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Title: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Rruchi man on January 29, 2021, 09:08:45 AM
  Isreal leads the race in the vaccination against the deadly Corona virus. The Israeli government struck a deal with Pfizer Biontech a German biotechnology company  to get quick and fast assess to the vaccine from them in exchange for a partial access to the health data of its citizens. With this deal in place, since the 19th of December, up to a quarter of Israel's entire population have received at least one dose of this vaccine.
   In a very recent published in their local news blog (see link at the end of post), the Pfizer-BioNTech shots are  living up to expectations as statistics taken from the people vaccinated has been found the vaccine to be 92% effective against the virus, an impressive statistics for the vaccine outside clinical trials and test. Israel is set to increase vaccination and have more than half of its population vaccinated by the middle of the year.
  Although this is raising up the issue of a breach in privacy, are we about to witness the end of the corona virus? Is this statistics good enough for other countries to begin vaccination and use of the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/vaccine-found-92-effective-in-israel-in-first-controlled-result-outside-trials/amp/




Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: tvbcof on January 29, 2021, 10:57:42 AM

I'd be pretty uncomfortable sharing my biological data with the 'authorities and their sub-contractors' and getting injections in Israel unless I was pretty darn sure that I was of a 'Khazarian Pure Supermen' blood-line.  Even the blue eyes and blond hair (and aerospace engineering degree) which got a person into Israel from the collapsing Soviet Union might not be enough to qualify as 'chosen' at the genetic material level.  Just sayn'.



Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Jet Cash on January 29, 2021, 11:17:50 AM
They haven't tested it against natural immunity. That is 100%  effective with no side effects.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on January 29, 2021, 05:37:10 PM
They haven't tested it against natural immunity. That is 100%  effective with no side effects.

One of the most effective ways for a vaccine to cure us from Covid, is to use it to kill off all the people. No people, nobody will have to worry about Covid any longer, right? We can see from what is happening to people who take/get the vaccine, that this is what is starting to happen.

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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: ranochigo on January 30, 2021, 02:55:57 PM
Pfizer vaccines are fairly hard to store with the extremely demanding storage conditions. It would be impossible for everyone on earth to have access to a vaccine anytime soon. I would be more concerned about those poorer countries which would likely be a hotbed for the virus. Pfizer vaccines requires 2 doses for it to be effective and there should be still a limited supply, I don't think SinoVac and others has reached the required threshold yet. Herd immunity would be hard enough to achieve, especially given all the fake news surrounding it (No. I'm not interested to discuss this with all the conspiracy theories, go find a doctor.)

I don't think COVID would be eradicated anytime soon, it would probably stick around like the Flu virus which makes it a seasonal virus. I do hope that the cases could go down and everyone could go back to their normal activities.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Gyfts on January 31, 2021, 02:12:10 AM
Johnson and Johnson released their COVID vaccine, and there was another company, Moderna maybe?

Apparently they only require one dose, so with the same production you could get the population vaccinated twice as fast.

Problem is only compliance. Black/hispanic community are not choosing to get vaccinated, some health care workers even. We have a demand problem, not supply.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Mpamaegbu on February 01, 2021, 01:47:12 PM
They haven't tested it against natural immunity. That is 100%  effective with no side effects.
The sad thing about natural immunity is that those who have it may not even be sure they have it. People want what they can see. The vaccine is what they see. Even vaccine isn't 100% efficacious.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on February 09, 2021, 03:10:10 PM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?

No! Rather, it's the beginning of something much, much worse.


Shawn's Tragic Story After Taking The Moderna MRNA DNA Changing Covid-19 Va666ine (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/298148-2021-01-18-shawns-tragic-story-after-taking-the-moderna-mrna-dna-changing.htm)



This video needs to be spread like wildfire and loaded to bitchute and brighteon before it is taken down. Anyone promoting vaccination is irresponsible.  The Covid-19 "Vaccine / Synthetic Pathogen" changes your DNA and makes you transhuman and Is one of the Marks of the Beast.  The Beast has many Marks.  Do not take the Covid-19 test, Covid-19 vaccines or any vaccine or the neuralink or the quantum dot tattoo or the electronic tatto as these are all Marks of the Beast as they will change your DNA.  God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob's Holy Spirit does not dwell in a machine as these vaccines being offered by Killer Gates make you transhuman.

I am so sorry that this happened to you Shawn, it is truly horrifying! The healthy Dr. Gregory Michael (Mt. Sinai Medical Center, FL) was hospitalized 3 days after his Pfizer vax and eventually died in the hospital. And healthy 41 yr old healthcare worker Sonia Acevedo (Portuguese Institute of Oncology) died 2 days after her Pfizer vax. Numerous adverse reactions/'health impact events' reported on vaers. Please report your reaction at vaers.hhs . gov. And visit injuredbycovidvaccine . com for support. Get an Attorney ASAP. Praying for you!

Convulsions and Encephalomyelitis are trending with these "vaccinations."

Source: https://www.facebook.com/shawn.skelto… (https://beforeitsnews.com/v3/r2/?url=https://www.youtube.com/redirect?redir_token=QUFFLUhqa0xxZHlXSDB6UTd1ZGMybDlJcXhqZ2Z0c3JSQXxBQ3Jtc0traThHSU9VVDk4NmE4UTlObDRJWlc4ZmcyTjZqSnpMN0l1WmtQMUtNWU5FcDJ3M1FyX3BWZk40cEpVZG52VmhnYi1kbENNaTJWSjV6RFpCU1FqNml4MS1qUmRoMng5WEhUdjFIV3FCaVFvRVJ6U1B1NA%3D%3D&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fshawn.skelton.73&event=video_description&v=GotVR8ro9OA)


Vaccination
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GotVR8ro9OA/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLCxvuNaiXXgVXnoviWPyC7hvyZazw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GotVR8ro9OA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GotVR8ro9OA)


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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: cabron on February 09, 2021, 03:49:53 PM

Vaccination
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GotVR8ro9OA/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLCxvuNaiXXgVXnoviWPyC7hvyZazw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GotVR8ro9OA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GotVR8ro9OA)

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Looks like a prank?

Why are we not looking into how the Chinese are able to make it with sinovac because every media in this world claimed that the virus started in Wuhan China. They have developed their own which right now they have fully recovered. Pfizer's vaccine also has tons of issues with it including the ones where senior citizens died in UK.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on February 09, 2021, 03:53:59 PM

I don't really know, of course. In the beginning of the video she says that she is having tongue spasms. But you can't hear them in her speech. So, if it is real, she is getting better. But she better think twice before getting a second shot.

