at this guy's Twitter post from Aug 21, 2011 which also happens to be the very first day that the original Solidcoìn launched. That was Realsolid's first foray into Crypto. This info first surfaced back in 2011 so it is nothing new. At that time this guy was linked via Linked to Ken Armitt of CryptoXchange via a common company in Melbourne called Quest Software. Now bcx and Realsolid being the same individual makes totasl sense as their personalities are similar.


Interesting. Because I spill so many hate posts on BCex few people already contacted me if I know his true identity. They were willing to pay big amounts of bitcoins for it. Oh maybe they just want to shake his hand :D:D


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Post by: ebliever on March 25, 2014, 06:43:19 PM
attacka coin with a nation behind it.

what nation is this?  which nation has decided to back auroracoin officially?

not iceland.    it's a foreign currency imposed on iceland. 

Cryptocurrency is not "foreign", it is local to ALL of us. Let THEM decide if they want it or not. I'm amazed at the hostility being shown against Auroracoin and Icelanders without a shred of evidence.

In science it is critical that an idea to be testable to be considered "scientific." So I suggest you Auroracoin-haters make your beliefs testable: propose criterion by which everyone can see whether it is a scam or not.

Taking hostile action at Block 5400 (or any other time) in the absence of unambiguous evidence of a scam is equivalent to violently assaulting someone on the street because you vaguely imagine they are up to no good. And you ought to be held accountable for the damage caused.

Just as wrecking a national currency through malevolent manipulation could likely lead to jail sentences, destroying cryptocurrency of real value out of spite also ought to put you up for a jail sentence. Think about it.


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Post by: BohemianStalker on March 25, 2014, 06:47:39 PM
attacka coin with a nation behind it.

what nation is this?  which nation has decided to back auroracoin officially?

not iceland.    it's a foreign currency imposed on iceland. 

Cryptocurrency is not "foreign", it is local to ALL of us. Let THEM decide if they want it or not. I'm amazed at the hostility being shown against Auroracoin and Icelanders without a shred of evidence.

In science it is critical that an idea to be testable to be considered "scientific." So I suggest you Auroracoin-haters make your beliefs testable: propose criterion by which everyone can see whether it is a scam or not.

Taking hostile action at Block 5400 (or any other time) in the absence of unambiguous evidence of a scam is equivalent to violently assaulting someone on the street because you vaguely imagine they are up to no good. And you ought to be held accountable for the damage caused.

Just as wrecking a national currency through malevolent manipulation could likely lead to jail sentences, destroying cryptocurrency of real value out of spite also ought to put you up for a jail sentence. Think about it.
Well BCex propably wants to make 330 000 new enemies in one day. For his own sake I hope there is none rich Icelander buying all the auras. Or even some group. The consequences could be...bad..


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Post by: poornamelessme on March 25, 2014, 07:48:04 PM
The thing I find bizarre about this notion is  the assumption the dev just has to be scamming people, and the fact that those who want to kill the coin never even once consider a simple idea  -- that maybe they are wrong.

Yeah, it's possible it's all a scam. Same way it's possible that your neighbor is a thief. It doesn't mean you should go over there and set his house on fire, just because he could possibly be a criminal.

I wonder how much of this is due to preconceived notions based on what they (they meaning the shitcoin killing devs) would do with such a premine? They probably would cash out the premine, so assume everyone else would do so too.

And I'm not saying this can't be a scam. Nor that the coin is even worthwhile. It's just wrong to assume it's a scam without any proof, however. I do think they underestimate how much exposure the coin has gotten, as has been mentioned already -- national news, politicians talking about it, etc. Exposure most alts can only dream about.

Trying to kill the coin would seemingly go against common sense, as well, as news of the coin failing won't help cryptos in any way ... and that includes bitcoin. So besides becoming enemies of Icelandic people, it very well could make enemies of anyone who holds bitcoins too.


