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Canelo Alvarez-Billy Joe Saunders Fight Officially Announced, May 8 At Site TBD (https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-billy-joe-saunders-fight-officially-announced-8-site-tbd--155792)

https://i.imgur.com/qFdt1xG.jpg


OK, this is the fight that we all have been waiting for Canelo, another legit challenger in Billy Joe Saunders. BJS is solid in all area, well rounded, technically sound and I think he will give Canelo one hell of a fight here, more competitive obviously against Avni Yildirim. Canelo himself admitted that Saunders will be a difficult fight for him.

But I will still give the edge to Canelo here, probably by decision.

Probably better than the last fight of Canelo.

Billy Joe Saunders is undefeated as his record stats stated, not so familiar with this fighter but he has in impressive record though I'm not so convince with his KO rate which is only 14 of his 30 fights.

stats : https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/482499

and the betting odds is also available _ https://www.oddschecker.com/boxing/saul-alvarez-v-billy-joe-saunders/winner

Saunders @4
Canelo @1.17

Saunders didn't look good at this last fight against Murray so that's something that we have to look at. And Canelo is the more active guy here and we have seen how Canelo developed into a monster. Although Saunders is no push over, he is the WBO champion and the taller guy, and has the tools to somewhat push Canelo out of his comfortable position, I think Canelo can readjust and break down Saunders in the latter rounds of the fight.

Right now, the odds of course is still in favor of Canelo.
But it seems Saunders will put a good fight if he will prepare on this fight.
Maybe, this will be better than Canelo vs Yildirim to watch out for.
It is good that Canelo got another fight as soon as he finished the last one.
Now that Saunders saw his last performance, he should know what to prepare for.

Knock Out rate is not a basis for me. Aside from 14 KO, most of his fights are Unanimous Decision which means he always got the best points on most rounds. But even with that, Canelo has the upper hand in this fight.

If the odds provider gives Saunders an @4 odds despite a good and clean record, then this only shows that Canelo has all the edges of why he won't be lost on that match.

Both of these are great fighter, they have the best skills with then and a good record under their name, but for me Canelo will have a good shot on this one considering his strength and speed in the boxing ring. This might not be an easy fight for Canelo, but at the end of the match he’ll still be consider as a winner.

See the comparison of both players.

Billy Joe Saunders
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/482499

Saul Alvarez
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/348759

It seems like Saul Alvarez here is more matured than his opponent. I guess, the high odds here is Alvarez since he is a very aggressive fighter.

Can OP add the poll of which the best boxer fighter choice here in our community? It's more fun to discuss though.

I am not too convinced that Billy Joe will be able to put up much of a fight against Canelo. Super middleweight is not his best weight class and it has been three years since his career best win against David Lemieux. After that fight he tested positive for PEDs when he was supposed to fight Andrade. Recently he's just been fighting against inferior competition hoping that the Canelo fight would drop in his lap. I think he has lost his hunger and will just use this fight as an opportunity to cash out. This would have probably been a better fight a few years ago at 160 lbs.

But I believed that he will be motivated to give a shot at Canelo, he is still in his prime and he could give Canelo a bad stylistic match up, so he could pose some problems whether inside or outside. So we would take this fight as some kind of measuring stick against Canelo again.

Saunders for me its not very technical though as others would have claim, he is very awkward that could throw Canelo rhythm.

It may well be a more defining fight than all his previous fights including his two fights against Golovkin, Saunders moves very natural in the ring and he has good ring savvy, but Canelo's conditioning and power will decide the match, if he engaged and he has good reaction to Canelo's attack, then he has a good chance, this is a fight that will fave another step for Canelo's greatness, although he is already the number pound for pound.

Nice match and this will be exciting to watch but considering Canelo's skills, Billy Joe needs to end this fight as soon as possible because he can't box with him till the end of the round in the ring. We already know how strong Canelo the longer he stayed in the ring and whoever his opponent is, they need to give him lots of action in the earliest round or they will become a punching bag through the last rounds.

At least this is a lot better than Alvarez's previous one with Yildirim. My god, that Yildirim fight was a mismatch right from the get-go. It made a lot wonder why it was made in the first place. Canelo had an easier target practice with Yildirim than a punching bag; a punching bag sways back and forth at least.

But I think this one with Saunders is still a Canelo fight. Saunders is obviously not as powerful as Canelo. I just hope he could absorb Canelo's solid punches for 12 rounds while making one point after another as this seems to be his only chance of winning. But that is very slim.

This will be more exciting to watch. Can Canelo win via KO on this one too? This is also good for Canelo as he is still fresh from the ring, that means, it is not difficult for him to have rigid training again.

This fight got me hyped to be honest. We're going to be able to see who the best is. I expect Billy to really turn it up versus Canelo. In my view, Billy is at his peak as a fighter from 160-168 after Canelo. Him and fury are somewhat the same, in the sense that they fight depending on the stature of their opponents.

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Exactly, the Yildirim fight is a mismatch at any angle. Yildirim didn't even land one punch against Canelo.

This will be better, Saunders is a champion himself, still at his prime at 31 years old. So we should expect a clash of champion and do hope that Saunders will be a good underdog and not just another punching bag for Alvarez him. Winning a round against Canelo will be good enough, but he has a slim chance to win.

This will be a serious bout because Saunders is undefeated although he is a little rusty because he hasn't fight for awhile and with some titles on the line, I think that Saunders will be fighting in his best condition against Alvarez who has defeated Yildirim. Definitely experience will be at play here but in my opinion, the spectacle will depend on how good Saunders is and how determined he is to win that belt. I would place my bet on Alvarez because he is definitely the favorite of this bout but if the Saunders' odds are a little bit attractive, I might go for it.

More competitive indeed but i'm with you here, i think Canelo would overcome this hurdle and they are confident that Team Canelo would unify all the belt in this division as they are already looking forward for a fight against Caleb Plant this September  ;D.

Does this division lack the competitive fighters or it is just Canelo who have superior skills above the rest?

Canelo Alvarez and Billy Joe Saunders will be one hell of a fight but i cannot bet against Canelo Alvarez because of the form he is in. His body shots against Yildirim were nasty and he could not go beyond the third round as he had enough and Canelo Alvarez never got punched in the fight and with the way he is fighting it is going to be one of the best fights this year.

No doubt about that, however, fans would be more happier if he can fight Triple G this year, it's going to be the biggest fight this year if he will allow that. I guess there's no problem with the promoter, it's just up to him if he will open an opportunity to Triple G to fight him.

Based on the betting odds, you can tell it's another easy win by Canelo.

I would say that Canelo is far more superior that the rest of the fighters in this division. After Callum Smith (which he defeated already), Caleb Plant, and Billy Joe Saunders are the only two name fighters in this division. Unlike before when they have their own version the Super Six World Boxing Classic years ago, it was pretty stack up division with Andre Ward (eventual winner and champion), Carl Froch, Arthur Abraham, Mikkel Kessler, Glen Johnson,  Jermain Taylor, Andre Dirrell, Allan Green. I think this bunch of super middleweights are the most stack up fighters we have seen in this division in recent years.

I know it's hard to bet against Canelo right now but Saunders ain't no left over so I want to bet on him in this fight and take that odds.


Saunders  is undefeated so just like Callum Smith, this fight could go in 12 rounds, and maybe I should just add some bet on the other side like Canelo winning by decision, that if the odds is 2+.

Interesting, after that fight against Yildirim which ain't give anything for the fans, seems that he's just warming up and his opponents just continue recieving his punches,.

But with Saunders, maybe it will be a different story, though Alvarez still expected to win as based from the betting odds Saunders is the underdog.

https://i.imgur.com/VqLBWTK.jpg?1

Actually we haven't seen the best of Canelo yet, because all of his previous opponents are a mismatch, it's like just a sparring session for him. Callum Smith was touted to be a big test, but it wasn't even close as Smith was just there to survived. So we do hope that Saunders will at least give himself a chance and show that he can stand toe to toe against Canelo, otherwise will be just the same all over again. Fighters just folding against Canelo's body punches.