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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 09, 2021, 05:57:17 PM
IMO, people started to afraid of covid vaccines more than the covid virus due to its side effects and often the side effects are too severe for someone who doesn't even infected with the virus yet. And some articles posted that few people also died after taking the dosages. :(


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: LTU_btc on February 09, 2021, 08:19:38 PM
Problem is only compliance. Black/hispanic community are not choosing to get vaccinated, some health care workers even. We have a demand problem, not supply.
I think it's normal thing that not everyone want to get vaccinated. You can't expect that 100% people will want to get it. Some afraid side effects, others can't get it because of diseases, and many afraid it because of conspiracy theories. Personally, I still haven't decided whether I will get vaccine or no. Though, it's not going to be soon, I'm young and don't belong to any priority grouos.
But supply is big problem, most countries don't get enough vaccines. If whole proccess will continue in such speed, it will took a while to get population vaccinated. There is very few countries which reached at least 5% of population vaccinated. Maybe Israel is doing everything in impressive speed.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: KingScorpio on February 09, 2021, 09:03:56 PM
  Isreal leads the race in the vaccination against the deadly Corona virus. The Israeli government struck a deal with Pfizer Biontech a German biotechnology company  to get quick and fast assess to the vaccine from them in exchange for a partial access to the health data of its citizens. With this deal in place, since the 19th of December, up to a quarter of Israel's entire population have received at least one dose of this vaccine.
   In a very recent published in their local news blog (see link at the end of post), the Pfizer-BioNTech shots are  living up to expectations as statistics taken from the people vaccinated has been found the vaccine to be 92% effective against the virus, an impressive statistics for the vaccine outside clinical trials and test. Israel is set to increase vaccination and have more than half of its population vaccinated by the middle of the year.
  Although this is raising up the issue of a breach in privacy, are we about to witness the end of the corona virus? Is this statistics good enough for other countries to begin vaccination and use of the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/vaccine-found-92-effective-in-israel-in-first-controlled-result-outside-trials/amp/




chorona will continue haunt the world until its mission (the woke left) is exterminated


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: tvbcof on February 09, 2021, 09:53:06 PM
IMO, people started to afraid of covid vaccines more than the covid virus due to its side effects and often the side effects are too severe for someone who doesn't even infected with the virus yet. And some articles posted that few people also died after taking the dosages. :(

For me it is a case of the following:

 - Understanding the goals of people who end up in positions of power.  (Mostly these are names nobody will ever hear.)

 - hypothesizing that biological means of achieving some of these goals would be the most effective.

 - having hypothesized that an 'epidemic' would be the most workable means of achieving the fine-grained control which might be desired.  (I'll admit that the idea of a 'mock-epidemic' or 'scamdemic' did not occur to me.)

 - Having put years of research into vaccination issues which necessitated becoming familiar with the biological science in use for 'normal' vaccines which are bad enough.

 - Having observed and (correctly) identified enough of the predictive programming that by Q1 2020 I was confidently predicting that the fallout of so-called 'covid-19' would be mass testing of genetic methods which, in normal circumstances, would have taken a decade or two longer to test and deploy.

For me this whole thing has been a very unpleasant set of stepping stones along a path which I could see fairly clearly from early on in this scamdemic and before.  By the end there will be implanted devices which can be programmed over the 5G network to produce any genetic material in any person, and on an individual basis.  Complete control of who gets what 'programming' will be in the hands of what is euphemistically called a 'public/private partnership'.  I often call this 'corp/gov'.



Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Jaycee99 on February 09, 2021, 10:07:24 PM
 Isreal leads the race in the vaccination against the deadly Corona virus. The Israeli government struck a deal with Pfizer Biontech a German biotechnology company  to get quick and fast assess to the vaccine from them in exchange for a partial access to the health data of its citizens. With this deal in place, since the 19th of December, up to a quarter of Israel's entire population have received at least one dose of this vaccine.
   In a very recent published in their local news blog (see link at the end of post), the Pfizer-BioNTech shots are  living up to expectations as statistics taken from the people vaccinated has been found the vaccine to be 92% effective against the virus, an impressive statistics for the vaccine outside clinical trials and test. Israel is set to increase vaccination and have more than half of its population vaccinated by the middle of the year.
  Although this is raising up the issue of a breach in privacy, are we about to witness the end of the corona virus? Is this statistics good enough for other countries to begin vaccination and use of the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/vaccine-found-92-effective-in-israel-in-first-controlled-result-outside-trials/amp/




The vaccine is said to be effective..... and all but the one thing is people in the country got the vaccines. Still, the country allows people to fly in and out of the country and that will make a big fail WHY? it was said from the test results "you still might not have covid but for sure you should at least make a 14-day quarantine" at least from one of the videos I saw that I should have saved for you guys to believe me.


No matter the vaccine work I did not get the chance to saw the ones who volunteer becomes fine they did not show every country that the vaccine works for people I knew people were there to volunteer not from the news but from a one min vlog. I can't say the vaccine is good if the Government or the source gave reliable information that it was 100% fine.

I know if they did get to send it why wouldn't it be safe or fine? who knows it is just maybe a trick because from now of the previous news that I got to watch that a vaccine by the Department of Health for kids didn't work they made those kids are likely to become test rats why? because some of them become sick some of them died.

https://www.sciencemag.org/sites/default/files/styles/article_main_image_-_1280w__no_aspect_/public/ca_0426NID_Dengue_Trial_online.jpg?itok=O50G8Re8

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2019/04/dengue-vaccine-fiasco-leads-criminal-charges-researcher-philippines

those kids died for being test rats a vaccine that is free.


Still who knows Vaccine for COvod today could work but still a chance of zero that it does not work out,


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 10, 2021, 05:18:22 AM

 - Having observed and (correctly) identified enough of the predictive programming that by Q1 2020 I was confidently predicting that the fallout of so-called 'covid-19' would be mass testing of genetic methods which, in normal circumstances, would have taken a decade or two longer to test and deploy.

For me this whole thing has been a very unpleasant set of stepping stones along a path which I could see fairly clearly from early on in this scamdemic and before.  By the end there will be implanted devices which can be programmed over the 5G network to produce any genetic material in any person, and on an individual basis.  Complete control of who gets what 'programming' will be in the hands of what is euphemistically called a 'public/private partnership'.  I often call this 'corp/gov'.


Government are in need of solution while those big medical companies took advantage of it, now they know the whole world is at emergency state and that is how media exaggrgated the whole situation. In my place people are not following any of the social distancing and preventive measures while the cases are very few and even people who died also have other chronic disease.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 10, 2021, 05:37:36 AM
IMO, people started to afraid of covid vaccines more than the covid virus due to its side effects and often the side effects are too severe for someone who doesn't even infected with the virus yet. And some articles posted that few people also died after taking the dosages. :(

More than 6.5 million vaccine doses administered in India till now (the vaccination program started almost one month back). Not a single case of death being reported as a result of vaccination, from this group. However, they are using the Oxford/AstraZeneca and Bharat Biotech vaccines, and not the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine. Although the efficacy is lower, the Indian government has gone for the version from AstraZeneca, because it is easier to store and is more affordable.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: jrrsparkles on February 10, 2021, 07:19:44 AM
IMO, people started to afraid of covid vaccines more than the covid virus due to its side effects and often the side effects are too severe for someone who doesn't even infected with the virus yet. And some articles posted that few people also died after taking the dosages. :(

More than 6.5 million vaccine doses administered in India till now (the vaccination program started almost one month back). Not a single case of death being reported as a result of vaccination, from this group. However, they are using the Oxford/AstraZeneca and Bharat Biotech vaccines, and not the Pfizer/BioNtech vaccine. Although the efficacy is lower, the Indian government has gone for the version from AstraZeneca, because it is easier to store and is more affordable.