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Post by: tokyoghetto on March 25, 2014, 07:56:59 PM
BCX can't go to jail for mining a coin. It just so happens that he can be more than 51% of most network hashrates. Forks happen all the time its the nature of the beast. Perhaps people are stupid for putting a multi-million dollar valuation on a blockchain that can be forked by such little hashing power.

I see nothing wrong with this.


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Post by: ebliever on March 25, 2014, 08:26:13 PM
BCX can't go to jail for mining a coin. It just so happens that he can be more than 51% of most network hashrates. Forks happen all the time its the nature of the beast. Perhaps people are stupid for putting a multi-million dollar valuation on a blockchain that can be forked by such little hashing power.

I see nothing wrong with this.

AUR has a value established by free markets. You see nothing wrong with deliberately destroying or degrading that value out of malice?

If Icelanders come to value this windfall and then BCX deliberately damages the value of their holdings, I could see a hue and cry from the Icelandic population demanding that their government do something. It would not be hard to imagine them charging him with any manner of infractions having to do with property damage, vandalism, financial wrongdoing, you name it - and seeking to extradite him.


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Post by: micryon on March 25, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
I actually think realsolid is a cool dude.. mcxnow.com is by far one of the best trading platforms. 

When there was a bug, and my MAX coins were temporarily lost, he actually fixed it and returned it and sent me a PM about the recovery.. (wasn't expecting that in this crazy crypto world)

So if it is realsolid, he's got my vote of confidence.. ;)


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Post by: Wipeout2097 on March 25, 2014, 08:33:36 PM
attacka coin with a nation behind it.

what nation is this?  which nation has decided to back auroracoin officially?

not iceland.    it's a foreign currency imposed on iceland.  

Cryptocurrency is not "foreign", it is local to ALL of us. Let THEM decide if they want it or not. I'm amazed at the hostility being shown against Auroracoin and Icelanders without a shred of evidence.
One thing is the rest of your post, and discussing in context of a thread wanting to attack AUR. Quite another is counter-arguing against kalus view, which is 100% correct.

All cryptos are foreign. Do I have the power of voting on a referendum if I don't want penetration of some crypto in my country? No, I do not.
 
This "let THEM decide if they want it or not" is just gunboat diplomacy



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Post by: ihavenousername on March 25, 2014, 08:54:26 PM
BCX can't go to jail for mining a coin. It just so happens that he can be more than 51% of most network hashrates. Forks happen all the time its the nature of the beast. Perhaps people are stupid for putting a multi-million dollar valuation on a blockchain that can be forked by such little hashing power.

I see nothing wrong with this.

AUR has a value established by free markets. You see nothing wrong with deliberately destroying or degrading that value out of malice?

If Icelanders come to value this windfall and then BCX deliberately damages the value of their holdings, I could see a hue and cry from the Icelandic population demanding that their government do something. It would not be hard to imagine them charging him with any manner of infractions having to do with property damage, vandalism, financial wrongdoing, you name it - and seeking to extradite him.

The same government which issued a public warning with the impending airdrop?



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Post by: BohemianStalker on March 25, 2014, 09:13:21 PM
BCX can't go to jail for mining a coin. It just so happens that he can be more than 51% of most network hashrates. Forks happen all the time its the nature of the beast. Perhaps people are stupid for putting a multi-million dollar valuation on a blockchain that can be forked by such little hashing power.

I see nothing wrong with this.

AUR has a value established by free markets. You see nothing wrong with deliberately destroying or degrading that value out of malice?

If Icelanders come to value this windfall and then BCX deliberately damages the value of their holdings, I could see a hue and cry from the Icelandic population demanding that their government do something. It would not be hard to imagine them charging him with any manner of infractions having to do with property damage, vandalism, financial wrongdoing, you name it - and seeking to extradite him.

The same government which issued a public warning with the impending airdrop?



Yea the same smartass. Because they dont want AUR to influence their country. But it did. And now the politicians will do what public will demand, if it does not cost them. And blaming one person for everything certainly is the way goverments work for centuries, in case you have not noticed.