Saunders is not a knockout artist but this might not be just one of the mismatched fights after all he has no loss yet. he has an impressive record but his fights really aren't that impressive, he was even knock the last he did with Martin Murray that ended with UD. it's the kind of entertainment that the fighters enjoy and not the ones watching. it will still be disappointing if Saunders acts like Yildirim.

If same thing happened just like the previous fight of Canelo for sure fans disappointment will voice out. but if records matter between this two fighter

Saunders   have an impressive 30-0 W-L records,  While ,  Alvarez Total fights :58,  Wins :55,  Wins by KO :37, Loss :1, Draws :2
Experienced wise, Canelo have a lots of it and his killing instinct is really far superior than Saunders.

Let see if this two fighters will give some entertainment, a real fight that both fighters are throwing solid punches and determined to K.O one another.

I am looking forward to that fight. The last bout of canelo vs yildirim was pretty underwhelming because canelo was totally dominating and it seemed that yildirim didn't have a chance at all and it was just a matter of time until yildirim was beaten.
May 8 is not that far away so i am a little concerend that there are only a little bit more than 2 months between the two fights for canelo. The last one wasn't that exhausting for him though so it should work out.

Yup, the only logical bet here is how Canelo would win this one as he is 99 percent sure of winning.

ATM, no odds for Canelo via Decision and Canelo via KO but for sure bookies will give that kind of market.

Some of us here wants to see Canelo fight GGG but I think it's kinda late for the latter as father time has already caught him and surely he will lose in the trilogy as Canelo is at the peak of his career now while GGG is on the twilight.

Yes, flawless fighter which seems to have no weaknesses so far. He has a good chin and nobody can crack it, not even triple GGG in their two fights. In paper, it looks like Saunders has a chance to beat Canelo, but I highly doubt it as well. It could be more competitive, but the end result will be the same.

Canelo has fought fighters like this in the past, like Fielding and the latest Callum Smith. For sure, Canelo can maintain or even elevated his condition and beat Saunders by a majority decision.

Based on the posts in topic, no one again believes that someone can beat Canelo. Looks like Canelo should move to another division or even skip one to find proper contenders. Or stay in his middleweight +/- 3kg division and beat everyone for second time. Bored with Canelo, gonna cheer for Saunders this time :D

Ahh the coincidence of this fight happening on my birthday! This will definitely be a gift for me to watch another showcase of Canelo's raw skill, power, and evasive reflexes in his fight.

As per the records of Billy Joe Saunders, he is undefeated (30-0-14) but his KO rate is relatively not that impressive. This would be more difficult compared to the recent fight of Canelo but I will still be rooting for him in this fight.


Haha I understand where you are coming from but I do think that the fights of Canelo are interesting enough. The skill and the accuracy of his punches are just impeccable to watch.

Hell yeah, no Saunders fan here but it's better if there's a poll so those who doesn't like to reply in this by posting can reply by voting.
Canelo looks so unbeatable, so it's hard to bet against him at this moment, though Saunders is undefeated but Canelo should be in a way higher level.

I'm betting on Canelo here also.

Canelo's last fight, I betted on win by decision, and I lost because it was TKO with Yildirim.
Now, will be betting again on him, but win by KO this time, even at low odds.
Since the fight is just right after the other, he can easily go back to training.
If Canelo will win again, I believe he will get another fight but hopefully to another division.

Because the competition for Canelo here is not there, even the champion in this division cannot match Canelo. That's why bookies and fans here see this fight as still Canelo even though that Saunders is a real test for him.

No one can touch Canelo at this point, maybe he can go as high as 175 lbs again or go down to 160 lbs and have a trilogy with triple GGG. But to clean up this division, after this he should set his eyes on Caleb Plant, unify all the belts in the 168 lbs.

Lol, there is nothing we can do about it as Canelo is a gifted boxer and does not take anyone for granted, this is one aspect where he excels above the rest.

Team Canelo has a plan of unifying all the belts in this weight division if they came out victorious this May and I think that is very achievable at this point of his career.

https://i.imgur.com/MZA59sm.jpg
ctto

How many divisions has he cleaned up, 4 or 5? I think only father time could beat this guy.

Don't know he fought cotto, that guy is my Idol but he is not on his prime anymore, I think the fight happened after Cotto was defeated by Manny. Anyway, I think Canelo's win streak will continue, he keeps knocking the door to knock the one inside that door, hilarious.

Being straightforward and a fan of Canelo, I will surely place my bet on him even if Saunders is also a good fighter.

I really believed on Canelo's head movement, skills and strategy inside the ring so no doubt that he will win this matchup.

But I think that the odds will be my problem here, I know that many people will also vote for Canelo but I don't want to change my mind.

Canelo is only 30, he wont retire soon. Damn, he might even beat all fighter in his division 3 times in his career :D Believe me, in few years, it will be allowed to put 2 fighters to fight simultaneously against Canelo in the ring.

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We never know until they fight. Canelo has been so impressive but GGG would probably still give him a hard time in the ring, like what he did in the last two fights, at least if they will fight and Canelo still won, people will stop talking inserting GGG once we talk about a Canelo fight.

The profit when you bet for Canelo is small but if you are a high roller, 17% of your money is already a good return for 1 fight. That is, if Canelo is a sure winner. The odds may still change a lil bit once the fight is near to its fight date. But I think this one, is worth to watch as both fighters have good records.

For small time bettors like us, sure, we wanted to put our money wherein there is a good odds. But with the way Canelo is destroying his opponents as of late, it's hard to go against him. That's why others are taking a risk betting against him, and unfortunately, their efforts is futile.

So it's either you just watch the fight, or put a big money on Canelo to at least get a good returns.

Unless it is Golovkin against Canelo I can put up money against Canelo, only Golovkin can sustain and engage Canelo in a slugfest, all the boxers have just and will just become a stepping stone of Canelo to greatness, even Saunders cannot keep up with Canelo, sure Saunders is a good fighter, but Canelo just keep on getting better, after the Mayweather lose, he has become a very exceptionally great fighter.

If BJS did not Knockout Canelo? then he might be in trouble as we knew the opponent is really good in point system and His stamina , meaning that once the fight ends up to the last round then Saunders will be in trouble.

So better to know the opponent of face the bad consequences .

Saunders trainers has speak up:


https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-trainer-confident-perfect-game-plan-derail-canelo--155903

So I don't know what will be the perfect game plan to beat a fighter like Canelo's caliber at 168 lbs. With no known weaknesses at his armor, it's going to be very hard for Saunders to overcome Canelo, probably a lucky punch can Canelo didn't see coming.

What could be that perfect plan, I thought Callum Smith has a perfect plan, coming forward and giving out a lot of jabs but unfortunately, it didn't work, Canelo Alvarez has a better perfect game plan, even if you have a good plan if you are not strong and quick and with good skill in the ring, it will not work. 
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Canelo in short is the better fighter, but I believe Callum Smith did his best, to be able to last in 12 rounds is already a big success as most boxers Canelo face would not last 12 rounds, Calum Smith will improve and let's hope we will see him one day to fight again Canelo, who knows right?

If you taste the first punch and you can't handle, then your Plan A is voided already. That's what happen to Callum Smith, they say he has the potential to beat beat Canelo, big, and power on both hands. But we have seen that once he tasted Canelo body punch, he just simply can't executed his game plan because he keeps on opening up against the short but big punch coming from Canelo. So yes, it's a question on how you gonna bet a fighter like Canelo as he haven't seen any blue print to beat him.

