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https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/02/18/geforce-cmp/

This should be interesting.  How long before we some driver level hack to unlock their full potential?

The specs for these new CPM mining cards don't sound too optimal, but maybe after OC and underclock they will be in line with current 3XXX GPU's.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/cmp/

How are they going to force miners to update to the newest driver? Without such mechanism, this isn't really a solution. Also, miners could just try to create their own drivers in the future. And the worst, if their algorithms would detect false-positives during gaming, it could create very annoying frame drops that would ruin the experience for people who just bought a top GPU for games.

IMO Nvidia should create ASICS based on their GPU technology that will far outperform their GPU in mining, to solve the problem once and for all. Releasing dedicated mining GPU is not enough, miners actually seek gaming GPUs because they have higher resale value once the bull run is over.

What's their problem?  >:( What business does geforce and nvidia have with miners that makes them want to lower hashrate for RTX3060? People don't just buy costly gpu for gaming only, in fact everyone has the right to do what they like with their gpu since they paid for them, what's nvidia business in mining ? This is weird to be honest

The right procedure here is make their gpu miners better than gaming gpus, limiting gpus will only make it worse.

hahahahahaha asshole scalpers and miners hoping to bot the next launch got a swift kick in the nuts.

Nvidia has always software locked cards, you just didnt care before because it never affected you.

For the longest time 10 bit color was only available on Geforce GPUs for full screen games and nothing else. Also, the only thing that differentiates the Quadro line is software level tweaks that severely reduce the capability of Geforce cards. The only hardware difference is usually ECC memory.

Dont be mad they limited 3060 hashrate, this had to happen, there is no sign of this ending right now and gamers have been raging hard. And its only the 3060 they're doing this to, and I suppose possibly any future 6GB GPU that comes after it.

I dont follow what you are saying at all.

They are only limiting the 3060. Nvidia made the hardware and they alone make the drivers. The 3060 will not run on drivers currently available. So when Nvidia releases the 3060 drivers on launch, they will be modified to reduce hashrate.

There will be no way to "unlock" hashrate because the drivers are closed source. I imagine its going to be a little harder than unlocking unlimited NVENC sessions on geforce cards like I did for my 1650 Super in my Plex server.

Nvidia isnt stupid. Someone may figure out a driver hack but if they do, dont count on it being made public.

I think their goal is to dump all their low binned dies that they had no use for in these mining cards.

How is this going to be possible when I can just decide to install old drivers on the RTX 3060 gpu? I will wait and see how this plays out, unless the gpu is forced to work with the only driver they plan to provide, anyways there are many other GPUs available for mining, I have no problem with RTX3070 anyways

What are you talking about? There are no "old drivers". The only driver that will work will be the one that launches with the 3060.

You cant turn a Geforce card into a Quadro, same will apply here.

will this also affect RTX 3060 Ti ?

3060 only, and probably any cards that come after it. i.e. 3050, 3050 Ti and 3080 Ti.

It looks like it works like AV by detecting Eth mining signatures. That won't work, code can be obfuscated.
The'll have to keep updating the drivers to detect new signatures.

They need to use the carrot, not the stick, make mining GPUs hash faster legitimately. Tilting the balance
by artificially slowing mining on RTX will fail.

If these are mining cards why are they making models with 10 GB of memory?  Ridiculous.

Also this is merely a giant smoke screen.  Like the other mining gpus, they will be impossible to buy for normal miners and will be overpriced. 

This might not be a bad thing considering the supply shortage, as long as they're priced accordingly.

From Videocardz:
"Today NVIDIA announced that GeForce RTX 3060 drivers will be able to detect if the user is mining cryptocurrency. This will automatically limit the performance by 50%, which will basically render mining on this card unprofitable. This is exactly what happened to the graphics card that was tested by CryptoLeo.

Just a minute or two after starting, the hash rate has dropped from 41.5 MH/s to 26-24 MH/s. Since the author of the video has no drivers for this card, this would suggest that the anti-mining algorithm is not present in the software, but rather implemented in the BIOS itself.

The RTX 3060 is the first graphics card that will feature this solution to detect mining. In the next few weeks, we should be seeing more news on the Crypto Mining Processor HX series that NVIDIA announced today."

https://videocardz.com/newz/zotac-geforce-rtx-3060-early-gpu-mining-test-shows-reduced-hashrate-in-action

"...rather implemented in the BIOS itself."
So, flashing would fix this right?

But then this:
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1362432312579743744

Can Nvidia do this without any repercussions, from a business standpoint or maybe even legally ? New device ids, etc., so you can't flash old bios or else you brick the card?

