Bitdouble Scam-Withdrawal rejected by bitdouble - moderator misguided

[Thamizhan]

Hello all,

Update    :-   Bitdouble Username  Thamizhan


I played roulette with faucet,  and won 3mbtc so I withdrawn  1.2mbtc on 30-11-2020 (minimum withdrawal) waited 2 days, withdrawal shows pending. I know withdrawals are manual, it will takes 48 hours.

   I need some emergency money so I contacted mod "obak" via telegram on 02-12-2020.
 he said
"try lightning withdrawal"
 so again I made lightning withdrawal of 2.1mbtc (it's also from faucet)
 waited until lightning invoice expired, suddenly
Raised support ticket. they're not responding, I'll keep calm I understand there situation.
"cause all the faucet fund mistakenly transferred to one of the bitdouble user account so they are working on it"

Got reply mail on 04-12-2020
 "faucet abuse, fraud detected, account suspended"

 so I logged in another account on 06-12-2020

I told them  "After lockdown changed mobile number, and unable to access registered email....explaining everything and they verified unblocked my account on 15-12-2020. In the between they clarify updated rules for faucet I'm too agree to deposit btc.

"https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.msg55266011#msg55266011"


After login my account withdrawals shows rejected by moderator, contact support for details. created support ticket waited 2 days no reply so I deposited 4mbtc on 17-12-2020
and withdrawn 6mbtc successfully same day. but still the first 2 withdrawals showing rejected and not back to my account. they clearly mentioned

Again raised tickets more than 8 times untill now they're not responding properly.
posted this issue to  bitcointalk bitdouble page support for players protection.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.1860

Support tickets:
https://prnt.sc/wi52hf
https://prnt.sc/wi5gx8
https://prnt.sc/wi5hzc


Obak convocation:
https://prnt.sc/wi5ucl
https://prnt.sc/wi5uuk
https://prnt.sc/wi5vd6

Withdrawals:
https://prnt.sc/wi609q

Deposit:
https://prnt.sc/wi60ze

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[bunglor]

since you have provided all necessary information i think you should move this thread to scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 you can also post it on bitdouble's thread so they are aware about this accusation.

[AB de Royse777]

4. Bonuses given out and winnings received for these funds CANNOT BE WITHDRAWAL.

This is very interesting clause and I believe this is the reason for you not to get the money withdrawn that  you won from faucet. I have not looked deep in this case since the sum is very little and not worth making one after another posts to spend energy in it.

I told them  "After lockdown changed mobile number, and unable to access registered email....explaining everything and they verified unblocked my account on 15-12-2020. In the between they clarify updated rules for faucet I'm too agree to deposit btc.

If you had ask anyone here before receiving the withdrawal about this that they have asked to deposit first before withdrawal then I would say it's a scam. However since they allowed you to withdraw the deposited fund, it means this is just a business strategy for them. Not intending to scam their clients but still this is very risky ask. I would not suggest any business to practice this deposit first method.

[Thamizhan]

since you have provided all necessary information i think you should move this thread to scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 you can also post it on bitdouble's thread so they are aware about this accusation.

It's possible? I'm not good in English it's enough. How to?

[Thamizhan]

How to move this topic in to scam accusation

[acroman08]

since you have provided all necessary information i think you should move this thread to scam accusation https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0 you can also post it on bitdouble's thread so they are aware about this accusation.

It's possible? I'm not good in English it's enough. How to?

if you decide to move this thread to scam accusation there is a move button on the bottom left side of the thread or ask a moderator for this thread to be moved via "report to moderator" at the bottom side of the post.

[kryptqnick]

I think it's a common policy for casinos not to allow withdrawing money won with a faucet. Or at least to have strict wagering requirements, so that this won money is used again and again for other bets and then a person can withdraw whatever's still left. I couldn't find such rules on their website, though. Bitdouble has positive trust on the forum, but the account hasn't been active since summer, so I'm not sure you'll get any more explanations from them on the forum, unfortunately.
In any case, you didn't really lose anything, you just weren't able to withdraw what you won with free money, so it's not that bad IMO.

[gadado]

If you are unable to pay out your money, it does not mean you will not be paid at all. If they took your money or closed your account with it, it would be a different story. I would still give them some time to resolve this situation.

[Thamizhan]

I'm not active in bitcointalk last year, not only mine Many people's are not active on this board. So updated terms must include in there FAQ. Or enable pop up warning when request withdrawal.
 
  It's all for misguided from moderator.

[ReiMomo]

~snip~
In any case, you didn't really lose anything, you just weren't able to withdraw what you won with free money, so it's not that bad IMO.

Exactly, that's free money overall why OP cried it here by not paying that casino.

The casino will think that he was abused the faucet because he was created another account that linked to the first account that the account made.
Op had successfully withdrawn 6mbtc and I think that is free from the faucet without having any capital to risk, so that is not a problem after all. There's a policy from the casino that users cant able to withdraw from the faucet if they will not have any amount to deposit.

[Thamizhan]

~snip~
In any case, you didn't really lose anything, you just weren't able to withdraw what you won with free money, so it's not that bad IMO.

Exactly, that's free money overall why OP cried it here by not paying that casino.

The casino will think that he was abused the faucet because he was created another account that linked to the first account that the account made.
Op had successfully withdrawn 6mbtc and I think that is free from the faucet without having any capital to risk, so that is not a problem after all. There's a policy from the casino that users cant able to withdraw from the faucet if they will not have any amount to deposit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.msg55266011#msg55266011

Check the 5th point I met there requirement.

[acroman08]

~snip~
In any case, you didn't really lose anything, you just weren't able to withdraw what you won with free money, so it's not that bad IMO.