It was Mike Tyson who says that everybody has a plan until they get hit in the face, they can have the best plan in the world, but if their boxer cannot take a punch then they better bid goodbye to that plan, the best plan is to have an iron chin and a big punch, I'm excited on the match after Saunders maybe the Charlo brothers will come next.

If a fighter is hit and he think he can't take the hit anymore, he will change his plan, instead of winning he will change it to surviving. I've seen a lot of fights in the past already that a cocky boxer trying to intimidate the champion but when he taste the punch, he change his style and just try to survive the 12 rounds.

Yes, that quote from Mike Tyson is brilliant, you have a plan, you lay it down with your trainer, you practice it to perfection, but once you gets hit, you totally forget about it and then go toe to toe, hehehehe, that's macho mentality. I don't think that Saunders have an iron chin, he has been down and been rock throughout his career. Again, for me Charlo brothers are too small for 168 lbs.

This is very true, and I saw those things happened before when Pacquiao was still fighting in his prime.
His opponents were aggressive before the fight, but afterwards, they lay low and admitted his power inside the ring.
But if nothing else, this Alvarez vs Saunders fight is interesting to see, hopefully, not a boring one.
And the odds are out already in betbtc. Clearly, Alvarez is favored here.

https://i.imgur.com/pzck6tS.png
https://www.bestodds.ai/odds/sport-boxing/matchups/billy-joe-saunders-vs-saul-alvarez

I'm highly doubtful about the chances of Canelo getting knocked out by BJS and yeah, Saunders will be in trouble the whole game I suppose so it's the battle of stamina and strength that would bring them to victory but only one can gain the title as a champion.

I don't want to be rude for Saunders fans but this might be his first lose if he can't beat the score card for Canelo. The only chances that I see is if Saunders could knock down Canelo that would be the score card on his side already.

How fast was that? After Canelo's fight against Yildirim, here he is scheduled immediately to face another opponent. He must not have been hurt whatsoever by that previous fight of his that he was able to arrange another fight right after. That was a smooth walk in the park for Canelo.

Now, he is about to fight another boxer with a lower caliber. Undefeated Saunders may be, but I don't think he can make it toe to toe with Canelo. He will have a hard time. Canelo might again be walking in the park in this fight.

Let's see what will be the outcome on this fight, it needs more time for Canelo to study what's his opponent's weakness. Saunders capacity is really outstanding if we would have to consider it as the best odds for this coming fight. It's so exciting fight to see and betting will be more fun when you knew the advantage of your chosen boxer.

I don't think Canelo has a hard puzzle in Saunders as an opponent. I think he can fight normally and easily defeat Saunders. There's nothing that requires changing. It is not Canelo's problem to find out how to defeat Saunders. Quite the opposite, I think it requires a good amount of strategic planning, training, improvement, adjusting, etc on the part of Saunders to even last the whole 12 rounds with Canelo. If they prefer to do away with a UD against Canelo, that's even a lot harder to figure out how.

More than likely, Canelo will end this fight as soon as possible by KO just like Yildirim. But if Saunders can last up until 12 rounds, will bet on Canelo here. But working up until 12 rounds is not easy here. Saunders really do need a strategy how to make that happen. Hopefully, it will not be a mismatch like the Yildirim fight.

That KO might not really be on Canelo's plan. It will come at the perfect time after a perfect shot. Canelo has a strong power so that KO punch might land anytime within the fight.

On the other hand, Saunders might get a tip or a lesson or two from Callum Smith and Daniel Jacobs's 12-round survival with Canelo.

Not completely ruling out an upset on this fight though.

Saunder taking it personally?


And this is his plan:


Source (https://www.boxingscene.com/saunders-beating-canelo-not-impossible-job-my-brain-win-this--155946)

Meaning he will go toe to toe against one of the most dangerous boxers in the world. No offense to him, but this is suicide, he will be open for a quick knock out from Canelo here.

^^ If there is such a blue print on how to beat Canelo, it will be Golovkin's strategy on the first fight. I'm sure majority of us saw the GGG beat Canelo. Many boxing analyst was infuriated with the judges decision there. It was very narrow and close fight, but the it was the wrong decision. In any case, GGG really fought toe to toe, never give Canelo the change to get comfortable and settle on his sweet spot.

However, can Saunders do that? does he have enough gas in his tank to fight full 12 rounds without himself getting hurt from the body shot? Does he have the chin?

Yes, Callum Smith he has the perfect plan as he has all the tools to be honest, but Canelo was too good. His jab doesn't have any effect on Canelo, he simply touch him but Canelo keeps coming forward with body shots that weakens Smith force him to just survived the fight. I think only a prime GGG can outwork Canelo and win at 160 lbs or 168 lbs.

I think to beat Canelo, you really have to beat him the fight, be the first to throw so that he will be off balance and then maybe he will be frustrated and then you counter him perfectly, just like what Triple-G did in their first meeting. But you also have the iron chin, and then the stamina. You also need to be the bigger guy so that you can push him around and put your weight on him during clinch like what Fury did against Wilder. And during the clinch, you should also throw some punches. And then you have to be very technical to let him miss.

I think you are talking about a better Canelo him, or his own version. Unfortunately, we haven't see any boxer that can do that to him. he fought taller and bigger guys already and they have no chance of beating him because he is smarter and he knows how to timing his punches to beat his opponent. As they say, it's easier said than done and until Canelo can experience the taste of defeat I will not stop backing him, of course I don't count the defeat from Mayweather as that's another type of boxer.

This is what we have been waiting for, Canelo is going for the reunification of all the tittles so he had no choice but to face the mandatory opponent he was given, it was a waste of time but at least it will serve as a warm up to the real fight, this is not going to be easy for Canelo but I see him winning this fight as long as he does not become overconfident and trains as hard as he should as I expect this fight to go all the way to the end, and with this in mind the overall physical shape of both fighters will be critical in order to decide a winner.

by the replies, we could already see Canelo is the winning bet.  there is just so much Canelo had done in the past compare to Billy Joe Saunders when we look at the names of the opponents he beaten there the famous names including Shane Moseley, Kovalev and then Miguel Cotto. although both of them started at a young age,  there is no discounting Canelo is a much stronger fighter. the fight will just taint 1 loss for Billy Joe's record.

He has fulfilled his mandatory, beat him by quitting in his stool and then said,  I didn't break a sweat, lets make it more challenging by going on the supposedly next tougher guy in the division, a champion and that is Billy Joe Saunders.

And again, on paper, the match has some hype, Saunders is the champion and supposedly has the perfect game plan to beat Canelo. But if you inspect closely, we see that this is not a big challenge . No disrespect to Saunders, but Canelo is invincible right now and the stronger one and could unify the belts at super middle weight.

There is no need for overconfident in every boxing fight because a single punch can drop Him down like a dead cow so better for Him to treat the fighter/opponent as a wild animal that in any chances can kill Him.

Canelo is one of the best for this division and i know with all His effort he can bring down BJS .

But I'll pass on this one because I am waiting for Manny Pacquiao's fight this year .

This fight is already final while the fight of Manny Pacquiao is still a rumor, we don't know yet if he can have fight this year as Crawford the one he challenge has still no answer or even the promoter has not given a statement regarding the fight.

The fight between Pacquiao and Crawford has not reached its finality yet. Like what you mentioned, there are only some speculations about the whole fight. Compared to Alvarez vs Saunders (as it also falls right exactly on my birthday), I might actually go big on this fight.

It's been a while since I last engaged into sports gambling but I feel good in this fight. The domination of Alvarez continues and I feel like he's going to be more dominant in the upcoming years and into the future.

So in that case are you ready the bet the odds of Canelo even at? ;
Probably an early round could give a better odds but until now there are only limited odds so we can't tell.

Of course Saul Alvarez is the favorite in this fight and I am sure he will beat Billy Joe Saunders. That's what the bookmakers' odds say. I'm more interested to see if Saunders can make it through all 12 rounds.