Covid-19 vaccine in India: Deaths not related to vaccination, clarifies govt (https://www.livemint.com/news/india/covid19-vaccine-in-india-deaths-not-related-to-vaccination-clarifies-govt-11610984378286.html)

When government says such statements then which itself create enough suspicious on them for sure. ::)


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Mauser on February 10, 2021, 10:24:03 AM
  Isreal leads the race in the vaccination against the deadly Corona virus. The Israeli government struck a deal with Pfizer Biontech a German biotechnology company  to get quick and fast assess to the vaccine from them in exchange for a partial access to the health data of its citizens. With this deal in place, since the 19th of December, up to a quarter of Israel's entire population have received at least one dose of this vaccine.
   In a very recent published in their local news blog (see link at the end of post), the Pfizer-BioNTech shots are  living up to expectations as statistics taken from the people vaccinated has been found the vaccine to be 92% effective against the virus, an impressive statistics for the vaccine outside clinical trials and test. Israel is set to increase vaccination and have more than half of its population vaccinated by the middle of the year.
  Although this is raising up the issue of a breach in privacy, are we about to witness the end of the corona virus? Is this statistics good enough for other countries to begin vaccination and use of the Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.timesofisrael.com/vaccine-found-92-effective-in-israel-in-first-controlled-result-outside-trials/amp/




At the current rate of vaccinations it is going to take at least a year to get everyone vaccinated. Sure there might be new companies coming out with new vaccines but we still don't know how effective these different drugs are long term. There are already 5 big companies in place mass producing vaccines, but it is not enough for everybody. There are quite a few poor countries in Africa or South America who haven't even vaccinated 0.5% of their population. Unfortunately we are still going to have to deal with corona in the next years.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on February 10, 2021, 04:07:06 PM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


No. It's the end of the world through population destruction.


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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Cnut237 on February 10, 2021, 04:10:19 PM
Pfizer vaccines are fairly hard to store with the extremely demanding storage conditions. It would be impossible for everyone on earth to have access to a vaccine anytime soon. I would be more concerned about those poorer countries which would likely be a hotbed for the virus. Pfizer vaccines requires 2 doses for it to be effective and there should be still a limited supply, I don't think SinoVac and others has reached the required threshold yet. Herd immunity would be hard enough to achieve, especially given all the fake news surrounding it (No. I'm not interested to discuss this with all the conspiracy theories, go find a doctor.)

I don't think COVID would be eradicated anytime soon, it would probably stick around like the Flu virus which makes it a seasonal virus. I do hope that the cases could go down and everyone could go back to their normal activities.

Yes. Vaccinating everyone in a country (or sufficiently close to everyone to confer herd immunity within the country) is obviously a good thing, but is certainly not the end of the virus. Producing enough vaccine doses is one challenge, as is (in some countries) getting the anti-vaxxers to accept it. Pfizer does indeed present storage and transportation challenges. AFAIK the AstraZeneca vaccine is the only one at the moment that can be used with 'normal' refrigeration.

But the bigger issue is that nations are interconnected and this is a global problem, hence the 'pan' in pandemic. Whilst the virus continues to circulate amongst some populations, it will continue to mutate, and to produce vaccine-resistant strains, which can then infect those who've already been vaccinated against the original strain. Key here is how quickly the pharmaceutical companies can re-engineer their vaccines to address mutated strains... and anecdotal evidence suggests they can do so relatively quickly, in weeks... so I think we have grounds for cautious optimism.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Tzupy on February 10, 2021, 04:43:30 PM
No, all the existing Covid-19 vaccines need to be adjusted for the new mutations, especially the South African ones.
Efficacy of the existing vaccines drops from 95% for the old variants, to 80% for the UK variant, and only 65% for the SA variant.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: squatz1 on February 10, 2021, 06:05:08 PM
Johnson and Johnson released their COVID vaccine, and there was another company, Moderna maybe?

Apparently they only require one dose, so with the same production you could get the population vaccinated twice as fast.

Problem is only compliance. Black/hispanic community are not choosing to get vaccinated, some health care workers even. We have a demand problem, not supply.

Just as a note here, the Johnson and Johnson vaccine isn’t as effective as the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines. J&J has efficacy of approximatetly 65%, while Moderna and Pfizer are above 90%

Makes it much easier logistically, and is probably best to give to people who are younger and wouldn’t be at much of risk when they get COVID anyway while reserving the high efficacy vaccines for at risk / older people who would be at a much higher risk of death if they were to get COVID.

Personally can’t wait to get my vaccine, but that’s just me.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on February 12, 2021, 12:21:34 AM
Here is a little of what ICAN is doing - https://www.icandecide.org/.

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ICAN FACT CHECKS NYS DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH

ICANLEGAL
UPDATE
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ICAN achieved another victory in its ongoing campaign to ensure the government does not spread false information about vaccines.  New York State’s Department of Health prepared a social media campaign pushing the COVID-19 vaccines.  One of the ads falsely stated that the vaccines “went through the same rigorous approval process that all vaccines go through” and that “the vaccine is safe and effective. It was approved by the FDA, the CDC, and by NY’s independent vaccine panel.”  ICAN, through its attorneys, wrote to Dr. Howard Zucker, Commissioner of New York State’s Department of Health, and to Governor Cuomo, demanding they remove the false graphics and messaging regarding COVID-19 vaccines.  They quickly complied and removed the relevant false messaging.

On January 26, 2021, ICAN’s attorneys sent a letter to NYS DOH and Governor Cuomo informing them that they were violating federal law.  As part of Governor Cuomo’s #VaccinateNY campaign, NYS’s COVID-19 website provides materials to encourage and “educate” people about the COVID-19 vaccines. The social media materials are meant to be shared by New Yorkers to help spread the word and included the following poster:

[The poster is shown at the ICAN website]

Above this social media graphic, Cuomo and the NYS DOH provide the following “Sample Message” for individuals to use on social media: “The vaccine is safe and effective.  It was approved by the FDA, the CDC, and NY’s independent vaccine panel. Let’s #VaccinateNY!”

[Again, visit the ICAN website]

This social media messaging – intended to be shared and spread widely – made the false claim that the FDA “approved” a COVID-19 vaccine.  This is categorically false.  There is no COVID-19 vaccine that has been “approved” by the FDA.  The only two COVID-19 vaccines currently in use are authorized by the FDA pursuant to an emergency use authorization (“EUA”).

 

In fact, the FDA authorization (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/57428907:WX8U1Nd0N:m:1:2339260181:AB55A831C724A7539BA98A829DD6B696:r) letters (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/57428908:WX8U1Nd0N:m:1:2339260181:AB55A831C724A7539BA98A829DD6B696:r) (<<< Two Links There) for both COVID-19 vaccines expressly provide that the vaccines are each “an investigational vaccine not licensed for any indication” and require that “[a]ll promotional material relating to the COVID-19 Vaccine clearly and conspicuously … state that this product has not been approved or licensed by the FDA.”

 

Moreover, one would imagine that the Commissioner of the NYS DOH and the Governor would know that the CDC does not “approve” vaccines and that it would be false for them to claim that the CDC approved any COVID-19 vaccine.  Even worse, the two COVID-19 vaccines are still undergoing clinical trials, hence they were also spreading misinformation when they claimed that these EUA authorized products “went through the same rigorous approval process that all vaccines go through.”

