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All of your markets are very +EV for the player: (at least for NBA)
https://i.imgur.com/aizg2X7.png

I don't see how any legitimate sportsbook could launch with such a large oversight (and negative profit potential). I think the site being a scam would be pretty likely with their goal being to get you to make a bet and not paying out if you win.

They do not even have a gambling license. No license and a new bookmaker should raise some flags.
For me this look does not very professional, using a proton mail address:

I also have some questions about this. How can you offer a market with values ​​that are above 2.00 for both outcomes? That is impossible. There is no bookmaker worldwide that puts both odds above 2.00. Then the customer would always win without running any kind of risk. What is going on here? Never seen this before. Something is wrong. It smells like a cheap scam attempt, like Darkstar already indicates.

Maybe the op can explain how it is possible that you can offer on basketball odds for over/under 216,5 for 2.13 and 2.07
That is really impossible!

What does that have to do with an attack? If criminals want to attack you, they will launch a DDOS attack. I don't see how using a protonmail address prevents that.
But more importantly, a proton mail address does not convey any professionalism. And that is very important for customers.
By the way, why don't you have a gambling license? Where is your company located that operates this website?

A cache problem? I don't think it is a cache problem. It looks more like bad coding or trying to attract customers by giving to high odds.
Protonmail can be reliable and a good secure choice for yourself as a company, but trust me, customer really do not want to spent their money on a gambling site that uses a simple proton mail account.

Cache problem? that's a bullshit excuse...If you are the owner of this one, you would ensure that you wont really be giving out these kind of problem or errors.

This is clear that this was intentional and trying out to deceive people, Darkstar had already mentioned above about +EV which is really an impossible thing to see in legit bookies that we do have
today. Lastly, the site design doesn't look professional or just simply look a school project.

They are probably new in this gambling world now. And also new on the forum. The least they should have done is start a proper announcement topic.
I don't like the layout of the site, but that doesn't always say everything on a site. You can have a bad looking layout, but it can work well in terms of functionality.
Whether that is the case; we should wait and judge. Too bad there is no gambling license.

If the reason of using protomail is to reduce the rate of cyber attack or criminal's not to attack gambling sites, I really wants to know if we have analysis of gambling sites that has been attack by hacker's before and protonmail happened to protect it's interest, and what is going to be the benefit if attack a gambling site, or they have a specific site these Protonmail protect  or some specific sites, because I know vividly that criminals have different dimension or strategies to implies if really them want to decode the code or attack existing site, I really want to be convinced.

Hello @BTCGOLD

It seems that thinking about security (and maybe even from a wrong approach) was not a good idea and is giving users an amateurish sensation. So we will definitely switch to our e-mail in a few days. Thanks for bringing that up!

We are based in Costa Rica (pura vida!) and we don't have any license, but it will change in near future!

And also, acquire at least eCuracao gaming license. Maybe people here will not be so harsh.
You are still a newcomer here so expect they will throw valid questions to you.
As long as you have serious intentions here, and keeps on answering users here.
I guess, in time, they will slow down with comments. But you need to improve according to what is necessary to be a legit sportsbook.

Another day, another casino in the making. For sure, he will receive a lot of criticisms here. But if he can get out alive, it means he is sincere in launching this platform. Hope they will not screw players here once these gamblers start trusting placing their bets.

You are right DS, I can make easy money if the odds are like this, imagine, if I bet $1000 on Pistons and Suns, I will never loss my bet, it's either I will make 4% winning or 16% winning, the only risk is if BETRAFT site would not allow me to withdraw after I deposited my money.

I think they fixed it now, but first impression last.

https://i.imgur.com/tCnUG58.png

is there no signup and login button?,

the first time I see a website like this. I just put my BTC address and I try to draw a bet Verona vs Crotone in placing a single, but not reflected, my bet still reload.

If you want the thread more attractive with image, buy Copper membership (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote)

I do have the same problem where it do loads like forever.

https://i.imgur.com/33hIeO3.gif

So this one give me the impression to be like of Onehash.

What happened OP?

Please answer questions here, is this thread for pure announcement only? Is there a representative here that would make this thread active?

edit : my bad, here you go you answer queries, good to see that, it means this thread won't be abandon.

