Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?

[BADecker]

Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?


Experimental Vaccine Death Rate for Israel's Elderly 40 Times Higher Than COVID-19 Deaths:

While in January a group of independent doctors concluded that experimental COVID-19 vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, a new analysis of vaccine-related death rates in Israel demonstrates that this may indeed be the case to dramatic levels.

A re-analysis of published data from the Israeli Health Ministry by Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a member of the faculty of Medicine Emerging Infectious and Tropical Diseases at Aix-Marseille University, and engineer Haim Yativ reveal, in short, that the mRNA experimental vaccine from Pfizer killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period. Among the younger class, these numbers are compounded to death rates at 260 times what the COVID-19 virus would have claimed in the given time frame.

While the full mathematical analysis may be found in the article itself, the authors demonstrate how among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2 percent … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated. This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination."

"This scary picture also extends to those below 65," the researchers continued. During the five-week vaccination process "0.05 percent, meaning 50 among 100,000, died. This is to be compared to the 0.19 per 100,000 dying from COVID-19 (who) are not vaccinated … Hence the death rate of this age group increased by 260 (times) during this five-week period of the vaccination process, as compared to their natural COVID-19 death rate."

As reported by IsraelNationalNews (INN), Seligmann is of Israeli-Luxembourg nationality, has a biology degree from Hebrew University of Jerusalem, and has written more than 100 scientific publications. INN reports the researchers "have no conflicts or interests other than having children in Israel."

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[hulla]

Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?

You make a good point about the use of the military for the experimental vaccine cause they are making alot of sacrifices for the country but the use of the elderly people for the experimental vaccine is not good either and it does matter alot even if they are going to die soon.
Having said that, the experiment should be performed on a volunteer.

[Gyfts]

Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?

So badecker, I think we found the flaw in your logic.

If the COVID vaccine damages the health and natural immunity of any individual who has the misfortune of being jabbed, and that the government is pushing vaccines as a tactic of population control, then it would make no sense for the vaccine to be distributed amongst the armed forces. If you have a weak military, you have a weak country.


So which is it? The vaccine is safe and actually serves a purpose? Or, the government is acting against their self interest and are weakening their own military? Which seems more plausible, because the government acting against their own self interest seems the least plausible.

[Natsuu]

Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?

You make a good point about the use of the military for the experimental vaccine cause they are making alot of sacrifices for the country but the use of the elderly people for the experimental vaccine is not good either and it does matter alot even if they are going to die soon.
Having said that, the experiment should be performed on a volunteer.

Elderlies are actually volunteers who signs a written consent before they get vaccinated.

[Tash]

Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?

So badecker, I think we found the flaw in your logic.

If the COVID vaccine damages the health and natural immunity of any individual who has the misfortune of being jabbed, and that the government is pushing vaccines as a tactic of population control, then it would make no sense for the vaccine to be distributed amongst the armed forces. If you have a weak military, you have a weak country.


So which is it? The vaccine is safe and actually serves a purpose? Or, the government is acting against their self interest and are weakening their own military? Which seems more plausible, because the government acting against their own self interest seems the least plausible.

Armed forces for the last 100 years or so been canon fodder lots of time, just take Normandy. France coast line is long, lots of beaches with zero defense, but no lets go in some small stretch of land with crazy amount of heavy fortified bunkers. Nothing but sacrificial lamb.
Most people would have preferred  to stayed in bed with wife and not freeze in some wet, cold dirt hole in country far away. It was the law to fight the “enemy”, same it is the law in lots of places to wear a mask because the evil “enemy” ….Once able men are gone/out of the way with rest of population you do as please.
There is no “vaccine” for covid only a treatment.

[Gyfts]

Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?

So badecker, I think we found the flaw in your logic.

If the COVID vaccine damages the health and natural immunity of any individual who has the misfortune of being jabbed, and that the government is pushing vaccines as a tactic of population control, then it would make no sense for the vaccine to be distributed amongst the armed forces. If you have a weak military, you have a weak country.


So which is it? The vaccine is safe and actually serves a purpose? Or, the government is acting against their self interest and are weakening their own military? Which seems more plausible, because the government acting against their own self interest seems the least plausible.

Armed forces for the last 100 years or so been canon fodder lots of time, just take Normandy. France coast line is long, lots of beaches with zero defense, but no lets go in some small stretch of land with crazy amount of heavy fortified bunkers. Nothing but sacrificial lamb.
Most people would have preferred  to stayed in bed with wife and not freeze in some wet, cold dirt hole in country far away. It was the law to fight the “enemy”, same it is the law in lots of places to wear a mask because the evil “enemy” ….Once able men are gone/out of the way with rest of population you do as please.
There is no “vaccine” for covid only a treatment.