 

New York State and Governor Cuomo needed to be fact checked.  We are pleased to tell you that, after being notified that failure to remove the inaccurate graphic and its false messaging would result in a lawsuit, New York State took it down (http://paracom.paramountcommunication.com/ct/57428906:WX8U1Nd0N:m:1:2339260181:AB55A831C724A7539BA98A829DD6B696:r).  This is another victory that should serve to remind New York State, Governor Cuomo, and others that someone is watching.  ICAN’s message should be heard loud and clear: you may not spread “misinformation” about vaccines.

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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 12, 2021, 04:55:10 AM
No, all the existing Covid-19 vaccines need to be adjusted for the new mutations, especially the South African ones.
Efficacy of the existing vaccines drops from 95% for the old variants, to 80% for the UK variant, and only 65% for the SA variant.

This is extremely worrying. There was a study on the South African variant, and it was found that the vaccines which are in use currently have very low efficacy against it (even lower than what you have posted). Here is a link:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/feb/08/oxford-covid-vaccine-10-effective-south-african-variant-study

Oxford Covid vaccine has 10% efficacy against South African variant, study suggests

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The Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine offers as little as 10% protection against the Covid variant first seen in South Africa, researchers have suggested. Scientists who conducted a small-scale trial of the vaccine’s efficacy said it showed very little protection against mild to moderate infection, though they expressed hope that – in theory – it would still offer significant protection against more serious infection.

This study was conducted for the vaccine from AstraZeneca and I don't know whether the vaccines from Pfizer or Moderna are showing a better efficacy or not. But the information we have till now is very worrying. And the worst part is that we may witness more mutations like the South African strains in the near future.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Tash on February 13, 2021, 02:43:26 PM
No, all the existing Covid-19 vaccines need to be adjusted for the new mutations, especially the South African ones.
Efficacy of the existing vaccines drops from 95% for the old variants, to 80% for the UK variant, and only 65% for the SA variant.

The vaccine is the mutation.
Brazil, UK and South Africa where places AstraZeneca vaccine was trialed.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: tvbcof on February 13, 2021, 02:55:12 PM
No, all the existing Covid-19 vaccines need to be adjusted for the new mutations, especially the South African ones.
Efficacy of the existing vaccines drops from 95% for the old variants, to 80% for the UK variant, and only 65% for the SA variant.

The vaccine is the mutation.
Brazil, UK and South Africa where places AstraZeneca vaccine was trialed.


Putting a population (of viruses in this case) under stress is a VERY effective way to accelerate 'evolution.'  Coronavirus, like influenza, have a 'life way' which associated with rapid evolution already which is why every year brings another set of 'strains'.

It's basically Ecology 101 that a 'vaccine' for coronavirus will result in a multitude of different 'strains' happening at an accelerated rate, and they will be highly skewed toward evasion of the 'vaccine'.

But don't worry; we can all get monthly shots for a while.  That will spur development (or maybe just implementation) of a 'near real time' system where an embedded platform is re-programmed wirelessly to update the gene therapy implant.



Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Nikola95 on February 22, 2021, 10:23:49 PM
Vaccines that are mass used for now are Pfizer, and after it are Sputnik and Sinofarm. Country like UAE, who is ranking high in vaccination, is using Sputnik and Sinofarm. They are rich, they do beleive in these vaccines so do I.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: bryant.coleman on February 24, 2021, 11:24:07 AM
Vaccines that are mass used for now are Pfizer, and after it are Sputnik and Sinofarm. Country like UAE, who is ranking high in vaccination, is using Sputnik and Sinofarm. They are rich, they do beleive in these vaccines so do I.

UAE is currently using four different vaccines - Pfizer-BioNTech, Oxford-AstraZeneca, Sputnik V and Sinopharm. Now these four have varying efficacy rates, ranging from 95% for the Pfizer vaccine to 62% for AstraZeneca. They received the vaccines in time not because they are rich. They received them on time, because they were one of the first countries to sign contracts with the vaccine manufacturers.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on February 24, 2021, 12:06:08 PM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


Of course not. The medical and government leaders will keep on saying there is a deadly virus, as long as they can make more money off the people. Try vitamin D, or vitamin C + zinc.


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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Pancho95 on February 24, 2021, 07:50:19 PM
Unfortunately, no. As we all can see there is new version of covid spreading more and faster than the old one. Sometimes I feel like vaccine producers are just rubbing their hands and giving us more and more vaccines for diseases that are not natural.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Mauser on February 24, 2021, 09:21:06 PM
Unfortunately, no. As we all can see there is new version of covid spreading more and faster than the old one. Sometimes I feel like vaccine producers are just rubbing their hands and giving us more and more vaccines for diseases that are not natural.

There are so many different mutations out there already, in Brazil, UK, South Africa. It will be hard for the vaccines to cover all the possible mutations from the start. My bet is that we will see new vaccines coming out at the end of this year, so that there will a need for everybody to get another vaccine. Also we still don't know the long term immunity of the vaccines yet. It could be the case that the vaccines will be recurring event every year.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: squatz1 on February 26, 2021, 04:19:47 AM
Unfortunately, no. As we all can see there is new version of covid spreading more and faster than the old one. Sometimes I feel like vaccine producers are just rubbing their hands and giving us more and more vaccines for diseases that are not natural.

There are so many different mutations out there already, in Brazil, UK, South Africa. It will be hard for the vaccines to cover all the possible mutations from the start. My bet is that we will see new vaccines coming out at the end of this year, so that there will a need for everybody to get another vaccine. Also we still don't know the long term immunity of the vaccines yet. It could be the case that the vaccines will be recurring event every year.

Some of the vaccines that are already out help against these mutations, not the same degree that they would the normal strain though it is good enough to not be scared. We shouldn’t write off these vaccines even if there are mutations out there. Worst case you’d require a booster vaccine sometime in the future.

Here’s a quote from CNBC about the mutations and vaccines:

Evidence so far suggests that the two Covid-19 vaccines authorized in the U.S., from Moderna and Pfizer-BioNTech, appear to offer good protection against new variants.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: tvbcof on February 26, 2021, 01:11:28 PM

If Pfizer is successfully sued for NEGLIGENCE then _Pfizer_ gets the nations military bases of and central bank assets from the country to pay for their losses.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/1QGYb5SN2gcK/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/1QGYb5SN2gcK/)

I could tell that there was fishy shit going on with Pfizer running around getting confidentiality agreements before negotiaions for supply of their experimental gene therapies, but even I didn't imagine this level of insult.

Now we know what Gates was smirking about in this one from back in May:  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jh7T0SmEhUsQ/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/Jh7T0SmEhUsQ/)



Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on February 27, 2021, 03:04:00 AM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


No. It's the start of continued dependence on more and more vaccines in the future.


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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: virasog on February 27, 2021, 05:22:08 AM
They haven't tested it against natural immunity. That is 100%  effective with no side effects.

One of the most effective ways for a vaccine to cure us from Covid, is to use it to kill off all the people. No people, nobody will have to worry about Covid any longer, right? We can see from what is happening to people who take/get the vaccine, that this is what is starting to happen.

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Don't know if these vaccines could really cure the covid or protect us with this virus. Remember covid-19 was not a natural disease so you cannot be sure of the motive behind these vaccines too.

With the virus, you die in 14 days while with these vaccine what the number of days you will be able to live  ???