Actually something else is happening on Jan 1 the networks was 293,000 gh

We know there are asics and we know lots of other cards but it is simply to just use 3080's cause 10 = 1 gh
 

10 x 3080 to a gh means

only 2,930,000  3080's = all the hashrate on eth


so here we are 49 days later


hashrate is

403,000gh

or 4,030,000.    3080's


that means about 1,100,000     3080s were added in 49 days.  now we know there are amd,nvidia,asics.


so say 1/3 of each is the net work .

that means about 370,000    3080.s.   were added in 7 weeks.  so 7.1 x that = 2.62 million gpus a year. Just for mining.

could that be correct?  

There should be a way around this, years ago there are gurus online that build their own Nvidia and AMD drivers from scratch to get better performance out of a gpu and they work better than the official released drivers, I'm guessing this same thing will happen with this RTX3060

Due to the fact that every single computer-related community, even large sites like anandtech, tomshardware, etc. are talking about mining this means that every single 3xxx 68xx that is sold it is actually used for mining, let it be professional miners or gamers. Due to the hype and media cover, everybody knows about mining and everybody is mining. So yes, the vast majority of new hashrate is from 3xxx 68xx ... ASIC can't just come ouf of the blue ...

Nvidia are fully loaded already I guess that's why they have the gut to make such move, if no one is buying their gpu for any reasons and now they are selling big because of miners they won't be doing all this rubbish, even every hardcore gamers are now mining with their pc, I haven't play any pc game since mining becomes profitable, I don't blame them, let intel gpu become a thing maybe they will rethink again

Tom's is speculating some of the CMPs will use Turing. A rebranded 2080ti at half the
price might be worth it. But I may be deluding myself trying to find a positive angle.

nvidia had already locked the hashrate. some enthusiast on youtube just tested zotac 3060 : eth hashrate was 45 mh/s and then after few seconds went down no 25 mh/s

I got the news on time. Thank God not after the release

That ended with Maxwell cards, you'd be locked to 300 MHz now.

Also, its apparently enforced via VBIOS as well so seemingly one would need to mod VBIOS AND the driver, they've done a very good job making it essentially impossible to get around.

And if by chance some person or team was lucky enough to get around it, do you really think they'd share it publicly? No, it only make sense to keep it to yourself and build a 3060 farm.

Sadly this isnt true they are running and it looks like it isnt a drive issue rather a vbios one... See here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/MineEth/permalink/1128928574187552/?comment_id=1128993570847719&reply_comment_id=1129021457511597

Well I guess we all know now how fast these will hash at. 

Dumb guy question.  Does this halving happen on both Windows and Linux?

If they do this on future releases it could make the 3070, 3080, 3090 and 3060 ti's hold there value longer. 

It sounds as if someone pays nvidia to do all this s***, but honestly thanks to Miners NVIDIA cards are selling like hotcakes today isn't that a good thing? Very soon things will take an unexpected turns when nvidia and AMD have a new contestants like Intel for example

Considering how easy it is to flash Nvidia BIOS in hive, it is going to be funny if someone can flash a 3060 ti bios on their plain 3060 and bypasses this issue altogether.  I'm still hoping its driver related and not BIOS as I think it would be much easier to fix.  One thing I saw was someone restarting their miner ever 50sec before the hashrate halves.

https://www.pcgamer.com/nvidia-ethereum-mining-limiter-cannot-be-hacked/

Well I think Nvidia just fucked themselves by challenging everyone to hack the unhackable.

If it only targets eth then eth could change their algo.

I's hard to say how much is bluster. Nvidia's claims seem exagerated to please gamers.
I'm sure hackers are already reverse engineering the limiter.

I'm curious if they are just checking for eth and not other algos too.   ??? ???

and nothing is unhackable... it just hasn't been hacked yet.  ;D ;D

I heard, the limit must be set in bios not in the drivers.

I managed to get one on Amazon, waiting for ship date. 

Their dedicated miner hashrate does not look very good, depending on the MSRP.

If the 3060 mines at 24, given what I'm getting on an RX 470 today, that still means the 3060 will make $3.12, thats 130 days ROI before electricity costs.

Two months ago I was mining the 470 at about $1.20 a day and as long as I broke even on electricty, I was OK.

So, nice try Nvidia!

only eth

You're not taking into considering the difficulty going up and electric of course. No one is going to be paying $329 for these, more like $400 if you include taxes.

This is not a desirable mining card at all. GTX 1060 6GB can be had for cheaper and do the same.

I’m also not taking into account ETH and BTC doubling in 3 months!

Where can I find 1060’s, oh, the last 1060 on eBay sold for 398 today.

