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Hello all,

Update    :-   Bitdouble Username  Thamizhan


I played roulette with faucet,  and won 3mbtc so I withdrawn  1.2mbtc on 30-11-2020 (minimum withdrawal) waited 2 days, withdrawal shows pending. I know withdrawals are manual, it will takes 48 hours.

   I need some emergency money so I contacted mod "obak" via telegram on 02-12-2020.
 he said
"try lightning withdrawal"
 so again I made lightning withdrawal of 2.1mbtc (it's also from faucet)
 waited until lightning invoice expired, suddenly
Raised support ticket. they're not responding, I'll keep calm I understand there situation.
"cause all the faucet fund mistakenly transferred to one of the bitdouble user account so they are working on it"

Got reply mail on 04-12-2020
 "faucet abuse, fraud detected, account suspended"

 so I logged in another account on 06-12-2020

I told them  "After lockdown changed mobile number, and unable to access registered email....explaining everything and they verified unblocked my account on 15-12-2020. In the between they clarify updated rules for faucet I'm too agree to deposit btc.

"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.msg55266011#msg55266011"


After login my account withdrawals shows rejected by moderator, contact support for details. created support ticket waited 2 days no reply so I deposited 4mbtc on 17-12-2020
and withdrawn 6mbtc successfully same day. but still the first 2 withdrawals showing rejected and not back to my account. they clearly mentioned

Again raised tickets more than 8 times untill now they're not responding properly.
posted this issue to  bitcointalk bitdouble page support for players protection.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.1860

Support tickets:
https://prnt.sc/wi52hf
https://prnt.sc/wi5gx8
https://prnt.sc/wi5hzc


Obak convocation:
https://prnt.sc/wi5ucl
https://prnt.sc/wi5uuk
https://prnt.sc/wi5vd6

Withdrawals:
https://prnt.sc/wi609q

Deposit:
https://prnt.sc/wi60ze

since you have provided all necessary information i think you should move this thread to scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 you can also post it on bitdouble's thread so they are aware about this accusation.

This is very interesting clause and I believe this is the reason for you not to get the money withdrawn that  you won from faucet. I have not looked deep in this case since the sum is very little and not worth making one after another posts to spend energy in it.

If you had ask anyone here before receiving the withdrawal about this that they have asked to deposit first before withdrawal then I would say it's a scam. However since they allowed you to withdraw the deposited fund, it means this is just a business strategy for them. Not intending to scam their clients but still this is very risky ask. I would not suggest any business to practice this deposit first method.

It's possible? I'm not good in English it's enough. How to?

How to move this topic in to scam accusation

if you decide to move this thread to scam accusation there is a move button on the bottom left side of the thread or ask a moderator for this thread to be moved via "report to moderator" at the bottom side of the post.

I think it's a common policy for casinos not to allow withdrawing money won with a faucet. Or at least to have strict wagering requirements, so that this won money is used again and again for other bets and then a person can withdraw whatever's still left. I couldn't find such rules on their website, though. Bitdouble has positive trust on the forum, but the account hasn't been active since summer, so I'm not sure you'll get any more explanations from them on the forum, unfortunately.
In any case, you didn't really lose anything, you just weren't able to withdraw what you won with free money, so it's not that bad IMO.

If you are unable to pay out your money, it does not mean you will not be paid at all. If they took your money or closed your account with it, it would be a different story. I would still give them some time to resolve this situation.

I'm not active in bitcointalk last year, not only mine Many people's are not active on this board. So updated terms must include in there FAQ. Or enable pop up warning when request withdrawal.
 
  It's all for misguided from moderator.

Exactly, that's free money overall why OP cried it here by not paying that casino.

The casino will think that he was abused the faucet because he was created another account that linked to the first account that the account made.
Op had successfully withdrawn 6mbtc and I think that is free from the faucet without having any capital to risk, so that is not a problem after all. There's a policy from the casino that users cant able to withdraw from the faucet if they will not have any amount to deposit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.msg55266011#msg55266011

Check the 5th point I met there requirement.

reading the quoted below post below did you made the deposit before you won the money or after you won the money? I think the requirement is you need to deposit before you won using the funds from their faucet and not deposit after you won using the fund from their faucet. sometimes gambling site forgets to clarify things.

 After first withdrawal I contact moderator "obak"  I did what he said... Proofs attached screenshots.

 bitdouble moderator failed his duty... It's bitdouble responsibility.

You don't have to create another topic just to raise more awareness, what difference could I make creating this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5307677.0. Accusation belongs to this board and not on the main Gambling board. You can lock that one. Besides you already informed their main thread as I've seen on your post history just this day.

Thanks for inform to me, I locked that thread. It's enough or have to delete?

Hello !
im obak ( moderator of bitdouble.io)

What is Scam to you bitdouble ??
You have been deposited 4mBtc and withdrawal 6mBtc which is successfully done. You have 2 rejected withdrawal which has been found as faucet abuse.
No casino will refund the money once it fraud detected.



What is has been failed here ?
it was conversation to withdraw via Lighting Network . which has been failed , due to technical errors .

Attention to mod (@Cyrus), it is making a false accusation .

As a moderator you have to inform "don't withdraw without deposit"
When I asked you check telegram chat.

We have been warned all the players before active their faucet and you have been warned more times .