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Post by: Wipeout2097 on March 25, 2014, 09:35:56 PM
BCX can't go to jail for mining a coin. It just so happens that he can be more than 51% of most network hashrates. Forks happen all the time its the nature of the beast. Perhaps people are stupid for putting a multi-million dollar valuation on a blockchain that can be forked by such little hashing power.

I see nothing wrong with this.

AUR has a value established by free markets. You see nothing wrong with deliberately destroying or degrading that value out of malice?

If Icelanders come to value this windfall and then BCX deliberately damages the value of their holdings, I could see a hue and cry from the Icelandic population demanding that their government do something. It would not be hard to imagine them charging him with any manner of infractions having to do with property damage, vandalism, financial wrongdoing, you name it - and seeking to extradite him.

The same government which issued a public warning with the impending airdrop?



Yea the same smartass. Because they dont want AUR to influence their country. But it did. And now the politicians will do what public will demand, if it does not cost them. And blaming one person for everything certainly is the way goverments work for centuries, in case you have not noticed.
It's terrible that people actually prefer to be governed by the ones they elect, than by foreign idiots, shills and trolls on the internet ...  ::)


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Post by: Hazard on March 25, 2014, 09:41:29 PM
I actually think realsolid is a cool dude.. mcxnow.com is by far one of the best trading platforms.  

When there was a bug, and my MAX coins were temporarily lost, he actually fixed it and returned it and sent me a PM about the recovery.. (wasn't expecting that in this crazy crypto world)

So if it is realsolid, he's got my vote of confidence.. ;)

You must have missed the part where he manipulated the MCXFEE market to the tune of swindling $8,000,000 out of investors. ::)


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Post by: lphelps on March 25, 2014, 09:58:05 PM
okay now that AUR is real and it's being accepted by it's population, maybe you fucking numbnuts can start buying to drive the price up?!?

It's low now... Jump in and drive it up to help benefit the investors and the citizens of Iceland that have theirs..


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Post by: ihavenousername on March 25, 2014, 10:07:40 PM
BCX can't go to jail for mining a coin. It just so happens that he can be more than 51% of most network hashrates. Forks happen all the time its the nature of the beast. Perhaps people are stupid for putting a multi-million dollar valuation on a blockchain that can be forked by such little hashing power.

I see nothing wrong with this.

AUR has a value established by free markets. You see nothing wrong with deliberately destroying or degrading that value out of malice?

If Icelanders come to value this windfall and then BCX deliberately damages the value of their holdings, I could see a hue and cry from the Icelandic population demanding that their government do something. It would not be hard to imagine them charging him with any manner of infractions having to do with property damage, vandalism, financial wrongdoing, you name it - and seeking to extradite him.

The same government which issued a public warning with the impending airdrop?



Yea the same smartass. Because they dont want AUR to influence their country. And now the politicians will do what public will demand, if it does not cost them. And blaming one person for everything certainly is the way goverments work for centuries, in case you have not noticed.

Politicians do what the public demand? You've actually made my day with that comment  ;D

The point I was trying to make the government has done its duty by issuing a public warning.

The governments want to protect their respective banking systems, not crypto.


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Post by: ZeroBarrier on March 25, 2014, 10:11:14 PM
okay now that AUR is real and it's being accepted by it's population, maybe you fucking numbnuts can start buying to drive the price up?!?

It's low now... Jump in and drive it up to help benefit the investors and the citizens of Iceland that have theirs..

Here's an even better idea. Let the people of Iceland buy these fucking worthless coins to drive up the price if they want it to have any value. Why should I or anyone else here give them free money?


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Post by: usahero on March 25, 2014, 10:12:29 PM
I actually think realsolid is a cool dude.. mcxnow.com is by far one of the best trading platforms.  