By the way, does anyone know what weight class the fight will be in yet?

A champion is still a champion, no matter if he is someone relatively less popular. From the technical point of view, surely Canelo is way better than BJ Saunders, but remember that boxing is also about weight. I think BJ Saunders is bigger and heavier than Canelo that will make a big problem for him. I think this match will be a nice slugfest. I'll go for Canelo.

This is not related to Canelo or Saunders, but will "champion be still a champion" if he was loosing the fight and won only due to disqualification (landed an illegal strike not on purpose, but while being in a "rage-mode") of his opponent?

My comment was about "power level" mate. Yes, generally top-3/5 rank are strong compared to the rest. So in the case of disqualification and stuff, as long as, the title fight is between those ranks, well.. "a champion is still a champion." Hence anyone trying to fight the champ will still respect him because his "power level" is up there. Sometimes, luck is what makes the champ stands out from the other top-3/5.

Canelo lost over Mayweather but in an interview, Mayweather admitted that Canelo can box and hard to beat. he pays respect to Canelo that they lasted 12 rounds. a champ is a champ. if they do a rematch, Mayweather might be in a dangerous position knowing he is already past prime 44 years of age.

with Saunders, he has the experience advantage due to his southpaw stance if he could establish lead foot to throw a power punch as Pacquaio would do it.

I thought it was fixed that Canelo and Pacquiao fight.

Pacquiao should fight Canelo not chasing Conor McGregor in a boxing match, that's a perfect fight for the UFC fighters.
I will guess it could be Canelo and Pacquiao in the month of May, but the rumor still a rumor unless there's no official announcement of the fight.

This big event is a big payday for them.

There's no Canelo vs Pacquiao, there's even no rumor for that. It's actually Pacquiao vs Crawford and that was not finalized yet although we have heard from Bob Arum already regarding fight. Also, no one is interested anymore on Pacquiao vs McGregor because McGregor loss on his last fight.

Nah, it won't happen, Canelo is too big for Manny, too different  weight class, one a ageing legendary boxer who's legacy is already cemented. While the other is on his prime and destroying everyone in it's path.

Pacquiao should stick to 147 lbs, Canelo to 168 lbs. Let's just enjoys Canelo ride to greatness and become a legend himself. No need to bring his name to fight Manny.

They could fight in a catch weight but it's not good IMO as for sure Canelo will have to drain himself just to fight Manny, not good for boxing and not good for Canelo's career as Manny never loss fighting a big man in his career in a catch weight fight.

Manny should focus on Crawford while Canelo please give GGG a trilogy fight.  ;D

That's a big difference in weight for sure whoever decide to fight is the one who needed to adjust, Manny can't go that heavy as surely he's going to lose his speed.

maybe if ever, Canelo can go down losing much weight if he really aiming to fight Manny, but like you, I personaly like to leave it that way.

Let them shine from what division they've belong.

Who knows about the probability for this fight to happen but since there are no news or rumors that do rises up this time then lets presume that this one hadnt really been able to push through.

Better if Canelo would just stay up on the current weight division and wont tend to chase down and reduce himself just for the sake of fighting Manny, neither of the two would really
be sacrificing something if they move neither up or down on said division but for Manny then i wont be seeing that his fight with Canelo would turn out to be good.

Canelo would stay at his current weight division, he is dominating so theirs no need to try to follow the footstep of Manny as with his size, he can't do that. Manny is already a legend, it might take centuries before someone could beat his record and the good thing is he is still fighting now and that gives us time to  enjoy seeing these fighters getting good fights.

I'm a fan of Canelo but if ever he will face Manny, I might bet against him as I like to support my country man.

Well, who knows there will be a fight between Manny and Canelo since most of their fans looking forward to these two fighters that will have a match soon.
Even me, Manny Pacquiao was a legend of the boxing industry and I will not hesitate to support him in his fight. He is a very aggressive boxing fighter among others and no doubt on it.
However, on the match of Canelo and Saunder, I am in favor of Canelo, he has a strong punch that makes Saunder in serious pain. Perhaps, the odds now are in favor of Canelo.

If they ever meet I will also support Pacquiao because he needs all the support and prayer because he is fighting a fighter who is at his prime and probably one of the big punchers and with good excellent ring generalship, I hope they will not meet for Pacquiao's sake, Pacquiao although still great and in great shape, age might creep in on him.

You could be right but at least we have something to look forward to, the mandatory fight was a waste of time, even his opponent knew he had no chance but he had to fight and earn a small fortune in the process, even if this fight results in a disappointment at least it will be one more step on the quest Canelo has of reunifying all the belts under him and that is always attractive, maybe once he does that Canelo could fight in a heavier division as he will have no opponents left to fight if he remains in the one he is currently in.

Just a quick update,


https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-alvarez-billy-joe-saunders-headed-cowboys-t-stadium-8--156252

So officially the fight will be held in AT&T Stadium in Texas, with fans allowed to watch the fight live. And I'm sure Canelo's fan are happy to hear this news.

I think Canelo can fill that up, 60,000-70,000, still part of the Mexican's Cinco-de-Mayo Celebration. And we all know that Texas is pre-dominantly Hispanics so good call for Alvarez and his team to stage the fight there.

I just check the odds though, as expected no change in the odds,

Canelo still the favourite @1.16
Saunders @4.60

We almost forgot that Canelo will be fighting in a week from now  :).

Below are some markets/options on how to bet and it seems a win by Canelo via Unanimous decision is the way for me to go.

The possibility of knocking out Saunders is very slim because the latter have good lateral movement though he will still lose this one but he will give Canelo a hard time, just my thought.

https://i.imgur.com/8CYFMuF.jpg

I was supposed to say that, good thing you bump this thread. We should discuss this since it will happen in just a week and 1 day.


If we believe that there will be KO here, I guess we should put on both fighters to win by KO.

If Canelo wins, we loss 9% of our bet, but if Saunders win by KO, that would be x44 of our bet, it's like a bull run profit. ;D

No one in the middleweight can put Canelo in the underdog position, he is the king of that division, even if he is fitted against Andrade or the Charlo brothers I will still consider Canelo as the favorite, the guy keeps getting better with every fight, his last fight against Callum Smith proves that he is the pound for pound king.

That's why this is an interesting fight to see, probably it's one of the biggest matches of Canelo this year, and winning this fight will prove more that he is really a great fighter. Canelo is still at his peak now, he is winning fights easily but what I like is to see a trilogy between GGG and him in the future.

Billy Joe Saunders is underrated, he has a perfect record with 30 wins and 14 from KO. I think this boxer is legit and he can give a tough fight on Canelo. Though Canelo beat an undefeated fighter in his previous fight, I guess this one is better than Callum Smith who only fight to survive the 12 rounds.

Saunders should fight toe to toe so we will see an entertaining fight.

his(Saunders ) record:
https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/482499

He is very underrated with this match or maybe he is considered underrated because of the past performances of Canelo throughout the years.

He is undefeated, have fast reactions and a good boxer but he must be ready in Canelo's body shots and counter punches. I'm also thinking that this might end up into a decision too. Might be a UD on Canelo for me. This might be the best fight of the year for both of them and I like how Saunders spice up the fight by trashtalking Canelo :). I'm excited for this fight. I know that Canelo is heavily favored in this fight but we've seen many upsets in the past years :D.

The most attractive odds are on Saunders's side, all win by decision and win by KO, they are profitable, and of course, the DRAW odds are also good and it's possible to happen if it's a close fight. Canelo almost unbeatable judging on his previous fights, so I can see why people are underestimating his opponent, but it's actually good as it will only make his opponent a big underdog which would result in very attractive odds in his favor.

If by chance, Saunder will win by KO, the odds is at 40.0 right now, while if he wins by decision, at 6.60 odds. Do you think some gamblers will bet on him? Canelo is clearly the favorite to win here. We don't know what kind of preparation they both have. So we are only basing from their previous fights.