It reminds me to directbet, the first crypto sportsbook where players do not need an account to bet on their favorite sports events.
I checked for a while and the only accepted payment is bitcoin, isn't it?
If it is true, with the current price and transaction fee of bitcoin which can be considered as expensive, I do think that having bitcoin only as payment method can be a disadvantage because regular gambler who usually bet small amount under $50 wont be willing to pay few dollar for every bet they want to place.
One question related to the winning payment, will winning amount be subtracted few dollar for the transaction fee or will you pay for the fee to send the winning amount?

Setting up a platform without registration and login? And then you think you can get customers? sorry but you really have to work with a login. Customers need security and their own personal account.

Does anyone here already tried placing bet and withdrawing from the website? It looks like there were some complaints already about it. By the way I've seen this on your terms and condition:


Does this means you have license from Costa Rica?

looks like they really have costa rica license. honestly i don't trust that kind of license, they are new and it's normal to have doubts about them i think the op should ask all of the question and i think i should wait for some time before playing on this website, let's see what will happened after some time.

https://betraft.com/p/how-it-works
 (https://betraft.com/p/how-it-works)

they dont need a login or a signup page anymore but you can pick and place a bet imediately by using only your btc address  .

 i guess this is more secure than having an account because no hacks will happen because you dont have an account and i never see anyone being hack by only using their btc public address but i already seen a gambling site with the same concept like this one  . they arent that much but i also dont think this concept is new ? because that was long time ago after i see one like this

Gambling in Costa Rica is not regulated. That means that there is no control and supervision whatsoever. If you still want to gain trust and credibility, I recommend that you publish the company details of your company.
Which also means they do not have a gambling license.

you can check their trust page you will see how many complaints they have. i think you should first improve your website and follow some users suggestion looks like some users have trouble with loading on your website in my case i am curious how much would be the maximum bet on your website.

welcome to the forum it's so nice to see another sports betting website on the forum. I think you should upgrade your account to copper member in order for you to post images and make this ann thread more attractive to players.

I hope you can find a good signature campaign manager to handle this campaign so you'll see a positive result, our manager is doing a great job of running our campaign effectively and I can say it's already a long term campaign now. if you have already contacted him, you should not hesitate, he is the best in the business IMO.

Despite the sloppy start and lots of negative comments, I like the approach, the responsiveness of @betraft and also the design of the page - I like clean and lean more than lots of bling-bling in a betting site. I want to bet there and see the odds and matches; if I want a nice looking page, I can go to some fashion site.
Navigating is a bit weary though, since there are no under-menus for example for soccer and a lot of scrolling or ctrl+f is needed to get to the game you are looking for. This is maybe something you want to improve in the future.

I don't know, if this is legit, but I would recommend to try with small amounts first. But not too small, because the withdrawal tx fee might eat up all your winnings and even parts of your deposit, if you play low odds with small stakes.
And make sure, if the odds you are getting, are better than elsewhere taking the tx fees into consideration, because you pay them twice yourself for each bet you make. So @2.00 is actually net lower and the vig is already at ~7% by default.

I placed a little bet and will report back, if it wins ;D

I also think it is good that the person does not feel attacked and answers every question. Experiences of players will show whether this is a reliable site or not. There's nothing wrong with small bets. How fast are the payouts? I only miss the live games, which are very popular for the audience.

May I know if your instant deposit and withdrawal feature will also include btc? I am not so sure if what you are referring to instant withdrawal either it will instantly deposit upon receiving a certain confirmation or you mean automatic deposit and withdrawal instead of instant? Your 25% is like a rakeback? This is pretty good promotion if in case this is like a rakeback where we can get back 25% from our losses.

With these types of bookmakers who are new without a license, you better send a message when you have received a payment  :)


Does that mean the win is automatically send to the bitcoin address from the players?

The idea of no registration is nice.

What i didn't like is the poor availability of soccer games.

A bettor need more leagues except the mainstream ones

No KYC might be attractive to some people, but it's not enough to make a name in the current market, as great sportsbooks like Sportsbet.io already exist and are well-known.
It's good that you've solved the issue DarkStar pointed out, and that you're planning to get a license. At least it shows that you're trying to improve.
I'm geoblocked from accessing the website, though, 'cause apparently you don't allow people from certain countries even though you don't have a license yet...?