When there was a bug, and my MAX coins were temporarily lost, he actually fixed it and returned it and sent me a PM about the recovery.. (wasn't expecting that in this crazy crypto world)

So if it is realsolid, he's got my vote of confidence.. ;)

You must have missed the part where he manipulated the MCXFEE market to the tune of swindling $8,000,000 out of investors. ::)

it was around 2 million, because fee shares costed around 80$-100$ (0.4 btc @ 200-250$/btc) and he sold around 20-25k mcxfees. Most mcxfees were sold when btc was 200$.

 So stop with the bullshit.



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Post by: lphelps on March 25, 2014, 10:32:41 PM
okay now that AUR is real and it's being accepted by it's population, maybe you fucking numbnuts can start buying to drive the price up?!?

It's low now... Jump in and drive it up to help benefit the investors and the citizens of Iceland that have theirs..

Here's an even better idea. Let the people of Iceland buy these fucking worthless coins to drive up the price if they want it to have any value. Why should I or anyone else here give them free money?

you're an idiot.. buy them to pump them up and then sell them when they go up to a value you like.. you make money in the end.. isn't that's how all these fucking crypto currencies work??

anyone that's still calling this a shitcoin, must have had an Icelandic person shit on them... otherwise I don't understand what the fucking problem is..


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Post by: kalus on March 25, 2014, 10:35:01 PM
attacka coin with a nation behind it.

what nation is this?  which nation has decided to back auroracoin officially?

not iceland.    it's a foreign currency imposed on iceland.  

Cryptocurrency is not "foreign", it is local to ALL of us. Let THEM decide if they want it or not. I'm amazed at the hostility being shown against Auroracoin and Icelanders without a shred of evidence.

1. this is not just a cryptocurrency, it's billed as a cryptocurrency for the nation of iceland.

2. it's an icelandic currency, yet there is no formal recognition of this currency by nation of iceland.

3. developer is not icelandic, but based in panama.

ergo, it's a currency that is being imposed not internally by domestic icelandic org, but externally from latin america.  This would be similar to Honduras making a crypto-USD and promoting this as a cryptocurrency for the nation of USA.
 
My evidence is the developer team being based in panama, not Iceland.  The Icelandic government, which represents the Icelandic people, considers this to be a scam.  


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Post by: rikkejohn on March 25, 2014, 11:09:53 PM
Iceland is a neighbour to me, and the population could quite easily adopt a cryptocurrency. Iceland is modern, technologically advanced, wealthy, educated (don't take that for meaning clever) and has a great sense of itself as independent.

However, it is conservative and is bound to its traditions, like most small countries on the edge of the world. Iceland would adopt the Krona in cryptoform as long as it was a simple extension of the current Krona.

Iceland will not adopt someone else's vision, especially given the vision is the type off financial manipulation that Iceland fought just a few years back.



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Post by: rikkejohn on March 25, 2014, 11:13:50 PM
BCX can't go to jail for mining a coin. It just so happens that he can be more than 51% of most network hashrates. Forks happen all the time its the nature of the beast. Perhaps people are stupid for putting a multi-million dollar valuation on a blockchain that can be forked by such little hashing power.

I see nothing wrong with this.

AUR has a value established by free markets. You see nothing wrong with deliberately destroying or degrading that value out of malice?

If Icelanders come to value this windfall and then BCX deliberately damages the value of their holdings, I could see a hue and cry from the Icelandic population demanding that their government do something. It would not be hard to imagine them charging him with any manner of infractions having to do with property damage, vandalism, financial wrongdoing, you name it - and seeking to extradite him.

The same government which issued a public warning with the impending airdrop?



Yea the same smartass. Because they dont want AUR to influence their country. And now the politicians will do what public will demand, if it does not cost them. And blaming one person for everything certainly is the way goverments work for centuries, in case you have not noticed.

Politicians do what the public demand? You've actually made my day with that comment  ;D

The point I was trying to make the government has done its duty by issuing a public warning.

The governments want to protect their respective banking systems, not crypto.


Governments are not a single breed. Some are slaves of the masses, others are not.

