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The holiday season for the Christian is to celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. The essence of this season is to give joy, love and gifts to show that in one long year despite of hardships, challenges and the conflicts among the people around could be reunite especially if within the family. So, this is why I am thinking also if it is possible for the bitcoin family especially to Satoshi Nakamoto to give love and share gifts through bitcoin.

Although we know that the account under Satoshi Nakamoto with silver coins below his account name is no longer active but with the slightest hope and possiblities that he could show up. I was thinking of possible reason with how possible that Satoshi Nakamoto will show up and these are the following.

Possible reason for Satoshi Nakamoto to show up,

1. It is christmas and time for giving off message, love and gifts.
2. This year 2020 is not really a good year due to pandemic. There are lot of challenges specifically in financial aspects. Many individuals around the world has lost their jobs usually the low income earners.
3. We had missed already Satoshi on his words of wisdom that had inspired bitcoiners to utilize the system the way he wanted to happen.
4. Many members here also wanting to get a news about bitcoin system if there could be possible upgrade especially that bitcoin has high transaction fees and to promote faster bitcoin network.
5. From the gamblers, a possible lottery jackpot staking bitcoin addresses to win the reward. We know that gambling business is one of the good reason in the utilization of bitcoin so it must be rewarded.

Anyway, whether he will going to show up or not it will not going to matter in my case because we have already bitcoin from he's legacy for us to enjoy. We have theymos that had been with us always here in the forum and that would do already good for us.

But, I still need to know the chance or possibility.

1. Is there a chance that before the year end there will be a sort of giving or sharing of bitcoin?
2. Is there a chance Satoshi to show up?


Lastly, I just wanted to greet Merry Christmas to all christians and non christians

"Isang Ligtas na araw po sa inyong lahat!"

It's been more than a decade. What makes you think Satoshi would suddenly re-appear this year?

Also with the "Bitcoin upgrade" part, unless Satoshi is actually a developer right now under a different name, then he couldn't just simply push out updates just because he wanted to.

Satoshi created bitcoin to be completely decentralized in a way he himself or they themselves remained pseudonymous since 10 years ago. With what people are thinking, Satoshi's work has been completed to create bitcoin and was successfully created. Satoshi's work is not to give people bitcoin.

But, people that like and wants to give bitcoin can give it. Just see bitcoin as an asset and a real money with intrinsic value. So far commodities like gold can be given by anyone while fiat can also be given by anyone, also bitcoin can be given by anyone. No need to centralize this on Satoshi Nakamoto. Although, he created bitcoin but not the owner of bitcoin.

People should also be careful of scammers, because there is nothing scammers can not do to steal bitcoin from someone, for example during free giveaways.

Satoshi has not been around for a little over a decade so it doesn't make sense to think he would be back next week (Christmas week). As much as I'd like to see that happen, there's a very slim chance of that ever happening. Think of this, Satoshi hasn't showed up for major Bitcoin events that has happened since the inception. Things like hardforks, chain, splits, halvings, strict regulations from government, etc. As for Bitcoin network pitfalls you mentioned (slow transaction speed with high tx fees), there have been several proposals and implementations that seeks to address this such as lightening network payment channels, segwit, etc and more in the near future.

Satoshi already gifted us Bitcoin that provides us with borderless payments. Most of those low income earnings individuals are not even crypto holders so the essence of the giving isn't worthwhile. Moreover, this isn't the first Christmas since Bitcoin was created.

I do not think so if they airdrop big amounts of bitcoin then the price will be affected because those who are not intersted on investing in bitcoin will sell it imeadiatly and the price will go down.

It doesn't mean that if he's not active here means that he's  just chilling in his couch.
Those reasons you mentioned are weak for someone else's reasoning that almost blew the media to just simply pop up out of nowhere.
It's been a decade and a lot of things already happened to the world. All we know he's just doing his daily life and spending time behind a screen.

Sorry, but I'll have to tell you that these reasons are completely BS. It reminds my thread talking about Hal Finney as Satoshi Nakamoto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301062.msg55862417#msg55862417) in which I also used stupid arguments.
(Yes, I admit it :P )

Although I would like to comment every-single of these reasons.

:D

If a mysterious guy sends his bitcoin wealth, if we assume that he still owns anything, to the people do you believe that it'll solve the financial problems caused by this year? Do you actually believe that it'll help the people or motivate them somehow? Wow...

If he shows up, it's gone. The mystery is gone.