Then what is the viable treatment option? A vaccine is "preventative treatment". Yes, some of the armed forces can be viewed as sacrificial lamb to wealthy establishment politicians, but it still doesn't make sense to vaccinate the entirety of the armed forces with an ineffective vaccine when you depend on them to serve your interest. You expend your entire military, then who exists to defend the nation? No one.

[Tash]

Cheap and viable treatment options
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.msg56403712#msg56403712

If active duty members drop dead on the spot, what hope have elderly already weak person have?
Beside what will be long term effects, nobody can answer now. MEDICAL SHOCKER

Injured by a Vaccine? Here’s How to Report It
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/injured-by-vaccine-how-to-report-it/

[hulla]

Population reduction. I don't understand why countries want their military to get the experimental vaccine. They need their soldiers to fight. Of course, with the elderly it doesn't matter at all, right? Those people are almost gone anyway, right? Who cares if the vaccine makers are going to be elderly sometime, right?

You make a good point about the use of the military for the experimental vaccine cause they are making alot of sacrifices for the country but the use of the elderly people for the experimental vaccine is not good either and it does matter alot even if they are going to die soon.
Having said that, the experiment should be performed on a volunteer.

Elderlies are actually volunteers who signs a written consent before they get vaccinated.

I am aware of that but I only disagreed with @BADecker statement about the elders being used as an experiment for the covid-19 vaccine without their permission. We'll all grow old someday and we will be treated the same way we treat the elders of today.

[BADecker]

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?

No. It's the end of a lot of lives of the elderly... a kinda switched-in euthanasia.


REPORT: Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine killed 40 times more old people than the virus itself...

A re-analysis of data provided by the Israeli Health Ministry concluded that Pfizer and BioNTech's messenger RNA (mRNA) gene therapy injections have already killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period.

Piggybacking on research from back in January which found that Chinese virus vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, this latest study indicts the Trump vaccines for causing more death rather than preventing it.

Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a faculty member at Aix-Marseille University in France demonstrated using a full mathematical analysis that among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated."

"This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination," he added.

[Natsuu]

Gradually the world begins to purge itself of this abomination. The rate of vaccination increases every day and the more people are vaccinated the sooner we can get back to normal life. As of this moment, Israel is  leading, ~99 per 100 people  are vaccinated. IMO, they have the best government which care of people.

https://ourworldindata.org/covid-vaccinations

How I wonder, why these people are not dead yet. As there are some CONSPIRACY that these vaccines are tools for mass murder. whoosh, Israel would be filled with houses with no humans inside 

[BADecker]

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

[Mauser]

I read in an article that the AstraZeneca vaccine is the cheapest one and with the most side effects. This is probably why so many people prefer the Pfizer Biontech vaccine. Unfortunately most of us can't choose and we will just have to take whatever is offered to us. The most asked for vaccine seems to be the one from Johnson and Johnson, because it takes only shot of the vaccine to fully work.

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Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?

No. It's the end of a lot of lives of the elderly... a kinda switched-in euthanasia.


REPORT: Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine killed 40 times more old people than the virus itself...

A re-analysis of data provided by the Israeli Health Ministry concluded that Pfizer and BioNTech's messenger RNA (mRNA) gene therapy injections have already killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period.

Piggybacking on research from back in January which found that Chinese virus vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, this latest study indicts the Trump vaccines for causing more death rather than preventing it.

Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a faculty member at Aix-Marseille University in France demonstrated using a full mathematical analysis that among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated."

"This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination," he added.

Really? 40 times more than the virus? Do you believe this page and why? why are they very credible and thousands of others are not?
and I am vaccinated with Pfizer and here is no any negative reaction.

There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid. Can you please explain to his kids and family that there is no virus?
stop writing nonsense sitting at his computer.

[BADecker]

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?

No. It's the end of a lot of lives of the elderly... a kinda switched-in euthanasia.


REPORT: Pfizer's coronavirus vaccine killed 40 times more old people than the virus itself...

A re-analysis of data provided by the Israeli Health Ministry concluded that Pfizer and BioNTech's messenger RNA (mRNA) gene therapy injections have already killed "about 40 times more (elderly) people than the disease itself would have killed" during a recent five-week vaccination period.

Piggybacking on research from back in January which found that Chinese virus vaccines are "not safer" than the virus itself, this latest study indicts the Trump vaccines for causing more death rather than preventing it.