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: shintaye1 on March 04, 2021, 02:21:57 AM
ds


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: tvbcof on March 04, 2021, 03:05:46 AM

Don't know if these vaccines could really cure the covid or protect us with this virus. Remember covid-19 was not a natural disease so you cannot be sure of the motive behind these vaccines too.


The so-called 'vaccines' for so-called 'covid' are designed to, in part, create pools of asymptomatic carriers who can give safe harbor to the virus (and other non-lethal biological weapons of the same class) and help it spread.  In this way it they are similar to the pertussis vaccine.



Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Poker Player on March 04, 2021, 04:57:58 AM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


No. It's the start of continued dependence on more and more vaccines in the future.


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I believe this is the key. With vaccinations every 6 months for COVID and diseases that arise, constant profits are assured everywhere for pharmaceuticals, for low risk diseases. As if it wasn't enough how many people there already are with chronic medications that can be avoided with natural remedies.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Tash on March 04, 2021, 07:47:30 AM
Vaccines it the "real" start of the virus, as bill gates has promised it will get real attention.
https://www.planet-today.com/2021/03/dozens-of-italian-teachers-fall-ill.html#gsc.tab=0


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on March 04, 2021, 09:06:33 PM
Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?


Experimental Vaccine Death Rate for Israel's Elderly 40 Times Higher Than COVID-19 Deaths:  (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/300761-2021-03-04-experimental-vaccine-death-rate-for-israels-elderly-40-times-higher.htm)



While in January a group of independent doctors concluded that experimental COVID-19 vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, a new analysis of vaccine-related death rates in Israel demonstrates that this may indeed be the case to dramatic levels.

A re-analysis of published data from the Israeli Health Ministry by Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a member of the faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases at Aix-Marseille University, and engineer Haim Yativ reveal, in short, that the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

While the full mathematical analysis may be found in the article itself, the authors demonstrate how among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2 percent … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated. This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination."

"This scary picture also extends to those below 65," the researchers continued. During the five-week vaccination process "0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times) during this five-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate."

As reported by IsraelNationalNews (INN), Seligmann is of Israeli-Luxembourg nationality, has a biology degree from Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and has written more than 100 scientific publications. INN reports the researchers "have no conflicts or interests other than having children in Israel."


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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: hulla on March 04, 2021, 09:57:20 PM
Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?
You make a good point about the use of the military for the experimental vaccine cause they are making alot of sacrifices for the country but the use of the elderly people for the experimental vaccine is not good either and it does matter alot even if they are going to die soon.
Having said that, the experiment should be performed on a volunteer.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Gyfts on March 05, 2021, 12:11:02 AM
Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?

So badecker, I think we found the flaw in your logic.

If the COVID vaccine damages the health and natural immunity of any individual who has the misfortune of being jabbed, and that the government is pushing vaccines as a tactic of population control, then it would make no sense for the vaccine to be distributed amongst the armed forces. If you have a weak military, you have a weak country.


So which is it? The vaccine is safe and actually serves a purpose? Or, the government is acting against their self interest and are weakening their own military? Which seems more plausible, because the government acting against their own self interest seems the least plausible.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Natsuu on March 05, 2021, 02:45:32 PM
Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?
You make a good point about the use of the military for the experimental vaccine cause they are making alot of sacrifices for the country but the use of the elderly people for the experimental vaccine is not good either and it does matter alot even if they are going to die soon.
Having said that, the experiment should be performed on a volunteer.

Elderlies are actually volunteers who signs a written consent before they get vaccinated.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Tash on March 05, 2021, 03:39:54 PM
Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?

So badecker, I think we found the flaw in your logic.

If the COVID vaccine damages the health and natural immunity of any individual who has the misfortune of being jabbed, and that the government is pushing vaccines as a tactic of population control, then it would make no sense for the vaccine to be distributed amongst the armed forces. If you have a weak military, you have a weak country.


So which is it? The vaccine is safe and actually serves a purpose? Or, the government is acting against their self interest and are weakening their own military? Which seems more plausible, because the government acting against their own self interest seems the least plausible.

Armed forces for the last 100 years or so been canon fodder lots of time, just take Normandy. France coast line is long, lots of beaches with zero defense, but no lets go in some small stretch of land with crazy amount of heavy fortified bunkers. Nothing but sacrificial lamb.
Most people would have preferred  to stayed in bed with wife and not freeze in some wet, cold dirt hole in country far away. It was the law to fight the “enemy”, same it is the law in lots of places to wear a mask because the evil “enemy” ….Once able men are gone/out of the way with rest of population you do as please.
There is no “vaccine” for covid only a treatment.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Gyfts on March 05, 2021, 06:28:41 PM
Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?

So badecker, I think we found the flaw in your logic.

If the COVID vaccine damages the health and natural immunity of any individual who has the misfortune of being jabbed, and that the government is pushing vaccines as a tactic of population control, then it would make no sense for the vaccine to be distributed amongst the armed forces. If you have a weak military, you have a weak country.


So which is it? The vaccine is safe and actually serves a purpose? Or, the government is acting against their self interest and are weakening their own military? Which seems more plausible, because the government acting against their own self interest seems the least plausible.

Armed forces for the last 100 years or so been canon fodder lots of time, just take Normandy. France coast line is long, lots of beaches with zero defense, but no lets go in some small stretch of land with crazy amount of heavy fortified bunkers. Nothing but sacrificial lamb.
Most people would have preferred  to stayed in bed with wife and not freeze in some wet, cold dirt hole in country far away. It was the law to fight the “enemy”, same it is the law in lots of places to wear a mask because the evil “enemy” ….Once able men are gone/out of the way with rest of population you do as please.
There is no “vaccine” for covid only a treatment.

Then what is the viable treatment option? A vaccine is "preventative treatment". Yes, some of the armed forces can be viewed as sacrificial lamb to wealthy establishment politicians, but it still doesn't make sense to vaccinate the entirety of the armed forces with an ineffective vaccine when you depend on them to serve your interest. You expend your entire military, then who exists to defend the nation? No one.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Tash on March 05, 2021, 07:45:29 PM
Cheap and viable treatment options
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.msg56403712#msg56403712

If active duty members drop dead on the spot, what hope have elderly already weak person have?
Beside what will be long term effects, nobody can answer now.  MEDICAL SHOCKER (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-02-scientists-discover-mrna-inactivates-tumor-suppressing-proteins.html)

Injured by a Vaccine? Here’s How to Report It
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/injured-by-vaccine-how-to-report-it/


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: hulla on March 05, 2021, 10:18:47 PM
Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?
You make a good point about the use of the military for the experimental vaccine cause they are making alot of sacrifices for the country but the use of the elderly people for the experimental vaccine is not good either and it does matter alot even if they are going to die soon.
Having said that, the experiment should be performed on a volunteer.

Elderlies are actually volunteers who signs a written consent before they get vaccinated.
I am aware of that but I only disagreed with @BADecker statement about the elders being used as an experiment for the covid-19 vaccine without their permission. We'll all grow old someday and we will be treated the same way we treat the elders of today.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on March 06, 2021, 12:32:56 AM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?

No. It's the end of a lot of lives of the elderly... a kinda switched-in euthanasia.


REPORT: Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine killed 40 times more old people than the virus itself... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/300816-2021-03-05-report-pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-killed-40-times-more-old-people.htm)



A re-analysis of data provided by the Israeli Health Ministry concluded that Pfizer and BioNTech's messenger RNA (mRNA) gene therapy injections have already killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period.