And why is satoshi needed for that? We, people, can work on bitcoin and make it better. That "upgrade" you're referring that only satoshi "could do", is called Lightning network (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network) and it was firstly introduced by Joseph Poon and Thaddeus Dryja.

Even if I never had a discussion with Satoshi Nakamoto, I'm damn sure that he wouldn't give his bitcoins for that.

We also have Tim Berners-Lee (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tim_Berners-Lee), but I didn't see you talking about him. I don't get why you think theymos has done so good to us, just because he is the admin.

Most lamest reasons I've read so far just because it's so called "Christmas".

No offense but Satoshi Nakamoto's don't have any responsibility to give us Bitcoin, rewards, extra prizes, or whatsoever just because it's Christmas. Maybe he will but don't expect that he'll announced to the public that it's him giving giveaways to celebrate Christmas. Besides, what would be the benefit for him if he would do one of the things you've mentioned? none, I guess.

Also, I don't know why everyone is interested on a "person" who vanished 10 years ago and not realizing he just wants his personal space and privacy against the public.

EDIT: Bitcoin is enough gift that Satoshi Nakamoto has given us 10 years ago, and you're welcome.

for who and who does the "Bitcoin giving and sharing". Satoshi probably isn't.

Actually Satoshi is around you, only you don't know Satoshi physically, if you know Bitcoin like that Satoshi always appears in every Bitcoin user, every second, hour, and day.
If you have ever seen Bitcoin physically that's Satoshi and if you only look at the numbers it is also Satoshi, that means: Satoshi appears all the time in all countries and wherever you are, that's Satoshi, you may have found Satoshi if you have found Bitcoin.

Wtf did you wake up posting this BS? What is Satoshi's business with your individual doctrines? He had better invested the bitcoin in more charitable organizations that's one humanitarian service rendered. I'm completely blown off how someone would think bitcoins can be given for free, even when Satoshi launched the network I don't think he gave it out freely for Christmas celebration then why now it is been globally adopted and expensive?

1. The answer is we do not know. Satoshi Nakamoto can show up anytime without telling people or the public when he needs to show up.
2. If Satoshi thinks that he needs to show up, he will do that. He can show up again to the public or making a post here to tell us, "Hi, I am Bro."

Out of that, we must let him decide whether to show himself here or in other media. But I do not think that he will give bitcoin to us as that is a huge amount of bitcoin. But that will make his decision to give some amount of his bitcoin to celebrate this moment.

Went past 9 Christmas seasons already, what makes this one different from the other?
Err I don't think we need to put such high expectations for Satoshi, the mates a human as well, I don't think we should purposely put burdens on his/her shoulders. If he does want to donate for those that were affected, releasing their identity doesn't seem like a requirement to do so. Point is, stop putting these responsibilities for them when in the first place, they have no responsibility for others.
None, they have no need to, and they most probably would not. They've stayed hidden for 9 years, I don't think they'd appear on the 10th for some reason. Well it's a whatever tbh, I honestly don't care whether they show themselves in public or not, I'm just grateful for them making Bitcoin start.

Satoshi hasn't been active for many years, it's likely he will never be active again. It would be completely out of character for him to start raining Bitcoin, as he never did anything even close to that. And even if for the sake of argument we imagine that he wanted to give away Bitcoin, how would he do that? People would immediately create bots and fake accounts to beg for as much BTC as they can. And the possibility of up to 1 million BTC flooding the market would cause a major crash, which Satoshi might not want to happen.

Of course, he will show up, and then free BTC will start falling from the sky and everyone will be rich and happy :D

I understand that children live in some imaginary world of their own, that they believe in Santa Claus - but ideas like this are crazy. Satoshi has disappeared for a reason, and he left us something big as a legacy, so it will never be clear to me why some people think that Bitcoin as a decentralized currency needs some kind of central figure?

Satoshi disappearance is a myth that will never be resolved, I thought so. It can be an accident caused a death or it is simply a disappearance was made by satoshi when he felt he would leave and let the bitcoin community being truly decentralized without him and his contributions. If the second one is true, I doubt that satoshi stopped watching or contributed to bitcoin developments or blockchain developments. Cryptography is his love so he will never stop loving it. As a result of that, some people believed Charlie Lee (the founder of Litecoin) is real Satoshi (I don't think Lee is Satoshi).

Show up, I don't know he will show up this year or in future but I believe he won't. If he shows up, why he need to give away his bitcoin?