Dr. Hervé Seligmann, a faculty member at Aix-Marseille University in France demonstrated using a full mathematical analysis that among "those vaccinated and above 65, 0.2% … died during the three-week period between doses, hence about 200 among 100,000 vaccinated."

"This is to be compared to the 4.91 dead among 100,000 dying from COVID-19 without vaccination," he added.

Really? 40 times more than the virus? Do you believe this page and why? why are they very credible and thousands of others are not?
and I am vaccinated with Pfizer and here is no any negative reaction.

There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid. Can you please explain to his kids and family that there is no virus?
stop writing nonsense sitting at his computer.

Nobody is saying your friend isn't fighting for his life. Doctors have to call it something. It used to be the flu, or pneumonia, or something else. And that's all Covid is. However, there doesn't seem to have been any isolation of Covid as a virus that anybody can find. It's all talk.

Look at the signature area of my post, and stop believing doctor nonsense. Get your friend healed.

Be happy about your no-reaction to Pfizer. Others aren't as healthy.

[virasog]

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

Its you, me and few others who know that there is no virus. However majority of the world will think that Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine helped in removing the covid-19 from the universe. They will make huge amount of money from this vaccine. I can see the whole medical industry is a direct benefit of this pandemic.

[BADecker]

Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine, is it the end to the deadly corona virus?


There isn't any virus. The vaccine is simply the causal effect for reduced procreation capabilities among recipients of it. And, of course, the cause of many side effects and deaths.

Its you, me and few others who know that there is no virus. However majority of the world will think that Pfizer-BioNtech vaccine helped in removing the covid-19 from the universe. They will make huge amount of money from this vaccine. I can see the whole medical industry is a direct benefit of this pandemic.

This thinking by the majority of the world, is giving the medical a blank check to do whatever they want. What will happen is, the vaccine will make people sicker over the long run. The medical will be able to call the new illnesses anything they want, and people will believe them, because people are dumber than bricks. This will become a constant cycle that increases until it swallows up everything in the whole world.

[Tzupy]

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my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid.
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If you have a friend who is severely sick with Covid-19, I suggest to give him:
NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide) 500 mg twice daily
Lactoferrin (apo, bovine) 250 mg twice daily
Both are affordable, and helpful against Covid-19, also are easy to tolerate (don't harm the liver, or other organs).

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my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid.
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If you have a friend who is severely sick with Covid-19, I suggest to give him:
NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide) 500 mg twice daily
Lactoferrin (apo, bovine) 250 mg twice daily
Both are affordable, and helpful against Covid-19, also are easy to tolerate (don't harm the liver, or other organs).

IDK, I can't help them so much. Everything escalated so fast. He is currently in a coma, I hope docs know what is best for them. Now in addition to the lungs, there are serious problems with the work of the heart and kidneys and the forecasts are not very optimistic. He is devastated in just a few days.

[tvbcof]

IDK, I can't help them so much. Everything escalated so fast. He is currently in a coma, I hope docs know what is best for them.
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I heard that in the right place (e.g., Jew York) at the right time (e.g., early 2020), each dead body with 'covid' was worth about $73,000 extra due to the various 'relief' programs and the earmarks and distributions of said funding.  The hospital administration, at least, knew 'what was best for them'...and a few whistleblowers came forward to describe how they were getting it.

Flyover country largely missed out on the 'pandemic' relief funding packages.  That was a good thing for the peeps in those states who met their maker from 'covid' in far fewer numbers.

[Tzupy]

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my friend is fighting for his life right now, all doctors say his condition is caused by Covid.
...

If you have a friend who is severely sick with Covid-19, I suggest to give him:
NMN (nicotinamide mononucleotide) 500 mg twice daily
Lactoferrin (apo, bovine) 250 mg twice daily
Both are affordable, and helpful against Covid-19, also are easy to tolerate (don't harm the liver, or other organs).

IDK, I can't help them so much. Everything escalated so fast. He is currently in a coma, I hope docs know what is best for them. Now in addition to the lungs, there are serious problems with the work of the heart and kidneys and the forecasts are not very optimistic. He is devastated in just a few days.

I'm sorry to hear that your friend in such poor condition... Anyway, the severe stage of Covid-19 is characterised by inflammation, and oxidative stress. The two compounds I mentioned above
are reducing both inflammation, and oxidative stress, also have a moderate inhibitory effect on Sars-CoV-2, and NMN can restore the depleted lymphocytes.