Piggybacking on research from back in January which found that Chinese virus vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, this latest study indicts the Trump vaccines for causing more death rather than preventing it.

Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a faculty member at Aix-Marseille University in France demonstrated using a full mathematical analysis that among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated."

"This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination," he added.


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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Natsuu on March 06, 2021, 02:14:12 PM
Gradually the world begins to purge itself of this abomination. The rate of vaccination increases every day and the more people are vaccinated the sooner we can get back to normal life. As of this moment, Israel is  leading, ~99 per 100 people  are vaccinated. IMO, they have the best government which care of people.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations


How I wonder, why these people are not dead yet. As there are some CONSPIRACY that these vaccines are tools for mass murder. whoosh, Israel would be filled with houses with no humans inside  ???


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on March 06, 2021, 05:37:25 PM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.


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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Mauser on March 06, 2021, 05:37:35 PM
I read in an article that the AstraZeneca vaccine is the cheapest one and with the most side effects. This is probably why so many people prefer the Pfizer Biontech vaccine. Unfortunately most of us can't choose and we will just have to take whatever is offered to us. The most asked for vaccine seems to be the one from Johnson and Johnson, because it takes only shot of the vaccine to fully work.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: examplens on March 06, 2021, 06:30:34 PM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?

No. It's the end of a lot of lives of the elderly... a kinda switched-in euthanasia.


REPORT: Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine killed 40 times more old people than the virus itself... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/300816-2021-03-05-report-pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-killed-40-times-more-old-people.htm)



A re-analysis of data provided by the Israeli Health Ministry concluded that Pfizer and BioNTech's messenger RNA (mRNA) gene therapy injections have already killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period.

Piggybacking on research from back in January which found that Chinese virus vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, this latest study indicts the Trump vaccines for causing more death rather than preventing it.

Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a faculty member at Aix-Marseille University in France demonstrated using a full mathematical analysis that among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated."

"This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination," he added.


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Really? 40 times more than the virus? Do you believe this page and why? why are they very credible and thousands of others are not?
and I am vaccinated with Pfizer and here is no any negative reaction.

There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid. Can you please explain to his kids and family that there is no virus?
stop writing nonsense sitting at his computer.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on March 06, 2021, 06:39:02 PM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?

No. It's the end of a lot of lives of the elderly... a kinda switched-in euthanasia.


REPORT: Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine killed 40 times more old people than the virus itself... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/300816-2021-03-05-report-pfizers-coronavirus-vaccine-killed-40-times-more-old-people.htm)



A re-analysis of data provided by the Israeli Health Ministry concluded that Pfizer and BioNTech's messenger RNA (mRNA) gene therapy injections have already killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period.

Piggybacking on research from back in January which found that Chinese virus vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, this latest study indicts the Trump vaccines for causing more death rather than preventing it.

Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a faculty member at Aix-Marseille University in France demonstrated using a full mathematical analysis that among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated."

"This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination," he added.


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Really? 40 times more than the virus? Do you believe this page and why? why are they very credible and thousands of others are not?
and I am vaccinated with Pfizer and here is no any negative reaction.

There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid. Can you please explain to his kids and family that there is no virus?
stop writing nonsense sitting at his computer.

Nobody is saying your friend isn't fighting for his life. Doctors have to call it something. It used to be the flu, or pneumonia, or something else. And that's all Covid is. However, there doesn't seem to have been any isolation of Covid as a virus that anybody can find. It's all talk.

Look at the signature area of my post, and stop believing doctor nonsense. Get your friend healed.

Be happy about your no-reaction to Pfizer. Others aren't as healthy.

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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: virasog on March 07, 2021, 06:55:43 AM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.


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Its you, me and few others who know that there is no virus. However majority of the world will think that Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine helped in removing the covid-19 from the universe. They will make huge amount of money from this vaccine. I can see the whole medical industry is a direct benefit of this pandemic.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on March 09, 2021, 03:32:30 PM
Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.


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Its you, me and few others who know that there is no virus. However majority of the world will think that Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine helped in removing the covid-19 from the universe. They will make huge amount of money from this vaccine. I can see the whole medical industry is a direct benefit of this pandemic.

This thinking by the majority of the world, is giving the medical a blank check to do whatever they want. What will happen is, the vaccine will make people sicker over the long run. The medical will be able to call the new illnesses anything they want, and people will believe them, because people are dumber than bricks. This will become a constant cycle that increases until it swallows up everything in the whole world.

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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Tzupy on March 09, 2021, 08:59:10 PM
...
my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid.
...

If you have a friend who is severely sick with Covid-19, I suggest to give him:
NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide) 500 mg twice daily
Lactoferrin (apo, bovine) 250 mg twice daily
Both are affordable, and helpful against Covid-19, also are easy to tolerate (don't harm the liver, or other organs).


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: examplens on March 09, 2021, 09:15:31 PM
...
my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid.
...

If you have a friend who is severely sick with Covid-19, I suggest to give him:
NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide) 500 mg twice daily
Lactoferrin (apo, bovine) 250 mg twice daily
Both are affordable, and helpful against Covid-19, also are easy to tolerate (don't harm the liver, or other organs).

IDK, I can't help them so much. Everything escalated so fast. He is currently in a coma, I hope docs know what is best for them. Now in addition to the lungs, there are serious problems with the work of the heart and kidneys and the forecasts are not very optimistic. He is devastated in just a few days.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: tvbcof on March 09, 2021, 10:35:40 PM

IDK, I can't help them so much. Everything escalated so fast. He is currently in a coma, I hope docs know what is best for them.
...

I heard that in the right place (e.g., Jew York) at the right time (e.g., early 2020), each dead body with 'covid' was worth about $73,000 extra due to the various 'relief' programs and the earmarks and distributions of said funding.  The hospital administration, at least, knew 'what was best for them'...and a few whistleblowers came forward to describe how they were getting it.

Flyover country largely missed out on the 'pandemic' relief funding packages.  That was a good thing for the peeps in those states who met their maker from 'covid' in far fewer numbers.



Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Tzupy on March 09, 2021, 11:11:39 PM
...
my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid.
...

If you have a friend who is severely sick with Covid-19, I suggest to give him:
NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide) 500 mg twice daily
Lactoferrin (apo, bovine) 250 mg twice daily
Both are affordable, and helpful against Covid-19, also are easy to tolerate (don't harm the liver, or other organs).

IDK, I can't help them so much. Everything escalated so fast. He is currently in a coma, I hope docs know what is best for them. Now in addition to the lungs, there are serious problems with the work of the heart and kidneys and the forecasts are not very optimistic. He is devastated in just a few days.


I'm sorry to hear that your friend in such poor condition... Anyway, the severe stage of Covid-19 is characterised by inflammation, and oxidative stress. The two compounds I mentioned above
are reducing both inflammation, and oxidative stress, also have a moderate inhibitory effect on Sars-CoV-2, and NMN can restore the depleted lymphocytes.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on March 27, 2021, 11:20:05 AM
As usual, the medical and the governments have it backwards. That's why they are making super-spreaders out of ordinary people... through their vaccine injection.