Welcome to bitcoitnalk forum.
There is no kyc and no registration on Betraft and that is good, but new betting websites always have to work harder to prove it is legitimate and that people can trust it with their coins, and I don't see enough information for betraft.
You have twitter social media with only one member and follower, and betraft website does not have any license except some claims about Costa Rica San José without any proof.

May I ask why you restricted access from certain countries although there is no kyc requirement? What will you do if you find out that someone from a blocked country accessed your website using a vpn, will you accept his bet?
Also, I noticed that you can put anything in the "receiving address" field which means that you don't check if the provided address is valid or not! You should fix this to protect your customers from losing their money by mistakenly typing a wrong address.

That's a good suggestion there. About the receiving address field. Because there are really people who can make mistakes and those that are not double checking their transactions. Better if they can provide also a counter check from their end.

And with regards to having restricted access, I believe use of VPN is still ok for now as they also give a go on this one. But what if in the future you will acquire your gambling license, are you still ok with the use of VPN?

My bet won and I can confirm that I received my winnings shortly after the game had finished. Due to low-ish stakes and odds I actually "lost" a good part of the money via tx fees again as described above, so think twice and do your calculations beforehand.

(This does not mean that Betraft is legit - only time will tell - judge/try yourself and make your own experiences)

nice. hope you add more in the future.

P.S Since you accept Serie D bets, i see no logic not accept at least all 1st division games worldwide. I mean, Algeria, Tunisia, UAE, Greece, Bosnia etc

That was quick.. or were you already working on it!

I just reloaded the page and found out that access from my country is not allowed anymore:
Does this has anything to do with me attempting to fill an invalid address? If so, then this is not the way to go. You don't simply block a whole country just because someone tried to abuse your system.

Just want to say if the betraft admin will continue to be active in addressing each and every concern by the players here, I believe in time, they will get loyal supporters. Sometimes it is how you treat your players, small or big, and resolving or answering satisfactorily those issues. Good luck to betraft and hopefully grow your community.

Community support is one of the factor what people will like to them but to be honest this is a little things only since many people still looking for best promotion since remember there are other casino and sportsbook who offer a good promotion/contest to the gamblers here, so betraft should compete these tight competition in this industry.

When you are just starting with this business into this industry then it is just  right that you should really be attentive on what the publics concern and complaints nor those suggestions.
You cant really expect that your site would already be perfect once it had been launched, you would normally get some criticism and there might be issues that had been seen which would really
be a good thing for you to make out some fix or adjustment according on what they do like, once you do able to get their attention then this is where the public or the community might
consider to hang out into this place. This is just new and there are lots of things to improve on and lets see if they could able to sustain that.

As far as I can see here, it's constructive criticism that are being posted by some users and OP is willing to accept that, it's good to see this because it simply means that people cared for a new site, they don't support scams but they support a legit business and help them improve by giving their honest opinion and suggestions.

If I'm not wrong, this is same as the directbet. In the past days directbet is the only site that made a big path for the development of gambling network with cryptocurrency acceptance. Suddenly they closed it, and the service during those days were really awesome. For regulatory issues it was closed. If Betraft does the same work as directbet surely it'll be a big success, because people are much into anonymous way of gambling.

what basic generated address?, from IP or Bitcoin address?, cause when am I trying bet another game will generate me different address deposit?.

Is there any feature for change nested (with 3) to native address (bc1) generate address?

this is weird when you blocked some countries even your website didn't need to register and KYC.

Yes this site is probably inspired by directbet, one of the most popular sportsbook in the past because of its features. After the shut down of directbet, there were some sites tried to offer similar feature to direcbet but seems that most of the failed to gain interests from gamblers. This site looks promising but of course this site needs to prove themselves that they are reliable enough. Lets see what they can do to  attract players.

if they give a similar level of customer support and satisfaction as the old DirectBet (I still miss you), then I don't see any reason to fail. i also liked the layout it's clear, at least much much better than old DirectBet.

I think no site could near Directbet, they'll remain in the history as one of the best betting crypto betting sites. Directbet in the past seems like a decentralized gambling sites, you send coins as your bet and bet on, the current sites format now has followed the standard of fiat sportsbook, the only difference is the payment method.

What I don't understand, when you create a new platform, don't you make sure you have at least a registration and login page? If you visit the page now, it looks like a project from the late 90's.

The layout is way too simple. This way you can never get customers. If there were still an official gambling license on it, it would be a different story.