Gamblers bet on anything, there are two fighters and it's impossible that we all bet on one fighter only. The odds will increase or drop, depending on how much money is coming and oddsmakers know that so the action will always be equal. Just don't worry, if you win you'll still get paid, it's just a matter of choosing the fighter that we think will win.

It's hard to bet on Saunders, Canelo is just too good in his last fight and he will be better than his last fight, Canelo just keeps getting better, his performance against Smith is just awesome and for me, Smith is a better fighter than Saunders, I'm sure Canelo will win I just want to see his improvements because he is training hard for this fight.

That's why the odds are high for Saunders because of that thing, however, hard doesn't mean impossible so there's still a chance an upset happen. you know in boxing, upset happens anytime, so it could be this fight, who knows. Remember Loma got upset? you know how good he is, but on that night, his opponent came out better than him.

The reason why the odds for Saunders winning by way of knock out is very high is that it is very unlikely to happen. It may happen as unexpected results do happen in boxing sometimes but you cannot be counting on that with your money. Even that decision win for Saunders is unlikely to happen.

But there are always people who will bet on certain fighters even if they are underdogs. It happens always. May be they are huge fans of the fighter, they are simply counting on the possibility of an upset, or they are trying to make big money by risking.

That's how bookies work, they make odds based on what people thought on a certain fight. What people think now is that Canelo would win easily, so he is now overvalued in the sportsbook, and that gives very high odds for his opponent just to attract bettors.

As for me, I think the odds are just right and I would love to play Saunders to win for higher odds, just for the sake of fun and who knows this little chance would win. However, now, in reality, I think Canelo would win, but just in case he makes mistakes, at least I'll benefit.

Upsets are still happening in any contact sports we have just seen some upsets in MMA and  Saunders have a good knock out ratio we cannot rule out any possibility of a knockout and if you are betting for Saunders to win by knock out now that's a real gamble, both fighters knows the importance of this match, they will come to prepare and give the spectators a big surprise, I love to see Canelo fight again because every fight for Canelo is a showcase of a new skill.

It's not surprising and like what the post above you was saying there are gamblers who also hope for big payout, they are willing to take the risk as we don't know what will happen on this fight, both are good and both are willing to exceed from their capabilities just to win over another.

Canelo always have it and if his opponents lowered his guard, surely this figther will attack and take you down with a KO.

if both fighters are prepared for this fight, i will bet on canelo here to win this fight. now if the odds are not attractive who will win on this fight, just bet on the winning method odds. canelo by KO is still at 1.89 or by decision at 2.24 rather than the 1.12 that you will get if you will place on canelo as the winner.
betting is a indeed a risk because we dont know how they will perform inside the ring. but that's the beauty of betting, right?

Saunders will be more motivated knowing that he is fully underestimated, the living proof is the betting odds on him, he will be getting ridiculous odds to win, it looks like an insult but if he will take it to a positive side, then he might think this as an opportunity.

Bettors backing Saunders to win will not complain here, with these great odds, they'll be able to fill their pockets if Saunders wins.
So, I believe we should also look at the possibility of Saunders winning this fight than being so hype by Canelo's previous performance that leads us to blindly betting on this fight.

I'm looking at the odds, the under 10.5 is attractive so I might go with this bet.

Maybe Saunders really trained for this fight but we all know that Canelo is in his prime right now and it's hard to see who are going to touch him at this point.

Even Canelo by KO is good @1.91 or even Canelo by decision @2.28. So better pick the best odds.

I don't think oddsmakers are making odds based on what people thought. Odds are usually created by expert analysts. Of course it is normal that the odds would match a lot of people's expectation.


There are people who bet this way. I don't do it this way unless I believe in the fighter to be capable of winning despite the odds.

Saunders has an undefeated record and his knockout ration is obviously lower than 50% so if Saunders will have a chance of winning this fight, it will turn out to be a decision.
On the other hand, I want to think that Saunders still have a chance to knockout Canelo but all throughout Canelo's boxing career he hasn't been knocked out yet or even knocked down once. He wobbled once but that is when he is still 18 years old. I'm not removing the possibility of Saunders knocking out Canelo since everything is possible in boxing but the chances of it to happen is somewhat close to zero percent (for me).

I believe though that upsets are happening especially in boxing and we've seen many of this. If this will be an upset, it will be a decision and not by a knock out. Either way, all of us are happy to see these 2 boxers fight with each other :).

I think Saunders will only be good on early rounds like what I have seen on his previous fights but its not going to work for Canelo. Anyway this is an interesting fight with these two great boxers.

Just 5 days left before this fight take place. Is the venue already been set?

I think the same, hope Saunders will survive the barrage of punches to the body that Canelo will throw as i will be betting on a Canelo win via UD. I don't think that Canelo will lose in this stage of his career, lack of quality opponents or he is just too good hehe.


The venue for this fight is AT & T Stadium in Texas. That's formerly known as the Cowboy's Stadium.

Canelo might win but if we think that Saunders will last, I guess we will still get good odds for betting on Canelo to win by decision.
The last fight of Canelo proved that if his opponent will refuse to be aggressive and will choose to survive, it could happen, so that bet has a chance here.


So crowd is already allowed here?

It's starting to look doubtful whether this fight will even happen. Saunders has been complaining about the judges and about the ring size. I think Saunders and his father are just mad that Canelo is the center of attention and are making a big deal out of small things. It would be really crazy for Saunders to follow through on his threats of pulling out of this fight.

According to Eddie Hearn, both fighters knew before hand that there will be no British and Mexican judge, so I don't know why Saunders is complaining. For me this is a sign that Saunders has been beaten psychologically even before the fight starts.

Of course Canelo is the A side in this fight, if he pulls out of this fight, it will be the end of Saunders career and expect a boxing litigation.

@Yamifoud - fans are allowed to watch the fight live as tickets are on sale, but probably in limited capacity.

https://www.stubhub.com/canelo-alvarez-arlington-tickets-5-8-2021/event/104812241/?priceWithFees=true

I read all of Saunders complain, LOL, it's too late, and I'm sure he will be fine by not attending as Canelo Alvarez Goes Solo on Media Day at AT&T Stadium (https://www.boxingscene.com/photos-canelo-alvarez-goes-solo-on-media-day-t-stadium--157409). I don't know if he is playing mind games against Canelo, but I think it won't work.

He wants attention that is why he is complaining even with just a few things like ring size, judges etc.
Canelo really is the center of attention right now and he is always the attention whenever he has a fight.

Maybe its mind games like @kemarit has said :D but with the experiences Canelo has, I don't think that it will be effective against him. We know that Saunders is kinda trolling when he is in the ring and we saw that against Lemieux. We might see this too in the 8th of May. The battle of Speed against the Power.

How can he play mind games when he is a huge underdog in this fight. I would agree with Saunders to play this kind of games if he has the talent to offset Canelo but he hasn't the had the tools.

And probably this will make Canelo more motivated and not to let the fight goes to the judges scorecard as he might go for a knock out here in the later rounds. Bitch move from Saunders and his team and it will totally back fire on them.

It's going to happen it's the end of Saunder's career in boxing if he did not show up without a valid reason, only an injury can make the fight stopped but not with ring size, it's a bad precedent and boxers can request any outrageous thing just not to make the fight push through, he will be charged with violation of the contract.

How about this? Eubank thinks that Canelo will KO Saunders huh.

Odds @1.91 Canelo via KO is pretty attractive but i think Saunders have something in mind that he demanded to have a bigger ring lol.

I think he is going to use his running shoes here to avoid on being punished by Canelo but still he will lose, so i will stick to Canelo by UD.


https://www.boxingscene.com/eubank-jr-backs-up-talk-bets-10000-on-canelo-knock-saunders-out--157415

Yeah, this is the first thing that comes into my mind, he wanted to have a bigger ring for obvious reasons, so that he can run and circle around when Canelo is about to come and get him knockout.