In other words, I will buy most cards that seem reasonable and have a responsible ROI horizon, while counting on the wizards on this forum to develop and publish a workable bios.

Nvidia came out and said its "un hackable". I would not bet on these suddenly getting unlocked.

Yes, you can flash firmware but no one has been able to edit firmware due to it being encrypted.

I think a quick fix would be a miner that can find a way to not trigger the built in hash rate drop which happens around 55sec of mining.

I'm missing something else.  

If Nvidia is maxed out on production of existing cards, how are they finding the capacity to tool up four brand new designs, why would they not use that capacity to just build more of the existing design.

Unless its a components problem and the new mining cards will not use the same parts?

Which would imply they have production capacity sitting idle right now?

I'm sure that after a while the drivers will be patched by "folk craftsmen", and after a while Nvidia official unlocked versions will appear. This is the dialectic of life and marketing. In addition, it is easy enough to adapt the Nvidia laptop driver for desctop graphics if desired. Such drivers for RTX3060 were already released in January 2021, and they have no restrictions for mining. This already  led to a unique phenomenon - the emergence of mining farms on laptops.

Hmmm no, I dont think so. The chips are different. The cuda core count is different along with a lot of the power delivery stuff.

Laptop has 6GB memory desktop has 12. Too many differences.

For the 3060 it was probably already factored into Nvidia's chip production capacity. 

For the new mining processors they may be repurposing old chips or releasing lower binned ones with memory they can get cheap.

It will be interesting to see how they price the mining ones and how well outside of massive farms they are received if widely available.

There's no problem, it's a company and they can do, it's our choice to buy or not, also there's a chance of people find a way to mining at full speed

But something here is a big problem: the fact that mining cards are almost impossible to buy outside the Asia-US.]
The beauty of decentralized mining is everybody can buy a GPU because they sell to a lot of countries and stores, but mining cards will probably be like the last ones from nvidia and amd, only available to some countries, and the big farms will buy everything.
A lot of stores didn't sell this card, and there's no resale value.

Until we see a legitimate mining card that matches the highest performing consumer GPU (currently the 3090 @ 120-125Mh/s)  I'd say thats a hard pass.

Nvidia failed before they began...

That 6, 8 or 10GB of memory onboard the CMP's is crap when the 3090 has 24GB...

Expect 3090 & 3080 prices to continue to rise.

Pretty much this, the idea is to make mining gpus a lot more attractive than gaming gpus.

They probably will use some defected GPU's and old GPU's. Which has some minor problems. Like RTX core, Display issues etc

It's up to them whether they want to limit it or not and this is a driver limitation not hardware so someone will unlock it for sure it's only a matter of time. at the end of the day miner will look at the price, availability and the hashrate it will produce, no one sell at MSRP here so have to wait until it hit the market and see the hashrate. If it's only hashing at 45 or even lower then i guess it's not worth it for miner, they will just buy 1660 super (cheaper), 5700 (more hashrate), or even 3060ti (efficiency at it's finest).

More news here (https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-anti-mining-algoritm-is-not-just-a-driver-thing-technology-could-expand-to-more-skus)

Seems like the anti-mining thing is not just a driver feature and it's implemented in hardware and BIOS too. And the newly-produced RTX 3000 cards will have it too.

But I still think there's a chance that someone will bypass this technology. Maybe someone will figure out how to use older BIOS and drivers with these new cards, or make open-source version specifically designed for mining.

Their dedicated mining GPUs are terrible from an efficiency standpoint.

The 90HX only does 86 MH/s @ 320 watts.

My 3080's do 100 MH/s @ 230 watts and my 3090 does 122 MH/s @ 295 watts.

The 50HX is pretty bad too at 45 MH/s @ 250 watts.  My 3+ year old 1080Ti's do about 45 MH/s as well @ 180 watts.

My 5700 XT's do 57 MH/s @ 110 watts or so.

I wouldn't touch those "mining cards" with a 10 foot pole....

I expect legal and technical problems.

On a technical level how do they detect a mining application? If they use code signatures like AV
the code can be modified to change the signature. There is also a possibility of false positives.
Gamers would not like it if their favorite game was slowed down.

Also where is the knowledge of what to look for. If it's in HW or BIOS it can't be easilly updated
for new signatures (unlike AV updates). If it's in the driver it may be hackable or users would just shun
new driver updates.

On the legal side, they are targetting a specific application which happens to be legal. It's not
malware that the user wants to block. The vendor is intentionally blocking legal software the
user wants. I think there is a case for unfair business practices and clear damages incurred by
SW devepoppers and users. (IANAL)

Gamers are their long term market and miners come and go. NVIDIA is really just doing this to show that they care about their core gamer crowd because right now gamers are seriously angry about all the jacked up prices due to mining.