So far I have been able to discover few positive points. There is also no live betting.

Hope you add more and more soccer leagues.

Site looks promising.

Also, when someone click on ''football'' for example, he is expecting to see the countries/leagues. Think you should fix that as well.

layout looks much better now

Also good that you hear suggestions and you solve them fast!

P.S consider add live betting as well! To my knowledge, inplay turnover is bigger that pregame ones!

what im worried about having no login or registration page is that, you can't go back to your bets if you unconsciously closed your browser? how are you going to check your bets on that matter? seems it is not practical to having no reg on your site. even username and pw would do. i dont know if this set-up will work on gamblers here. and once you bet, you can't cancel the bet if you changed your mind. i dont know, but am not comfortable with this set-up.

Protonmail is good but why not use your own domain for email redirection why not create something like email@betraft.com you will have total control of where emails will land and will also make your site looks professional, I recommend that you get a copper member account like all developers and administrator of gambling sites, so you can screenshot and post images and effectively promote your announcement thread.

They are new to the market, but if they show progress it is important. There are a number of points that could be improved. People have their own opinion regarding the layout.
It looks old-fashioned, there is room for improvement. That is also a matter of taste. Some players don't value that. What is important are the functionalities of the website. You really have to work with a login part.
Suppose a user has placed a bet, it is desirable that he can see in his account which bet that is. The EV + in the beginning was also a big deal. It seemed to be resolved, but the problem is more that this kind of problem shouldn't happen. It is not a small mistake. Customers are critical and count you on that. I would certainly implement the suggestion of the email address. A proton mail address may be easy to access and less subject to rules, but an email address with its own domain exudes much more professionalism. Hiring a designer who takes care of the layout, and then you are already a long way in combination with the login.
People can better judge if users will share their experience from your site on the forum.

i was curious does anyone already played on the website? any way are you planning to run some promotions on your website or probably here in the forum to attract more players on your website? that promotion on your website from parlay was a really great start.

Add volleyball and handball

Hi @AmoreJaz

We don't need a login and registration page. You can always access your bets by its bet slip id. For example, this is a bet slip made on our website:

https://betraft.com/betslip-detail?id=36SLjNQXxB17kGQNxfNk8iE38D2Wp312w8

Hope it's clear now.

Your site reminds me of Bet365 thanks to the simple green layout which looks decent. The performance seems fine both on mobile and desktop. However, BTC being the only deposit and withdrawal method especially now when the fees are high is a con.

I advise you to add more payment methods like ETH, LTC etc in order to attract more gamblers in the long term.

Live Betting is much preferred by most of the gamblers. For that purpose it is good to have live Betting. With directbet live Betting is available with almost every game. It has got dice, but we don't know what is happening behind.

Despite the recent launch, this Sportsbook (BetRaft) seems very promising at least at the moment, so we added information about it to the base of our website: http://100bookies.com/betraft-review/

Too much lucrative odds on every game, I can't believe my eyes that a sports book can able to offer such kind of lucrative odds on both side. But, Noticed the site is licensed registered on 2019 but can't see Curacao Gaming License or any kind of gambling license, I don't think anyone would be interested in taking a risk by depositing their funds in a company without a license. where is the signup option! cant understand how would you recognize me if I want to use different browser or device!

You can't blame people/gamblers asking for these things, we need also security as we many scam sites around. We wanted no newcomers to become a victim to this trick and that having your site on board, not new to the market (I think) but seeing no license that gonna be an issue (seriously).
That everything you need is to be consistent with your good doings, it is really hard to gains trust, honestly since you are new. But if they see that you are consistent, that be fine.

New theme is looking much better and I like that you have MMA betting but I think adding live betting would be great to have.

I am also not sure how would betting work in Bitcoin mempool is full like it was in past few days and if we have to wait longer for confirmation and pay higher fees.
How many confirmations are needed for bet to be accepted?

I don't see tennis sport on your website, indeed for January there are only a few tournaments and even then only tournaments with a small prize pool, that many top tennis players don't participate in, but in February there will be GS which will certainly be interesting for bettors to place bets on tennis sport, because many top players will participate.