That's attractive odds as well, Canelo by knock out is really a good prediction in this fight. As we all know that even Canelo goes up in weight, he can still knock out guys with one punch.

Good odds and that's likely the outcome, but if the UD win has better odds, then I understand if @bisdak40 took that. Here we are again, we are all looking at Canelo's talent in boxing, and how good he is in his last fights, and that's the reason why we also did not see how attractive the value betting on his opponent, anyone taking on Saunders  with a very nice odds?

the odds for canelo by KO is still good at about 1.83 rather than placing a bet on him at 1.12 if he wins over saunders. couple of days and we will see another rumble inside the ring. this is gonna be interesting. most of boxing fans here are rooting for canelo. so hopefully, he will not fail us.

^^ Yup, and with that huge amount, it will definitely be a good risk/bet on Canelo to win by knock out. You just sit and watch the fight and hope that you can win your bet.

And Canelo has a good % of knockout if I'm not mistaken, so it is really possible.

I'm not taking on Saunders, I think Canelo's talent is just above anyone else in this division.

@1.91, that is a low risk with high reward already but also take note that Saunders has an undefeated record so knocking him down isn't an easy task. I'm thinking that this will go into a decision.

Saunders has a huge speed advantage therefore, he demanded a bigger ring so that he can hit and run as fast as he could. This might be a easy night for Canelo but I'm pretty sure that he will pull this one off. I'm very much excited to watch this fight days from now :).

But he can't run all night with a huge ring, sooner or later Canelo are going to caught up with him.

Just like in Amir Khan fight, Amir is very quick and in the early going, he score some rounds, but Canelo didn't get frustrated and continue to chase Khan around the ring until he caught him and then boom, the one single knock out punch. So this might repeat here, Saunders might be fast, but sooner or later he will get tired and Canelo will take advantage of it.

This is a great match. The two have a nice background in boxing industry. They hold several titles which make me think that the match will be worth the time to see. Both are skilled and are almost on the same level of strength. However, I think that this match will be in favor of Canelo Alvarez.

Canelo Alvarez has fought some widely-known, great boxers in the past. He has fought with Floyd Mayweather, Kovalev, Miguel Cotto, and many more. Though there are some opponents that he had a hard time fighting with, but he still managed to overcome them and win the match. Billy joe Saunders on the other hand has a good reputation as well in boxing. He fought with David Lemieux which I think highlighted and showcased his strength and ability among all of his matches. They will surely make the match intense and interesting to watch.

Thats why this is a must watch boxing event for this year.

Many of us are too confident that Canelo might win through knock out knowing his performance on his past opponents but I think its too early to say.

We cant underestimate the strength of Saunders and maybe this time he has a lot of improvement that we didnt see before.

True, this is really a good match, although Canelo is the favorite to win this, I'm sure that Saunders will have his time, maybe he can win some rounds.

Forget about the Floyd fight though, Canelo is still very young and inexperience when he fought Floyd. Kovalev and Cotto though, it was a great show for us. And I think you forget about the GGG fight, I think it shows how Canelo is, he takes GGG 0, but others have doubt though, the fight should be at least 1-1 in majority of boxing fans.

It's hard to expect that against Canelo, but let's see.
I'm excited, the fight will happen 2 days from now and it should be a great fight, better than the last fight of Canelo where he could still win.


Being young is not an excuse, once prior to Mayweather's fight, he was already undefeated, but it was too easy for Mayweather to beat him, he was outbox and got schooled, so let's just accept the fact that Mayweather is on another level.

Both are the same great boxer and Saunders is not an easy opponent but I'd placed my bet on Canelo because of his record and I'd watched most of his fights, so he must deliver the best on this fight and don't disappoint me. Can't wait to see them back on ring, and to win on my bet.  :D

They will fight on the scheduled date, you might win for betting on Canelo but you will not get good odds unless you'll bet on him to win by KO and that will be the result. I'm now looking for good odds, trying to analyze it a bit so if I win, I would be satisfied, Canelo by KO is just one but I also consider betting on the opposite side, you know the odds for the upset win is just too attractive.

Not only because odds are in favor of Canelo but also because he really is the one with weight on this match. Like this will I guess not be an important topic and I wouldn’t engage in this post if in case that Canelo isn’t there. Been supporting Canelo since the day I watched one of his highlights on youtube.

I still remember when he fought with Floyd, people are screaming he is the winner, but Floyd Mayweather was the one who has been addressed as the winner though had a good performance during that match. It’s almost the same scenario as Manny Pacquiao's fight against Floyd, it was a cooking show.

Good news for those boxing fans:


https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-saunders-official-weigh-in-open-5000-fans--157437

I'm sure this is gonna be big as Canelo has a lot of fans in Texas, which we wall know is predominantly Hispanics. I will update the thread if the video of the official weigh-in is available.

Edit: Final fight presser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUhBptAKYZ8

We will see again another great fight between these two fighters Canelo Alvarez and BJS or what we called Billy Joe Saunders. We can call these two as one of the good fighters of the century especially with Canelo whom I've watch several good fights and also BJS who has a good body built. These two fighters respect each other in which on the initial interview they admit that it will be a great and good match for their career as they feel the eager to win the belt and title.

I liked to see it as that means they are focus and well prepared for this fight. Maybe it's not the biggest fight of Canelo as in this fight, Canelo is expected to win and he is a heavy favorite, but the fact that he respected his opponent, simply means that he will not take this fight lightly.

Looking at the gambling site to place my Bet is quiet disappointing, I see not a good odds to place my bet so I decided not to gamble but i’ll watch the match because I also support Canelo on this battle, Billy Joe is still not an easy opponent yes but seeing how he works on his previous matches, I’m quiet disappointed because I know he can do better, anyway 1 more day and the fight will begin.

Here's an updated odds. https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/alvarez-canelo-saunders-billy-joe-6049c1d8fa4f26889c63a636
Canelo to win 1.13. Saunders to win 5.80 or 6.28 if you use a price boost.

The attraction if it's based on the odds is on betting Saunders to win, but look at the winner & round range, you might fight interesting odds, it's in the link.

Here are the other betting options that we are talking about:

https://i.imgur.com/G9dZ4rG.png

So it's time to look at the odds and bet on what round should Canelo or Saunders are going to win here.

Canelo by decision current sits @2.36 and knockout @1.86.

I'm haven't lock by bet yet, still trying to figure how this fight is going to happen.

^ It should be tomorrow right?
It seems like everyone here was able to see the match between Canelo and Yildirim. And we all know how good Canelo’s performance on that much. It was like a win-or-die situation for Canelo. That is why I would place my side with Canelo, basing it on how he fights, the strategy he has might outplay Saunders. It is just that, possibly Saunders would stay until the last round. They both have iron chins and I am expecting a scorecard here, I can tell.

Canelo's chin I would is better than Saunders though. But the big question is how is Saunders gonna react if Canelo's touch that chin. It might not be a one knock out punch, but for sure it will put a dent on Saunders chin and then Canelo going to the body. But there is a possibility that it can go to distance as well. So lots of factor to look here, before putting our bets.

And I'm sure if it is going to be tomorrow though, as far as my timezone goes it will be in 48 hours.

It will be 48 hours from now, we have different timezone but the hours counting is more accurate to determine the exact time and date. It's gonna be a war, hopefully, this is against an undefeated fighter, and I like an undefeated fighters getting into the ring against an icon as they usually work hard to get this big success.

Just think how the world of boxing would think if Canelo would lose, all praise will be on Saunders and he will be up for big fights after.