Western democracies, in my opinion, have the most servile governments of all.

Mob rule will always get its way at the end of the day.


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Post by: BohemianStalker on March 25, 2014, 11:17:46 PM
BCX can't go to jail for mining a coin. It just so happens that he can be more than 51% of most network hashrates. Forks happen all the time its the nature of the beast. Perhaps people are stupid for putting a multi-million dollar valuation on a blockchain that can be forked by such little hashing power.

I see nothing wrong with this.

AUR has a value established by free markets. You see nothing wrong with deliberately destroying or degrading that value out of malice?

If Icelanders come to value this windfall and then BCX deliberately damages the value of their holdings, I could see a hue and cry from the Icelandic population demanding that their government do something. It would not be hard to imagine them charging him with any manner of infractions having to do with property damage, vandalism, financial wrongdoing, you name it - and seeking to extradite him.

The same government which issued a public warning with the impending airdrop?



Yea the same smartass. Because they dont want AUR to influence their country. And now the politicians will do what public will demand, if it does not cost them. And blaming one person for everything certainly is the way goverments work for centuries, in case you have not noticed.

Politicians do what the public demand? You've actually made my day with that comment  ;D

The point I was trying to make the government has done its duty by issuing a public warning.

The governments want to protect their respective banking systems, not crypto.

I like how you act like a total retard bolding only part of my sentence. GL THERE BUDDY YOU STILL THE WINNER


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Post by: ZeroBarrier on March 26, 2014, 12:00:37 AM
you're an idiot..

You're pumping this piece of shit and yet somehow I'm the idiot?

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buy them to pump them up and then sell them when they go up to a value you like.. you make money in the end.. isn't that's how all these fucking crypto currencies work??

Again, why should I have to buy this fucking scam coin to pump it, let the people of Iceland buy it and pump it all they wish; that is of course if this is really a cryptocurrency for Iceland.  ::)

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anyone that's still calling this a shitcoin, must have had an Icelandic person shit on them... otherwise I don't understand what the fucking problem is..

No one is calling this a shitcoin, we're calling it what it actually is, a fucking scam. And if you can't understand what the problem is, then you're the one who's actually the idiot here; not me.


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Post by: micryon on March 26, 2014, 12:08:47 AM
Iceland is a neighbour to me, and the population could quite easily adopt a cryptocurrency. Iceland is modern, technologically advanced, wealthy, educated (don't take that for meaning clever) and has a great sense of itself as independent.

As i posted in the AUR thread a month ago.. i think it's a worthwhile experiment.  If there's any country in the world where this *might* actually work.  It would be Iceland.

  Small enough population for this to take affect
  Relatively high standard of living
  Technologically capable, and educated populace
  Screwed over recently by banks

For these reasons i supported AUR by mining it, sold 1/2 my stake when it was at 150.. but kept the rest to see what happens (guess that was a mistake, hehe).. but still , I think it's going to be interesting to see what they do with it. 

It will be a good data point for where the future of crypto and national governments could be come... and thus we should just let it be, and let the experiment run its course...



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Post by: toknormal on March 26, 2014, 01:33:16 AM
No one is calling this a shitcoin, we're calling it what it actually is, a fucking scam.

What a clueless remark.


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Post by: Djinou94 on March 26, 2014, 01:46:16 AM
Scam? Why?

The airdrop is a success! the price drop is normal Icelandic converted into bitcoin, when the entire distribution will be made the price will rise again

Now its Aphrodite time  8)


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Post by: lphelps on March 26, 2014, 02:10:07 AM
Scam? Why?

The airdrop is a success! the price drop is normal Icelandic converted into bitcoin, when the entire distribution will be made the price will rise again

Now its Aphrodite time  8)



You didn't answer the question.

What makes you sure the devs aren't the "Air Drop" wallets?