Yup, as shown in the past, mining is only a temporary spike. They need to take care of the core market.

On Twitter, Bryan Del Rizzo (Director of global PR for GeForce) confirmed that the anti-crypto technology works as a secure handshake between the driver, the GPU silicon, and BIOS. The latter confirms that this is indeed a BIOS implementation and explains how RTX 3060 in a very early test was already seeing the limited performance. The technology simply does not need a driver to work.

What is particularly interesting here is that according to the tweets, NVIDIA would relaunch its existing SKUs under a new Device ID. This means that future RTX3090/3080/3070/3060Ti models would carry a different ID and feature the anti-crypto algorithm. It is unclear when and if NVIDIA will even announce this change

Unfortunatelly Nvidia is (once again) trying to put out the fire with quick and bad solution. They were unprepared for the third time in the row with the current crypto hype and still they do not have a strategy, a proper solution to the issue. Now they are trying to sell old hardware to miners which is "specialized for mining" and at the same time disabling home users by bricking future gaming gpus which is essentially a kick in the ass for the much needed decentralized mining. This is very very bad solution and will not solve the issues addressed. Fist of all - if profitability will be good then miners will buy ANYTHING that is capable of mining (gaming/specialized) and will try to override the driver/bios obstacles that Nvidia puts in new products. And secondly - miner will ALWAYS buy best price/performance product and not some fancy-named "specialized" products.

If they back date on any older model

RTX3090/3080/3070/3060Ti

they will be sued.

Evga has a queue for all models

in the

3090
3080
3070
3060ti

If you went on the queue prior to the 3060 cripple announcement you are entitled to a working

3060ti
3070
3080
3090

thousands of people are on the lists I am on lists for 23 cards all before the crippling 3060

So I listed for mining cards I would be entitled to sue on each and every crippled one then send to me.

They would not be allowed to back date.

So the solution will fuck evga big time if it is applied to any and all of the older 3000 cards.


Think of it this way you sign on a waiting list for a 3090 and for evga cripples it for gaming after you signed up for it.

you are entitled to damages.  So while they may cripple the 3060 I do not think they will quickly cripple the older 3000 series card.

btw if do then they hand over a huge edge to AMD cards.

dont worry guys keep calm continue mining, even with 50% less hashrate 25mhs people will still keep mining on them :) and im sure many gamers also mining right now

Since they announced this specifically with the 3060's (non-ti models) they will be forced to make this announcement for ALL 3xxx based gpu's going forward until then I am a buyer!

I've been waiting on quite a few 3090's that have also now been pushed back to 5/7.....

I wouldn't assume that. They haven't been entirely honest about what they're doing.

One irony in all this is that large farms have the resources to develop a hack, while home miners
are completely shut out from using their home PCs (many are gaming rigs) to mine during off hours.

I watched a video by some Russian guy named Crypto Leo.  He had a Zotac 3060 and was given credit in a article by videocardz.com as confirming that on ETH it did indeed cut the hash rate in half.

What the article didn't go on to say was that in a follow up video he tested the 5 top money algo's out right now and the card actually did close to or better than a 3060  TI in 3 of them.  Octopus, Cortex and Cuckatoo31.  All of which give this card a great ROI at under $400.

Will the bull market last long enough for Nvidia to need to try to roll this out to new skus like the 3080TI or to kill old sku's as rumored and add it anti ETH technology to it's full ampere line?  Maybe

In the short term is this gonna drive up demand for cards that aren't hampered you bet.  Will the 3000's series cards already out hold their value better now?  I think so.

Sadly gamers or small miners can't line up and score a card at their local Best Buy due to "covid".  They now have to compete on a national level unless they have a Microcenter close by or a good local parts store that has been getting an allocation of cards.  I have neither.

Now gamers who could use the card in off hours to pay off a portion of it or potentially build wealth in the digital world on what will likely be a widely used card can't.  And the big guys win again.

Be nice if AMD would put out a card with good gaming and mining capability again.

You forgot that you can pay scalpers on Ebay a $1000 premium for a 3080 or 3090.  They are flying like pancakes at these prices.

Exactly, it only halves Ethhash algo.  There are a few Algos that are close to Eth profitability wise that you can mine and ROI pretty quickly and then switch later if there is ever a fix found for Ethhash.

well this is great news lets keep the 3060's off eth and mining the other coins.

then the eth hash rates will grow more slowly.

I didn't forget this.  If I could sit at Bestbuy overnight and get a card I could bypass the additional money asked by resellers who have stock available now.  If I was a gamer looking for one card I would be happy I got one at MSRP.