Fees for high priority around $4-5, so bettor should careful to choose a bet if not, will get nothing even though win the bet, because the profit below fees transaction

Haven't you tried lowering the rates? Some sites have lower fees, particularly if I place a bet with a low USD I would like to be able to make a profit without leaving so much at house.

you work with 0 confirmations is nice for the customer. however, you should keep in mind that this can be abused by players who know how to apply a double spend. you have to be prepared for that, because that will certainly happen at some point. live games is certainly something that needs to be added later.

this is important next to having a license . if people see that they are being consistent in promotions , on this thread handling concerns , doing updates from time to time , blah blah blah people will feel confident and think that they wouldnt get scammed because of how active the site owners or staffs are  and they started at 2019 ?

so that is been over a year , they arent really new on the gambling scene but they are new compare to the older gambling competitors which started on the year 2015 and below  .

In any case, they are active on the forum and their site is open to improvements. At the moment it is a pity that there are no live bets available yet. what is not can still come of course. Probably a matter of time.
Everybody has to start at some point. Gaining trust would be the most difficult thing when you are new.

You nailed it, gaining trust really the tough days for new gambling site, they needed to put an effort bringing interest to every potential
gamblers that they might attract visiting their platform.

There are too many competitors but if the team are really eager to win the trust inside, they need being more active answering each queries and every question that related t their business.

Improving their services from time to time is not a big deal, the more enhancement and added
services the more people to look forward and visits the site.

for volleyball can you add all the tournaments as with other bookmakers. and to have more markets so far there is only a sign 1-2

Live bets will be very hard to be implemented because it is an on chain sports betting.
Live betting where the odds is changing frequently even in just a matter of seconds wont be able to give you a fixed odds.
Lets say you want to place a live bet with odds 1.8 at the time you check the site, but when you want to send your bets the odds may have changed significantly down or up.
IMO live betting is not suitable for this kind of site where you need to make a transaction for every bet you are going to place.

Might be stupid question but:

If someone deposit more than the game limits, what happens in that case?

Thanks. Ideally max limits should be visible to avoid unnecessary transactions

Upon looking at your platform, here's a list of what I would love to suggest:

• Have a much intuitive UI/UX. Having so simple front-end doesn't really make it worth visited, noting also that you are new onto the business.
• Have a Curacao license, it is a much trusted license in online gambling platforms. With that, we don't need to know your company per se, the license itself would be enough identity that you can somehow be trusted.
• Stop evading questions about your integrity and legitimacy. An anonymous betting platform like this really is hard to be trusted. Better build user trust through this forum, have proofs with the successful payouts and wages.

Your platform really have a good idea, yet question lies on your integrity and you must build it first before engaging on upgrades that would be unnecessary when the time comes that no one trusts your platform.

curacao gaming license is not hard to acquire. so i guess, they need to start considering getting one. at least build some confidence from new players. as they dont have the regular registration here, you dont know at some point, this site will just disappear. who knows? they are active right now, because they need to. but couple of months from now, will the engagement with the users will still be the same? that is yet to be seen...

The best way for bettors to try the platform without hesitation is to run a promotion or competition with a decent reward, that's usually what a new site would do here if they want to succeed, other sites announced their platform here a long time ago but not active in the promotion, they are not recognize and they didn't build thei reputation... just adding my opinion too.

https://i.imgur.com/qWtFLja.jpg
https://betraft.com/

OP I have to ask why didn't you properly notified people that website will be under maintenance until January 16th?
Nothing is mention about it on bitcointalk forum or on your twitter account and it doesn't look good.

Archived:
https://archive.is/8pt2E
https://web.archive.org/web/20210115183806/https://twitter.com/BETRAFTcom

Probably this was something unexpected, or they simply don't have that customer care! For a maintenance is a bit long :o, just over 24h if that...

In any case, being a new casino is tough because of the competition, and this does not look like a lucky start. FOR ME, seeing it how it operates I wouldn't deposit my BTC on here. Nowadays, BTC is worth more than ever, so why would you trust someone that has barley started out when you could probably earn more in betting at the regular casinos???

Welcome to the forum. The idea of ​​anonymity is good, although I think it is better if you build in a mechanism that includes registration. You can also maintain a kind of anonymous registration, so without personal data and only email address.

Maintaining a separate data for email is also a form of fulfilling KYC. Already there were success story of anonymous gambling service. During the early days directbet was the only site that gained more importance and much used by the forum members than any other gambling sites. After the closing we get to see more new sites reach the network and has gained good trust among the users even with complete KYC.