I am terrible at winning any form of give- away that involves a randomly selection Of who to win it, we may not need to wait on satoshi for a Give-away this festive season, I have an account on my other social media giving Bitcoins for people who had been in any way Charitable in the pandemic. The account is flooded, satoshi won't come-back for that.

Bitcoin is logical, this forum is logical, you are logical & I am logical. Yes it is not impossible that Satoshi will show up and throw bitcoin among us.
But it is totally  illogical,  irrational to think that someone will come up to us and starting giving us money, commodity, property, Bitcoin without any kind of reason.
It will be better to hear that Santa Claus is coming at Christmas and giving prizes to everyone, Rather than, Satoshi Nakamoto is giving Bitcoin to everyone.  :P

It will create a big impact if Satoshi will decide to show again so I guess this will not happen eiter now or in the future as his actions are kinda scripted like it was being planned in order to protect the bitcoin price.

How many Christmas have passed already since the bitcoin has been created but if he will anonymously drop bitcoin to a random wallets then it will be better so the bitcoin lovers can also receive some gifts from the founder of bitcoin.

I think it doesn't have much of an impact, because part of the total supply is already owned by the investors so that the price drops can only occur when the seller is about to sell it, but until now, seeing the position of bitcoin is still positive, I think it's too early to predict bitcoin will fall more far.

Unlike last ATH, when the price reach it's ATH the price drops faster than before but these year seems different since the price increase we're much focus in btc as well of adoption from known companies. It's quite amazing too that during this Pandemic the price did reach ATH and no sign that dump will start to happen but we need to monitor throughly as BTC is still volatile as ever.

Just a few thoughts.

1) I think Satoshi was Dave Klieman indeed who passed away.

2) I think that, even if not the above, Satoshi has passed away.

3) If I am wrong about (1) and (2) above, I'm confused? Because 'surely' if Satoshi was alive he would have anonymously done

a private seed message on one of the known accounts proving that Craig Wright was a fraud. No fanfare, no announcement..just 1 BTC moved from one

known Satoshi wallet to another known unused and for sure a Satoshi wallet, from back in the day. That is so simple and elegant and I just can't

see Satoshi letting Craig Wright get up in front of folk for $$$ fees etc. Would not happen if Satoshi was alive IMHO. So now even more sure the

options here (1) (2) and (3) cover all the bases and likely correct. Satoshi has 'passed away' sometime in past. :(

4) If all my stuff above is correct that means that ALL that Satoshi Hoard of BTC HODL addresses and such, will never be moved or sold and

can be discounted in the future as they have been discounted from 2009 onward or as of now come January 2020, not an 'issue' for 12 years! :)

Anyway, with the simple making of a seed message using private keys and/or simply moving BTC from 1 wallet to another from the Satoshi Legacy Addresses...

too simple to do. And again, IMHO, if Satoshi was alive, the FAKE Satoshi Craig Wright would have already been slapped down hard as a fake. :)

Brad

OP thinks Satoshi is Santa or what?

If you were an inventor who made something, would you spend Christmas giving it away for free?

Maybe Elon should be giving a free Tesla to everyone and Bill gates should give a free copy of Windows, because it's holiday season ho ho ho! ;D

Not likely a santa but you know big companies had made good profit due to the fact that their workers are motivated and wanted to stay in a company they are working due to some excitement even a little gifts for them. This will be seeing as a sort of motivation for the workers in case to us the bitcoiners. What do you think could happen to the forum when giveaways will be conducted? I think more and more bitcoiners will come over to the forum and enjoy the stay.

Satoshi is not a company CEO.
Bitcoiners are not his employees.
We don't need to be motivated to use Bitcoin.
Satoshi doesn't need to organize giveaways because his idea is already popular.

Also, Satoshi is probably dead...

Apples and oranges.

This doesn't make sense to me because Satoshi doesn't matter anymore and stuffs you have mentioned why Satoshi might show up are far from logical and even if Satoshi make a comeback still it won't matter now because now the Bitcoin market is huge unlike what it was earlier and now one person or institution cannot control Bitcoin originally. Satoshi was the past which doesn't matter anymore.

It's a wild imagination that will never happen.

There's nothing Satoshi does if ever he/they will come back, the price of bitcoin will the same unless if there is a FOMO that happens. The price of bitcoin will be spent on us as a community, not by Satoshi, so even if he/they will come back the price won't ever change if you will expect a sudden growth. The demand and supply of bitcoin were controlling us because we are holders and because of us bitcoin supply has been lessened and the demand will become big and that is the reason bitcoin becomes expensive.