I can buy a bot or pay a friend to code one so I can sell some "hotcakes" and keep ones I like for my farm.  Doesn't make sense for someone looking for a single card....

What a clusterfuck. Nvidia should have just made it so that multiple low cost consumer level cards couldn't be addressed on a single motherboard (which isn't even needed by the consumer market anymore anyway since SLI is dead) while leaving the function operational on flagship cards and pro level cards. That would have forced anyone wanting to operate large mining operations to upgrade to their far costlier pro level equipment, thereby significantly cutting down on miners taking "gamer" cards, thus appeasing their fanbase, while also increasing their bottom line by selling more higher margin parts, which would make their shareholders happy.

kinda a joke software/driver limiter which land on world of programmer, but atleast there is room to buy when miner worried about it, scalper faster on buying hardware

this will be same story like before, i still buy it at first release, for gaming purpose and mining testing

Would it be possible to edit 3060 BIOS or flash 3060ti BIOS on it. I believe the problem is in BIOS because one dude used current drivers and the card still downclocked

Possible? Yes likely no... We still do not have an ethlargement pill for 20 series cards.

How does the driver detect ETHASH is running on the card? After detection of ETHASH, the driver must be sending a preset signal to the card and the bios loads a low perf setting.

I wonder if the Limiter will be crippling the GPU's performance or if you might be able to mine another coin while mining Eth at a reduced hashrate.

Interesting thought but I doubt it. The scheduler could be gimped to force the Eth process to suspend even
if no other process is waiting.

But I'm assuming the GPU is gimped by lowering the clock, disabling HW optimizations like cache or things like that.
It might even affect an attached monitor.

A deep dive is required to reverse engineer it.

It's only a matter of time, I know there are some bad ass coders out there, they will find ways around this RTX3060 issue and NVIDIA will be put to shame but I have RTX 3060ti and 3070, I probably won't be needing the RTX 3060 anyways

so this is hacked already ?

no need to hack it at all.  It earns 3.80 a day mining octopus.  It burns 3 kwatts to earn that.  So lets say your power cost is 80 cents  at 27 cents a kwatt.  the card will make 3 bucks a day.

Roi in 110 days.  this means sold  out and scalped on ebay for about 750-950 usd.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-RTX-3060-XC-GAMING-12GB-GDDR6-Dual-Fan-Metal-Bac/164727655954?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/EVGA-GeForce-RTX-3060-XC-GAMING-12G-P5-3657-KR-12GB-GDDR6-Metal-Backplate/233912168556?

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-crypto-mining-processor-90hx-card-is-based-on-ampere-ga102-100-gpu

It would have been so much simpler, and a lot less aggravating to all, just to keep selling
the RTX-2000 until RTX-3000 supply ramped up.

One ironic twist is CMPs based on Turing may be more available than RTX-3000s.
That will piss off gamers even more, with no option to buy Turing.

Both EVGA 3060 Ti XC and 3060 XC hashrates at the exact same settings in HIVEOS:

Eth:
3060 Ti: 58 MH
3060: 24 MH

Octopus:
3060 Ti: Didn't test
3060: 44 MH

https://imgur.com/xcK3HCI

No need to rush to buy new graphics cards. I always try to wait for the official tests.
On laptops, the hash rate is not blocked. I think miners will soon find a way to break Nvidia's limitations.
3060 Ti: 48 MH on Octopus algorithm
but 3060 more profit could have been received on Ethereum mining

I guess I'll have to buy two then.

Nvidia said it would cut eth hashrate in half, so it means 3060 full eth hashrate is 48 ~ 50, 3060ti on octopus is around 48 ~ 50.

You don't need to flash the bios, you need a tool like the Pill. I am pretty sure someone will come up with a solution

Why rush to find solutions if other algorithms work without reducing the hash rate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvkM1_eXoAA
5:23
https://i.ibb.co/J53gX8Z/image.jpg (https://ibb.co/pJh5CNq)
And I think Nvidia foresaw that users will be flashing the BIOS of these video cards and came up with additional protection

what settings did u used?

also what about ETC hashrate?

at this current market rtx 3060 sell at 700$ in my country but the laptop one sell at 1200$ and you got full speed on laptop, considerable cheap for laptop cost only 1200$ you got latest core i5,512nvme,16gigs ddr4,and 144lcd and lower power consumption on mining but bad for long run

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-to-feature-cryptocurrency-mining-limiter

3080 ti might have Eth mining limiter.  Not surprising, I guess every new variant will have it.