Maybe you want to purchase copper membership - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=credit;promote, so you can post images without a prob. You are running a casino, so I believe you have funds for this one. Right now, with several active casinos in the forum, you will find it hard to compete with established ones.

I just visited your site and it looks similar to directbet (now its not working anymore) where we can place the bets without having to make an account on the site. I am very happy to see this new sport betting site built on the similar idea. I will try it and let you know my experience with it.

The layout could be a bit better. I think it is especially important that you eventually make live betting available to customers. that seems to me to be the market that most people are dealing with nowadays.

I haven't seen or heard from this site the last few days. Has anyone actually already had experience with deposits and withdrawals here? The outlook did not seem very good.
You have to start somewhere, I'm curious if they have worked on their site and if improvements have been made.

There seems to be a couple of improvements, few weeks ago you can quickly place bets by adding them in the betslip then they'll provide you a deposit address but now you need to create an account which I don't mind since transaction fees add up per bet. And they've added LTC as well last time i've used them they only accepted BTC.

Hello ralle, yes you are correct! We changed bet placing mechanism to account mechanism. It's still anonymous though.

Just Wondering Why come that you Deleted this post ? after using a stupid excuse and instead of Pointing it in right direction you have come to this Idea ?

Good to hear that this is your movement now but yet i find it shady and won't Place any funds until proven legitimate.

This reminds me of eurobet (if anyone recalls), you were given a deposit address for every bet made, but yeah fees currently make it not worthwhile at all. Betting with LTC or some other cheaper alt network does make it interesting. I'm actually still waiting for a sort of Lightning mode betting (with bets settled automatically too).

The problem that still arise is that they do not have a valid license. On the other hand, reputation is all that matters for a site. You could have a good reputation without a license, but that is something that you have to work on.

This forum will be used for announcements only. We have occasional bettors enjoying our odds.

@sempak

We will most likely never acquire a license as it's almost useless.

I made a test deposit of 5 $ yesterday
The money has not been credited to my balance, the support is not responding.

Is that true? I was planning on transferring some money and try to play on the website. looks like even the $5 credit was not been credited to the account. Does anyone already tried to withdraw deposit and withdraw here successfully?

https://blockchair.com/ru/litecoin/address/M97pt3GF3tRQstNpBpPVtJneLJiY69fdJt
https://ibb.co/BrvwwRV

So these are indeed a prove out that you do really make out some deposit. @betraft, you should at least say up some words
about this issue about deposited funds hadnt been credited in on-sites balance.


No, it isnt useless and this would rather add up your credibility.

Obviously they will not scam you for 5 USD. The most important is that support is not responding imo.

that's true it's just a $5 but still even if they can't credit a small amount like that how come the other gamblers that transfers $500 or more? probably this will make a bad impressions to them.

Hello

Please check your e-mail, we contacted you back now and your issue should be resolved. Thanks for being patient!

I received money, now the rate is not calculated, for 2 hours

very unfinished site, something needs to be done about it. you need to quickly calculate rates, I can't even check how the withdrawal works

The very risk of depositing to a new site, I can't say that it's good since you are just using small amount of funds to test the service but still that money value the services that this site might be offered, if they can't do it the right way with such small amount then potentail gamblers will hesitate to visit and deposit more bigger amount than this.

It shouldn't be that long to credit your funds, and now, the next issue would be the withdrawal
if how long it would take for you to recieved your money. Looking forward to see if you'll manage
to bring it out. Best of luck!

One of the things that a betting and gaming site must take care of the most is to protect and the free and simple withdrawal of funds, some sites are quite criticized because they require a large withdrawal amount, now OP must guarantee the withdrawal of funds from it, this would generate much more confidence for the gamers.

https://ibb.co/3SVp6sw
my bet has not yet been settled.
it's a shame

Hello TIMOM,

I have the information that your bet has waited for a while because our settlement person mistook your event for a similar tennis event that played 1 day ago. We also credited an extra balance for your patience.

Thanks!

This doesn't look very professional betting service with people not receiving deposits and bets not being settled.
I understand you are new in this space but making such settlement mistakes should not been happening.

So, you manually settle bets? Wow, that will be a lot of work if site gets serious attention from gamblers

Already gone?