I'm gonna cheer for Saunders. I'm sick and tired of this red Mexican :D He has beaten all his division and should advance to next weight class long time ago (he would feel well there, as he has already KO'ed Kovalev in light heavy). It is no longer interesting to watch how he dominated middle weight, but Saunders could bring back interest to it.

The boxing industry has seen a lot of upsets in the past if ever Alvarez lose the boxing world will be in shock but they know that this is not unexpected and it happens, if Saunders beat Canelo it will be his biggest legacy he has stopped the train hype, Canelo knows what is at stake on this fight, and he knows the boxing world expect him to deliver, which he never fails to do.

Well that how could this Mexican is, he really can clean up the division and become the undisputed champion. I think he just wanted to test the LHW when he goes up and fight Kovalev and take his belt, Kovalev is already past his prime when Canelo fought him.

And maybe though his body is not accustomed to 175 lbs that's why him and his team stick to the division wherein they are comfortable and beat all the champions.

Yes, we have seen a lot of upset in the recent months but i do think that it won't happen to Canelo Alvarez as he is too good at the moment and never underestimate his opponent which is a very good trait that a boxer should have.

Betting for Saunders is so tempting with the odds now at the bookies but i will stick to my instinct that this will still be a Canelo show via unanimous decision.

https://i.imgur.com/JVVfRz7.jpg

Wow, good luck on your bet man, you have already lock and loaded it. That's decent odds, last time it was a UD win by Canelo, so he is not really a big KO artist and there's a good chance that he will just box his opponent here and win an easy UD.

Good call mate, as I have said previously, this is a good odds to bet, probably have or even one stake, it will give you a good returns.

And I agree that Alvarez has matured enough not to really go for the knockout, it will come but don't force it attitude. That's why the Kovalev knock out was truly amazing because we didn't think that he can knock out a big and legit Light Heavyweight opponent. So good luck.

I believe too that Canelo has faced many good boxers already and he has faced some of the best boxers too (Kovalev, GGG, Kirkland and more).
We also saw some of the upsets in the history of boxing but I don't think that this will be one of the greatest upsets that will ever happen.

Canelo by decision is a low risk high reward for me just by seeing the odds of it. I also believe that this fight will end up in a decision. If Saunders will just run and run from start to end, this will end up into a decision. I like the attitude of Canelo though that he isn't doing some trashtalking to his opponents. He lets his fists do the speaking instead of his mouth doing it. Very excited to see this fight :)

And with that boosted odd, it's really tempting not to bet on Canelo by decision here.

Yes, Alvarez really learn a lot from fighting no name opponents and high caliber fighters, you don't underestimate them because with just punch the game will change.

I haven't put any bet yet because I'm leaning that Canelo might win by KO here, just a question of which round. In any case this will be very exciting, two very high caliber boxer.

Here's the official weigh-in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdvA5obGF9o

Saunders doing some trash talk or just feeling confident. Less than 48 hours from now, we will see if Canelo can continue his streak and clean up the division or will Saunders be the man to defeat him. 70,000 are expected to watch the fight live tomorrow so get your bet and lock in.  :)

With what Canelo achieved I don't think anything can intimidate him, Saunders can do and talk anything outside of the ring but inside the ring, I don't think Canelo will give him a chance to be confident, Canelo is so good at taking away confidence of his opponent on the first minutes of the fight, Tyson is so right when he says Saunders will realize this.

The time has come, it's fight day, good luck to everyone who whoever fighter you are rooting.

I'm sure most of us here are rooting for Canelo Alvarez to win, but I'm hoping for a good fight here, I want to see a split decision if possible, or  KO.
Info on how to watch the fight ;

https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/canelo-alvarez-vs-billy-joe-saunders-fight-start-time-live-stream-ppv-price-how-to-watch-tv-channel/

This is a fight that I want to watch I hope we have a member here who can give us the link to the fight, there are Facebook live from members but they are easily takedown by Facebook and some of them are links directed for an upgrade before you can watch a fight, I hate people doing analysis on Youtube, they don't really give the real picture with their commentary.

Seems i'm the only one thinking that Saunders can survive and go to the distance with Canelo lol.

Boxing analyst Dan Rafael and Amir Khan both predicted Canelo to knockout Saunders.

I have a gut feeling that Saunders will be in survival mode and would not engage Canelo early and save his energy running until the championship rounds hehe. Good luck to us.

Waiting for this match also as I have place a small bet.
These 2 boxers are really good ones so I believe we will see a very good toe-to-toe fight.
Canelo is the favorite here but it will not be an easy fight for him.
But their tickets is not yet sold out - https://twitter.com/EddieHearn/status/1391141834135584769 ?
People don't want to go out??

Obviously,  Canelo is the favourite here but I do agree that it won't be an easy fight, Saunders is also that good that it can give Canelo problems early. So it's a matter of who adjusted in this fight and take advantage of someone's mistake.

I haven't place a bet here to be honest, but I think Canelo got this by KO or by decision. The KO though is more attractive against the decision odds, but the latter is safer to bet.

Damn on you Saunders, why quit when the fight is close and you still could won it damn.

You only have the mouth and not the heart of the champion that most of the fighters have, better retire.

Canelo won via TKO....

That was a really disappointing ending. Billy Joe was more competitive than many expected and then he abruptly quit. Apparently he suffered an eye injury and that was the reason for the stoppage.

The next opponent for Canelo should be Caleb Plant to crown an undisputed champion. Plant doesn't have a great resume so I'm not expecting very much from him but he does move around a lot and could find a way to win some rounds.

Very disappointing indeed as i lost my bet lol, could have won if Saunders didn't quit on his stoll.

With due respect to Caleb Plant, i don't think he has the tools to beat Canelo and their fight is just a formality for Canelo on taking his IBF belt. Saunders is the fighter who have the best chance to beat Canelo and it's evident on this one and i don't think there will be a rematch here.

Maybe if he didn't have eye injury, he would have continued the fight. But it says that his right eye is swelling badly so his camp decided not to continue. A rematch may likely happen. Let us see if Saunders' camp will ask for another match...

Saunders is doing great in the early rounds his showboating is doing great until Canelo's keeps coming in and made damage to his body and face, there's really a big difference between a guy who can duck punches and a guy who can hit hard, those hard punches are making a toil to Saunders body and face, he has no choice, his eyes are busted and he is not winning rounds anymore, there are no plans anymore it will go to trash when you got those hard punches.

Yeah, a bit disappointment to see Saunders quitting on his stool. It was really a close fight in my book. I've notice that Alvarez loves to throw that upper cut when Saunders was ducking down and it really do the damage from round 6 onwards. Canelo is just heating up, I'm expecting the fight to last to the championship round at least. I'm not really sure if a rematch should be made though. Canelo is now the undisputed champion, Caleb Plant is next to really clean up the weight class.

Sooner or later he will be knock out by Alvarez. He seems to be playing around and putting his hands down, but it doesn't score points. Alvarez is going strong as the round progresses, and I think it's the right call for Saunders and his team.

That eyes is closing and another hit could really damage it. No need to go to another round, it's the right decision. It will be the same for Caleb Plant, will show good early until he got hit by those brick hands by Alvarez.

I have Canelo winning by 2 points in my unofficial scorecard. I agree that he had his moments and winning rounds, Saunders proved to be tricky for Canelo in the beginning. But once he adjusted, he started to hit good jabs too. In the beginning it was Saunders who are clipping Canelo with jabs, but once he got his rhythm, body attacks and then the upper cut, it was imminent that Canelo will win here.

Saunders is really very good in the early rounds, he is employing the same tactics Mayweather used when he beat Canelo, but unfortunately, it will not work anymore, he is facing a very mature Canelo, who knows what to do in the ring against any opponents I don't think any boxer in the middleweight can beat him he is the undisputed middleweight world champion.