Give us bitcoin? but how? LOL :D

I cannot imagine that Satoshi will show up and plus he will share his Bitcoins. Imagine how market would react to this situation? It would be better that he wouldn"t share. In my opinion it would be his first mistake then...

Give out Bitcoin?  ;D like some kind of a wisard or Santa, I suppose? I'm sorry, but this is as silly as the constant bigfoot hunt named "who is Satoshi Nakamoto"

Even Santa Claus won't share his bitcoins, lol. Secondly, why do you care if Satoshi will show up. There's no need for his showing up, and likely no much effect apart from the news that'll be saying he's back. Let's just focus on what he has given us, and that is Freedom.

Very unlikely. He already made it clear years ago that he wouldn't be revealing himself. All this years bitcoin was able to thrive without his public presence and people are still eager to learn who he is. Like is there a treasure hunt meant for him where whoever will find the real Satoshi will earn something? Because if no is the answer then I don't see the point why we have to waste time and energy looking for a guy that is actively avoiding the public notice. And even if the real one do show up, we'll just shrug him off like he's a dime-a-dozen bitcoin creator claimer. So there's really no point in looking for him because under any circumstance, we will not be able to find him or even recognize him

I'm pretty sure Satoshi Nakamoto wouldn't show up if there weren't any very urgent needs. And all the opinions written
by the opening post weren't strong enough to make Satoshi Nakamoto appear. This discussion has been discussed very often,
and in the end has only generated a lot of speculation. I think just let Satoshi Nakamoto stay anonymous, that's the best
for him and everyone.

Im pretty sure he'll not going to show up even in Christmas day. Many xmas has passed but nothing changed the fact thar Satoshi Nakamoto wanted to stay anonymous forever.

Sharing bitcoin is possible for those who have owned thousands of it. But looking at bitcoin's price right now, Satoshi will remain unknown and untraceable. He already achieved what he wanted to happen for bitcoin. He's contented now.

My question to OP -

Are you sure that the name "Satoshi Nakamoto" represents only one human?

I strongly believe that Satoshi Nakamoto is a name of a group of people behind bitcoin. However, I think they are just doing the right thing by staying anonymous from the prying eye of the enforcement agencies! Because bitcoin is indeed a revolution and governments around the world has found no way to stop this as bitcoin harnesses its power from a decentralized network. So a government just can't visit a single address and shut down the servers.

So now if Satoshi Nakamoto suddenly re-appears, do you think the enforcement agencies will let him live in peace? I certainly don't think so! I wish him/them a Marry Christmas and I wish they live the rest of their life in peace and wealth!

The chance of Satoshi showing up is close to zero.
The pandemic has nothing to do with Bitcoin,why would he decide to show up because of the pandemic?
We don't need a "Bitcoin upgrade". Bitcoin Core is going just fine.
Crypto gamblers don't care about Satoshi Nakamoto.They are only about gambling.
There's no chance of Big Bitcoin giveaways.Why would anyone give away an asset,that is getting more valuable?I don't understand this question.Are you begging for free Bitcoins or something?

Satoshi Nakamoto has around 1,000,000 BTC and maybe one day he will show up to give them away to crypto enthusiasts who own a full node.  This person has done so much for the community that I perceive him as the guardian angel of the first cryptocurrency (Bitcoin).

I believe that Satoshi is still alive and is reading our forum anonymously.  It would be a great Christmas story if he announced it now! 

However, this is not so important.  Bitcoin has already been created.  The Bitcoin network is functioning.  We're all a bit of Satoshi Nakamoto.

I agree that satoshi will never resurface and, what does Christmas has to do with giving away bitcoin? Just because of the "Holiday Spirit" is here means that we should give something away, that is a BS, unless you are a philanthropist or you are just plain generous. satoshi is not a just a one man I do believe and whoever is behind it is a spending the rest of their lives somewhere peaceful, and let them be to be honest.

Satoshi planned to develop Bitcoin in an anonymous way. He wanted it to be successful and at the same time he wanted it to use it around the world without the problems that may arise when there is always a known owner. There will be no partnership that will happen that may cause additional fees, there will be no political issues that may arise, there will be no capitalism that some business owners would grasp because Bitcoin is such a powerful asset. I think Satoshi, hid himself from popularity and publicity because of these.