Dig around the Internet and pull up the CDC VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) reports, and check into the thousands of reports of people who sought medical help after being vaccinated. They say VAERS only gets about 10% of adverse events reported to them... meaning you can safely multiply the numbers in the VAERS report by 10. Thousands dead.


Vaccinated people are walking biological time bombs and a THREAT to society (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-26-situation-update-mar-26-vaccinated-people-are-walking-biological-time-bombs.html#)



People who are ignorant enough to be injected with an experimental vaccine that accelerates the generation of highly contagious super strains in their own bodies are walking biological time bombs and a threat to society.

The globalists know this, and consistent with their goals of global mass extermination, they are giving the most dangerous and most contagious people “vaccine passports” so they can freely roam across society, spreading their super strain viruses far and wide. Again, this is all by design.

The safest people are those who have strong innate immune systems and have already built antibodies against the coronavirus, without needing any medical intervention. This is easily accomplished in most people with the help of vitamin D, zinc, nutrition, restful sleep and avoidance of toxic foods and medications.

Yet the entire “science” industry refuses to recognize any role whatsoever for innate immunity, and antibodies that individuals create on their own are not recognized as serving any function whatsoever. For example, you can’t get an “antibody passport” from showing your own innate immunity, even though you have already defeated the pathogen thanks to your God-given immune system.

Modern “science” — if we dare even call it that — wants you to believe you have no immune system at all and that your body must be hijacked by mRNA vaccines in order to function. This is a gigantic, dangerous lie, and it is repeated by nearly every media outlet, medical journal and medical “authority” around the world (most of whom are working for the CCP to destroy Western nations, of course).

If lockdowns, quarantines and masks were to be required for anyone, it should be the vaccinated!

It’s the vaccinated people that are the most dangerous to society and the most likely to infect others with super strains which are already demonstrating complete immunity to existing vaccines. The vaccines, in other words, have already been rendered largely obsolete.


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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Natsuu on March 27, 2021, 04:22:39 PM
There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid. Can you please explain to his kids and family that there is no virus?
stop writing nonsense sitting at his computer.

Nobody is saying your friend isn't fighting for his life. Doctors have to call it something. It used to be the flu, or pneumonia, or something else. And that's all Covid is. However, there doesn't seem to have been any isolation of Covid as a virus that anybody can find. It's all talk.

Look at the signature area of my post, and stop believing doctor nonsense. Get your friend healed.

Be happy about your no-reaction to Pfizer. Others aren't as healthy.

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"all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid"

I made it bolder just for you to understand.His friend probably has different kinds of disease right now, and the catalyst for the seriousness of this diseases is the COVID, that's what they meant. Pneumonia, flu, etc is treatable and not even a real concern in real time right now.

My mother has pneumonia once while being treated out of his brain tumor, and even pneumonia is deadly in her situation but she have endured it and even the doctor made us not to worry. Remember this is my mother having pneumonia while being treated for a brain tumor where the tumor almost cover a quarter of his brain.

On the other hand, his friend is a healthy man getting the "Pneumonia" and now fighting for his life? tell me that it is a simple pneumonia or even a flu.

And for the N'th time, there's many articles right here on the internet, publicly available that states it has been isolated in different countries!


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on March 27, 2021, 04:29:35 PM
There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid. Can you please explain to his kids and family that there is no virus?
stop writing nonsense sitting at his computer.

Nobody is saying your friend isn't fighting for his life. Doctors have to call it something. It used to be the flu, or pneumonia, or something else. And that's all Covid is. However, there doesn't seem to have been any isolation of Covid as a virus that anybody can find. It's all talk.

Look at the signature area of my post, and stop believing doctor nonsense. Get your friend healed.

Be happy about your no-reaction to Pfizer. Others aren't as healthy.

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"all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid"

I made it bolder just for you to understand.His friend probably has different kinds of disease right now, and the catalyst for the seriousness of this diseases is the COVID, that's what they meant. Pneumonia, flu, etc is treatable and not even a real concern in real time right now.

My mother has pneumonia once while being treated out of his brain tumor, and even pneumonia is deadly in her situation but she have endured it and even the doctor made us not to worry. Remember this is my mother having pneumonia while being treated for a brain tumor where the tumor almost cover a quarter of his brain.

On the other hand, his friend is a healthy man getting the "Pneumonia" and now fighting for his life? tell me that it is a simple pneumonia or even a flu.

And for the N'th time, there's many articles right here on the internet, publicly available that states it has been isolated in different countries!

Second hand info. They don't even let this into courts as evidence. Doctors say anything, but don't have proof. Covid is 100 percent hearsay, but if it isn't, it at least isn't a virus except through hearsay.

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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Natsuu on March 27, 2021, 04:41:00 PM
There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid. Can you please explain to his kids and family that there is no virus?
stop writing nonsense sitting at his computer.

Nobody is saying your friend isn't fighting for his life. Doctors have to call it something. It used to be the flu, or pneumonia, or something else. And that's all Covid is. However, there doesn't seem to have been any isolation of Covid as a virus that anybody can find. It's all talk.

Look at the signature area of my post, and stop believing doctor nonsense. Get your friend healed.

Be happy about your no-reaction to Pfizer. Others aren't as healthy.

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"all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid"

I made it bolder just for you to understand.His friend probably has different kinds of disease right now, and the catalyst for the seriousness of this diseases is the COVID, that's what they meant. Pneumonia, flu, etc is treatable and not even a real concern in real time right now.

My mother has pneumonia once while being treated out of his brain tumor, and even pneumonia is deadly in her situation but she have endured it and even the doctor made us not to worry. Remember this is my mother having pneumonia while being treated for a brain tumor where the tumor almost cover a quarter of his brain.

On the other hand, his friend is a healthy man getting the "Pneumonia" and now fighting for his life? tell me that it is a simple pneumonia or even a flu.

And for the N'th time, there's many articles right here on the internet, publicly available that states it has been isolated in different countries!

Second hand info. They don't even let this into courts as evidence. Doctors say anything, but don't have proof. Covid is 100 percent hearsay, but if it isn't, it at least isn't a virus except through hearsay.

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Oh you missed the point, when I pointed out about his comment which you clearly disregard. And it is even compacted in the 1st sentence, the next sentence is a supporting detail from my personal account which is also a valid statement given that were not even a court.

And COVID is 100% hearsay huh, lmao
https://jcm.asm.org/content/58/8/e01068-20.abstract (https://jcm.asm.org/content/58/8/e01068-20.abstract)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1760144 (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1760144)
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.5694/mja2.50569 (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.5694/mja2.50569)

Oooooh just the tip of the ice if you search the surface of the web.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on March 27, 2021, 05:01:36 PM

Second hand info. They don't even let this into courts as evidence. Doctors say anything, but don't have proof. Covid is 100 percent hearsay, but if it isn't, it at least isn't a virus except through hearsay.

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Oh you missed the point, when I pointed out about his comment which you clearly disregard. And it is even compacted in the 1st sentence, the next sentence is a supporting detail from my personal account which is also a valid statement given that were not even a court.

And COVID is 100% hearsay huh, lmao
https://jcm.asm.org/content/58/8/e01068-20.abstract (https://jcm.asm.org/content/58/8/e01068-20.abstract)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1760144 (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1760144)
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.5694/mja2.50569 (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.5694/mja2.50569)

Oooooh just the tip of the ice if you search the surface of the web.