I put my bet in the last minute mate, and after I put in, the market closes so I was just lucky to get my bet inside:

https://i.imgur.com/cta0IUA.png

But just like the rest of you guys, I was still looking for more action, Saunder was jabbing his way and then going inside and hitting Canelo with his left. Unfortunately, he has made one mistake, that is ducking around to avoid Canelo's straight but Canelo is wise to always pull that uppercut and hit Saunder multiple time to close that eye.

Nice win for the KO bet, I thought it was a close fight but Saunders got careless and tired in the early rounds. I hope he is okay, it looks like his eye was seriously injured that he cannot continue the fight. congrats to the winners, especially those who made the right prediction.

There was a time where Saunders is leading in terms of points.
There was a time where Saunders can fight toe to toe against him and he is landing some solid punches.
There was a time where Saunders is mocking him and showed his tongue to him.
All of that was vanished just because of that one punch in Round 8.

All of the trashtalks of Saunders, all of the mocking that he done, he even suggested for a bigger ring to run for and yet he can't beat and now suffered his first loss in a disappointing way. I didn't thought that it will end like this because there is a time that Saunders is leading in commentators score cards and he can go toe to toe against him and he landed some solid punches too. Saunders suffered an fractured orbital bone as reported and I just hope that he will be ok.

Now that Canelo has 3 of the 4 titles, he will try to get the last one against Plant so we might see him and Canelo fight possible in September.

It was really serious because he was taken to the hospital, that's how strong Canelo's punches are.

here's the news about that, but we will definitely see more update about his injury.

https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/12301283/billy-joe-saunders-suffered-broken-eye-socket-during-world-title-defeat-by-saul-canelo-alvarez-says-promoter-eddie-hearn

This is a physical sport, the injury could happen but we don't want to see injuries like this.

I don't how severe it is, but the way it looks, it doesn't look good to me.

The injury of Antonio Margarito suffered against Pacman is also serious, but that was due to series of punches and he never gave up.
This fight, we've seen the camp of Saunders gave up, so they surely want to protect their boxer's future.

It seems like Canelo really prepared for this match. It was a tough fight yet lots of people have already expected that Canelo would win this fight. His punches are too strong that it caused Saunders serious injury. I guess he already knows how to counter Saunder's movements. Saunders still needs lots of physical and strategic training.

Of course, he will not be top p4p if he is lazy and not training to the fullest specially in big fights like this. It really took a toll on Saunders because Canelo is really a heavy hitting. I don't know if you notice his body shot too, perfect throw. Saunders will really doing good but not enough damage to Canelo, but scoring in judges score card.

It's a dangerous injury, Canelo broke his orbital bone, if he continues to fight he might have suffered a permanent damage, the same thing with Margarito when he fought Pacquiao.

The fight was concluded when the more experience Alvarez does his thing in the late rounds and finally knocks out his opponent. That was a good fight earlier though most of the spectators know the result of the fight, no one knows that Saunders will give his best in the early rounds of the fight. But that's just the way it is, those who have more talents are always find their way to win the fight in an unquestionable way. I'm looking forward to his next fight hope that he will entertain us again as he did earlier.

There's no rematch for this fight I guess, Saunders will require more time to recover from the injury. Looking forward to a big fight on Canelo this year, he is getting more exciting to watch as he always finds a way to defeat his opponent, whether by KO or by decision, no doubt he is still at his peak.

By the way, as to the latest news, Saunders will undergo surgery.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/boxing/57049745

It's not attractive anymore, Saunders did not live up to expectation the only rematch worth watching is with Golovkin, Canelo has two options now, go on and fight Caleb which is a good option or do a third match with Golovkin which is good for the boxing world, Golovkin is the only fighter who can engage and match Canelo's aggressiveness, I like the latter than the former.

No question about that, it's indeed a big fight but that fight deserves a wider audience which I think is not possible during the pandemic. Canelo is hot right now, so I believe he will be the favorite to win if they will have a trilogy against triple G. For me, I'm willing to spend money just to see a third fight as that fight we don't know who will win and we can expect a real close fight.

so it was the right decision for him to quit as he may have had suffered more if he did continue. Saunders' injury is not a small one. hope he can recover good from this surgery. now, we are looking forward who's gonna be next for Canelo. he will be a bankable boxer for a time now.
will Caleb give him the fight that he wants next?

Canelo ended it with one punch in round 7 the punch that broke Saunders landed perfectly on a counter and based on his interview he knows that he hurt Saunders badly, that's all Canelo can give us he just needs one big punch and he can end everything, but Saunders put up a big resistance, but he just can't go on like this the whole fight, Canelo will soon catch him.

The thing is, before the fight, he started to trash talk and attack Canelo's previous opponents and tells that they all quit, now it comes back to haunt him. Yes, that one punch really did the damage and Canelo just continue to target that causing the eye to really swell and then later we found out the extend of the damage. I lost my bet here because I put Canelo by decision, but I'm good it's part of the game.

It may haunt Saunders, but his health is the priority here. Another two rounds and he will be permanently blind for the rest of his life. So the team did the right choice and may have said Saunders here. It's just trash talking, sooner or later after the fight, they will forget what Billy Joe said hyping this fight. And we will only remember how great Canelo is that night and taking Saunders WBO belt.

I'm one of the many people that were disappointed of Saunder's quitting but after some time i have realized that the Team have made the right decision. Maybe tough as due to time constraint but that decision have saved the health of their fighter as that is not his last fight.

That scenario was the same with the Pacquiao vs Margarito fight which was held on the same venue, Cowboy Stadium. Team Margarito and the referee which was Lawrence Cole did not stopped the fight even though Margarito's eye was badly swollen and now it had a permanent effect on his vision, could have avoided if they stop the fight early.

^^ Yes, that damage could be permanent, if Mark Tibbs didn't stop the fight. And at the aftermath, it was reported that Saunders has multiple fractures to his orbital, very dangerous area to get injured in a boxing fight as it has a fatal effect in boxers.

Robert Garcia and Margarito was the best example. Being Mexican and proud and don't want to quit in their stool, and the effect? Margarito retired soon, as he cannot box anymore, and he was never the same anymore, can't get a license to fight in the US even if he wanted too because he will failed the medical test.

There are a lot of criticism for Saunders for quitting on his stool, but we cannot blame his team and the doctor, if he continues it could be the end of his career, I remember the great Sugar Ray Leonard had detached his retina on one of his fights but a successful surgery restore that, the two you mentioned are also good example, I hope Saunders is still ok he still has a lot of good fights left for him..

Right now Andrade is taunting Saunders to fight him, but we'll see if Canelo will pick him or he will instead fight Plant who is more deserving.

Nah, Andrade will be blasted by Canelo, and as per Canelo, Andrade is no one, haven't face any quality opponents. Andrade just wanted to join the Canelo sweepstakes right now.

Most likely Caleb Plant will be the next fight that Canelo is looking at this division and then probably fight GGG for the biggest pay check. There are champions in LHW, but they are European so Canelo might skip that for a more lucrative fight with Plant and then GGG.

I guess he will, everybody wants to be part of Canelo to the extend that Andrade openly confronts Saunders and wants to have a piece of Canelo, but everybody knows Andrade do not have the resume or qualification to fight Canelo, he will have to line up and be the on the last line because he lacks the qualification, this is Canelo's era and I don't see it ending soon.

CANELO ERUPTS "GET THE F**K OUT OF HERE"; HEATED ALTERCATION WITH ANDRADE AFTER STOPPING SAUNDERS (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4OJnyBcFO8&t)

Not familiar with him but you are talking about this boxer https://boxrec.com/en/proboxer/468433?

I guess he has a nice record, he is undefeated with 30 wins and 18 wins from KO. If the promoter find it interesting, then give this fight to Canelo and let's see how Canelo will punish another undefeated guy.

I'm locking this thread guys, thanks to those who have commented again and congrats to those who have won their bet on this fight.

Let's see who Canelo's next target, maybe we can see him fight this year again.