Exactly, that's free money overall why OP cried it here by not paying that casino.

The casino will think that he was abused the faucet because he was created another account that linked to the first account that the account made.
Op had successfully withdrawn 6mbtc and I think that is free from the faucet without having any capital to risk, so that is not a problem after all. There's a policy from the casino that users cant able to withdraw from the faucet if they will not have any amount to deposit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.msg55266011#msg55266011

Check the 5th point I met there requirement.

reading the quoted below post below did you made the deposit before you won the money or after you won the money? I think the requirement is you need to deposit before you won using the funds from their faucet and not deposit after you won using the fund from their faucet. sometimes gambling site forgets to clarify things.

I told them  "After lockdown changed mobile number, and unable to access registered email....explaining everything and they verified unblocked my account on 15-12-2020. In the between they clarify updated rules for faucet I'm too agree to deposit btc.

[Thamizhan]

~snip~
In any case, you didn't really lose anything, you just weren't able to withdraw what you won with free money, so it's not that bad IMO.

Exactly, that's free money overall why OP cried it here by not paying that casino.

The casino will think that he was abused the faucet because he was created another account that linked to the first account that the account made.
Op had successfully withdrawn 6mbtc and I think that is free from the faucet without having any capital to risk, so that is not a problem after all. There's a policy from the casino that users cant able to withdraw from the faucet if they will not have any amount to deposit.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1609928.msg55266011#msg55266011

Check the 5th point I met there requirement.

reading the quoted below post below did you made the deposit before you won the money or after you won the money? I think the requirement is you need to deposit before you won using the funds from their faucet and not deposit after you won using the fund from their faucet. sometimes gambling site forgets to clarify things.

I told them  "After lockdown changed mobile number, and unable to access registered email....explaining everything and they verified unblocked my account on 15-12-2020. In the between they clarify updated rules for faucet I'm too agree to deposit btc.

 After first withdrawal I contact moderator "obak"  I did what he said... Proofs attached screenshots.

 bitdouble moderator failed his duty... It's bitdouble responsibility.

[rhomelmabini]

You don't have to create another topic just to raise more awareness, what difference could I make creating this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5307677.0. Accusation belongs to this board and not on the main Gambling board. You can lock that one. Besides you already informed their main thread as I've seen on your post history just this day.

[Thamizhan]

You don't have to create another topic just to raise more awareness, what difference could I make creating this one https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5307677.0. Accusation belongs to this board and not on the main Gambling board. You can lock that one. Besides you already informed their main thread as I've seen on your post history just this day.

Thanks for inform to me, I locked that thread. It's enough or have to delete?

[Chadme]

After login my account withdrawals shows rejected by moderator, contact support for details. created support ticket waited 2 days no reply so I deposited 4mbtc on 17-12-2020
and withdrawn 6mbtc successfully same day. but still the first 2 withdrawals showing rejected and not back to my account. they clearly mentioned

Hello !
im obak ( moderator of bitdouble.io)

What is Scam to you bitdouble ??
You have been deposited 4mBtc and withdrawal 6mBtc which is successfully done. You have 2 rejected withdrawal which has been found as faucet abuse.
No casino will refund the money once it fraud detected.

 After first withdrawal I contact moderator "obak"  I did what he said... Proofs attached screenshots.

 bitdouble moderator failed his duty... It's bitdouble responsibility.

What is has been failed here ?
it was conversation to withdraw via Lighting Network . which has been failed , due to technical errors .

Attention to mod (@Cyrus), it is making a false accusation .

[Thamizhan]

After login my account withdrawals shows rejected by moderator, contact support for details. created support ticket waited 2 days no reply so I deposited 4mbtc on 17-12-2020
and withdrawn 6mbtc successfully same day. but still the first 2 withdrawals showing rejected and not back to my account. they clearly mentioned

Hello !
im obak ( moderator of bitdouble.io)

What is Scam to you bitdouble ??
You have been deposited 4mBtc and withdrawal 6mBtc which is successfully done. You have 2 rejected withdrawal which has been found as faucet abuse.
No casino will refund the money once it fraud detected.

 After first withdrawal I contact moderator "obak"  I did what he said... Proofs attached screenshots.

 bitdouble moderator failed his duty... It's bitdouble responsibility.

What is has been failed here ?
it was conversation to withdraw via Lighting Network . which has been failed , due to technical errors .

Attention to mod (@Cyrus), it is making a false accusation .

As a moderator you have to inform "don't withdraw without deposit"
When I asked you check telegram chat.

[Chadme]

As a moderator you have to inform "don't withdraw without deposit"
When I asked you check telegram chat.

We have been warned all the players before active their faucet and you have been warned more times .

[rhomelmabini]

Thanks for inform to me, I locked that thread. It's enough or have to delete?

That's enough to lock it because you can't delete a topic unless 24 hrs. or be reported to moderator.

As a moderator you have to inform "don't withdraw without deposit"
When I asked you check telegram chat.

Then you know you have to make a deposit on that yet you still haven't followed it or you just plainly doesn't know that you have to make a deposit before claiming/withdrawing it?

[Thamizhan]

Thanks for inform to me, I locked that thread. It's enough or have to delete?

That's enough to lock it because you can't delete a topic unless 24 hrs. or be reported to moderator.

As a moderator you have to inform "don't withdraw without deposit"
When I asked you check telegram chat.

Then you know you have to make a deposit on that yet you still haven't followed it or you just plainly doesn't know that you have to make a deposit before claiming/withdrawing it?

Yes I don't know deposit required before withdrawal, they updated the terms on recently (sep-2020), I'm not active online while lockdown in India.