~BCX~

you know I am totally convinced that you are to gain in all of this... you and your fucking minions are all driving the price down so you can buy as much as you can on the cheap and then it will eventually pump and then you'll do what you did today with dumping it... then you start the whole fucking cycle again..

I'm buying more as soon as it gets to it's low point and holding until it makes really good gains..... 


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Post by: poornamelessme on March 26, 2014, 02:19:04 AM

you know I am totally convinced that you are to gain in all of this... you and your fucking minions are all driving the price down so you can buy as much as you can on the cheap and then it will eventually pump and then you'll do what you did today with dumping it... then you start the whole fucking cycle again..

I'm buying more as soon as it gets to it's low point and holding until it makes really good gains..... 

The price is going down simply because people are cashing the coins out -- not because the group is somehow influencing price. It's logical and expected with any airdrop. Free coins = people cashing them out.

I am really against calling the coin a scam, or any coin a scam, until an actual scam is committed, however. Let the market decide if a coin is a success or not... no need to fork/hack/ddos to try to force the issue. I may be against this shit coin killing group, but I wouldn't blame them for the price drop. It'd happen regardless, unless an existing infrastructure existed so people could spend the coins on goods.


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Post by: literally josef stalin on March 26, 2014, 02:43:53 AM
hi, i got my free computer money today. this stuff made natnl. news ( http://www.visir.is/auroracoin-dreift-til-allra.../article/2014140209342 , http://www.visir.is/islensk-rafmynt-haekkar-hratt-i.../2014140309719 , http://m.visir.is/Vidskipti/Frett?ArticleID=2014140329388 ) no, i don't expect you to be able to read it

but hey! i cashed in asap (since i have an aversion to tulip mania, libertarians and fictitious capital in general), exchanged it to the buttcoin and am now literally (LITERALLY(actually, only figuratively)) on the edge of my seat, waiting for some idiot nerd to pay me w/ something that i can spend. on goods. and services. thanks.


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Post by: ZeroBarrier on March 26, 2014, 02:49:37 AM
you know I am totally convinced that you are to gain in all of this... you and your fucking minions are all driving the price down so you can buy as much as you can on the cheap and then it will eventually pump and then you'll do what you did today with dumping it... then you start the whole fucking cycle again..

I'm buying more as soon as it gets to it's low point and holding until it makes really good gains..... 

Minion? No, I have a brain and can use my intellect on my own just fine.

I wouldn't touch this piece of shit with a hundred foot pole while wearing a biohazard suit. You and your marry band of AUR pumpers can keep each and every single satoshi you scam from people, no skin off my back; but guess what, nothing is stopping me from trying to educate some of the users here to stay away from the 50% pre-mined scams going on.

Let's start with some basics. Can anyone here prove any of these incorrect?

No AUR infrastructure in Iceland, no way to use this scam coin in Iceland
No way to 100% verify that 330,000 Icelanders actually got any AUR
No way to 100% verify that the dev and his team aren't behind the vast majority of the air drop wallets

hi, i got my free computer money today. this stuff made natnl. news ( http://www.visir.is/auroracoin-dreift-til-allra.../article/2014140209342 , http://www.visir.is/islensk-rafmynt-haekkar-hratt-i.../2014140309719 , http://m.visir.is/Vidskipti/Frett?ArticleID=2014140329388 ) no, i don't expect you to be able to read it

but hey! i cashed in asap (since i have an aversion to tulip mania, libertarians and fictitious capital in general), exchanged it to the buttcoin and am now literally (LITERALLY(actually, only figuratively)) on the edge of my seat, waiting for some idiot nerd to pay me w/ something that i can spend. on goods. and services. thanks.

If this user is indeed from Iceland, he proves my first point perfectly. I imagine that the dev has to give out AUR to at least some of the Icelandic people in order to maintain the scam under wraps and continue to dump at a controlled rate to maximize the amount of BTC he reaps from this little show.


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Post by: kelsey on March 26, 2014, 02:54:03 AM
Scam? Why?