This is a mistake they are doing, right now yeah they will sell every gpu, after this market crashes they will pray they have not done this and pray miners starts buying their gpus again ehhe

Instead of just ramping production they rather shoot themselves in the foot.
Smart strategy.

At the end of the day Nvidia should ONLY care about the price gauging going on and nothing else.

Either that or make a viable mining card that competes Mh vs Mh to regular gpus. None of this gimped CMP crap that will ultimately cost more to purchase and use more power.  This is like MPG all over again.  This new shinny car does 30mpg, on a 16gallon tank and produces 300hp.  Cool, we currently get 45mpg on a 9 gallon tank producing 450hp so what benefit do we get switching? Nothing?  Ok, you can keep the car and I'll keep doing what I'm doing.

Well, they could have just made an RTX3060Ti/3080 based mining GPU's with ~62/100 MH/s and ~120/225W power consumption and with prices around 500/850 USD without video outputs and that would have solved everything, for miners and for gamers.
But no, nVidia wants to get rid of it's own trash (old turing and defective ampere chips) and get more money, that's why they are doing this.

Here it is: https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/cryptominers-have-already-cracked-nvidias-rtx-3060-hash-rate-limiter
 ;D

Fake..  https://twitter.com/I_Leak_VN/status/1369632994407804941

 :'(

https://twitter.com/OhGodAGirl/status/1371226081869451264?s=19

Limiter removed might be real this time

yes, one card connected to monitor under Windows

Nice thanks for the info.  I just tested the driver on mine and I'm getting 49mhs for the last 30 minutes now.

Im getting 49.80 MH/s with +1400 memory and 80% power limit.

Pretty insane for a card thats supposedly $329.

Some folks are saying it only works on one card, or only works on cards connected directly via X 16 and also requires a monitor plugged in.

Some are saying Zotac cards dont work at full speed.

All I know is ive got an EVGA card with a dummy HMDI plug (for plex server) and it works great. Very happy with the additional income over Octopus.

fuck nvidia in the you know what.  so my octopus with become eth once I figure it out.

maybe smos will put it in an update.

Can you please post a screenshot of the exact driver settings in windows? Tried myself, but limiting still intact (Driver 470.05, Windows 10 64bit, Display connected through hdmi)

Looks like there is a specific driver that when used with trex miner bypasses the Nvidia eth nerf on the 3060.  This time supposedly they confirmed it was ETH and not Octopus.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-cryptocurrency-mining-hash-rate-limit-bypassed-hacked-rtx-3060-ethereum/

Shows it was up for a few hours in the bottom of the article.

You dont need trex miner. It works with Excavator on Nicehash as well at least.

That's the same driver I am using. 470.05 but as mentioned above the card has to be the primary video card and have a monitor attached to it.  I had a 2nd card in the same system and that card was running at 24 mhs.  I removed that card and I am going to put that card into it's own system now as the primary.

https://i.imgur.com/QZ4IHTQ.png

As far as I know there is no linux version of this driver.

This one might work https://forums.developer.nvidia.com/t/linux-solaris-and-freebsd-driver-460-56-long-lived-branch-release/169452

Unfortunately not working here. H110 Pro BTC++ board, disabled onboard GPU, 3060 as the only GPU in the system (monitor attached) - Hash rate drops immediately after start.

I'm using MSI cards.  I'm not sure if that makes a difference.  Also I heard that the card has to be attached directly to the motherboard.  No riser.

Im making a CFX pool ,hopefully I can get users like you on our team.

Looks like the driver has been taken down?  Unless i am not signed in right.

Should be uploaded here: https://mega.nz/file/rE1E0JCS#-xL0bc6t2UiuiZ0Vtc-I9hcqGhV0UIr0B6FKJcdy_kE

I did not upload this but it works for me, got it from another thread somewhere else.

This may be the only time we get a driver that will work for the 3060 that does this, its clearly communicating to the cards VBIOS and turning off the limiter.

Even if it only works for directly attached cards (i.e. PCIe X16) its still a win.

Thanks alot! The point was to put it directly in the motherboard. That worked for me (Gigabyte card).

Looks like the bios identifies if the card is in a PCI 1x or PCI 16x slot - somehow this makes a difference.

Glad to hear you got it working.

do you mean u can dualmine (two instances) with it?
like phoenix for eth and other miner for octopus? i know eth dont use core, but octopus use memory a lot, right?