Just a bunch of hearsay-like talk. Why? Because nobody is showing the lab notebook wording where the process is an in-progress operation.

Covid is important, right? At least many people think so, right? So why isn't there an actual isolation of the virus going on that is being recorded in video in process? Because isolation of the virus was never done.

I suspect that franky1 is burning up his keyboard and mouse right now to find a notebook and a video. Should be easy. Covid is important. People would want the knowledge and the proof. So why isn't the info readily available?

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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: Natsuu on March 28, 2021, 09:46:30 AM

Second hand info. They don't even let this into courts as evidence. Doctors say anything, but don't have proof. Covid is 100 percent hearsay, but if it isn't, it at least isn't a virus except through hearsay.

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Oh you missed the point, when I pointed out about his comment which you clearly disregard. And it is even compacted in the 1st sentence, the next sentence is a supporting detail from my personal account which is also a valid statement given that were not even a court.

And COVID is 100% hearsay huh, lmao
https://jcm.asm.org/content/58/8/e01068-20.abstract (https://jcm.asm.org/content/58/8/e01068-20.abstract)
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1760144 (https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/22221751.2020.1760144)
https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.5694/mja2.50569 (https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.5694/mja2.50569)

Oooooh just the tip of the ice if you search the surface of the web.

Just a bunch of hearsay-like talk. Why? Because nobody is showing the lab notebook wording where the process is an in-progress operation.

Covid is important, right? At least many people think so, right? So why isn't there an actual isolation of the virus going on that is being recorded in video in process? Because isolation of the virus was never done.

I suspect that franky1 is burning up his keyboard and mouse right now to find a notebook and a video. Should be easy. Covid is important. People would want the knowledge and the proof. So why isn't the info readily available?

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Lab notebook? really? HAHAHAHAHA, on what era do you live?

All the process is tabulated digitally, and as if you aren't aware that we're in digital age. And if there's even a notebook for research, all the inputs had already been input to the computers used in the research.

Video of isolation? WTF hahahahahahaha Can you send me please of other viruses video being isolated. Thanks



Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on March 28, 2021, 07:41:03 PM

Just a bunch of hearsay-like talk. Why? Because nobody is showing the lab notebook wording where the process is an in-progress operation.

Covid is important, right? At least many people think so, right? So why isn't there an actual isolation of the virus going on that is being recorded in video in process? Because isolation of the virus was never done.

I suspect that franky1 is burning up his keyboard and mouse right now to find a notebook and a video. Should be easy. Covid is important. People would want the knowledge and the proof. So why isn't the info readily available?

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Lab notebook? really? HAHAHAHAHA, on what era do you live?

All the process is tabulated digitally, and as if you aren't aware that we're in digital age. And if there's even a notebook for research, all the inputs had already been input to the computers used in the research.

Video of isolation? WTF hahahahahahaha Can you send me please of other viruses video being isolated. Thanks


Well, explain it then. The stuff that is being done in the lab doesn't simply jump into the record. Take a look at the info in an abstract. Either it was typed out by a person, or else by AI. And if a person or AI does it, show us the details of what is being done. In other words, they don't use car oil filters when they are filtering body fluids. Where's the record... the flow of the whole process, as it is being done, with the researcher explaining what he/she is doing every step of the way.

Probably I can't send you any videos of the isolation process being don on any virus. There probably aren't any. Since there might not be any viruses, there probably couldn't be any videos of them being isolated. But the point is, in this modern day of videoing everything, why would anybody be so negligent that he wouldn't video the isolation process of a virus... except that there wasn't any isolation, and maybe there wasn't any virus. Is the medical really THAT negligent, especially in the case of a pandemic virus?

You're beginning to show us that Natsuu is simply a way of saying "not so," without any thinking or verification behind it.

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Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: dongyi17 on April 05, 2021, 04:20:29 AM
The vaccine is not an assurance that you will not get affected by virus or it will end. Expert say when you are vaccinated possible you can free from other virus around you, specially when they have symptoms of COVID. It's much better to follow the health protocol given to us for our own safety by wearing mask and face shield, and by wash your hand regularly and keep social distancing that way we can live safer, healthier and longer.


Title: Re: Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?
Post by: BADecker on April 07, 2021, 02:00:50 AM
People are starting to check out the science behind the vaccine. This article breaks it down to its major, basic points... zombies, and dead ones at that.


Jim Stone: THE VAX DOESN'T FIGHT CORONA. RATHER IT COMMANDS YOUR BODY TO PRODUCE THE PRIONS THAT CAUSE MAD COW DISEASE, CREATING ZOMBIES (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/302374-2021-04-06-jim-stone-the-vax-doesnt-fight-corona-rather-it-commands.htm)



Puts a different spin on the CDC's Zombie Preparedness web page (https://www.cdc.gov/cpr/zombie/index.htm), doesn't it? That strange CDC post was a cryptic clue of what to expect in the near future.
-NW

Jim Stone, Freelance Journalist

PRECURSOR: Just so people know right off the bat what this is about, the MRNA corona vaccines don't fight coronavirus, they instead command your body to start producing the prion that causes mad cow disease.

I spent a while pondering the new revelations about the corona vax and figured out a key item that cinches the topic

First of all, for those who did not see it, over Easter weekend Alex did an emergency broadcast (https://www.bitchute.com/video/9Qb6OhTrc7Pc/) about the corona vax being specifically formulated to cause your body to produce the prion that causes mad cow disease. If you scroll down a little bit, it is there and it is all documented. Here is the revelation I finally had -

The ONLY reason why the Corona vax is an MRNA vax (and the first one to boot) that programs your body rather than triggers an immune response - the ONLY reason for this is because if they injected the prions they probably could not put enough of them in a reasonable shot to do the trick, and because a conventional vax cannot be made to force your body to start producing it's destruction. A conventional shot can be very destructive, but to make it bad enough it would have to be too devastating too often early on. They wanted a shot that would cause delayed devastation and death and there was no way to formulate a conventional vaccine to do that without killing too many people up front.

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2021 HRR Special Report - How to save the life of a family member who took vax - https://www.brighteon.com/57387c35-fbb4-4446-9a95-77aa08dba041. 16 minute video (essentially an audio).





This should be fun. Let's watch how long it takes for Texas to get a 4th wave. Actually, it's starting to look like Covid is following the standard flu cycle. All the lockdowns and shutdowns seems to have done is to have extended the flu season for a little longer.


Dr. Fauci Can't Explain Why Texas COVID Cases Keep Dropping Despite Reopening (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/302368-2021-04-06-dr-fauci-cant-explain-why-texas-covid-cases-keep-dropping.htm)



The decisions prompted Dr. Anthony Fauci and legions of public health "experts" to warn about the devastating consequences - thousands of unnecessary deaths would result, they said - however, as the data show, practically every metric has shown that the Lone Star State's outbreak has continued to recede (https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/blue-states-lead-us-covid-resurgence-double-mutant-strains-discovered-california), even as blue states like Michigan are seeing a new surge in infections (believed to be driven by "mutant" strains (https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/blue-states-lead-us-covid-resurgence-double-mutant-strains-discovered-california)).

As epidemiologists everywhere have struggled to come up with an explanation, it's worth noting that Texans are dining out more, according to Opentable seatings, which have become a closely watched proxy for post-quarantine economic activity.

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