The airdrop is a success! the price drop is normal Icelandic converted into bitcoin, when the entire distribution will be made the price will rise again

Now its Aphrodite time  8)



You didn't answer the question.

What makes you sure the devs aren't the "Air Drop" wallets?


~BCX~

you know I am totally convinced that you are to gain in all of this... you and your fucking minions are all driving the price down so you can buy as much as you can on the cheap and then it will eventually pump and then you'll do what you did today with dumping it... then you start the whole fucking cycle again..

I'm buying more as soon as it gets to it's low point and holding until it makes really good gains..... 



lol then u dont know BCX


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Post by: hellscabane on March 26, 2014, 03:00:36 AM

I will say that I'm still on the fence regarding the veracity and legitimacy of the airdrop. I think there needs to be more compelling evidence regarding the distribution. Sure the buzz via Facebook/Twitter is great and so forth, but does it mean that the redemption has so far gone according to plan? If this news has permeated the entire country, wouldn't there be more of a clamor to get their coins? Since this is tied with national identifiers, is there any way to show which parts of the country has had a higher percentage of redemption or something to that effect? Just curious.


Well, there are currently two ways to verify nationality; both of whom work sporadically, I'm sad to say.  I had problems claiming my coins at first because the system is too anal comparing data between systems and I had to actually contact one institution to change my public information in order to get the authentication to work.  But essentially, they are verifying data against the national registry, Facebook(don't like that one in the least) and Mobile SMS authentications. They seem to also be trying to work an official govt backed login system into the mix as well(which would almost completely seal the deal on legitimizing claims to the premine.)  But as to visualizing the data; from what little they expose to the public, I can only guess they are logging social registry data to keep track of claims as they give out a nice warning on the website that the same social id can't claim their share more than once if you try to double-claim it :)  So with that data in hand they could most certainly come up with a graph of some sort - but I'm not sure as to the legality of publicizing such a chart.  Then again, they might also just be hashing the data for security reason... So I can't say for sure.

I suppose that's fair. I guess since this isn't a coordinated effort with the government, you can't really use a nationally given personal identifier (like a SSN in the US). At least it seems fairly reasonable. After all, there aren't too many other ways to have a verification system without government ID. It might not be the "fairest" way to distribute (I'm confident there are lots of people that don't use and don't care to use Facebook), but at least it's a start I suppose.

Thanks for your response! It's cleared up a lot of questions that I've had.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: kalus on March 26, 2014, 04:56:44 AM
hi, i got my free computer money today.
nice!  what computer did you get?

what was the method auroracoin uses for identifying icelanders?  Þjóðskrá? island.is?



Title: Re: delete
Post by: damiano on March 26, 2014, 05:03:38 AM
All country coins are scams.  Just got to get out before everyone else does



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Post by: Atruk on March 26, 2014, 05:24:04 AM
bitcoinexpress is a scam he is nothing but a realsolid sock puppet

He is RealSolid..... Stay tuned.  :P

i can see it.

Historically BCX has been one of RealSolid's most dedicated trolls and debunkers. Hard to see them being a sock in this way.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: ZeroBarrier on March 26, 2014, 09:51:45 AM
I'm buying more as soon as it gets to it's low point and holding until it makes really good gains..... 

You know, you look like a very smart, intelligent and all around savvy investor. Just the type of person I've been looking for. I have some amazing beach front property up in Colorado that I'd love you to invest in; sand, surf, beautiful I tell you. You would make a killing by investing now while it's cheap!!!

Don't forget most of these guys have only been around a few months at most.

This newest crop of 2014 newbies makes the 2011 Solidcoin RS minions look like Mensa candidates.


~BCX~

Mensa, this makes me think you're either Mexican or live somewhere on the west coast lol.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: HCLivess on March 26, 2014, 11:53:29 AM
aurora got rekt


Title: Re: delete
Post by: eightspaces on March 26, 2014, 05:31:49 PM
P.S.: Fuck you and your fucking pic.

Thank u brother!