Driver: https://mega.nz/file/4NRSiL6A#0jcBLJwhVfNhFrc9RgZeIa3xS5XGOl23ie6Ue439LBQ

Info from someone on discord:

Summary so far on 3060:
-Use the 470.05 Dev Nvidia driver
-Need to stick the 3060 into motherboard directly (Does not work with riser)
-Must have at least pcie 3.0 enabled in bios, or set to auto
-HDMI/Display port of the graphics card needs to be either connected to a monitor or dummy plug
-2nd 3060 on the same mb will work as long as it is plugged into the x16 slot running x8 lanes or above with HDMI/Display port filled (not confirmed with 3 cards)
-Some have confirmed working cards after fresh windows install, then installing the 470.05 dev driver
-Works on ASUS STRIX/TUF/DUAL 3060, Palit 3060, EVGA black 3060, EVGA 3060 XC GAMING(12G-P5-3657-KR), Galax 3060, Gigabyte 3060 Vision OC, MSI Ventus 2x, MSI Gaming X, Zotac 3060 twin edge
-Does not work on Inno3D that we know of

EDIT2: It seems to have been tested on pci-X 4x slots and did not work. Only 8x and 16x work, with a dummy cable and no risers.

EDIT3: Current record for maximum number of 3060 on 1 mobo is 2 cards, running on x16 and x8 full slots.

EDIT4: 8x / 8x also seems to work.

Working on Gigabyte Eagle 3060 on 16x Pci-E slot. Getting a few incorrect shares though, about 10%, don't know if there's anything I can do to fix this. Getting 49 mh/s. Thanks everyone.

My wife has a 3060 that was just installed in her personal desktop 2 days ago. I've tested with the developmental driver and it's been running fine at stock settings for almost 30 minutes so far.

I find it pretty hilarious that a driver on their site was a way to hack the unhackable.  Didnt even need to change the Bios.

Go down with Mem Clock a bit.

I can say that, with my 2009 American Mega motherboard with a 2010 bios, it does not work. only has 1 slot and the card is in the motherboard.

Actually surprised anything still works on that machine


Fresh windows, EVGA Geforce RTX 3060

seems like there is some kind of functionality which check if monitor is connected (thats why dummy hdmi plug works) and if it is connected to motherboard. just must 2 cents, also there could be more in drivers as well.

Lower mem clock, not all 3060 can do 49 MH/s due to this. But most should be capable of 48.

Sounds to me like the person(s) who worked on the driver or made it available wanted to make sure it could not be used in a mining farm or in a capacity such that it would support Rigs with 6 + 3060's on risers. It very clearly seems like they went through a lot to make sure there were plenty of roadblocks.

There are many checks:

1. monitor
2. PCIe lanes
3. whatever was accidentally left out of the beta driver
4. ...

Nvidia provided a good hand to its gammers and production users by doing this step due to the high bitcoin prices everyone was going to mine it. This made a huge shortage of graphic cards, especially in Asia. This is a good step to make the market flow stable.
But it is Bad news for the Minners because Nividia may be applie this in  others cards as well.

With some work the driver can be cracked.

We need a pill :D

I`m going to run my Gigabyte OC in the motherboard.
C U soon

yep fuck nvidia..i hope you from nvidia can found this post in the internet...fuck you

it is a computer bought and paid for.

https://developer.nvidia.com/cuda/wsl/download

"Driver are currently not available - please check back again, thank you."
NVIDIA removes developer driver version 470.05 from its website


https://www.asus.com/ru/Motherboards-Components/Motherboards/All-series/WS-X299-SAGE/techspec/

7 x PCIe 3.0/2.0 x16 (single x16 or dual x16/x16 or triple x16/x16/x16 or quad x16/x16/x16/x16 or seven x16/x8/x8/x8/x8/x8/x8)

I'm not ready to buy such mobo yet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGytzsWFJvo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGytzsWFJvo)

There is a description, and link for the driver, BUT please verify it before install.

Running 1 ASUS STRIX card at 42 mh/s into the mbo with that driver for 24 hours without problems!
Fresh Windows and then 470.05 driver.

Windows 10 20h2 v2, asus z97 and gigabyte h97, Msi Ventus 2x and Msi Ventus 3x working fine.

Does anyone know if you have to keep the monitor connected to the 3060 turned on or something? Running on ethermine my reported hashrate is 20 mh/s higher than the current hashrate.

I have my monitor off and it is still hashing at full speed.

3 3060s seem to work OK too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rjwLdqjqLs

Any news, that linux can run 3060 on ETH at full speed ?

well if they can bypass the block this card should be awesome on msrp price compared rx 6700 479$ and only 338gbps bandwith with max clock wont even passing the predecessor,

Where I live 3060 12gb are being sold for 1000 usd, 3 x more than msrp, insane, whoever are buying them will regret.

There are two types of buyers these days.