That's enough to lock it because you can't delete a topic unless 24 hrs. or be reported to moderator.

Then you know you have to make a deposit on that yet you still haven't followed it or you just plainly doesn't know that you have to make a deposit before claiming/withdrawing it?

Yes I don't know deposit required before withdrawal, they updated the terms on recently (sep-2020), I'm not active online while lockdown in India.

Can you prove that this informed before? Don't lie.

Chat history are not recorded by moderator . Can you prove that i haven't warned you more time ?
you can ask to any of regular player in chat that there is warning before activating their faucet .

You and bitdouble telegram group blocked me and deleted our conversations, I missed to take screenshot for all chats but enough chats screenshot attached on the accusation forum.

Your accusation is not appropriate and it's false . I request to accusation moderator (@Cyrus) take a look and take action.

Again for you, read our conversation on screenshot.

Support tickets:
https://prnt.sc/wi52hf
https://prnt.sc/wi5gx8
https://prnt.sc/wi5hzc


Obak convocation:
https://prnt.sc/wi5ucl
https://prnt.sc/wi5uuk
https://prnt.sc/wi5vd6

Withdrawals:
https://prnt.sc/wi609q

Deposit:
https://prnt.sc/wi60ze

I can't see anything wrong in this conversation and i have been already replied the answer check previous .

Check the post topic,  you have to let me know "don't withdraw without deposit"   when I asked you about second withdrawal. You misguide me for save your organization fund.

Why should have to warned you every place when i already explained to you in chat . There is some message in above of this conversation too.
am i misguide you ?
you're taking about misguided , well than what about your first withdraw . why didn't your talking about your first withdraw ?

If you inform before why I'm place withdrawal?
You think me a mad!! no one will do....

You got warning too many time .

You're not saying the terms untill my account blocked, after (15-12-2020) unblocking I'm agree to deposit but  withdrawal shows rejected. I contacted support :-  https://prnt.sc/wi52hf

Every time you're quoting and trying to move another way.  This is last and final reply for you . i will not reply and in this thread any more all the answer of this case has been done .
We have been warned all the players before active their faucet . You got warning lot of times and your withdrawal rejected for fraud detected.

Moderator @Cyrus try to look all the comment and take action .

If your withdrawal time was after that update then I think that's not their fault in the first place but at least they should have put a warning that faucet satoshis shouldn't be withdrawn if the user will not deposit first. If they can't be withdrawn then how come it let through even in the first withdrawal?

I was trying to solve this issue last one month, no proper reply on  support tickets, created 8 tickets for support.. don't be acting here. all the attachments with date. I still believe bitdouble keep their reputation.

New proofs.

new user AliceK https://prnt.sc/wj3f1z

asking & giving faucet time 8.38pm in India https://prnt.sc/wj3ej4

now time 8.44pm in India https://prnt.sc/wj3due

he's not post anything about faucet rule after giving first faucet to New user untill 10 minutes.... Refer time from top left corner of screenshot.

Update 1 : https://prnt.sc/wj3u59
 30 minutes over after giving first faucet still no rules found in chat.

 Moderator @cyrus please take action.

Crated support tickets on 26-12-2020 and 06-01-2021 the both tickets are still processing...   Seems they don't care about players
 https://prnt.sc/wk22x5

The issue comes from bitdouble moderator, the bitdouble Admin still not reply anything on this topic.

Who started to promote the bitdouble.io on bitcointalk,I think he's the Admin for bitdouble. But the user is not active from July-05-2020.

Profile link :-
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=875910


 After Relaunching the bitdouble all the posts comes from @Chadme
Profile link :-
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2535130

Relaunching bitdouble on January-2020 link,

 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.msg53744267#msg53744267


 
Right now the bitdouble.io site outdated version, and they are not responding like before crashing the site.
 It seems doubtful may the ownership change..

We are not going to argue with you on this topic in the section that you created, we have enough arguments and proofs

Your ignorance makes me doubtful!!!


Before crashing bitdouble.io trustworthy site. The old Admins behave quite response untill resolve the problems.
Now I have many doubts about bitdouble.io

 The bitdouble.io management is same now?

Can you provide your bankroll details here?

Where is Bitdouble.io official page creator?    
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=875910

Where's chat Admin
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=838185

Why twitter account not active since June 2020.
https://mobile.twitter.com/BitDoubleio

Why you're using outdated website?
https://prnt.sc/wkagzl


Reply ASAP.

Sometimes it will be our disadvantage if we will not read their TOS before playing any casinos as we are not fully aware about the rules or terms that the casino has set to their platform and players especially in terms of withdrawal which is very important. Terms are very long, in short this is the common reason why most of the players won't bother to read the TOS, this also applies to me as sometimes I will not bother reading the TOS if it is very long.

Wagering more than to what you want to withdraw is quite good strategy for bitdouble but a big disadvantage to players as there is a big possibility that you will loss all your money to withdraw before hitting the required requirements for withdrawal.

Did you receive your payment?

Not still...

I can't find you on telegram, you may add me @Crypto73589 Thamizhan   



Can't send you the private message cause you're newbie sorry.

Sent you my personal mobile number through PM,

Or Please join the link.

https://t.me/joinchat/IgxWpTggSRv7c71k

Still there's no conclusion regarding the issue,
If they refund the btc on my account I'm ready to wagering requirements.


Conclusion needed.