He is not pro-AUR, but pro-BCX .... and somehow, for whatever twisted reason, thinks associating Hitler with BCX is a positive thing.

Read the thread better, you obviously fail to understand that I am by no means pro-BCX

LOL. By the way I have nothing against Aurora at all

~BCX~ is the Hitler of the altcoin world, randomly hating hard on everything that doesnt fit into his likings


Title: Re: delete
Post by: poornamelessme on March 26, 2014, 05:41:07 PM

Read the thread better, you obviously fail to understand that I am by no means pro-BCX

LOL. By the way I have nothing against Aurora at all

~BCX~ is the Hitler of the altcoin world, randomly hating hard on everything that doesnt fit into his likings

That was my impression at first, then you stated this in that same thread:

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You misunderstand my thread.  I am in favor of the Fuhrer BCX

Guess you were being sarcastic or something. Anyway, I do think the pic is rather tasteless, regardless.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: CryptoClub on March 28, 2014, 02:21:04 AM
hands up if you believe the AUR coin dev?


*cricket cricket*


well.. that was awkward

lol...

 ;D


Title: Re: delete
Post by: eightspaces on March 28, 2014, 02:21:55 AM
Anyway, I do think the pic is rather tasteless, regardless.
+1


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Beef Supreme on March 28, 2014, 02:34:48 AM
I love how is BCshitpress lying and lying to try save his reputation. There was almost 1 000 000 USD trades one day, yea dev could make nice there moron. So much about liquidity.
some of this activity was from the inner circle exchanging currency themselves during slow times to stuff the order books.  a few people maintained the illusion of interest during the 2 dumpings this coin has taken in less than a month.  

Really, dumbass.  I'm certainly not an insider.  However, I can say that I had huge buy orders set at low prices and the price bounced off of those a few times, which prevented the price from dropping further.

Kalus, who are you?  BCX's fucking groupie?  You follow him around everywhere sucking his dick in every thread.  You're pathetic.

Man I busted out laughing at that last part.  Thanks for that.


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Post by: s1gs3gv on March 28, 2014, 02:36:06 AM
I do think the pic is rather tasteless, regardless.

Since when has good taste been a prerequisite for bitcointalk membership ?


Title: Re: delete
Post by: r3wt on March 28, 2014, 02:54:50 AM
~BCX~ lives in Melbourne region, Australia FYI.

It all makes so much sense now.


Title: Re: delete
Post by: Beef Supreme on March 28, 2014, 03:06:44 AM
Several folks in this thread are up for the old ignore list.  lphelps has been on it, but unfortunately people quote it and I end up having to see that Dogshit on the sidewalk anyway.  Hitler pic guy, you are teetering on it.  Don't know what to make of you yet.

I had another thread where I was gonna ignore BCX, but after listening for a while I got the feeling the guy knew what he was talking about.  Cannot say I agree with being proactive killing projects, just sounds mean for some reason.  Like putting the stomp Johnson on someone's science project. 

The free market will take care of those in due time.



Title: Re: delete
Post by: GigaCoin on March 28, 2014, 02:58:14 PM
Auroracoin along with a lot of new piece of shit coins like spaincoin greececoin whatever are and have always been scams.



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Post by: digitalindustry on March 28, 2014, 04:34:41 PM
P.S.: Fuck you and your fucking pic.

Thank u brother!

He is not pro-AUR, but pro-BCX .... and somehow, for whatever twisted reason, thinks associating Hitler with BCX is a positive thing.

Read the thread better, you obviously fail to understand that I am by no means pro-BCX

LOL. By the way I have nothing against Aurora at all

~BCX~ is the Hitler of the altcoin world, randomly hating hard on everything that doesnt fit into his likings

heey come on he's not randomly hating this is healthy competition - this says AUR is right in there, these guys are trying to look after their playbook (which is probably LTC and BTC)

its just a job.

I really don't think anyone is listing to this forum but, not credibly anyhow.