1. Wanna-be-rich ones as in every bull run.

2. Old miners replacing older GPUs with newer... after selling the old ones.

I did buy a few considerably more expensive GPUs lately ... after selling the 10xx and 20xx series for about the same price

I just got new prices today where I live, plenty to buy, 3090 for 3999 usd, 3080 for 2200 usd, 3070 for 1450 usd, 3060ti for 1250 usd and 3060 for 1000 usd. I guess only idiots will buy them because no sane people will buy them.

Where did you see these prices?
They are only available on the websites of official video card manufacturers, but at such prices it is impossible to buy anything.
The 3060 costs $ 1000-1200 in stores, the rx 6700 costs $ 1300-1600. These are the real prices for today. There may be cheaper offers without a guarantee, but that's another point.

Microcenter in my town has 3060s for $500, I just picked up one and had a freind buy another for me, they are checking IDs to limit it to one a month, lol.  It will be nice to mine something other then eth, I despise eth devs.

The two 3060s will replace four 1070s that i will sell for more then i paid for the 3060s, lol.

yeah 6700 are being sold for 1300 usd where I live too, insane and 2 months ago a 3060ti were being sold for 600 usd, today 1300 usd.

nvm

Has anybody managed to remove the limiter while using a x16 to x16 riser? My stupid fucking motherboard has the 2 pci3 slots too close to each other and my 2 3060s won't fit at the same time.

Works for me, at least with one card.

Works on x1 risers if you plug in a hdmi dummy plug. Nvidia 470 beta drivers can handle 6++ 3060 cards in the rig mining fullspeed without any problems (with 6 hdmi dummy plugs installed).
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Source? Everything I've seen is 16x extension ribbon risers and specific server mobos.

https://www.techpowerup.com/280017/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-anti-mining-feature-bypassed-by-hdmi-dummy-plug

This doesnt show anyone using 1x risers they are either plugged into 8x or 16x pcie slots or using ribbion cables because the GPU's wont fit directly on the mobo.

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3060-successfully-used-in-7-way-mining-rig
This is the most recent one where people are confused, but you can see the 16x ribbon cables being used and its only a few server mobos/CPU's that can support 6-7 pcie8x lanes.

An x8 PCIe connection or better seems to be a requirement.

THW has declared the block dead based on the leaked driver, HDMI dummy plug & x8+ workarounds.
IMO that's not dead.

I am thinking of buying this GPU.

From what I read, if the GPU is connected directly to the motherboard, the PCI x16 plug, and has a monitor connected, mining runs smoothly. That's it?
Or is it necessary to also use such a developer driver?

The 470.05 beta driver is required. I have a 3060 and use it for octopus for the time being, which is not throttled regardless of driver version.

Where can I get this Beta driver?

You can download it from here: https://mega.nz/file/rE1E0JCS#-xL0bc6t2UiuiZ0Vtc-I9hcqGhV0UIr0B6FKJcdy_kE

You need to have monitor plugged in (or dummy plug), and at least X8 PCI-e speed. I'm running 3x 3060 in X99 mobo, but its also possible to run even 7 with x16 risers and appropriate mainboard.

I dont think they will find solution for this in coming future:) so far it was only coincidence ppl are able to mine with 1-3 cards(depend on mobo) but no real wa/crack has been found yet.

Thanks. This will not be a problem, because it will also be the main GPU of my PC.
Of course, this, in some moments, will bring lower profitability. It will be a management issue.

Not necessary a monitor, the hdmi cable itself is enough. You can remove the monitor. Or use a hdmi dummy.

But, even using the main GPU, is it necessary to use the Beta driver?

Yes,
Is necessary to use the Beta driver 470.05 but other condition must be met:

- PCIe connections 16x 3.0 or higher (16x risers can be used)
I think the GPU bios check if the connection is 16x 3.0 or higher and if there is a monitor connected.
It would be good if someone figured out how to get around these restrictions ...

OK! Thanks.
I only have, first install the driver before the Windows do it alone... ::)

Asus Workstation series motherboard WS Z390 PRO for socket 1151 seems to have different PLX chip, so it should support 4 GPU in x8.
Did anyone try this MB?

https://www.asus.com/Commercial-Servers-Workstations/WS-Z390-PRO/
https://www.techpowerup.com/248481/asus-intros-ws-z390-pro-motherboard-with-dual-x16-pcie-bridge-chip

Is there a known workaround for NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 Ti LHR?
Does the beta 470.05 driver work?

Not. But, it seems NBMiner manages to overcome part of the limitations caused by the LHR:
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nbminer-update-restores-70-of-nvidia-lhr-mining-performance.html

I don't know if it's really like that, because I had no way to test it.