Me especially having a second thought that the name Satoshi Nakamoto is a fake name, is that really the real name of that dude? Someone going anonymous would not expose his name to be satoshi, instead Craig Wright impersonating on the internet to be fake satoshi, its really awful and weird all around.
Beside, fake satoshi (CW) and anonymous satoshi will never perform giveaway in any form while remaining in a hiding place, can a hiding dude come out to give the public a gift? Impossible.

This is how I think about it too.  If he was going to show up and announce who he really is he would have done it by now I think.
Right now he is a celerity to some of us and he wants to stay anonymous if he is even still living.   For his own safety of threats he will never come into public light. At least I would not If I had his wealth.

Yes, he's going to show up and give us 1 BTC for each merit we have. I have this on good sources. He could easily do it, there's no way we have over 1 million merits circulating around the forum. Maybe we need to start a petition on change.org to remind him that he needs to do this.

They will just abused bitcoin and when they sell it, they will have profit only for themselves and those who really value bitcoin will suffer the most.

Also Satoshi will not show up because the thrill on bitcoin's history will be vanished and also if Satoshi wants a peaceful life during this bull run, then we should let him.

That bitcoin airdrop will not happen because it can really affect a lot of things not only bitcoin's price but also those big investors or big companies who engaged to it.

wth haha . you look serious when you say that because you didnt smile but are you really serious with that ? i have over 100 plus merits here and that would be 100 btc but even 1 btc is already enough for me because thats my only dream hehe.  anyway , i was going to answer that what is the difference of other year to this year but op already counter me before i say it . thats reasonable but ill be fine if i dont get a btc but as long satoshi help those who are really affected and lost thier job and those family that lost a bread winner due to covid virus .

We will know if Satoshi will show up or not later because that will depend on himself. No matter how hard we want him to show up if he still wants to hide, he will not come here.
I know we all curious about him, and we have so many questions to him, but we can not force him, and even we do not know who he is.
But I believe that he or they still watch us from some places without we know.

Even though he/she or a group of people want to render help, that does not warrant an open declaration that I/we am/are Satoshi. We have a lot of ways to do that like charity home, orphanage and a lot of NGO have a domain experience about this. I know that this issue of who is Satoshi will never die a bit as long this earth still remains.

I think this is the main answer for it. Satoshi Nakamoto most likely not to appear because as we all know, he might be under or behind the idea of not showing because people might not need him around. Satoshi will not give any even simple and small amount of bitcoin because it has a lot of ways on earning it. Just like how Satoshi started, we need to put some efforts in order to earn. Satoshi is the founder or the man behind it but ofcourse it because of his hardwork and the urgeness of different ways of earning. Even if it is christmas, satoshi will give nothing.

I really understand that the reason for this thread is to celebrate giving and hope like the Christmas energy.

But then, Satoshi ain’t Santa Claus that will appear on Christmas Eve and give things to provide joy.

Satoshi Nakamoto made Bitcoin to be decentralized, with that being said he himself couldn’t do such ways of giving.  It would hurt the core objective of the crypto.  Let's just respect what is the reason for his hiding or even the real Satoshi wasn't existed at all, who knows.

I really believe Satoshi Nakamoto will not appear, let alone giving Bitcoin is an impossible thing in my opinion. Because Satoshi Nakamoto
knew it would be very dangerous if he appeared, because so many people were looking for him. It's better to be like now and remain
anonymous, because we all don't really need Satoshi Nakamoto's presence. Since we can own Bitcoin without having to know Satoshi
Nakamoto's identity, I think we will let Satoshi Nakamoto live in peace, if it's still alive.

Well, as we want Satoshi to do it on Christmas, this just won’t happen since Satoshi is anonymous and will stay anonymous to keep aiming the bitcoin’s vision and mission. But yes, -- imagine Satoshi giving free coins in the community. That would be a perfect Christmas for us, after all of the support we have given to his platform, I guess we deserve it too! ^{[I have doubt if this will happen, we can able to trace him through the transactions  :D]}
By the way, I had like to greet you all with a Merry Christmas and a Happy Holidays to all of us.

Its been 10 years since Bitcoin was created and until now we havent still seen the glimpse even on Satoshi Nakamotos shadow.There's no one would able to tell on when
he would come out and he do still decide to lurk into the shadows and making himself to be anonymous just like on the creation that he had made.
Are you expecting for some holiday gifts? It isnt really that necessary.

Bitcoin existence is already a give where it do give out opportunities and chances to make money.Its up to someone on how he do deal with things
for his own benefit.